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Phil Lester
I'm stressed because I was an hour late for something today.
Dan Howell
This is not your fault.
Phil Lester
No, it's not my fault. They said they were gonna move it forward, Right? So in my head, I thought moving something forward meant that it's an hour later.
Dan Howell
An extra hour. And what did you do at this time? Prepare extra hard for the meeting.
Phil Lester
I had a long, foamy shower. Without falling over.
Dan Howell
Phil sat on his bed in his towel, looking at TikTok.
Phil Lester
That's my meditation for a full hour. I don't need therapy. I just lie in a towel like a caterpillar in a cocoon.
Dan Howell
Yeah. No, they meant I'm gonna move it forward, which means an hour earlier.
Phil Lester
No, forward isn't early. That's going forward in time.
Dan Howell
Dan and Phil would like to say that is wrong. And we will fight anyone who thinks that 2v1 will double check. 2v1 in the car park.
Phil Lester
Whoa. What's going on in the car park?
Dan Howell
Time is a line.
Phil Lester
Yes.
Dan Howell
Shut up, physicists. I'm doing something.
Phil Lester
It is a line.
Dan Howell
We are helpless, Phil. We are free falling through it.
Phil Lester
Flopping.
Dan Howell
Exactly. So if we're moving it forward, it's.
Listener/Caller
Huh.
Dan Howell
Away. What you feel like we can't help what's going on. We're falling through space, trying our best. So if we're moving it forward, it's away from us. Whereas, Phil, there's some people out there that believe the world happens to them.
Phil Lester
Oh.
Dan Howell
So if they say forward, they're saying, bring time to me.
Phil Lester
So you either think you're the main character of the world or you need therapy.
Dan Howell
No offense. Three, two, one.
Phil Lester
Hey. It's another hard Monday. I'm Dan. Happy. Oh, my God. I said I'm Dan. I'm cut.
Dan Howell
That's a great start. That was a great start.
Phil Lester
He's Dan.
Dan Howell
You had one job.
Phil Lester
I'm Phil. We're both stripey.
Dan Howell
It's Monday and we're serving marks and Spencer's 2008 nautical campaign.
Phil Lester
I like this outfit. Why do you keep sassing our clothes?
Dan Howell
Give me a shanty right now. Phil, this is improv.
Phil Lester
We're stripy lads. We're on a boat. We're sailing towards time. What will happen next to this curly haired swine?
Dan Howell
Excuse you, I was gonna say something about a mime, but you he had went and called me a pig.
Phil Lester
And he's hot.
Dan Howell
You can't fucking save it now. You called me a pig. Maybe he's into that.
Phil Lester
I like a swine.
Dan Howell
Shout out to the swinees in the chat.
Phil Lester
Swiney.
Dan Howell
I'm not saying I've seen a lot of furry stuff. There's not a lot of pigs.
Phil Lester
No, I think it's because pigs aren't furry. They do say that most furries just look like a dog. They all look like a wolf. Even the sharks.
Dan Howell
I'm a tiger. I'm a shark. I'm a dragon. They're all just fucking foxes.
Phil Lester
They've still got foxes.
Dan Howell
God. Why are foxes the most fuckable animals?
Phil Lester
That's a question we should also ask your therapist.
Dan Howell
And this is a comedy podcast. Hi. It's a Monday.
Phil Lester
Only if it's anthropomorphic and the fox can talk. That's what you're saying?
Dan Howell
Yes. Obviously you don't need to say that.
Phil Lester
Maybe you did mix that. It's Monday and we have heard there are new emojis being released in 2027.
Dan Howell
Let's have a spring summer 2027 emoji leak.
Phil Lester
Let's have a think and have a look.
Dan Howell
Bam. Eclectic mix.
Phil Lester
We have a butterfly, a net symbol, a meteor. That's pretty good.
Dan Howell
And a cracked face. This is something about the times. A lighthouse warning for danger.
Phil Lester
And then a cock is a pickle.
Dan Howell
I would like to tell the audience listening on Spotify, there is a cucumber and it is upwards at a 45 degree angle. They know exactly what they're doing.
Phil Lester
They know what they're doing with that.
Dan Howell
Now they could have put that cucumber facing any direction. And they said, look at this knobbly gherkin.
Phil Lester
This erect gherkin.
Dan Howell
Get away from me.
Phil Lester
Are they gonna be using the eggplant and the gherkin to represent different kinds of peen? That's the question.
Dan Howell
Now, I really don't want you to, but I need you to explain right now the difference between those two things.
Phil Lester
One's chunkier. I think it's either a girthy one
Dan Howell
or a one with herpes. What is happening?
Phil Lester
Or a green one. One belonging to Shrek.
Dan Howell
We've also got slippery slope and sideways thumbs.
Phil Lester
What's for that? Whoa. That's like, look at me. Look at this guy.
Dan Howell
Look at me. I'm fucking cracking under the weight of the world.
Phil Lester
The cracked face could be. I'm severely under moisturized.
Dan Howell
It could be. Or it's like, this is what it's like listening to the Hard launch podcast at 6am on a Monday.
Phil Lester
That's what everybody is like listening to the face. Do people even use emojis that much anymore? Cause I always feel slightly embarrassing when I emoji.
Dan Howell
I Don't like emojis, but to certain people. Because as we know, I'm like a performative serial killer type person that likes to just be the person that they want me to be.
Phil Lester
Yeah.
Dan Howell
Sometimes I crack out the emoji that I think is necessary for them to like me.
Phil Lester
I just use them when I just can't be bothered to say anything.
Dan Howell
So I'm just like sunglasses emoji. Sunglasses means Phil thinks you're fucking horrible.
Phil Lester
No, it doesn't.
Dan Howell
It just means he thinks that you're stupid.
Phil Lester
It just means, like, there's not really much else to say. I'm just gonna do a little. React a little. Cute cowboy. Cowboy. Can't be that.
Dan Howell
If Phil hits you with the cowboy emoji, he doesn't give a fuck.
Phil Lester
I do give a fuck.
Dan Howell
You're not even worth a yup or a lol.
Phil Lester
Wow.
Dan Howell
And he's not saying anything because I just absolutely exposed and dragged him. What is sideways thumb for anyway?
Phil Lester
That's for when someone needs a sideways thumb in.
Dan Howell
Is that like a Mormon thing? You can't have sex before marriage, but you can do the old sideways thumb.
Phil Lester
Yeah. Or sideways double thumb if you're feeling.
Dan Howell
What, from both sides?
Phil Lester
Yeah. One in the ear for the listeners.
Dan Howell
I just gesticulate.
Phil Lester
One in the other ear.
Dan Howell
Oh, that's what the people will be doing. Listen to the Hard launch podcast at 6am on a Monday. Wow. Well, that's gonna be a big year. I'm so looking forward to getting my cracked face out.
Phil Lester
Same. I've been hearing a mysterious rustling around the house, and I was wondering if we've got a mouse back or not. Is that. And then I realized it was in my ear. So I don't know if, like, when we had our ears cleaned that they've damaged my eardrum.
Dan Howell
What?
Phil Lester
That's what I'm hearing.
Dan Howell
The voices.
Listener/Caller
No.
Phil Lester
I saw that our garden's got loads of crickets in it. And there was a cricket in our house. And I was hearing the cricket and it's just really loud.
Dan Howell
And it gaslit you into thinking that there was something in your own ear.
Phil Lester
Yes.
Dan Howell
Phil is that easy to break psychologically? You would not last in the Big Brother house. You would not last in Squid Game Traitors.
Phil Lester
No.
Dan Howell
Someone would just play a honk sound and you'd be like, it's the Ghost of Christmas Past.
Phil Lester
It's not. It's a little Ghost of Christmas cricket.
Dan Howell
Well, that's what you get for opening a window. That's why I don't do that. Don't let the bugs in. Don't let the fresh air in.
Phil Lester
No.
Dan Howell
Stay safe.
Phil Lester
Something we noticed this week is Dan keeps inserting me into memories when I was. I was not there. This is actually true, which keeps happening. He's telling a story. He was saying, hey, remember we went to Edinburgh with Carrie Fletcher, and we did this whole campaign for Brave, and we got to toss cabers? I was like, no, I was not there.
Dan Howell
I was not fucking there for any of you. You have just inserted me in your mind into this trip to Scotland. I literally just was. But you were there, right? No, no.
Phil Lester
Was I wearing a kilt in your mind? What was I doing? Did I have a good time? Was I good at firing the arrows?
Dan Howell
What the fuck was Phil doing with a log in Edinburgh in my mind?
Phil Lester
Did I eat haggis?
Dan Howell
The more you ask, the less it makes sense.
Phil Lester
Did I chop that wood?
Dan Howell
The other one is, I keep saying, oh, Phil, you remember the first time I cracked out Sister Daniel?
Phil Lester
No, I was not there when you.
Dan Howell
Phil wasn't there. I was on my own tour when
Phil Lester
you were cracking as Sister Daniel.
Dan Howell
It just makes sure there was a lot of crack. The people of Nashville, yeah, that was cracking.
Phil Lester
But what was I in that universe? Was I dressed up?
Dan Howell
Well, this is what I'm asking. Phil was like, and what did I do with Sister Daniel on that night? Okay, well, we're not going there.
Phil Lester
Was I wearing a Father Philip outfit?
Dan Howell
Who am I without you? I don't know, Phil. In my mind, you're always just there.
Phil Lester
Do you know, that's nice that you just insert me into those memories, but that also means I don't really have to go anywhere with you because you're gonna remember I was there anyway.
Dan Howell
Oh, my God. So if you're ever like, I just can't be fucking bothered to go to this event, you'll be like, I actually don't need to, because in three weeks, you'll tell everybody that I was there.
Phil Lester
Exactly.
Dan Howell
And I know you so well, I can just write you as a character without you actually having to live.
Phil Lester
So I can just sit at home and play Mina the Hollower while you go out into the wilderness and do stuff?
Dan Howell
Are you even real?
Phil Lester
Touch me. Try it. Oh.
Dan Howell
Oh, fuck.
Listener/Caller
Okay.
Phil Lester
Try it.
Dan Howell
It's Jova.
Phil Lester
It was in his mind. What do you act like when I'm not there? That's what I want to know. Cause I don't know, like, do you pretend to be slightly different? Cause sometimes Dan does. A performative personality. That's not Himself. You know what I mean?
Dan Howell
Who do I yearn to be without Phil in the room?
Phil Lester
Sometimes you say you don't feel like you have a personality, so I kind of want to observe that. Without me to bounce off of what
Dan Howell
is my evil agenda when Phil isn't in the room?
Phil Lester
Can you not just be a normal
Dan Howell
person dressing up as a slutty nun, throwing ass at anyone who's willing to look sideways?
Phil Lester
I'm finally free.
Dan Howell
Clearly, that's it. I mean, what were we gonna say?
Phil Lester
Yeah.
Dan Howell
Or maybe it's like, oh, my God. Dan observed alone in a room without Phil, and I'm just sat there talking to an empty chair.
Phil Lester
That could be it. What I think is, is that fun
Dan Howell
and sweet, or is it really sad and a bit scary?
Phil Lester
It's a bit sad. I think you do rely on me to make conversation with people, so you'll be forced to chat more if I'm not there.
Dan Howell
But are we in a toxic, codependent relationship and you're actually a crutch? And it's more that when you're not there, I'm forced to step up and be normal because my anxiety about not performatively being normal outweighs the amount that I don't want to talk to someone. Whereas when you are there, I'm like, I don't want to talk to any of these people at this dinner. I'm just going to sit here and
Phil Lester
let me do the conversation.
Dan Howell
And because Phil's there and because you feel so much more awkward about not being normal, you are going to carry that conversation.
Phil Lester
I carry it on.
Dan Howell
You are going to crack jokes. You are going to look people in the eye. You are going to ask them about their day. And that. But buys me time to just go,
Phil Lester
just sit in silence.
Dan Howell
Prime life. Prime life.
Phil Lester
I am a great person to have around. That's what I realized.
Dan Howell
Phil's.
Phil Lester
I'm like the glue of.
Dan Howell
It's the biggest character flaw is he is so concerned with everybody else having a good time that he will absolutely make sure that everyone has what they need.
Phil Lester
Yeah.
Dan Howell
Attention, snacks, drinks. That is you.
Phil Lester
Strokes.
Dan Howell
Haven't been to one of those parties. What do you do when I'm not there?
Phil Lester
When you're not there, I am exactly the same. Because I don't think so hard about stuff like you. I'm just living in the moment.
Dan Howell
But here's the thing. When we're together, you're like, I can't answer the doorbell.
Listener/Caller
Dan.
Dan Howell
You do it, and it's like, you can.
Phil Lester
No. When you're not there.
Dan Howell
He's like, I can't look at my hair. I'm like, the FedEx guy doesn't give a fuck about your fringe today.
Phil Lester
He does.
Dan Howell
Phil goes 10 toes down every time, and he's like, I am not answering the door.
Phil Lester
Only if I.
Dan Howell
You can do. I'll do something else.
Phil Lester
I just trade it if I look bad, because I look like a mess 80% of the time. I was in Gremlin's pajamas this morning and no top. And you were like, anthony, I'm not getting my nipples out of dhl.
Dan Howell
It would have taken you three seconds to put a T shirt on.
Phil Lester
Yeah, but you could have just gone
Dan Howell
anywhere, still sat on the bed. And he's like, I can't get dressed in time. You've got to do it. You've got to do it right. Well, we make each other worse.
Phil Lester
When you're not there, I just don't answer the door. I just hide.
Dan Howell
That's not true. You just want me to believe that. So this is the truth, guys. We encourage each other to grow, challenge each other. We achieve amazing things like male podcasts and going on world tours, but we also enable each other to just do the freakiest, pettiest little things that we should just get over.
Phil Lester
Something I have realized that I do recently is if someone's talking about something, I don't know what it is. Half the time, I'll just agree so I don't look stupid. And that's happened recently a lot since the Odyssey came out.
Dan Howell
We were having a conversation with someone and they were like, but this is an example of the hubris of the ancient Greeks.
Phil Lester
And I was like, yeah, he had loads of hubris. That's not what it means.
Dan Howell
I don't know what it means on a Monday morning. I have, like, massive hubris.
Phil Lester
I'm gonna be real. I don't know what hubris is, and I'm too scared to ask.
Dan Howell
It's just when you've got a big head, so you're like, yeah, I can do that.
Phil Lester
So I've got a lot.
Dan Howell
The hubris of Dan and Phil thinking that they can revolutionize the genre of male podcast.
Phil Lester
I have a hubris of 10 in
Dan Howell
regards to your attitude going into this podcast.
Phil Lester
My confidence of myself is hubris 10.
Dan Howell
Yeah. And daring to do something that maybe you're a bit too big for your boots to do.
Phil Lester
Yeah. But you pretend not to know things, so then you're likable because you know everything. You've got a brain the size of What?
Dan Howell
This just sounds rude.
Phil Lester
Sorry.
Dan Howell
How big is my head?
Phil Lester
You're big. Your head?
Dan Howell
Face crack emoji. I do something which Phil gets really annoyed by, which is when we're emailing people in business, I always go, so, stupid question. But this. And Phil's like, stop saying stupid question. It's not a stupid question. It's a perfectly reasonable question.
Phil Lester
It's like you're dumbing yourself down or you're too scared to ask a question.
Dan Howell
I feel like I need people to permanently underestimate me.
Phil Lester
What?
Dan Howell
What? Because I just feel like if people think you're too competent, they see you as a threat.
Phil Lester
Right?
Dan Howell
So I'm just trying to constantly look like a silly billy.
Phil Lester
Therapy.
Dan Howell
So I'm like, silly question. It's just this. And I'm like, I know all.
Phil Lester
I'm just like, don't silly the question. Because the question is always valid. Be a strong, confident Daniel.
Dan Howell
Go, boss.
Phil Lester
Gatekeep Dan will respect your lifestyle.
Dan Howell
Whip the D on the table. Yeah, Dan is here to do business.
Phil Lester
But first, we just came home and had a haircut.
Dan Howell
Hi. Aw, the dullet is there.
Phil Lester
Ooh, look, it's there.
Dan Howell
You know? Yeah.
Phil Lester
And do you know what this haircut inspired me to talk about? The sponsor of today's podcast, Shopify, Naturally. Wait, where's my noise?
Listener/Caller
There we go.
Phil Lester
There we go.
Dan Howell
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Phil Lester
You could sell cacti. Ours is growing so much now.
Dan Howell
Don't hold it between. Oh, my God. Not like that.
Phil Lester
Sorry.
Dan Howell
I'm sorry, your majesty.
Phil Lester
We run down in Phil Shop, and Shopify have helped us run it from
Dan Howell
the start, us two silly billies to
Phil Lester
get it done since we were babies.
Dan Howell
Sure. We might, for instance, be worried about customers being disorganized like Phil, but that's not a concern, thanks to the checkout.
Phil Lester
It makes it so easy. It remembers everyone's info so they can just go click, click, click and check out without having to go find all their stuff.
Dan Howell
Bother somebody to say, what's my long card number?
Phil Lester
I don't know.
Dan Howell
And it's super easy to set up as well, which means that we can spend more time plotting devious and strange items to sell. We are not gonna go into dip and pips scissors.
Phil Lester
No, but there's loads of templates to choose from, and it's so easy just to go boop, boop, boop. And you got your own Shop and
Dan Howell
it makes us feel official, like, you know, Gymshark. Use Shopify. And so did Dan and Phil.
Phil Lester
Oh, yeah, with Shopify, nothing stands between your idea and a real business. So go make it one.
Dan Howell
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Phil Lester
Thanks. Yeah. Well, here's something I do know.
Dan Howell
The definition of hubris. Now that I've explained it, the thing.
Phil Lester
Bye. Bye. Blackcurrants.
Dan Howell
Yep.
Phil Lester
Challenging British weather is endangering stock levels of Ribena.
Dan Howell
No, no, no.
Phil Lester
Although it tastes bad now, the sweetener in it, so I don't care that much.
Dan Howell
Yes. Phil imports his Ribena.
Phil Lester
You've got to. I need the full sugar.
Dan Howell
If you subscribe to the Danifil Patreon, you're making it so that Phil can buy 4 pound bottles of Ribena that have full sugar.
Phil Lester
Yeah. Harriet Presser, the agronomist.
Dan Howell
Agronomist, Agriculture. Oh, agronomist.
Phil Lester
Agronomist.
Dan Howell
It's like when you're really big headed and you believe that you can tame the earth and plant blackcurrants. In spite of the encroaching climate disaster,
Phil Lester
Agronomist and my hubris is affected. The agronomist for Ribena said, in the last year there's been heavy rain and hail and we've had three major heat waves.
Dan Howell
This is an apocalypse in Britain. You don't understand. We've had hail and it's been warm,
Phil Lester
leading to a low yell.
Dan Howell
Finally cares about climate change.
Phil Lester
Come for my sweet drinks. I'm coming for you.
Dan Howell
It was too close, wasn't it? It was giving pickle emoji. She gotta look after those blackcurrant stocks.
Phil Lester
Yeah. We need to fix the environment so
Dan Howell
that you can have a sustainable supply of Ribena.
Phil Lester
Yeah. Metaphorphic.
Dan Howell
One more time. Here we go. Yep.
Phil Lester
Metaphoric memories.
Dan Howell
Nope.
Phil Lester
Metamorphic.
Dan Howell
One more time for luck.
Phil Lester
Did you read the metamorphic?
Dan Howell
Oh, my God. Phil turned into a caterpillar.
Phil Lester
And girl, a 10 year old Japanese boy, has discovered that butterflies can remember their time as caterpillars.
Dan Howell
Yes, he raised butterflies. And then he says that they always remember him when he releases them into nature. So he's like, come to me, have this leaf. And then they go into their pods. He says, be free. And then they flutter around like, hello. And then he does the meme. Wow, is this a memory?
Phil Lester
What? He says it's crazy to me that they turn into a full liquid mush.
Dan Howell
They don't. It's just fake News. The thing that people always say, they don't really turn into a mush. Oh, there is some mushiness, but they don't literally turn into a gel.
Phil Lester
I'm sorry, did you put a camera in there? How do we know this science is a thing.
Dan Howell
And. Well, this is the question, Phil. How does this 10 year old Japanese boy know that butterflies have memories? Huh? Oh, well, people thought it was cute. They just saw the viral tweet and then you zoom in on the board behind him. Well, he did it by releasing a lavender scent and then electrocuting the caterpillars when they sniffed it so that they would associate it with pain and hate. Lavender. And what you realize is three generations of butterflies after metamorphosizing, would also avoid lavender because they know that it means danger.
Phil Lester
That's stressful. I was really enjoying that story. Could you not tell me the ending?
Dan Howell
Next time butterflies remember their caretaker. To be fair, I think it was like a very low voltage thing that was also attached to his arm. So they might have just like felt a vibration. But yeah, this was science. Yes, knowledge. But at what cost?
Phil Lester
Wow.
Dan Howell
Your grandchildren children will remember to fear lavender. Maybe I need to start Pavlovian ly training you to close the cupboards. Yeah, cattle prod.
Phil Lester
Maybe your great granddad avoided color and that's why you are the way you are rude.
Dan Howell
Okay.
Phil Lester
Do you ever feel like a plastic bottle? Katy Perry's latest zany stunt.
Dan Howell
She's so crazy.
Phil Lester
She flopped hard, she crowd surfed in a plastic bottle. And the audience wouldn't send her back to the stage. I've already seen this. It's very funny.
Dan Howell
No, this is funny. It's also terrifying. Yeah, like imagine being like, yeah, crowds up now send me back. And then they just democratically decide, no, no, we're gonna keep taking you back. I think that she just got lucky. She kept like rolling in a zorb, like sense forward and then collectively, the further the people that were dedicated enough to get to the close of a Katy Perry crowd were they thought, okay, maybe we want to hear Dark Horse. Let's get her back on stage.
Listener/Caller
What?
Phil Lester
Shall we climb inside for the hard launch tour and get rolled across the audience?
Dan Howell
You think these people can lift up us and absorb?
Phil Lester
Probably not. No.
Dan Howell
Fucking roast them.
Phil Lester
Yeah.
Dan Howell
That's so r. We know there's at least three people on the protein right now.
Phil Lester
A giant golden pig.
Dan Howell
We are the money in the piggy bank.
Phil Lester
We'll roll around.
Dan Howell
There we go.
Phil Lester
We're gonna replace our lawn because in London you Can't really have grass because it gets torched by the sun.
Dan Howell
The people that built the house were like. People like lawns, right? For playing football with their children, for their dogs to piss.
Phil Lester
We don't have a dog. We don't have a child.
Dan Howell
It's just Phil that's pissing and he doesn't need a lawn.
Phil Lester
So we want to turn the lawn into somewhere you can just, like, sit and chat instead of piss. With loads of nice flowers for the bees.
Dan Howell
Yeah.
Phil Lester
Why are you. No piss.
Dan Howell
We've got a verbena. Do you know what that is? It's like Ribena but a plant. What's up with Beaner being purple?
Phil Lester
Beena?
Dan Howell
Yeah. I hardly knew her.
Phil Lester
I don't know what it means.
Dan Howell
Anyway, there's a plant. It's purple, it's nice. We didn't plant it.
Phil Lester
Yeah.
Dan Howell
And it's taken over our garden. A bird shit it.
Phil Lester
It did. We didn't plant it. It's just come from nowhere.
Dan Howell
So shout out to the bird that shit this seed in our garden. Life has found a way because it's beautiful. And there is 57 billion bees and butterflies.
Phil Lester
It's beautiful. But we do have a space where we could put something. And we were wondering, could we have a hot tub? But then I said, the question. Is having a hot tub inherently a little bit swingery?
Dan Howell
We've had that chat. I was like, phil, look, we've just got this area because you don't need much space for a hot tub.
Phil Lester
No, it's just like.
Dan Howell
What did Anthony Padilla say? It's like, you know, just two bros. Just two bros wide. It's fine.
Phil Lester
Five feet apart.
Dan Howell
Exactly. You don't need much space. But it feels like we're fun guys, right? We don't have kids or a dog to piss. You can piss in your own hot tub if you want to buy one.
Phil Lester
Picture this.
Dan Howell
I'm picturing it.
Phil Lester
We've got two friends at our house.
Dan Howell
Oh, who are they?
Phil Lester
Maybe they're handsome gays.
Dan Howell
And we're like, philza's doing fan fiction now. He's about to self insert the emoji.
Phil Lester
No, I'm just like, we've had some wine. Why don't we all get in the hot tub together? Is that inherently. Is it like.
Dan Howell
I know. It's like an activity in a perfectly innocent scenario. You just said all of those things and you're saying, we've got a hot tub. Is that now a thing that we can do?
Phil Lester
Yeah.
Dan Howell
Or is it like this whole thing was insidiously leading up the fuck path.
Phil Lester
Even if it was just like a straight couple. Even if I was like, hey, so should we hit the hot tub?
Dan Howell
We saw you across the garden and we liked your vibe. You want to get in the hot tub?
Phil Lester
It has an energy to it. I feel. I don't know if I'm being weird, so it's a question mark.
Dan Howell
And which way are you leaning? Feels like I want the bubbles, but I don't want the reputation.
Phil Lester
I like the idea of being warm in bubbles at all times.
Dan Howell
I don't like the idea of your.
Listener/Caller
Or.
Dan Howell
How do I say this inoffensively?
Phil Lester
Bodily fluids.
Dan Howell
No, but. Okay. Is that a thing that I need to be concerned about? I was gonna say, like, you're gonna really monitor the safety of the water.
Phil Lester
Oh, yeah.
Dan Howell
Yeah.
Phil Lester
I don't want people to be out
Dan Howell
there like a dad with the test strips being like, oh, my God, what if someone gets in my pool and there's 1% too much chlorine?
Phil Lester
Yeah. We had one of those on holiday once and I was like, really? Like, is this safe to go in or are we gonna die?
Dan Howell
Yeah, because feels like all of our skin's gonna instantly melt off. Or if there's not enough, you're gonna instantly, instantly get a prion.
Phil Lester
Don't get in a hot tub with your contact lenses in. Cause a parasite can go in your eye. I had that on TikTok.
Dan Howell
Okay.
Phil Lester
Yeah.
Dan Howell
Only get in a hot tub if it smells so strongly of chlorine that your skin starts to bubble before you get into it.
Phil Lester
What do you think? Like I've said all my thoughts.
Dan Howell
I think the answer is yes. It will make us look like insidious fuck planners.
Phil Lester
15% swing lords, 51% swing lords. Ooh.
Dan Howell
But at the same time, do we know these two people that you're going to invite over?
Phil Lester
No, I'm just. I'm imagining.
Dan Howell
You just want to enjoy bubbles.
Phil Lester
I'm imagining. Imagining a scenario. We don't actually have many friends, so I think mostly it's just gonna be me and you bubbling.
Dan Howell
Yeah.
Phil Lester
So we shouldn't think about other people. And if we do, we just say, we're not swingers. But do you wanna hop in and have some bubbles?
Dan Howell
Yeah. You could be wearing anything. We won't be able to see.
Phil Lester
Maybe you just don't say hot tub. Maybe you just go, what about some bubble time? No, that's worse.
Dan Howell
That's much worse. Yeah. Yeah. That makes it sound like a bath.
Phil Lester
How about we all get wet wet together?
Dan Howell
No, Phil.
Phil Lester
Okay. Let's move on. Move on.
Dan Howell
Do you want your eyes to sting? Let's. Let's soak.
Phil Lester
No.
Dan Howell
That's what the Mormon team says.
Phil Lester
We're not getting one.
Dan Howell
Phil's family came to visit to say goodbye before we go on tour forever. They did.
Phil Lester
It was nice. It was my mum's birthday. Did a barbecue, and they were like,
Dan Howell
phil on the grill.
Phil Lester
Philly on the grill again. I was nervous I was gonna explode everyone, because gas is scary.
Dan Howell
Can I do a barbecue or will I? Fire of London 2.
Phil Lester
There was a Fire of London one 1, famously.
Dan Howell
And Phil's like, what if the barbecue just fucking explod? Phil got a watering can and he watered the hedge behind the barbecue in case it was too dry and it sat on fire.
Phil Lester
Fire of London 2. I don't want to be responsible. Okay.
Dan Howell
That would actually be the thing on our Wikipedia's pages, wouldn't it? Yeah.
Phil Lester
And my parents were like, we're coming to your house for five days. We don't want to do anything. We don't even want to go to a restaurant. We just want to see you.
Dan Howell
We know you're busy. Don't plan anything. We're just gonna be chill.
Phil Lester
Yeah. And then the first day they were here, they said, can we go to the Shard?
Dan Howell
What are we doing? What's the plan? Where are we going?
Phil Lester
Out.
Dan Howell
Then the Shard. Out of nowhere. It's a Saturday. What do you mean? Hello.
Phil Lester
It's quite hard to get a booking at the Shard.
Dan Howell
Turns out, not if you have dinner at 4:00'. Clock.
Phil Lester
Yeah. So we had a 4:00 dinner at the Shard, which was quite fancy, actually.
Dan Howell
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Branding it as an upmarket experience for anniversaries and such. Did you like that vibe or was it a bit stuffy?
Phil Lester
They gave us free champagne. I'd had no lunch, so I was lit. I feel like you get more lit around your parents as well. Cause it's like a psychological thing that makes you think, oh, I shouldn't be drinking around them. And suddenly you're like, whoa, whoa, Who?
Dan Howell
What's happening? Well, yeah, you were like, I don't usually eat till, like, 10 because I'm a nocturnal freak. So when someone said, here's a cocktail and here's a bottle of wine and here's a free champagne for your birthday. Phil was. He was. Guys, he was being rowdy up in the Shard of.
Phil Lester
You end up saying things like, I'm sorry that I was born. Cause it must have been painful to push Me out. You know what I mean?
Dan Howell
I mean, you're long.
Phil Lester
Got big bones.
Dan Howell
Six foot two. When he came out.
Phil Lester
Yeah.
Dan Howell
I was hither to thither.
Phil Lester
Haven't grown. It also made me realize I don't love mega fancy food where you just get little balls of gel and dots. I like medium fancy, where you get a big thing.
Dan Howell
You want to eat a plate of
Phil Lester
food with a firework you don't have.
Dan Howell
Okay, yes. Is it about just not having the patience to enjoy multiple small things, though?
Phil Lester
I don't know. I don't want truffle. I don't want foam. I don't want steam. I just want a big pot of food.
Dan Howell
I don't want my food to be messed with. I want something proper and I want to tuck in.
Phil Lester
Yeah, it's.
Dan Howell
It's a weird building, though, the Shard.
Phil Lester
It is. Did you know there's like 40 apartments in there that have never been filled in? Yeah, just like empty floors of nothing.
Dan Howell
They built all these luxury apartments that cost, like, millions of pounds. And it's like people that have that much money, they don't want to live south of the river.
Phil Lester
Oh, my gosh. Okay.
Dan Howell
London Bridge. Oh, no, I want to live in Chelsea.
Phil Lester
Could they not put something in there? A ball pit?
Dan Howell
Yeah. They need to attract the clientele to shift these apartments by installing ball pits.
Phil Lester
Imagine if there was a whole floor that was just a ball pit. I'd go visit that.
Dan Howell
That sounds like some Google.
Phil Lester
Yeah.
Dan Howell
Do you remember when we visited YouTube and they were like, here's a meeting room and the floor and all the walls are cushions?
Phil Lester
Yeah, that was weird. Oh, there was one that was completely full of grass.
Dan Howell
And we want to say thank you to YouTube for your support throughout the years. You and your quirky office.
Phil Lester
I want to get invited to the landscaper. That's where they're going to be next. It's a skyscraper on its side, so
Dan Howell
they called it a landscaper. There's trees on the roof.
Phil Lester
Do you know what's on the roof, though? What? A running track.
Dan Howell
Oh, my God.
Phil Lester
It could have been a bowling alley.
Dan Howell
Would you rather have the 2010s performatively cringe quirky office with cushioned wall meeting rooms or the spooky packed with protein probiotic running truck, roof, office?
Phil Lester
It's the protein scraper.
Dan Howell
Oh, no, it's the probiotic scraper. That's what they call the hot tub.
Phil Lester
Richard.
Listener/Caller
Whee.
Dan Howell
And no, I don't want to explore the probiotically scraping hot tub. It is you.
Phil Lester
This week no, it's not.
Dan Howell
I don't give a fuck.
Phil Lester
No, no, it was me last week. No, no. Okay, fine. I was seeing how many weeks I could go for.
Dan Howell
You know that I watch the podcast. Thank you, lass, we appreciate it.
Phil Lester
I've got a single blue ball.
Dan Howell
Uh oh.
Phil Lester
Oh no, it's one from the audience.
Dan Howell
I mean, thank you. We love the people that submitted the topics in our random topic generator.
Phil Lester
Here we go. It's an anti topic change. What? Continue about whatever you were trying to move on from. No.
Dan Howell
Oh my God, stop it. Getting douched by a hot tub. I think that's the last thing that I said, right?
Phil Lester
Yeah. This is from Hunter. Fuck. How do we continue that?
Dan Howell
Oh my God. You go to a public swimming pool and there's a big hot tub. I just assume that someone pissed in it. Well, I mean, there's too much anonymity.
Phil Lester
They are pissing in it. I know, that's the thing. They say 50% of people just piss in the pool.
Dan Howell
Who is they and do they film science? Science says we need the 10 year old Japanese boy to prove that 50% of people piss in hot tubs.
Phil Lester
I'm gonna say this. Oh, we've got. The fan's got some science and findings. Yeah. Large pools that are 220,000 gallons contain about 20 gallons of urine. No, 20 gallons of piss. So octops and jacuzzi show much higher urine concentrations, sometimes over 300 times higher than regular pools due to the small water. Stop it everyone. I'm gonna say it now.
Dan Howell
Say it.
Phil Lester
I've never pissed in a swimming pool. I've always gone out to piss.
Dan Howell
I don't know what I did when I was 5.
Phil Lester
I don't know beyond 5. Like beyond 6, beyond 6, beyond 10. When you have memories.
Dan Howell
Beyond 15.
Phil Lester
Have you pissed in a pool?
Dan Howell
I mean, I can't actually remember a time, but if like God was like, I'm gonna shoot you, I'd be like, maybe when I was 14, I was just. I fucking panicked or something. I don't know.
Phil Lester
Okay. The sea is fair game. The sea is everybody's piss. Yeah, yeah.
Dan Howell
I mean, water cycle, baby. That's how it works.
Phil Lester
It's also big enough and salty, so it's fine. Sperm whale, but I'll swim away. I wouldn't like piss next to Sharon. I'd like swim.
Dan Howell
You would lock eyes with Sharon on the beach.
Phil Lester
I always go, I'm just gonna like swim out of it.
Dan Howell
Phil, we're all playing paddle. Why are you just six feet over there, Phil? Why Are you over there?
Listener/Caller
Come back.
Dan Howell
We're having a chat.
Phil Lester
I'm just gonna see if I can see a dolphin.
Dan Howell
Give me 20 seconds.
Phil Lester
Okay.
Dan Howell
Phil, you're back.
Listener/Caller
Yeah.
Dan Howell
Just needed a moment.
Phil Lester
Yeah, I'm just looking for a manta ray.
Dan Howell
Oh, God.
Phil Lester
The current is swept away.
Dan Howell
Riptide.
Phil Lester
Don't get me started on riptide.
Dan Howell
Ripped into the piss.
Phil Lester
Yeah, that's it. We did it. That was Hunter. Hunter, we did it.
Dan Howell
Hunter. That was fucked up. Almost. Richard. 40x. We've lost that ball forever.
Phil Lester
That's gone under the sofa. We're never getting that back. Should we get some people to crawl into our ears with their mouths?
Dan Howell
Let's get a couple of people in this hot tub. We've cracked open the wine and we're ready for more.
Phil Lester
All right, switch on the bubbles. Who we got first?
Listener/Caller
Hi, my name is Ella, and you guys don't need to know where I'm from anyway. It's absolutely disgusting watching passengers walk barefoot on the plane. Don't even get me started on them walking into the lavatory with their grippers out. Guys, the floor of the lavatory is wet, and it's not. Not water.
Phil Lester
No. This has got a common theme, this podcast.
Dan Howell
I am so sorry we've lost the challenge so hard this week.
Phil Lester
Barefoot in the airplane toilet is a bit grim.
Dan Howell
That's fucking terrifying. And you know that anyone that is literally stomping their grippers around on a plane are gonna be the people that poke them between the seats as well.
Phil Lester
Yes. They'll be the same.
Dan Howell
Let me put my elbow down. Toes. Yeah.
Phil Lester
Toes are out. Yeah.
Dan Howell
I think it should be fine to just like, give them a parachute backpack.
Phil Lester
Yes.
Dan Howell
But eject.
Phil Lester
I don't even recline my seat. I'm very respectful at all times.
Dan Howell
I'm gonna say it from this episode. I think something we can all agree is, Phil, I think you actually need to just be less nice.
Phil Lester
Well, I just worry about other people too much, actually.
Dan Howell
Too much.
Phil Lester
What about the rules?
Dan Howell
You need to recline your seat. You need to let Dan speak in restaurants sometimes.
Phil Lester
Okay.
Dan Howell
Yeah.
Phil Lester
I'm just gonna be an asshole from now on.
Dan Howell
Do it. Come on. Just be selfish. What do you want right now? Assert yourself.
Phil Lester
I don't know, you Muppet. You do what you like, right?
Dan Howell
The point of that was for you to assert your needs. It wasn't just to, like, randomly insult me, dickhead.
Listener/Caller
Okay.
Phil Lester
I can't do it.
Dan Howell
I like you.
Phil Lester
Really? I like you. Really? Next one. Hey, Dan and Phil. Hi. It's Johnny and I'M hard launching that. I hate printers. Death to all printers. Yes, I'm serious. Like, they need to go, Johnny, you have just sent this in the right time.
Dan Howell
You have no idea what you've awakened in, Phil.
Phil Lester
I kicked the printer, literally.
Dan Howell
You physically kicked the printer.
Phil Lester
I was trying to print something out for my mum's birthday. It was a super sentimental thing. We bought this printer three months ago. It's one of those that you can see the ink in it.
Dan Howell
We had an old printer that never worked. It would just be like, oh, I'm out of cyan, sorry, your things came out pink and shit. And we went, you know what? HP Inkjet. Fuck you. Yeah, we're gonna get an Epson, whatever the fuck. So we bought this brand new printer and it literally has a clear window where you can see the ink. And it said on the thing, well, you'll see when you need more ink, so there's no more surprises. Printed three things and it just came out and it was like fucking lines.
Phil Lester
I hate it. Great. I'm never printing anything again. I'm gonna paint everything from now on or I'm just not doing it.
Dan Howell
Handwritten notes, Sorry.
Phil Lester
God.
Dan Howell
Someone says, give me a scan of your passport. Like fuck. I'll describe it to you.
Phil Lester
I'm just gonna draw it exactly.
Dan Howell
Watercolour oil painting.
Phil Lester
This is all because I went to that rage room and smashed up a printer. And now the printer gods are like,
Dan Howell
yeah, big printer are coming for you.
Phil Lester
They're coming for me.
Dan Howell
They know what you did.
Phil Lester
Now they're coming for me even harder. I'm gonna get killed by a printer falling from this guy.
Dan Howell
Phil's not here in a week. We know who did it next.
Listener/Caller
Hi, Dan and Phil. Hi, my name is Erin from Newcastle and I would like to hard launch that it should be normalized to sleep with your co workers. There is just something about working with someone that just makes them so much more appealing. And I just think it brings a bit of fun to the workplace, gives us a reason to go to work. And I don't think it should be looked upon negatively.
Phil Lester
Well, you just made things very awkward in the facement. Wow.
Dan Howell
It's when you're sat and you're thinking, God, I see this person every day. Yeah. People say that you just shouldn't do that and it would really fuck everything up. I mean that's really. When you tell someone, this is a bad idea, you shouldn't do it. Well, then they're go home and they're going to be like, well, I'm going to fucking do it now, aren't I?
Phil Lester
Yeah.
Dan Howell
And by it, I mean Janice.
Phil Lester
That's why you get together and then start a business together.
Dan Howell
Yeah, exactly.
Phil Lester
That's how it works.
Dan Howell
And then buy a property, but without being married. Yeah, yeah.
Phil Lester
Love that.
Dan Howell
You're covering all the bases. Maximum risk, maximum thrill potential. Piss in the hot tub.
Phil Lester
I would say life is short, so
Dan Howell
fuck the people that you're sat next to and worry about it tomorrow, when your whole life comes crumbling down, there's probably a wise way to do it. But I agree with the sentiment.
Phil Lester
Yeah, it's sexy, it's mysterious. What's gonna happen next? Your career.
Dan Howell
And plus, potentially, have you found me? Have I found what?
Phil Lester
Have you found me more attractive to you since we've had a regular work schedule together? Look at me, I'm in my stripes. I'm all businesslike.
Dan Howell
Totally. Yeah. There's something about you on this podcast, talking about piss for 35 minutes, that really gets me yearning for the good old days.
Phil Lester
Oh, yeah. Thanks for joining us. This was very pissy. I'm sorry.
Dan Howell
It might have actually been a record.
Phil Lester
It was, yeah. And vote for us in the Podcast Award.
Dan Howell
Nah, it's okay. Look, guys, we know it's limited to UK listeners.
Phil Lester
Do you know, it's such a.
Dan Howell
Like, they might be scared.
Phil Lester
It's so hard to vote if you're in the uk. You have to click through the Spotify link and then there's a tiny button on that playlist that will say, vote now. And then you press it and you scroll. Thank you.
Dan Howell
You should have followed that amazing Phil hack of putting. We could have called ourselves 1, 2, 3. The hard launches. Dan and Phillips are at the top of the list.
Phil Lester
If you do it, thanks. If not, it's fine. Also news, we are going to be going away for two weeks.
Listener/Caller
Aw.
Dan Howell
I could have just been like, guys, need to announce something. Hiatus.
Phil Lester
No, don't. You're not allowed. You're never allowed to do that. So there's not gonna be any hard launch for the next week.
Dan Howell
We have tour to rehearse to. We are getting ready to get on a bus. And look, there's a whole world of exciting content around the world coming. But in order to do that, we need to go into a hole for the next couple of weeks.
Phil Lester
We do.
Dan Howell
We are gonna come out of that hole like Jesus. That's what she said. He famously didn't do that, did he?
Phil Lester
We're gonna come out like a butterfly from a crystal lavender. Yeah. Ah. But if you're like, oh, no. Oh, they're going away. Don't worry.
Dan Howell
What am I gonna do?
Phil Lester
Because you can come over to Patreon for an extra 15 minutes of Dan and Phil right now. Right now.
Dan Howell
Maybe you can watch a minute every day for the next 14 days.
Phil Lester
We've got a list of tour buses that we can choose from, so we're gonna have a look at the different layouts and see where we could be sleeping.
Dan Howell
And we're gonna let the comments decide which bus we rent. We're not. That would be fucking crazy.
Phil Lester
The one with the bed and the stripper pole Just for me?
Dan Howell
Just for you.
Phil Lester
That's my room.
Dan Howell
I'm not allowed in it. Okay, you're either 26 Danafil Torbarth Trucers to come out and protect me here.
Phil Lester
You're in the luggage compartment where you belong. Anyway, thanks for joining us.
Dan Howell
Suitcase play.
Phil Lester
Trying being, like, mean like you said.
Dan Howell
I don't like it. Go back to being anxious.
Phil Lester
Okay.
Dan Howell
So, yeah, sorry you're gonna be soft for a couple of weeks. We're gonna still post stuff here on YouTube so you can come check us out.
Phil Lester
There will be some more stuff on Patreon.
Dan Howell
And for the listeners, the next time you hear us, there's gonna be some special episodes coming. Oh, what does it mean?
Phil Lester
What does it mean?
Dan Howell
All right, we're going to go buy a hot tub, I guess. Bye.
Episode: Dan inserts Phil into his memories
Date: August 10, 2026
Hosts: Dan Howell & Phil Lester (Studio71)
In this comedic oversharing adventure, Dan and Phil put their friendship, codependency, and questionable memory to the test as they riff on everything from the confusion of moving meetings "forward," anthropomorphic foxes, emoji semiotics, and whether owning a hot tub would doom them to swinger-dom. Highlights include Dan's tendency to retroactively insert Phil into his memories, the perils of performing for others, killer butterflies, and an extended, irreverent debate about public urination and etiquette.
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This episode is a vibrant example of Dan and Phil’s signature comedic rapport—chaotic, confessional, and full of quick-fire absurdity. It's perfect for dedicated fans who love the pair's blend of wit, camaraderie, and unapologetic weirdness.