HardLore Podcast Episode Summary: "Day in Chicago with HARMS WAY, THE KILLER & HOLD MY OWN"

Release Date: July 31, 2025

Introduction: A Day Exploring Chicago's Hardcore Scene

Hosted by Colin Young and Bo Lueders, the episode takes listeners on an immersive journey through Chicago's vibrant hardcore, punk, and metal scenes. The hosts meet with notable guests Shane Merrill from The Killer and Eli from Hold My Own, delving deep into the history, evolution, and personal anecdotes that shape the local music landscape.

Reconnecting with Chicago Hardcore: An Interview with Shane Merrill (00:40 – 09:10)

Shane Merrill reminisces about the early days of Chicago hardcore in the mid-90s, highlighting the prominence of vegan straight-edge bands like Earth Crisis.

Shane Merrill (02:14): "When I first got into it, there was definitely way more vegan, straight edge people."

Bo shares a nostalgic clip of Shane enjoying Firestorm Bowl, underscoring the deep roots and longevity of the scene.

Evolution of the Scene: Shane discusses how venues like the Knights of Columbus Hall became central hubs for hardcore shows, transitioning from small basement gigs to hosting national acts.

Shane Merrill (07:13): "I was definitely just doing it for fun. And then I realized that I could maybe do it for my career."

He credits mentors like Jim Grimes for facilitating connections with national tours, emphasizing the DIY spirit that fueled Chicago's hardcore growth.

The Killer's Journey and Influences (14:00 – 21:19)

Bo and Shane delve into The Killer's origins, from their first shows at local venues to their influential records.

Bo (15:10): "The Killer was the band that made me realize that danger is fun."

Shane highlights the importance of drummer Remus, who played a pivotal role beyond just rhythm, acting as an arranger and cohesive force within the band.

Shane Merrill (20:00): "Remus was the one that holds everything together."

The discussion transitions to their second LP, "Better Judge by 12," praised for its nuanced and intelligent approach to hardcore.

Chris Mills (20:24): "It's so much more than like heavy hardcore. It's probably so intelligent."

Memorable Shows and Venue Highlights (22:20 – 33:01)

Shane recounts unforgettable moments from tours and local shows, including a harrowing incident in Dallas where quick thinking ensured they got paid despite initial setbacks.

Shane Merrill (22:25): "Someone was going to be able to pay us. Luke called his dad, and five minutes later, his dad rolled up with cash."

The hosts explore iconic Chicago venues like Reggie's and the Fireside Bowl, sharing stories of legendary performances by bands like Entombed, Hate, and L7.

Shane Merrill (83:26): "One of my favorites... Entombed, Hatred, and Bloodlet did a tour and they played here."

Bo vividly describes the atmosphere of these venues during peak times, illustrating the close-knit community and high-energy performances that define Chicago's hardcore scene.

The Rumble Festival: Past and Present (11:35 – 13:43)

Shane discusses the inception of the Rumble Festival, originally conceived as a fest in December 1997 featuring a diverse lineup. Despite challenges like police shutdowns, the festival evolved into an annual staple at the Knights of Columbus Hall.

Shane Merrill (11:35): "The first fest we did was me, Jim, and Ed Fektorovich... It was really cool."

Bo and Chris reflect on the festival's growth into a premier event, attracting national acts and fostering a sense of community among attendees.

Shane Merrill (13:29): "We've kept it purposely niche and boutique, but... last year was a great vibe."

Insights from Hold My Own: Evolution and Community (34:00 – 53:33)

Eli from Hold My Own shares his personal journey into hardcore, influenced by family and skateboarding, leading to his role in the band. He emphasizes the surge of new local bands and the thriving energy in Chicago's current scene.

Eli (36:40): "Every show is pretty much sold out. On a Monday show, a show will get sold out."

The conversation highlights the importance of community participation and the responsibility of seasoned members to nurture new talent.

Chris Mills (26:43): "It's up to us to keep them coming. Be nice."

Eli expresses optimism for the future, noting the diversity and passion of emerging bands like Exit Service, Augment, and Absent Soul.

Eli (41:31): "They're just kids who fucking love this shit."

Iconic Venues and the Lasting Legacy of the Fireside Bowl (57:00 – 100:34)

The hosts and Shane take a virtual tour of the Fireside Bowl, sharing its historical significance and legendary performances. They recount stories of bands like AFI, Madball, and Ringworm, highlighting the venue's role in shaping Chicago's hardcore identity.

Shane Merrill (82:34): "We had Entombed Hatred and Bloodlet... that was a cool show."

Bo and Chris engage in playful banter while exploring the venue, capturing the nostalgia and enduring impact of the Fireside Bowl on the local scene.

Bo (85:29): "We got all of the Bootlegs. That's sick."

Shane notes the challenges of reviving such iconic spaces but remains hopeful for their legacy.

Shane Merrill (88:49): "I wouldn't count on it... he's not really a music guy."

Closing Reflections and Community Engagement (100:34 – End)

As the day winds down, the hosts emphasize the importance of community, participation, and preserving the hardcore spirit. They encourage listeners to support local venues, attend shows, and contribute in any way possible to keep the scene alive and thriving.

Chris (53:14): "The participation, the reaction is what makes something special."

The episode concludes with heartfelt acknowledgments, promoting local businesses like Mad Vintage and reinforcing the message of unity and passion within Chicago's hardcore community.

Notable Quotes:

• Shane Merrill (02:14): "When I first got into it, there was definitely way more vegan, straight edge people."
• Bo (15:10): "The Killer was the band that made me realize that danger is fun."
• Chris Mills (20:24): "It's so much more than like heavy hardcore. It's probably so intelligent."
• Shane Merrill (22:25): "Luke called his dad, and five minutes later, his dad rolled up with cash."
• Eli (36:40): "Every show is pretty much sold out. On a Monday show, a show will get sold out."
• Chris Mills (26:43): "It's up to us to keep them coming. Be nice."
• Bo (85:29): "We got all of the Bootlegs. That's sick."
• Chris (53:14): "The participation, the reaction is what makes something special."

Conclusion

"Day in Chicago with HARMS WAY, THE KILLER & HOLD MY OWN" offers an in-depth exploration of Chicago's hardcore scene, blending historical insights with personal stories. The episode celebrates the enduring legacy of iconic venues, the emergence of new talent, and the unwavering community spirit that keeps the hardcore ethos alive. Whether you're a longtime fan or new to the scene, this episode provides a rich and engaging narrative of what makes Chicago's hardcore music culture uniquely powerful.