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Narrator/Advertiser
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Phil Lester
I'm not the same man that I used to be.
Dan Howell
I go down the stairs sideways.
Phil Lester
Go ahead. You in a rush. Go around.
Narrator/Advertiser
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Dan Howell
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Phil Lester
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Narrator/Advertiser
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Dan Howell
We have something sad to share with the Internet. After 16 years of the Dan and Phil relationship.
Phil Lester
I'm pregnant. No, wait. Why would that be sad?
Dan Howell
We have achieved mpreg much to the devastation of Tumblr.
Phil Lester
No, I don't know what you're gonna say.
Dan Howell
We went out for dinner the other night. Yeah, this is our new. We've hard launched. Maybe we can be seen in public.
Phil Lester
Yeah, dinner date.
Dan Howell
The problem was about an hour in, we ran out of conversation. I think we have had every chat that two people can have in a life together.
Phil Lester
Have we reached the end of conversation?
Dan Howell
And then Phil got out his phone and I was just sat there looking at some pasta and I just thought, how has this happened?
Phil Lester
Wait. Because we usually have dinner with other people. This is one of our first in ages together.
Dan Howell
We were roasted together.
Phil Lester
No, wait. I got on my phone for a secret reason.
Dan Howell
Cause you're a rude ass bitch. I've just given up on this marriage.
Phil Lester
What marriage? I had an idea in my head I didn't want to forget. And it was a little Christmas present for you. And I was like making sure that I remembered it.
Dan Howell
Oh. Because I got out my phone and I just started looking at reels.
Phil Lester
No.
Dan Howell
Wow, right? I thought we were doing that thing now I am the asshole. You are. You were buying me a surprise gift.
Phil Lester
Yes.
Dan Howell
I am so sorry.
Narrator/Advertiser
Wow.
Dan Howell
There was me thinking maybe we've gone full circle and actually a healthy relationship is when you can sit in complet. One of you is looking at TikTok, the other person's looking at reels.
Phil Lester
Maybe that is the enlightenment we've reached though.
Dan Howell
I'm so sorry.
Phil Lester
Yeah, well, you're not getting your gift now.
Dan Howell
What was the gift? What was so important that you had to interrupt the dinner?
Phil Lester
Yeah, it was a ball gag, so you'd stop interrupting me.
Dan Howell
Wait. Everybody shut up.
Phil Lester
Oh, it's the first of December time. It feels so, so clean. Having a podcast on the first day of clapping it.
Dan Howell
Clapping that, cheeks, clapping that. Monday, hard Mondays, hard December, hard Christmas.
Phil Lester
I love the 1st of December.
Dan Howell
You go hard for Christmas season.
Phil Lester
I am so hard for Christmas. So many festive possibilities. So many wondrous moments.
Dan Howell
You want to get out the tinsel. You want to get out the spice.
Phil Lester
Just pressing tinsel into my nose and giving it a big sniff.
Dan Howell
He's been holding it back, and now it's ready to crack.
Phil Lester
Honestly, I hate this already. I'm so happy we haven't got a.
Dan Howell
Tree yet, because we're just organized.
Phil Lester
No.
Dan Howell
And if you don't know, Phil for the last few years has got his tree delivered by a service that will bring a real Christmas tree to your house. But their branding is a man in a kilt will deliver your tree Mill. And Phil had a bit of a Karen incident last year because a man turned up that was obviously just a very grumpy dude with a transit van, and Phil was like, where's the ham?
Phil Lester
Where's the kilt? Where's the kilt?
Dan Howell
I paid 16 pound shipping, and I want to see toes.
Phil Lester
I don't think I was paying for the kilt, though.
Dan Howell
Not the tree and service.
Phil Lester
I wanted him to arrive all festive with his kilt.
Dan Howell
This is a problematic service where they are clearly sending men in kilts to board housewives.
Phil Lester
They're advertising it. I'm the bored housewife. I want the man in the kilt.
Dan Howell
They're advertising the service. You paid for the service. Where are the thighs?
Phil Lester
This year, I'm gonna open the door.
Dan Howell
In a kilt to assert dominance.
Phil Lester
Yes.
Dan Howell
If they don't, you're gonna do it for them.
Phil Lester
He's 1000% not gonna be wearing a kilt when it arrives. But we're ready for the tree to go up. And if it fails this time, another service. What else could it be?
Dan Howell
Like what?
Phil Lester
Someone dressed as Santa. Okay, someone dressed as a tree delivering the tree. I'd love that.
Dan Howell
I hate that.
Phil Lester
Really?
Narrator/Advertiser
Yeah.
Dan Howell
Someone right now is taking an edible and washing hard launch with Dan and Phil, and you're giving them some upsetting imagery.
Phil Lester
That's too much. There's also one where they plant it and then they take it back out into the wild and plant it again.
Dan Howell
You know that a scam. They're like, we will replant your tree. And then they just set it on fire.
Phil Lester
Into the shredder.
Dan Howell
Exactly. You're not checking, are you?
Phil Lester
Advent calendars. We've missed.
Dan Howell
It's 1st of December.
Phil Lester
I know. I was just thinking about it.
Dan Howell
Do you want to know something?
Phil Lester
What?
Dan Howell
I didn't bring it and I should have before this. I did get you an advent calendar.
Phil Lester
You got me an advent calendar?
Dan Howell
Yes.
Phil Lester
I'd be excited. Am I allowed to know what it is or no?
Dan Howell
Well, this is the thing, right? Phil can't have chocolate for dietary reasons, and that has just fucked the whole notion of.
Phil Lester
Oh, my gosh, the wonders are out there. If you could have any advent calendar, like, you could open anything in an advent calendar. What would you have? Like, what would you choose?
Dan Howell
If I could decide my own dream calendar.
Phil Lester
Well, I'm feeling pressure because I haven't bought you one, so I'm curious.
Dan Howell
It would be chips and dips. It would be. Shut the fuck up.
Phil Lester
It would be cold.
Dan Howell
I don't care. Microwave it.
Phil Lester
Okay.
Dan Howell
No, no, you gotta, like, cook it in an oven. You know, when they send you a hellofresh, you are not gonna sponsor this pod because fuck that shit. That's. They're like, you want to have hellofresh sponsor your podcast, you've got to make the food yourself. You've seen these twinks try to bake something.
Phil Lester
Dan, be careful.
Dan Howell
They might fuck up your brand. No, I'm hellofresh. If you're watching this, stop. Stay away from the Danifil podcast. We will set fire to it. We will make it look like dog food.
Phil Lester
Do you remember that, though? Clickety click. Micro chips. You could, like, get that. And then would you have different dips as well? What would Christmas Day be? Sriracha?
Dan Howell
The hell no. It would be like cranberry ketchup. Ooh, exactly.
Phil Lester
Cranberry ketchup.
Dan Howell
Cranberry mayo. Oh, yeah, not the mayo. Sage mayo.
Phil Lester
Sage, yeah. Okay.
Dan Howell
Pick some blanket mayo. Turkey mayo. This is now sounding like a disgusting.
Phil Lester
I mean, this sounds horrible. I'll try and find it for you. If not, I'll make it myself for you. I'll squeeze loads of different mayos together into a.
Dan Howell
Please do not do that.
Phil Lester
A cardboard door.
Dan Howell
What would your dream be?
Phil Lester
Oh, I think I would love.
Dan Howell
Yeah.
Phil Lester
Money. Just like 50 quid in each one.
Dan Howell
Wouldn't that be nice? Well, you're gonna need to find a sugar daddy because this Danny ain't gonna give it to you now. I'm super close. Hello. A spartane. Danny, over here.
Phil Lester
I just want to buy more labuboos and trinkets. No, what I could get.
Dan Howell
Have you seen any alternative calendars that you like, though? Because I see them all the time and it's like the face cream advent calendar. What happened to your soul? Did you used to experience joy as a child eating chocolate? You cannot have the hand cream advent calendar.
Phil Lester
Just lick the cream. I did see one, which was like a jigsaw puzzle. So you do a little jigsaw puzzle every day, and then it makes a big jigsaw at the end. What?
Dan Howell
And how do you feel about that?
Phil Lester
Yeah, that's what I want.
Dan Howell
I got you a jigsaw advertiser. Are you going? No.
Phil Lester
Oh, my.
Dan Howell
That's what I got you.
Phil Lester
Yay.
Dan Howell
We saw the same fucking Instagram advert.
Phil Lester
Probably. Sorry.
Dan Howell
Thank you, Mark Zuckerberg.
Phil Lester
That's gonna keep me busy.
Advertiser
Wow.
Dan Howell
If Phil Wright. I gave him a moment to tell me how he really thought, and if he went cringe, I'd have cried.
Phil Lester
Oh, my God. Wow. That's a nice little Christmas miracle, isn't it? You're witnessing joy. That's close. Joy to the world.
Dan Howell
Who's dead? The teacher.
Phil Lester
What teacher?
Dan Howell
Joy to the world. The teacher's dead.
Phil Lester
That's the Southern thing.
Dan Howell
You barbecued her head. How does it go? Am I lying right now?
Phil Lester
I don't know.
Dan Howell
What's up with children's rhymes not being. Absolutely.
Phil Lester
I feel like this might have been a Simpsons thing.
Dan Howell
Yeah, Nelson and the Simpsons.
Advertiser
Joy to the world.
Phil Lester
The teacher's dead. Wow.
Dan Howell
Were you even a child? Where's your, I don't know, 5 of Simpsons references?
Phil Lester
I was 43 when the Simpsons was on. Anyway, what are we wearing? Look at this. If you're listening to the podcast, we are wearing the most fashionable jumpers you've ever seen.
Dan Howell
You've ever seen in your entire life. And what does it say?
Phil Lester
Fantasyland with a ph.
Dan Howell
Is this a real place they can go to?
Phil Lester
We've got Little Danced World.
Dan Howell
Watch out, because guess who's opening a theme park in Qatar? Dan and Phil.
Phil Lester
No, we're not.
Dan Howell
I'm kidding.
Phil Lester
Stop it.
Dan Howell
Where's the oofsa? Where's the fucking oofsa Oofs?
Phil Lester
Okay, it's got little purple Dan and Phil cherubs with our hair, a little mullet on the cherub and star. Wait, star sleeves?
Dan Howell
50. 50. Almost. Yeah.
Phil Lester
So if you want to get an.
Dan Howell
Asymmetrical, whimsical sweater, I love it.
Phil Lester
If you want to get this? It's on danandphilshop.com, but not only that. My children.
Dan Howell
We are presenting the dan and Phil 2026 fantasy calendar with a pH.
Phil Lester
It's beautiful.
Dan Howell
Such a work of art. Literally.
Phil Lester
Our friends PJ and Sophie have worked so hard helping us make this calendar.
Dan Howell
We have recreated 12 months of iconic fantasy tropes out of cardboard.
Phil Lester
Phil as a princess. Dan is a knight.
Dan Howell
That's a metaph. Everything in this relationship. What passenger?
Phil Lester
I'm not a passenger person.
Dan Howell
Having a lovely time in the castle.
Phil Lester
And this is what my makeup was for when we were fairies.
Dan Howell
You served glam fairy like Phil. Spin it around. There's one more.
Phil Lester
Oh, no. That's too much.
Dan Howell
Transhuman future in a cyberpunk reality. Phil is going to put his body in a toaster.
Phil Lester
I cannot wait. Sorry. My dogs are out on the month of May.
Dan Howell
You're selling people your pay gating toe?
Phil Lester
Yeah.
Dan Howell
Damn.
Phil Lester
Buy my toes if you want.
Dan Howell
12 fantastic, beautiful images of Phil, and I am also there. You can go to danandphilshop.com and all these other regional variations to get a calendar or a sweater.
Phil Lester
Thank you to anyone that sponsors and grabs one. I can't wait to stare at you from your wall.
Dan Howell
You made it weird. I've got another gift for you, actually.
Phil Lester
Oh, my God. This is a great day.
Listener/Caller
What?
Phil Lester
What? Here we go.
Dan Howell
It's the gift of fire.
Phil Lester
Oh, my God, that is so heavy. Why you give me a fire extinguisher?
Dan Howell
What do you mean, why?
Phil Lester
I am.
Dan Howell
Have you seen this shit?
Phil Lester
I am prepared.
Dan Howell
Do you trust yourself with the wires? Having Phil in a room with so many lights is like having a hamster behind your vinyl player. For anyone listening, I have just dropped a massive metal cylinder. That sound strange? It's a fire extinguisher.
Phil Lester
I didn't realize fire extinguishers were so heavy.
Dan Howell
You're cradling that like a baby. Are you okay?
Phil Lester
Shall I squeeze it?
Dan Howell
No, that might be lies.
Phil Lester
What about this?
Dan Howell
You got to assemble it, Phil. Otherwise we're all gonna die. This is your escape room.
Phil Lester
Where do you insert this?
Dan Howell
I'm scared. Okay, maybe put that.
Phil Lester
Oh, I found it. I found it. Did the water come out of this bit? Okay, what we need to do is go on a fire safety course. That's what I'm learning. It's really pressing into my testicle. Wait.
Dan Howell
Oh. Testicle lore bomb.
Phil Lester
The other one's on the other side. Too much information. We take it away.
Dan Howell
You fucking take it away.
Phil Lester
Stand Up.
Dan Howell
Oh, my God. Do a workout.
Phil Lester
Help.
Dan Howell
Okay, Layla, help. Thank you.
Phil Lester
It's really heavy.
Dan Howell
We have producers in order to help fill.
Phil Lester
No.
Dan Howell
I should have warned you. That is savage. Now you've got a bit of hose on the floor.
Phil Lester
Oh, my God. She said my hose is out.
Dan Howell
Home safety.
Phil Lester
I don't like that gift.
Dan Howell
Okay, well, that was your main Christmas, so. Fuck me, I guess.
Phil Lester
I once made a board game in graphics class called the Home Safety Game.
Advertiser
What?
Phil Lester
And the picture of it was just a house on fire and you had to navigate your way around the house trying to save your belongings while your family was.
Dan Howell
Isn't the whole point that you should not be trying to save any of your belongings and you should, in fact, prioritize the family or maybe yourself?
Phil Lester
So I got marked down for that reason because you're not meant to go back in the house. Okay, secondly, on everything, I wrote Homestead Safdie game because I spelt it wrong, which is not great if you're gcse. Big oof.
Dan Howell
English language and linguistics is what you decided to go to university for, though it is.
Phil Lester
And I cannot spell nor read. But seriously, if this room was on fire, would you save me or would you just run out?
Dan Howell
Bitch, I'm barrel rolling out the window. Save yourself before you save others.
Phil Lester
That's the air mask on a plane.
Dan Howell
What is the point in me getting a life insurance policy on you unless I can use it?
Phil Lester
My arm's burning. I'm under the log. It's all falling down. Richard, he's melting onto my knee.
Dan Howell
The log.
Phil Lester
Log.
Dan Howell
Yeah.
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Dan Howell
Well, speaking of men visiting the house, this is me going back to the kilt incident.
Phil Lester
I like speaking about other men.
Dan Howell
Phil has made a concerted effort to speak to the Builders. I have in the house.
Phil Lester
I've tried harder.
Dan Howell
After a lot of shaming, I did see a comment from someone saying that you are abb.
Phil Lester
What's abb?
Dan Howell
Assigned bottom by builders. Which might be a hate crime, but it's factual, so I agree.
Phil Lester
No, I'm not taking that. Who said that? Rowan' Chronic Crafts.
Dan Howell
Yeah.
Phil Lester
You liked it on the account as well.
Dan Howell
I did, I did.
Phil Lester
Right. I'm gonna go on a liking spree about you.
Dan Howell
I ruined that. No, absolutely.
Phil Lester
I've been trying hard to do it, but the problem is, Dan, they think I'm the. I keep saying the wife, which is problematic.
Dan Howell
No, you're not bottom. Yeah, it's fine.
Phil Lester
Okay.
Dan Howell
Just be problematic in a different way.
Phil Lester
That is also problematic, someone being a bottom.
Dan Howell
But you're allowed to be problematic, Dan.
Phil Lester
Not that I'm saying anything about them. My sexual choices. Dan is making me be the bad cop with the builders.
Dan Howell
That is so true.
Phil Lester
Because I'm the.
Dan Howell
I am not making you. You are the bad cop. I am the dreamer and you are the crusher. Dan has our dynamic.
Phil Lester
Dan has a cracked out idea.
Dan Howell
Like, I have an inspired interior design vision.
Phil Lester
Yes.
Dan Howell
And then Phil comes in with the. He's not.
Phil Lester
Yes.
Dan Howell
And he's very. No, no, we can't.
Phil Lester
Like, we're having a moon forest themed office, which is already quite.
Dan Howell
We're plastering the walls.
Phil Lester
We're plastering the walls in a moon forest theme.
Dan Howell
Not in that way. Am I right, ladies?
Phil Lester
And then.
Dan Howell
I don't know what that means.
Phil Lester
What? And then Dan's like, what if we plastered the ceiling and the floor and made it anti grass?
Dan Howell
I did not say the floor.
Phil Lester
Well, I don't know. Something like that.
Dan Howell
We have some beams in our living room that are holding up the ceiling. And I said, these have been painted white when this house was built. Boring. Let's plaster them with something textural. And then Phil said, no, it's going to look too busy.
Phil Lester
Well, I'm saying you're.
Dan Howell
I was walking around with the guy and he was going, yeah, yeah, I think that could be really cool. Yeah, we could do that. And I'm like, yeah, yeah, yeah. And then Phil just goes, no, from the other side of the room.
Phil Lester
I don't think you should.
Dan Howell
So I think you are just a bad cop.
Phil Lester
I am the bad cop of reasonableness when it comes to plastering everything in the house. You're gonna plaster the kettle. Gonna plaster the plaster box in the first aid kit.
Dan Howell
Acab, a bbb.
Phil Lester
No. So I think they now not Only find me to be less than Dan. They also find me more annoying. Cause I keep saying more annoying. Don't do that.
Dan Howell
But you know, in like a Bridgerton way, maybe on like a below deck sense when there's like a hot MILF on the boat and then all the people are like, damn, should I break all the rules? Should I risk it all to sleep with the charter guest? Maybe because you're just so dainty and fleeting. They're all going home in chain smoke and thinking about, have you seen the fucking thick ass?
Phil Lester
Yeah. What you don't know is when you were out of the shops, when he.
Dan Howell
Stood on those Minecraft pajamas. Damn.
Phil Lester
When you were at the shops the other day, I got the pink booty shorts out and I was just like cleaning the side of the kitchen. Hello, boys.
Dan Howell
I'm just checking. That is a joke. It's not a joke, but it is actually. No, but to confirm you are actually joking and you didn't pretend to clean the kitchen in booty shorts.
Phil Lester
I feel like they would write a report about me if I did that.
Dan Howell
100%.
Phil Lester
They did bitch about me on the ring doorbell as well. I heard that.
Dan Howell
Cause Phil is not only a bad cop, he's also a snooping peepee pervert. I'm not a no.
Phil Lester
Because it's like someone visited your house and I just confess.
Dan Howell
There is a camera Phil will listen to.
Phil Lester
Yeah. And they say we get so much more work done if his boyfriend didn't stop telling us to do shit. Um, I can hear you. No, I can't say that.
Dan Howell
Shit.
Phil Lester
Sorry.
Dan Howell
We need the actual government name. Send the box back. Because we accidentally doxed someone on the pod. Leave them alone.
Phil Lester
I'm just going to be neutral.
Listener/Caller
Mm.
Phil Lester
And not change who I am. They can judge me all they want. They can think I'm a decorator bottom or whatever you said.
Dan Howell
I am just the soft Ariana and you're actually the brave Cynthia Erivo that would come in to save me.
Phil Lester
To save. Yes, that's what it is.
Dan Howell
Yeah.
Phil Lester
That press tour for Wicked has been wild again, hasn't it?
Dan Howell
You know what? One of my. We're keeping that in.
Phil Lester
Oh, my God.
Dan Howell
Sometimes I'm just so excited to speak.
Phil Lester
Anyone listening is just like, oh, yeah.
Dan Howell
Everyone who could see that. It made it so much better.
Phil Lester
Dan just got possessed. Possessed by an orangutan.
Dan Howell
The soil ring is back.
Phil Lester
Can we take Orambe off Christmas?
Dan Howell
This is wicked green.
Phil Lester
No, it's making you weird. There we go.
Dan Howell
Okay, we're back.
Phil Lester
Calming purple. What Was your favorite thing, I think, is what you were saying.
Dan Howell
My hot take. Let people be weird.
Phil Lester
Yeah.
Dan Howell
A lot of people on the Internet have gone way too deep into, you know how everyone thinks all conspiracy theorists out there go, celebrities are lizard people.
Phil Lester
Yes.
Dan Howell
They're not just quirky, they're actually reptilian robots that are here to indoctrinate us us into a cult and kill us all in our sleep. Yeah. Well, are Cynthia and Ariana not allowed to just be a bit kooky without being lizard people or may or may not eat you?
Phil Lester
It makes it interesting.
Dan Howell
I think half the time they're doing a bit. I think people can't tell when people just have in jokes and are having fun with each other.
Phil Lester
Yes.
Dan Howell
But a lot of stuff that's been taken out of context as well. There was a Facebook post on a satirical Onion style page that just makes up fake news stories that said Cynthia has announced that they're in a non demi curious semi binary relationship.
Phil Lester
Oh my God.
Dan Howell
Which obviously makes no fucking sense and is silly. But conservatives on the Internet, no media literacy. They're just like, oh my God, it's true. Woke has gone too far.
Phil Lester
Oh no.
Dan Howell
This is the sign that western civilization is falling.
Phil Lester
They just wish they were in a non demi curious, semi binary relationship.
Dan Howell
Exactly. The thing is that if you have a degree in woke, which I do, unfortunately from spending a lot of time on Twitter and Tumblr, that doesn't make any sense. Like demi is when you feel like you have to have a strong emotional connection to someone in order to feel a sexual attraction.
Phil Lester
Okay.
Dan Howell
So if you are like demi curious, it means like I'm curious in wanting to feel more emotional. But if you're non demi curious, it means I'm open to just being really horny.
Phil Lester
Right.
Dan Howell
And I love that. And semi binary. I'm not non binary and I don't respect the binary. It's like I kind of like gender, but just like a bit.
Phil Lester
Do you know who is in a non demi curious, semi binary relationship?
Dan Howell
Us.
Phil Lester
Trump and Mamdani.
Dan Howell
Oh my God.
Phil Lester
Take that tension conservatives.
Dan Howell
AO3. Where is it?
Phil Lester
We are as well.
Dan Howell
You can call me a fascist if you want.
Phil Lester
Oh my God. Too far.
Dan Howell
I'm at the despot.
Phil Lester
We shouldn't talk about fascism.
Dan Howell
Show me the despussy. Despacito.
Phil Lester
Keep going. I thought we could have a little segment for this show.
Dan Howell
Yeah. Called Cause we need structure desperately.
Phil Lester
No, no, no. A few times we've touched on strange things in the news. So I thought we could have Phil's Weird news story of the week, maybe.
Dan Howell
Yeah, Fair enough.
Phil Lester
I like that you like that I.
Dan Howell
Was about to condescendingly call you babe and say this whole goddamn podcast is non stop strange news.
Advertiser
What?
Phil Lester
Like in a condescending no, babe.
Dan Howell
Well, this is the debate on the Internet. A lot of people. I was being sarcastic to you about your shoe being pink the other day.
Phil Lester
Oh, yeah.
Dan Howell
Thank God you're not wearing a reflective surface today. The confusion was real, and people really could not, whether in our hard launch era, if we're just really comfortable letting out the pet names or if I was being a sarcastic twat.
Phil Lester
The thing is, it's very British to call each other babe in a sarcastic way. Like, no, babe, you're doing it wrong. And I think you were being a sarcastic.
Dan Howell
No, honey. You stupid bint. And that is very us.
Phil Lester
That was very us.
Dan Howell
And this is the thing. Do we farm the impressions of the parasocial? I wanna get on Dan and Phil's relationship vibe and let it be mysterious. Or do we confirm that I'm actually miserable?
Phil Lester
Everyone knows you're just miserable, Tudor Rose. That's too niche. We're talking about my weird news segment, which I feel like you've pushed us away from.
Dan Howell
Phil, do you know what this is?
Phil Lester
What?
Dan Howell
You're bringing back Internet news.
Phil Lester
Oh, my gosh.
Dan Howell
Which was the segment on our Radio one and also my damn channel. Super Amazing Project series.
Phil Lester
This is better. This is new and fresh, and it's gonna have a name and a title card.
Dan Howell
Phil just wants to be like, I read some shit about a squirrel that ate a child.
Phil Lester
Do you know what my favorite thing is? To be like, have you seen that? And you're like, w. I never thought that could happen.
Dan Howell
Joy. Yeah. Are you informed on the economy? No, but do you know what that flamingo did?
Phil Lester
Who needs to know how taxes work? Why don't we call it Lester's Lowdown? Ooh, that's. What do you think? The fuse with a ph.
Dan Howell
Yeah. The scoop. The foup.
Phil Lester
The f News.
Dan Howell
Oh, no. We'll workshop this.
Phil Lester
We'll think about it.
Dan Howell
If Phil wants to do a weird Internet news segment, what can he call it? That's not the foop.
Phil Lester
Let us know and we'll make a title card soon that's exciting me.
Dan Howell
You say we. You're gonna ask our graphics designer, James, to go away. We. He says, the royal We.
Phil Lester
The royal we.
Dan Howell
We built the set. We did the graphics.
Phil Lester
Thank you.
Dan Howell
We edit the video.
Phil Lester
We love James. So here's the thing, which I'm not saying anymore.
Dan Howell
Do a shot.
Phil Lester
Today's weird news is in North Carolina, someone almost crashed their car when an eagle dropped a dead cat through their windscreen.
Dan Howell
A cat?
Phil Lester
Yes.
Dan Howell
A cat fell out of the sky.
Phil Lester
Because an eagle got it. A bald eagle.
Dan Howell
Yeah. And it's insecure about its male ego. What?
Phil Lester
Cause it's bald.
Dan Howell
It's okay, man. Sometimes you just need to call it, shave it off and you're beautiful.
Phil Lester
Some of the hottest people are bald.
Dan Howell
Patrick Stewart.
Phil Lester
Yeah, Patrick Stewart.
Dan Howell
Why are you laughing? You wouldn't.
Phil Lester
I would.
Dan Howell
Yeah.
Phil Lester
You've seen the old pictures of Star Trek in his little tight uniform.
Dan Howell
Forget Jonathan Bailey's slutty little glasses. Patrick Stewart's slutty little space shirt.
Phil Lester
So imagine that though. We're just driving. I'm driving. Get back the freeway.
Narrator/Advertiser
Yep.
Phil Lester
A cat comes through our windshield.
Dan Howell
Yep.
Phil Lester
What do you do?
Dan Howell
I would say, God, we know that Phil shouldn't have been driving and this is your divine punishment. And I'm sorry they had to kill someone's cat for this, but message received.
Phil Lester
Also very sad that happened to a cat. Yeah, we love cats.
Dan Howell
Unless it was an evil cat. I'm just kidding. There are no evil cats. Because we love.
Phil Lester
We love cats. I'm only meant to do one, but because it's a new segment, I got excited.
Dan Howell
Oh, go on.
Phil Lester
There is a race to rescue London's hairy snail.
Dan Howell
Is that what they call you? Is that what the builders call you?
Advertiser
Yeah.
Dan Howell
He doesn't move. And that wig, that, that blonde wig, it's everywhere.
Phil Lester
It's going all over the place.
Dan Howell
So Rich, tell me about the important conservation.
Phil Lester
There's a micro hairy snail in London and we're making a concerted effort to preserve it, to protect it because it's so rare.
Dan Howell
Street team.
Phil Lester
That's the news.
Dan Howell
Snail defense squad. But they went from bald eagle to hairy snail.
Phil Lester
Yeah.
Dan Howell
The message there is whether you're a. That's losing it all or someone out there that goes, I don't want to shave my legs. It's winter. That's valid.
Phil Lester
And we will conserve you in the snail world. Do you think that's like the hottest snail though?
Dan Howell
They're just like 100% Bush.
Phil Lester
Wow, he's preened that snail bush. I want to snuggle up to that in my little slime cave.
Dan Howell
It would be warm. Yeah. Don't say slime cave like that again.
Phil Lester
If I was a snail, I'd want a mate that's hairy like that.
Dan Howell
That's worse than a subjectifying Patrick Stewart. I think well, thank you for the first ever foup.
Phil Lester
It's not the foop.
Dan Howell
The fuse.
Phil Lester
The fuse.
Dan Howell
Phil Lester's. What was your idea?
Phil Lester
Low down. Phil Lester's lowdown. Wow. Let's move on.
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Phil Lester
Our buddies relatable who send us a whole bunch of board games have today sent us incoherent, which we've played before on the channel.
Dan Howell
This game is horrible. This is a game all about tricking you into saying something nasty by reading out some innocent words that will spell out something very embarrassing.
Phil Lester
We're about to say some filth. So thank you for sponsoring us, lads.
Dan Howell
People have requested that we do this because of a infamous clip where Phil unfortunately read the phrase anal fisting.
Phil Lester
Oh, my God. Anal fisting. Fish sting. No, we're not even saying the answer. That is I say no, you're given a gibberish sentence which if you say it out loud is going to sound very much like something. You've got to guess what it is.
Dan Howell
Yes. After Phil wouldn't tell me whether he did or not expose booty shorts to the builders, you could say that Dan has gum.
Phil Lester
Hit mint issues. Gum in mint issues. Come in my shoes.
Dan Howell
Oh, my God.
Advertiser
Phil.
Dan Howell
Commitment issues after the builders.
Phil Lester
Yeah.
Dan Howell
I thought these boots were hard to put on.
Phil Lester
Oh, my God.
Dan Howell
Oh, my God. There's a white stain on my shoes. Is that dry hair shampoo?
Phil Lester
This is filth.
Dan Howell
And whose fault is that? Phil, it doesn't have to be like this.
Phil Lester
Okay.
Dan Howell
Game. Wasn't that so?
Phil Lester
I don't get a point.
Dan Howell
I'm ready.
Phil Lester
Yeah.
Listener/Caller
Yeah.
Dan Howell
Ew. Know what? Dimes. Hey, Ink. Ew know what dimes. Hey, ink.
Phil Lester
Come on, faster.
Dan Howell
Ew. Know what dimes hate, ink. Oh, something Twink. You know what dimes. It's time for the twinks. No, no.
Phil Lester
One more second. Ew.
Dan Howell
Know what dimes hate, ink.
Phil Lester
You know what I'm saying?
Dan Howell
Oh, shit. Was that personally targeted at me?
Advertiser
Yes.
Dan Howell
Paper cup.
Phil Lester
Let's do some of the red ones. What are they?
Dan Howell
Ah, the intentionally dirty ones. You've been warned.
Phil Lester
Here we go. How do you feel about this?
Dan Howell
I'm locked in. Less some ache. Paybays. Less some ache paybays. Less. Less some ache. Let's make paybays.
Phil Lester
Do you want to say what is a paybay? Say it quicker.
Dan Howell
Let's make. Hey, pays. Let's. Let's make paybays. Let her make paybays. I sound like Moira Rose.
Phil Lester
Yeah, David.
Dan Howell
Let her make paypes. Let's make babies.
Phil Lester
Let's make babies.
Dan Howell
Why did that help me get it?
Phil Lester
Dan, I'm in heat.
Dan Howell
If you don't speak full Catherine o', Hara, you will never be good at this game. Okay.
Phil Lester
Are you in heat? What?
Dan Howell
I'm just not gonna listen to you.
Phil Lester
Omegaverse.
Dan Howell
I don't want you to read this.
Phil Lester
Lorncand the thick lawn. Can thi. The hick. Lorncantha hick. Long. Cantha hick Thick. Thick. Long and thick.
Dan Howell
Ew. You get it.
Phil Lester
What's long and thick, but at what cost?
Dan Howell
The lava lamp.
Phil Lester
Yes. The fire extinguisher. That's more just like thick.
Dan Howell
Yeah, yeah. Short and thick.
Phil Lester
Let's do some fan ones.
Dan Howell
So this game is so infamous with our audience that people decided to turn niche Dan and Phil references into cards, which was made by Fletthereck, D and P. Stephen Scraggy and Mothman Bussey.
Phil Lester
Mothman Busy. So this is Dan and Phil themed Incoherent they've made.
Dan Howell
If you get this, you've got problems.
Phil Lester
Your brain has cooked.
Dan Howell
Phil.
Phil Lester
Chai hildove pivors. Chiel hildub pivors.
Dan Howell
Yeah.
Phil Lester
Child. Hilb dub. Child of. Child of fevorse.
Dan Howell
Yes, you are a child of fevors. After this podcast episode.
Phil Lester
No more Fevorse. Now.
Dan Howell
Child of farage.
Phil Lester
Nigel Farage. Oh, here we go.
Dan Howell
Toot days spun ser nor VPN. Today's sponsor is NordVPN. That's funny because it's.
Phil Lester
It's not.
Dan Howell
But if you want to sponsor the.
Phil Lester
Pod, get on the pod.
Dan Howell
There's a lot of content real estate here.
Phil Lester
We love it.
Dan Howell
Okay.
Phil Lester
Dafee Eel. Dafi. Daffee. Dafeel the feel.
Dan Howell
It's the feel.
Phil Lester
It's the feel.
Dan Howell
Why did we get that so quick?
Phil Lester
So thank you for sponsoring us. If you want to grab the game, we'll put it in the description.
Dan Howell
It's always a good time.
Phil Lester
And play your grandma.
Dan Howell
Do it.
Phil Lester
It's good for Christmas.
Dan Howell
It is good for Christmas. Just whack it out. No. Speaking of, they also have specifically sent us an NSFW box, which promises to be even worse.
Phil Lester
We can't play on YouTube, but we are gonna do some on the Patreon if you wanna come and see us say some disgusting things.
Dan Howell
That's a threat. Okay, confirmed. Dan and Phil's Patreon bonus episode is gonna be not safe for work.
Phil Lester
That's patreon.com dan and Phil, if you wanna join the club. Feel like we need Richard after that.
Dan Howell
Yeah.
Phil Lester
Give us a topic, Rich.
Dan Howell
Save the day.
Phil Lester
Duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh.
Dan Howell
Did you just John Cena, everybody?
Phil Lester
I did.
Dan Howell
Oh, my God. There's loads of loose balls on the table.
Phil Lester
What does it mean on the Patreon? You guys have been filling Richard's balls and we're gonna add some into the mix.
Dan Howell
Thank you for submitting the questions that Richard could release on any given day. Oh, my God. You scalped him. Phil, you gotta stir it up. Otherwise it's rigged. Yeah, don't. Just put the red one near the bottom. Oh, excellent ball swirling. Phil, it's not your first rodeo.
Phil Lester
Are we ready?
Dan Howell
Crank it, Phil. Oh, yeah. Will it already be a fresh viewer submitted ball? Let's find out. Respectfully. Wheel.
Phil Lester
Wheel. Anyway, out of shot. It's a pink one. Yep. Ready for a smooth crack?
Dan Howell
No. Wow, that was anti climactic.
Phil Lester
Didn't make a noise. It was silent. It just says Australia. The concept of Australia.
Dan Howell
That's fucked up.
Phil Lester
What? I love Australia.
Dan Howell
We do love Australia. We've never had a bad time in Australia.
Phil Lester
I feel like this whole section should be in Australian, mate.
Dan Howell
We're gonna talk as if we've got a little cheeky brizzy accent.
Phil Lester
Little cheeky brizzy.
Dan Howell
Yeah.
Phil Lester
So hectic. So hectic.
Dan Howell
Danny, it's gonna be heckers.
Phil Lester
Oh, heckers.
Dan Howell
We're gonna talk about it. It's gonna be hectic. Deeply hectic. It's gonna be hectic. But let's stop that for real.
Phil Lester
Bugs.
Dan Howell
I actually haven't seen any traumatizing, reptilian or arachnid killers on my trips down under. And I'm grateful for that. Although I feel like the universe is just building up the moment where I'm gonna have one super bad experience.
Phil Lester
Think how many are close to you at any given moment, just waiting to scorpion over your stomach.
Dan Howell
You mean Australians or bugs? Where's the nearest Australian? They're gonna crawl all over my stomach.
Phil Lester
It's a bogan.
Dan Howell
I mean, Australians are pretty healthy.
Phil Lester
My favorite Australian is Kylie Minogue.
Dan Howell
Okay. In fact, you got ready to go.
Phil Lester
I met her at a strange YouTube thing where they were like, surprise, everyone. Kylie Minogue is here and you're making a video with her. And we had no real planning time.
Dan Howell
No.
Phil Lester
And I did a little Australia.
Dan Howell
She was lovely.
Phil Lester
She was so nice and fun.
Dan Howell
What? Celebrities aren't nice? Sorry. I just really wanted to put the fear of God in to film drama. Spill the tea. No, don't. That's okay.
Phil Lester
I would not tell you.
Dan Howell
No confirmed night. What would we have to do in order to get you to actually release the Phil shit list?
Phil Lester
It would be on some horrible, unique.
Dan Howell
Clickbait that someone, one of you would walk up to them and be like, phil said this about you on the podcast.
Phil Lester
Kylie remembered me with the Brits. Red carpet. She's like, oh, Phil.
Dan Howell
Oh, my God.
Phil Lester
Oh, my God. Is that Phil Made my heart sing.
Dan Howell
Oh, you thought you were gonna say sink, then no good. Saved it. I think that Australian people have, like, the healthy glow of people that live in California and the sense of humor of British people.
Phil Lester
They're a great combination.
Dan Howell
Apex predators.
Phil Lester
If I wasn't dating you, I might date an Australian.
Dan Howell
I respect that 100%. Yeah, agreed. Okay, Australians, you passed the FIL.
Phil Lester
Yeah.
Dan Howell
Fuck a ball with a ph test.
Phil Lester
I'm on the lookout for a blonde surfer. Oh, okay, Richard, why don't we get some hard launches from some other people?
Dan Howell
Oh, yeah, please. This is when we.
Advertiser
Ew.
Phil Lester
Ew. That was really horrible. Sorry.
Dan Howell
This is the part of the podcast where we get you involved to experience the freedom and confidence that explains our behavior by getting things off your chest. Who do we have today?
Listener/Caller
Hello, my name is Willa. I'm from Kentucky. I'm in the US and my hard launch is that women should be allowed to be topless in the same places that men are. Women's boobs are there for the purpose of being able to feed the young should they choose to go that route. Men, it's just there for looks, and that makes them decorative and more of a sexual accessory for attraction, in my opinion.
Phil Lester
I agree.
Dan Howell
That is what causes it.
Phil Lester
Everyone needs to get their boobs out. I agree. It needs to be less of a stigmatized thing. It's not fair, especially at, like, a water park. Oh. Just want to let it out on the beach.
Dan Howell
Yeah.
Phil Lester
That's why Europe is pretty good, because you can get a lot of, you know, bits out, bits out on the beach. No one really cares. We're quite chill about that.
Dan Howell
Do you wish we went to more nudist holidays?
Phil Lester
No.
Dan Howell
So you personally don't want to, but.
Phil Lester
Hey, good for you.
Dan Howell
You know, the sign of a true giving person. You want to free other people's nipples whilst also preserving your own.
Phil Lester
I'd go to, like, an onsen in Japan and get my wang out. I just think, like, I wouldn't want to rub my areas on a Sandy beach, particularly 100%. It already gets in there anyway.
Dan Howell
Freedom for everybody, but no sand in the crack.
Phil Lester
Yeah.
Dan Howell
Next.
Narrator/Advertiser
Next.
Phil Lester
Free the nipple.
Listener/Caller
My name is Sarah from the Scottish Highlands.
Dan Howell
Hi.
Listener/Caller
And I'm hard launching that. No one in England or Wales can call themselves northern. Oh, you can be from the north of Wales or the north of England, but if you aren't from, I'd say Glasgow and above, you're not northern.
Phil Lester
Oh, that is controversial.
Dan Howell
I am not qualified to weigh in on this discourse. Are you saying that Philip speak for the people?
Phil Lester
Saying that to a northerner? Can you believe it?
Dan Howell
Oh, are you, though?
Phil Lester
I am northern. Are you? Yeah.
Dan Howell
Unless you live on the North Pole, you are appropriating north culture. Did a polar bear send this in? I think not. Inauthentic.
Phil Lester
I think anything below Manchester.
Dan Howell
Oh, Manchester happens to be the cutoff.
Phil Lester
No, I'm kidding.
Dan Howell
I wonder why.
Phil Lester
I don't think Birmingham is in the north. So you've got to go above Birmingham. You're like, in the middle zone. True north. Manchester and above. I'm sorry, we wouldn't talk like this if we weren't from the west.
Dan Howell
I love that this whole conversation is rooted in a mutual disrespect for southerners, which I understand.
Phil Lester
We don't want to be like you, actually get out of our minds.
Dan Howell
I'm offended about how you speak about your own people sometimes.
Phil Lester
Next.
Listener/Caller
Hi, my name is Savannah. I am a relatively new fanny from the United States. I'm so sorry. Shout out to my best friend August for getting me into Dan and Phil.
Phil Lester
Shout out.
Listener/Caller
And I'm here to hard launch that. I think my mother should divorce her stupid fucking husband who doesn't do a goddamn thing. He is a man child and he infuriates me. I don't even care. I'll name drop him. Fuck you, Jeff. All my homies hate you. Okay, thank you. Bye.
Phil Lester
Oh my God. Jeff.
Dan Howell
This is just the name drop episode. Fuck you, Jeff. Jeff, pick up a dish.
Phil Lester
Stop being a man child.
Dan Howell
Hell yeah. Hard launch. Jeff, out the window. Yeah, don't. We don't condone violence.
Phil Lester
No, no violence.
Dan Howell
Hey, this is your safe space to get things off your chest like that. Okay. You know we can't give you advice for how to manage the dynamics of the relationships in your life, but if you just want to say, hey, Dan and Phil, can I talk mad shit? Absolutely.
Phil Lester
Talk mad shit.
Dan Howell
That's all he does.
Phil Lester
We can be your therapy. Just hopefully they won't listen to the podcast.
Dan Howell
The Jeff demo is rising.
Phil Lester
Yeah. Thank you. If you want to submit any of your hard launches, it is hardlaunchpodcastmail.com and.
Dan Howell
We have been that there is one more that is really worth listening to but would get demonetized on YouTube.
Phil Lester
So get on Patreon if you want to join in with the after party.
Dan Howell
Scared? The question is people listening? Back in two years. Sorry, this is going to be inappropriate. Are we going to get tinselly? Are we going to do a Christmas episode in a couple of weeks? Not yet.
Phil Lester
Not yet.
Dan Howell
Not yet.
Phil Lester
We're generating. You've got the tingles, the tingly tinsel vibes.
Dan Howell
Absolutely. And you're already dressed like a frickin elf or something.
Phil Lester
Hey, I'm trying something new. I don't usually wear colored pants.
Dan Howell
This is me being festive.
Phil Lester
I was feeling a little bit self conscious.
Dan Howell
Did we double corduroy?
Phil Lester
Yeah, Corduroy boys.
Dan Howell
We didn't mean to do this Corduroy.
Phil Lester
Boys in the chat. Thanks for joining us for Hard Launch today. If you want to listen to more of us, yap, head over to Patreon. If not, we will see you next week for another hard Monday.
Dan Howell
Bye.
Advertiser
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Listener/Caller
Could you be more specific?
Advertiser
When it's craving convenient.
Listener/Caller
Okay.
Advertiser
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Dan Howell
Second at a.m. p. M. I'm seeing a pattern here.
Advertiser
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Dan Howell
Which is anything from AM PM what.
Advertiser
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Episode: "We tried to have a romantic dinner date"
Release Date: December 1, 2025
Hosts: Dan Howell & Phil Lester
Studio: Studio71
In this lively and irreverent episode, Dan and Phil recount their attempt at a romantic dinner date, only to discover the comedic pitfalls of spending 16 years together. The episode devolves (as intended) into a candid discussion of relationship dynamics, holiday rituals, alternative advent calendars, home renovation drama, internet news oddities, and fan interactions. With their characteristic banter, Dan and Phil overshare with gleeful abandon, providing listeners with hilarious, sometimes touching, always chaotic insights into their lives.
Timestamps: 01:00–02:40
Dinner Date Disappointment:
Healthy Silence in Relationships:
Timestamps: 02:40–06:30
1st of December Vibes:
Advent Calendar Dilemma:
Timestamps: 09:40–12:13
Timestamps: 13:00–16:48
Builder Interactions:
Builder Gossip:
Timestamps: 17:01–19:32
Wicked Press Tour & Internet Conspiracies:
Meta-Commentary on Internet Culture:
Timestamps: 20:56–24:11
Timestamps: 25:30–29:24
“Incoherent” Game:
Patreon Bonus:
Timestamps: 30:00–33:02
Timestamps: 33:13–36:53
Caller 1: Willa (Kentucky) — Free the Nipple
Caller 2: Sarah (Scottish Highlands) — Who Counts as ‘Northern’
Caller 3: Savannah (USA) — ‘Fuck You, Jeff’
Timestamps: 37:09–37:49
The tone throughout is playful, self-deprecating, and candid, with Dan and Phil bouncing off each other's quips, never shying from the absurd or the intimate. Their long-shared history is front and center, making the podcast feel both inclusive and gloriously unfiltered.
This episode is an excellent example of Dan and Phil’s ability to turn the mundane into comedy gold—whether it’s the awkwardness of long-term relationships, disappointment over a Christmas tree delivery, or an escalating argument about who is the “bad cop” in their home. The mix of personal anecdotes, fan participation, and satirical commentaries—punctuated by their signature British banter—captures everything that makes HARD LAUNCH so bingeable.
If you want even more chaotic energy, filthy board game shenanigans, or unfiltered hard launches, check out their Patreon for bonus segments and after-parties.