56: Dating, Gender, & Birds with E.R. Fightmaster | Happy Wife Happy Life

Summary

Happy Wife Happy Life - Episode 56: Dating, Gender, & Birds with E.R. Fightmaster

Release Date: March 17, 2025

Hosts Kendall Landreth and Jordan Myrick welcome guest E.R. Fightmaster in this engaging episode that delves into the intricacies of dating, gender identity, and the serenity of birding. Through a blend of humor and heartfelt conversation, the trio navigates personal anecdotes, societal observations, and insightful discussions aimed at helping listeners better understand relationships and self-identity.

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1. Introduction to the Episode and Guest

The episode kicks off with Kendall and Jordan introducing E.R. Fightmaster, setting the stage for a deep dive into the subjects of dating and gender.

• Jordan Myrick [01:03]: "And on today's episode, we are talking about dating and gender with E.R. Fightmaster."

2. Technology Frustrations and Consumer Product Quality

The conversation begins with frustrations regarding technological products, specifically focusing on Apple computers and Dyson vacuums.

• Kendall Landreth [02:45]: "I have an Apple computer and a Mac, if you will. And this thing has recently started deleting files from my computer."

• Fightmaster [04:01]: "I spent a mortgage on a Dyson vacuum."

The hosts lament the decline in product quality, highlighting how companies like Apple have shifted post Steve Jobs era, leading to decreased customer satisfaction and increased product failures.

• Fightmaster [05:35]: "Because he had fucking pride in the product."

3. Nostalgia and Changes in Apple's Product Quality

The hosts reflect nostalgically on the past quality of Apple products, attributing the decline to changes after Steve Jobs' passing.

• Jordan Myrick [05:21]: "Things used to be different before Steve Jobs died, when he touched every computer before it left the warehouse."

4. Importance of Birding and Nature

Shifting gears, Kendall shares her passion for birding, emphasizing the role of technology in enhancing her connection with nature.

• Kendall Landreth [17:12]: "I recently got into birding, and the Cornell app, the Merlin app, made me really psychotically obsessed about it."

The discussion highlights the balance between using technology as a tool to facilitate nature experiences without letting it replace the genuine connection with the outdoors.

• Kendall Landreth [17:50]: "It's a conduit to your first experience, not your last."

5. Experiences with Grey's Anatomy and Representation of Queer Characters

Kendall discusses her experience acting on "Grey's Anatomy," focusing on the significance of queerness representation on mainstream television.

• Kendall Landreth [25:38]: "I got to represent, you know, queer, non-binary people in a way that had not yet been done on that show."

She expresses gratitude for being part of a show that empowers minorities by allowing them to see themselves reflected positively on screen.

6. The Impact of Social Media on Self-Image

The hosts delve into how social media and instant photography affect self-perception and self-esteem.

• Jordan Myrick [15:20]: "The instant gratification of the photo... adds this weird layer of you perceiving yourself that normally doesn't happen in the moment."

Kendall contrasts film photography's nostalgic value with the often harsh self-scrutiny prompted by smartphone images.

• Kendall Landreth [13:07]: "When I take a photo that is bad... I just really actually don't take photos on my iPhone anymore."

7. Red Flags in Relationships

Introducing a segment on relationship dynamics, Jordan, Kendall, and Fightmaster identify behaviors that signal potential issues in romantic partnerships.

• Jordan Myrick [33:26]: "My red flag is marathon running. I think it's wrong. I think it's evil."

The trio humorously critiques various "red flags," blending personal anecdotes with broader relationship advice.

• Kendall Landreth [42:39]: "I fucking hate overhead lighting. I will. Straight."

8. Dating Gender Non-Conforming Individuals

The discussion turns to dating partners who are gender non-conforming, exploring the importance of communication and mutual respect.

• Kendall Landreth [49:34]: "Communicating all the time... helps me feel realized by my partner."

Jordan adds that openness to change and respecting each individual's understanding of their own gender identity are crucial.

• Jordan Myrick [50:44]: "Being open to change... helps ensure that both partners feel comfortable and respected."

9. Gender Identity and Societal Structures

Kendall and Jordan explore how gender identity intersects with societal expectations and capitalist frameworks, arguing for a more human-centric view over traditional gender roles.

• Kendall Landreth [54:00]: "Everything is harder to justify in a capitalist society if we're all human beings 100%."

They discuss the challenges of maintaining personal identity within systems that thrive on gendered labor and roles.

• Jordan Myrick [58:27]: "I identify as gender non-conforming, but would in a perfect world identify as gender irrelevant."

10. Conclusion and Final Thoughts

Wrapping up the episode, the hosts reflect on their personal relationships and the lessons learned from their discussions. They emphasize the importance of treating partners with respect and maintaining individuality within relationships.

• Kendall Landreth [63:43]: "When you go on Hinge... I don't think you're gonna have good friendships... or relationships."

The episode concludes with light-hearted banter, advertisements, and announcements about upcoming tours and projects.

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Notable Quotes

• Kendall Landreth [05:35]: "Because he had fucking pride in the product."

• Jordan Myrick [15:20]: "The instant gratification of the photo... adds this weird layer of you perceiving yourself that normally doesn't happen in the moment."

• Jordan Myrick [33:26]: "My red flag is marathon running. I think it's wrong. I think it's evil."

• Kendall Landreth [54:00]: "Everything is harder to justify in a capitalist society if we're all human beings 100%."

• Jordan Myrick [58:27]: "I identify as gender non-conforming, but would in a perfect world identify as gender irrelevant."

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Key Takeaways

• Quality Over Quantity in Consumer Products: The hosts express disappointment over declining product quality from major brands, attributing it to corporate changes and reduced emphasis on customer satisfaction.

• Balancing Technology and Nature: Kendall illustrates how technology can enhance hobbies like birding without overshadowing the authentic experience of being in nature.

• Representation Matters: Kendall’s role in "Grey's Anatomy" underscores the importance of diverse representation in media, particularly for queer and non-binary individuals.

• Social Media's Dual Impact: While social media can foster connections, it also imposes unrealistic standards on self-image, leading to increased self-criticism.

• Identifying Red Flags: Recognizing and addressing red flags in relationships is vital for maintaining healthy partnerships.

• Navigating Gender Identity in Dating: Effective communication and respect are essential when dating gender non-conforming individuals, allowing for mutual understanding and support.

• Challenging Societal Norms: The discussion encourages listeners to rethink traditional gender roles and advocate for a more inclusive and human-centric societal structure.

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This episode of "Happy Wife Happy Life" masterfully weaves humor with meaningful dialogue, offering listeners both entertainment and valuable insights into the ever-evolving landscape of relationships and identity.

Transcript

[Kendall Landreth]

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[Jordan Myrick]

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[Fightmaster]

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[Jordan Myrick]

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[Fightmaster]

We're your hosts. I'm Kendall Landreth.

[Jordan Myrick]

And I'm Jordan Myrick.

[Fightmaster]

And we are two incredibly unqualified but.

[Jordan Myrick]

Deeply in love comedians who are here to help you with all things relationships. And on today's episode, we are talking about dating and gender with er, Fightmaster.

[Kendall Landreth]

Hello.

[Fightmaster]

Nailed it.

[Jordan Myrick]

Yeah.

[Kendall Landreth]

Thank you.

[Jordan Myrick]

Thanks for being here.

[Kendall Landreth]

That was so fun. Professional.

[Jordan Myrick]

Thank you very much. My dad hates it.

[Kendall Landreth]

Oh, okay, cool.

[Jordan Myrick]

He thinks it's too annoying and loud.

[Kendall Landreth]

Oh, interesting. He's listening to podcasts.

[Jordan Myrick]

My dad is a big fan of Kendall's.

[Kendall Landreth]

Oh, that's okay. I like that.

[Jordan Myrick]

That's a big fan of Kendall's.

[Kendall Landreth]

We, you know, on the sports podcast that I host, we have. We have one thing that we say every time, and it's like, hey, welcome, jocular fans. Like, it's the three things in. And as you can see right now, a year of recording feels like you.

[Jordan Myrick]

Don'T really know it.

[Kendall Landreth]

I can't. I could not. I could not write it down.

[Jordan Myrick]

I could not pick out a singular word of what you said just now.

[Kendall Landreth]

Sports and Daenery.

[Jordan Myrick]

I love that. Okay, wait. Plug your podcast right up at the top.

[Kendall Landreth]

Jocular pod. If you like women and queer people and sports, you're gonna like the jocular podcast. Yeah, Yeah. I co host it with my friends Tien Tran and Katie Kershaw. And it's really just an excuse for us to talk about hot queer people. But through the guise of activism and activity that is amazing.

[Jordan Myrick]

I love that.

[Fightmaster]

That's incredible. Well, welcome to our show. We're so happy to have you here. How was your morning?

[Kendall Landreth]

It was absolutely fine.

[Fightmaster]

Good.

[Jordan Myrick]

Yeah.

[Kendall Landreth]

I have an Apple computer and a Mac, if you will. And this thing has recently started deleting files from my computer. And I feel like one of those college students that's lying when they say that. And the girl's not charging and she's not doing her job and she say she's 2 years old.

[Fightmaster]

But this is what I'll tell you. Quality control. It is just completely gone. We're for everything. Every restaurant I used to go to that I loved, now it's just a little worse. Every snack I used to like. I love sweet chart ropes. Now you get them. They're flat.

[Kendall Landreth]

No.

[Fightmaster]

Any cream inside?

[Jordan Myrick]

They used to be round.

[Fightmaster]

It's.

[Jordan Myrick]

They used to be round.

[Fightmaster]

Now they're flattened and they're softened.

[Kendall Landreth]

They're so funny. They call it cream.

[Fightmaster]

Tear them apart. Cream.

[Jordan Myrick]

What would you call it?

[Kendall Landreth]

I've never really put it into words, but you're totally right. It's a cream filled rope, which you shouldn't be allowed to say on air.

[Jordan Myrick]

Yeah, they're twink. Like.

[Fightmaster]

It's a cream filled plastic rope that I gnaw on at the movies and now it's flat and I have to rip it apart and it's terrible. We were ranting the other day. I mean, the biggest drama in our house is that we never have a vacuum cleaner that works. I buy eight vacuums a year. None of them, they all break. Is it user error? I don't know. I don't care.

[Kendall Landreth]

You tell me the brand.

[Fightmaster]

Every brand. I've tried it. Dyson's not good, I'll tell you that.

[Jordan Myrick]

It's 100% user.

[Fightmaster]

I spent. I spent a mortgage on a Dyson vacuum.

[Kendall Landreth]

And I know anymore, I'm. I'm a Dyson slut. Because I think that they're better looking, but I'm not. But I've never had a vacuum that worked. I buy them. I'm buying them like I'm buying like a sports car without an engine in it. I'm like, yeah, I'm gonna go ahead and drop 10 grand on this handheld Dyson. But there's one rule. It can't pick up any dirt.

[Fightmaster]

Yeah. Yep. No, 100% doesn't. And the thing in the middle doesn't spin. But that is what it is, because you do it. You don't buy a vacuum so that you can clean your house. You buy A vacuum that when someone spills something at your house, you pull out a Dyson and they go, oh good, she's rich. Got it.

[Jordan Myrick]

I'm the opposite of Kendall in this way. I want everything to be ugly and extremely useful and Kendall wants everything to be beautiful and non functioning.

[Kendall Landreth]

Those are the two genders, truly.

[Fightmaster]

Which is which?

[Kendall Landreth]

Wow.

[Jordan Myrick]

I won't say they're two. They're two of their new own genders.

[Fightmaster]

But I'm sorry about your Apple, because it really has. The quality control has gone out of control. And they used to, I mean, Apple's, with Apple computers would last eight, ten years. And then, I'm serious, I had a desktop, my sister had a desktop desktop. When we were younger and it was like six years old, we went in. This was pre Steve's job, Steve Jobs dying. Something changed during that after that.

[Jordan Myrick]

You're giving real kind of boomer energy right now.

[Kendall Landreth]

But I'm into it.

[Jordan Myrick]

Like things used to be different before Steve Jobs died, when he touched every computer before it left the warehouse, turned to gold.

[Fightmaster]

That's all I'll tell you if Steve Jobs turned to gold. No, I mean, I don't know what happened.

[Kendall Landreth]

Because he had pride.

[Fightmaster]

Exactly.

[Kendall Landreth]

Because he had fucking pride in the product.

[Fightmaster]

And he understood. So my sister goes in, she says, my computer's broken. They gave her a new computer for free because they said, you're a loyal customer. They don't care about that anymore. No, because I called Dyson on the phone. I said, my, my Dyson, I'm supposed to have a warranty, which this is on me. I've never kept a receipt in my life. But they said, well, where did you buy this, Dyson? I said, I don't know when, where, what year. I bought this Dyson, but I have.

[Kendall Landreth]

It with the receipt.

[Fightmaster]

Give me a free machine.

[Kendall Landreth]

Why would I keep a receipt? What the hell kind of space in my home do you think I have for receipts?

[Jordan Myrick]

Yeah, I do. I don't want to sound like a company man, but I do have to say I think that the reason, though, why some of the customer care has gone away is obviously greed. But also, like, people are bad, manipulative liars. And I can't tell you how many times I've like watched someone fully lie to a sales associate.

[Kendall Landreth]

Well, you were talking about the customers being liars. I was like, what part of you think this makes you sound like a company man?

[Jordan Myrick]

Customers being liars even just like, I don't care.

[Kendall Landreth]

It does.

[Jordan Myrick]

I'm sorry, they don't have it's you.

[Kendall Landreth]

You have to think about net positive, net evil.

[Jordan Myrick]

Okay? We're talking business. This is a business.

[Kendall Landreth]

These people that are coming in there to like get their free laptop even though they have another one at home, they're what, robbing the company of like twelve hundred dollars, probably twenty five hundred thirty, five hundred dollars. Now those, those motherfuckers have kids mining.

[Jordan Myrick]

An act for this. Okay, listen, the way you're saying that is 100% correct. And that's not arguing. But what I am arguing is we can't just keep letting people in everyday society be bad people consistently. Obviously that starts from the top down.

[Kendall Landreth]

It's too late.

[Jordan Myrick]

No, I can't take it because we.

[Fightmaster]

Have to just take what we can.

[Jordan Myrick]

No, we can't because I'm not going.

[Fightmaster]

Into a local taqueria and being like, my taco is broken.

[Jordan Myrick]

But yeah, but people are, that's my thing. People are. Because people see that it works in little ways. Like used to, you know, I don't know. Used to when you would fly if it was your. What? What? No. What? I didn't even start my sentence. What kind of stock would you have on it?

[Fightmaster]

I agree with you. I agree, I agree.

[Jordan Myrick]

It's like people used to when you were, you got engaged or it was your honeymoon or whatever and you were flying, they would give you a bottle of champagne on the plane, they would upgrade you for free, whatever. And then people started going online and on TV and stuff and being like, hey, when you get to the airport, lie, say that you're engaged, whatever. Now it's like nobody can have a nice special thing because everyone was so greedy. And then I think they take that. Once again, I don't care about a huge company. Like I don't care what you do to like United Airlines, like whatever, steal a whole airplane, it does not matter to me. But those people acting like that. Yeah, and once again, not hardcore criminals. I think hardcore criminals are, they're smart, they're doing a good job. I think these normal, petty everyday people that are selfish are ruining things for the rest of us. But then they do take that energy because they've gotten away with it. And then they go to a local taqueria and they say, oh, you didn't actually give me half my food. So then they get like, it's, they just.

[Kendall Landreth]

You're saying it says trickle down effect.

[Jordan Myrick]

It's trickled on economics of low level ethics and evil amongst citizens.

[Fightmaster]

Well, because I will tell you, my dad growing up, he was paralyzed. We were treated like Kings. We went anywhere because he was in a wheelchair. We would go. We went to. Well, I don't want to say. We went to a comedian who. I was 7. I wasn't in charge of what comedian we saw.

[Jordan Myrick]

Say it. Tell everyone who you saw.

[Fightmaster]

We saw Bill Cosby.

[Kendall Landreth]

I knew.

[Jordan Myrick]

I knew it was gonna be Bill Cosby.

[Kendall Landreth]

I. I felt it in my bones.

[Jordan Myrick]

We all knew. It was.

[Fightmaster]

It was pre, obviously. Everything.

[Jordan Myrick]

Uh, so not pre everything, but.

[Kendall Landreth]

Okay. Podcast is canceled.

[Jordan Myrick]

Pre. Pre. The. Pre. The.

[Fightmaster]

Pre.

[Jordan Myrick]

You knowing about it. Pre. The announcement.

[Fightmaster]

And this was before Steve Jobs died, so this is kind of the heyday.

[Kendall Landreth]

Okay.

[Fightmaster]

And we go to see Bill Cosby live. He came to our small town, which felt kind of crazy. Maybe he knew what was on the.

[Kendall Landreth]

Horizon or a woman there.

[Fightmaster]

Yeah. So we go. We had terrible seats. First of all, this was at a fairgrounds. This is like. We're in the very back row.

[Jordan Myrick]

Kendall's whole town is essentially just a fairground. So keep that in mind.

[Fightmaster]

Yeah, it kind of was. So we. He. He comes in, they said, oh, my God, sir, you're in a wheelchair. Please come with us. We are put front row to see Bill Cosby. And it was like that, too. When we go to Disneyland, I was getting a VIP tour of everything. Now, that. That doesn't happen because, well, my dad's dead, so I don't get that treatment anyway. Okay, but also, the people are faking being in wheelchairs at Disneyland.

[Jordan Myrick]

Yeah, but. And I will say, also, you are extremely spoiled.

[Fightmaster]

What does that mean? What does that have to do with that?

[Jordan Myrick]

You got all this good treatment through your dad, but nothing was wrong with you. I think they should have let him alone, sit front row at Bill Cosby. You just sat in the back by yourself.

[Fightmaster]

I'd hear him complain all the time. That was.

[Jordan Myrick]

That's true.

[Kendall Landreth]

Yeah, that's true. You're. You're living through the complaint. This is. I. I want you to know that an argument in your favor here is what happened with L.L. bean. I think it was L.L. bean that had the policy that if you. They were like, our stuff should last you for a lifetime. And so if something's wrong with it, come back, we'll fix it. We're gonna give it back to you, or you can return it. You've got basic. Even got a lifetime guarantee on clothes. And enough people would. Did start coming back that there was nothing wrong with it, and they were just returning it at the end of a lifetime of wear without a receipt, without whatever, and then trading it in and Albin was like, we can't keep working at a loss. And so that's the one corporation where I'm like, I think you have a point here. And I also think that people are, you have to live with yourselves. So all of those little lies that we do, like telling the people at the small taqueria that one of our tacos was missing or there was a hair in our salsa, and so we get that thing for free. You degrade your soul in front of God. I literally believe that I can get on both. And if you think that anybody's going to take a photo of me with an iPhone anymore, I, I, I do fan conventions for Grey's Anatomy, and my least favorite part of the fan convention is the selfies. And it's not because I don't. I like, like the part where you get to be with the fans and you're like, next to them and you guys have an arm around each other. You have this moment of intimacy. It's because the photos that you take on an iPhone, I am out here looking like Shrek on that camera. Yeah. I'm like, y'all don't want that photo. We look like Shrek and Fiona right now.

[Jordan Myrick]

Yes. I have the same thing with Kendall and I will have a show. We had one last night. We were at Dynasty Typewriter. We come out after. I'm the hottest I've ever been. We had a 90 minute show. Improv. The whole time I'm dripping sweat, my lips look like they're bleeding off my face. And people are like, let's take a photo. I'm like, photoshop yourself into a picture of me that's already online. That will be so much more. Send it to me. I'll sign it, I'll mail it back to you for free. Like, whatever. That will be so much better for you than what you're about to get right now.

[Kendall Landreth]

I completely, completely agree. I look like the fucking Grim Reaper. Like, I don't know what they're putting in those cameras, but I am convinced that they're doing it to once again degrade our sense of self. Yeah.

[Jordan Myrick]

Wow.

[Kendall Landreth]

I agree.

[Jordan Myrick]

I could.

[Kendall Landreth]

Because I do not be looking like that.

[Jordan Myrick]

No.

[Kendall Landreth]

On a 23 millimeter.

[Jordan Myrick]

No, no.

[Kendall Landreth]

You know what I'm saying? I'm not picking. I could be wiping my ass and you take a film photo of me and I'm going to look like Giselle.

[Jordan Myrick]

Yeah.

[Kendall Landreth]

You take a photo of me in makeup on an iPhone and I look like Slenderman.

[Jordan Myrick]

Yeah.

[Fightmaster]

Yeah. I mean, we don't agree but sorry, to be clear, we're like, yeah, we've seen the really upsetting.

[Jordan Myrick]

True of everyone. It's like, why I think that is one of the most haunting things about this industry is how often you have to look at yourself. And then on top of that, how often you have to look at yourself in a way where you fully do not feel like you look like the way that you feel like you look.

[Kendall Landreth]

No, I completely agree. That is, like, one of the reasons I started taking photos is because I was just, like. I started taking film photos in, like, 2020, and I was just obsessed with the idea of, like, going over to, like, the friend's house when you were having those, like, outdoor things with, like, the four people that you saw for that whole year.

[Fightmaster]

Yeah.

[Kendall Landreth]

And it's like, everyone is feeling this existential thing of we're disappearing into the ether. So I want to start getting photos of people so that they, like, feel like someone's witnessing their existence. And so the whole. The kink of getting, like, a really good photo of someone is capturing this moment in time where they are uniquely themselves and they look as beautiful as possible because they're feeling so integrated with themselves. And so when I take a photo that is bad, if I take a photo that is bad, like, I. I just really actually don't take photos on my iPhone anymore because I'm never. I never turn it around and show the person and see the same, like, happy reaction as I do when I show them. Like, the film got developed. Here's you. Everyone is always like. Like, it's this, like, magic moment of feeling captured.

[Fightmaster]

Yeah.

[Kendall Landreth]

In a beautiful way. I've never had that with an iPhone.

[Fightmaster]

No. And I think there is something weird about, like, people. Like, my mom always makes fun of us because she's like, why would you want to use a Polaroid or a disposable camera? And I am like, because photos on an iPhone, there's something that, like, I don't know what it is. And you. I feel like you would know more. Maybe it's just what you just described, but it's like photos on an iPhone feel not. They don't feel very nostalgic. They don't feel, like, honest or they feel very. I don't know what it is.

[Jordan Myrick]

Well, I think there's something to the instant gratification of the photo that's, like, obviously nice in a way, because you can confirm or deny that you got the photo you were trying to take, but at the same time, it's like, you look at it and then all of a sudden you're like, oh, that's what I look like now, Right now, in this moment. Whether or not it's good or bad, I think it just adds this weird like layer of you perceiving yourself that normally doesn't happen in the moment. Whereas when you film or, you know, a nicer camera or whatever, you plug it into your computer later, you get the photos back, two weeks later, whatever, and you're like, oh, I remember this nice moment I was having. So I feel like that evokes more of like a memory rather than you just hyper focusing on like this is what I look like right now.

[Kendall Landreth]

Yes, I think that's true. And, and I, I'm not technical in this way at all. But you know, as someone who like works in film and TV and who takes cam, like takes photos, none of my lenses are as small as an iPhone's. And so I'm also expecting a ton, like from these things that are this big so they can fit in your.

[Fightmaster]

Pocket, but they are telling you to.

[Kendall Landreth]

Expect that they are, they're like, literally like, it's the best camera on earth. Yeah, well, no, bitch.

[Fightmaster]

Also, what the fuck is that? Flower mode? Do you know what I'm talking about?

[Jordan Myrick]

Do you know about this?

[Kendall Landreth]

No.

[Fightmaster]

Every time I go to take a photo I'm like, why is it so blurry?

[Jordan Myrick]

Circle right down at the bott them.

[Fightmaster]

It's a flower.

[Jordan Myrick]

It's for, it's yellow and it's a, it's a, an outline of a flower.

[Fightmaster]

And it's for when you're taking pictures of flowers, but for some reason and.

[Jordan Myrick]

It tells you what kind of flower it is. And this is what I'll tell you. We don't know that that's true what I just said.

[Fightmaster]

No, that is true.

[Jordan Myrick]

Do we, I've never tested it. No, we always say that because this is so weird.

[Fightmaster]

But that's part of the problem.

[Jordan Myrick]

I've got flowers.

[Fightmaster]

There's no flower in your room.

[Jordan Myrick]

No, but I'm going to see if I can do it. Just see what the mode is.

[Fightmaster]

But I, I think it's so crazy because it's the default setting on the camera. I'm like, default. I'm, I'm mostly not taking photos of a flower unless I'm like, look at that six year old woman on a hike. I'm not taking photos of a flower.

[Kendall Landreth]

They're, they're like, it's this a part of this like wave and technology for them to be a part of your experience of Nature beautiful. Yeah.

[Fightmaster]

They said you can't just go out and be by yourself.

[Kendall Landreth]

Yeah, no, no, no. I totally understand. And, you know, I do believe that, like, technology can facilitate a foray into nature especially. A lot of kids have been raised on their screens now, and so there is a little bit of this, like, interim period that needs to be spliced in order for children to want to go outside.

[Fightmaster]

Yeah.

[Jordan Myrick]

The.

[Kendall Landreth]

I recently got into. It's been like, a year, and I'm obsessed with it. I got into birding, and I got into, like, the thing that made me really psychotically obsessed about it was the Cornell app, the Merlin app. And it's like Cornell University has this thing where you can basically set your phone down, start recording. It listens to bird songs, and it tells you what songs are around and what birds. And then you can, you know, click on this segment of song and be like, okay, well, that's a. That's some kind of kingfisher. Well, this is what the kingfisher looks like. And then you look for it in the trees. It's like this whole immersive experience. And then at some point, I didn't need the app anymore.

[Fightmaster]

Yeah.

[Kendall Landreth]

And so it was this really lovely. Like, it helped make the jump. But I don't. I think the. The. The way we get lost is by believing that the technology itself is the conduit to the nature. It's not. It's a conduit to your first experience.

[Fightmaster]

Yeah.

[Kendall Landreth]

It's. It should not be there for your last.

[Jordan Myrick]

Yeah. That's so nice. I do want to know what the most exotic bird you've seen is.

[Kendall Landreth]

I saw some really. I've seen some really cool ones. I did just go to Canada, and this is not the most exotic bird I've ever seen, but I saw bald eagles, and they were flying around like they were goddamn crows.

[Jordan Myrick]

It's wild up there. We did an Alaskan cruise two years ago, and we pulled up to one port, and just hundreds. Hundreds of birds just dipping into the ocean to get fish. I was like, what is that? Someone was like, those are bald eagles.

[Kendall Landreth]

I'm obsessed with those girls.

[Jordan Myrick]

They're beautiful.

[Kendall Landreth]

They're cool.

[Jordan Myrick]

Really cool.

[Kendall Landreth]

They're cool. And also, like, I love. I love that we're. I've never. I've never once seen them in the Pacific Northwest. That belongs to the United States.

[Fightmaster]

Yeah.

[Kendall Landreth]

How did we come. How did we come to the decision that this was our bird?

[Fightmaster]

I know, because that was my school mascot in elementary school.

[Kendall Landreth]

Yeah, we love that bird. Never seen One in the U. S. I don't even think that bird has a passport to the U.S. interesting. Yeah. I said what I said.

[Jordan Myrick]

Can I ask a favor? Will you send us a photo of a bird you've taken?

[Fightmaster]

Yes. Not a photo of you've taken a bird.

[Jordan Myrick]

No. Yeah. Bird you've kidnapped.

[Kendall Landreth]

Okay.

[Jordan Myrick]

A photo you've taken of a bird. Okay. And we'll post it on our Patreon.

[Kendall Landreth]

Okay. I'll try to find a good one.

[Jordan Myrick]

It can be a bad one.

[Kendall Landreth]

Yeah, that. I. I mean, I'm sure I've got some bad ones. I. The, the worst. I don't want to become a person that has a telephoto lens because I'm like, I do think that I'll enter into pervert territory in a way I don't yet understand. But when you are, and I'm already kind of, like, slender, like an old male farmer, when I am out in the woods, like, trying to get, like, a photo of a bird with my iPhone, like the. That's the oldest. I feel it's the worst photos I've ever taken, but y'all about to see em.

[Fightmaster]

Oh, my God.

[Jordan Myrick]

I can't wait. People are gonna love that.

[Fightmaster]

This is a dating and relationship podcast. I need to know, because you're on Grey's. Who's your favorite Grey's couple of all time.

[Jordan Myrick]

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[Fightmaster]

Oh, sheet.

[Jordan Myrick]

Honey, chill.

[Kendall Landreth]

It's just laundry.

[Jordan Myrick]

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[Fightmaster]

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[Jordan Myrick]

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[Kendall Landreth]

Oh, sheet.

[Jordan Myrick]

That's what I'm saying. And Arm and Hammer Power sheets deliver.

[Kendall Landreth]

An effective, effective clean at a great price. Think of all the laundry we'll do.

[Jordan Myrick]

And all the money we'll save.

[Kendall Landreth]

Oh, sheet. Arm and Hammer.

[Jordan Myrick]

More power to you.

[Kendall Landreth]

Kai and Amelia.

[Fightmaster]

All right.

[Kendall Landreth]

Yeah, 100%. Yeah. I, I'm not giving that credit to anybody else. I think we brought the fucking heat.

[Fightmaster]

Okay.

[Jordan Myrick]

Yeah, I'm obsessed with that. I think that's extremely confident. I mean, I think. I think it's great. I agree in a way, but it's very bold.

[Kendall Landreth]

I, I. The one thing that the Grace fans know about me is I don't. I don't really watch tv. And so if you ask me right now who some other couples were, I would say my. Maybe my other favorite couple is Sandro and Ellen Pompeo. You know what I'm saying?

[Jordan Myrick]

Absolutely.

[Kendall Landreth]

That's. That's the information I'm trying to give without being disrespectful.

[Jordan Myrick]

No, I understand. I. We're in a similar boat because some might say that we don't listen to podcasts.

[Kendall Landreth]

I've never heard a podcast in my life.

[Jordan Myrick]

Yeah, we host a podcast.

[Fightmaster]

A podcast. I would not.

[Kendall Landreth]

But. But we're not. I'm sorry. We're not supposed to be doing it. We are the. We're. We are in. And we're, like, constantly, constantly having to deal with podcasts. I don't want to hear any other podcasts. We're all doing our podcasts every week. The folks get to see us, like, have a fun, nice time talking to our friends or our partners. We are answering so many irritating emails about these goddamn podcasts. Like, I don't. I. After I started running a podcast, then I start. Tried listening to the Daily again, and I couldn't think. Stop thinking about Michael Barbara C. Tomorrow, him having to, like, work with his producers to be like, I think we want to have this on, and we're thinking about talking about this, and no, we're not going to be able to talk about this. Actually, that author is going to be late. I. I can't listen to any of.

[Fightmaster]

You know, it's fun. It's absolutely bizarre, because I think so many people think of people who do this work, and maybe there are people who do it that are like this, but they think of them as very, like, narcissistic, obsessed with themselves. And I'm like, there's no world in which you hate the sound of your voice or the way that you look in the way that I do. I have to look and not even hate, because I hate the way it sounds.

[Jordan Myrick]

I'm sick of it.

[Fightmaster]

I'm so tired of it.

[Jordan Myrick]

I.

[Fightmaster]

When I have to listen, my. My least favorite thing I do in my entire job is listening back to our podcast. And I adore a podcast, but if I have to hear myself, I know so intricately every annoying thing. If you ever think Kendall does that a lot with her voice, it's like I have agonized over it so much. Like, I'm so tired of hearing it. No, I was gonna ask about.

[Kendall Landreth]

I absolutely understand.

[Fightmaster]

It was very hard. I was gonna ask about the Grey's Anatomy couples because I do feel like I. Well, I'm a big Grey's Anatomy fan, but I come in and out. I've come in and out a little bit when a couple piques my interest. I'm a big romance guy, so I love to go see what couples are going on here. And I think every time I forget that it's Grey's Anatomy, so one of them will probably die usually.

[Kendall Landreth]

Yes.

[Fightmaster]

And I'm always really affected by it. And then I take a break from Grey's Anatomy because I'm like, I'm so mad they did this to this character. And then I come back in and I forget again that it's a drama, a medical drama where people die.

[Kendall Landreth]

It's a stressful ass show.

[Fightmaster]

Yeah. To make or just to watch?

[Kendall Landreth]

It's a stressful show to watch. It's a stressful show to watch.

[Fightmaster]

Sure. Incredible.

[Jordan Myrick]

I feel like you have a huge fandom now because of it.

[Kendall Landreth]

That is true. I am, like, eternally grateful to the show for that. I think because I didn't grow up watching a ton of tv, I kind of missed the way into Grey's and so I didn't realize how massive it was still. And now I'm very aware that it's still one of the biggest shows on the planet. I think was the highest streaming show on, like, Disney plus or something this year, where I was like, yeah, that's nuts. This is absolutely nuts to me. And it makes sense. I think the show's been on for, like, 23 years, seasons. So all of these people that have been fans from the beginning, this is a literal part of your, like, intellectual identity now.

[Fightmaster]

Yeah.

[Kendall Landreth]

You've grown up with these people, like family, you know what I mean? Like, you might know Ellen Pompeo's character better than, you know, your best friend, your real mom. Yeah, it's. It's nuts. So I. I feel really privileged that I got to be on that show that was so important. And then to have a role where I got to represent, you know, queer, non binary people in a way that had not yet been done on that show was also a blessing. And I got. I think I got a really beautiful, like, endeared fan base because they were so happy about getting to see themselves on screen for the first time. So it's always nice to be a part of people's experience in that way.

[Jordan Myrick]

Yeah.

[Fightmaster]

Incredible.

[Jordan Myrick]

And they, it. They do all seem desperate to kiss you on the mouth since we're talking about dating.

[Kendall Landreth]

Yeah, they do seem desperate to kiss me. On the mouth, which, honestly, I love, and it keeps me alive. Thank you guys so much. Like, I do love that feeling. I remember feeling. I think I. I love the feeling because remember when we were growing up and there were no queer people on TV at all? And then when you would find a queer person on tv, you were like, I have to be them or have sex with them, and I don't know which. So I really, really honor the feeling of somebody watching, like, me on their favorite TV show and being like, do I want to be or do I want to kiss? The answer is probably both.

[Jordan Myrick]

Yeah, that's a really nice way to think of it.

[Fightmaster]

Well, and it's nice because now there's starting to be a little bit more options of what? Like the fact that you can watch Grey's Anatomy and be like, this is a show I actually would want to watch, and now there's a queer person on it versus. I feel like when we were growing up, you did not get to pick what TV you enjoyed.

[Jordan Myrick]

I'm heading home from school. I'm slapping on Ellen.

[Fightmaster]

Yeah.

[Kendall Landreth]

Yeah.

[Fightmaster]

Well, even recently, it's like, I had to fucking watch Bly Manor 8,000 times. Ask me what it's about. Have absolutely no idea. That plot made zero sense.

[Jordan Myrick]

That's just because you're a pervert. I just wanted to watch Bly Manor. No other queer stuff on you. Just wanted to watch.

[Fightmaster]

There's not a ton. There's not a ton. I've seen yellowjackets 80 times. There's. There was at the first season. There's one queer couple that was side characters, and I was repeat, repeat. It's sick. And now it feels like you get to actually pick what you want to watch. Look, I liked Bly Manor.

[Jordan Myrick]

You're just being like, two years ago, nothing was on TV now.

[Kendall Landreth]

But blind man, I was hot. My friend Amelia is on that show.

[Jordan Myrick]

Yes. Very hot.

[Kendall Landreth]

A very, very hot person. And Victoria Pedretti, obviously a very, very hot person. And so you actually. You were legally obligated to watch that show, or are you gay?

[Jordan Myrick]

Yeah.

[Fightmaster]

You know, and they were so hot. They were so hot in it. And I was obsessed with that, that it pushed me through that. I actually had absolutely no idea what was happening in that show completely. I also. Have you watched it?

[Kendall Landreth]

No, I don't watch anything.

[Fightmaster]

First of all, there's the spoiler alert. If you haven't watched it. The whole thing is that this lake, like, eats them or something. It's like, oh, they walk into the lake.

[Jordan Myrick]

Kendall doesn't Even remember what happened. I'm watching this Fuck. Okay?

[Kendall Landreth]

I don't.

[Fightmaster]

I've watched it a million times. The whole thing is like, at least.

[Kendall Landreth]

Like, eat them out.

[Jordan Myrick]

That's why I keep talking. I'm like, just get into hardcore pornography. Let's just subscribe to a nice. I need to have a porn website. And then we can stop watching these TV shows that I don't like.

[Fightmaster]

I need Victoria Pedretti to be, like, crying in anything I like. I just need. I need the drama. She's so good at that. But it's like.

[Kendall Landreth]

Did you watch her in the other one?

[Fightmaster]

What?

[Kendall Landreth]

Haunting of Him?

[Jordan Myrick]

No.

[Fightmaster]

Because there were no gay people in it, I don't think.

[Kendall Landreth]

It didn't matter. Shoes in it. She was gorgeous.

[Fightmaster]

Gorgeous. But that's my point. It's like I was really watching. She's always crying.

[Kendall Landreth]

She was crying.

[Jordan Myrick]

What's going on with you two? She's so hot and she cries.

[Kendall Landreth]

I got. I'm gonna fix her.

[Fightmaster]

Yeah, right. It's like she plays the classic, like, someone. Amelia, go comfort her. It's, like, so great. It's so good. But, like, my point is that I never watched Haunting of Hill House because, like, that's just not my type of show. Bly Manor is not really my type of show. The way that I've read 800,000 fanfictions about Bly Manor.

[Kendall Landreth]

You're a fan.

[Fightmaster]

Fiction. And I don't even, like, really, like.

[Jordan Myrick]

Kendall's a big fanfic guy.

[Fightmaster]

I am.

[Jordan Myrick]

I'm trying to, like, make to do lists with her at the end of the night. Like, she's just. I can see. She's laying in bed. She's turned over, her phone is like this close to her face. And what do I always say?

[Fightmaster]

Because I'm so ashamed. Jordan, go. What are you doing? I always go, oh, I'm reading my little books.

[Jordan Myrick]

Reading my little books. Just straight up, full brightness. This close to her face, fully turned away from me as if she's hiding something.

[Fightmaster]

I'm addicted.

[Kendall Landreth]

I love that.

[Fightmaster]

And it's always the scene that the most famous one in the fanfics for Bly Manor is when she pulls her out of the lake. My point is never put a fence around the lake. It doesn't matter. I could go on. They don't.

[Kendall Landreth]

She pulls her out of the lake.

[Fightmaster]

She eventually does, but then it's too late at one point.

[Kendall Landreth]

But in the fanfic, she pulls her out of the lake and they be fucking.

[Fightmaster]

Yep. It is good stuff.

[Kendall Landreth]

Fanfic rules.

[Fightmaster]

It's incredible.

[Jordan Myrick]

I hate it.

[Fightmaster]

You've never tried it.

[Jordan Myrick]

Yes, I have.

[Fightmaster]

What fanfic did you try to When I was young. Frasier fanfiction, probably.

[Jordan Myrick]

Frasier fanfiction.

[Fightmaster]

I believe it.

[Jordan Myrick]

Between the dad and Roz. No, I just don't. Sorry, sorry. Call me old fashioned.

[Kendall Landreth]

I won't.

[Jordan Myrick]

I like old school pornography. A video? Yeah.

[Fightmaster]

Whenever Jordan shows me porn to watch, it looks like something out of a. It looks like something out of a 1950s.

[Jordan Myrick]

I like two professional porn stars.

[Fightmaster]

Were they walking in there?

[Jordan Myrick]

You know, porn stars.

[Fightmaster]

I'm here to clean your house.

[Jordan Myrick]

Yeah.

[Fightmaster]

That's the type of stuff that's what.

[Jordan Myrick]

I like because they're actors and I respect the craft. I don't like it when it's, oh, weird. Like the cameras over there. Oh, do they not know? I'm like, is this, are they actors? Is this leaked footage? I don't like it. I want to 100 know that these people want to be there. They're doing their job. They consented. I want them to be whatever. Yeah. Like a lady that's fixing a pool and a woman who owns the Airbnb or whatever the. Whatever the scenario is. That's what I want.

[Kendall Landreth]

I had a brief friendship with a person in Amsterdam who worked in the porn. Feminist porn industry. And they were an absolute cutie patootie. And they were telling me about a scene that they did where they showed up on set and they found out that the other worker was their exact. And so the director was like, you know, a woman and a feminist and sat them down across like the table from each other and was like, I want to make sure this feels good. If you guys still want to do it, let's do some drawing. And then they sat down, they said they did some drawing, like with grants and stuff. They kind of connected and caught up and then they banged it the out and had a great time, got back together. I didn't ask.

[Jordan Myrick]

Wow. I mean, I think that's beautiful. And I also think gay people need to be stopped. You know what I mean?

[Kendall Landreth]

I think I have been saying that you can't say that anymore now because they're gonna put us in camps. But, but when, when they're stop us.

[Jordan Myrick]

I want to stop them. No, I don't want anyone stopping me.

[Kendall Landreth]

Exactly. I want to. I want to hurt my community.

[Jordan Myrick]

Yeah, absolutely. 100.

[Kendall Landreth]

Yeah. I, I say that to queer people all the time and make sure we're hurting each other on the inside. Don't let them hurt us.

[Jordan Myrick]

Absolutely.

[Kendall Landreth]

And don't Let us watch. I don't want them to see us hurting each other.

[Jordan Myrick]

Yes. It's gotta be private. It's gotta be. It's gotta be secret. It's gotta be under wraps like it has historically been.

[Fightmaster]

Yeah, but we have to start yelling at each other again. Like some people. Sometimes you meet a gay person, you're like, people have been too scared to tell you that you're being annoying.

[Kendall Landreth]

Yelling at other queer people should happen. Exactly. Like we're doing it right now.

[Jordan Myrick]

Yeah, yeah. On a.

[Fightmaster]

Is this you yelling at us?

[Kendall Landreth]

This is. We're yelling at each other.

[Jordan Myrick]

Yeah.

[Kendall Landreth]

And it's. It's. It's yelling, but it's also flirting.

[Jordan Myrick]

Right.

[Kendall Landreth]

It's also friendship.

[Jordan Myrick]

And it's a multimedia experience. Some people are watching, some people are listening. Some people have paid to watch this behind a paywall. There's a lot of different ways you can consume it. And I think that adds to it.

[Kendall Landreth]

You should be watching it. There's a lot of leg.

[Fightmaster]

There's a lot of leg featured in the Visual.

[Jordan Myrick]

We're about 150% leg over here today.

[Kendall Landreth]

Yeah. 4K, 6 leg.

[Jordan Myrick]

We're all pretty tall. How tall are you?

[Kendall Landreth]

Six, one.

[Jordan Myrick]

Okay, man.

[Kendall Landreth]

Yeah.

[Fightmaster]

That's awesome.

[Kendall Landreth]

You're tall. You're Both tall.

[Jordan Myrick]

Yeah.

[Fightmaster]

5, 10, 5, 9.

[Kendall Landreth]

Hey, why do you say like that?

[Fightmaster]

You're not 5, 9. I'm not. You've said 5, 8. What are you trying to be cool?

[Jordan Myrick]

It's so funny.

[Kendall Landreth]

Like.

[Jordan Myrick]

But right now I'm five, nine. Shut up. I'm not gonna marry you. My back. Seriously.

[Fightmaster]

We're gonna do a little segment called Red flag, Green flag. This week we're doing red flags. So we're gonna pose to you. Or we can go first. Each of us are going to say a red flag.

[Jordan Myrick]

I think it's more kind if we go first. I think we have the guest on the spot.

[Fightmaster]

I think maybe. Why don't you go ahead, Jordan?

[Jordan Myrick]

My red flag is marathon running. I think it's wrong. I think it's evil. I think it is a form of self harm disguised behind health. Who decided. What is it, 26.7 miles?

[Kendall Landreth]

I think it was the Greeks.

[Jordan Myrick]

Okay. And they've done really bad in a lot of other ways. Their economy is garbage. Like, why are we trusting them all of a sudden? We're still doing. Oh, we don't do. Like, we're not doing gay bath houses in America. Like, the Greeks did. What? We have to do the running thing. I don't like that. Why is it what people Are like, it's not 26.7. Let's pretend it is. It's close enough to that. I'm not that wrong. My best friend is a marathon runner. It's disturbing. All of his free time is spent running around to nothing from nothing. And 26.7 miles, it's so long for no reason. And then you see these people at the end of marathons. They're.

[Fightmaster]

They're covered in shit.

[Jordan Myrick]

Yeah. Some of these people, like, defecate or peel over themselves, like, while they're running. Some of them wear diapers. They get to the end, go.

[Fightmaster]

That's very normal for marathon runners. I'm like, then stop marathon running.

[Jordan Myrick]

And they get to the end, they collapse. You have to put a tin foil blanket around them. What about that is good? I'm like, okay, a half marathon. Sure. I can get on board a 10K. I'm here for it. I'm all about healthy movement. But why are we acting like this thing that is so bizarre and unnecessary and I would argue actually not good for you is like, the pinnacle of health.

[Kendall Landreth]

I think it's funny because I can't. I wish I could remember which exactly. Like, ancient story it is, but it's like. It's like one, like, by battle. There was a battle that was happening. I forget if it was like the Greeks or the Romans and somebody had to run, like, 26.4 or whatever miles it is, 24.6 to go tell, like, the town, like, hey, we all are about to die. Like, hey, it's bad. And I think that where I agree with you outright is that was obviously a very traumatic incident for that person. Like, can you imagine them, like, having to run? Like, you know, however, we're gonna just say, let's round it up to 100 probably no shoes. 100 miles in, in those nasty little medieval sandals. Just like, hey, everyone's about to die.

[Jordan Myrick]

Yeah. No chafing cream. No tape on your nose.

[Kendall Landreth]

And then you find out. You find out when you're sitting up in heaven, if heaven exists, you're looking down there and all these people are doing it for fun.

[Fightmaster]

Insane.

[Kendall Landreth]

In shoes that have clouds on the ankles.

[Fightmaster]

No, they're sucking things out of pouches. It's like, it just literally stop. You ever seen a marathon runner's feet?

[Jordan Myrick]

Disgusting.

[Fightmaster]

Oh, sorry, I can't. I can't take off my sock. I have a toenail on my heel.

[Jordan Myrick]

I'm like, you need disgusting. If they have any toenails at all. It's really wild. Oedipus had sex with his mom. We don't do that anymore.

[Kendall Landreth]

Right.

[Jordan Myrick]

Why are we. Right? Right.

[Kendall Landreth]

Comment?

[Jordan Myrick]

If it's right, why are we still running marathons? I just think it's so weird. I think it's really bad for you. All these people that are marathon runners have to get new knees when they're 40. You're not supposed to need new knees. You know, if. If something happens to you, you're in a car accident, you need new knees. You know, things happen. But you're not supposed to be doing something as a hobby.

[Kendall Landreth]

Let life traumatize you. Don't traumatize yourself.

[Jordan Myrick]

Yes. Your hobby shouldn't make you need new knees.

[Kendall Landreth]

That little fucker would not have been running however many miles it is if. If not to tell everybody that they are about to die.

[Jordan Myrick]

Thank you.

[Kendall Landreth]

You know what I'm saying? That trauma happened to them.

[Jordan Myrick]

Right. Thank you.

[Fightmaster]

Right.

[Jordan Myrick]

And I'll tie this up by saying it's my red flag if you want to do it. I think everyone should be allowed to do whatever they want as long as it doesn't hurt anyone else. So if you're a marathon runner, like my best friend Colin, God bless. I think you're so strange, but, like, I love that you love something. Ultimately, that being said, you're not better than me, and you're not better than anyone else that runs a marathon in. You love running marathons in the same way that I love doing something that's bad for me.

[Kendall Landreth]

Smoking cigarettes after you have six drinks.

[Jordan Myrick]

Delicious.

[Kendall Landreth]

Yeah.

[Jordan Myrick]

And I don't post on Instagram about that.

[Kendall Landreth]

No, I would never tell anyone about that. In fact, I don't do that.

[Fightmaster]

I also think it's funny that people do marathons often after a traumatic event. Like, I feel like people will be like, my husband died. I'm running a marathon. I just beat cancer. I'm running a marathon. I'm like, if I ever have something like that happen, you will not catch me trying to find another thing.

[Kendall Landreth]

No, I'm moving to Portugal.

[Jordan Myrick]

Absolutely.

[Kendall Landreth]

You're gonna catch me on the coast bit.

[Fightmaster]

I'm not putting your face on a shirt and running 30 miles. I mean, that is.

[Kendall Landreth]

Although I think that would be really cool.

[Fightmaster]

But why someone else should do it. I'm like, I've already been through something so terrible. Why am I now having to do a. I'm having to run like that poor man.

[Jordan Myrick]

Yeah. She's not running unless I'm chasing her. Yeah, right.

[Kendall Landreth]

Hey, that's cute.

[Jordan Myrick]

Thank you. All right, are you ready with yours?

[Fightmaster]

My red flag? I'm changing it. My red flag is that I feel that the Garfield movie gets a lot of hate. I genuinely believe the Garfield movie is the funniest movie of all time. Have you seen it recently?

[Kendall Landreth]

I can't say it is an.

[Fightmaster]

It is a incredible movie. It is back to back jokes, laugh out loud funny. It holds up. It's still relevant. I haven't seen Tale of Two Kitties because every time I go to watch it, I just want to re watch the first again. It's absolutely awesome.

[Jordan Myrick]

So I'm gonna apologize with you, and I'm gonna have a conversation with Kendall after the episode about what a red flag is. Because ultimately, Kendall just wants to talk about the Garfield movie, which she found her love for when she recently watched it on a plane. And she was laughing out loud so violently that I had to turn over and say, you're being too loud on the plane.

[Fightmaster]

It's such a good movie.

[Kendall Landreth]

Your red flag was like, My red flag is.

[Jordan Myrick]

I love a movie, but I want to talk about it.

[Fightmaster]

No, my red flag is you, Jordan. My red flag is Jordan.

[Jordan Myrick]

Come on.

[Fightmaster]

My red flag is that. That.

[Jordan Myrick]

No, no, I'm not standing for this.

[Fightmaster]

No.

[Jordan Myrick]

Yeah, tell.

[Fightmaster]

But it's your attitude around it.

[Jordan Myrick]

No, Tell. What's your attitude?

[Fightmaster]

Garfield night for me. They made lasagna. We watched Garfield, and I'm the red flag. But. But you don't think it's funny, and I think that is a red flag.

[Jordan Myrick]

That is not fair.

[Fightmaster]

But how are you not.

[Jordan Myrick]

The movies I watch, that's like saying.

[Fightmaster]

Like, Mr. Bean isn't funny. It's just straight up wrong.

[Jordan Myrick]

Kendall loves Mr. Bean as well. When we. We went to the UK for a work thing with Spotify, and as the plane wheels touched the ground of England, Kendall went, we've got to stop somewhere as soon as we get off this plane so I can get a Mr. Bean keychain. And that's what we did.

[Fightmaster]

And it broke immediately. So I've got to go back to London. All right, what's your red flag?

[Kendall Landreth]

Oh, man, it's so beautiful to watch, like, other couples because, like, the. The fights I get in with my partner are so, like. Like, to me, they feel so intense and from. And like, it's me, like, arguing for, like, saying that, like, my cat. Like, this was a serious one where I was like, chim, my cat does not like overhead lighting. I've asked you.

[Fightmaster]

Diva alert.

[Kendall Landreth]

I've asked you multiple times not to come into a room and just flick on a fucking light. Create an ambiance and, you know, it starts as, like, a little bit of a joke, but then all of a sudden you realize that we're fighting because she only does overhead lighting. And I'm like, it literally pisses me off. It's changing our evening together. Yeah, I know. Somebody watched us have that fight and was truly like.

[Jordan Myrick]

Yeah.

[Fightmaster]

And is that how you felt just now watching us talk about Garfield?

[Kendall Landreth]

It was intoxicating to me. Like, if I knew that that could be a TV show, I would. I would tune back into the TV for that.

[Jordan Myrick]

That's so sweet. I do think that's a tip for the listeners is. Is if you're fighting about religion, morals, things like that, find a new partner. What you should be fighting about.

[Kendall Landreth]

That is so true. That's honest to God true.

[Jordan Myrick]

I mean, what. What you should be fighting about are truly the dumbest possibly think of.

[Kendall Landreth]

Yes. I want you and your intellectual equal to be tripping each other over on, like, dumb shit. Because that is actually. That's love. Right? My partner and I believe in that. We have the same ethics and morals. That's important. We're not. I'm not being like, yeah, you know, I don't even ask who she votes for psychotic. I'm fully like, if you keep barraging my cat with that overhead lighting. Yeah. You're gonna find yourself on the street.

[Jordan Myrick]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Kendall Landreth]

You won't be welcome here anymore.

[Fightmaster]

What type of cat?

[Kendall Landreth]

Hot.

[Jordan Myrick]

Hot and rude.

[Kendall Landreth]

He's so hot, I can't even stand it. He's so just like fluffy Jesus. Really? Yeah. Oh, my God, that's cool. Fluffy. Big. God damn.

[Jordan Myrick]

So it sounds like your red flag is overhead lighting.

[Kendall Landreth]

I fucking hate overhead lighting. I will. I will. Straight. That is my red flag. You. You spend all this money on a space just to make it unbearable, to make everybody look bad.

[Fightmaster]

Yeah.

[Kendall Landreth]

Why? How. How come you want shadows in your house? What is wrong with you people? It is nasty. Put on a lamp, create a golden hue. This is like the iPhone, verse, film, conversation. I understand it takes a second longer to turn on the lamps, but then once the lamps are on and the overhead lighting is off, you're already having sex.

[Fightmaster]

Yeah, well, there's. There's things that when they are in a home, romance cannot exist. Like, to me, you have to kind of keep this sort of olden day vibe to your home in order for romance to feel real.

[Kendall Landreth]

Yes.

[Fightmaster]

It's like, why I'm not spraying a flashlight in your face. I'm using a candle. You know what I mean?

[Jordan Myrick]

Holding a candle in my Face, you're throwing a candle in my head.

[Fightmaster]

Flashlight example is Brian.

[Jordan Myrick]

No, no, I. You're right.

[Kendall Landreth]

I.

[Jordan Myrick]

You know, I. I once again, don't want to be a company man. But I do have to say, and I think I'm maybe the only gay person that feels like this.

[Kendall Landreth]

Oh, no.

[Jordan Myrick]

I am tired of going into queer spaces and not being able to see anything. I like the overhead light. It's clear, it's effective. It's doing what needs to be done. I understand the ambiance. I understand the romance.

[Fightmaster]

Well, you really don't understand.

[Jordan Myrick]

I think there's a time and a place for it, but I'm sick of walking into a gay person's house and being like, oh, I cannot see my way to your couch. I cannot find the toilet paper in your bathroom.

[Fightmaster]

Why don't you sit down and have some THC mold wine?

[Jordan Myrick]

Yeah, I know not.

[Fightmaster]

Look anywhere and whatever lips find you, find you.

[Jordan Myrick]

I don't want to.

[Fightmaster]

And if not.

[Kendall Landreth]

And let's be real, your friend is sober and it's all they talk about. So why don't you have some Lacroix?

[Jordan Myrick]

I don't want to do any of that. I want to sit in a room this bright, the three of us looking directly at each other, like we are now being able to see everything around us to make sure there's not an active shooter in sight. My constant fear, you're this for you.

[Kendall Landreth]

So I'm gonna tell you guys two things that are unforgivable to me that's happened today.

[Jordan Myrick]

All right? All right.

[Fightmaster]

Just so don't bring up the Garfield movie or you're out of here.

[Kendall Landreth]

Just so you understand that it's fair, okay? When you said that shit about Mr. Bean, I felt sick.

[Jordan Myrick]

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[Kendall Landreth]

Podcast terms apply. I felt sick. I felt transported to a different time and place. I didn't know it was happening. I felt out of my body. I was dissociating. Right now with the lights. I feel sick about that.

[Jordan Myrick]

I understand.

[Kendall Landreth]

I feel sick. But you guys had a lot of soul searching to do.

[Fightmaster]

You've ever seen Mr. Bean. You see him getting that tiny little car? That's hilarious. Bring back slapstick.

[Jordan Myrick]

I think it's beautiful. Kendall and I are fucked up. Just right, just for each other.

[Fightmaster]

Just right, Just so.

[Jordan Myrick]

That's what's so beautiful. Yeah, but I like clarity, you know? I like clarity in all things.

[Kendall Landreth]

It's wholesome. The stuff. The stuff y'all are agreeing and disagreeing about is wholesome. I'm not walking out of here and saying this is not a perfect match. I'm. I'm happy y'all found each other.

[Jordan Myrick]

Thank you so much. Fucked up match.

[Kendall Landreth]

Yeah, you said.

[Jordan Myrick]

But it's not wrong. I hate both of them, but I think they're incredible to me together.

[Kendall Landreth]

My. I'm gonna go home. I'm gonna go home. I'm gonna call my gal. I'm gonna say, listen, I heard some stuff today that made me feel really grateful about you. And one of them said, you never, ever brought up Mr. Bean. I'm gonna forgive her for the overhead lighting. I'm gonna.

[Fightmaster]

But not Mr. Bean.

[Kendall Landreth]

No.

[Fightmaster]

Mine's based in pure joy.

[Kendall Landreth]

I couldn't live that way.

[Fightmaster]

You've never even seen it.

[Jordan Myrick]

Listen, is it embarrassing that Kendall likes Mr. Bean? Yeah, it's. Does she have a fat enough ass that it makes it okay? 100.

[Fightmaster]

That's like saying. Not like. That's hot.

[Kendall Landreth]

Take that.

[Jordan Myrick]

Come on.

[Fightmaster]

No, because if you come from.

[Jordan Myrick]

No, no.

[Fightmaster]

You go too far if you don't think Mr. Bean is funny. Do you guys not think Tom and Jerry's funny? That's, like, the same thing. Tom and Jerry's hilarious. All right, you know what? We move on, because I can't.

[Jordan Myrick]

I'm gonna get to some audience questions.

[Kendall Landreth]

Wholesome as hell.

[Jordan Myrick]

Let's get to some audience questions. Also, Kendall's, like, pretty young, so why she likes these things that are so old? It's haunting, but it's feeling.

[Kendall Landreth]

It's feeling very youthful. Your loves are very youthful.

[Jordan Myrick]

Kendall is filled with a childlike.

[Fightmaster]

Chased around. Is never not funny. Someone's slipping. Never not funny. It's why America's Funniest on Videos is such a hit.

[Jordan Myrick]

So, and I'll say this. This is probably the biggest difference between Kendall and I, a lot of people, because Kendall and I have very different energies. I think Kendall's energy is very wholesome. My energy is very intense. And I know that that is how it reads. Kendall and I are almost exactly the same when we're alone in private. We are so like, the same person in different Fonts. The biggest thing we disagree on is that there is nothing I hate more in this entire world than seeing a video of a person get hurt. And I know that's a very popular comedy genre.

[Fightmaster]

I'm searching Hit in the Balls compilations.

[Kendall Landreth]

On my I Love a Fail video.

[Jordan Myrick]

I. I cannot watch them. They make me feel sick to my stomach. I'm like, where is that person now? They probably felt so embarrassed when it happened. It probably just like, well, some of.

[Fightmaster]

Them are so bad. It'll be on America's Funny Videos. I'm like, for sure they're dead. Then it'll be like, they're. They're. It's not even. Some of them aren't even funny. It'll be like, it's just a crash. Like a bike crash. And I'm like, this is funny. That person definitely is.

[Kendall Landreth]

And on it on Instagram, I am sure that, like, some of them die. And people in the comments being like, hey, I kind of came on here for like a ball show shot. Like, I didn't want to see, like.

[Fightmaster]

You have to have class.

[Jordan Myrick]

Yeah.

[Fightmaster]

That's why I got off the Internet. I go to Mr. Bean. We'll move on.

[Kendall Landreth]

Okay.

[Fightmaster]

There's a lot of that type of thing on Mr. Bean. This week we're gonna be answering questions about dating and gender. And if you're like, why the hell was I not offered a moment to ask a question? You can head on over to our Instagram or you can email us@hwhlpod questions gmail.com.

[Jordan Myrick]

This first question comes from our Instagram. And this person wants to know if we have any tips on dating a gender non conforming person. I'm assuming this means as someone who's not gender non conforming.

[Kendall Landreth]

Hmm. Any tips? I don't know. I feel like really communicating all the time. And I think that that could be considered like a cliche answer. But I think that people that are gender non conforming, their gender is so actually fluid that I find like, talking about sex and talking about how we're feeling on a certain day, like, what. What gender I feel like really landed in, really comfortable with, helps me feel realized by my partner.

[Fightmaster]

Yeah.

[Kendall Landreth]

And so. And that is really hot and horny to me. And like even being able to like, communicate in a way we communicate over. Communicate so much about gender that we can joke about it more, you know, and so that would be not being afraid to have those conversations all the time.

[Fightmaster]

Yeah.

[Kendall Landreth]

Who are we today?

[Fightmaster]

I love that. I love that that's one of them. That's a great answer.

[Jordan Myrick]

I also think it's nice to. Being open to change, I think is really important. And I think being respectful of the fact that, like, some people feel like their identities are not fluid, and some people feel like their identities are fluid. So for me, I feel like my identity is very fluid. I do not feel tied to gender in any way whatsoever. I identify as gender non conforming, but would in a perfect world identify as, like, gender irrelevant. I just don't think about it. It doesn't feel like part of me or my personhood. But also, there are people who, regardless of what their gender identity is, feel very strongly tied to that. And I think being on the same page with your partner about how you feel about your own gender so they can know how to treat you according to that is also helpful.

[Fightmaster]

Yeah.

[Jordan Myrick]

Because I think sometimes I get people that are like, you know, I'll see comments where it'll be like, she's such an unfunny bitch. And then the comment underneath will be like, asterisk. They.

[Kendall Landreth]

They are such an unfunny bitch.

[Jordan Myrick]

Yeah. And I'm like, if y'all.

[Kendall Landreth]

I want everyone at home to hear this. Stop leaving fucking weird comments like that. Stop doing that kind of.

[Fightmaster]

We're gonna have you come on every episode and do a little interlude in the middle.

[Kendall Landreth]

I don't like that these are people that you're talking about. Okay. And you're hurting our feelings. God damn it.

[Jordan Myrick]

Yep. Because I'm like, I don't need you to be a gender warrior for me in the comments because I really don't care. I use any pronouns. I do not care about pronouns. Personally, I would like for you to defend my honor.

[Kendall Landreth]

What's up? Well, what's up?

[Fightmaster]

Say that it's funny because it. I feel like I'll have a similar thing with the way my name is spelled. My name is spelled a little weird. It's K, E, N, D, A, H, L. My mom kind of threw a silent H in there.

[Kendall Landreth]

Yeah.

[Fightmaster]

And she said she wanted to look pretty incursive. I can't write incursive, but unfortunately for her, she spelled it a little weird. And people will be like on Reddit, and they'll be like, kendall can go themselves. They're the worst person that's ever lived, and I hate them so much.

[Jordan Myrick]

And then.

[Fightmaster]

But they'll spell my name correctly. And I'm like, you must have gone to my Instagram and very respectfully made sure that you were spelling my name right. It's such a juxtaposition. Such a layered person that would do that.

[Jordan Myrick]

Ultimately, I count those as fans.

[Fightmaster]

I do too. I'm like, thank you. No one spells my name right. That's very kind, but it's just so bizarre because I'm like, you clearly don't care about upsetting me. Why are you spelling my name right? But to them, it's.

[Kendall Landreth]

They're like, that is respectful when you say gender irrelevant. What. What part of your gender presentation is. Or your presentation is important to you, brings you joy or confidence on a daily basis.

[Jordan Myrick]

I think in a perfect world, none of it. Right. Like, if everything was just in a vacuum, I would love to not think or care at all what I look like. But for me, gender gets tied up in, like, what I feel internally and how I know I am perceived. I think there's a world where I'm going from they she to they he. If I could pull off a short haircut.

[Kendall Landreth]

Mm.

[Jordan Myrick]

I think there's a world where that's true.

[Kendall Landreth]

Mm.

[Jordan Myrick]

Ultimately, my face is so round. My hair needs to be this length.

[Kendall Landreth]

Rochon.

[Jordan Myrick]

I will always be perceived, for the most part, as a woman, for better or for worse. I know in so many ways, that's like a privilege. I think that's. That's. It helps me. It hurts me, whatever it is. So I think there are things where it's like, inside, I feel completely neutral on gender. Outside, I know how I'm perceived and how that affects me. This is not the answer to your question. This is just something that came to my mind.

[Kendall Landreth]

No, I, I. But that's. It is interesting that. But that, I guess that was my question is like, when you were talking about gender irrelevance. I always wonder in those moments when people are like, gender doesn't matter to me at all, like, what they are feeling that I feel like the thing that you're talking about not mattering to you at all is presentation is not mattering to you at all, because your gender understanding seems really, like, kind of vast.

[Jordan Myrick]

Sure.

[Kendall Landreth]

You know what I mean? Like, important in a way that makes you be like, actually, I'm not gonna take stock. And if anyone can see my internal universe of stars, you know what I mean? But it is like, I'm sorry. I was just really honing in on thinking about irrelevant as, like, well, what part of it is irrelevant? Because, like, it's a. It's becoming irrelevant to me now. I've been like, they. Them for so long when people are like, there she is. I fully. I can't even. I don't even hear it, but it doesn't hurt me.

[Jordan Myrick]

Yeah.

[Kendall Landreth]

Like, I literally look around for who they're talking about, and then when I realize it's me, I'm like, oh, my God, that's so funny. You went, what a silly billy.

[Jordan Myrick]

Yeah, you have.

[Kendall Landreth]

You don't know who I am at all. But then my gender is still important to me, but they are irrelevant.

[Jordan Myrick]

Yeah, that 100% makes sense to me as well. I think I'm just, like, so much to me in terms of presentation that's interesting to me is more like aesthetics, the things that I put on. But once again, they're not particularly gendered things. So I would say when I see something that feels like the most interesting to me, aesthetic wise, it is like a mix in masculine and feminine. It's like a drag queen with a big beard, you know? Like, that, I feel like, is what's most interesting to me. But also all of that is very put on. Those aren't the things that I naturally am bringing to the table. It's like, I wanna wear huge earrings and a big clown shirt with shrimp all over it. That, to me, is what is interesting in terms of presentation. But in terms of all the other aspects of me, I think it's also, like, I've been a lot of different weights, and I think that really can affect your gender presentation. Because I think typically, the heavier as. Like, someone who presents as female was assigned female at birth. The heavier you are, the more you are perceived as a woman. And so I think I've become accustomed to that. Where I think when I was younger, I wasn't perceived as so womanly because I was very thin. Like, I think so many weird things go into it.

[Kendall Landreth]

Totally.

[Jordan Myrick]

So I've just become where I'm kind of like, I don't really think about my own gender, and I don't really care about it. And also extending to, like, I identify as a lesbian, but also, like, if tomorrow Kendall was like, I'm actually a trans man, I would be like, great. Do you want me to not use lesbian anymore? I will use a different term. Whatever. Like, feels good to you? To me, Yeah. I just don't. Other than how I'm perceived, I don't think much about gender, I guess.

[Fightmaster]

Yeah.

[Jordan Myrick]

I don't know.

[Kendall Landreth]

Cool.

[Jordan Myrick]

It's always very complicated, and there's so many things of, like, there's like, you know, and then there's privilege attached to it, and it's like, there's so much stuff around it.

[Fightmaster]

Yeah.

[Kendall Landreth]

I love hearing the way that people are understanding gender for themselves because it's. The only people that aren't very interesting to me at all are the ones that aren't thinking about gender at all because they are doing what they were told. And I think that for most queer people, the thing that's so fascinating about us is that we have. Because we didn't immediately fit into anything.

[Fightmaster]

Yeah.

[Kendall Landreth]

We have deciphered every single aspect of our life and continue to.

[Fightmaster]

Yeah.

[Kendall Landreth]

And so it's like, I don't know, it's always just fun to hear people organize their thoughts well.

[Fightmaster]

And it's really complicated too, because I feel like it is hard to separate. It's like, okay, this is what's on the inside. And then this is what society has told me. And I'm, you know, why do I feel more masculine when I, like, go to the gym and work out? Well, it's because, you know, it's like all mixed up and all these weird things. And I was talking. I like went to a gender therapist for a little bit and she was talking about how like a lot of like, like Mormons come to gender. Like ex Mormons will come to gender therapy or really religious people. And they have such a hard time because they're like, I don't feel like. I'm like. I'm like, if they're a woman, they're like, I don't feel like I'm a man. I don't really know what I feel like. But I have been presented this very specific thing of a woman. So it's made me go, oh, maybe I am trans or maybe I'm non binary because to me, because I don't like the role. Yeah. It's like I can't imagine being a woman and not wanting to be this very specific thing that's been in front of me my whole life. So I think it, it can feel so, like at sometimes so simple and then sometimes so complicated and like overwhelming.

[Jordan Myrick]

Yeah, well. And then you break anything down. You're like, oh, well, I feel more masculine than feminine. And then you're like, but what is masculinity and what. You know, it's all. So it's just like. It's kind of that thing where it's like you pull one thread and then all of a sudden like the whole garment unravels.

[Kendall Landreth]

Yes.

[Jordan Myrick]

And that's why I think non binary and gender non conforming are such nice terms to be able to use, because it feels like I can just be like, why do I need to have an answer? Why do I need to be like, this is the exact gender outline for myself, for me to present to you. It's like, my gender is the least interesting thing about me. It, for me, it's not something I feel attached to. So why do I need to present it in a neat package to, like, strangers?

[Kendall Landreth]

You have to present it in a neat package for capitalism so that it can be consumed. But I do think that your, like, the gender that we're all talking about, these, like, energetics that we're all talking about are our sense of self is actually rooted in our own humanity, which is, like, not exactly tied to our genitals and is not tied to our societal roles. And so that makes us very dangerous to an entire system that's built on gendered labor. Is if I'm like, actually, well, I'm a human being first and I'd like to be understood as a human being. Well, it's harder to even have a draft if you think everybody's a human being. And it's harder to create a genocide if you think everybody's a human being. And it's harder to justify people mining for material so that you can have your fucking Apple laptop if everybody's a human being. Everything is harder to justify in a capitalist society if. If we're all human beings 100%. But it's not hard to justify capitalism if half of your population is this gendered workforce and half is this gendered workforce.

[Jordan Myrick]

Yeah, it's very specific roles for everyone to play. That does not rock the boat.

[Kendall Landreth]

Yep.

[Jordan Myrick]

Sick. Sorry. I have an Apple laptop.

[Kendall Landreth]

Me too.

[Jordan Myrick]

I don't know how to work on the other ones. Throw me.

[Fightmaster]

Throw it.

[Jordan Myrick]

I don't know how to work the other ones.

[Kendall Landreth]

No, I don't either. It's like a T83 calculator or it's an Apple laptop laptop. And the Apple laptop doesn't do anything.

[Jordan Myrick]

Or it feels like it's a computer from NASA.

[Kendall Landreth]

My, my God.

[Jordan Myrick]

Sometimes these computers are like. I'm like, I just need to send one singular email and I don't know how to do it.

[Kendall Landreth]

You have to contact the satellites.

[Fightmaster]

It's all gotten way too complicated. I tried to go on GarageBand the other day because I said when I was younger, I used to make all these little beats on Rock Band. They sounded terrible. But I do a little piano here, a little drumming here.

[Kendall Landreth]

Go on.

[Fightmaster]

I get on GarageBand the other day. Way too complicated. It was like I was a DJ at something. I couldn't do anything on there.

[Jordan Myrick]

And I got like a Simple beat.

[Fightmaster]

I was trying. I was like, we will go on there and make a song.

[Kendall Landreth]

You're gonna find out that they have an account where they're rapping over.

[Jordan Myrick]

That's really soon. I didn't know you were doing that while I was at work. That's really sweet.

[Fightmaster]

I gotta start working.

[Jordan Myrick]

I gotta get.

[Fightmaster]

I wasn't doing any of my work. I was making. Well, I was trying to make beats on my.

[Kendall Landreth]

Reading your porn, and you're making beats?

[Jordan Myrick]

Yeah, totally. And then I come home, I'm like, did you take the laundry out of the dryer? She's like, I was working. I was working all day.

[Fightmaster]

I turn off Mr. Bean really fast.

[Jordan Myrick]

This person wants to know how they can emphasize in their Hinge bio that they would like to start a relationship as friends.

[Fightmaster]

I don't know. I'm kind of just.

[Jordan Myrick]

I think it's wrong. I think they're wrong. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I think they're wrong. Right? Am I wrong?

[Kendall Landreth]

Oh, no, I agree with you.

[Jordan Myrick]

Why. Why are you trying. You know, we got Bumble bff. You can use that. I think what maybe you're looking for is starting a relationship from a place of feeling connected and comfortable before you fog. And you don't have to be friends if you're. If you're trying to make friends with the end goal of having sex with them, really hard to make a solid friendship. I would say, if that's the plan.

[Fightmaster]

You're not in When Harry Met Sally. You know what I mean? Sometimes I'm like, when you tell the story of how you met, or when you tell, it might be amazing, but probably it will just be really normal, but it doesn't really matter to anyone. And maybe your story when people are like, how did you meet? Isn't as good, but it just, like, it doesn't need to be that. I think when you go on Hinge, there's a lot of people who are looking to find a relationship. They need someone to walk their dog, stat. They don't have time to build something.

[Kendall Landreth]

Which is what a relationship is. I do like that. Yeah.

[Fightmaster]

I need someone to walk my dog.

[Kendall Landreth]

No, I hear that. I think that I. And I'm sorry. This is gonna sound mean, but it's not me. I'm coming from a place of love.

[Jordan Myrick]

Yeah, it always is.

[Kendall Landreth]

I don't think this person should be dating. Oh, no, no, sweetie. Take a break. If I'm. I'm never. I'm not gonna go through the fucking trouble of going on a date. And then be like, I want to be friends for. No, no, no. Dating. Yuck. Yuck.

[Fightmaster]

Yeah.

[Kendall Landreth]

I want. I'm gonna meet horny, hot people in my kind of, like, sphere.

[Jordan Myrick]

You're looking for hot singles in your area.

[Kendall Landreth]

I'm looking for hot singles in my fucking area. And then we're gonna see if we have the chemistry to become more than hot singles in our area. But if I'm friends with them because we didn't have that.

[Fightmaster]

Exactly. When I meet someone, like, when I was looking to date, if I met someone I was at all attracted to, I would be trying to kiss him on the mouth immediately. There's no time for.

[Jordan Myrick]

And that's not a friend.

[Fightmaster]

That's not a friend.

[Jordan Myrick]

You can become friends after the fact, but that's not a friend.

[Kendall Landreth]

My. My current partner and I were never friends once. We made eye contact one single time, and we were like this. Huh? We were not. No, please. Our interests are different.

[Jordan Myrick]

Yep. Kendall DMed me on Instagram, and I said, would you like to move to Los Angeles and live with me forever? And now we're here.

[Kendall Landreth]

I love that shit.

[Jordan Myrick]

You can fall in love with a friend. Don't get me wrong. But if you're going into. With the intention of being like, I want to make friends, and then I want those friends to develop into relationships, I don't think you're gonna have good friendships, and I don't think you're gonna have good relationships. So it's like you're shooting yourself in both feet.

[Kendall Landreth]

It'll be too neutral.

[Jordan Myrick]

Yeah.

[Fightmaster]

And it's also very annoying because not. This question is not annoying, but just, I. I feel like it's only something that, like, queer people sometimes deal with on dating apps, where it's like, you're chatting with someone for a long time, and then they're like, also, like, I'm just kind of looking for friends. And I'm like, can you imagine people doing that? Straight people doing that? That would never happen.

[Jordan Myrick]

Yeah.

[Fightmaster]

So it kind of feels like this mixing of kind of, like, lesbians or gay people in general. We're all dating, but we're also kind of just friends.

[Kendall Landreth]

You know, it's honest about straight people. The most honest thing is that they're fully like, I would never. My girlfriend in the light of day if we weren't having sex. If we were not romantic partners, I would never look at her again. And you're like, 100%.

[Fightmaster]

The whole build up to the wedding is just different events to say goodbye to what your life used to Be.

[Kendall Landreth]

They are not. They are not fucking hanging out. They are not starting as friends.

[Jordan Myrick]

No. And I love straight couples like that. I think they are hilarious. And I'm like. And they were for you. Because you guys know that this is essentially a business transaction, right? Like, this is a societal business transaction.

[Kendall Landreth]

That's the hot part about it. Yeah.

[Jordan Myrick]

Yes. So it's like, you guys can share rent, and you guys can inevitably have a baby, which, like, you probably want to do. And then that's it. And then you're like, he's out golfing. I don't know. I don't know what he does. I don't like what he does.

[Kendall Landreth]

No. They say he's out golfing so I can finally have some time to myself. Whoa.

[Jordan Myrick]

But it's so. You're right. It's so honest.

[Fightmaster]

They build rooms in their homes. They build man caves. They say, please, we have to get a two stories so I can have a room where I don't have to look at you and your stupid decor from HomeGoods is not there.

[Kendall Landreth]

Yeah. Don't speak to me again, Sharon. I'm going down to my mole hole.

[Jordan Myrick]

Yes. But I think that's nice in a way, because I do feel like there's a lot of pressure, especially with, like, queer couples and lesbian couples, to be like, yeah, we come here. Come here. Spend four hours a day like this. She. When she gets mad, I. I quit my job. When she gets mad, I quit my job.

[Kendall Landreth]

So I can.

[Jordan Myrick]

And I'm like, what are you guys doing? Like, relax. Like, relax. You can still just, like, be normal. Like, you can be lesbians and be normal people. Sometimes, like, people will see that Kendall and I disagree, and they'll be like, wow, Kendall said that thing and you didn't support her and her idea. When my girlfriend says anything, I lick the bottoms of her dirty feet and apologize to her whether or not it has to do with me. And I'm like, yeah, that's fully unnecessary and weird. You're a weirdo. Treat your wife like a normal person. Do you know what I mean? Like, just treat, like, so many lesbians like, my wife is a goddess. I'm like, great. I guess mine is, too, in a way. But also, in a way, we're just two normal.

[Kendall Landreth]

I'm sorry, bro. You do not get to be a goddess. You're, like, talking about Mr. Bean.

[Jordan Myrick]

That's not goddess.

[Kendall Landreth]

You think Athena was over there being like Mr. Bean? Yeah.

[Fightmaster]

There's sometimes moments in your life, viewers, where you will realize you've surrounded yourself with the wrong people. And this is one of those moments.

[Jordan Myrick]

Yeah. I'm just like, there's nothing wrong with. Even if you were two women or two non binary people or whatever, you're still allowed to treat your partner like a normal person. No. And.

[Kendall Landreth]

And you know what? I'm borrowing straight culture. A lot of the time, my. My partner will be like, hey, I'm gonna hang out with, like, these and, like, name off some names. And I'm like, that sounds like it's all girls. It's like, do I have to do that? And she's like, no, but you are invited. I was like, well, thanks, but yeah, I don't want to hang out with a bunch of girls. And then when I am upset, I'll go birding. And she's never like, I want to go with you. She's fully like my old man and his birds.

[Jordan Myrick]

Yeah.

[Kendall Landreth]

And I like that. That she's like, I don't want to do that activity at all with you. And I'm like, that's nice, Horny.

[Jordan Myrick]

It shows that they respect you enough to let you do a thing that you love that they don't want to do too. Kendall has these lesbian movie nights with our friends that are, like, lower budget, like, fun. I'm not interested in that. I don't want to watch a lesbian romance movie. That's just not for me. I don't want to do that unless it's, like, really graphic and intense and, like, upsetting.

[Kendall Landreth]

You're talking about porn again.

[Fightmaster]

You want me to invite my friends over your only show if I watch porn with myself?

[Jordan Myrick]

You like to watch these, like, romance movies that are, like, very sweet and very, very hallmarky. That's just not my vibe. So I let her have those nights, and I'm so happy for her.

[Kendall Landreth]

Thank you. And you're out with your boys?

[Jordan Myrick]

Me and my boys, we go see a horror movie, and then we go to BJ's and we get a pizookie.

[Kendall Landreth]

Yeah, we go to BJ's and, you know, BJ's.

[Jordan Myrick]

Sorry. Yeah, sorry. We're. We're balls deep in a giant cookie together. Yeah, we just watched a movie where 3,000 people get murdered by a gun. That's what I want to do while my wife sits at home and watches two people, like, coyly flirt at a Christmas tree farm.

[Kendall Landreth]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Fightmaster]

It's not coy.

[Kendall Landreth]

Yeah, I. I'm. I'm with you. I want to be with my boys talking about which gal they saw at the gym that they didn't make eye contact with because they thought she was pretty and they wanted to be a gentleman. I want to be talking about that over a Miller Light.

[Fightmaster]

Yeah.

[Kendall Landreth]

Oh, wow. Yeah, I'm gonna be having that.

[Fightmaster]

It keeps us grounded. It keeps us. I think we're all. We're used to being, like, offended when someone's like, who's the boy? Who's the girl? And I'm like, if you don't know the answer, you have to pick or you're not in a healthy relationship.

[Kendall Landreth]

The best, like, stand up bit I've seen on this recently is like, when people ask who the bo. Who the girl is. I'm sorry. It's pretty obvious all the time. Take. Go ahead and take a look.

[Jordan Myrick]

Look at me. Look at her.

[Kendall Landreth]

Yeah. I got my little lady here. I'm going to go ahead and say she's not the man. Thanks for asking.

[Jordan Myrick]

Hey, I'll say this. One of us is driving. One of us is driving the car. One of us is driving the car. One of us is on her phone.

[Kendall Landreth]

God damn.

[Jordan Myrick]

And then there's.

[Kendall Landreth]

What is that about? How come the lady is always so. I. I don't want to get canceled, but, like, why is the lady one always so bad at driving?

[Jordan Myrick]

It really is. What. It's. You know what? I'll say this. And I don't want to get canceled for this. She's got a lot of thoughts in her head. She's thinking about a lot of stuff, and my one thought is protecting her. That is the thing. Oh, that's.

[Kendall Landreth]

That's the. That's the way that we'll get the least canceled for this. You're totally right.

[Jordan Myrick]

My.

[Kendall Landreth]

My gal is over there witnessing God in all small creation.

[Jordan Myrick]

Yes, absolutely.

[Kendall Landreth]

And I'm fully being like, you don't have to brake before you turn. In fact, you can't turn if you're breaking.

[Jordan Myrick]

And what this is is because she is filled with joy and you and I are filled with panic. And that's what gender is.

[Kendall Landreth]

Yes, bro, that is so true. There's the joyful one, and then there's the mischievous, angry one.

[Jordan Myrick]

Yep. And one of you gets things done. And one of you brings beauty to the world.

[Kendall Landreth]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Fightmaster]

That's so sweet.

[Jordan Myrick]

And you need both. There.

[Fightmaster]

There you do. And it's like, let yourself be attracted to those moments where they're doing something. So in their. In there, this is self in the box they put. But like, every time I wipe out down the counter, every time Jordan across room goes my little bar Keep. They love when I wiped on the counter. And I'm like, because. Because you like when I clean. You think it's hot.

[Jordan Myrick]

I think it's hot when she cleans. And I.

[Fightmaster]

My girl, I clean.

[Jordan Myrick]

I do a lot of cleaning. Let's be. Let's be clear about that. I do a lot of cleaning.

[Fightmaster]

You do a lot of boy cleaning.

[Jordan Myrick]

Kendall, she's. First of all, she's wearing no pants. So what? Sorry. Lock me up if I like that. Sorry. Lock me up.

[Kendall Landreth]

Lock. Lock me up. Sorry.

[Jordan Myrick]

Put me in jail if that's legal all of a sudden. Probably will be soon. She's walking around the house, no pants, little towel. She's waving it around. She's wiping things.

[Kendall Landreth]

Sorry.

[Jordan Myrick]

You would like it, too.

[Kendall Landreth]

Yeah, no, I completely understand. My. My gal makes coffee in the morning in her little, like, pajamas, and I'm over there being, like, anti women's rights.

[Jordan Myrick]

Yep.

[Kendall Landreth]

I suddenly don't believe that women deserve the right to vote. I'm fully like, this is the way that God wanted this to happen. Look at that little fucking creature, that woodland mouse trying to figure out how to get them the milk right. And blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, in her little, like, night dress. And I'm over here in boxers. Suddenly I have a rake in my hands. She's asking me to take out the trash again. I mean, it's.

[Jordan Myrick]

Your ass is unbelievably itchy for no reason. I don't know what it is. I don't know what it is.

[Kendall Landreth]

It's male.

[Jordan Myrick]

It's just something different. If you relate to any of this, let us know in the comments. If you don't, then just be quiet. Just don't comment. Just don't. Unless you want to be like, you guys look so good. Like, something like that. If you found this offensive, just don't comment.

[Kendall Landreth]

Yeah, yeah.

[Jordan Myrick]

Don't come like, go, Birdie. Use that. Use the Cornell Burning app. I've heard a lot of people read.

[Kendall Landreth]

Yeah. People really like that.

[Jordan Myrick]

Yeah. If you did not like that.

[Fightmaster]

I've never heard of that.

[Kendall Landreth]

That's awesome. I'll send it to you.

[Fightmaster]

That sounds awesome.

[Kendall Landreth]

Please.

[Jordan Myrick]

This is awesome. Well, here. Thank you so much for being here. This has been absolutely wonderful.

[Kendall Landreth]

I can't believe we ended this on me saying I'm anti suffrage.

[Jordan Myrick]

And that's gonna be the name of the ep. So tell your manager to watch out for that.

[Kendall Landreth]

I feel like I have to say I'm pro vote.

[Jordan Myrick]

Interesting. Not what we.

[Fightmaster]

We're not even gonna be allowed to vote in a couple more months.

[Jordan Myrick]

Like falling asleep, as you say it. Cause your body's shutting down. Is there anything you wanna plug?

[Kendall Landreth]

I'm going on tour in the spring. I'm gonna be support for Orla Gartland, who is an awesome artist. And I hope that I see you out there. But I'm also gonna be going on tour myself as the headliner in the fall. And so keep an eye out. We'll be putting out music all year year. It's gonna be a good year. Incredible.

[Jordan Myrick]

Amazing.

[Fightmaster]

Thank you so much for coming. This was an absolute treat.

[Kendall Landreth]

Thank you for having me. I hope we don't get canceled, but if we do, I feel like this is the good time.

[Fightmaster]

Yeah, I would say if you're like, you want to stick around, we're gonna be over on Patreon chatting it up. And if you are watching on Spotify or Apple podcasts or anywhere you get your podcast, make sure to rate and review. And if you are on YouTube, make sure to like, comment and subscribe.

[Jordan Myrick]

And.

[Fightmaster]

And I think that's it.

[Jordan Myrick]

Yeah, we're in the Spotify offices, as always, so thank you and that's all. Happy Monday.

[Kendall Landreth]

Bye.