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Dan Howell
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Phil Lester
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Dan Howell
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Phil Lester
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Dan Howell
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Phil Lester
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Dan Howell
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Phil Lester
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Phil Lester
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Phil Lester
This is an intervention.
Dan Howell
Dan, not now.
Phil Lester
The way you pick up your laptop is offensive.
Guest or Additional Voice
What?
Dan Howell
This?
Phil Lester
Just by the corner of the screen.
Dan Howell
Stop it earlier.
Phil Lester
You're gonna break it.
Dan Howell
It's fine, it's fine. I am a man on the move, so I just gotta do these things.
Phil Lester
You're not on the move. You sat on the chair.
Dan Howell
Leave me alone.
Phil Lester
Also, it's not just that. He just throws it onto the sofa as well when we're home.
Dan Howell
Look, if it's a soft surface, there's nothing wrong with being like, all right, see you later.
Phil Lester
He just bounced off the chair.
Dan Howell
It bounds. If something's been in my life for more than five years, I just really struggle to respect it.
Phil Lester
Okay, why you throw me down on the sofa? Ooh, not like that.
Sponsor/Ad Voice
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Dan Howell
What does that mean? Yeah, I like to pick you up by the edge and just discus you.
Phil Lester
What edge?
Dan Howell
Oh, the Frisbee fic with ph and tumbler near you.
Phil Lester
Run.
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Three, two, one.
Dan Howell
Happy hard Monday.
Phil Lester
Happy hard Monday. We got a taxi here today. And for some reason, I developed a really high voice when I Was saying goodbye.
Dan Howell
Oh, have you got effeminate goodbye syndrome?
Phil Lester
Why did that happen?
Dan Howell
It's okay. We're woke in 2026. You say goodbye, however you are.
Phil Lester
But normally I'm quite deep. But he was like, she'll drop you off here. I went, yeah, that's okay. I was like, what? Who is that?
Dan Howell
You regressed back to being seven when you'd answered the phone and people would think, it's your mum.
Phil Lester
I hated that. And I used to have to answer the phone.
Dan Howell
Hello, Leicester residents. All right, Catherine, what do you want?
Audience Member or Caller
It's Phil.
Phil Lester
My dad was like, you've gotta say the full number as well. 226 foreign.
Dan Howell
If you do that on our podcast,
Phil Lester
I'd say 226409, Phillip speaking.
Dan Howell
And they'd still go, you're right, lass.
Phil Lester
Yeah. I said, I'm not doing it anymore. It's your phone. Answer it yourself.
Dan Howell
Parents, I don't think you did say that to your dad, did you?
Phil Lester
And then I threw him down the stairs by the ears.
Dan Howell
Yeah, it's okay. I don't think the taxi driver's thinking about you.
Phil Lester
No. But you know what I'm thinking about? The lava lamp. It's still not working.
Dan Howell
Week four, the lava lamp is dead. The sign is dead. One of our TVs in the studio is dead. Each week, a goblin is sneaking around this room, breaking something.
Phil Lester
It's crumbling. It's those crystals we bought. They're curse us.
Dan Howell
Don't say that. We need what not to sponsor us again.
Phil Lester
The fuck Sponsor us with some good crystals next time.
Guest or Additional Voice
Jesus.
Dan Howell
Look, we had a plan to fix it. Basically, it's stuck in the base. So we bought some oil and we were like, right, so you're just supposed to like stick this nozzle in the thing and then you just kind of drip this oil around the lava lamp. And then we had a moment.
Phil Lester
I'm too gay to put nozzles into things.
Dan Howell
That's offensive. There are competent homosexuals around the world.
Phil Lester
I'm not one.
Dan Howell
It's not about being gay. It's about being Phil. We are Dan and Phil.
Phil Lester
We are.
Dan Howell
And we do not trust Dan and Phil to oil a big glass cylinder.
Phil Lester
And I didn't want to lube up my nice shirt as well. Mr. Bizarre as well.
Guest or Additional Voice
WD.
Phil Lester
Oy. This is nice. I wore this to the Chelsea flower shirt, bruh.
Dan Howell
So we're gonna get a man in the room or a woman of competent, perfectly handy them.
Phil Lester
A competent them.
Dan Howell
Maybe because it's not about your gender identity or Sexuality. It's just about being a useless bitch in general.
Phil Lester
What we should do is get a stick of Lurpak, run it round the rim, and just give it a good pull.
Dan Howell
You think you're funny, don't you?
Phil Lester
It's not the first time I said that.
Sponsor/Ad Voice
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Dan Howell
Okay.
Phil Lester
I'm in a good mood today, which is refreshing, because yesterday I was irrationally angry.
Dan Howell
Phil was like. You know when a dog is just like.
Phil Lester
Everything was pissing me off, which is rare for me because I'm normally very low key.
Sponsor/Ad Voice
Yep.
Phil Lester
I'd say I'm normally quite happy skipping.
Dan Howell
Phil, I've never seen you get more than 2 inches off the ground, wobbly and skipping.
Phil Lester
But yesterday, why were you so pissed off all day? That's the thing. I don't know. Maybe I had a hormone or something, but something popped up.
Sponsor/Ad Voice
Oh, God.
Dan Howell
One of those.
Guest or Additional Voice
Yeah.
Phil Lester
And I was just getting scared. Peeved at little things.
Dan Howell
Even you.
Phil Lester
I was like, I don't want to look at you.
Audience Member or Caller
Ugh.
Dan Howell
Okay, let's go through it. Were you hangry?
Phil Lester
Maybe a little bit hangry.
Dan Howell
Do you know what I sometimes get?
Guest or Additional Voice
What?
Dan Howell
Tangry.
Phil Lester
What's that?
Dan Howell
When I'm tired.
Phil Lester
Oh, yeah.
Dan Howell
And I'm just sat. It's usually when I'm on a couch and I've just watched something and I'm like, bed. That's all the way over there. And it's like, I'd rather just sit looking at reels for 15 minutes. Then after 15 minutes, I'm just like. I'm so pissed off. I'm not asleep right now.
Phil Lester
Did you notice?
Dan Howell
God, I'm so fucking angry. Just sat here and it's like, yeah, I could just walk over to bed and get in it, but it's just
Phil Lester
f. Did you notice I even said the C word when we played Mario Kart?
Dan Howell
That's usually me.
Phil Lester
I know.
Dan Howell
You know it's bad when Phil says the C word.
Phil Lester
The only other time I've been like this is when I had codeine. I don't know.
Dan Howell
Prescribed.
Phil Lester
Prescribed. No, I had to have it.
Dan Howell
Phil has codeine and he gets angry.
Phil Lester
That was on a tour bus. And everyone's like, what's wrong with him? He's turned into a monster.
Dan Howell
Also, if you don't have coffee before
Phil Lester
10:07am well, that's like the millennial thing. Don't speak to me before I've had my coffee. But I can't do that anymore because I can't stop.
Dan Howell
Live, laugh, love. Give me my fucking latte.
Phil Lester
Well.
Dan Howell
Or I'm gonna start choking Dan.
Phil Lester
Thankfully, that version of me is gone because I can't have coffee anymore.
Dan Howell
Oh, thank God.
Phil Lester
Yeah. Anyway, I cured the anger by eating a mindful Solero. I just went and sat. No phones, no screens, sat in the garden fully cross legged and I just licked that tropical goodness.
Dan Howell
So was it tangry? Were you hot? Were you hot, Gris? Were you.
Phil Lester
Whatever it was, it melt.
Dan Howell
I think maybe you just don't like it work. So you were just sat there, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, like a dog at the computer. And it was like, I don't identify with this lifestyle.
Phil Lester
I don't want to do that.
Dan Howell
No. I want to be having an ice cream. And so you did it like when
Phil Lester
the cavemen just had soleros.
Dan Howell
Exactly that.
Phil Lester
I just wanted to be like, we yearned for it in our DNA return to nature.
Dan Howell
What was the caveman version of Solero? Cause they didn't have none of that.
Phil Lester
Just a big stick of dinosaur meat.
Dan Howell
Yeah, that's what I'm thinking. Just licking that.
Phil Lester
Triceradon. Triceratops.
Guest or Additional Voice
Okay.
Phil Lester
Tricerabottom.
Dan Howell
You can't ask that. No, that's why they went extinct.
Phil Lester
Triceracide.
Dan Howell
It's hard to find a top in London, is what they say in London.
Phil Lester
I thought that was in Barcelona. There's no tops.
Dan Howell
And la. There's a real shortage.
Phil Lester
Oh, yeah.
Dan Howell
It's because of all the media narcissists that go there.
Phil Lester
I feel like this conversation has gone in eight directions.
Dan Howell
Do you know what I think it was?
Sponsor/Ad Voice
What?
Dan Howell
You were angry because you were dehydrated from the popcorn.
Phil Lester
I think that's why we had too much popcorn at the Odyssey and you'd
Dan Howell
completely failed the Nopisschallenge.
Phil Lester
I was bladdermaxing. I was really, really trying not to piss.
Dan Howell
Camel core.
Phil Lester
And it didn't work.
Dan Howell
Wise men. On your back. Where's the fucking baby?
Phil Lester
I had nothing to drink.
Dan Howell
Keeping the liquid.
Phil Lester
I had nothing to drink for four hours before the film.
Dan Howell
That's a bit much.
Phil Lester
I know.
Dan Howell
That's actually a performance to the point
Phil Lester
where I had a bit of a headache, but then I had my large drink during it with the popcorn. I think that just went straight through me.
Dan Howell
It would, wouldn't it? Like a slip and slide.
Phil Lester
Yeah. And it's a long film. It's three hours. So by the last half an hour, all I was thinking about was, if
Dan Howell
I say Zendaya one more time, I'm just gonna rip piss.
Phil Lester
I'm just gonna piss. So I need to watch it again now.
Dan Howell
It was good Though.
Phil Lester
It was so good.
Dan Howell
Although we did get tutted.
Phil Lester
We got tutted.
Dan Howell
Not for speaking. Cause usually I'm the popcorn thrower.
Phil Lester
You are that guy.
Dan Howell
Someone was like, I can't believe they got popcorn for this. Oh, sorry. We're seeing a Christopher Nolan movie. We can't be eating.
Phil Lester
You can't have popcorn.
Dan Howell
This isn't just a film. This is cinema.
Phil Lester
But that's.
Dan Howell
Therefore you can't be chewing on the popcorn.
Phil Lester
Where are you going to find popcorn? Anywhere else? It's not like an unusual circumstance, is it?
Dan Howell
So I'm not a loud popcorn chewer. I literally suck popcorn, so I don't make noise.
Phil Lester
But they're looking at these popcorn fools like we just walked in with.
Dan Howell
Look at these bumbling children with their large Cokes and their large popcorns.
Phil Lester
Full Burger King or something.
Dan Howell
Yeah.
Phil Lester
No, no.
Dan Howell
If there's a quiet moment and I've got loads of popcorn in my mouth, I will stop.
Phil Lester
Yes.
Dan Howell
And I'll literally go, glands activate until it's liquid. Yeah.
Phil Lester
With respect, that's what I do. Every silent moment. I stop chewing. I won't want to ruin it with a single crunch.
Dan Howell
Respectful.
Phil Lester
But do you know what? I wanted to crunch on Matt Damon's biceps. God, he's been working out.
Dan Howell
Good for him. And he was supposed to be a stranded sailor.
Phil Lester
I know.
Dan Howell
There's a lot of protein in that lotus flower, huh?
Phil Lester
He could crush anything. Y.
Guest or Additional Voice
Good, though.
Dan Howell
Which shows that the moral of the story is weird. Right wing grifters are irrelevant and they live in an echo chamber of silence.
Phil Lester
What have they been grifting? I don't pay attention.
Dan Howell
They hate everything about it.
Phil Lester
Oh.
Dan Howell
For reasons which made no fucking sense.
Phil Lester
There's a woman in it.
Dan Howell
Yeah. Because I think, you know, as it turned out, the casting was amazing.
Phil Lester
There's a trans man in it.
Dan Howell
We liked all of the choices for every single reason.
Phil Lester
I loved everything about it, but not just that film.
Dan Howell
Twitter was being really annoying because I went, oh, look at the armor. Oh, it's not right. Oh, look at the shape of that. Oh, look at the color of that. Well, guess what? You were all having opinions for months based on two pictures, and then you saw the film and everyone's like, oh, it's the best thing ever. Moral of the story. Everybody shut the fuck up.
Phil Lester
Yeah, just eat popcorn.
Dan Howell
Yeah, exactly. Shove some popcorn in your mouth and stop worrying about things. Stop worrying because we've got friends that are like, oh, I liked that thing. And then I went on the Internet and I saw these opinions that's Your mistake.
Phil Lester
Yeah. You need to have your own opinions. Otherwise you are going to turn into a fool.
Dan Howell
I think that it can just stress you out sometimes. If you're into a TV show and you just see what people are saying on Twitter and Reddit. Don't live in peace. Free yourself from knowing what the hot takes are. Live in your perfect, tepid lake of enjoyment.
Sponsor/Ad Voice
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Dan Howell
Just basking in the things that you like.
Phil Lester
Don't read anything ever.
Dan Howell
Yeah, maybe. Although I did enjoy. I was gonna say we can't spoil the movie.
Phil Lester
Don't spoil it.
Dan Howell
It is a story that's been out for a while. Homer really did that and not the Simpsons.
Phil Lester
Yeah, it's stressful out there on the sea, though. Whirlpools.
Dan Howell
Who knew that was out there?
Phil Lester
When I was a kid, I thought I'd be dealing with whirlpools a lot more than I actually have been in my adult life.
Dan Howell
There's so many things that fantasy and adventure novels, they love to sprinkle in. And you're like, fuck. Quicksand.
Phil Lester
Yeah.
Dan Howell
Is that just out there? If I'm walking the dog, I need a plan for that.
Phil Lester
And then you never encountered it? No, I think I almost did in Scarborough. I went down to my shins and I thought it was over. What my friend had to pull me out. It started to suck me down.
Dan Howell
Is this a real thing that happened?
Phil Lester
No, there's like a dangerous bit of Scarborough where there's quicksand proven.
Dan Howell
The Bermuda Triangle. When I was seven and I heard about that, I was like, every time I get on a flight now, I'm gonna have to get a globe and be like, where the fuck is this triangle?
Phil Lester
Where's the triangle? And why were they teaching.
Dan Howell
We're gonna die.
Phil Lester
Why were they teaching us about the triangle in school?
Dan Howell
Why do we need to know about that?
Phil Lester
Like here, class, we're gonna learn about the death triangle where your plane's gonna fall out the sky.
Dan Howell
Deep sea mines. You know, the underwater spiky mines.
Phil Lester
Well, that's cause of crash Bandicoot. I thought they were all like video games, movies.
Dan Howell
There's fucking mines in the sea. I'm trying to paddle here.
Phil Lester
Boom. Acid rain was one I worried about.
Dan Howell
Holy shit.
Phil Lester
Do you remember that 11?
Dan Howell
I hear about acid rain? The fucking what?
Phil Lester
The rain is acid.
Dan Howell
The rain is gonna do what? To me.
Phil Lester
Every time it rained, I was like, is this the time I'm gonna melt?
Dan Howell
And I'm not talking about, oh, coastal erosion. When you hear about it the first time, you're like, so we're all just gonna die. We're gonna be out and then we're all gonna melt and it's gonna be really horrible. In reality, none of those things are actually issues.
Phil Lester
No.
Dan Howell
What was all that stress about?
Phil Lester
So what are some things in actual adult life that they should be teaching you about?
Dan Howell
Not looking at your phone when you' that's really 90% of danger.
Phil Lester
But we had that. When you're out on the road, don't afraid to see that road stop and turn. Bonnie belly. King of the road.
Dan Howell
Okay, well, you don't fucking remember the words, so it was a headshot. You're going to die. Yeah.
Guest or Additional Voice
Okay.
Dan Howell
Having a short password. That's what's going to get you.
Phil Lester
Don't do that.
Dan Howell
Hunter 11. Name of the dog. Titties.
Phil Lester
They're out there. Fire alarm batteries. That's something.
Dan Howell
Who's fucking remembering that? Nobody. We're all going to die.
Phil Lester
Beep beep. Selling a TV on eBay while naked.
Dan Howell
The reflection.
Phil Lester
Yeah, don't do that.
Dan Howell
Whirlpools. Quicksand. No. Flashing your clothless body in a reflection on the Internet. That's the real danger.
Phil Lester
Don't do it.
Dan Howell
Psa.
Phil Lester
Speaking of things in TV reflections, here's the thing. Talk about slow news day.
Guest or Additional Voice
Slow.
Phil Lester
Snailer Swift has won the snail racing championship in Norfolk, England.
Dan Howell
Always fucking England, isn't it?
Phil Lester
600 people flew from as far as Poland and Brazil.
Dan Howell
Who is flying from Brazil to England to watch a snail race?
Phil Lester
I would go to the snail race
Dan Howell
if I knew it's the coolest fucking person you've ever met in your life.
Phil Lester
The champion beat Christopher Sloane and Snailifer Lopez.
Dan Howell
Okay, what would our ones be?
Guest or Additional Voice
Phil?
Phil Lester
This is bad.
Dan Howell
Daniel Slime. Sure.
Phil Lester
Snailer did 13.5 inches in 3 minutes and 13 seconds. Am I right?
Dan Howell
Friday night, Am I right, brother?
Phil Lester
You're gonna do that getting lit off the antacids?
Guest or Additional Voice
Yep.
Phil Lester
And I'm not talking about Tums or Rennies. Seagulls have been acting drunk and causing traffic chaos globally as it flying ant season again. And the formic acid they produce has similar effects to humans consuming alcohol.
Dan Howell
Getting letty off the ants. Tippy.
Guest or Additional Voice
Who knew?
Phil Lester
So the seagulls are eating the ants and then getting high.
Dan Howell
Yeah. And then they're just standing in traffic being like, what the fuck? Why don't you fucking seeing me? You look like my girlfriend.
Audience Member or Caller
Weird.
Dan Howell
Yeah, exactly. You should enter that seagull championship.
Phil Lester
I have been practicing for next year.
Dan Howell
This is gonna be a moment. No, that was a monkey. That was Shit.
Phil Lester
That was really so sorry.
Dan Howell
That was actually really embarrassing. Quickly, move on. Move on.
Phil Lester
All hail Jimothy. All celebrity animal mascots are irrelevant.
Dan Howell
Flops. Yep.
Phil Lester
Mudang.
Dan Howell
Who the fuck is that? Shut up. I bet she's like big and old now.
Phil Lester
Oh, my God. Nothing wrong with being big and old compared to Jimothy, the short spined raccoon.
Dan Howell
Yes.
Phil Lester
He's captured the hearts of the world in the form of murals, baseball, mascots, and even tattoos. I've seen Jimothy. Jimothy is so cute. It's quite Pokemon esque.
Audience Member or Caller
He.
Dan Howell
He is quite.
Phil Lester
Has Jimothy told you their pronouns might be faye femme? Exactly?
Dan Howell
We don't know. I will say quite iconic. Are the tattoos quite quick?
Phil Lester
It's quite fast, yeah.
Dan Howell
And also, like, how long will we be thinking about Jimothy for?
Phil Lester
Well, you're gonna be thinking about him forever if you got him tattooed on your ass cheek.
Dan Howell
And I am a random tattoo in. I don't like to shame anybody for getting things. Okay. Video game stuff, sentimental stuff. I feel like when it's so fresh and then you get a fucking massive short spined raccoon on you, is it like that might be hard to explain, but who am I to say when people really emotionally resonated with that?
Phil Lester
I would rather someone got a Jimothy than what anything else.
Dan Howell
Okay.
Phil Lester
And that was the thing.
Sponsor/Ad Voice
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Phil Lester
We've got our zone out music for it now, don't we? Did you appreciate Dun dun dun.
Dan Howell
It wasn't about body parts this week. It was more about the animals.
Phil Lester
I really enjoy an animal theme and
Dan Howell
that's what's happening in the world. Stumpy animals.
Phil Lester
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Phil Lester
I'd love to see the wow signal, actually, because it's like being slapped in
Dan Howell
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Phil Lester
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Dan Howell
But what if you were seeing the geno and there's a pole in front of you because you sat in a 1 out of 10 seat?
Phil Lester
Dan, there are ratings of 1 to 10.
Dan Howell
That is so helpful.
Phil Lester
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Dan Howell
What a way to tell you whether you will get prime Geno Vibrations.
Phil Lester
So you can choose one seat. Oh, it's a six. Might miss that one. Wait, there's a nine over there.
Dan Howell
And it's cheaper and I can feel it.
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Yeah.
Phil Lester
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Dan Howell
What'd you get for that?
Phil Lester
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Thanks. Seatgeek.
Phil Lester
Woof. It's warm over here and I'm in my flowy summer era. I want to feel breezy.
Dan Howell
Okay, well, as long as you're covering yourself with something.
Phil Lester
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Dan Howell
Wow. What do you like the look of?
Phil Lester
I took a look and you know what I ordered?
Dan Howell
What?
Phil Lester
Some Italian swim trunks.
Dan Howell
What makes them Italian? Well made in Europe.
Phil Lester
I don't know.
Dan Howell
Dangerously short. Okay, what else?
Phil Lester
I got you some black ones as well. Also a green toiletry bag for travels.
Dan Howell
Nice and practical.
Phil Lester
And they had my favorite sunscreen supergoop, which you can't feel on your face.
Dan Howell
I got something because I'm trying to get Phil onto the the taste bandwagon. An heirloom tomato candle.
Phil Lester
Oh yeah.
Dan Howell
That's breezy, that's summery, that's flowy.
Phil Lester
I'm not sure about the smell of
Dan Howell
a tomato pizza candle. No, it'll be nice.
Phil Lester
I also got some gray sweatpants for tour.
Dan Howell
You're not. Okay, we're not talking or allowing the gray sweatpants.
Phil Lester
I got them. They're coming. I can't wait to feel so Italian and breezy.
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Phil Lester
We have a new prime minister that's
Dan Howell
also a thing that happened. Yeah. Okay. I mean priorities. I feel like I'm more interested in Jimothy Andy Burnham he's already fucked it.
Phil Lester
He's got rid of the podium.
Dan Howell
Exactly. Performatively relatable politician wants to not do a speech in front of a lectern. That has now robbed us of hot
Phil Lester
Lectern guy, hot podium guy.
Dan Howell
I'm here for the cat and the jacked Lectern Guy.
Phil Lester
What's his job now exactly?
Dan Howell
AI, taking people's jobs. And now Lectern dude doesn't even get to do that.
Phil Lester
No. He's gonna have to go on some website and do things next to a lectern.
Dan Howell
Honestly, the TikTok creator to onlyfans pipeline. I encourage and I support that for Lectern Guy. If he's listening.
Phil Lester
Yeah.
Dan Howell
But, okay, yeah. New prime minister. Let's see how good he does.
Phil Lester
He's not gonna wear suits.
Dan Howell
Oh.
Phil Lester
Because he's a T shirt lass.
Dan Howell
Just a normal man.
Phil Lester
I kind of relate to him on that.
Dan Howell
He's just an innocent man.
Phil Lester
I don't like wearing a suit in general, so I kind of think if you don't have to, don't do it.
Dan Howell
Yeah. Andy Burnham should rock up wearing some fuck ass.
Phil Lester
Why do you hate this shirt?
Audience Member or Caller
Lovely.
Dan Howell
Everything that your entire wardrobe is compromised of.
Phil Lester
I don't know why you hate this shirt.
Dan Howell
I don't hate the shirt. It's lovely. It does look like your skin color. It looks like you got some flower tattoos on you.
Phil Lester
That's why you. It looks like I'm naked and I've got flower tits.
Guest or Additional Voice
Yeah.
Dan Howell
That's what. Well, now you've ruined it.
Phil Lester
Let's give him a shot.
Dan Howell
Well, I would like the UK to not have a new prime minister for, like, 16 minutes. So let's see how it goes.
Phil Lester
Fingers crossed he'll still be here by December. If not be a good person. We can have a green prime minister. Shrek. Yes.
Dan Howell
Okay.
Phil Lester
We were having a debate earlier. If a friend.
Dan Howell
Not about politics, about something way more important.
Phil Lester
If a friend says could do, when you're talking about a plan, does that mean 100% no. Does that mean, like, fuck your plan? I hate it.
Dan Howell
If you suggest something and someone says, could do, that means no. They fucking hate you.
Phil Lester
That means no.
Dan Howell
They think that you are ugly and stupid.
Phil Lester
Not ugly.
Dan Howell
And they are disgusted by your suggestion.
Phil Lester
Okay.
Dan Howell
Do you want to do this? Like I could do. Okay, I'm just going to go cut my eyes out.
Phil Lester
That's your inner monologue. But actually, if someone says could do,
Dan Howell
it's like, yeah, we could do that.
Phil Lester
If you're a freak, could do is worse than no. They're obviously making an excuse. No's like, oh, I'm busy.
Dan Howell
Yeah. I'd rather that it's so devastatingly no that they are coming up with an excuse.
Phil Lester
Are we thinking about it too hard, though? And it's actually yes, and we're losing out on anything that could do. Because it might be. They don't want to seem too eager. They don't want to be, like, nonchalant. They're like, yeah, keep going, keep.
Dan Howell
I don't have time for that. If you've got friends in your life, they're like, yeah, could do. Shut up, we're all dying. Let's make the plan.
Phil Lester
What about can do?
Dan Howell
I think that's different.
Phil Lester
That feels different.
Dan Howell
It's like, oh, yeah, we could. Whereas it's like, we can.
Phil Lester
We can.
Dan Howell
Yes, we can. Obama says, Friday night. Am I right, brother? Let's do it.
Phil Lester
I still don't think we've reached the yes category with can do.
Dan Howell
But now we're worrying about if you suggest something and someone says yes, then have you got something that you should be worried about?
Phil Lester
Yes is good. Yes.
Dan Howell
Whereas, yes, kind of like, whoa, have you done a crime? And you're only coming to this because you need an alibi.
Phil Lester
Maybe.
Dan Howell
Yes.
Phil Lester
Yes.
Dan Howell
Coming on strong. I like that we are debating about this when we've also got someone in our life that I was annoyed by because I thought they were too good of a friend.
Phil Lester
Oh, what does that mean?
Dan Howell
This person was too active of a listener.
Phil Lester
Oh, I see. So they were really like.
Dan Howell
And it actually annoyed me. They were making eye contact, they were listening and they were responding to the things that I said with questions that were adding for further detail. And I actually felt like it was too much.
Phil Lester
That's someone just being a good friend, Dan.
Dan Howell
No, actually. And you know what else?
Sponsor/Ad Voice
What?
Dan Howell
They're too decisive.
Phil Lester
Right.
Dan Howell
We're like, how's about this? And they went, yep, great. It's like, no. Where's the kind of, like, think about it, I don't know, blah, blah, blah. I think I'm just so used to people being like, dunno. What do you think? This person just went, yes. And it scared me.
Phil Lester
Wow. I think the problem is us here also. You make it seem like we've got about 9,000 friends on this podcast, when actually you're just rotating the three friends that we have.
Dan Howell
Yeah. Every week when I'm like, so we got this friend that we have four friends and we're just rotating the shit that we talk about them anonymously each week in the hopes that they won't realize could do. Can do. Yes.
Phil Lester
Yes. Say yes to me.
Dan Howell
Pivot. Pivot. Is it too early for Richard? No, no, no. That's Richard now.
Phil Lester
Richard.
Dan Howell
Richard. Yes. Yes. Yeah. Thank God.
Phil Lester
Okay, it's your turn to twist. Whoosh.
Dan Howell
It's a pink one.
Phil Lester
I love a pink ball.
Dan Howell
Oh, hefty crunch 4k, full frame, IMAX bull pop.
Phil Lester
I love that.
Dan Howell
Yo, this is from the audience.
Phil Lester
Oh, no. Not another arm wrestle. Do a leg wrestle.
Dan Howell
It just says pet play.
Phil Lester
From who?
Dan Howell
From Lawrence. Thanks, Lawrence.
Phil Lester
Lawrence wants us to talk about pet play.
Dan Howell
We're going there. We're Richard ing the Richard. And it just started. So we got pet play allegations on main once because we did, like, a TikTok trend, but I thought it'd be funny to talk to you like a dog.
Phil Lester
Good boy.
Dan Howell
Yeah. It was giving someone instructions, but they don't know what the task is. But I kept saying good boy, and people were like, I hate this. But then some people were like, I like this. So, yeah, pet play.
Phil Lester
Bring him in on a lead.
Dan Howell
That would be helpful for you, actually. You know how people have those, like, toddler restraints?
Phil Lester
Oh, yeah.
Dan Howell
I feel like you need that.
Phil Lester
I do struggle with direction sometimes. So I think if we were in a shopping center, you could, like, drag me to the right shop because I'd start walking in the wrong direction.
Dan Howell
You just start pissing up people if they smell funny.
Phil Lester
Yeah, yeah, I do that.
Dan Howell
Anyway, I think the fun of pet play is. Oh, is this not what we're doing?
Phil Lester
What? Phil, that makes it sound like we do it. The fun of pet play.
Dan Howell
Not necessarily.
Phil Lester
Woof.
Dan Howell
The fun of tax fraud is briefly spending loads of money before it all comes crumbling down.
Phil Lester
Right.
Dan Howell
We're not doing it. Pet play.
Phil Lester
Meow.
Dan Howell
No. You've got to commit, Phil.
Phil Lester
There's a rhino. Why do people only artistic pet play. Why do people only choose dog or cat?
Dan Howell
Allegations. Exotic pet play allegations.
Phil Lester
Only pet play. As a rhino or a lesser spotted.
Dan Howell
Is it problematic to pet play as an endangered species that shouldn't be kept in captivity? Or are you doing, like, breeding program play?
Audience Member or Caller
What?
Phil Lester
Not breeding.
Dan Howell
We are two rare mammals that must do it, and you can have a dom that's looking after you, being like the park ranger, and it's like. It's not pet play. It's like you're in captivity, but we need to do it, otherwise you're gonna be endangered. So it's really important, then. It's actually important for you to do it.
Phil Lester
Right.
Dan Howell
Yeah.
Phil Lester
What about if you fill the room with water. And then it's like, dolphin.
Dan Howell
Yeah. One of you takes LSD and you pretend to be that scientist lady. Google it. Ultimately, I think it's just hard to be a person.
Phil Lester
Yeah. I think it must be refreshing to be like, today, I am a flying honey badger.
Dan Howell
Well, that's like just role play. I think that's tumblrcore.
Phil Lester
Right.
Dan Howell
But on the most boring level, I think it's like, it's stressful to have a job or to have, like, things to do. And it's also stressful to think and have your own opinions. So for someone to just be like, sit, stay. It's like, oh, that's fun.
Phil Lester
Eat out of the dog bowl.
Dan Howell
Yeah. And this is funny because I think if you ask either of us, it's like, I like eating at the dining table.
Phil Lester
Yeah.
Dan Howell
I don't like being told what to do.
Phil Lester
No. I hate being told what to do.
Dan Howell
So no shame if part of that appeals to your psychology in any way.
Phil Lester
I think we should not kink shame. If you want to be mostly a dolphin and a dolphin trainer, we will not judge you. But don't flood your house. And that's not how we flooded our house.
Dan Howell
The forensic investigators coming back.
Phil Lester
Oh, no.
Dan Howell
About the dolphin play.
Phil Lester
I found the dolphin lead.
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Moles.
Phil Lester
Moles. We went from mole map futuristic photograph
Dan Howell
of our entire bodies, which sounds like a soft launch for an OnlyFans situation, but it's not. We're being proactive about our healthcare because. What's your biggest organ, Phil? Not like that. Disgustang.
Phil Lester
Your skin.
Dan Howell
Your skin.
Phil Lester
I have a lot of moles. I'm actually the most at risk category of skin. Skin you can have apparently so we found this place.
Dan Howell
It's like Star Trek. It sounds like we fell for a trick, but this is legit. You walk into a room and you get completely naked.
Phil Lester
Yeah.
Dan Howell
You then stand in front of 35 cameras that all take a simultaneous, massively high resolution flash photo of your body. And then a computer goes, here are all of the moles on your body. And the idea is you can go back in a couple of years and it will go, that mole has increased in size, blah, blah, blah, this, that, and the other. So we figured that's just, like, good thing to have.
Phil Lester
And either way, you should be checking your skin. So I think it's important.
Dan Howell
Yeah, but, you know, the reason why we're doing this is, you know, it would be like my job. And have you fucking seen this guy? Well, I don't have time for that.
Phil Lester
The results tell me how many moles I have on my body. Guess. Guess.
Dan Howell
And the freckles don't count?
Phil Lester
Well, no, A certain size of a freckle is.
Dan Howell
Oh, my God.
Phil Lester
Okay, 80, 327 moles.
Dan Howell
Yeah, I ain't doing that. I'm sorry. I know that if you have a supportive partner, it's like you can go in to check, do help stuff for each other. Nope. Nope.
Phil Lester
What they also give you is a 3D version of your own naked body. You can spin around because the photos,
Dan Howell
it basically scans you into a game, like an actor in a video game. And they say they can give it to you on a USB stick and you can open it and it's literally your naked body in 3D merch.
Phil Lester
No, shoot. We could print them out.
Dan Howell
I thought you were gonna give people the USB sticks.
Phil Lester
No, no, no.
Dan Howell
You want the files with a ph.
Phil Lester
We could 3D print our little naked bodies and put them on the fridge or something.
Dan Howell
Oh, and then people can play Join up the moles on Phil's tin.
Phil Lester
Want to see is if you flip yourself upside down and look from that
Dan Howell
angle, imagine you're in 3D space down, and you can tilt it around and look up at yourself from the floor. You don't need to know what that angle looks like. No, I think you assume that in life, most people that might have seen you from certain angles, it's like, dark.
Phil Lester
Yeah.
Dan Howell
Maybe they're not thinking about it too hard. Flash photo. We're being proactive about our health, but at what cost of psychic damage?
Phil Lester
But if a mole starts looking different, go get it looked at, because that's bad. And my dad.
Dan Howell
Unless your girlfriend is the mole in which Case say, you keep looking the way you are, you freaky little thing.
Phil Lester
But, like, my dad had a.
Dan Howell
The lights are off.
Phil Lester
My dad had a slightly.
Dan Howell
Fill the room with dirt.
Phil Lester
Stop with the pet play.
Dan Howell
Find me.
Phil Lester
I'm trying to make a dig. Skin cancer thing. My dad had a slightly different colored mole, and he didn't want to get it checked. And then he went to get it checked, and it was mild skin cancer.
Dan Howell
So. Hello, skin.
Phil Lester
Speaking of photos as well, I ordered some purple Polaroids because I thought it'd be fun to take some purple Polaroids for the tour promo.
Dan Howell
Can you even get new Polaroids anymore?
Phil Lester
No, it's like a weird, like, ebay listing.
Dan Howell
So it was coming from someone's ancient house. I love it when you buy old things off ebay. And it's. Someone died with them, didn't they? Probably, yeah.
Phil Lester
It arrived with 50 black socks.
Dan Howell
Were they using it for packaging, padding?
Phil Lester
I don't know.
Dan Howell
Like, we need to protect the film.
Phil Lester
But of all things, why 50 socks? Why do they have 50 socks just to put in there with the film?
Dan Howell
I mean, that's some Dan Howell shit. I think I do have 50 black socks.
Phil Lester
Maybe it was just quite a sinister package.
Dan Howell
Did you sniff them?
Phil Lester
They were clean.
Dan Howell
They were clean.
Sponsor/Ad Voice
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Dan Howell
They have that factory new smell, but I still. It wasn't like, I need to find something that's already in my house, shove it in the box.
Phil Lester
I still didn't want to keep them. Do you know what I mean?
Dan Howell
Like, get some peanuts from the post office. Nah, mean, why do you need the fucking sock?
Phil Lester
Sock package.
Dan Howell
What are you gonna say on ebay? Thank you came quickly.
Phil Lester
Not sure what.
Dan Howell
I was haunted by the socks. Yeah, maybe no to that if it
Phil Lester
was like two socks, but 50 was a lot.
Dan Howell
I mean, are you gonna give them extra? Because now you've just got 50 socks to do whatever you want with.
Phil Lester
Maybe puppet play. We need to stop with the play.
Dan Howell
Well, if you want me to stop talking, why don't we invite in some special guests?
Phil Lester
My favorite people.
Dan Howell
This is the part of the show where you get to be Dan and Phil and hard launch the things that you want the world to think about.
Phil Lester
My ears are open for you now.
Dan Howell
Who do we have today?
Audience Member or Caller
Hi, Dan and Phil. It's Adrienne from Atlanta, Georgia. I want to tell you that you're so funny. You made me split my stitches. I just had surgery on my abdomen, and this is going to be the first podcast episode that I'm going to have to skip because it made me laugh. So hard that now I'm bleeding.
Guest or Additional Voice
No.
Phil Lester
Oh my gosh. Don't listen to Dan and Phil with stitches.
Dan Howell
I guess. Thank you and sorry.
Phil Lester
Yeah, either that or we've gotta stop being funny. Let's talk about something serious. What's your favorite kind of cement?
Dan Howell
I don't know a single thing.
Phil Lester
Have you seen any other interesting rocks? Not funny. It's not funny.
Dan Howell
Uh, yeah.
Phil Lester
What? Which one?
Dan Howell
I did geography. A level.
Phil Lester
Name a Rob. Hilarious. Sedimentary sediment.
Dan Howell
Fucking bitch.
Phil Lester
We can't do it. Just stop listening.
Dan Howell
She's dead.
Phil Lester
Stop. No. I hope you get well soon, but
Dan Howell
also you're probably not even listening to this right now.
Phil Lester
When you are better, maybe listen back when we said get well soon.
Dan Howell
And hello, hope you're doing fine and
Phil Lester
your abdomen is intact.
Dan Howell
Next.
Guest or Additional Voice
Hi, this is Federico from NH Columbia. Hi, I'm an English teacher and I would like to hard launch using the Dan and Phil podcast as a great tool to study advanced English while also converting people into the Dan and Phil cult. Yeah, I would also like to say hi to my student Camilla, who should be watching this episode right now for her homework.
Phil Lester
Advanced English.
Audience Member or Caller
Hello.
Dan Howell
Advanced.
Phil Lester
It's definitely advanced. I'd say that much. I'm not sure we're the best teachers, to be honest.
Dan Howell
Advanced is the word I think this podcast is. You gotta have an understanding of the English language so that we can then desecrate it horribly.
Phil Lester
But we're all for bringing people into the Dan and Phil cult.
Dan Howell
Absolutely. So thank you to you for indoctrinating the youth and to your students. I hope you're doing fine. Hopefully you didn't understand everything we said for the last 20 minutes.
Phil Lester
Yeah, don't talk about pet play.
Dan Howell
Next.
Audience Member or Caller
Hello, I'm Freya from Kent and I wanted a hard launch that I'm in love with my co worker and I don't know how to make a HR appropriate move on them. So, as two people who have dated as co workers, what would you recommend that would be above board?
Phil Lester
Oh, that's quite wholesome there. In love with the co worker.
Dan Howell
Would you say we're the people to give advice on this topic?
Phil Lester
No, we are not the people. We don't have hr. We are each other's hr. But what would I say? Maybe say, do you want to talk those spreadsheets?
Dan Howell
Do you want to spread these sheets?
Phil Lester
Oh my God. Over a wine sometime? Why don't we crunch those numbers?
Dan Howell
Yeah, and you can crunch something else if it goes well.
Phil Lester
No, they're in love. It's not about love.
Dan Howell
Sorry, I'M so sor.
Phil Lester
This is about cute love.
Dan Howell
I love your pencil.
Phil Lester
Why don't we talk about the spreadsheets while we have a picnic in the park?
Dan Howell
When I look at you, my bar graph goes all the way up.
Phil Lester
You are filthy. You don't deserve love.
Dan Howell
I think you gotta play it cool at first. If you go really hard, I mean literally, and then it goes wrong, that's gonna be hella awkward. So I would maybe play a longer game and not go straight for the one night thing. Unless you're prepared to sit in the consequences.
Phil Lester
What about when there's work drinks with everyone? You could then kind of like say, hey, what are you doing later?
Dan Howell
Or after the drinks?
Phil Lester
Or why don't we get dinner before we go to the work drinks? And then you need to go to HR and just be like disclosing it.
Dan Howell
We're disclosing it.
Phil Lester
We're in love and we're getting married and we're having five babies. I just saw your future fanifestation. The dog is beautiful.
Dan Howell
And the dog is an actual pet that you have.
Phil Lester
Lovely.
Guest or Additional Voice
Oh.
Dan Howell
If you want to cleanse your ears or you are trying to get some work done, we're releasing a new.
Phil Lester
Is that what you're talking about? Yeah. Yeah, we're releasing a new Lo Fi album. Dan and Phil Beats is back. And you can pre save our soft
Dan Howell
launch Lo Fi Beats to start a situationship too.
Phil Lester
It's our best lo Fi yet and it has a beautiful album art made by Usagi as well.
Sponsor/Ad Voice
Thank you.
Dan Howell
And it includes a lo Fi remake of Hard Monday, the podcast theme which
Phil Lester
we're playing a bit of now. Listen to that. Did you hear that? So pre save it and it's gonna be out on July 31st.
Dan Howell
And the next time you wanna pretend to be crunching some numbers while imagining that person sat across the desk from you as a mole. This is your soundtrack.
Phil Lester
Yeah.
Audience Member or Caller
Thank you.
Phil Lester
Well, if you want more of today and you don't wanna leave us yet, you can come to patreon.com Dan and Phil, where we're gonna go deeper. Hanging out deep for an extra 15 minutes.
Sponsor/Ad Voice
Wow.
Dan Howell
Thank you for supporting us over there. We hope that you have a lovely week. Don't try to oil anything up without someone qualified in the room. And we'll see you next time.
Phil Lester
Sleep well.
Episode: We 3D Scanned our Naked Bodies
Date: July 27, 2026
Hosts: Dan Howell & Phil Lester
In this new chapter of their characteristically unfiltered and chaotic podcast, Dan and Phil dive deep into the experiences that pushed their boundaries—most notably, undergoing a full-body 3D mole mapping which required them to be naked in a futuristic scanner. Alongside musings about adult life, health anxiety, and their signature irreverent banter, the episode explores the unexpected, like snail racing, pet play allegories, and exchanging advice on awkward co-worker crushes. It's an erratic ride through modern anxieties, internet culture, and unexpected vulnerability.
Laptop Handling & Domestic Life:
Changing Moods & Emotional Regulation:
Cinema Experiences & Film Discourse:
Childhood Anxieties That Never Materialized:
What They Should’ve Taught At School:
Deciphering Social Phrases:
Viral News Items:
Internet Animals & Mascots:
Skin & Health Anxiety:
PSA:
“If something’s been in my life for more than five years, I just really struggle to respect it.”
– Dan Howell [01:40]
“Live in your perfect, tepid lake of enjoyment.”
– Dan Howell [09:50]
“When I was a kid, I thought I’d be dealing with whirlpools a lot more than I actually have been.”
– Phil Lester [10:24]
“Flashing your clothless body in a reflection on the Internet. That’s the real danger.”
– Dan Howell [12:28]
“If you suggest something and someone says, could do, that means, no. They fucking hate you.”
– Dan Howell [20:00]
“It basically scans you into a game, like an actor in a video game.”
– Dan Howell [28:23]
“If a mole starts looking different, go get it looked at, because that’s bad.”
– Phil Lester [29:10]
The episode’s tone is enthusiastically erratic, blending irreverent humor, candid oversharing, meta commentary, and supportive sincerity (“No shame if part of that appeals to your psychology in any way…”), with rapid-fire topic jumping and a conversational, best-friends-at-3am vibe.
Dan and Phil’s willingness to nakedly examine both their literal bodies and the weird minutiae of modern life makes this episode a perfect encapsulation of HARD LAUNCH’s promise: scary, messy, and fun truth-telling—with a side of pint-sized plastic printing of your most embarrassing angles.