#337: Kite Flub w/ Paul Scheer

Summary

Podcast Summary: Hey Riddle Riddle #337: Kite Flub w/ Paul Scheer

Host/Author: Headgum
Guest: Paul Scheer
Release Date: January 1, 2025

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1. Introduction and Welcome (01:01 - 03:30)

The episode kicks off with the hosts—Aaron Keeving, John Patrick Cohen, and Adol Rifai—engaging in their signature playful banter. They set a lighthearted tone, joking about playing Twister on a cruise and referencing their personal dynamics. The conversation smoothly transitions to introducing their guest, Paul Scheer, who is celebrated for his work in improvisation and comedy.

Notable Quote:

• Adol Refai [03:09]: "You'll see it happen. I feel like that's been my big challenge, that you always have to show the audience that you're actually improvising or they're not going to believe it."

2. Immersive Theater and Escape Rooms (03:30 - 07:00)

The discussion delves into immersive theater, with Paul Scheer expressing his preference for it over escape rooms. He shares his experiences attending shows like Sleep No More and highlights the nuances that differentiate quality immersive experiences from the more generic, often lower-quality escape rooms proliferating everywhere.

Notable Quotes:

• Paul Scheer [03:38]: "I love an escape room. I mean, I really love immersive theater probably more than escape rooms because... no one's really dictating the quality of these things anymore."
• Adol Refai [06:10]: "How did this get made from? Unspooled from a fantastic new book. Joyful recollections of Trauma."

3. Star Wars Hotel and Theme Park Ventures (07:00 - 09:50)

Paul Scheer recounts his experience with the Star Wars-themed hotel at Walt Disney World, discussing its short-lived presence due to high costs and poor planning. The hosts speculate on the future of such niche attractions and share anecdotes about visiting iconic movie houses, including the Breaking Bad house in Santa Fe.

Notable Quote:

• Paul Scheer [07:00]: "It was really short-lived. I think unfortunately it was very expensive and then also bad planning in the sense of..."

4. Transition to Riddles and Spoonerisms (09:50 - 21:00)

Shifting gears, the hosts introduce the episode's main segment: solving riddles based on spoonerisms—where the first letters of a two-word phrase are swapped. Aaron Keeving explains the concept, and the group begins tackling various riddles related to movie titles.

Notable Quote:

• Aaron Keeving [17:05]: "These first riddles are from Tara, inspired by Sandy's Spoonerisms of movie titles."

5. Riddle Solving and Improvised Scenes (21:00 - 40:10)

The core of the episode revolves around solving these spooneristic riddles. The hosts work collaboratively, often improvising humorous scenes based on their answers. For instance, when deciphering "Failing to launch a flying toy on a string" as Fight Club, they create a playful Batman-themed skit. This segment showcases their improvisational skills and chemistry, with Paul Scheer adding his comedic flair.

Notable Quotes:

• Adol Refai [23:05]: "Salt. And Catch Fire."
• Paul Scheer [33:52]: "I can feel it. I mean, that's really what I know. That's the Genesis song, you know, 'coming in the Air Tonight.'"

Improvised Scene Example:

• Batman vs. Linsanity: John Patrick Cohen portrays Batman confronting Paul Scheer’s antagonist, Linsanity, in a humorous battle over rug sales and linoleum floors.

6. Discussion on Improvisation Challenges (40:10 - 57:49)

Post-riddles, the conversation shifts back to improvisation. The hosts and Paul Scheer discuss the intricacies of performing improv, including maintaining spontaneity, building camaraderie among performers, and handling unexpected audience reactions. Paul shares a personal anecdote about a challenging improv show where an audience member disrupted the performance.

Notable Quote:

• Paul Scheer [55:32]: "That's a rough one. Yeah."

7. Closing Remarks and Future Plans (57:49 - End)

As the episode nears its end, the hosts reflect on their experiences and discuss future improvements for their improv segments. They express gratitude towards Paul Scheer for his insights and contributions. The episode concludes with light-hearted moments and a brief mention of upcoming segments, emphasizing their commitment to entertaining their audience through riddles and improvisation.

Notable Quote:

• John Patrick Cohen [53:35]: "I'm gonna start writing."

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Key Insights and Takeaways:

• Spoonerism Riddles: The use of spoonerisms to create riddles adds a unique twist to the traditional riddle format, challenging both the guests and listeners to think outside the box.

• Improvisational Chemistry: The seamless interplay between the hosts and Paul Scheer highlights the importance of chemistry and quick thinking in successful improvisational comedy.

• Challenges in Immersive Theater: Paul Scheer’s experiences underscore the delicate balance between creativity and practicality in producing immersive theatrical experiences.

• Audience Engagement: The hosts emphasize the significance of engaging the audience in improv, ensuring that performances feel spontaneous and authentic.

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Conclusion:
In episode #337 of Hey Riddle Riddle, the hosts collaborate with Paul Scheer to explore the realms of riddles and improvisational comedy. Through engaging discussions, challenging riddles, and spontaneous skits, the episode offers both entertainment and insight into the art of improv. Whether you're a riddle enthusiast or a comedy aficionado, this episode provides a delightful blend of intellect and humor.

Transcript

[Aaron Keeving]

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[John Patrick Cohen]

The doctor was the mother. He stood on a block of ice. Both of them were goldfish. It was the cannon of an airplane. He stabbed him with an ice away. And the horse's name.

[Paul Scheer]

Right.

[Aaron Keeving]

Okay. Left hand, red.

[John Patrick Cohen]

Okay.

[Adol Refai]

Left hand, right.

[John Patrick Cohen]

Yeah.

[Adol Refai]

Easy. Left hand, red. Easy.

[Aaron Keeving]

Right foot, yellow.

[Paul Scheer]

Okay.

[Adol Refai]

Right next to red. This could not be simpler.

[John Patrick Cohen]

This is left hand, right foot. Easy, Easy.

[Aaron Keeving]

Left hand. Riddle.

[Adol Refai]

Huh? I don't see a riddle. Oh, there's one. There's one riddle circle, but it's way over there.

[John Patrick Cohen]

Way over there. Oh, I see what this is. This is one of those things where you try to get your friends to, like, hook up.

[Adol Refai]

Oh, yeah, yeah.

[John Patrick Cohen]

Nice try. No, I'm on the way over here. Nice try.

[Aaron Keeving]

Wait, what?

[John Patrick Cohen]

We're not. Aw, man.

[Aaron Keeving]

You guys, are you getting back together? I don't have to parent trap you anymore.

[John Patrick Cohen]

Oh, God.

[Adol Refai]

You were parent trapping us. Is that why we're playing Twister on this cruise?

[Aaron Keeving]

Yes. And I sent you guys to the same summer camp. Wait, no, that's the opposite. And so in this, that's what the parents did. Sorry.

[Adol Refai]

And JPC and I are twins or we're lovers.

[Aaron Keeving]

I'm Lindsay Lohan. You're the parents.

[John Patrick Cohen]

I feel like we're talking a lot about movies, which has to suck for our guests because I'm sure that they have a ton of opinions about the movies that we're talking about. So I feel like we just kind of have to get them in there.

[Adol Refai]

Yeah. Twister was a movie we talked about.

[Aaron Keeving]

All right, let him out. Let him out of the trunk.

[Adol Refai]

From. How did this get made from? Unspooled from a fantastic new book. Joyful recollections of Trauma.

[John Patrick Cohen]

Joyful recollections of Childhood Trauma.

[Adol Refai]

Paul Scheer.

[Paul Scheer]

Hello, everybody. How are you? I'm so excited to be here. That is the title. Don't let it scare you. It's not a book that's gonna bum you out.

[Adol Refai]

I very much enjoy the Home Alone chapter. Oh, thanks so much. You write about being a kid and being scared of, like, adults in the neighborhood. I very much related with just how that all played out and having a weapon in the house and everything. It's a fantastic book and very much resonated with me when I was a child.

[Paul Scheer]

Oh, man. Well, I really appreciate that. Thank you so much, Paul.

[Adol Refai]

Thank you for coming on this show. We're going to be doing some riddles. How do you feel about riddles? What's your relationship with riddles? Lateral thinking problems, even escape rooms.

[Paul Scheer]

I love an escape room. I mean, I really love immersive theater probably more than escape rooms because, you know, it seems like everybody now can just, you know, have an escape room. It just seems like all you need is a. Is like a small studio apartment. And. And I feel like no one's really dictating the quality of these things anymore.

[Aaron Keeving]

Sounds like you're going to a lot of unsanctioned escape rooms and people sanctioned at this point.

[Paul Scheer]

You don't have to, you know, look, a restaurant, you got to get that grade, that A. That B on the window. Escape room doesn't have that.

[Aaron Keeving]

That's true. It's a Wild West End.

[Adol Refai]

I can't use it for a clue.

[John Patrick Cohen]

I don't know if I saw a B. I don't think I would go into one of those restaurants. Right. I think it's all A's.

[Paul Scheer]

Well, no, they got to put the bee up. I've seen bees.

[John Patrick Cohen]

But you're not going into the bee room.

[Paul Scheer]

No, you're not going to go into them. But it depends. But like, if it's like Pink's Hot Dogs or something like that, they may have a bee and you have to. Well, yeah, like, I'm not going to go fine dining at a bee, but.

[John Patrick Cohen]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure, for sure.

[Paul Scheer]

Because I'll eat a dirty hot dog.

[John Patrick Cohen]

Yeah, it's a little dirty.

[Adol Refai]

Now, Paul, you said you like immersive theater. Have you been to Sleep no More?

[Paul Scheer]

Oh, my gosh. Three times. Closing down now. Yeah, yeah.

[Adol Refai]

I think this next couple weeks here or something do you find in immersive theater, did you treat it like an escape room the first time you went in terms of maybe specifically sleep no more. Did you try and go through drawers and find.

[Paul Scheer]

I did, yeah. And then I realized very quickly like that was a futile effort, you know. And really what you're supposed to do is just kind of enjoy the experience. I think I really enjoy being like lost in a world and just kind of being a part of something. There's been a few really cool ones here in Los Angeles where there are games within them. You're not trying to escape a room, but you are playing a part in a larger story. Like there's one that I went to about two years ago around Halloween. Cause it seems like they always pop up around Halloween where you were, you know, I went twice again because I like to go twice to see how it changes. And at one point I was, you know, told to poison somebody or not poison that person. That affected the end result of the actual show. And that was really fun. And you know, there's a lot of different things you can kind of see. I think it's a really interesting challenge, but if done well, if done poorly, you know, it's a mess. We actually on how did this get made, had the lead, not designer, but the experience creator for the Star wars hotel, which is something I really wanted to experience.

[Adol Refai]

Oh shit.

[Paul Scheer]

Yeah, that sounds amazing. Down in Walt Disney World. Yeah.

[Aaron Keeving]

Did that last like a year and a half? That was so short lived, right? It was crazy.

[Paul Scheer]

It was really short lived. Yeah. I think unfortunately it was very expensive and then also bad planning in the sense of, hey, I just spent all this money to take my family to Walt Disney World, which is getting more and more expensive by the year. It's not like a casual thing, vacation spot. And then I'm going to cut myself off from that to do this specialty Star wars hotel, which I just think doesn't make that much sense. It's like you're going to Disney World to then go to Disney World. Like, you know, you're like, you know, and you know, it's more expensive. It's all this sort of stuff. I wish that they would just do it for like six weeks every year. I think that would be a better way to maybe run it or something like that. You know, just keep it open because it's. They have the infrastructure.

[Aaron Keeving]

Yeah.

[John Patrick Cohen]

I was there earlier this year in Disney World and it's still there. Like infrastructure is still. It's like there's.

[Paul Scheer]

It's a big giant building. Yeah, yeah.

[John Patrick Cohen]

It's already been built.

[Paul Scheer]

Well, that's why I'm like wondering if they are going to reopen it. I don't understand how they didn't quite, you know, figure out like the cost effectiveness of it. Like, it seems to me like we all can look at that and go, yeah, that's a really tough idea to tell people who are paying so much money to then go off and not enjoy the theme park that you are paying money to go to. Like, it's like, it just seems complicated. Like they should have done it somewhere else. They could have done it here in Los Angeles, honestly. Because, you know, at least in LA there's less stuff to see, right?

[Aaron Keeving]

People are starved for that out here.

[Paul Scheer]

Yeah, well, I mean, people are going to really crappy. And that's the other version of this. Sorry. Escape rooms and immersive bars. They're all kind of. And then these other Instagram museums, everything's kind of merging together in this weird way and I feel like I am, I am mixed on it. I feel like there's a lot of bad in the, in this thing. It's like we're immersed, we are there challenges, who knows? But like, you know, it. I feel like sometimes the simple is better. Like in and out, secret menu. Like, let's keep it on that level. We don't need to be building like Kevin McAllister's house just so you can take a picture of being in his bedroom. Like, you know, it's like, what else is there to do?

[John Patrick Cohen]

And we actually have that house in Chicago.

[Paul Scheer]

I know you can go to that.

[John Patrick Cohen]

House and get the fucking picture if you want.

[Paul Scheer]

Well, but you know that they have now opened an immersive home alone experience in London of all time where you just walk around Kevin McAllister's house. It's fully recreated and that's that.

[Aaron Keeving]

I don't want to judge that because if they did that with like the father of the bride house, I would go every year.

[Paul Scheer]

You probably could just walk. I'm sure that that one you can do in LA easily.

[Aaron Keeving]

Oh, they know my car. I sometimes just go and sit outside of it just to feel close. Okay.

[John Patrick Cohen]

So I did, I did go to the, the Breaking Bad house when I was in. Where is that? Santa Fe.

[Aaron Keeving]

Now you're on a watch list, New Mexico?

[John Patrick Cohen]

Well, I went there, but like it's like a real house that people live in and there was like a car parked in the driveway with like the lights on. And so my wife and I just kind of drove past. We were like, we're not going to do this. Someone's at home.

[Paul Scheer]

It's a real bummer because, you know, it's Almost like the. The studio should buy that house. Right? Like they should. Because it's not gonna be fun to live there or next to it. Or next to it. Yeah, it really is. I saw that Breaking Bad house at one point and they had like big like chain link fence around it. Cause people were just getting too close to it.

[John Patrick Cohen]

You know, People were throwing pizzas up on the roof for a while too.

[Paul Scheer]

Yes, it seems like that. Yeah, that stops.

[John Patrick Cohen]

Someone kind was like, we should be stopping this.

[Aaron Keeving]

If I lived there, I'd be like, free pizza. As long as it's hot, you can.

[Paul Scheer]

Throw pizza on the roof.

[Adol Refai]

Roof pizza.

[Aaron Keeving]

Roof pizza.

[Adol Refai]

I just saw a thing.

[John Patrick Cohen]

That's a B grade.

[Adol Refai]

I just saw a thing yesterday where I think this is in England. Wherever they shot Teletubbies, which is like this picturesque little meadow or something. Wherever they shot that, I guess people kept showing up to this guy's property to take photos or do videos on that land. So the guy got so annoyed, he flooded it. He just made a lake out of the area, the set. So I do agree with Paul, where it's like, step in, pay the extra money to just like buy that property if the person wants to sell. So they don't have to deal with like the harassment of like constantly people.

[Paul Scheer]

Trespassing or you monetize it in some way. Because it's like the, you know, hobbit land, you know, and when you go to New Zealand, go there, you take your pictures. We'll do the whole thing. We'll give you, you know, we'll give you the whole experience. But I do think that that's the issue is, like, people want something, so you need to set it up. My friend lives across the street from the house from Halloween. And every day throughout the entire year, they have a pumpkin right out in front of the house. There you go. You got it right. Like, there's always something you can drive by. You can feel good about it, you know, Bo Burnham shot his special in the Freddy Krueger Nightmare on Elm street house. Like that special. Like when he was in the house the entire time. That was the nightmare. Yeah, you know, there's so many of these houses, but it's. Yeah, like whenever I drive by the Doc Brown house, I get excited, but I'm not stopping and jumping out there, you know.

[Aaron Keeving]

Paul, I would love if you did Hollywood tours around.

[Paul Scheer]

I would love it.

[Aaron Keeving]

I would go.

[Paul Scheer]

One of my first. One of my first gigs that I ever had was I worked on the show called Make My Day. And it was a Ill fated. It wasn't even a WB show. I think it was a CD W show or whatever. You know, it was WB where it was like. Because I remember that when you would call, like, the main office, the. The person would have to answer the phone and go, like, there's like, well, hello and welcome to the D. Wb. You know, it's like they have to do the Michigan J. Frog thing.

[Aaron Keeving]

That sucks.

[Paul Scheer]

So we did this show as a. Based on a British show called Make My Day. And the premise was it was a positive prank show. So from the moment you got up to the end of the day, you were on a prank show and you didn't know it, but we had created a perfect day for you in this. In this, like, you know, in knowing everything about you. Like, we've had a dossier. Your friends had set you up, and we created this amazing day. So I was a writer on that, and I was in all the episodes. And one of the things I got to do was this tour bus in New York City, we rented a tour bus. I was on it, and it was called Celebrity Fishing. I was dressed like a fisherman. I had a fishing pole, and I would go out with my fishing pole and pull celebrities into the bus. And obviously it was all set up, and I fished in. Mario Lopez, who just happened. Well, happened to be walking on the street, and then Mario Lopez and this girl had a really fun day together.

[Adol Refai]

That's incredible.

[Aaron Keeving]

So funny.

[John Patrick Cohen]

That's so wild for someone to, like, get through that day and then to be told it was on a fun prank show and be like, okay, so, like, nothing good.

[Paul Scheer]

Yeah, that was kind of like the. That was kind of the bummer of it on some level, because there were these moments where, you know, this one guy, he had this amazing day where he. He basically was, like, helping kid from kid and play, like, create a new rap song. And he'd always been wanting to do that. And, you know, then you're like, oh, it's fake. And, you know, and. And look, overall, it was a very positive thing. And I think people felt good. I think they were heartbroken at first, but, you know, it wasn't meant to make you look like an idiot. Like, that wasn't part of it. It was really how you reacted to this stuff. But what I did love was we shot all, like, 12 episodes of it. And then the head of the network at that point was like, we don't do positive prank shows. We all only do negative prank shows. And at that point, the number one prank show that they had was a fake American Idol where they were pushing through all the worst people.

[Adol Refai]

Oh, no.

[Paul Scheer]

And at the end, it was. It's. I'm sure you can find this on YouTube. But at the end, it was a gut wrenching moment because they're like, you won. You won. The person's like, oh, my God. Oh, my God. I won. I won. Yes, you're the worst singer. And they're like, what? And they're. Yeah, yeah, you. This is a contest. You're the worst. And. But. But don't worry, we're going to get you singing lessons and you'll be better. And it was so. It was so fucked up.

[Aaron Keeving]

And the person who created that show just went home at night and slept and, like, had a normal life.

[Paul Scheer]

I know, I know.

[John Patrick Cohen]

That's a big bag of money.

[Paul Scheer]

Like, I remember just like, Like, I don't know who thought that was a great idea, but it was such, like, you know, again, I was very young when that show came out and I was excited to see the. I was like, yeah, these fucking idiots. Let's let him, like, let you know. And, man, it was gut wrenching to watch, you know, somebody's, you know. Cause they've been. They've been fooled for so long.

[John Patrick Cohen]

I think I know who would think that was a good idea. And it's about six guys and girls that I went to high school. And I can. And I still can tell you their faces pretty clear. And their names, all their names, of course.

[Paul Scheer]

By the way, the show is called Superstar usa. It was a WB show.

[Adol Refai]

Sorry, Paul. A what show?

[Paul Scheer]

Wb.

[Aaron Keeving]

There you go.

[Paul Scheer]

And guess who it was created by. The creator of the bat Bachelor, Mike Fleiss. Oh, wow. Yeah.

[Aaron Keeving]

Another public humiliation.

[Paul Scheer]

Yes. And then the three judges were Tone Loke, Vitamin C, and Christopher Briggs, who also was a producer. And I imagine if I show up.

[John Patrick Cohen]

To a show and I see Tone Loke and Vitamin C as the judges, I'm like, this is a break show. I'm sure a break show.

[Paul Scheer]

Now, can I tell you this? Now I'm looking on this Wikipedia and I just have to share this with you, Please. They told the live audience that they didn't want the live audience to be laughing at the singers. So they told them that they were all terminally ill young people who are having a wish fulfilled by children.

[Adol Refai]

What are you talking about?

[Aaron Keeving]

Oh, my God.

[Paul Scheer]

Yeah. Could you.

[John Patrick Cohen]

This seems like. And we've established some safeguards so stuff like this can't happen anymore. Right? This seems like a bad time.

[Aaron Keeving]

It's honestly impressive. To make every wrong choice like that is like batting a thousand of the next wrong thing to do.

[John Patrick Cohen]

We're talking about this is Iraq war era. So it's like we were as a country making some really bad choices. Just blanket without no accountability.

[Aaron Keeving]

Turning left. We're like all left.

[Paul Scheer]

It is really, I mean, really rough stuff. Yikes. Yikes.

[John Patrick Cohen]

Hey, speaking of bad choices and rough stuff, Aaron, you're going to give us some riddles today, right?

[Aaron Keeving]

Yes. Believe it or not, we are a riddles, puzzles and improv podcast.

[Paul Scheer]

Yes. I love.

[Aaron Keeving]

Sorry. This is a prank. Paul, we're so sorry. We're setting you up to humiliate you publicly on a riddle podcast.

[John Patrick Cohen]

And it's not the one where you get to have a really good day. It's the one where you get to have kind of like an uncomfortable 40 minutes where you're like, these are riddles.

[Adol Refai]

What?

[Paul Scheer]

Oh, no. Oh, no.

[Aaron Keeving]

Well, these first riddles are from Tara, inspired by Sandy's Spoonerisms of movie titles. So how do you explain spoonerisms? It's like when you're so.

[Adol Refai]

Spoonerism.

[Aaron Keeving]

Yeah. Adol. You go. You go.

[Adol Refai]

I believe invented by Shel Silverstein. It's where you put the. You swap the first letters of a two word phrase. So instead of cold pizza, it might be pulled pizza. Terrible example.

[Paul Scheer]

Got it. No, you know, I think this is actually. This actually got me on Wheel of Fortune. I was on Wheel of Fortune and they have a similar kind of category. And it was like, it was like, I forget the clue, but it was like, name this Star wars assassin. And it was Darth Hader, which is like Darth Vader and Bill Hader. Darth. Maybe I'm not giving you the right clue, but that was the answer on the board that none of us could get. Darth haters.

[Adol Refai]

It's almost like a before and after. But.

[Paul Scheer]

Yeah, yeah, but I guess you're right. But it's not exactly the same because we're not flipping. It's not like it's not Barth. Yeah, it's not Barth.

[Aaron Keeving]

I will have some of those later.

[Paul Scheer]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[John Patrick Cohen]

Okay, so this one we're just swapping like the first letter.

[Aaron Keeving]

Yes.

[John Patrick Cohen]

Or the first sentence. So like, if it's cold pizza. Fuck.

[Adol Refai]

Tiggle Bitties is the. If we want to go back to grade school, tigglebiddies is the best example.

[Aaron Keeving]

And why, why is that the best example? And why is it the best example? And yeah, but also. So the clue is going to be for the Boone. So you're we're working backwards, you'll see. This is. I'll give you the example and that will make sense. Okay, okay, the example is this movie is about a prohibition on floor coverings. And the movie came out in 1989.

[Paul Scheer]

Okay, so prohibition.

[Adol Refai]

So it's going to be a two word title, right, Aaron?

[Aaron Keeving]

Prohibition on floor coverings. And again it's for the spoonerism, not the actual movie title.

[Adol Refai]

Now tiles. Tiles is the first word I think of when I think of floor covering. Could be rugs. A rug stuff. A rug.

[John Patrick Cohen]

All I can think of is lutfoofs.

[Aaron Keeving]

It's like a rug that doesn't connect to the walls. It is usually small.

[Paul Scheer]

Oh, okay, so like a floor, like an area. Area rug.

[Aaron Keeving]

Oh, you said. Someone said it. Maybe Rug. No, doormat.

[Paul Scheer]

Rug.

[Aaron Keeving]

Not the door part.

[Paul Scheer]

Mat.

[Aaron Keeving]

Mat. Mat. And then if it's a prohibition of mats.

[Adol Refai]

Oh, a prohibition.

[John Patrick Cohen]

Bandman.

[Aaron Keeving]

Yep, you got it.

[Adol Refai]

Batman.

[Aaron Keeving]

Batman.

[John Patrick Cohen]

Wow.

[Adol Refai]

Michael.

[Aaron Keeving]

Michael Keaton's Matt 1989 Batman.

[Paul Scheer]

Okay, okay, now I'm understanding. So these clues are not. I was thinking like road to perdition. I was thinking like untouchables. A coen brother. Yeah, okay, so I don't. Okay, got it. So I am going. I gotta go out of. I gotta really go far away from this.

[John Patrick Cohen]

Yeah, the clues are just to get us to words. But the clue itself has nothing to do with the movie.

[Aaron Keeving]

Clue will not make the movie seem familiar at all.

[Paul Scheer]

Okay, got it.

[Adol Refai]

Okay, I do want to see a quick scene.

[Aaron Keeving]

Oh, okay.

[Adol Refai]

More of like a public commercial. Jpc. I would like you to be Matman, local salesman who sells sort of rugs and carpets and mats. And Paul, at some point I would like you to enter as the, whatever the Matman joker version is, the villain in this.

[Paul Scheer]

Okay, great.

[John Patrick Cohen]

Come on down to Matt Man's rug warehouse. We're having a big sale on rugs all weekend long. 40, 50, 60% off rugs. As a child I was beaten by a rug by my stepfather who was a real dick and it made me terrified of rugs. And now I've taken that back on me and now I'm the mat man.

[Paul Scheer]

Not so fast, Matt man. It's me. That's right, it's Linsanity, the linoleum salesman who's coming in with the easiest way to clean your floors. Spill anything on it, milk, blood, whatever it is, don't get those dirty, dirty rugs.

[John Patrick Cohen]

Linsanity, you fucking bastard. I'll kill you with my hands. I swear to God I will.

[Paul Scheer]

But you'll Slip on my linoleum floor, try to catch me.

[John Patrick Cohen]

Oh, my back. Oh, my fucking back.

[Aaron Keeving]

Do you want us to cut or keep rolling?

[John Patrick Cohen]

No, this is all in the script.

[Paul Scheer]

We work together. Yeah. I do one side of the story. It's hard to actually keep the business open yet.

[John Patrick Cohen]

Batman, he breaks his back and then he has to rebuild himself to go fight Liv sanity in the next movie.

[Adol Refai]

Frank Miller.

[Aaron Keeving]

Okay. Take all my money. This all sounds very, very terrible. I can't wait to watch it. Okay, here we go. Failing to launch a flying toy on a string.

[Adol Refai]

Okay.

[John Patrick Cohen]

Failing to launch.

[Paul Scheer]

Kite.

[Aaron Keeving]

Yeah, kite.

[Paul Scheer]

Kite. So kite is one.

[Aaron Keeving]

Failing and failing.

[Adol Refai]

What year is this movie from, Aaron? Does it say.

[Aaron Keeving]

Yes, the movie is from 1999.

[Paul Scheer]

Oh, like bad kite or. But kite bite. Kite or kite flub.

[Aaron Keeving]

Kite.

[Adol Refai]

Kite flub.

[Aaron Keeving]

And then what would the movie be?

[John Patrick Cohen]

Kite flub.

[Adol Refai]

Kite flub.

[Aaron Keeving]

But what would the movie be?

[John Patrick Cohen]

Fight Club.

[Aaron Keeving]

Fight Club. Yes.

[Paul Scheer]

Okay.

[Adol Refai]

I say. Okay.

[John Patrick Cohen]

She wanted us to say the part that we all knew, but.

[Paul Scheer]

Yeah. Right.

[John Patrick Cohen]

We're too busy saying bite, bite, flub. Kite Club.

[Aaron Keeving]

The lower extremities of people who make fun of others. And this is 2004.

[John Patrick Cohen]

All right, so bullies.

[Aaron Keeving]

Bullies or bully features who make fun of others.

[John Patrick Cohen]

Lower extremities.

[Aaron Keeving]

It's like if you do an impression of someone, you're mock. Ooh, you got it.

[Paul Scheer]

Mockers.

[John Patrick Cohen]

Meet the Fockers. Meet the Fockers.

[Paul Scheer]

Oh, wow.

[Aaron Keeving]

Feet the Mockers.

[John Patrick Cohen]

Feet the Mockers.

[Paul Scheer]

Feet the Mockers.

[Aaron Keeving]

The Fockers.

[Adol Refai]

Feet the Meaters.

[Aaron Keeving]

A basic seasoning that is not very close to you. And this is 2014.

[Adol Refai]

Distant Spice.

[Aaron Keeving]

It was like a teen movie.

[John Patrick Cohen]

Salt.

[Aaron Keeving]

Yes.

[John Patrick Cohen]

Okay, we got the salt.

[Adol Refai]

Salt. And Catch Fire.

[Paul Scheer]

That was a teen movie. So salt.

[Adol Refai]

She salt that.

[Aaron Keeving]

And when it's up.

[Paul Scheer]

Oh, yeah, she salt that. She salt that.

[John Patrick Cohen]

That's a different game.

[Aaron Keeving]

What's the first one when something is not very close to you? It's far. Yep. So far. Salts far.

[Paul Scheer]

Fault.

[Aaron Keeving]

Far.

[Adol Refai]

The Fault in Our Stars.

[Aaron Keeving]

Yes. The Fault in Our Stars.

[Adol Refai]

Hank Green. John Green.

[Aaron Keeving]

John Green.

[John Patrick Cohen]

The Fault in Our Stars. There were extra words in that one.

[Aaron Keeving]

That really sounds like an excuse. Sounds like a bunch of cowards coming up with an excuse.

[John Patrick Cohen]

That's what it is. Kind of what it is.

[Aaron Keeving]

That movie is way too sad, by the way.

[Paul Scheer]

Well, yeah. It's about a kid who's dying of cancer, right?

[Aaron Keeving]

Yeah. I guess. They never promised it wouldn't be sad. They didn't.

[Adol Refai]

Eren. I've never read it. By the end. Do you learn that it's not a kid dying of cancer, but someone they're pranking.

[Aaron Keeving]

Yes, exactly.

[Adol Refai]

Okay.

[Paul Scheer]

Yeah.

[John Patrick Cohen]

Aaron, isn't that also what a walk to remember is about as well?

[Aaron Keeving]

Yeah. And she goes, whatever you do, don't fall in love with me. And he goes, I won't. You're a nerd. And then he falls in love with her, and then she dies.

[John Patrick Cohen]

And then she gets cancer.

[Aaron Keeving]

Yeah, she had cancer the whole time.

[John Patrick Cohen]

Always the way. Oh, twist.

[Aaron Keeving]

Ain't that just the way? Okay. Hitting a high schooler. Strappy shoes with your foot. This one's hard. 1984 cleat. Because this one is, like, kind of a mess. This one's really hard.

[Paul Scheer]

Strappy shoes. Strappy shoes. I feel like a high schooler.

[John Patrick Cohen]

Strappy shoes.

[Paul Scheer]

Is that freshman or senior? Classman.

[Aaron Keeving]

It's like the kind of the age range a high schooler would be.

[Paul Scheer]

Teen.

[Aaron Keeving]

Yes.

[Paul Scheer]

Not another teen movie or. No.

[Aaron Keeving]

So teen will. Wait, wait.

[Paul Scheer]

Spaghetti straps.

[John Patrick Cohen]

Do we need to get strappy shoes now?

[Aaron Keeving]

Yes. What's a strappy shoe that you'd wear in the summer?

[Adol Refai]

Is it the sandal?

[Aaron Keeving]

Yeah, Sandal.

[Paul Scheer]

Rabbit. Sandal. Sandal. Teen.

[Aaron Keeving]

Teen. Sandals. What rhymes with sandals?

[Paul Scheer]

Team Vandal. American Vandal.

[Aaron Keeving]

No, American. Handle on Netflix.

[John Patrick Cohen]

It rhymes with sandals.

[Aaron Keeving]

It rhymes with sandals.

[Adol Refai]

No, this is handle. Oh.

[Aaron Keeving]

So, like, if you can't get it, then what rhymes with sandals?

[Adol Refai]

Handles.

[Aaron Keeving]

That is from a famous 1984. Sandals. 16 sandals. 16 candles.

[Paul Scheer]

Wow.

[Adol Refai]

Can you imagine being a teenage candle?

[Paul Scheer]

Well, you've lived a very long life. I mean, if you're able to get a couple years in.

[John Patrick Cohen]

Yeah. Most candles do not last that long at all.

[Aaron Keeving]

Red in Spanish. Plus, what a nurse might say to her vaccination trainee.

[Adol Refai]

Rojo.

[Aaron Keeving]

And this is 2019.

[John Patrick Cohen]

RoJo. RoJo.

[Aaron Keeving]

Yep.

[Paul Scheer]

RoJo.

[John Patrick Cohen]

And then what a nurse might say to their vaccination trainee. Is that right?

[Aaron Keeving]

Yeah. Like how you give someone a shot. This one's also very, very hard. 2019. Remember what was in, like, the award circuit in 2019? This was sort of like a dark comedy. The premise is pretty wild, but they made it work.

[John Patrick Cohen]

Roholand.

[Aaron Keeving]

No. What is that? Oh, la la land.

[Paul Scheer]

2019. All right. And this is like a big. This is a big one.

[Aaron Keeving]

Yeah, it got its flowers, but I haven't really heard people talk about it since it came out, but I thought it was good.

[John Patrick Cohen]

Then I have memory. Hold it. Okay, so roho is one of the words, right?

[Paul Scheer]

Roho.

[Aaron Keeving]

Mm. Well, roho's not obviously one of the words in it, because.

[John Patrick Cohen]

But there's A spoonerism. So OHO is gonna be in there, right? Or so Soho.

[Aaron Keeving]

But think about Rojo is spelled R.

[Paul Scheer]

O. J O. J O. J O.

[Aaron Keeving]

So it's something that ends with O.J. o. The first word.

[Adol Refai]

Jojo.

[Aaron Keeving]

Yep.

[Adol Refai]

Jojo.

[Aaron Keeving]

Yeah.

[Adol Refai]

Jojo's Rabbit. Jojo.

[Aaron Keeving]

Yeah.

[John Patrick Cohen]

Jojo Rabbit.

[Paul Scheer]

Wow.

[Aaron Keeving]

Jojo Jabbit. Jojo Rabbit.

[Paul Scheer]

This is. Wow.

[Aaron Keeving]

I'd like to see a scene.

[John Patrick Cohen]

This is a mind fuck.

[Aaron Keeving]

Paul, you are.

[Paul Scheer]

Wait, what is she saying to. What is she. Sorry. What is she saying to the. Her intern?

[Aaron Keeving]

Jabbit.

[Paul Scheer]

Jab it. Got it.

[John Patrick Cohen]

I don't know. That, to me, sounds like there should.

[Paul Scheer]

Be more medical terms being used.

[Aaron Keeving]

I'd like to see a scene. Paul, you are training ADOL to give shots and gbc. You're the person that they're practicing on, and you're a little bit nervous.

[John Patrick Cohen]

Okay?

[Paul Scheer]

Okay, so what I want you to do is just jab it. Wherever you see skin, just jab it in. It will work.

[John Patrick Cohen]

Pause. So pause. Are we sure that we're doing this? We should be doing this on a person because it feels like, yes.

[Paul Scheer]

Anybody? It's good. The shot is good for anyone. You just jab them with the shot and it'll be fine. It'll be fine. It will work. It will work. You don't even have to find veins anymore. This is how good it is. This is how the vaccinations are so good.

[Adol Refai]

And doctor, this is sort of like when you were teaching me how to do a heart transplant when you told me, just have fun with it. It's kind of like that.

[Aaron Keeving]

Yes.

[Paul Scheer]

I showed you that movie with the moloram, and I said, just go in, you take that one out and you put the other one in. Just like Indiana Jones. Yes.

[Adol Refai]

Oh, perfect. Perfect. Oh, man. Alfred Molina. Oof.

[John Patrick Cohen]

Okay, so just so you know, if I see blood, sometimes I get, like, a reaction to seeing.

[Paul Scheer]

Oh, no, no. If you do it. If you do it quick and walk out of the room, you'll never see blood. You just jab it and you run out. Just get people. Just get them real quick. I've been doing it on the street, you know, because you have to make sure everyone gets their vaccinations. So I just run up to people, jab them, and then run. We don't need the needles back. We don't. Because it's dirty. It's bad to keep the needles.

[Adol Refai]

Okay. Sir, do you have any issues with your neck?

[John Patrick Cohen]

Oh, yes.

[Adol Refai]

Okay. I was going to dab him in the neck real quick. I probably. Dr. Probably shouldn't tell him where. Okay.

[Paul Scheer]

Yeah, yeah, you don't tell him. You have to make it surprised. Make them look over, like, go say, hey, look at this bird.

[John Patrick Cohen]

More recently, my issue with my neck is I think I was walking down the street like a couple weeks ago, and I think that someone jabbed something into my neck. And so now I wear this cloth.

[Paul Scheer]

Hold on, let me see. Were you wearing. Were you wearing like a Knicks hat?

[John Patrick Cohen]

Yeah, I was. I was wearing a nick hat.

[Paul Scheer]

Oh, yes. That was you.

[John Patrick Cohen]

Yeah.

[Paul Scheer]

Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. That was a good one. Yeah.

[John Patrick Cohen]

You.

[Paul Scheer]

You screamed.

[John Patrick Cohen]

Oh, yeah.

[Adol Refai]

What's this behind your ear? Oh, needle broke.

[Paul Scheer]

Sorry.

[John Patrick Cohen]

Same spot.

[Adol Refai]

Same spot that was right?

[John Patrick Cohen]

Yep.

[Paul Scheer]

That's great. That was good. You see? That was very good.

[Aaron Keeving]

Perfect. We have two more of these, and then we're gonna go on a quick break. A long journey for a single foot covering. And this is 2004, so kind of prime prank TV show time.

[Paul Scheer]

Yeah.

[John Patrick Cohen]

A single foot covering.

[Aaron Keeving]

A long journey.

[Paul Scheer]

Not a walk. Maybe a trek.

[Aaron Keeving]

A trek.

[Paul Scheer]

A trek.

[Aaron Keeving]

And then a foot covering.

[Paul Scheer]

Star Trek. But maybe it's a tarp. Not a sock.

[Aaron Keeving]

No. What goes over the sock?

[Paul Scheer]

A long.

[Aaron Keeving]

A shoe.

[Adol Refai]

Shrek shoe. Oh, Shrek 2.

[Aaron Keeving]

Yes, Shrek.

[Paul Scheer]

Shrek shoe.

[John Patrick Cohen]

Oh, God.

[Aaron Keeving]

My favorite of the Shrek's the best.

[John Patrick Cohen]

These make my brain, like, tickle. I can, like, feel like the base of my brain tickling when.

[Adol Refai]

Aaron, if I'm thinking.

[Aaron Keeving]

Are you trying to describe thinking?

[John Patrick Cohen]

I don't know.

[Adol Refai]

Aaron, if I may, in the warning, I'm making waffles. Is that a little extra bonus?

[Aaron Keeving]

Yeah, yeah. I'll give you a point. I mean, we've never done points on the show before, but we can start now.

[Paul Scheer]

Yes.

[Adol Refai]

Perfect.

[Paul Scheer]

Yeah.

[Aaron Keeving]

This one is a three parter. Okay. So it's three words.

[John Patrick Cohen]

Okay.

[Aaron Keeving]

A sound that is Rap. Curiously good to listen to. Made by Sam from Cheers.

[Adol Refai]

Wow.

[Paul Scheer]

Okay. Sound. That is curiously good.

[John Patrick Cohen]

Sam from Cheers. That's Ted Danson.

[Adol Refai]

That's Ted Danson.

[Aaron Keeving]

Yeah. So just dancing.

[John Patrick Cohen]

Dancing.

[Aaron Keeving]

We'll call him by his last name, Dirty Dancing. And that's the last word. Dancing.

[Paul Scheer]

Okay.

[Aaron Keeving]

A sound.

[Adol Refai]

Noise.

[Paul Scheer]

Wait, that's okay. It's distant noise, right?

[Aaron Keeving]

Yeah. Where do you hear sound from?

[John Patrick Cohen]

Ear. Dance.

[Aaron Keeving]

Yeah, Ear. Ear. So ear blank. Dancing in this. Dear Evan Hansen, 2021.

[Paul Scheer]

Oh, wow.

[Aaron Keeving]

Ear. Heaven. Dancing. Wow.

[John Patrick Cohen]

Dear Evan Hanson, Dear Heaven Dancing.

[Aaron Keeving]

A movie that no one had a single complaint about. Everyone on the Internet was so nice when that one came out.

[Adol Refai]

I do want to see a scene. Let's say Paul and jpc, you are two people who just arrived at the gates of heaven. Aaron, you are sort of a Gabriel. Saint Peter. Is that his name? Saint Peter sort of stand in. But this is Ear Heaven.

[John Patrick Cohen]

You were thinking of Peter Gabriel.

[Adol Refai]

I'm thinking of Peter Gabriel. Sledgehammer. So you're the person who guards the gates at Ear Heaven, and we're going to see the differences between Ear Heaven and regular heaven.

[Aaron Keeving]

Hey.

[Paul Scheer]

Welcome.

[Aaron Keeving]

So sorry you died. Looks like you two were pretty good on Earth.

[Paul Scheer]

Thank you. Thank you so much. Yeah.

[Aaron Keeving]

Congratulations.

[Paul Scheer]

Yeah. So what do we get? Like, do we get, like, better stuff? Like we get like a nicer spot, Like a penthouse kind of a thing or something like that?

[John Patrick Cohen]

Yeah, because I, like. I've really tried to cram it into, like, kind of the last 20 years of my life. Like, all the good deeds. I was really going, like, overboard with that.

[Paul Scheer]

I really wanted to, like, get, like, a nice thing here. Like, that's what I was like, kind of like down payment. So I was really working on that.

[Aaron Keeving]

Well, as you know, there's a bunch of different kinds of heavens, and you qualify for some. And you.

[John Patrick Cohen]

How would we know?

[Aaron Keeving]

Did you guys walk past orientation? That's fine if you did, but.

[Paul Scheer]

Well, it's getting boring. Yeah.

[John Patrick Cohen]

Yeah.

[Aaron Keeving]

Honestly, it is pretty boring, but you qualified for Ear Heaven. So this is where we just play the Tarzan soundtrack 24 hours a day, all the time. And we sort of all smoke weed, and then we vibe and we go, how good is this? Can you believe this is so good.

[Paul Scheer]

I like that. But now I'm just. Now I just want to clarify. What Tarzan? Which Tarzan?

[Aaron Keeving]

The Phil Collins Disney one.

[Paul Scheer]

Oh, okay. Okay. Yeah, the Disney one. Yeah.

[John Patrick Cohen]

All right. Listen to that soundtrack.

[Aaron Keeving]

Yeah. What Tarzan would I have been talking about?

[Paul Scheer]

Well, there's Tarzan, the Legend of Graystroke. There's a bunch of different Tarzan movies. I mean, there's the Johnny Miller Tarzans. You know, the one that came out in 2016. I don't remember what it was. I think it was.

[Aaron Keeving]

Oh, that. That's actually one of the hells. Is the Alexander Starsgard, Margot Robbie Tarzan. They played out.

[Paul Scheer]

Wow. You see, it did not. Okay. Did not know that.

[John Patrick Cohen]

Good. Yeah.

[Paul Scheer]

Yeah, that's great. Well, so we're just going to hear that. The. The Phil Collins Tarzan. And is it just the. The main song or we're going to hear the whole soundtrack? Because I do.

[John Patrick Cohen]

Yeah, because the one I feel like calling that the Phil Collins Tarzan is also kind of like some heavy lift. He did three songs on that he did a bunch.

[Paul Scheer]

Yeah. Well, you'll be in my heart. Probably one of the three.

[John Patrick Cohen]

Yeah, it was actually like, a bunch of reprises of the same song, but I don't really count that as, like.

[Paul Scheer]

Yeah, it's like, you know, I mean, look. I mean, my favorite, probably from that, you know, I mean, I think there's more right there. There actually might be more. There's more composing the music. I mean, that's the thing. It's like, did he do everything?

[Aaron Keeving]

I don't know if you guys are gonna fit in here.

[John Patrick Cohen]

She didn't compose the music on that. I can't remember the composer's name, but he. I mean, hey, good for Phil Collins. He's getting his name out there. If I could do 20% of my job and take credit for 100% of the job, I would do it.

[Paul Scheer]

Well, here's the thing. I mean, you have a lot of these musicians that are just coming on to, you know, they're putting their one song in there, you know, and Phil Collins, like, I want to dip my finger in the whole thing, you know? So I. You know, for me, you know, artistically, I appreciate this. So, again, we'll be hearing. I would prefer if we can make a note. I don't know if we can pass this up to the big man. Yeah, yeah. You know, we wouldn't want to hear any of the Mark Mancina stuff. We just want to hear the Phil Collins stuff.

[John Patrick Cohen]

And I also don't want to hear Trash in the Camp at all. I don't want to hear the NSync remix. I don't want to hear Strangers Like Me.

[Paul Scheer]

Two worlds, you'll be in my heart.

[John Patrick Cohen]

Two worlds. Two worlds for sure.

[Aaron Keeving]

I could hear Strangers Like Me, you'll be in my heart. NSYNC remix of Trash in the Camp.

[John Patrick Cohen]

No, Trash in the Camp I don't want to hear. Because that. I mean, what was the thought process there?

[Aaron Keeving]

Okay, strike two. Strike three. You're going to Tarzan? Hell, no.

[Paul Scheer]

The Margot Robbie one or the 1982 one?

[Aaron Keeving]

Skarsgrd. Margot Robbie.

[Paul Scheer]

Oh, boy. That is.

[John Patrick Cohen]

That doesn't help it, because I didn't see the movie. So, I don't know, is it the 82 one or is it one of the animated?

[Aaron Keeving]

If you don't want to come in to Ear Heaven, where we listen, we get a little high, and we listen to NSYNC sing Trash in the Camp, then you don't want to be in here.

[Paul Scheer]

Well, now you're changing it up. You see, this is why I Think we should have just gone to hell in the first place? Because you hear a set of Phil Collins, and now you're leading with NSync, and it's like, now you're making us, like, the bad guys. Look, we've spent a lot of time on Earth being very good to make, you know. We just want to get some answers here. That's all.

[John Patrick Cohen]

That's all we want.

[Aaron Keeving]

Can I be honest with you?

[Adol Refai]

It's still time for orientation.

[Aaron Keeving]

No, don't.

[John Patrick Cohen]

No. That's a no way.

[Paul Scheer]

I'll be honest with you.

[Aaron Keeving]

There is a hell where it is. You sit and you listen to Trash in the camp by NSYNC all day long.

[Paul Scheer]

Don't want that.

[Aaron Keeving]

And there's a heaven where you listen to Trash in the camp by NSYNC all day long. And you know what it is? Attitude. It's your attitude about it. Wow.

[Paul Scheer]

It's what we bring.

[Aaron Keeving]

Good mood.

[Paul Scheer]

Wow.

[Aaron Keeving]

It's what you bring to it.

[John Patrick Cohen]

You know what I'm almost wishing. Not really, but I'm almost wishing our meth lab had never even exploded, because this is just.

[Paul Scheer]

I know, I know, I know.

[Adol Refai]

See, I never really. So we. We talked about Peter Gabriel guarding the gates of heaven. You brought up Phil Collins. Aaron. And then what band were they in together?

[Aaron Keeving]

Genesis. That's why I thought about it, because I've been thinking about that song. What is it? I was just in my head all weekend.

[John Patrick Cohen]

In the Air Tonight. No, that's a Phil Collins song.

[Aaron Keeving]

What's the genesis?

[John Patrick Cohen]

Is it the one where he goes. Do you feel.

[Adol Refai]

That's gotta be Jethro Toll, right? Or Peter Frampton. That's Peter Frampton. Aaron, why don't we take a. Let's take a quick break.

[Aaron Keeving]

You know what I'm talking about. It's the genesis.

[John Patrick Cohen]

Is this a Christmas song?

[Aaron Keeving]

It's Follow Me, Follow, Follow you. Follow me. Follow you and follow me. You guys, we're going on a break. Genesis.

[Adol Refai]

Genesis. You know, Genesis?

[Aaron Keeving]

Three, two, one.

[Adol Refai]

Happy New Year.

[Aaron Keeving]

It's time to get ready, get organized, set my goals, and prioritize what matters most.

[Adol Refai]

Aaron, you pulled out a whole desk.

[Aaron Keeving]

Mm. I'm working on my financial wellness.

[Adol Refai]

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[Aaron Keeving]

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[John Patrick Cohen]

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[Aaron Keeving]

Don't get stuck in that voice.

[Adol Refai]

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[Aaron Keeving]

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[Adol Refai]

I have JPC negotiate lower bills for me. He'll call and just kind of out crazy the other person until they're just like, I don't want to deal with this.

[Aaron Keeving]

This is a lot better.

[John Patrick Cohen]

It's wild that people on customer service centers don't really want to be crazy because I'm like, I'm looking for someone who wants to be as crazy as I am. And it's just. Aaron, I don't want to blow up your spot too much, but don't you in fact use Rocket Money?

[Aaron Keeving]

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[Adol Refai]

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[Aaron Keeving]

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[Adol Refai]

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[John Patrick Cohen]

Oh, I'm so full I couldn't eat another bite.

[Adol Refai]

Oh, jpc. What's going on, buddy?

[John Patrick Cohen]

Oh, it's just I've. I see this dish that I have in front of me. It's kind of like a lasagna except it's not really a rectangle. It's kind of square.

[Adol Refai]

It's like a Squarespace. Like Squarespace.

[John Patrick Cohen]

Oh my gosh. I just ate my own website. What did I do?

[Adol Refai]

Well, you're. You're in your Garfield era.

[John Patrick Cohen]

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[Aaron Keeving]

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[Adol Refai]

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[John Patrick Cohen]

And my, by far my favorite feature of Squarespace is its layers of crispy noodle combined with cheese and lasagna. Okay, well, Squarespace also has SEO tools. Is that Lasagna or is that.

[Aaron Keeving]

No, that's Squarespace.

[John Patrick Cohen]

Okay, so get discovered fast. With integrated SEO tools, every Squarespace website is optimized to be indexed with meta descriptions, an auto generated sitemap, and more. So you show up more often to more people in global search engine results.

[Adol Refai]

Oh wait, SEO stands for spaghetti, eat or a Chet. So it is.

[John Patrick Cohen]

So am I in the clear or what's going on with that?

[Aaron Keeving]

I don't know what's going on with you.

[John Patrick Cohen]

All I know is you gotta head to squarespace.com for a free trial. And when you're ready to launch squarespace.com riddle to save 10% off your first purchase of a website or domain.

[Adol Refai]

Whoa, whoa, whoa. Jpc, what are you doing? You're sending this package overseas? This is errands inside of this. You really are in your Garfield era.

[Aaron Keeving]

I can breathe.

[John Patrick Cohen]

I'm trying to normalize it.

[Aaron Keeving]

Normalize it? You're trying to what? Have a good night everybody.

[John Patrick Cohen]

Have a good night.

[Aaron Keeving]

And we are back from break. And I'll be honest with you, we talked about Genesis songs. If we know any of them, the Whole break, and I don't know if we landed on anything really.

[Adol Refai]

Shock the monkey. No, that's Peter Gabriel solo.

[John Patrick Cohen]

You know who I know is Super Tramp.

[Aaron Keeving]

Who is that?

[John Patrick Cohen]

Aaron, is it possible?

[Paul Scheer]

I'm looking at this Invisible Touch album, and I definitely had this Invisible Touch album, and, man, is that I'm invisible.

[Aaron Keeving]

The visible touch. Yeah.

[Paul Scheer]

Yeah. Oh, yeah.

[Aaron Keeving]

That's a good song.

[Paul Scheer]

There we go. We got one.

[Aaron Keeving]

We got one.

[John Patrick Cohen]

What is going on? Why did you know Genesis this so well?

[Aaron Keeving]

I don't know.

[Adol Refai]

Yeah, Aaron, what's going on?

[Aaron Keeving]

I have a very specific type of dad.

[John Patrick Cohen]

Yeah, I also have a specific type of dad, but my specific type of dad is more the. Like, I remember one time I went home for, like, Thanksgiving or Christmas, and it was, like, the first night I was back, but not the night that we were, like, doing all of, like, the Festivities, and we sat in the dark and listened to, I think, two Jethro Toll albums, like, in full.

[Paul Scheer]

There you go.

[John Patrick Cohen]

Didn't say a word to each other. No, it was Steely Dan. It was two Steely Dan albums.

[Aaron Keeving]

That's the same thing. At the end of the day, Moody.

[Adol Refai]

Will say, steely Dan. It's all the same.

[Aaron Keeving]

Same dad, same dad, same band, same dad. Okay, we got more riddles. These are kind of similar. Okay, these are from Sage. We can use their name. I've been a longtime listener. Y'all have gotten me through my entire undergraduate degree, and I look forward to losing my mind to more riddles as I become your target demographic as someone working on their master's degree. Great.

[John Patrick Cohen]

Okay, so I hope it's in philosophy. That just sounds like a fun thing to get a master's in.

[Aaron Keeving]

Oh, yeah. My friend got a doctorate in philosophy of, like, philosophy of technology, and he's very smart. He does have existential dread all the time.

[Paul Scheer]

Sure, I guess that makes sense. I was thinking about the doomsday clock the other day. I mean, it must be pretty far. Pretty close. The doomsday clock?

[Aaron Keeving]

Yeah.

[Paul Scheer]

It's broken. Yeah.

[Aaron Keeving]

It's off the charts.

[Adol Refai]

Yeah.

[Aaron Keeving]

Okay, so these. These are kind of confusing to explain.

[John Patrick Cohen]

Oh, Aaron, do you want to. Do you want to hear my impression of someone who just got their master's in philosophy?

[Aaron Keeving]

I would love that. I'm ready.

[John Patrick Cohen]

Okay. Why did I do this?

[Paul Scheer]

Thank you.

[Aaron Keeving]

Well done. Okay, so these, while palindromes, are words spelt the same forwards and backwards. The reverse spelling, semurdial, nip, is cheekily used to describe a word that is spelled a word that spells a different word. When backwards. Also called anadromes, if you don't want to be cute about it. For example, pool and loop would be anodromes.

[Adol Refai]

Okay, got it.

[Aaron Keeving]

The riddles below use four lines to guide you to the two words that an anadrome would spell. Does that make sense? They will.

[Adol Refai]

The answer would be something like pool, loop. It's going to be one word both forwards and backwards.

[Aaron Keeving]

Yes. Cool. Once I do, this is an example.

[John Patrick Cohen]

Sure. I've never thought about it before, but I'm also now pretty mad that the word palindrome isn't a palindrome.

[Paul Scheer]

I mean, that would be a pretty solid thing to do.

[Adol Refai]

Missed opportunity.

[John Patrick Cohen]

I mean. Yeah. A total missed opportunity.

[Aaron Keeving]

Who do we talk to about that?

[John Patrick Cohen]

Let's just change race cars and palindromes. Let's call the things that you drive around the court Paladrops.

[Paul Scheer]

Let's park in the driveway and drive in the car with the questions that we've been asking for all time.

[Aaron Keeving]

Here we go.

[John Patrick Cohen]

Okay.

[Aaron Keeving]

A river winds easy and free. The movement of water is what you call me. Howling more than wind and air. Predator in the woods. It's packed all there.

[John Patrick Cohen]

Now, here's the thing, Aaron. I was listening really hard to what you were describing, and then once you started reading it, I'm like, I think I'm playing a completely different game.

[Paul Scheer]

Well, I was like. Immediately, I was like, stream. I think stream is a part of it, but I'm like, no. But now I kept on going, and I'm like, well, now I don't know where we're at.

[Aaron Keeving]

So this is inside of this.

[John Patrick Cohen]

We're getting two words.

[Aaron Keeving]

We're getting two words. So this is. It's pointing you towards two words, which is hard. This is hard to throw at a guest.

[John Patrick Cohen]

You're doing it. You're doing it, Erin.

[Aaron Keeving]

I know, and I don't know why you guys let me do this. I didn't ask this.

[Adol Refai]

Aaron, to be clear, if we get one of them, we basically have both, right?

[Aaron Keeving]

Exactly.

[Adol Refai]

That's to say it.

[Paul Scheer]

Yeah.

[Adol Refai]

Paul asked, is stream one of them?

[Aaron Keeving]

No, stream is not one of them. A river winds easy and free. Oh, sorry. I think it winds. I'm so sorry. A river winds easy and free.

[Paul Scheer]

Got it.

[Aaron Keeving]

The movement of water is what you call me. Howling more than wind in the air. Predator in the woods. It's pack all there. So predator in the wood. Predator in the wood that's in a pack is a wolf. Yes.

[John Patrick Cohen]

Oh, Flo and wolf.

[Aaron Keeving]

Flow and wolf.

[Adol Refai]

Wow.

[John Patrick Cohen]

Okay.

[Aaron Keeving]

All right, Perfect.

[John Patrick Cohen]

I Feel like I need. I. I don't know if you guys have this, but I do not have the ability. If someone's, like, says a word. I can't just spell that word in my head from, like, thinking about the word. I have to like.

[Paul Scheer]

Oh, God, are you spelling? I didn't even know. I'm just still guessing words. I'm like, I'm over here.

[John Patrick Cohen]

Like, well, I got flow. And I was like, what is flow backwards? I don't know. I mean, flow. How would I ever get that?

[Aaron Keeving]

Great. Let's do another one. Okay.

[John Patrick Cohen]

Okay.

[Aaron Keeving]

Moved by the moon, a motion in cadence Oceans roll with the waves advance running across an improv stage or what is done to a marked up page.

[Adol Refai]

Tide edits.

[Paul Scheer]

Sides. Yes, sides is a word, right? Sides. Because I got. Cause it is. What is. It's tides, right? Or no, sorry.

[Aaron Keeving]

Yeah, Tide.

[John Patrick Cohen]

Yeah, tides.

[Aaron Keeving]

Tide and edit. You got it.

[John Patrick Cohen]

Edit.

[Aaron Keeving]

Tide and edit. I'd like to see a scene. You three are an improv team. And Paul and jpc, you're trying to gently give Adol a note that he is editing too much.

[John Patrick Cohen]

Hey, great show.

[Paul Scheer]

Really great show. Yes.

[Adol Refai]

Oh, man, that was awesome.

[John Patrick Cohen]

Fun audience, like, good house. Like, it's all.

[Adol Refai]

Yeah, yeah.

[Paul Scheer]

Quick though, too. Right? We just. I mean, that was. We had that. I think we have that slot for 30 minutes where you did, like, about the quicker show than normal, right?

[Adol Refai]

Yeah, yeah.

[John Patrick Cohen]

Was it. It was quicker than normal, right. Like, because we were. Because. Yeah, we went on at 10:00 sharp. And it's 10:04 now.

[Adol Refai]

All right. Yeah.

[Paul Scheer]

Some of these scenes breathe a little bit more, too. I think we could just do that because it's like, they're fun. I mean, such funny stuff. I mean, your thing with the. Oh, my gosh, the alien president was really funny. We could live in that, I think, for a little bit longer, probably.

[John Patrick Cohen]

Yeah. Because I said, I'm the president of aliens. And then it felt like the scene was kind of like almost immediately over after.

[Paul Scheer]

Yeah.

[John Patrick Cohen]

I'm not sure who edited that one.

[Adol Refai]

Oh, I think. Well, I think it was me. I think I ran on stage and picked you up immediately and kind of shook you. And I was like, these are my toys. And then I kind of. And then I swept it. And then.

[Paul Scheer]

Jeff, you started the scene, right?

[Adol Refai]

You started that scene where you were sort of like a psychic and you had a crystal ball. And I remember I ran on and picked you up and kind of shook you around and then was like, these are my toys.

[John Patrick Cohen]

Yeah.

[Paul Scheer]

So I just.

[Adol Refai]

To keep it in the same world.

[Paul Scheer]

Yeah.

[John Patrick Cohen]

Yeah, for sure. Because that's cohesive for the show. And also, Steve, I do think that they will pull the lights as well.

[Paul Scheer]

Yeah, you don't have to call for the lights.

[John Patrick Cohen]

Yeah. You don't have to say lights, lights, lights, lights, lights, lights, lights, lights, lights, lights, lights. Until they pull lights.

[Adol Refai]

Like, I got a ladder and got up and unscrewed all the light bulbs at the end there. But I thought was super funny, though.

[John Patrick Cohen]

Yeah. Was it funny to who? Because you were laughing kind of. I would say cackling the whole time you were doing it. But I don't know that the audience was necessarily. I just don't think you'd won them over at that point.

[Paul Scheer]

Yeah.

[John Patrick Cohen]

Yeah.

[Paul Scheer]

I just think, you know, we should definitely try to do different stuff, though, too. I think we're. I think we're getting caught in the. We don't have to do all those as callbacks. I think it's not necessarily a callback as much as it just felt like we can be different characters and stuff.

[Aaron Keeving]

Yeah.

[Paul Scheer]

Yeah.

[Adol Refai]

Well, I think once when we do callbacks, the audience will forget. If we do any scene that's not tethered immediately. Tethered immediately to the previous 10 scenes, the audience will lose interest. Right.

[John Patrick Cohen]

I kind of hate rehashing the show, you know, like right after we did it, because I feel like you have to let it breathe a little bit. But if I could ask one question, because you at one point went on the stage by yourself and you said. You grabbed your belly and you said, this is my presence. This is my big bag of presents. And then you said. What did you say? He said, no, this is stupid. I'm stupid. Just do a different scene. Just do a new scene. And then you walked off stage. I think that's. Does that seem familiar for what happened in the show?

[Adol Refai]

Yeah. I thought I said that in my head. It was out loud.

[John Patrick Cohen]

Yeah, yeah.

[Paul Scheer]

Again, we know. Let's not even give notes here. I think what we should do is this. But, like, you know what? I think we should just. I think if anything, I'm guilty of this, too. I think that we just need to just, like, let things breeze. Because I think what we'll do is we'll find different fun stuff that we didn't even realize. Because I think what we're doing is we're getting, like, a really funny pop, and then we're just editing right out of it. But I also think if we exist in it, we'll even find more stuff to even call Back, like you were saying, that's actually okay.

[Adol Refai]

So, like, if the two of you are, like, two jurors debating over, you know, the trial you're. You're presiding over, maybe I let it sit for, like, 20 seconds, and then I pick you both up and shake you and say, these are my toys.

[Paul Scheer]

I think we can, like. We don't have to get so connected to this. My toys. You know, I think, why don't we.

[John Patrick Cohen]

Also do this one thing, and this is just gonna help our next show have, like, a little more variety. Why don't we just do two kind of, like, ground rules? Like, let's try to do this for the next show where we don't pick anyone up and we don't slap anyone hard in the face while they're trying to initiate a scene.

[Adol Refai]

I'm out. I'm sick of that.

[Paul Scheer]

Ouch.

[Adol Refai]

Yeah, I don't.

[John Patrick Cohen]

Ouch.

[Adol Refai]

Yeah. Improv. To me, I know for you guys, improv is, like, a creative outlet, but for me, it's like a way I, like, get. You know how sometimes you just want to pick up something and shake it? That's how I get that energy.

[Paul Scheer]

Yeah, you keep on saying the thing about shaking it. I mean, well, we don't want you.

[John Patrick Cohen]

To be out because obviously, you're the one that has a car, and that's, you know, getting a ride to these.

[Paul Scheer]

Yeah.

[John Patrick Cohen]

And you show the edits. Yeah. How do we proceed from here?

[Adol Refai]

Maybe instead of slaps, we just go. We pivot to, like, nut taps. That's.

[Paul Scheer]

And that's funny.

[Adol Refai]

And we like that.

[John Patrick Cohen]

Yeah. I think we. I think we just walk the shows from now on, and I think we're. I think we're good. I think have it and.

[Paul Scheer]

Yeah, this is good. This is good. We're. We're learning. This is good. All right, I like this. Let's just kind of table this, and then. Yeah. And, like, you know what? We'll just make a little challenge. We'll do a little challenge next time. We'll make sure to see who can do this along. I don't know. Yeah, well. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[John Patrick Cohen]

You know, here's my. Here's my promise. And this is a promise for myself. I'm gonna do this. Cause I love you guys. I love performing with you guys. I don't have any fun in these shows, but I'm gonna do this without making any money for six more years, and then I'm done. Then I'm gonna start writing.

[Paul Scheer]

Then I'm gonna start focusing on writing.

[Aaron Keeving]

All right, See oh, man, I'm gonna start doing that at the end of shows, going, lights, lights, lights, lights, lights, lights, lights, lights, lights, lights, lights, lights, lights, lights. Paul, you've done improv in your time, a lot of it. Is there like a show that you have in your head that was like, you still have nightmares about that just went so poorly?

[Paul Scheer]

You know, there's one show that I did way back in the day when, you know, improv has kind of taken off in this really amazing way. Like, you know, we just got off tour a couple weeks ago with this group. I have Dinosaur. And, you know, we're playing these giant houses. And the idea of that is so foreign based on where we started. And like when we first started, you know, we got called to go to the Minneapolis Comedy Festival. And I think people were expecting, like, stand up and stuff like that. They weren't expecting, like an improvised show. And we weren't even doing an improvised show. We were doing a show called the Real Real World, which is an improvised version of the Real World, which is an MTV show. And, you know, and. And so what we did is we got on stage and as I started doing the introduction to the show, which is, you know, conceptually a heavier show, but again, I thought it was gonna be great because it's popular. We were selling out in New York. It was gonna be great. This guy just yells, kill yourself. And that was within the first seconds of this show. So that was. That was a rough one. Yeah.

[John Patrick Cohen]

I wonder if that guy had anything else going on in his life.

[Paul Scheer]

You never know. You never know. You know.

[John Patrick Cohen]

To go to a comedy festival, the act directly before you was a roast comic that only does crowd work. And he targeted that guy for 45 minutes. And then the next show started. That guy goes, it's not gonna happen to me ever again.

[Adol Refai]

Now, Paul, I saw. I'd be remiss if I didn't say this. I saw 2003, maybe. I went to Bonnaroo and had a wonderful time. And there was a comedy tent. And there's a time where I was like, I like comedy. Let me check this out. And you were performing in there. And I remember that might have been like the first improv I ever saw. And I remember being like, oh, this is incredible. Like, this is a blast. Cause I think I got in there maybe for like the air conditioning or something.

[Paul Scheer]

No, that was our trick. That was our trick. We would always, like, we would perform performed in the comedy tent, which is the only air conditioned venue. And we were tricking people into doing you know, to coming in to see improv or we were one of, you know, their stand up shows and everything. But you know that I'm so excited that you saw that show because those are actually really fun because we really leaned into, you know, we kept on like leaning into the idea that we were going to make it about the audience. So we would talk to the audience and kind of got them to tell their craziest stories and stuff like that. And, and that was like the, that was the. So they felt like you could see it happening. I feel like that's been my big challenge, that you always have to show the audience that you're actually improvising or they're not going to believe it. Kind of checking back in with them and showing, hey, no, it's still, we're still doing it. We're still doing it. You know, I'm doing a show right now with Marta Kaufman, an improvised show for Amazon. Hopefully we'll get to make more. But you know, one of the things that comes up is like, well, are you still improvised? Like, yeah, we're still like, everything is improvised. The League was improvised. You know, we based it off of the like a story outline, but it was improvised. But I think when you don't see the theme, sometimes it gets hard for people to.

[John Patrick Cohen]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, like buy into it or trust in that.

[Adol Refai]

Yeah, yeah, that's a great point.

[Aaron Keeving]

Like if a singer is too perfect live, you're like, eh, yeah, it doesn't feel as fun.

[Paul Scheer]

Yeah, exactly. Well, I think, well that I think, you know, it's like what. I think what people want to do is see a live experience. They want, I think that people are so suspect that you are making this stuff up and when it's funny and they're laughing, I was like, well, they couldn't have made that up. That's impossible.

[Adol Refai]

Right?

[Paul Scheer]

It's like, it's almost like they're angry at the trick of improv, but it's not like you're not tricking them. It's as if you're, you're just creating, you know, you're, you're creating a comedy on the spot. And I feel like if people like when people are so suspect of it. We ran into this a lot in la, like, well, no, they couldn't. You couldn't have made like what you knew you were going to do a scene with two doctors. No, like you don't. And the truth is you forget the scenes that don't work and you remember the scenes that do work and it Is a magic trick on some level, but it's like, there's no trick of the audience. It's like. Yeah. I think the trick is really that you remember the better stuff and you probably forget the stuff that wasn't as great. Yeah.

[John Patrick Cohen]

I also think when people are like. But you're not obviously, like this. This stuff is, like, planned or rehearsed. It's like, well, I'm not walking out there with absolutely nothing in my head. I don't bang my head into a wall three times and then walk on stage. I'm coming in with decades of experience and an idea of what kind of things are funny. And yes, that's what I'm doing for the show. It's not like this is not my first day on earth. Like.

[Paul Scheer]

Yeah, yeah.

[John Patrick Cohen]

Well, that.

[Paul Scheer]

I mean, I think that people really like. It's. You know, one of the things that's so. I think important about improv, too, is like, a familiarity with your players and who you're up there with. And yes, you can improvise with anybody and you get the idea of it and you understand certain rules and you're not denying and you're. Yes. Anding. But, like, there is a camaraderie, a teamwork that you build in with that people. When you are performing for so long.

[John Patrick Cohen]

Yeah, yeah, for sure.

[Paul Scheer]

Yeah.

[Adol Refai]

You can see the difference.

[John Patrick Cohen]

And when you're performing with strangers and you start picking them up and, like, touching the inside of their mouth and stuff like that, they're always such weird sports about it. And it's like, hey, guys, grow up. This is improv.

[Aaron Keeving]

All right, we should do. I'm going to get through the rest of these. Quick, quick, quick.

[John Patrick Cohen]

Okay, okay.

[Aaron Keeving]

And then. All right. Okay. A package left or a letter sent. What a phone will say when you send a text. Criticized and condemned. Words that hurt. Archaic word to drag one's name through the dirt. A package left or a letter sent. This was. That's the easy one again. Someone has to send. No, but the person actually handing it to you. The person who's actually delivered. Yeah, delivered, deliver and. Yeah, deliver and reviled.

[Paul Scheer]

Wow. Wow.

[John Patrick Cohen]

Adol Got that backwards so quick it would have taken me 10 minutes to type out delivered. And then look at it backwards.

[Aaron Keeving]

Pieces of a whole rolls in a play. Put together the puzzle and you'll know what to say. Found on a purse, a guitar or a bird.

[John Patrick Cohen]

I got this one. Part strap.

[Aaron Keeving]

Yeah, part strap.

[John Patrick Cohen]

Mm.

[Paul Scheer]

Wow.

[Aaron Keeving]

Something fidget with this one.

[John Patrick Cohen]

Came to me as if in a dream.

[Aaron Keeving]

You're getting. I Mean you're getting warmed up and we're about to be done. Used to store all kinds of junk. A broken one might close with a clunk. It might be a trophy one on your own accord. They say virtue is its own reward, Reward, reward, reward and no use to store all kinds of junk.

[Adol Refai]

Drawer, reward, junk draw.

[Aaron Keeving]

Yeah, drawer and reward. Drawer, draw and reward.

[John Patrick Cohen]

I like how that one gave us the last. That one gave us the whole puzzle, basically. It gave us the word, like little.

[Adol Refai]

Hanson Gretel, breadcrumb trail.

[John Patrick Cohen]

I feel like we should have started with that one. I would have. I would have had such a better time starting with the one that just gives it to me.

[Aaron Keeving]

Well, thank you, Sage, for those riddles.

[John Patrick Cohen]

Thank you, Sage.

[Paul Scheer]

That was really tough. I loved it.

[Aaron Keeving]

Those were hard.

[John Patrick Cohen]

And good luck on becoming a doctor of. What is it going to be? Probably like European studies.

[Aaron Keeving]

Yeah, it's always a lot of people who are in the sciences listen to our show, though. So it's probably like research on molecular. I don't know. I don't even know how to make up a science thing. That's fine. Paul, anything you'd like to plug?

[Paul Scheer]

Oh, my gosh, no. I mean, nothing. I mean, my book, Joyful Recollections of Trauma is available wherever you get your books, your ebooks, your audiobooks, and, yeah, you can listen to how unspooled. And how'd this get made?

[Aaron Keeving]

Wherever you get your podcasts, Adol. Anything to play.

[Adol Refai]

Very much recommend picking up Paul's book. It's a goddamn delight. And then I would also recommend, since we were talking about immersive theater, there's a newer show in New York City called Life and Trust, which is by, I think, some of the team that put on Sleep no More. And it's basically. It's like Sleep no More, but even bigger space. And it's sort of about Dr. Faustus and some other stories kind of weaved in there. But it's a fantastic time. So I recommend going to see Life and Trust in New York. Aaron, do you have anything to plug or promote?

[Aaron Keeving]

I was watching Twisters on the plane yesterday and guess who showed up? Actually, I won't spoil it, but someone on this podcast right now shows up and made me laugh.

[Paul Scheer]

I wonder who.

[Adol Refai]

JPC.

[Aaron Keeving]

I'm not going to spoil it.

[Adol Refai]

JPC and I saw that together in 40x.

[Paul Scheer]

Yeah, I did too. I loved it.

[Adol Refai]

It's incredible. And when you showed up at the end, it was like, holy shit, that's amazing. It was so unexpected.

[Paul Scheer]

It was. It was Unexpected for me. I was. I was down in Oklahoma shooting a Super bowl psa or a PSA that was going to air during. During the Super Bowl. And I thought the other one would have been awesome. And it was such a funny thing because I just happened to be sitting next to the director. And the next day I got a phone call and they're like, hey, were you on a plane or are you in Oklahoma City? And I was like. I am like, well, you were sitting next to the director of Twisters and he wants to put you in this movie. And I was like, okay. And it was the first day back from the strike that they shot. It was pretty crazy.

[John Patrick Cohen]

That's so fun.

[Paul Scheer]

Yeah, it was really a blast.

[Aaron Keeving]

Okay, so you hear that? Everybody go try to sit next to movie directors on planes. That's how you get into it.

[Paul Scheer]

It's a new Schwab.

[John Patrick Cohen]

It's also wild because the discourse around the time that Twisters came out and around the time of that scene was how funny that Paul is in that scene. But the real discourse should have been how unacceptable that guy's behavior was in that scene. Because what he does to the ground at that airport, the movie should end with him being arrested and thrown in the back of a fucking squad.

[Paul Scheer]

He is definitely going to jail. There's no.

[John Patrick Cohen]

And it's an airport. I mean, they have. They're pretty strict about airports.

[Paul Scheer]

I mean, like, all I'll say is that it seemed like I give him a lot of chances. And also it seems like you could just park that anywhere. It's Oklahoma City. You're not gonna have. It's not like trying to park at LAX or something like that.

[John Patrick Cohen]

You truly didn't need to do that. And you know what? Part of me thinks it's because he's handsome. Part of me thinks he is that handsome and just kind of operates that way, you know? I'll tell you, there are consequences.

[Paul Scheer]

I have a friend whose dad would run late for the airport and this is before 9 11, I guess, and would just pull up to the curbside and then. And then like leave the keys in the car and just take off and know the car is going to get towed because he thought that was a better way to get on the flight. That's about it.

[Aaron Keeving]

That's so nice.

[John Patrick Cohen]

Well, that sounds awesome. Okay. Hey, before we leave here, I do want to read a five star review. If you want to get a five star review that you write featured on the show, just write one. Leave it someplace I might read it. Hey, today I'M reading one from Cameron Pulsford. Cameron writes jpc. Don't use my name if you read this review. Well, anyway, thank you for the five star review, Aaron. Anything from you.

[Aaron Keeving]

Jupiter, Goodbye.

[John Patrick Cohen]

Bye. Bye. Created by Adol Refai Starring Aaron Keeving and John Patrick Cohen. Casey Tony did the editing. Amari Perrin did the music. Logo created by Emily Cardano.

[Adol Refai]

Genesis. You know Genesis?

[John Patrick Cohen]

I don't know it.

[Paul Scheer]

I can feel it. I mean, that's really what I know. That's the Genesis song, you know, coming in the Air tonight.

[Aaron Keeving]

Is that Genesis or is that Genesis?

[John Patrick Cohen]

It's at least Phil Collins who does.

[Paul Scheer]

Feel it in the air tonight is Genesis. Has to be, because that's like the Band of the Hand or whatever Phil Collins is like. I mean, Phil Collins is an actor. We have that. That was buster. But I'm trying to think of like Phil Collins. Oh, you're right. Nope, that's a Phil Collins song still in there tonight.

[Adol Refai]

I can't sing Genesis.

[John Patrick Cohen]

I couldn't tell you a single Genesis song for sure.

[Paul Scheer]

You know what? You can? We Built the City on Rock and Roll. That's a Genesis song.

[Aaron Keeving]

Oh, is that.

[Paul Scheer]

That's Jefferson. Really?

[Adol Refai]

Starship?

[Paul Scheer]

No, no, it can't.

[Adol Refai]

I think it's Jefferson's starship. Who used to be Jefferson Airplane, who sings One Pill Makes yous Smaller and then they changed their name to Jefferson Starship when they went into the 80s because they're like, we can't be Jefferson Airship anymore. We have to change it to something.

[John Patrick Cohen]

Future Genesis saying, I can't dance from 1991. I don't know that one.

[Adol Refai]

Yeah, I can't dance.

[Paul Scheer]

You're right. Wow. Yeah.

[John Patrick Cohen]

I'm looking at all these Genesis songs and none of them look familiar to me.

[Paul Scheer]

I had Genesis albums. I don't remember us singing. Yeah, I can picture it. Wow.

[Adol Refai]

Casey put all this at the end credits because I like this deep dive.

[John Patrick Cohen]

Hey there, cupcakes and clowns. If you like that, you're gonna love this week's Patreon. It's more public access with our special guest, Janet Varney. You can listen to that plus our entire back [e-mail] HeyRiddleriddle by joining the clue crew for $5 a month or start your seven day free trial or the review crew for $8 a month. Plus you get those ad free episodes. See you there.

[Paul Scheer]

That was a hategam podcast.