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Phil Lester
We almost had to call this podcast off today.
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Why?
Dan Howell
Serious emergency.
Phil Lester
I had a serious injury this morning.
Dan Howell
You are so unserious. Why am I looking at your exposed feet right now?
Phil Lester
I couldn't put shoes on. It was that bad.
Dan Howell
Well, now you're scaring people.
Phil Lester
I think I've broken my toe, you fucking drama queen. No, seriously, it's really bad. I can't put shoes on.
Dan Howell
Are you just trying to soft launch foot contact?
Background/Other Voice
No.
Dan Howell
What is this?
Phil Lester
If I was doing that, I'd put them down.
Dan Howell
Don't give them attention.
Phil Lester
I'd have my bare feet out.
Dan Howell
How did you do this?
Phil Lester
Basically, I was trying to put my contact lenses in. I was walking around the room and then I stopped my.
Dan Howell
Okay, stop, stop. Why are you walking around the room while trying to put contact lenses in? I think we solved the problem.
Phil Lester
Cause I'm a multitasking bitch.
Dan Howell
No, that's not an impressive thing. I really think the act of giving yourself sight with the contact lenses. Focus.
Phil Lester
Okay, fine.
Dan Howell
I know you need to pace sometimes.
Phil Lester
Yes.
Dan Howell
But I think pacing and I can't see is not a combo.
Phil Lester
Well, I was doing that, and then I stubbed my toe on the bed and poked myself in the eye at the same time.
Dan Howell
Phil did not see that coming.
Phil Lester
No, that's why I'm wearing glasses as well. So I got a finger to the eye and my toe is all purple.
Dan Howell
We really in so much pain you couldn't put shoes on?
Phil Lester
Yeah, you're not inside my toe.
Dan Howell
Okay, mate, I'm not inside your toe. Your toe's not inside me. Let's keep it that way.
Phil Lester
Whoa. You don't know how I feel.
Advertisement Voice
Ow.
Dan Howell
What the fuck?
Phil Lester
Oh, I didn't think you'd say ow.
Dan Howell
Did you fucking say? You just bitched me.
Phil Lester
I feel like you don't feel pain as much as me. I feel like I've got more of a Pain thing than you.
Dan Howell
And so you just decided to test that?
Phil Lester
Yes. All right.
Dan Howell
Okay. See what I put through this is gonna be exhibit C in the fevorce. I hope you're all ready to testify.
Phil Lester
I'm getting custody of what? Wouldn't you like to know?
Dan Howell
Yeah, no, no, we're not stopping. I would like to know, Phil.
Advertisement Voice
What?
Dan Howell
Am I not getting custody of the child? Oh, my God. Yeah, well, stay tuned for that plot twist because I don't know what's coming.
Phil Lester
I don't know if I'm gonna live with this toe.
Dan Howell
Hard Mondays. What's up, listeners?
Phil Lester
Here we are.
Dan Howell
What's up, viewers?
Phil Lester
What's your name?
Dan Howell
Sniffers. My name's Dan.
Phil Lester
I'm Phil.
Dan Howell
And welcome to another Hard Monday.
Phil Lester
What's a sniffer?
Dan Howell
I was just being funny because if people can listen and see the podcast, they can't smell it.
Phil Lester
I wish they could. It smells so nice in here right now.
Dan Howell
What does this room smell of? Do you know?
Phil Lester
The facement has a specific smell and it's nowhere I've ever smelt before.
Dan Howell
That makes it sound bad. So now, just for the canon experience of people listening, you need to tell them it's nice.
Phil Lester
I would say it's floral and minty at the same time. Ooh, a flint.
Dan Howell
A flint.
Phil Lester
A moral scent.
Dan Howell
Romantic, but in a way that someone respects that. You might be getting tongue action. So they've cleaned that thang out.
Phil Lester
Oh, God, no.
Dan Howell
Is that not a good thing, not
Phil Lester
cleaning that thang out?
Dan Howell
If you stay ready, you don't have to get ready.
Phil Lester
Don't put toothpaste up there.
Dan Howell
You probably can't. No, as I said, there's various things that you shouldn't put.
Phil Lester
You shouldn't.
Dan Howell
You shouldn't put latex based things sometimes.
Phil Lester
Let's not think about it too much. But you know that I thought that
Dan Howell
was a great conversation topic for the amusement of the podcast.
Phil Lester
That tingly shower gel, original source mint. You don't want that.
Dan Howell
That gets up in there.
Phil Lester
If that goes near any hole violating burns.
Dan Howell
It's like if you've been. And then you get in the sea and you go, ooh, the salt. You can get minty shower gel at any point to just find out where the holes are.
Phil Lester
I know the bottle says feel the tingle. You definitely feel something for a few minutes after that.
Dan Howell
Phil said, dan, we need to think about how we start these podcasts. Because some people, they like to start their Mondays with them. Someone is getting ready for work and they're in the shower and they don't want to hear about blank. Well, if they don't want to hear about blank. I think we fucked up so hard
Phil Lester
for the first few minutes, a tingling urethra.
Dan Howell
You didn't have to say you're easy.
Phil Lester
I know. Well, you know what I mean.
Dan Howell
Yeah, I do. But I really think there's a nastiness to the delicate edge. Innuendo of filth without being direct. And then you said vaginal edge.
Phil Lester
There's nothing wrong.
Dan Howell
Name a women anatomy, Phil. Vaginal edge. There's so many edges.
Phil Lester
Clitoral hood.
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Yes. Okay.
Phil Lester
Yeah, there we go. You tested me and I passed, fucked
Dan Howell
around and I found out. I just wanted you to say labia. Why did you have to say clitoral?
Phil Lester
Because everyone knows what a labia is, Phil.
Dan Howell
It's 8:23am for somebody. And you said clitoral hood.
Phil Lester
All vaginas are beautiful. We learned that at the vagina museum.
Dan Howell
You didn't know that before you went
Phil Lester
to the vagina museum?
Dan Howell
I always knew that Vagina museum Phil was one of those problematic gays.
Phil Lester
I wasn't.
Dan Howell
Ah, they're so scary.
Phil Lester
I never thought that. If anything scary, it's a penis.
Dan Howell
Speak king.
Phil Lester
Whoa. What's going on there?
Dan Howell
It's swinging. So it's not an inside, it's an outside. It's in your face. Metaphorically. Penises, you know, it represents everything that's wrong with the patriarchy.
Phil Lester
Anyway, what are we going to talk about that's not genitals.
Dan Howell
I thought we were gonna get arrested.
Background/Other Voice
Woo.
Dan Howell
Do you know what I'm gonna say?
Phil Lester
No.
Dan Howell
That's quite fun, isn't it?
Phil Lester
Why would we get arrested?
Dan Howell
What do you think it is, Phil?
Phil Lester
Dan didn't.
Dan Howell
Why? Dan, we actually. It's you. It's entirely you.
Phil Lester
What have I done?
Dan Howell
20 questions. What'd you do?
Phil Lester
Did you call the cop?
Dan Howell
I haven't called the coast guard on you yet, but the coast guard might be coming.
Phil Lester
I haven't stolen anything.
Dan Howell
I was like, okay, we need to like take a picture of a utility bill to send someone for proof. Where have we got something? And Phil went, I'll check the letter pile. And I said, oh, yeah, sorry, the what? Turns out Phil just collects mail from our post box.
Phil Lester
Yeah.
Dan Howell
And he's just got a pile of what I would say is maybe 20 letters.
Phil Lester
I'm not opening letters.
Dan Howell
And it's not all flyers for pizza restaurants. There are a lot of brown and white sealed envelopes that look like things that you should open.
Phil Lester
My philosophy is if you want to get in touch with me, you got to email me. I'm not killing the planet with all these letters.
Dan Howell
That's very woke of you, Phil. Cancel tax. Have we paid our council tax? I don't know.
Phil Lester
Why don't they just send it in the mail?
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Yes.
Dan Howell
There is not. I don't know. You see what I'm fucking saying?
Phil Lester
Right? Okay. We'll open the letter pile tonight. It'll be romantic. Let's rip those envelopes open and burn them romantically.
Dan Howell
Or throw them into the fire and be like, danifield, don't want to pay tax. Let it go.
Phil Lester
No, we'll pay.
Dan Howell
No, we do. Paying tax is important for society.
Phil Lester
We will pay our bills.
Dan Howell
How are they going to fill in the potholes for the roads that we don't drive on?
Phil Lester
I don't know.
Dan Howell
There is a strong argument that Dan and Phil shouldn't have to pay council tax because we don't participate in society. But we do it happily because we believe in society.
Phil Lester
I believe in society.
Dan Howell
You want clean streets?
Phil Lester
Why don't you take control of the letters?
Dan Howell
That's your job. You do the washing machine and the letters.
Fan/Caller
No.
Phil Lester
Oh my God.
Dan Howell
I take the bins down and the work.
Phil Lester
Let's do it tonight together. Bit of spaghetti, bit of letters.
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Right.
Dan Howell
Well, when we move to Panama, you'll know what the fuck happened. Yeah, just kidding. We wouldn't do that. We'd take one for the team and go down honorably.
Phil Lester
We would go to prison together.
Dan Howell
Oh, that's a nice au.
Phil Lester
I haven't seen that actually. Have you seen many Aus out there?
Dan Howell
No, but I'm gonna go to AO3 right now. Shit AO3, because I want to find something from like 2016.
Phil Lester
Are you searched Dan and Phil and prison?
Dan Howell
Yeah, I'm gonna search Dan and Phil prison now. I don't do this. We were having this chat. I do believe that sometimes. You should respect that fandom spaces don't want the artists or the creators to look at certain things.
Phil Lester
True.
Dan Howell
And you just need to know that for my mental health, I have no fucking interest in doing that. We're not gonna read her algorithms shows me some crazy shit.
Phil Lester
We're not gonna read the whole fic. We're just go get a little taste of what it is.
Dan Howell
Taste. Oh dear Phil. And what is the smell of the Dan and Phil prison fic for anyone that is not just listening and watching floral and minty. Oh God. Okay. And what did they have to trade for those mints?
Phil Lester
Oh, who's in the jail?
Dan Howell
I bet it's you who is in the jail? I thought we're in the cell together.
Phil Lester
No, it's a prison fic. One of us is in prison and the other one's sad and dead.
Dan Howell
Sad and dead? And what is this? I'm haunting your cell?
Phil Lester
Yeah.
Dan Howell
After the incident, how did we die? I'm sorry. I just went to AO3 and now I'm like, ticking the usage policy. Do I want to give my cookies? By checking this box, you consent to the processing of your personal data in the United States in connection with the provision of AO3 and its related services.
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Whoa.
Dan Howell
The more you think about that, the more fucking weird that is. I know I just said yes.
Phil Lester
Coldcore. Great. I'm ready.
Fan/Caller
Oh. Oh.
Dan Howell
With you for Life by Sunshine and sadness.
Advertisement Voice
Oh.
Dan Howell
Dan Howell. Young, scared, and in prison.
Phil Lester
You are in prison.
Dan Howell
Tough, brave, and in prison.
Phil Lester
Oh, we're both in prison.
Dan Howell
When their worlds collide, will Dan still want to escape? Or will he stay with him for a lifetime?
Phil Lester
Wow. I'm your big burly cellmate.
Dan Howell
And that comes from 2016. Hey, shout out to Sunshine and Sadness. Not gonna read that. I'm sure it's great.
Phil Lester
Hey, so I was the prison jock and you were the prison scared twink. Take that, muscle boy.
Dan Howell
Phil's gym lad in the yard, pumping
Phil Lester
that iron, pounding those weights. Do you pound your weight?
Dan Howell
Pounded. I don't know what's happening. We're not gonna think about it. We are moving on.
Phil Lester
We are.
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Phil Lester
I'm out. Let's go.
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Dan Howell
What's happening in the world?
Phil Lester
We're going on tour.
Dan Howell
We are going outside. We are going to miss so Many important letters this fall and winter.
Phil Lester
I was very shocked by the response. It's been absolutely crazy, positive and energetic. Thank you.
Dan Howell
Thank you all for giving a shit about Danafil in the year 2026.
Phil Lester
I'm so excited for it to happen.
Dan Howell
We appreciate it. We added some new shows. Brighton, London. No point mentioning Birmingham or Sydney because they already sold out.
Phil Lester
Oh yes.
Dan Howell
But I do have a list of cities that Dan and Phil are going to where less of you are and therefore we need to promote them.
Background/Other Voice
Really?
Phil Lester
This could be a holiday opportunity. Have you ever wanted to go to Seattle, Oklahoma City.
Dan Howell
Austin, Chesterfield, Missouri.
Phil Lester
Kansas City. Sounds like a riot.
Dan Howell
Chicago, really big venue.
Phil Lester
We could get deep dish pizza together. Hartford, Nashville. Clearwater, Florida Fan by the beach.
Dan Howell
Where is Clearwater, Florida?
Phil Lester
It's near Tampa. I know my Florida.
Dan Howell
More of you need to go to Clear Auckland.
Phil Lester
What? You could go Hobbiton. Let's do Adelaide Radelaide.
Dan Howell
Perth.
Background/Other Voice
Yeah.
Dan Howell
Is really just on its own side of the earth, isn't it?
Phil Lester
Yeah. Perth.
Dan Howell
Perth. More like hardly on earth, but. But we are coming there. Please come.
Phil Lester
Now's the time to have a little trip. If you don't live there, it's gonna be fun.
Dan Howell
If you're gonna get tickets to the London show, fly to Perth.
Advertisement Voice
Yeah.
Phil Lester
Some of them have got silver VIPs as well.
Advertisement Voice
Still.
Phil Lester
Yeah.
Dan Howell
Get in there lads.
Phil Lester
Get in there. Dan and filtour.com we appreciate it.
Dan Howell
Shout out to every fuck ass venue who is acting like they've never put a show on sale before.
Phil Lester
Do you know it's been challenging.
Dan Howell
Do you know this is the fifth tour, Phil we've done?
Phil Lester
Yeah.
Dan Howell
And it's like none of these venues have done the job that it's all they have to do every single day.
Phil Lester
No.
Dan Howell
Well, our tickets go on sale at 12 and they're like at 3pm Three days later. No.
Advertisement Voice
No.
Phil Lester
Or just having a website that doesn't even load tickets. That seems important. It's always fun when that's your venue.
Dan Howell
You're in a queue for 3,000 people for a room that only has a thousand seats.
Phil Lester
Do you know what was funny? I was testing it and I got gold VIP to London because I was like, I just want to make sure this works. And everyone's like, it was so hard to get. I managed to get it multiplicatively.
Dan Howell
Phil, you kick like 12 people out of a queue just to check that the website work. High five. I'm not high fiving that as I'm
Phil Lester
meeting Dan and Phil.
Dan Howell
You're meeting Dan and Phil Pog.
Phil Lester
No, I released it straight away. I didn't hold onto them.
Dan Howell
Yeah, thank God. But, hey, as we said before, all tickets are good tickets. We're doing this. We don't know if we're gonna do it again because Phil's gonna die. We're gonna get arrested. It's gonna be the prison fic.
Phil Lester
My toe's gonna fall off. Ow. I just bent it to check. It still hurts and it does.
Dan Howell
Do you want attention or what?
Phil Lester
Yeah, rub it better in slow motion.
Dan Howell
That'll sell more tickets. I actively don't know if the people want.
Phil Lester
Do you think it would rub it? No, Nurse it.
Dan Howell
Show me how flexible your hamstrings are. Straighten your leg out. Go on, drag queen.
Phil Lester
Come on, hit me with like a full on. The fill is as far as it goes.
Dan Howell
He's just kneeling and then his pelvis shatters and he fucking dies.
Phil Lester
My pelvis has flexibility.
Dan Howell
Yeah, in the prison fic, not in real life. I need 15 packets of cigarettes. Let me get them.
Phil Lester
Can we just spend the podcast looking up fics and seeing if they exist?
Dan Howell
I don't want to do that.
Phil Lester
Let's do that on Patreon.
Dan Howell
But we appreciate the reception. Okay, we hit Pop Crave and Pop Base. The two towers of media.
Phil Lester
I mean, what else do you need? And we didn't pay them.
Dan Howell
Yo, fuck Variety, right? Who are the people that actually did the really nice article for us?
Phil Lester
That was such a nice article.
Dan Howell
Our time has finally come. After 10 years of trauma of Dan and Phil back in fuck ass 2015, having to deal with random homophobic old men. Journalists. Now you are mostly the journalists that we speak to.
Phil Lester
I love that we hop on a
Dan Howell
zoom call and someone's like, hi, my name is Mikaela. I've been watching you since I'm 11. And we're like, perfect. Fuck yeah, let's go.
Phil Lester
My slight offense was, you know, PopCrave tweeted a picture of us. They didn't say Dan and Phil stun. They just said Dan and Phil.
Dan Howell
Dan and Phil for Variety.
Phil Lester
Where's the stun?
Dan Howell
I guess I'm an ugly fuck then. Like, what the fuck? Dan and Phil flop in brackets. Ugly Dan and Phil transcend Dan and Philay. Infinite pussy.
Phil Lester
Yes. That's what I wanted.
Dan Howell
They kick it up the galactic wall.
Phil Lester
We need to try harder for Variety. Our next photo shoot, we need to just be completely slay.
Dan Howell
You need to start working on your hamstring stretches now so that the next photo shoot that we do, someone goes, phil Spreads.
Phil Lester
I'M just like bending over and looking through the hole in my legs for Vanity Fair. That's it. Yeah, Spreads it.
Dan Howell
We've got lots more photos, though.
Phil Lester
We'll be sprinkling those out throughout the next few months.
Dan Howell
It's gonna be fun. We appreciate it.
Phil Lester
It made me realize I need loads of clothes for tour, though. Cause I like to curate a aesthetic.
Dan Howell
Thanks to the photo shoot, we have lots of clothes, such as the ones that I'm wearing now. I'm so excited to just slowly wear all the clothes that we bought.
Phil Lester
Photo shoot. I want to get more tall clothes.
Dan Howell
What's your excuse? Dusty ass, bright future shirt.
Phil Lester
What's wrong with this? It matches the colors.
Dan Howell
It's lovely. It's one of the most iconic Phil shirts ever.
Phil Lester
I'm teasing it out as we go along.
Dan Howell
You've got hat on, glasses on because you had a contact lenses issue. Got no shoes on because you stubbed your toe.
Phil Lester
I've not tried.
Dan Howell
I'm not wearing new clothes. Are you all right, Phil?
Phil Lester
I'm okay.
Dan Howell
Are you having a mental health week?
Phil Lester
No, I'm not. I'm fine.
Dan Howell
You will get through this pod.
Phil Lester
But I was wearing some short shorts the other day and Dan was like, phil, they're out now. You need baggy shorts.
Dan Howell
Phil was wearing some aggressively short shorts. I like that they weren't so short that you are intentionally showing off your ass. They were just a bit too short. Topman 2017 vibe. It's like, that ain't it.
Phil Lester
And apparently that's not in anymore.
Dan Howell
No bag saga or up so much that you can see sack. Okay. Although the other day, someone was like, dan, Phil, if you're going to be taking this new era seriously, you need a stylist.
Phil Lester
What? This offended me. I feel like I've got my own style. Very curated. The Phil Lester look is today is
Dan Howell
a really bad example. But I would say usually week by week on the podcast in general, both expressing our personalities, style very successful.
Phil Lester
So this stylist was like, hey, if we're going to do things like Vanity Fair and have photo shoots, we need a stylist for everyday life. Because what if we're photographed in the streets?
Dan Howell
You need to be wearing that archival fucking merch from whoever the fuck ten years ago.
Phil Lester
So just as an example of what they could do, they sent a little mood board for what Dan or Phil could wear.
Dan Howell
Oh, my. Firstly, I was like something with a color. And I was like, you have not done your fucking homework. I'm gonna scream.
Phil Lester
They wanted Dan to wear colors.
Dan Howell
Offensive.
Phil Lester
A rebrand. And then the thing that offended me is they wanted me to wear brown and gray.
Dan Howell
Oh, my God. It just wasn't right.
Phil Lester
It just wasn't right.
Dan Howell
They were like, you just need to start, you know, elevating and curating a look so that if you want to be in certain outlets. And I was like, we do that. We have an aesthetic.
Phil Lester
We have a great aesthetic.
Dan Howell
We serve funt every fucking Monday. Thank you very much.
Phil Lester
Nice to see Phil Lester in a brown turtleneck.
Dan Howell
It is not the 2013 Teen Awards era.
Phil Lester
No.
Dan Howell
Only three, four years later at the Brits, I upstaged Harry Styles.
Phil Lester
Oh, you did?
Dan Howell
You were there.
Phil Lester
Oh, yeah. And Phil was there.
Dan Howell
I meant that in a nice way.
Phil Lester
Yeah, no, I was there. I looked there.
Dan Howell
But it's like whether we are dressing ourselves and expressing ourselves on a weekly basis, or if we were like, okay, we're gonna fake a paparazzi moment, we go to Erewhon. Erewhon, pick up our $20 strawberries, they're
Background/Other Voice
not gonna let us in.
Dan Howell
I'm just gonna be wearing this, like, super, like, funny vintage merch. We got that all the time.
Phil Lester
Yeah, that'll be me and my sonic PJs.
Dan Howell
Exactly. And celebrities, basically, we realize, actually have no personality.
Phil Lester
No.
Dan Howell
A lot of pop stars and actors, they genuinely don't know how to dress themselves because they have no personality or feelings or style.
Phil Lester
That's it.
Dan Howell
So they pay someone thousands of dollars to say, hey, you're going to look super nonchalant on TMZ wearing these crazy PJs. And it's like, Phil, you could just be out there.
Phil Lester
I'm going to be out there.
Dan Howell
Minecraft PJs with the hole in them.
Phil Lester
I just want to be my authentic self. I don't want to be styled and molded by another person, because then you don't need it. I'm going to lose my sense of self. And then who am I? Am I the stylist? Are they me? Do we share a brain?
Dan Howell
Now, morally, you're so right, Phil. Against it. And also, objectively, I don't think you need it.
Phil Lester
No. But what I gonna do is maybe hit up Susan the stylist. Oh, thank you. I appreciate you. Also, you don't need it either. You look great all the time. I might hit the stylist up if we do anything, which needs, like, a suit again, because that's the thing. I'm like, no. What?
Dan Howell
We styled ourselves consistently for the Brits. We did a YouTube video a couple years ago, Dan and Phil. Red carpet tier list.
Phil Lester
That stresses me out.
Dan Howell
No Epic serving every single time. You don't need it.
Phil Lester
Okay, fine. You can dress me. Not like a dance. Dan.
Dan Howell
Phil Stylefic Phil, the Parisian aristocrat. So much money, so many events to go to. Dan the tailor. Young, spunky. He's got his tape out and he's ready to. That's a word.
Phil Lester
Spunk.
Dan Howell
That's a word.
Phil Lester
Spunky.
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Phil Lester
Did you know Sam's Club isn't a store? It's actually a club with cool fines and like a whole community, it's a club.
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Phil Lester
It's in the name.
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Phil Lester
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Dan Howell
Come join us. Sam's Club.
Phil Lester
What's the news?
Dan Howell
You tell me, Phil.
Phil Lester
Here's the thing. Ayup. Cock said the sperm whale.
Dan Howell
Yep, that's the headline.
Phil Lester
What? A new study has found that groups of sperm whales from different areas of the seas produce different patterns of clicking sounds. I've got that northern sperm in me, you know? You know what I mean? No, no. I'll always be northern at heart. No matter how long I live in London and live near you.
Dan Howell
I don't want to know what you got up to in York University before you met me, Phil.
Phil Lester
I wonder what they're talking about.
Dan Howell
Seeing that squid. That's it.
Phil Lester
No, I think they're gonna Be like,
Dan Howell
the sea is blue today.
Phil Lester
They're gonna be gossiping. There's gonna be tea about some of the whales. They're gonna have little.
Dan Howell
I don't know what the word tea means. It's just water.
Phil Lester
They have their own version of tea. Yeah, Gil, that's so Gil.
Dan Howell
Now someone's gonna do the whale thing. Somewhere in the mid Atlantic, as a result of the devastating El Nino hot whale summer, two whales from different seas converge.
Advertisement Voice
Ooh.
Ay up.
Dan Howell
Cockfill clicked. Ooh. Dan flicked his tail, sending a nearby pod of tuna. Scrambling tunas and pods shoal. Sorry, you've ruined it. Waiting some marine biologists to fact check this fish fanfic.
Phil Lester
I bet whales think we're pretty stupid as humans because we're so small. They're like, what is that, little ant? I know you've got a city, but you're so.
Background/Other Voice
Just stupid.
Dan Howell
Because something's small doesn't mean they're stupid. And just because someone's really big and long doesn't mean they're smart. Next.
Phil Lester
From diners to dildos after beloved so Sorry roadside chain Little Chef went bust, Erotic Retail Pulse and Cocktails have bought over a dozen old locations, confusing local patrons.
Dan Howell
David Boothby, the company's chief executive, said, yeah, we have the odd elderly couple who pull in every now and then and try to order the Olympic break. But they usually have a giggle and sometimes walk out with a bag full of goodies, too.
Phil Lester
Oh, they're gonna walk out with the Mr. Olympia.
Dan Howell
Hey, no shaming.
Phil Lester
No.
Dan Howell
Good for them.
Phil Lester
Yeah, you gotta keep something active when you're in your old age.
Dan Howell
They came in for the sausage and they're left with the rabbit.
Phil Lester
Wow.
Dan Howell
Yeah.
Phil Lester
And lastly, the highway to hell is open again. Oh, yeah, that was hell with one L. The Polish beach town of hell was served by a local bus route of 666 until religious backlash made them change it.
Advertisement Voice
No.
Fan/Caller
What?
Dan Howell
However, the local town said, no, no, no. Good for marketing. Yeah, some people would be tourists and they would get on the bus all the way from, like, Krakow, Warsaw, down to the Baltic coast just because of this bus. So they brought it back.
Phil Lester
Oh, nice.
Dan Howell
I reckon we should ride into our Warsaw show on that bus on 666,
Phil Lester
and then we'll just set on fire.
Dan Howell
All right, that's enough of the world. Maybe we should just speak Wales so I don't understand you for the rest of the thing. He said northernly. Speaking of the north Prime Minister, Manchester.
Phil Lester
Interesting. I mean, I like that Manchester's getting so much Rep. Because I'm from it.
Dan Howell
You came from Manchester, so you're like, they should have more attention. But now you live in London, so you're like, no, I like being in the place that's currently getting an unfair amount of attention.
Phil Lester
Well, they're saying Manchester's becoming the new nexus of the uk. So what if we move back?
Dan Howell
Stonks rising. We yearn for the hometown.
Phil Lester
We yearn for it. Imagine that.
Dan Howell
What do you miss about Manchester? Do you miss the chiquitos in the print works?
Phil Lester
Oh, that was great.
Dan Howell
Dan and Phil2009 used to go on dinner dates to Chiquitos. To Chiquitos, your local Tex Mex chain and a shopping center.
Phil Lester
That was one of our first dates. The chiquitos.
Dan Howell
Cheesy chicken. Pitcher of margarita, rack of ribs.
Fan/Caller
Ugh.
Phil Lester
Two emos. Back to the apartment, raring to go.
Dan Howell
Watch Harry Styles on the X Factor. A simpler time.
Phil Lester
Oh, I remember that.
Dan Howell
What, One Direction on the X Factor?
Phil Lester
No, just like Saturday, we'd go to Hume and see our friends that lived there, and then we'd watch the X Factor. Get a takeaway.
Dan Howell
People used to all, like, watch television shows at the same time.
Phil Lester
At the same time when it was
Dan Howell
relevant in pop culture.
Phil Lester
And then we'd play a board game after.
Dan Howell
And what part of that do you yearn for the most?
Phil Lester
New Beijing Chinese takeaway.
Dan Howell
Oh, my God. Banging A local Chinese takeaway.
Phil Lester
If that still exists in Manchester. New Beijing was lit.
Dan Howell
Oh, my God, Phil. I think it's gone. No, it was literally, like, 15 years ago.
Phil Lester
Fine. We're not moving to new number 10 Downing Street.
Dan Howell
You just told one of our friends not to move somewhere that was spicy. You were given some spicy life advice the other day.
Phil Lester
Well, no. Do you know when a friend gives you this pivotal life question? Where?
Dan Howell
Fork in the road. I need to make a decision.
Advertisement Voice
Help.
Dan Howell
And you're like, I actually don't want to decide that for you.
Phil Lester
It's basically. You don't want to lean them too far one direction, and then they go and it's terrible.
Dan Howell
Okay.
Phil Lester
I don't want the guilt.
Dan Howell
So what about you?
Phil Lester
No, I'll always give an objective opinion, but also, I'm nervous that that's going to make them choose the thing.
Dan Howell
Yeah, I mean, that's too much power. Vice works.
Phil Lester
It makes me feel like I'm playing the Sims or something. Anyway, our friend was like, should I move to Korea or should I take this job in London? And I was like, oh, that's two very different things.
Dan Howell
I've had a Breakup. And I want to do something, so tell me what I should do next. And we're like, oh, I mean, do
Phil Lester
what you want to do best.
Dan Howell
Yeah.
Phil Lester
And he's like, no, I need you to tell me what to do.
Dan Howell
Phil tried hitting them with all the, like, whatever you do will support you. And he was like, no, no, no. Like, I need an opinion. Well, I think whatever will make you happy. Internally, it's like, yeah, but no. Like, give me reasons, pros and cons, which one I should do, and Phil.
Phil Lester
But if you're a good friend, you're gonna give your honest opinion. That's the thing. So I had to just say, move to Korea, which I didn't want to because I don't want one of our only friends to leave London.
Dan Howell
But I think it was one of those things that's like, if you want to do something wild, now is the time to do it. We support you. You can always come back. Otherwise, we're just gonna have this same conversation in a year.
Phil Lester
Yeah. Cause you might settle down with someone, and then you can't do anything anymore.
Dan Howell
Where do you want to go, Phil? You've got permission.
Phil Lester
Really?
Dan Howell
Yeah. Go on your own wall.
Phil Lester
No. Come with me.
Dan Howell
Ow.
Phil Lester
Richard.
Dan Howell
He's not even holding space for it. The idea scared him so much. Bring her in.
Advertisement Voice
Whoa.
Dan Howell
Oh, look at that gold ball.
Phil Lester
Oh, look at it. The gold ball is still on Richard, because.
Dan Howell
Oh. Wheeling Richard away. You're gonna come back.
Phil Lester
One of you out there is going to win a golden pig. A cousin of our golden pig, not
Dan Howell
our actual golden pig, because the ass has been smashed.
Phil Lester
Yeah.
Dan Howell
It would cut you.
Phil Lester
So we have put every person that has ever subscribed to the Patreon into a random generator, and now we are gonna find a winner. Does your name begin with J? Do you live in Canada?
Dan Howell
No.
Fan/Caller
Oh.
Phil Lester
The winner of a golden pig is Jordy from Canada. Congratulations.
Advertisement Voice
And I'm Dave.
Boop.
Phil Lester
Give it a little boop.
Dan Howell
That is an audacious object that is gonna be coming to you because we know where you live. Thank you for responding to the message. Sometimes when these things happen, you pick a winner, and then the person just, like, doesn't read the message. Well, they definitely read it, but they person did. And, in fact, they have a message for us and a question. So let's hear what they have to say. Be delicate with the pig.
Fan/Caller
Hi, Dannenfield. Hi, Jordie calling from Canada.
Dan Howell
Congrats.
Fan/Caller
I just wanted to say that I am so excited. This is so amazing. I can't believe I actually won a golden pig.
Phil Lester
Cherish it.
Fan/Caller
Also, my question for Dan and Phil is if you could redo any of the projects you've worked on since you started YouTube, maybe a past video or a book or a tour segment based on the person you are now, what would you redo and why?
Phil Lester
Ooh, that's a good one. That is good.
Dan Howell
Whatcha thinking?
Phil Lester
I think we should have both come out as a relationship sooner.
Dan Howell
Phil, that's not a project.
Phil Lester
Oh, yeah.
Dan Howell
This is actually our life.
Phil Lester
You are my project.
Dan Howell
What the fuck? If I could redo a project, it would be the marketing stunt that is our actual life.
Phil Lester
No. Okay, sorry.
Dan Howell
What priorities?
Phil Lester
What do you think?
Dan Howell
You know what I think the answer is, Phil. What if I could go back?
Phil Lester
Yeah.
Dan Howell
I would have not done the hiatus.
Phil Lester
Whoa. Really?
Dan Howell
That is.
Phil Lester
That's a lot.
Dan Howell
That's knowing what I know now. It's like knowing that we had the power to hard launch and all grow up and make the vibes so good. It's like I just feel for the people during that time that enjoyed the content. Even quitting my own YouTube channel. It's like now knowing all the different ways that you can do what you want and be authentic and have fun. I think there's like a way that we could have kept it going. That's okay. At the time, I needed the pause.
Phil Lester
Yes.
Dan Howell
To learn and become the person I am now. But if I could go back, I would have been like, daddy's still here.
Phil Lester
Now that you have the knowledge. So if you'd have looked into a mystical well and seen this beautiful life with such an amazing hot guy.
Dan Howell
Okay, self insert. What is going on?
Phil Lester
I'm only kidding. I think there could have been a way.
Dan Howell
He was not kidding.
Phil Lester
I think there could have been a way where we could have done.
Dan Howell
Okay, enough Phil fan fiction. We get it. It's very, very sweet. Okay. Can we actually get Richard back? Thank you. Yeah. I need saving from Phil. Writing the welfic.
Phil Lester
Yeah.
Dan Howell
Samara, what are you doing here? Uwu. Imagine if it's another gold.
Phil Lester
Oh. Oh my God.
Dan Howell
It's yellow. It's Pierce.
Background/Other Voice
Oh.
Dan Howell
Do you trust birds?
Phil Lester
Oh, I 100% trust birds. I know they've got that weird like glassy eye kind of owl scary thing. But Steve the pigeon, we had an emotional connection.
Dan Howell
You could trust that he wanted seed.
Phil Lester
Yeah.
Dan Howell
And that's it. You don't need to question his motives. All of these fuck ass people in the media industry, all these horrible influences, whatever. Do you know who you can trust? A pigeon.
Phil Lester
You can trust a pigeon?
Dan Howell
Yeah.
Phil Lester
We've had a nest in our garden for a while. I keep checking if an egg's gonna pop up.
Dan Howell
They're probably scared to squeeze it out because you keep looking at them. I give me some privacy and you're there like the fucking Colossal Titan going,
Phil Lester
hello, I want to put.
Dan Howell
How's your cloaca doing?
Phil Lester
I want to give them extra twigs and things.
Dan Howell
Should birds trust you?
Phil Lester
Yes, they should.
Dan Howell
Do you trust crows?
Phil Lester
Yeah. We've got a crow in the garden that always visits. It always comes back, but I feel
Dan Howell
like it's gonna dismantle something. It's gonna let itself in. It's gonna kill you in the night.
Phil Lester
I want to train it to bring me presents.
Dan Howell
There's a crow in the room. You want to train crows to mug people, steal their engagement rings and bring them to you so you can just hoard them?
Phil Lester
I don't want real.
Dan Howell
You're not even gonna pawn them?
Phil Lester
I just want, like, mysterious bits of metal.
Dan Howell
Grandma's teeth.
Phil Lester
No.
Fan/Caller
What?
Phil Lester
You're ruining my crow fic.
Dan Howell
Why is everything the fic today?
Phil Lester
I don't know.
Dan Howell
Name me one thing that a crow is gonna steal for you on someone else's behalf. That's not weird.
Phil Lester
A key. And then I've got to find the
Dan Howell
door someone's fucking locked over is gonna be real fucked up after that, isn't it?
Phil Lester
Life Quest.
Dan Howell
I swear it was just here.
Phil Lester
Oh, no.
Advertisement Voice
Oh.
Dan Howell
This is why we don't do this in the garden.
Phil Lester
Wow.
Dan Howell
Yeah. Once again, do you trust birds?
Phil Lester
You never said.
Dan Howell
How do we. Richard. The Richard, Do I. Right. Let me just. Yeah, do. Dan, there's a bird here.
Phil Lester
I've got a bird.
Dan Howell
Do I trust.
Phil Lester
Oy.
Fan/Caller
Birds.
Phil Lester
I've got a bird. I feel like birds.
Dan Howell
What type of bird? Seagulls. Well, they want your sandwich.
Phil Lester
Yeah, this is a owl.
Dan Howell
Owls are pretty sharp, but I like them. I like birds, but I don't trust them.
Phil Lester
Okay.
Dan Howell
You got a lot in common.
Phil Lester
Fine.
Fan/Caller
Ow.
Phil Lester
I don't trust you. I feel pain. I feel pain.
Advertisement Voice
Ow.
Dan Howell
I broke my neck and I can't do the podcast. All right, let's get a third in.
Phil Lester
All right.
Dan Howell
What would the people of our dear community love to submit today?
Phil Lester
Submit?
Fan/Caller
Hello, Dan and Phil.
Dan Howell
Hi.
Fan/Caller
I'm RJ from Michigan.
Advertisement Voice
What up?
Fan/Caller
And I would like to hard launch that. I wish I could go to the hard launch tour.
Advertisement Voice
Yeah.
Fan/Caller
However, I am going to be at a furry convention that weekend, so I can't go. It's already booked. I'm selling my Art there.
Dan Howell
Oh, you're a vendor.
Fan/Caller
Love you guys.
Dan Howell
Right.
Phil Lester
Bring all the furries to our tour instead.
Dan Howell
Do the Dan and Phil tour in the expo hall at the fur convention.
Phil Lester
Oh, shit. We move our venue to Fur con.
Advertisement Voice
Yeah.
Dan Howell
And that is gonna be a sweaty mosh table.
Phil Lester
We could reattach your tail.
Dan Howell
Okay. I am pressing the sound button. For that you only need two hours between like 8 and 10pm yeah. So Yiff all day. Sorry. Network and sell your art.
Phil Lester
Of course.
Dan Howell
Very rude of me. And then come to the Dan and Phil tour. That's where the yiffing's happening.
Phil Lester
Full fursuits are welcome at our tour.
Dan Howell
We've had that before. We've had furries at the meeting.
Advertisement Voice
I love it.
Dan Howell
I remember doing We're All Doomed and I had like furry jokes and there was someone in the front row that was just like, I can't fucking do this right now. You'd be surprised what the Venn diagram crossover is.
Phil Lester
I think we've got a strong furry audience and I love it.
Dan Howell
There's space and time for you to make it work. Phil wants to see the fursuit.
Phil Lester
Scaly's welcome too.
Dan Howell
Next.
Fan/Caller
Hi, boys. My name is Kalen27. She her from Louisiana. The boot. Hello. And my homage is to bring back flip phones. I am currently recording this on my flip phone. I have had her for about a year and while the audio quality might be yes, she has saved my life. I have my text, I have my call. I have my photos. I can watch YouTube girl. What else do you need? End doom scrolling love y'. All. Bye.
Dan Howell
Maybe you do need a slightly better microphone. Maybe I was like, I want to be respectful. What the fuck is this right now? That makes sense.
Phil Lester
But a flip phone would save you from scrolling TikTok for 10 hours.
Dan Howell
Is it worth it for the drama?
Phil Lester
Yes, maybe. And also you look really cool when you go flip.
Background/Other Voice
Hello.
Phil Lester
I enjoy scrolling Phil's like, I don't doom.
Dan Howell
I joy scroll. I spend hours every day looking at absolute slop. Phil says no. Phil loves his doom brick and there's nothing you can do to take it from him. But I'm sure you look really cool on the corner.
Phil Lester
Next. Not on the corner.
Background/Other Voice
Hello, Dan and Phil. My name is Elliot. I'm from Liverpool and I'm here with my partner Jordan. Hi. I am hard launching the fact that Jordan falls asleep listening to your videos every night. But I prefer to listen to positive affirmations while so the only way to get over this is for you guys to film and upload an eight hour video of you guys reading some positive affirmations. Thanks in advance.
Dan Howell
We need to combine relaxing nighttime positive affirmations and Dan and Phil's fuck ass podcast rap.
Phil Lester
Alright, well, let's do it. And then you can play it on repeat as you're falling asleep.
Dan Howell
Hello, I'm Dan.
Phil Lester
I'm Phil.
Dan Howell
We are gay.
Phil Lester
You are gay.
Dan Howell
We do. If you are, that's fine. You will get through this pod.
Phil Lester
It's a Monday. You are hard.
Dan Howell
Twitter isn't real. It can't hurt you.
Phil Lester
There is not a man in the
Dan Howell
room but your partner is there. Like there is someone in the room in a good way. Like, is there a third person maybe? I don't know. We are not in the corner of your room or under your bed in like a demonic sense.
Phil Lester
You're a strong, confident person and you want to get tickets for the Hard Launch tour. They're on sale. Dan and Philtour.com subliminal advertising have a nice sleep.
Dan Howell
If you live in Hartford, please buy a ticket.
Phil Lester
Auckland wow.
Dan Howell
Thank you.
Phil Lester
Thank you for that.
Dan Howell
They're gonna have a great night now.
Phil Lester
Oh yeah.
Background/Other Voice
Are you?
Dan Howell
No. They're gonna fall asleep, Phil. That was the whole point.
Phil Lester
They went to sleep.
Dan Howell
They went to sleep.
Phil Lester
Well, if you want to stay awake, we're gonna continue this party over on Patreon. I wanna do more of that fan fiction game where we just search some words and see what happens.
Dan Howell
I am fucking tired. Terrified of the prospect of that. We'll do a bit of that, but okay. Thank you for joining us. This has been a very fun hard Monday and we'll see you next time.
Phil Lester
Good night. Bye. Good morning.
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Episode: “We let a fan ask us ANYTHING”
Date: July 6, 2026
Hosts: Dan Howell & Phil Lester (Studio71)
This episode of HARD LAUNCH with Dan and Phil fully leans into the oversharing, irreverent, and slightly chaotic energy fans expect. Dan and Phil not only deliver comedic banter and personal updates (including a minor foot crisis), but let their community have a direct role: a Patreon fan wins a prize and gets to ask them any question. The episode mixes life updates, reflection, candid insights about their careers and relationship, chaotic news coverage, and interactive listener moments—dropping tongue-in-cheek wisdom and rapid-fire wit along the way.
Time: 00:41–02:01
Time: 02:52–04:40
Time: 05:26–07:06
Time: 07:09–09:06
Time: 10:14–13:38
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Time: 20:00–22:34
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Time: 26:01–28:49
Time: 29:07–31:08
Time: 31:19–35:05
On their dynamic:
"You don’t know how I feel." (Phil, 01:54)
"This is gonna be exhibit C in the fevorce." (Dan, 02:08)
On authenticity:
"I just want to be my authentic self. I don’t want to be styled and molded by another person." (Phil, 17:39)
On the value of advice:
"If you’re a good friend, you’re gonna give your honest opinion. That’s the thing." (Phil, 25:13)
"You can always come back. Otherwise, we’re just gonna have this same conversation in a year." (Dan, 25:25)
On revisiting the past:
"If I could go back, I would have not done the hiatus." (Dan, 27:55)
"You are my project." (Phil, 27:39)
On affirmations:
"We are gay. You are gay. We do. If you are, that’s fine. You will get through this pod." (Dan & Phil, 34:12–34:16)
For more fan fiction live-dives and even deeper community Q&A, the pair promise more on Patreon. This episode is a blend of sweet, surreal, and undeniably Dan and Phil.