HardLore's Favorite Riffs of All Time (With Aaron Osborne)

Summary

HardLore: Stories from Tour – Episode Summary

Episode Title: HardLore's Favorite Riffs of All Time (With Aaron Osborne)
Release Date: March 6, 2025
Hosts: Colin Young (God's Hate), Bo Lueders (Harms Way)
Special Guest: Aaron Osborne

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Introduction

In this electrifying episode of HardLore: Stories from Tour, hosts Colin Young and Bo Lueders welcome the esteemed Aaron Osborne, a pivotal figure in the hardcore, punk, and metal scenes. Together, they embark on a deep dive into the essence of unforgettable guitar riffs, sharing their personal favorites and the stories that make each riff stand out.

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Forging Friendships on the Road

The episode kicks off with Colin reminiscing about how he and Bo first connected with Aaron during a grueling European tour, particularly during a memorable stop in Budapest with the band I Hate God. Colin shares, “[03:06] We met you on this insane, brutal, devastating European tour...”, highlighting the intense experiences that solidified their friendship and mutual respect within the HardLore community.

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Top 10 Favorite Riffs of All Time

The core of the episode revolves around each host and their guest sharing their top 10 favorite guitar riffs. These selections not only showcase their musical tastes but also highlight the diverse influences that shape their artistry.

Number 10

• Aaron Osborne:
  AC/DC – "Touch Too Much" (from Highway to Hell)
  “[07:14] My number 10 is by a little band from down under called AC/DC, specifically the chorus riff of 'Touch Too Much'. It's a deeper cut.”

• Bo Lueders:
  Terror – "Ringworm" (from Split the Rift / Out of My Face)
  “[09:04] My number 10 favorite riff of all time has a little explanation. It's not solely a riff, but it's the vibe from a little band called Terror.”

• Colin Young:
  Grimlock – "Mountain of Power"
  “[10:02] The riff is the first palm muted guitar I ever heard... It's the reason I'm sitting in this chair.”

Number 9

• Aaron Osborne:
  Electric Wizard – "Return Trip"
  “[12:12] Number nine is from Electric Wizard's 'Return Trip'. There's basically one riff in the song, but it is rock.”

• Bo Lueders:
  AFI – "All Hollow" (from Z P Fall Children)
  “[14:18] Number nine for me is AFI's 'All Hollow'. It's a sick riff and an overture for the EP.”

• Colin Young:
  Pantera – Bridge to "Southern Trendkill"
  “[16:24] Number nine is Pantera's bridge to 'Southern Trendkill'. It's the blues scale made hard.”

Number 8

• Aaron Osborne:
  Queens of the Stone Age – "Super Scooper and Mighty Scoop Penis Music" (from Welcome to Sky Valley)
  “[18:49] Number eight is a riff by Josh from Queens of the Stone Age... 'Super Scooper and Mighty Scoop Penis Music'.”

• Bo Lueders:
  Only Living Witness – "Pro Model Form"
  “[21:05] My number eight is from Only Living Witness with 'Pro Model Form'.”

• Colin Young:
  Candlemass – "Well of Souls"
  “[23:08] My number eight is Candlemass' 'Well of Souls', perfect as a soundcheck riff.”

Number 7

• Aaron Osborne:
  Kiss – "Love Gun"
  “[31:00] Number seven for me is 'Love Gun' by Kiss. It's iconic and psycho to start a song.”

• Bo Lueders:
  Pantera – "Walk"
  “[31:30] Number seven for me is Pantera's 'Walk'.”

• Colin Young:
  Fleetwood Mac – "The Chain" (Bridge Section)
  “[30:40] My number seven is Fleetwood Mac's 'The Chain' bridge.”

Number 6

• Aaron Osborne:
  Judas Priest – "Painkiller" (from Painkiller)
  “[40:10] Number six is 'Painkiller' by Judas Priest, with an insane drum intro.”

• Bo Lueders:
  Bol Thrower – "Kill Chain"
  “[34:30] Number six for me is Bol Thrower's 'Kill Chain'.”

• Colin Young:
  Typo Negative – "World Coming Down" (from Odd Fellows Rest)
  “[36:40] My number six is Typo Negative's 'World Coming Down'.”

Number 5

• Aaron Osborne:
  Black Sabbath – "Sabbath Bloody Sabbath" (Intro/Riff to "National Acrobat")
  “[40:15] Number five is Black Sabbath's 'National Acrobat' riff.”

• Bo Lueders:
  Slayer – "Angel of Death"
  “[52:55] Number five is Slayer's 'Angel of Death'.”

• Colin Young:
  Judas Priest – "Painkiller"
  “[40:15] Number five is Judas Priest's 'Painkiller'.”

Number 4

• Aaron Osborne:
  Van Halen – "Hot for Teacher"
  “[54:37] Number four is Van Halen's 'Hot for Teacher'.”

• Bo Lueders:
  Slayer – "Angel of Death"
  “[52:55] Again, number four for me is Slayer's 'Angel of Death'.”

• Colin Young:
  Slayer – "Spill the Blood"
  “[61:45] Number four for me is Slayer's 'Spill the Blood'.”

Number 3

• Aaron Osborne:
  Crowbar – "To Carry the Load" (from Odd Fellows Rest)
  “[82:20] Number three is Crowbar's 'To Carry the Load'.”

• Bo Lueders:
  Crowbar – "To Carry the Load"
  “[82:26] It's my number one favorite riff of all time.”

• Colin Young:
  Crowbar – "To Carry the Load"
  “[82:26] Number one is Crowbar's 'To Carry the Load'.”

Number 2

• Aaron Osborne:
  Corrosion of Conformity – "Albatross" (from Corrosion of Conformity)
  “[64:32] Number two is Corrosion of Conformity's 'Albatross'.”

• Bo Lueders:
  Metallica – "Harvester of Sorrow" (from Worse Than Death)
  “[66:02] Number two for me is Metallica's 'Harvester of Sorrow'.”

• Colin Young:
  Corrosion of Conformity – "Albatross"
  “[64:22] Number two is Corrosion of Conformity's 'Albatross'.”

Number 1

• Aaron Osborne:
  Crowbar – "To Carry the Load" (from Odd Fellows Rest)
  “[82:20] Number one, to me, is Crowbar's 'To Carry the Load'.”

• Bo Lueders:
  Crowbar – "To Carry the Load"
  “[82:10] It's my number one favorite riff of all time.”

• Colin Young:
  Crowbar – "To Carry the Load"
  “[82:26] Number one is Crowbar's 'To Carry the Load'.”

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Honorable Mentions

Before settling on their top choices, the hosts and Aaron share several honorable mentions that didn't make the top 10 but are still worthy of recognition.

• Aaron Osborne:
  Mind Snare – "Bulldozed"
  “[73:04] My honorable mention is Mind Snare's 'Bulldozed'.”

• Bo Lueders:
  Van Halen – "Unchained"
  “[74:14] My honorable mention is Van Halen's 'Unchained'.”

• Colin Young:
  Morbid Angel – "Rapture" (from Covenant)
  “[76:37] My honorable mention is Morbid Angel's 'Rapture'.”

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Spotlight on Australian Music

The conversation shifts towards celebrating Australian bands, highlighting their influence and the vibrant music scene back home.

• Harm's Way: Currently on tour with hosts, known for their intense performances.

• Terminal Sleep: Direct support on their shows, praised for their talent.

• Bloodmouth: A Canberra-based band with a militant vegan message, combining humor with heavy technical grind.

• Half Man: Briefly mentioned for their standout performance in Brisbane.

• Implode: A new band impressing audiences with their covers of hardcore classics like "Sick People" by Breakdown.

• Than Toothikka: A three-piece from Canberra embracing themes of enlightenment and veganism.

Aaron enthusiastically notes, “[85:05] They wear military fatigues and body armor and balaclavas. They're militant vegan and destroy the carnist industrial complex.”

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Conclusion

Wrapping up the episode, Colin and Bo express their deep appreciation for Aaron Osborne's contributions and the shared passion for music that binds them. They hint at future collaborations and invite listeners to stay tuned for upcoming episodes featuring more stories and musical explorations.

Colin concludes, “[93:43] Thank you all for listening. We love you so much, Aaron. You're our favorite guy in the world.”

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Notable Quotes

• Colin Young:
  “[03:06] We met you on this insane, brutal, devastating European tour...”

• Aaron Osborne:
  “[07:14] My number 10 is by a little band from down under called AC/DC...”

• Bo Lueders:
  “[73:04] My honorable mention is Mind Snare's 'Bulldozed'.”

• Colin Young:
  “[82:26] Number one is Crowbar's 'To Carry the Load'.”

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This episode serves as a testament to the enduring power of great riffs and the stories they inspire. Whether you're a hardcore enthusiast or a casual listener, Colin, Bo, and Aaron offer insights that resonate with every music lover's soul.

Transcript

[Aaron Osborne]

All right, number six. So, pretty big fan of a little band called I Hate God.

[Bo]

I was wondering. I was wondering where this was on that European tour we played Budapest with I Hate God.

[Aaron Osborne]

Yeah.

[Colin]

So, Aaron, and you smoked meth with them, right?

[Aaron Osborne]

Yep.

[Colin]

That's awesome. So, I mean, that's every little boy's dream. Hello, welcome. It's Hard Lord time. How are you, Bo?

[Bo]

I'm down under, brother.

[Colin]

Unreal.

[Bo]

Feeling good. It's 7:36 in the morning in Melbourne tomorrow, which is.

[Colin]

Which is 2:36pm at home for you.

[Aaron Osborne]

Yeah.

[Bo]

So crack of dawn.

[Colin]

So this is perfect.

[Bo]

Crack of dawn in multiple ways. But who do we got? Colin.

[Colin]

This is. This is unbelievable. This is historic. We've got not only an Australian legend, not only one of our favorite guys of all time.

[Bo]

I did the research. He's the best one.

[Colin]

I think he's the best guy. Yeah, that is true. It's like Aaron and Andrew Morrissey in terms of.

[Bo]

See, he's sleeping at Aaron's right now.

[Colin]

Real recognizes real. But we've got a Hard Lore legend here. We've got somebody we talk about damn near weekly. Aaron Osborne. He used to play in a band called I Exist. Now he's in extortion, which is crazy. And now. And Agloe. And he is Agloe, because those are his initials.

[Bo]

So I just found that out. I said, what is aglow? Is that like a race in Star Trek?

[Colin]

It's me.

[Bo]

Like, dude, it's me.

[Aaron Osborne]

It's me.

[Colin]

So, Aaron, welcome. How are you?

[Aaron Osborne]

I'm awesome. I'm tired, as I can tell you that much.

[Bo]

And lest we forget, also, of course, Oblivious Maximus.

[Aaron Osborne]

Yeah.

[Bo]

Of whom?

[Colin]

Yes, of course, my favorite podcast, Realistically.

[Bo]

Whom Studio, we are currently using. This is amazing.

[Colin]

Beautiful.

[Aaron Osborne]

Welcome to the room, boys.

[Colin]

Thanks for. Thanks for having us. You know, Aaron, before we get into the subject of today's episode.

[Aaron Osborne]

Yeah.

[Colin]

We like the same tour that Bo and I bonded on. Yeah, that's right. That ultimately is like the kind of the reason Hard Lore exists. We met you on, so this insane, brutal, devastating European tour. I made these many, but these specifically, two lifelong friends that I'm so proud to know. I'm not. Like, Hard Lore has made people think I'm some extroverted, overly friendly guy who's easy to be friends with. And I don't think that's the case. And I say that objectively. I understand. But I love you guys so much and I love that we're getting to do this together today.

[Bo]

Do you want to know something crazy before we get started. We pinpointed it to a single event. The first domino of. The catalyst of all of this was James losing his passport at the Sydney Airport in 2012.

[Aaron Osborne]

Or.

[Bo]

Yeah, 2012, when we first came here. And Aaron was just the closest guy with WI fi. With WI fi.

[Aaron Osborne]

That was it.

[Colin]

So did you guys remember that on the tour? Did you guys remember that Aaron was the guy that brought you the passport?

[Bo]

Well, so we, like, Andrew's here. We were all at his wedding. Aaron ordained his wedding. How did they meet? Because of that tour that we did in Europe. How did I exist? You know what I mean? It was like, oh, unreal, dude. Because we already know Aaron. Like, it was just like a series of things. And literally it was because James lost his passport.

[Aaron Osborne]

Yeah. So if he wasn't a dumb at the airport, none of this.

[Colin]

None of this would happen.

[Bo]

It's really amazing.

[Colin]

There's so many dominoes from that tour. One really funny one is Patrick Galvin. Let's talk about Patrick, Patty, for a second, Aaron.

[Aaron Osborne]

Yep.

[Colin]

So before that tour, the only thing I knew about Iexist was that somebody that was going to be on the tour tweeted about how much twitching tongue sucks and that it was from an account called Patrick Galvin didn't have a profile picture. So I was like, first thing I'm doing on this tour is finding out who Patrick Galvin is.

[Aaron Osborne]

Yep.

[Colin]

First thing I do on the tour is take a pee in the bathroom at the venue and I see a passport on the ground with Australian insignia on the front. I opened the passport to one Patrick Galvin.

[Bo]

Holy.

[Colin]

So now my greatest enemy on this earth, I have his passport. And I think by the end of the tour, he was probably our biggest fan of any of you, which was nice. Except for you, because you loved the Bumblebee riff. Aaron.

[Aaron Osborne]

Yeah.

[Colin]

And then Patrick and then Patty, a few months later, would go on to design the God's Hate logo and do the artwork for Divine Injustice and work with us for many years.

[Bo]

So, dude, lost passports, kind of.

[Aaron Osborne]

It's the crux of Aaron.

[Colin]

Collective friendships bring people together. But of course, as Aaron, many, many don't know this, but we know this. The first we were thinking, like, what do we do today with Aaron on the show? And Aaron is a master and connoisseur of riffs.

[Bo]

The Riffman. That's all.

[Colin]

I'm the riff guy. I know. And so it was just like, what are we doing here? We gotta just talk riffs. So, unfortunately, we have dug ourselves into this agonizing hole the pit.

[Aaron Osborne]

Oh, yeah.

[Colin]

The pit of picking our top 10 riffs of all mine in a loose order.

[Aaron Osborne]

Me too.

[Bo]

I think it's what I would. How I would put it tomorrow, but it's, you know, it's. It's organized.

[Colin]

Yeah.

[Bo]

And I went with a specific. I didn't repeat any band which sucked.

[Colin]

Same.

[Bo]

Okay, good, good. Also, I went with. Because it's so broad, we purposely left it broad. I went with riffs. I pick up a guitar and tend.

[Aaron Osborne]

To play sound check.

[Colin]

Or try to play.

[Bo]

Or try to play soundtrack riffs. Exactly.

[Colin]

Soundtrack Rifts is great.

[Bo]

Yeah.

[Colin]

And this is. This is any riff. Any genre. There's a couple classical ones I omitted because I didn't want to be that guy. You know, I want to stick to aggressive music, but Vivaldi would have been all over this motherfucker, you know, Smoke.

[Aaron Osborne]

On the Water, number one.

[Colin]

Yeah, exactly. Exactly. Dude. Banger. When I put this together, at First I had 55 picks.

[Aaron Osborne]

Fucking hell.

[Colin]

So I had to trim 55 to about 30.

[Aaron Osborne]

Yeah.

[Colin]

And then. And then I spent all day yesterday trimming 30 to 10. And I regret every single one. But it's. But this is what I've got, and I'm going with it.

[Bo]

All right. Why don't you set the tone, I think, Aaron.

[Colin]

Oh, I mean, I can do that. I was going to say we all do one honorable mention first.

[Bo]

Let's do that before number one.

[Colin]

Okay.

[Bo]

Yeah. I love it. Save it.

[Colin]

I love it. Just in case it's on somebody's list.

[Bo]

Yeah, exactly.

[Colin]

So, Aaron, why don't you give me your number 10? You're the guest of honor. I want to Hear what your 10th favorite riff of all time is.

[Aaron Osborne]

Okay, so this one is. This one's kind of also a homage to a recent conversation that Beau and I had. My number 10 is by a little band from down under called ACDC, and it is the chorus riff of a song called Touch Too Much. It's on. It's like a deeper cut.

[Bo]

Yeah.

[Aaron Osborne]

Of highway to Hell, but it features in a playlist that I made for you.

[Bo]

Yes.

[Aaron Osborne]

Called Acadaka for Yanks.

[Colin]

Can you do the riff for me?

[Bo]

Yeah, I. I told him, too, that. That we would put little. Some clips.

[Colin]

Yeah, there'll be a clip, everybody. I want to hear it from. From. From the Horse's Mouth.

[Bo]

Oh, I can hear.

[Colin]

Oh, that's classic.

[Aaron Osborne]

Yeah. One of the great. That one.

[Colin]

That's a good one.

[Bo]

As someone who's, again, not that familiar with ACDC is. Is highway to Hell kind of like their, like Master of Puppets, like, record, like before they.

[Aaron Osborne]

Yeah, kind of. Yes. And then Back in Black is the Black album, right?

[Bo]

Yeah.

[Aaron Osborne]

Yeah.

[Bo]

Interesting.

[Aaron Osborne]

Yep. So that's my number 10.

[Bo]

I love it. I want. I want to learn. You know what I mean?

[Aaron Osborne]

Gotta learn.

[Colin]

I'm glad. I want the hometown represented too.

[Aaron Osborne]

Had to give him one.

[Bo]

Are they just the biggest band in the world? Is AC DC the biggest band?

[Aaron Osborne]

Yeah. I mean, I think still Back in Black is like the number two best selling record of all.

[Bo]

Of all time. It's like.

[Colin]

Yeah, it's like Eagles greatest hits.

[Aaron Osborne]

Yeah.

[Colin]

Back in Black, Thriller.

[Aaron Osborne]

Yeah.

[Bo]

So sick. All right.

[Colin]

Rock Music Man. Yeah, it's coming back.

[Bo]

I think my number 10 favorite riff at all time has a little explanation. It's not solely a riff, but it's the vibe. It's from Los Angeles, California. Little band called Terror.

[Colin]

Wow.

[Bo]

It's specifically off of the Ringworm Terror Split the Rift to out of My Face. On that split, it's a little slower. It sounds way less produced, but just the way the sounds. When I first heard it, it sounded almost industrial to me. It sounded so like rigid and crazy that it broke my, like high school brain. And that is a riff where I'll. If a guitar is in standard.

[Aaron Osborne]

Okay.

[Bo]

It just comes out.

[Colin]

I. I love to see core represented on this list. Do you have a lot of core on yours?

[Aaron Osborne]

No, no, I think I have like one.

[Colin]

Okay.

[Bo]

I specifically, I've got one. I. I have two. One. You'll see. But this, this was very specifically like, what? As soon as we agreed to do this, I knew this was going to be on here because this is literally a riff that has been in my head for 20 years. You know what I mean?

[Colin]

Okay. Yeah. That's awesome. I mean, I feel you. I got a couple of those here. I love that there's a core pick on your list. B, it's Terror. That's good shit. And this, I have the same kind of reasoning behind this one. My number 10. This is the first palm muted guitar I ever heard in my life. This is the reason I'm sitting in this chair. So I have to put it on here. The band is Grimlock. The song is Mountain of Power. It's just palm muted for about a minute and a half. And I didn't know what that meant. I didn't know what a chug was. I didn't know what a palm mute was. I didn't know what a breakdown was. All I knew was that I liked this. So to this day, when Taylor And I are writing something. It's like, okay, let's do a Mountain of Power riff on this. You know, it's. It's a verb. It's an adjective. It's a noun. It's a. It's the 10th best riff to me, I think.

[Bo]

I think Mountain of Power has made the most. Has been the most featured on your list.

[Colin]

And it's. It's so deeply personal. And like, I know this is the most subjective because it's just like this tiny niche band from. From Massachusetts that nobody. When I tell people I love. The Grimlock was like one of my favorite bands. Like, what the fuck are you talking about? And these are people from Massachusetts. So this is. This is very niche. This is my only core pick on the list. But this is one that, like, I just cut something insane to put this on because. Because I had to go raw, personal, subjective.

[Bo]

I, of course, mean that non derogatorily. I mean that to. To showcase how important that song is.

[Colin]

Oh, yeah. Changed my life.

[Bo]

Yeah.

[Colin]

In an instant.

[Bo]

Number nine. What are you thinking?

[Aaron Osborne]

Number nine. Number nine for me. Now we're getting really into the Aaron Osborne section of the list. Number nine. Much like your Grimlock, this riff influenced me so much that it informed my Internet handle for my entire life to this day. To this day, which. The song is called Return Trip. So if you want to follow me on Instagram, just.

[Bo]

Just a simple little plug.

[Aaron Osborne]

Write that in. But it's by a band called Electric Wizard. It's just the. Well, there's basically one riff in the song. It's the. The riff. But it is. What's the song Name a Return trip.

[Bo]

Sorry.

[Aaron Osborne]

You follow?

[Bo]

I do follow.

[Colin]

I'm gonna need you to mouth the. Oh, I didn't mouth the amount of power. Okay. Give me.

[Aaron Osborne]

Give me Return Trip is like.

[Bo]

Oh, but that's why we said six. Is that on six? Oh, come on.

[Aaron Osborne]

You know a bendy six, but yeah, just rocks. It's one of it. Similar thing. Like, great old band production sucks ass. But the riff's so good.

[Bo]

For those of you who don't know, Aaron is like an encyclopedia of a. Of a spec. Of many genres, but specifically, yeah, of one genre. Doomy, stonery, nola type Nola sludge. Yeah.

[Colin]

Is this man's bread as well as his.

[Aaron Osborne]

Wait till we get to the top five. That's all we're talking about.

[Colin]

Perfect. Yeah.

[Aaron Osborne]

What's the.

[Colin]

What's the Australian shit that. That they. You guys all like the. The disgusting substance that you guys like.

[Bo]

Oh, vegemite Vegemite.

[Colin]

It's his bread and Vegemite.

[Bo]

Yeah.

[Colin]

All right.

[Bo]

Number nine for me. My. The ninth best riff of all time by AFI off of the All Hollow ZP Fall Children. That is something I learned in eighth grade. It's crazy to me that. That's like Jade. Like, I got an idea. Like, it's such a sick riff and. And is an overture for the. Almost the entire ep because it's all kind of in the same. It's just like brilliant. It's.

[Colin]

That's a big time sound check riff for me.

[Bo]

Big time.

[Colin]

I pick up a guitar, I'm. That's my zone.

[Bo]

Yeah. Right. Yeah. The octave.

[Colin]

There's like 7, 7, 10.

[Bo]

Yeah. There's like 2. I'm either playing that or I'm playing one of the intros of a Metallica ballad. Yeah, those are. If there's a clean tone, I'm playing one of the two.

[Colin]

Yeah.

[Bo]

Love this riff. And I remember.

[Colin]

That's a great pick.

[Bo]

I remember when I figured it out as a kid on guitar, feeling like, oh, I can do this. I got this. I know how to play this. I figured it out.

[Colin]

If my career is set in stone.

[Bo]

I think I'm going to do this.

[Colin]

I'm going to be the next afi.

[Bo]

I am Jade.

[Aaron Osborne]

Also, if I In Australia right now.

[Bo]

Are they. Oh, yeah, that's. Dude, everyone is here right now. Hate breeds here. Tsunamis here. It's crazy.

[Colin]

Wow.

[Bo]

It's crazy.

[Colin]

Beautiful. What a great place. I gotta come back.

[Bo]

Yeah. Many, many a nights I have gotten someone who a. Things were related. By the way, you got to tell your brother to get back.

[Colin]

We're not. Not related.

[Bo]

I know, but people literally like. Anyway, many people want God's hate or twitching here.

[Colin]

God, it's about time.

[Bo]

All right. My number nine, the ninth.

[Colin]

You know, when you're talking. When you're talking riffs, I think riffers, you know, so that helped me narrow this down is like, who are my favorite riffers? Who. My favorite guys who write riffs. And one of the undisputed goats of all time was Dimebag.

[Bo]

Yeah.

[Colin]

So at number nine is my favorite single dimebag riff of all time, which is the bridge to great Southern Trend kill.

[Bo]

Yeah.

[Aaron Osborne]

It's almost all pinch harmonics too.

[Colin]

It's exact. He does.

[Aaron Osborne]

It's.

[Colin]

You know, the thing where you listen to a song and you go, I wish they did that.

[Aaron Osborne]

Yeah.

[Colin]

Every time he does the thing you wish it. It evolves into the thing you want it to do. This is like blues. How to make the blues scale. Hard as fuck.

[Aaron Osborne]

Oh, yeah.

[Colin]

And the whole song is basically building to this the entire time. It's like, the verse is stupid.

[Aaron Osborne]

Yeah.

[Colin]

The gang ganon gank ganon gang.

[Bo]

Yeah.

[Colin]

The. The chorus is even dumber because it's like there's all kinds of bends and slides, and then this masterpiece hits you at the end. It's beautiful.

[Bo]

We were talking about Carcass yesterday. Jeff on the tour said something about certain songs sounding Pantera e on Heartwork, and it's crazy. If you listen to Embodiment, put that in the Pantera context, and it's like, oh, yeah, that's. That's it.

[Colin]

When was heart work? 93, 94. 6?

[Aaron Osborne]

5? 6, maybe. Yeah, around there.

[Colin]

So either way, it's post.

[Bo]

It's post. Dime.

[Aaron Osborne]

It's post.

[Colin]

Yeah.

[Bo]

So it's. It's interesting to think of it.

[Colin]

Yeah, it's. If you.

[Bo]

A D after Dime, dude.

[Colin]

After Dime.

[Aaron Osborne]

If. The funny thing about, like that, great.

[Bo]

So.

[Aaron Osborne]

And Tranquil. But also a couple of those songs that have that. That really bluesy riffing. It's really funny listening to them played, like, slow on an acoustic guitar because, like, those are just countries.

[Bo]

Yeah.

[Aaron Osborne]

Like, they're not like.

[Colin]

But he's just.

[Aaron Osborne]

Turn that Randall to game 10.

[Bo]

Yeah.

[Colin]

Campfire with a can of beans and keep keeping the cowboys warm at night.

[Aaron Osborne]

Yeah.

[Colin]

Type riff.

[Bo]

Beautiful.

[Aaron Osborne]

Great pick. All right, number eight. Yeah.

[Colin]

This is.

[Aaron Osborne]

I'm just laughing at myself at this point.

[Colin]

Yeah. Same.

[Aaron Osborne]

Similar to you. Thinking of people that write great riffs, you know, not someone who I think gets too many mentions on Hard Law, but Josh from Queens of the Stone Age writes a lot of riffs that I vibe very heavily with. And he was in a band before Queens of Stone Age called Kaius. And this is a Kaya song. It's got the dumbest title in the world. The title for the song is Super Scooper and Mighty Scoop Penis Music. Yeah.

[Colin]

That's like the worst DC comic of.

[Bo]

All time is Kai's penis music. I've never listened.

[Aaron Osborne]

It has to be Verges, I would say.

[Bo]

Yeah.

[Colin]

It's like. It's like High IQ Penis.

[Aaron Osborne]

Yeah. You know, they definitely influenced Tool.

[Bo]

There you go. Say no more.

[Aaron Osborne]

But this riff. So the record is called welcome to Sky Valley, and technically, much like Dope Smoker, they're records that are, like, the intention was it's one song, but then, as I understand it, they handed it into the label, and the label was like, no fucking way. You got to cut them up. You can't have one Song.

[Bo]

Yeah.

[Aaron Osborne]

So all the songs are cut up, but when you listen to it, like.

[Colin]

Every song, one flowing track.

[Aaron Osborne]

Yeah. It flows together. And this. This song is the third. I believe it's the third song on the record. And it's kind of like the first time it has a real break.

[Bo]

Yeah.

[Aaron Osborne]

And then this riff is the riff that comes after the break. It's like fully just ideal stoner riff. Shit.

[Bo]

Can you hum it for us?

[Aaron Osborne]

Oh, yeah. Again, a lot of mine is to be me.

[Colin]

What?

[Aaron Osborne]

Bending fan.

[Colin]

That's who you are. I get it, man.

[Bo]

Did you see the. The Porter tweet about his three favorite songs?

[Colin]

Yeah, it's awesome.

[Bo]

Dope Smoker by Sleep, Like Rats by Godf. We just might buy Ethan today. Yeah, he just gets me.

[Colin]

Sums a lot up.

[Bo]

Yeah. You know, really does. Sounds like somebody I know. Number eight. I'm going to switch just so that we don't have two back to back of the same bands. Colin. I'm gonna go with Only Living Witness Pro Model Form.

[Colin]

Yeah, that. That, like, just got cut for me.

[Bo]

That is a riff, you know, that's a monster. There's like, some of these, like. One could argue that the out of My Face riff, the terror riff that I said isn't like a riff.

[Colin]

Yeah.

[Bo]

In. In the way that you would use, like. Like, oh, whatever. You know what I mean? This is a riff. It starts the record. It sounds awesome. There's little nuances where it kind of doesn't repeat until it's back to one. It's so.

[Colin]

Have you ever. Have you ever showed this rift to somebody in person?

[Bo]

Yeah.

[Colin]

They can't believe it.

[Aaron Osborne]

Yeah.

[Colin]

I've never showed this to a person and not seen them be like, this is insane.

[Bo]

Oh, I know exactly what you mean. Drew from Nachos, when he was playing, when we were all in an old band, put it on one time. I had never heard it, like, oh, if you like Life of Agony, you're going to like this.

[Aaron Osborne]

Yeah.

[Bo]

Played it and I was like, this is incredible. So it's a little more straightforward music I've ever heard.

[Colin]

Yeah.

[Bo]

And then.

[Colin]

Yeah.

[Bo]

And then Jonah comes in and the.

[Aaron Osborne]

First time I heard, I would say that the thing that, like, obviously I love the riff. The thing that makes that for me, though, is the. The chorus. Vocals, like the. The comp. The combo is where I'm like. It's. To me, it's like the. I get the same feeling from that as I do from man in the Box by Alice in Chains. Like, it's.

[Colin]

Yeah.

[Bo]

That got Cut for me and was really painful. But, yeah, great riff.

[Colin]

Yeah. Incredible pick. Obviously, one of the. That's. That's.

[Bo]

That's a riff.

[Colin]

That's everything. Yeah, it's perfect. Needs no humming at this point. No.

[Bo]

You guys know it.

[Colin]

We all know my number eight. This is the definition of a soundcheck riff for me. Perfect as this is my soundcheck riff. I guarantee if you've seen me play guitar in any kind of live setting, even bass, this is it. The band is Candlemass. This song is the well of Souls. And this is specifically when the synth intro riff from the first song comes back. So. And like, 10 favorite riffs don't mean 10 technical riffs that are insane that I like because they're so crazy. Simple is great if it's done right, like Paris said in the CRO Mags episode. Like, it's such a magical feeling finding a new combination of these very few notes that nobody's ever done before.

[Bo]

100%.

[Aaron Osborne]

Yeah.

[Colin]

And hearing that new combination of notes that nobody's ever done before. And this one in particular, if I pick up a guitar, I have to play it.

[Bo]

Yeah. It's like swinging a baseball bat or a golf club or something.

[Colin]

Exactly.

[Bo]

Riding a bike.

[Colin]

So I had to put it on here because it has stuck with me so intimately sense. And I love it so much.

[Bo]

Are you a candle mask?

[Aaron Osborne]

Yeah. I think the thing for me, though, is I. Candlemask came to me through doom, like, many, many years ago. And I found it very surprising when I started meeting people in hardcore that liked that band.

[Bo]

Yeah.

[Aaron Osborne]

Because I kind of had gone through my time with them, if that makes sense.

[Bo]

Sure, of course.

[Aaron Osborne]

But yeah, they're awesome. Crazy.

[Colin]

Yeah. Love them.

[Aaron Osborne]

All right, number seven. Okay. So another thing about me is that I really get in the lab on the couch after a few drinks, I.

[Colin]

See where this is going.

[Aaron Osborne]

And some. Some vids. Some vids get almost burnt into the screen.

[Bo]

Oh, yes.

[Aaron Osborne]

At this point, a big one for me. This is one of them. Is simple man by Lynyrd Skynyrd.

[Bo]

Oh.

[Colin]

Oh, my God.

[Bo]

I mean, just that boom, boom, bam, bam.

[Aaron Osborne]

So basically, the other reason I put this in is simple man is basically one riff.

[Bo]

Right.

[Aaron Osborne]

It's just one riff played, like three kind of different ways. So the version I just wrote, same riff the whole time, but the bit with the solo, so 3:30 something. It's just the saying.

[Colin]

Oh, man.

[Aaron Osborne]

But, man, there's. There's one video, them playing live, and this motherfucker's got the full American flag wrapped around his mic stand.

[Colin]

And he means that.

[Aaron Osborne]

I'm sure he does. But every time he hits some line about God or something, he's just like pointing up, pointing to his heart, pointing at the flag. Me on the couch, drunk.

[Bo]

I'm like, pointing to him. Yeah.

[Aaron Osborne]

Wow.

[Colin]

I mean, there's a small list of songs that I've listened to for 24 hours straight.

[Aaron Osborne]

Yeah.

[Colin]

And Simpleman is high on that list. It's right below Return of the Mac.

[Bo]

I think they have a whole live set somewhere in the south. They have a huge star and bar behind them. Giant. But it's like a 10 minute version of Freebird. Oh, it's like an extra long version and people are. Are like losing their minds.

[Aaron Osborne]

Yeah.

[Bo]

Like, when was the last time you saw people go nuts for a solo? And like, this is sometime in the 70s. People are just like, more like.

[Colin]

Wow, this is. He's gonna do it. You know, this is the one. I'm. I've been screaming for this song to.

[Bo]

Every band for fucking.

[Colin]

And wow, I'm finally seeing the guy do it. Makes sense.

[Bo]

All right, number seven for me. I swapped this with Only Living Witness so that we didn't have two Pantera songs back to back. I am going. It's kind of a, you know, a basic pick. Walk by Pantera is such a cool riff. Like, that doesn't make sense as. As a radio hit, like their biggest song.

[Colin]

I'm so sick of this song.

[Bo]

All right. I mean, I. I get it. I. I know it. But.

[Colin]

But that, but that's because I've heard it my whole life. Because, yeah, it's. It's, you know, that's what happens to timeless bangers. I suppose.

[Bo]

We have to appreciate how cool it is to bend on one. And that's the riff. That's so cool.

[Colin]

And that's what we're all about.

[Bo]

That's what we're all about. That could fit into almost any context of heavy period. Like, there's no limit there.

[Aaron Osborne]

A crazy thing for me too is how it's so iconic for what it is. And then every time I see some dumb band play it wrong. 2, 1, 0.

[Bo]

He wouldn't do that.

[Colin]

And then also, like, disgusting.

[Bo]

The. The ending, the walk on homeboy part is like. It's like the same thing, but just kind of all the strings are, you know, the two bottom strings. Like, it's really cool. Oh, yeah. I've always loved it. I get being sick of it. Like, Mother is another one that I'm.

[Colin]

Like, yeah, this is this is like bottom, tier. Bottom is tier. Pantera to me.

[Bo]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Colin]

But. But the timelessness of it. Of course.

[Bo]

Of course it's Sandman, you know, I mean, I never need to hear it.

[Colin]

Exactly.

[Bo]

I'm good. But it's a great riff.

[Colin]

But, hey, great riff. Sandman, great room. My number seven. This is kind of the only. If you. If you wouldn't consider to them rock, which I. I mean, this is pop rock at its. At its best. The band is Fleetwood Mac. And I think. I think this may be the greatest bridge of all time. There's no. The guitar never plays this riff. The chain.

[Bo]

Oh, unbelievable, dude.

[Colin]

The entire song is this chill crescendo that's, like, awesome, but completely unrelated to this riff. They never allude to it. They never do anything about it. It's like somebody in the studio was like, let me. I got to figure out a bridge hand. Let me.

[Bo]

Let me write it. It's actually the contrary. They had the bridge and rode around it. Stevie said, let me see if I can figure something out. Went into another room in Van Nuys, came up with the rest of the song. The listen. That was her.

[Colin]

It's crazy.

[Bo]

She's a fucking genius. And then they were like, oh, we can resolve it with this and have a jam out. And then the big chain part.

[Colin]

It is a fucking jam out. And it's crazy that never once were they, like, the guit should play this Rift, too. That was just the baseline. So very rare. Best riff ever. Just a baseline.

[Bo]

Cool.

[Colin]

As my number seven.

[Bo]

I like that.

[Aaron Osborne]

That's another vid that. I'll catch me on the couch.

[Bo]

Which one?

[Aaron Osborne]

I got two. There's. There's a good live one. Yeah, there's like a live in the 90s one.

[Bo]

Yeah.

[Aaron Osborne]

He's playing that freaky little guitar.

[Bo]

Yeah. I hate that little guitar. He's a real weirdo, that little Lindsay.

[Aaron Osborne]

Yeah. And then there's actually another one. That's a good cover by the Highway Women.

[Bo]

Oh, yeah.

[Aaron Osborne]

And it's on Howard Stern.

[Bo]

Yep. I saw. I've seen it. Howard Stern. Aaron and I share a love for live sets. We often will send this. And when last time he was in America and staying at my place, we re. Or I guess that wasn't last time, but one of the more recent times we realized that the Harry Styles cover of Sledgehammer.

[Aaron Osborne]

Yeah.

[Bo]

On Howard.

[Aaron Osborne]

Oh, it's unreal, dude. I'd say it's my most watched YouTube video.

[Bo]

It is incredible.

[Colin]

It's more watched than Prince. While my guitar Gently weeps.

[Aaron Osborne]

Aaron, no, come on.

[Bo]

You got to check it out. The drummer in this, Colin rocks, and she sings backups. It's. It's awesome. It's awesome. But, yeah, great. Oh.

[Colin]

Oh, Gary. Gary's got it, man. Gary Styles is. He was really the chosen one.

[Aaron Osborne]

All right, number six. This. This one for me is just. It's iconic to me. Well, to music, but to me, because of just how psycho it is to start a song. It's Love Gun by Kiss, but just.

[Colin]

Yeah.

[Aaron Osborne]

It's so fucking sick. Yeah.

[Colin]

Unbelievable.

[Bo]

I. Sorry. Talk about.

[Aaron Osborne]

I mean, I think just to me, Kiss, you know, the Pre taking the makeup off era records and even a couple of. The taking the makeup of records. The Pre taking the makeup off. The boys are just writing insane, like, blues rock songs.

[Bo]

Yeah.

[Colin]

Rock and the heavy. The hardest hard rock known to man at that point.

[Aaron Osborne]

And they just become, like, the biggest band of all time from writing basically just, like, blues rock songs.

[Bo]

And I mean, kill them all is like, half that half. Recently, I discovered the. The Four Horsemen, like, breakdown part is Sweet Home Alabama and then, you know, European.

[Aaron Osborne]

Yeah.

[Bo]

And like, that's it.

[Aaron Osborne]

Yeah.

[Bo]

But there's so much. So much Kiss in early.

[Colin]

What Kiss did and how fast they did it, realistically.

[Aaron Osborne]

Yeah.

[Colin]

With. With that type of music is unbelievable, dude. A gimmick didn't really sacrifice any hard integrity until way longer.

[Aaron Osborne]

Yeah.

[Colin]

Took a while, but then even. Even those songs are good, dude.

[Bo]

Yeah.

[Colin]

Dimebag is good.

[Aaron Osborne]

Buried in the Kiss coffin.

[Bo]

I mean, come on.

[Colin]

Exactly.

[Bo]

Oh, my God.

[Colin]

Exactly.

[Bo]

You just.

[Colin]

Real recognizes real.

[Aaron Osborne]

Yeah.

[Bo]

You just reminded me that I'm missing, like, a major player in this whole thing.

[Colin]

Oh, I got one.

[Bo]

All right.

[Colin]

Great.

[Bo]

Great pick.

[Aaron Osborne]

Thank you.

[Bo]

I started that big drive from Chicago to Portland just. Just listening to Love Gun and Destroyer.

[Aaron Osborne]

Yeah.

[Bo]

Let's set the tone for this drive. Those are the first two things. I'm not a huge Kiss guy, but I do.

[Colin]

I think. I think you'd like Creatures of the Night.

[Bo]

Okay.

[Aaron Osborne]

Yeah.

[Bo]

Okay.

[Colin]

I think if you saw a picture of how big the drum kit on Creatures was, you would. You would be. It is, dude. The SN 14 in deep.

[Bo]

That's a tom deep.

[Colin]

It's eight by four. I think it's 14 by 14. It's insane.

[Bo]

Cube.

[Colin]

It's a Cube. It's awesome.

[Bo]

My number six.

[Colin]

Give me your number six. Hit me.

[Bo]

From Birmingham. Band called Bol Thrower. Oh, yeah, the Kill Chain. Dude, I. You have the Xeno Path intro, which is incredible. And then what's interesting is you can't really tell it on the record. Xenotaf. Sorry, you don't really have on the record. You don't really. You can't hear what the riff actually is because it sounds like. But it's Dune Daily. He does like a. A hammer on him. And you can only tell in live videos because the recording is kind of, I don't know, oversaturated stiff.

[Colin]

Yeah, well, there's four tracks on the record.

[Bo]

Yeah. But in that. Them playing that riff, which is a very bolt thrower riff into Gun Gunga Gun Gung is like the. Just the coolest thing.

[Aaron Osborne]

Yeah. Like that's, that's.

[Colin]

That is on. That's like the definitive bolt thrower part. And they start it with the definitive bull throw. You know?

[Bo]

Exactly.

[Colin]

They go, hey, hey, this is the one we picked on this album.

[Bo]

Yeah.

[Colin]

So to use the part. So you better.

[Bo]

You better listen.

[Colin]

And then they come in with this insanely hard thing that is like. Like as. As I'm in the middle of writing right now, you know, and this is like the miraculous type part that you wish comes to you.

[Bo]

Yes.

[Colin]

Where you go, I'm going to do this. While the other guy just does a cool, unique pattern. And the drummers just.

[Bo]

Yeah. Straightforward as can be. And there's an incredible. I think it's like 2004, 3 or 4 Vakan where they play and there's a security guard in front and they start the intro and then as soon as the gun, gun, gun. He just. And he's like watching him just like, holy fuck. It's. It's all time. That's an all time.

[Aaron Osborne]

Beautiful.

[Bo]

That's. And that's a big soundcheck riff for me. Yeah, big time.

[Colin]

Great pick. Great sound check. Great band. My number six is the. The pick I went with from my favorite band of all time. I would think maybe this one is going to be on Bo's list.

[Bo]

Okay, we'll see.

[Colin]

Typo negative.

[Bo]

Nope, you're good.

[Colin]

This is. This is I think the best single riff moment of their entire discography.

[Bo]

I love this.

[Colin]

The album is World coming down.

[Bo]

Beautiful.

[Colin]

The song is world coming down the big bridge. They hit that digital bell and give me down.

[Bo]

Yeah.

[Colin]

Under that digital china.

[Bo]

Yeah.

[Colin]

Just hitting me with those 8 bit fucking 32 inch China. This is. This is the moment that will wake me up out of a deep sleep. Every time I look forward to it, I rewind it. This is the best. I mean, they're a riff band.

[Bo]

Big time. Yeah.

[Aaron Osborne]

Big time.

[Colin]

But there's a lot they're Also a vocal and keyboard band. So it's like there's many things to pay attention to every time, but in this moment, they make sure to emphasize this riff so well that it hits like a fucking bomb.

[Bo]

The intro riff.

[Colin]

The two or three times it comes in.

[Bo]

The intro riff to this song also is, like, kind of cool and nuanced. Sounds very basic, but it's not like the. The feedback is so perfectly timed. Like, the way he bends and it's great. Great pick. I played it yesterday.

[Colin]

I saw. I saw an interview recently with Johnny. They're talking about, like, if Typo reunited in some way, that the hardest part wouldn't be to get a vocalist. He's like, we can get any kind of baritone guy to do that. It's how good Peter was at bass.

[Aaron Osborne]

Yeah.

[Colin]

And, like, you need, like.

[Aaron Osborne]

That's amazing sounds.

[Bo]

Yeah, dude. It's trying.

[Aaron Osborne]

Reference. That sound.

[Bo]

Solid State. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Colin]

Any palm muted?

[Aaron Osborne]

Yeah.

[Bo]

Paul muted.

[Aaron Osborne]

Yeah, he played.

[Colin]

It's very unique.

[Aaron Osborne]

Some of those videos like that. The. Another 2am in the lab for me. The, like, the walking where he's got the.

[Bo]

The top hat.

[Aaron Osborne]

The top hat.

[Bo]

Yeah.

[Aaron Osborne]

Yeah. There's part of that where, like, that bass is enormous and it looks like a child's guitar.

[Bo]

Yeah.

[Aaron Osborne]

Like. And he's palm eating the. Out of that thing.

[Colin]

Yeah.

[Aaron Osborne]

Down near his knees.

[Bo]

Yeah.

[Aaron Osborne]

And he's still palm muting it somehow.

[Bo]

Is that the set where the power cuts out? Do you know the one I'm talking about?

[Colin]

There's one where they're pissed about the.

[Bo]

Sound the entire time the power cuts out. And instead of the win in Christian Woman, Josh whistles it into a mic because the mic still works because it's a different line.

[Colin]

Insane.

[Bo]

He whistles it and Peter goes. He, like, laughs. It's so good.

[Aaron Osborne]

That rocks.

[Colin]

There's. There's a. I think there's a vakan where There. You can tell they're really unhappy with the monitor mix or something.

[Bo]

Yeah.

[Colin]

And then there's the other one. I don't know if it's vodka or Download, where they open with in the Flesh with, like, bombs and helicopters and shit going off.

[Aaron Osborne]

That's.

[Colin]

And it's the sickest thing ever.

[Bo]

I think the best live one of them besides some old Lamore shit is. Is that bizarre fest with the huge suspended in dusk backdrop.

[Colin]

Yeah.

[Bo]

They play all of, like, Wolf Moon. Like, it's per.

[Colin]

Good era.

[Bo]

It's good era.

[Aaron Osborne]

All right, now we're into the pointy end. Number five.

[Colin]

Top five. Top five time, guys. Holy Shit.

[Bo]

We're cruising.

[Aaron Osborne]

Yeah.

[Colin]

Yeah.

[Aaron Osborne]

So this is. This is a psycho one for me because most people would pick, like, any other song. This is by a little band called Black Sabbath. But my. My favorite Black Sabbath riff is the intro slash, you know, song riff to a national acrobat from Sabbath Bloody Sabbath.

[Colin]

Wow.

[Bo]

Can you hum it?

[Aaron Osborne]

Well, before I hum it, I want to. I want to preface this as well by saying the. This riff is so sick that when Metallica cover. Cover Sabbath on Garage.

[Bo]

Garage Days.

[Colin]

Yeah.

[Aaron Osborne]

They drop this riff into the bridge of another song.

[Colin]

Right.

[Aaron Osborne]

To, like, highlight how good is. Yeah, but it's just one of those things for me where it's like perfect blues again. A band that invented the next four bands that I'm going to talk about. I mean, typo as well. Like, they were Black Sabbath is.

[Colin]

Is the reason for the season. More. More so than anybody, you know. Yeah.

[Aaron Osborne]

But the riff is just.

[Bo]

Yeah, that. I mean, that's Fade to Black. Same. It's the riff. Great pick.

[Aaron Osborne]

Thanks.

[Bo]

I didn't know that that's what that song was called. I know that song. Well, obviously, that record rips.

[Aaron Osborne]

Yeah.

[Bo]

Gray pick.

[Aaron Osborne]

Yeah.

[Bo]

That's a riff.

[Aaron Osborne]

It is a. It's a big sound check for Aaron Black.

[Colin]

Black Sabbath, like, had almost an overwhelming amount of options where that I couldn't end up putting them on here.

[Bo]

I. I don't have one for the.

[Aaron Osborne]

Same reason I don't have a Pantera one as well, because I was like. I had option paralysis and I just got lost.

[Bo]

Yeah. With that. That's also kind of why I chose Walk. Because it was just like. You know what? This is a definitive.

[Colin]

I get it. And like.

[Bo]

Yeah.

[Colin]

Iron man is, like, one of the most iconic riffs of all time.

[Bo]

Never need to hear that song.

[Colin]

But there's. But there's. There's 55 more that I like.

[Bo]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Clearly. All right. My number five. A band we don't talk about that much. Colin. That is classic. Rebirthed in the record Painkiller. The song is Painkiller by Judas Priest, dude.

[Colin]

All time, same members.

[Aaron Osborne]

Yeah.

[Bo]

Just going. Let's just do something like extreme and hard. And they put.

[Colin]

That's hard as.

[Bo]

Yeah, dude. And the crazy drum intro into the. In a Wheel.

[Aaron Osborne]

Another riff that is predominantly pinch harmonics, too.

[Bo]

A lot of. And the.

[Aaron Osborne]

Thank God.

[Bo]

That little turnaround bridge. The landed. I.

[Colin]

This is. This. This is one of the best produced metal albums of all time. It sounds absolutely insane.

[Aaron Osborne]

Yeah.

[Bo]

There's a lot of good songs on this record. This one is the standout, obviously, it was the song that made me go, oh, they're more than rocking after midnight and breaking.

[Aaron Osborne]

Yeah.

[Bo]

Like, I was. I was unfamiliar, you know what I mean? And this made me go back and go, wait a minute. What did I miss? Can't get enough. Anytime there's.

[Colin]

Evolution was quick and sharp.

[Bo]

It's. It's. It's really funny how when that drum part comes on, any musician in the room, you'll see, like.

[Aaron Osborne]

We'Re all doing it.

[Bo]

It's so good. Great live video is baby metal playing that with Rob Halford, and she just doesn't know the song. But the band, who are all obviously old metalheads, are just like old guys, time of their life. The drummer who's in, like, crazy scary makeup is just like, this is a dream.

[Colin]

Yeah. Real quick.

[Aaron Osborne]

Also, just for anyone who's never heard it, Death do, like, an incredible cover of it. The COVID is insane.

[Colin]

Speaking of Death.

[Bo]

No way.

[Colin]

My number five pick.

[Bo]

Wow.

[Aaron Osborne]

God, we're really good.

[Colin]

You know, it's. It's the rare. It's a rare case of last is best.

[Bo]

Mm.

[Colin]

The album Sound of Perseverance.

[Aaron Osborne]

It gets its June.

[Colin]

Oh, finally. The opening track. The opening riff is, I think, single best riff they ever wrote. This is not a soundcheck riff to me because I can't play it. The song is the scavenger of human sorrow. And, like, drummer's going off a thousand miles a minute. Yeah, 60 miles an hour. He's playing absolutely insane. The production's crazy vocals come in hard as. The evolution of this band is so every. Each record is a level up in performance and production, and everything went out on the best possible note. Can't believe it. Love it.

[Aaron Osborne]

The drummer on that record, Richard Christie, works on the. Howard Stern.

[Bo]

Howard Stern. Big Howard Stern.

[Colin]

Really?

[Bo]

Oh, yeah.

[Aaron Osborne]

He, like, basically finished playing music to work on Howard Strange.

[Bo]

On Howard Strange.

[Colin]

Great gig. Understandable. I do it in a heartbeat. Pardon this interruption. We gotta tell you about something very important. The color green. I'm looking at myself in the reflection here, and it's making me think about this thing I do every single morning.

[Bo]

What's that?

[Colin]

But what it is, is the reason I feel so good all the time. It's the reason I feel confident in saying I'm a healthy old man at this point.

[Bo]

You look youthful despite the elderly status.

[Colin]

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[Bo]

I look forward to it every single day. I know that I'm taking care of myself and it makes me feel good.

[Colin]

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[Bo]

What do they get if they use that link?

[Colin]

Well, for starters, you're going to get five free travel packs. So if you go somewhere like Tied down or LDB or Sound and Fury Fest, they're all coming up and you're going to need them. You're going to need to build those immunities, you're going to need energies, because we're going to need you in the pit. Okay? It is what it is. And you're going to get a year supply of vitamin D and K drops. And I heard there's some other goodies now too. So you're going to want to check the site out to see for yourself. Wow. This episode is also, as always, brought to you by Manscaped. Boy, you know what doesn't stink? Album closers.

[Bo]

True.

[Colin]

They've all been manscaped in some way or another.

[Bo]

I mean, it's very thoroughly thought about and procured for what it is, which.

[Colin]

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[Bo]

Wow. Okay, that's beautiful. Twice I use the body wash. I use the crop reviver or the crop preserver. I'm about to shave in a couple days with the beard trimmer. I use these products all the time.

[Colin]

Every single day I use something I'm covered in reviver right now. I don't like a stinky ball when we record.

[Bo]

Who would. No, not I.

[Colin]

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[Bo]

This one little place called Mad Vintage.

[Colin]

Me too. M A D D. Vintage.com has every band we're talking about today covered? Yes, just straight up so you can you hear a song you like, you can get a shirt from them on madventage.com, use code HARD15. You're gonna get 15% off some of this pricey, pricey stuff.

[Bo]

It adds up.

[Colin]

The vintage market's out of control. And maybe it's our fault.

[Bo]

And listen, he's gonna be out and about. He's gonna be. Maybe it's our fault. He's gonna be at some fest coming up. He's always reeling and dealing. He's always got new stuff. You guys need to pay attention, because Colin and I were assassins.

[Colin]

I'm gonna get you if you don't. If you don't act right now. That shirt you're looking for is gone.

[Bo]

It's gone.

[Colin]

And I'm going to be wearing it next week. And you're going to be pissed. So hurry your ass up, quit stinking, get a new shirt. In that order, and drink as you want.

[Aaron Osborne]

All right. So, pretty big fan of a little band called I Hate God.

[Bo]

I was wondering. I was wondering where this was. For those of you who don't know, Aaron is literally the biggest I Hate God fan. I know.

[Aaron Osborne]

Gotta be one of the top in the world, I think.

[Colin]

In the world.

[Bo]

Yeah, you're a top. And. And on that European we played Budapest with. I Hate God.

[Aaron Osborne]

Yeah.

[Bo]

So, Aaron.

[Colin]

And you smoked meth with them, right?

[Aaron Osborne]

Yep.

[Colin]

That's awesome. So, I mean, that's every little boy's dream.

[Bo]

I was gonna go. Aaron was really excited about it when he saw the flyer.

[Aaron Osborne]

Patty has a photo of me from that night, and I'm smoking two cigarettes. I don't smoke. And I'm just chatting to someone and I'm like.

[Colin]

And who knows if those were cigarettes? Were they glass? Dude, we got.

[Aaron Osborne]

We got.

[Colin]

We got encouragingly heckled by Jimmy Bauer that night.

[Aaron Osborne]

Yeah.

[Colin]

Incredible night.

[Bo]

Yeah. That was a dream. Awesome night.

[Colin]

Yeah, that's also every other little boy's dream.

[Aaron Osborne]

Yeah.

[Colin]

You know.

[Aaron Osborne]

Okay, so I. Basically another. Another band that would be very challenging for me to pick just one part. But I think one of the things that I Hate God has done the best, I think, of any band is that I had got release all of their demos. Like, anytime they write a song, they'll put out a tape that's got all the demo versions of it.

[Colin]

Really so cool.

[Aaron Osborne]

And for whatever reason, I think it's just because of the title. They have a compilation called Southern Discomfort, which is just all demos of songs that later went on to be something else. The song Southern Discomfort is on a later record and has a different name, but in its form as Southern Discomfort, it's Basically just one riff repeated over and over and over again.

[Bo]

I love that.

[Aaron Osborne]

That and I love that riff.

[Colin]

Tell me that riff.

[Bo]

Yeah, let's hear it.

[Aaron Osborne]

A lot of. Just beautiful.

[Colin]

I love power. Power. It's just.

[Aaron Osborne]

Just fret dots. Just playing the fret dots and.

[Colin]

Oh, man, thank God for those dots.

[Bo]

You don't. You don't. You know, you don't need to play the non dotted if you can bend up to the dot. Yeah, that's right.

[Colin]

That's what they're for.

[Bo]

That's what they're for.

[Colin]

Where to bend.

[Aaron Osborne]

I have five. I had gone tattoos, so that's five.

[Bo]

More than the planet. You know what I mean? Like, that's right. You did it.

[Colin]

Number six coming soon.

[Bo]

Yeah. All right. My number four. This is where we get into kind of like from here on, it's kind of like. Well, of course. For me.

[Aaron Osborne]

Yeah.

[Bo]

Because it's just too obvious. My number four is by Slayer, and it's the entire song of angel of Death. There's actually no specific riff in it that I think is better than the other because the intro is perfect. The. The chorus is perfect. Obviously the is perfect. But I guess my favorite is the. The. I love that it's O, 10, 3 or 0, 1036. It's not what you think it is, which makes it cooler to me. It's not 1 4. You know, it's. It's. It played a little different. And the fact that they go into it, what, three times? Like, it's like that. It's like a verse, chorus, verse, chorus, and then outro of it and it's.

[Colin]

Again, it's the greatest opener. Yeah.

[Bo]

Hey, now, wait a minute.

[Colin]

We've already done it.

[Bo]

It's. Yeah, it's perfect. I knew there was gonna be a Slayer song on here. And again, I just kind of defaulted to, like, well, what do I do when I pick up a guitar?

[Aaron Osborne]

Yeah, what do you.

[Bo]

One of the first things I do is. And that's the one.

[Colin]

That's a great pick. Your reasoning for. There's so many riffs in the song that it has to be on here is the. Is my next pick perfect? Where every single thing that happens in this song is like the next best riff I've ever heard by who may be the greatest riffer in history.

[Bo]

Okay.

[Colin]

Sir Edward Van Halen. Oh, the song is hot for Teacher.

[Aaron Osborne]

Dude.

[Bo]

I mean, a song that no one can play.

[Aaron Osborne]

Yeah.

[Bo]

You know, it's like.

[Colin]

It's insane, dude. It starts with the crazy intro riff into.

[Bo]

That little, like, the tag Kind of doesn't make any sense. I don't know how you would write that, dude.

[Colin]

And then it comes in hard.

[Bo]

Yeah.

[Colin]

High gain. The first guy to be like, I'm going to turn the gain up and see what this does. And then blazing. This is harder than most hardcore bands.

[Aaron Osborne]

Yeah.

[Colin]

Harder than most metal bands. And he's going.

[Aaron Osborne]

He's finger plucked, dude.

[Bo]

This actually has one of my favorite moments in music. I love like when a solo comes like a. Or like something. Obviously David Lee Roth hit you with a. Oh. Cause you're. Now because Eddie's coming and you're. I love that part. Colin, what is your solo?

[Colin]

Is what.

[Bo]

What I was gonna ask, what is your opinion of how the drum intro is played? Like, do you. Did he play that all in one take?

[Colin]

Because I think it's multiple.

[Bo]

That's what it.

[Aaron Osborne]

Right?

[Bo]

That's what it.

[Colin]

Yeah, I think it's. I think it's a couple kicks and a couple floor toms.

[Aaron Osborne]

Yeah.

[Colin]

Just to make it special. And then maybe the greatest verse to chorus transition in history is this is. This is chock full of 10 riffs that could all be on this list.

[Aaron Osborne]

Yeah.

[Bo]

You know, I also just realized that that drum, the dunk dink during the intro thing is the D. It's like on.

[Aaron Osborne]

Yeah.

[Bo]

Just put that together. They're fucking genius. That's unbelievable.

[Colin]

Yeah.

[Bo]

Video is a little weird though.

[Aaron Osborne]

Yeah, I love the video.

[Colin]

I love the video. It has a whole narrative behind it that by the. By the end, you're like, oh, there was a story here.

[Aaron Osborne]

Yeah.

[Colin]

Okay.

[Aaron Osborne]

The end of it has like. And he went on to do this.

[Colin]

Yeah, yeah.

[Aaron Osborne]

It's like, oh, they were telling us.

[Bo]

It'S all John Hughes. Lest we forget, one of the greatest improvs. The I don't feel tardy. What a line.

[Colin]

All right, agreed.

[Aaron Osborne]

Top three.

[Bo]

This is big.

[Aaron Osborne]

This is big. Yeah.

[Colin]

Top three.

[Aaron Osborne]

So another feature of my remaining songs is that my lord and savior Jimmy Bauer plays on all of them. So this is. This. This needs a little bit of explaining, but the band is down the song. The song is Stone the Crowd. That is their biggest hit.

[Bo]

Is it?

[Colin]

Yeah.

[Aaron Osborne]

Yeah.

[Colin]

Oh, I think so.

[Aaron Osborne]

Weirdly, their. The. The music video that's on YouTube for it. Again, like I've talked about it with you before. The COVID of Nola that's on Spotify is not a high def cover.

[Bo]

Yeah.

[Aaron Osborne]

Like pixelated.

[Bo]

Yeah.

[Aaron Osborne]

The worst picture of it. The music video for this that's like the Down Vivo account has uploaded is Down Vivo. It is an Australian is a rip of an Australian TV show. Like a music show called Rage. That's like a. It's on Saturday nights here. And I can tell because it's the font from Rage. It comes up and says Downstone the crow on it. Anyway, that's just a little Australia fact. But the riff itself is incredible. One of my top sound check riffs. Stone the Crow. But the part that I'm selecting is when the riff becomes heavy at the end of the song. 405.

[Colin]

All this time.

[Bo]

Can you.

[Aaron Osborne]

For a listener in the start is the. At the end, they just go.

[Bo]

Yeah.

[Aaron Osborne]

That's so sick. And in the video, Cook's playing a flying V. Come on, Rocks.

[Bo]

Those are two things that, like, that's. That's rock and scissors. Like, those are two things that don't go together. You know what I mean?

[Colin]

Yeah. Literally, Kirk and applying me.

[Bo]

Yeah. It's like somehow it doesn't make sense. Obviously, it's perfect. But like, you would think that would.

[Colin]

Be an unideal shape for him.

[Aaron Osborne]

Yeah.

[Colin]

For some reason. But he. But. But he. You forget, he's got.

[Bo]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Aaron Osborne]

I do inspire a telly. And he plays the solo on like a. A, you know, like a river boat.

[Colin]

It's real.

[Bo]

I mean, that's just pure Skinner.

[Aaron Osborne]

Yeah.

[Bo]

You know, they're just like. You just paying homage. I love it. Great pick. I was wondering when Don was getting in here.

[Aaron Osborne]

Yep.

[Bo]

Oh, okay. We're going way back to the 60s, early 70s. A little band called Led Zeppelin. A Whole lot of love.

[Aaron Osborne]

Absolutely.

[Bo]

What? Just a timeless, timeless riff that we've all heard a thousand times. I know, but it's so sick, like. And also the. The recording quality of it. You can hear a room reverb. It was so. So much before effects and stuff that like, if you really. If you sit down and really turn that up and listen to it in the best quality you can. You can hear the room on that. You can hear it talking back to him, which is.

[Colin]

I mean, that's real. It's.

[Bo]

It's as real as it gets.

[Colin]

You wonder why. Why things sound like shit now. And you don't. You don't connect with rock music the same because it's all fucking fake.

[Bo]

All digital and silly, excluding the beautiful.

[Colin]

32 inch digital 8 bit China. The type of dude, you know, I fuck with that.

[Bo]

I also resent the. I get it. But I resent the radio edit of this song because I love how weird that gets in the full version. And obviously we're talking about riff, so this. This is not that. But the. Is like a screaming part that gets me pretty hard straight back into the main riff. So I just like. It's a timeless. That was the first Led Zeppelin song I learned as a kid because it's got to be one of their easy ones. And it's perfect time.

[Colin]

I. I figured some zip was coming. I was wondering where it would be.

[Bo]

I know you can guess my top three for sure.

[Colin]

Yeah, I know. I know. What's coming next. Specifically next. Okay. You know when you're talking rivers, Hanneman is king.

[Aaron Osborne]

Yep.

[Colin]

And then it came down to pick my favorite Slayer riff. Which just two weeks ago in our album Closers pick. I talk about this one and I think it is the best riff anybody in Slayer ever wrote. And that would be the big intro riff to Spill the Blood. And then they go to the fucking Lombardo Ride Skank hit you like a goddamn basketball to the dome. Which. Which can hurt. Thrown by the right guy. And Hanneman is the right guy.

[Bo]

He's the right guy.

[Colin]

They write the best closing tracks of any band ever. They. They're. They. They're in the box. They're in my favorite riff box. More so than any band ever and better than any band ever. And what they. The combinations of notes that they find in that small, tiny box inspire me to this day more so than anybody. And this is the best example of that. It's all right here.

[Bo]

Interesting.

[Colin]

And it's all. And It's a few LPs in.

[Bo]

Yeah.

[Colin]

Still innovating in the best way.

[Bo]

It's fun to. To. To like. You know that if that was a riff that was invented for Rain and Blood or. Or even south of Heaven, it would have been different. It wouldn't have gone on as long. And it would have been kind of chopped in a little more meat and potatoes.

[Colin]

Sure.

[Bo]

They have time. They can explore.

[Colin]

But then it's. But then it like doesn't happen again in the song. I think they. They truly did it as just like. Let's write a fucking crazy intro.

[Bo]

Really? Yeah.

[Colin]

And then just to a classic closer.

[Bo]

It's so awesome.

[Colin]

And then the verse comes in. Ganiga Gan again.

[Bo]

Yeah. We as riffers who. I can't shred. You're not.

[Aaron Osborne]

No.

[Bo]

You're not like a shredder, Colin. You're not really a shredder.

[Colin]

No.

[Bo]

We all need to pay homage to the fact that they play the. Their versions of solos.

[Aaron Osborne]

Yeah.

[Bo]

That is such a punk thing. And so cool.

[Aaron Osborne]

Yeah.

[Bo]

Something we haven't really talked about. Is like a Slayer solo is kind of just. And what's crazy is when you see them live, they kind of do it like they replicate it as best they can.

[Colin]

They know what nonsense noise.

[Bo]

Exactly. But I bet you.

[Colin]

And so do we. We can mouth the whole thing. And that's a great solo.

[Bo]

Excellent point. Fantastic.

[Colin]

Yeah.

[Aaron Osborne]

All right.

[Colin]

Number two.

[Aaron Osborne]

Number two. This is truly. This riff is probably the riff I've played most on guitar in my life. I would say.

[Bo]

That's a. That's a fun question.

[Aaron Osborne]

I. I sound. It's my sound. Check every. It sounds. It sounds great on bass. So I sound check it for extortion. Which is very funny because there's no point in sound checking for extortion because it's just. Anyway. But I play this because I love it. Now, Jimmy Bauer. Technically not on the recording, but he did play in the band for a time. So. This is Corrosion of Conformity.

[Bo]

Oh, wow.

[Aaron Osborne]

The song is Albatross Off.

[Colin]

Oh my God.

[Aaron Osborne]

CSA have this thing. Like. A lot of people have mixed feelings about Corrosion. I am a Stan for every record. I don't give a. I like the pop.

[Colin]

They. They only lost me at the tail. Tail end. You know. Yeah. But. But what. What a band.

[Aaron Osborne]

But Albatross itself is just like Black Sabbath stoner if you know. It's the box. It's just moving up and down.

[Bo]

Yeah.

[Colin]

That beautiful box.

[Bo]

There they are. I knew that Ben was coming. Come on.

[Colin]

You got to bend it.

[Aaron Osborne]

Gotta bend.

[Bo]

Wow. Wow.

[Colin]

Incredible pick. Wow. Coc. Number two.

[Bo]

That's awesome. I love it.

[Aaron Osborne]

Gotta do it.

[Bo]

I don't know if I don't laugh at me. I don't.

[Colin]

Because I already know what it is. I wonder which one.

[Bo]

Yeah.

[Colin]

Yeah.

[Bo]

Truly. I don't know if I've ever talked about this before. I'm a pretty. Pretty sizable Metallica fan. I couldn't. I had a real hard time picking. But I went with. I pick up a guitar. What's the. What's like. What do I think of Harvester? Of Sorrow? Off of Injustice for all. Wow.

[Colin]

Ripo.

[Bo]

Dude. When it. Which part The. Clean the Dennett into the.

[Colin]

Yeah, that's fair.

[Bo]

It. There's like that weird drone underneath it. It sounds. I think that's like one of the only parts on that record that sounds good. You know what I mean? Like. Like the. Specifically the tom build up part sounds like. Oh, this is like scary because the.

[Colin]

Tom is adding the bass.

[Bo]

Exactly. Exactly the frequency that's. That's missing. Every record that they have has 10 riffs that I could put on this list. So I. I really just went with. What's the first one that comes to mind? And this is like. It sounds super evil. When they played that big Moscow Monsters of Rock show, this was the most violent song. Like people were pitting the hardest to it. The version in. In 89, the Seattle thing is, he says, hey, this next one's pretty heavy, man. So, you know, we want you to bang. It sounds pretty good when you bang stuff together, like your head, your hands, your tits, whatever the you got. And then they start. They play it. And during the clean part, he goes. Goes, what I say, man? And it's just so, like, those people, like, lose it.

[Aaron Osborne]

Yeah, that's.

[Bo]

I think it just gets me going. And I think it's. It's my. I think it's. It's the best riff. I don't know if I really believe that, but I'm gonna say today. For today.

[Colin]

I almost put. Was the fade to black just verse riff.

[Bo]

Yeah, yeah. The a. Yeah.

[Colin]

I can't. I can't believe it to this day.

[Bo]

And that's pure Skinner. That is all. That is all Cliff just.

[Colin]

It's like classical skinner.

[Bo]

Yeah. 100am that's what Kirk was.

[Colin]

Kirk was smoking that Skinner pack.

[Bo]

Or.

[Colin]

Or Cliff was.

[Bo]

Yeah, yeah, he's got a Cliff and bell bottoms.

[Colin]

Cliff and Dave were smoking that when they wrote that.

[Bo]

Bell bottoms on. Misfit shirt tight.

[Colin]

Sick as fuck.

[Aaron Osborne]

Dave's gonna get the Google for that. Just you saying that.

[Colin]

What my number two. I'm gonna take you guys on a little journey for a minute.

[Bo]

Okay, I'm ready.

[Colin]

Now picture this. 1978, okay?

[Bo]

I wasn't alive.

[Colin]

Ozzy is booted by Black Sabbath or 79, whatever. Yeah, he's booted. He can't be in the band anymore. His life's in shambles. He's drinking himself to death. But his manager's daughter, a lady named Sharon, asks Daddy to forward the contract. She says, give me the contract, Daddy. Just give me the contract. I'll see what I can do. She starts to put together a band for Ozzy. Saves him. Saves him from the brink of death. Finds a fella from a band called Quiet Riot by the name of Randy Rhodes. Randy works some magic and he writes a couple incredible records for Ozzy, Revitalizing his career, giving him a new lease on life. And then he's tragically taken one of.

[Bo]

The saddest stories, truly, in front of the tour. He's taken.

[Colin]

Absolutely devastating.

[Bo]

Brutal.

[Colin]

So Ozzy's at the. He's you know, he's back. He's at the same crossroads he was once at. He said, I've lost my muse. I've lost my guy.

[Bo]

Truly. He's. That's the best way to do it.

[Colin]

What do I do?

[Bo]

Yeah.

[Colin]

And then Sharon does it again, and she finds a fella named Jake E. Lee.

[Bo]

We were just talking about it.

[Aaron Osborne]

The homie.

[Colin]

And his first order of business. Dude, I'm tearing up right now. His first order of business is a song called Bark at the Moon, where he writes the post chorus riff.

[Bo]

The trend part of that is so fucking cool. Yeah.

[Colin]

That's the second best riff of all time. And then at the end of production, the record is tracked. Sharon hands him a contract and says, here's some money. You get no credit for this record. You are not. You didn't produce this on paper. You did not write it. You were in the band, but you didn't get any credit. He signs it away. He doesn't know anything. Jake A. Lee is not credited as a writer on Barker.

[Aaron Osborne]

That's crazy.

[Colin]

That's insane.

[Aaron Osborne]

Yeah.

[Bo]

That's injustice.

[Colin]

So two records later, he writes some songs. Ozzy says, yeah, I love it. He says, not so fast, buddy. I'm accredited writer or I'm walking.

[Bo]

Fool me once, fool me Twice.

[Colin]

So that goes double platinum. And then Sharon gives him the Voorhees.

[Bo]

Cut through it.

[Colin]

Justice for Jakey Lee. Just so everybody knows, we have reached out to Jakey Lee to have him on the show to tell his story once and for all. Bark at the Moon.

[Bo]

Yeah.

[Colin]

And justice for Jake.

[Bo]

Justice for Jake.

[Colin]

Coming soon to Hard Lore, hopefully.

[Bo]

Is that your favorite Aussie record, would you say?

[Colin]

No. After all that it's got? I mean, it's probably Blizzard of Oz, but still. I mean, Randy. Randy's God, But. But Randy was one where picking a Randy riff is like, how the fuck do I do this?

[Bo]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Colin]

Whereas Bark of the Moon, learning as a teenager that that wasn't Randy.

[Bo]

Yeah, yeah, totally.

[Colin]

And that. That was. Jake was like. He did. He found that again and then found it again in Z later. He keeps getting so lucky and finding these guys that. That change his life. His new muses.

[Aaron Osborne]

Yeah.

[Bo]

What is Jake E. Lee doing anything now, musically?

[Colin]

Yeah, he's got. He's got a band called Jakey Lee's Red Dragon Cartel. You can go see him down at Brick By Brick in San Diego, you know.

[Bo]

Yeah.

[Aaron Osborne]

He's doing Hard Law is what he's doing.

[Colin]

And soon he's fucking doing Hard, though. We're gonna get the full story.

[Bo]

All right, honorable mention before we do our number one picks.

[Aaron Osborne]

Okay. I've got My Honorable Mention is another ode to Australia. This is my only hardcore one that I put in. It's by Mind Snare, probably Australia's premier hardcore product.

[Colin]

Absolutely.

[Bo]

Yeah.

[Aaron Osborne]

They're everyone's goat in Australia, so.

[Bo]

The terror of Australia.

[Aaron Osborne]

Yeah. I mean, and truly, they're like. I mean, I played two shows with them a couple months ago, and, like, those still ripping, like, still.

[Colin]

Oh, I know. They practice five days a week.

[Aaron Osborne]

Oh, yeah. They are shredding still. The song is bulldozed. It's the first song on, and it had the. The riff I chose, though, was the. The breakdown bit at the end because it's just the weirdest. Beltsy, who plays guitar, has just got this weird way of playing guitar, and it's like, no one can write that riff but him.

[Bo]

Aha.

[Aaron Osborne]

And it's just got this, like. Oh. Like, it's really. He's a guitar player's guitar player. And it's one of the best songs of all time.

[Colin]

Playing. Playing Metallic Harcourt.

[Aaron Osborne]

Yeah, exactly.

[Bo]

Kind of the best is what you want. Yeah. Those are the best crossovers.

[Aaron Osborne]

Yeah. Seeing him live, playing that on a Gibson Firebird, like, the weirdest.

[Bo]

Yeah. The biggest guitar ever.

[Aaron Osborne]

And it's. Anyway. Hon.

[Colin]

Beautiful. Love, love the hometown love.

[Bo]

Yeah. My honorable mention. I actually. I crossed off one because I realized I didn't put a Van Halen song in here, and that's. That's sacrilege. And I fucked up because I just blanked. I went with a rare drop D Van Halen song. Unchained.

[Aaron Osborne]

Oh, listen to Beautiful.

[Bo]

Like, as soon as it starts, it's like, oh, this. This song is gonna rip. And, like, it's all 5,000, 150. That is as valid as it gets.

[Aaron Osborne]

The fact. The fact that he invented the amp.

[Bo]

Yes.

[Aaron Osborne]

That every hardcore metal band has used and will continues forever. Forever is insane.

[Colin]

He is the godfather of high gain amplification, and we owe him our lives.

[Bo]

Truly, it is that simple.

[Colin]

And Sir Edward.

[Bo]

Sir. Sir Edward. And oh, I was. Oh. And also the riff is. Sounds straightforward, but it's not. Yeah, it's weird timing.

[Aaron Osborne]

Yeah.

[Bo]

Like, it doesn't. It moves when the drums don't. So it's, like, rarely played correctly, you know? Love that Eddie is Mount Rushmore for sure. He's the Goat, isn't he?

[Colin]

Is George Washington.

[Bo]

The fact that he purposefully buried Dimebag with the yellow brown original guitar, because he was an original, destroys Me?

[Aaron Osborne]

Yeah.

[Bo]

Yeah. It like annihilates me.

[Colin]

You're gonna get me barking at the moon.

[Bo]

It's the. The coolest thing ever. And I. Van Halen is a band that's like, I know a good amount about.

[Aaron Osborne]

Yeah.

[Bo]

But I have the utmost respect for when it comes to like guitar music influence.

[Colin]

Totally, dude.

[Bo]

Because even like before Uniform Choice was Uniform Choice, they were playing Van Halen covers as Uniform Choice in Orange County.

[Aaron Osborne]

Yeah.

[Bo]

You know, I mean, like they. They influenced everything that we know of as guitar music today.

[Aaron Osborne]

Yeah.

[Bo]

And it's fucking awesome.

[Colin]

Beautiful. My honorable mention. I like just swapped with Grimlock right before we started. It is Morbid angel, the opening track from the album Covenant. The breakdown for the song Rapture. You can't even mouth it the way you would mouth something like Metallica.

[Bo]

Right.

[Colin]

Because it's so out of the box. It's in fucking lowercase. G sharp or some shit. It's insane. Unbelievable riff. Hard as shit. Halftime ride, double kick, whoop your ass.

[Aaron Osborne]

He's the Eddie Van Halen of death metal too.

[Colin]

That is a fact. That's a guy. He's playing shit that you like. Unorthodox, out of the box, wacky wacko shit that's somehow heavy and hard.

[Aaron Osborne]

Science cannot define what he's doing.

[Bo]

And truly like the riffs, like, shouldn't work.

[Aaron Osborne]

Yeah.

[Bo]

And that's a good example of like, how is this still heavy? It doesn't.

[Aaron Osborne]

Crazy.

[Bo]

It's awesome.

[Colin]

The. The God of Emptiness riff before the big bridge. The. Wow, that sounds hilarious when I'm singing, singing it like that. And there ain't nothing funny about it when it's being played. Also, a Randy Rhodes riff I think maybe would belong in here is the Believer. Vers Rift.

[Bo]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Colin]

Absolutely insane.

[Bo]

But if we're doing two, I'm throwing in Progeny or Celtic Cross, because that's one that I cut.

[Colin]

Oh yeah.

[Bo]

Respectable single note riff. Like that's as cool as it gets. And. And is iconic from the second the feedback starts. Like, it's perfect. So. Want to put that in there too?

[Aaron Osborne]

I'm giving it's time, guys. Oh, yeah.

[Colin]

Let's go number one all time riff.

[Bo]

Okay, so, Jimmy Bauer, I gotta talk to you.

[Aaron Osborne]

I gotta tell you something.

[Colin]

Naturally.

[Aaron Osborne]

Not only is he fantastic at guitar, he's also fantastic at draw. And one of the things for me about a dope ass riff is it often needs the sickest person taking the reins behind it to drive it forward.

[Bo]

Right. The engine with.

[Colin]

With. With the man who invented the greatest fill into A breakdown of all time. Which is Shaka category.

[Aaron Osborne]

Yep.

[Colin]

So thank you, Jimmy, for that.

[Aaron Osborne]

And if you. If you ever want to know anything about me playing drums, it's that the. The song is off Broken Glass. Like her ever. The. The song itself is I am. And it is the breakdown riff of Forever Another. But the reason I love it so much is because it comes in with.

[Bo]

And that's.

[Colin]

Dude, you only get that from real motherfuckers who have been jamming together their whole lives. Truly.

[Bo]

Yes.

[Colin]

Sink the synchronicity. Musical synchronicity.

[Aaron Osborne]

And to think as well. The other little fact about that he started the band with Kirk. He's not in the band then for like four records. Then he comes back and he just slaps the out.

[Bo]

I got it.

[Aaron Osborne]

I got it, man.

[Colin]

Rocks. And that's. That's one of my favorite examples of Kirk. Kirk having no box.

[Aaron Osborne]

Yeah.

[Bo]

Oh yeah, dude. There.

[Colin]

Where he'll. He'll go all over that neck.

[Aaron Osborne]

Yeah.

[Colin]

And it'll never sound unnatural.

[Aaron Osborne]

Yeah.

[Colin]

Because he's so. He's. He is the goat. He is the riff. God.

[Bo]

Eddie Van Halen of.

[Colin]

Yeah.

[Bo]

Of that.

[Aaron Osborne]

My brain.

[Colin]

Anything down to my brain.

[Bo]

I've been on a huge crowbar kick for the last few months.

[Aaron Osborne]

Yep.

[Bo]

I can't decide between Broken Glass and self titled as my favorite. I think I go self titled. I think that's the one.

[Aaron Osborne]

True.

[Bo]

But I've just been on a huge kick. This song is not on either. Regardless. It's my favorite crowbar riff period. It's beautiful and heavy. It's Planets Collide. That was riff. I love intro Riff. The intro Rift. Dude. And then. And into the Butcher. Like that. And what's. What's cool about is there's little nuances where you can hear them. The ban. Like you hear the power chord come back.

[Aaron Osborne]

Yeah.

[Bo]

That's something that people don't like play right. When you see covers of it or whatever. And like.

[Colin]

Yeah.

[Bo]

I. This is the biggest. This is an Arrakis size earworm for me. This is shy hulude boring into my.

[Colin]

Brain through the brain.

[Bo]

I can't. This is.

[Colin]

Dude. This is raw emotion, dude. Kirk was. I had to have been drying the tears off his sleeves. Well, you don't get that nuance from being a happy guy.

[Bo]

It's. It's in. In like in any other application. It might suck. I don't know.

[Aaron Osborne]

Yeah.

[Colin]

Yeah.

[Bo]

It's so perfect for this band. I love that it's their most played song.

[Aaron Osborne]

Yep.

[Colin]

Yeah.

[Bo]

It's is beautiful and heavy. And that's what Crowbar is. You know, it's. It's the song for me.

[Aaron Osborne]

Amazing.

[Bo]

It's my number one favorite riff of all time.

[Colin]

It's so awesome that you guys both did Crowbar number one. So my number one is a band called Crowbar.

[Bo]

Yeah.

[Colin]

From the album Odd Fellows Rest.

[Aaron Osborne]

Yes.

[Colin]

It is only natural that the best riff of all time is something that inspires destruction to me.

[Aaron Osborne]

Yeah.

[Colin]

And nothing inspires destruction to me more than the breakdown and transition of To Carry the Load. Because not only is the riff insane, that little run at the.

[Bo]

They make you fucking wait for it.

[Aaron Osborne]

Yeah.

[Bo]

I was.

[Colin]

There's no way they're giving it to me.

[Bo]

And I was just talking to James about this literally last week, that it's a minute and a half of build up before the dun, dun, dun, dun, dun.

[Colin]

And then when it comes in, it comes in in the middle of the measure.

[Aaron Osborne]

Yeah, yeah.

[Bo]

Yes.

[Colin]

Where it would go to the other thing. It finally comes in and restarts in the most brilliant way. It is the hardest riff, the heaviest riff ever. The most moshable riff in history is not by a hardcore man. It is by Crowbar. It is to carry the load. This has to be the greatest riff ever for multiple reasons, because it's a. Listen to how complicated that was.

[Bo]

Yeah, Very. It's very.

[Colin]

But we just did the entire thing by mouth, so I shouldn't be able to remember something that nuanced. And the. The tempo, the time the signature gets out of control.

[Bo]

Yeah, yeah.

[Colin]

It's. You know, it's steady, but it's. But it's changing.

[Aaron Osborne]

It's nothing.

[Colin]

There's no click, nothing.

[Bo]

It's not a clip.

[Colin]

There's nothing.

[Bo]

Yeah.

[Colin]

And then it devolves into. And, you know, Kirk is just like. Then we got to give it to him because he understands.

[Bo]

Yeah.

[Colin]

Like, let's just be the heaviest band.

[Bo]

We got to give it to him.

[Colin]

This moment. Gotta give it to him.

[Bo]

Yeah.

[Aaron Osborne]

Jimmy plays. Yeah.

[Colin]

It's beautiful. It's perfect. It is the best rip Cook.

[Aaron Osborne]

Thank you.

[Bo]

Thank you so much. You're the number one.

[Colin]

Our collective number one, apparently. Beautiful. This playlist was.

[Bo]

This playlist is gonna go crazy.

[Colin]

It should start at the top of the three.

[Bo]

I love it. Colin, you know what I would like to do now?

[Colin]

Hit me.

[Bo]

I'd like to talk about some Australian music for a little bit with our remaining time, please. We've been playing with some bands on this run. For those of you who don't know, I am. Harm's Way is in the middle later, half of our Australian tour. And on the store, we have terminal sleep.

[Aaron Osborne]

Yep.

[Bo]

Who are direct support. They're on every show with us. They're awesome.

[Colin]

Great. Bad.

[Bo]

They are. Are fantastic. They fit really well. They are pro as beautiful.

[Colin]

And, yeah, they're doing it.

[Bo]

They will for sure be going places. Like, absolutely. You can see it. It's all. It's often how wrestlers talk about other wrestlers when they're like, that's money. Yeah. I would love to talk about the band Bloodmouth, dude.

[Aaron Osborne]

My boys.

[Colin]

Are you familiar with Bloodmouth, dude?

[Bo]

Colin, you are gonna love this. Yeah, it is some of the heaviest and best, like, drummed. Technical grind, I would call it very heavy. But the gimmick is, remember little Sam, Little mate.

[Colin]

Of course.

[Bo]

Remember Rowan?

[Colin]

Of course.

[Bo]

And two other guys.

[Colin]

Sexy Rowan's in there, too.

[Bo]

Oh, yeah. And they wear military fatigues and body armor and balaclavas.

[Aaron Osborne]

Oh.

[Bo]

They're militantly vegan.

[Colin]

Oh.

[Bo]

And they talk. And, like, the whole. The whole bit is like, how do you know if someone's a vegan? Because they'll kill you. That's the bit. And, like, for. For 22 minutes, I'm vegan.

[Aaron Osborne]

Yeah.

[Colin]

So blood mouth is derogatory.

[Bo]

Yeah, it's. Yes, they are.

[Aaron Osborne]

Blood mouth derogatory.

[Bo]

They are destroying the carnist industrial complex.

[Colin]

Like, he.

[Bo]

Dude, the.

[Colin]

The damn. Turning carnivore into, like, rapist is crazy.

[Bo]

It's crazy.

[Colin]

Carnist is wild.

[Bo]

The. The. The humor that Sam has. He. He'll say, like, I've got something. He'll say, shut up. I've got something to say. I recorded it. And he plays it on a tape recorder because it's like, everything is.

[Colin]

Are they on the whole run with you guys?

[Bo]

No, they only play two shows. Wow. You will. Musically, I know you will like it.

[Colin]

Okay.

[Bo]

The. Like, I don't even want to call it a bit because that sounds derogatory. But, like, their presentation.

[Aaron Osborne]

Yes.

[Bo]

Is incredible.

[Aaron Osborne]

Yeah.

[Colin]

Wow. So it's like, militant carnivore, but not carnivores.

[Bo]

They're writing a song about a cop who went somewhere where he shouldn't. Like, had to try to fix a fence or something. A cop here who got trampled by cows and died. And he was like, that's two birds, one stone. Like, it's the coolest. It's so fucking funny.

[Colin]

Incredible.

[Bo]

And also amazing music.

[Aaron Osborne]

Yeah.

[Colin]

Okay.

[Bo]

I want to talk about beautiful. I want to talk about Half Man. Half man was fucking sick. They only played one show.

[Aaron Osborne]

Yeah. Just the Brisbane show.

[Bo]

Just the Brisbane show. But it was like the kickoff. They were sick. They opened. No, they were like, in a second. Yeah. Fantastic. Just like the vibe is cavemany kind of. Kind of, but. But in like a locking out sense of, like, you know, really dig it. Last night, a band called Implode played here in Melbourne. They're young. They don't even have a demo out. This is probably the newest band we're putting over on the show.

[Colin]

All right.

[Bo]

They covered Sick People by Breakdown. Yeah, they covered Sick People by breakdown. They sound. That's what they sound like. Like. And that's what I want more of in the world. It's like we were saying with fya, where we have bands covering Floor, Punch and Straight Ahead and you to today. I want more of that. That's what we get. And you're gonna have to help me with the band who played Sydney with the guy from Nepal. I can't pronounce the name.

[Aaron Osborne]

Oh, Than Toothicka.

[Bo]

Than Toothicka, which is a Canberra boys camp from Camber.

[Colin]

It's a hometown.

[Aaron Osborne]

Yeah.

[Bo]

It's a Buddhist phrase that I can never remember. It's a three piece. They're awesome.

[Aaron Osborne]

Yeah. Just put out a new ep, too.

[Bo]

And they are, Colin, to your point, the Pitters who are making dope music.

[Aaron Osborne]

These boys whooped ass for the entire Harm's Way set.

[Bo]

They beat ass.

[Aaron Osborne]

They played and then just punch people in the head for 40 minutes.

[Bo]

And at least. Sick of the. The singer homies. Edge. And they're all straight Edge. And the band name for how long.

[Colin]

Will that happen in Australia?

[Bo]

And the band name is.

[Colin]

What's the average Edge? Lifespan?

[Aaron Osborne]

Aaron Short. Than Toothika.

[Bo]

He just said it. And I can't say it again.

[Colin]

Thantothica.

[Bo]

Than Tooth Thicca.

[Aaron Osborne]

Yeah.

[Bo]

And which is some form of enlightenment that is kind of alluding to being Straight Edge.

[Aaron Osborne]

Huge.

[Bo]

Come on.

[Colin]

You hear that? Shelter. Check that out. What do you know about that?

[Bo]

There's lots of bands on these shows. These are. These have been like my favorites that I want to highlight.

[Colin]

Oh, Agloe. Agloe played too.

[Bo]

Aglow is playing tonight, as a matter of fact.

[Colin]

Aglow. Brutal. Aglow. Brutal is back tonight.

[Aaron Osborne]

Drama from Aglow.

[Bo]

That's right.

[Colin]

I played drums on the Aglo lp. Check it out. They got. You have a new song out now, though, right?

[Bo]

Yes, the new. And the new song, as we were saying the other day, is your stride. Oh, yeah, That's. That's.

[Aaron Osborne]

I figured it out.

[Bo]

Yeah, I think so.

[Aaron Osborne]

I was saying to the guys yesterday, I listened to like a Full week of just listening to Time Heals Nothing by Crowbar. Just sat down to play guitar. Song just came out.

[Bo]

Oh, that's it. That's beautiful.

[Colin]

You gonna bring the cowbell back?

[Bo]

It's there.

[Aaron Osborne]

Boy, am I. Yeah.

[Colin]

Good. That should be in every song. It should be Aglow's signature.

[Aaron Osborne]

The funniest thing about recording that with you guys was get to Taylor's house, and he didn't have a cowbell. And so me and Taylor had to go cowbell shopping. And it was probably like the funniest 20 minutes of me and him just.

[Colin]

Testing cowboy walking around microtonal aspects of.

[Aaron Osborne]

Of cowbells and Taylor clearly thinking about what actually.

[Bo]

Yeah.

[Aaron Osborne]

And I was just like, don't, don't. This sounds good. He was like, no, no, no, that's.

[Bo]

That's f. I could really see Taylor being like, sounds like just. It's just being him about it.

[Colin]

He was very supportive of the. Of the cowbell goal. And you asked me to find a spot for it.

[Bo]

Yeah, you did.

[Aaron Osborne]

And you found which.

[Colin]

Man, that spot is unbelievable.

[Bo]

It's funny too, because, like a cowbell has to be used. It kind of has to be the ride, you know?

[Aaron Osborne]

Yeah.

[Bo]

If it's.

[Colin]

It's gotta be. Oh, yes.

[Bo]

Yeah. If it's not some accent. If it's not an accent, like a bell bell. It's got to be the rate.

[Aaron Osborne]

And the reason it's on that and the reason it's in Agloe at all is Oddfellow's Rest.

[Colin]

There you go.

[Bo]

No kidding.

[Aaron Osborne]

Yeah, there's a cowbell in Mudfellow's Rest.

[Bo]

Jimmy Bauer.

[Colin]

A lot of cowbell on Slow, deep and hard.

[Aaron Osborne]

Yeah, dude.

[Colin]

A lot.

[Bo]

And that. Those were real drums too. Interesting.

[Colin]

Yeah. And there's no china. There's cowbell, you know.

[Bo]

Yeah.

[Colin]

They should have brought the digital cowbell back at some point. That's where things went wrong. Yeah. Johnny Kelly dead again. You know, you had your chance. You could have used that cowbell, man. What happened? Well, this. This was. This very fun episode. I had a blast.

[Bo]

Had a blast.

[Aaron Osborne]

Thanks.

[Bo]

What a. What a concept.

[Aaron Osborne]

Oh, yeah.

[Bo]

Favorite riffs.

[Colin]

Just. Just fucking brutal. I'm looking at my. My 46 omissions here.

[Bo]

This is.

[Colin]

I can't. Can't believe it.

[Bo]

This is. Pun intended. And like an ever flowing stream of a subject. We can do part eight of this.

[Colin]

Best riffs, part two, best part six, part 55, easily, no problem. This. These 55 I listed in a minute, so imagine what I could do with two. But yeah, just check out Harm's Way on tour. They'll be done with Tor by the time this episode comes out, so that's perfect.

[Bo]

But Europe is coming up shortly. Europe's coming thereafter, so see you guys. Knock loose. Basement. Harm's Way, pest control.

[Colin]

Listen to Agloe, listen to all the Australian bands that Beau just listed, and listen to Oblivious Maximus, our favorite podcast. I imagine BO will be on it very soon.

[Aaron Osborne]

Yeah, we're trying to figure that out, Mike.

[Colin]

Just if Beau is on it, check that out. If Beau's not on it, definitely check that out. Thank you all for listening. We love you so much, Aaron. You're our favorite guy in the world. We love you so much. Thanks for making this happen.

[Aaron Osborne]

Love you guys.

[Colin]

Love you, too. Hope to see you soon. And everybody watching will see you next week.

[Bo]

Bye.

[Colin]

Ra.