#353: Rope Bowls w/ Tony Hale

Summary

Episode #353: Rope Bowls with Tony Hale

Release Date: April 23, 2025
Guest: Tony Hale
Hosts: Adal Rifai, Erin Keif (Aaron Keenan), and John Patrick Coan (JPC)
Podcast: Hey Riddle Riddle by Headgum

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1. Welcome and Introduction

The episode kicks off with the usual banter among the hosts, Adol, Aaron, and JPC, who humorously critique their plant-based "riddle garden." Shortly after, they introduce their guest, Tony Hale, known for his roles in Veep and Arrested Development.

Notable Quote:
Adol (02:46): "Aaron, it's fantastic that you're actually growing organic riddles. Cause one, we're running out of riddles. And two, we actually have a very special guest today."

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2. Tony Hale's Hobbies: Crafting Rope Bowls

Tony Hale delves into his unique hobby of making rope bowls, a meditative craft he picked up during the pandemic. He explains the process of sewing and molding rope into decorative bowls and shares how this pastime offers him peace and creativity outside his acting career.

Notable Quote:
Tony Hale (06:32): "I like making rope bowls. It's really meditative for me, much like the guy who walks on a slack line."

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3. Tony's Podcast: Extraordinarians

Tony discusses his own podcast, Extraordinarians, where he and his co-hosts interview remarkable individuals who undertake extraordinary feats. He shares anecdotes from the show, including interviews with a slackliner between hot air balloons and a national pun competition winner.

Notable Quote:
Tony Hale (04:21): "We're just kind of meeting these people who just do crazy things. I'm like, do you think about death? Do you wake up and you can't wait to do it again?"

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4. Anecdotes from Veep and Arrested Development

The conversation shifts to Tony's experiences on Veep and Arrested Development. Tony reflects on memorable scenes and interactions, including a humorous story about a nosebleed joke on Veep that originated from genuine laughter, and discusses his character Buster Bluth's complex relationship with his mother Lucille in Arrested Development.

Notable Quote:
Tony Hale (30:44): "One of my favorite scenes is when my mother, Lucille Bluth, is on house arrest and I have to inhale the smoke out of her mouth—a beautiful depiction of Buster's codependency."

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5. Riddle-Solving Segment

As per the show's format, the hosts engage in solving riddles presented by JPC. Tony participates enthusiastically, quickly identifying the connections between seemingly unrelated clues. The segment showcases the hosts' chemistry and Tony's knack for lateral thinking, despite some comedic struggles.

Notable Quotes:
JPC (16:57): "So here's your first one. Snake. Macy Black. That's one. Snake is one. And Macy Black is one."
Adol (17:30): "They're all bands with a color scheme slightly askew."

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6. Improvised Muppet-Themed Scene

The episode features an improvised, humorous scene where Tony and the hosts act out Muppet characters. Tony embodies Beaker from The Muppets, while the hosts take on roles like Miss Piggy and Gonzo. The playful interaction highlights Tony's versatility and comedic timing.

Notable Quote:
Adol (26:06): "Tony, would you like to play Beaker? Would you like to talk? Would you like to act with Beaker?"

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7. Final Riddles and Wrap-Up

The hosts continue with their riddle-solving, presenting Tony with challenging puzzles that blend seamlessly with their playful banter. The episode concludes with Tony praising the hosts' riddle skills and expressing admiration for their podcasting endeavors.

Notable Quote:
Tony Hale (46:11): "I want you guys to completely receive your gifting because you are gifted at this. And I need you to accept it and say thank you to. We are good."

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Key Takeaways and Insights

• Creativity Beyond Acting: Tony Hale's passion for crafting rope bowls illustrates his creative pursuits outside of acting, offering listeners a glimpse into his multidimensional personality.

• Podcast Synergy: The interaction between Tony and the hosts underscores the importance of chemistry in podcasting, enhancing both the entertainment value and the depth of discussions.

• Lateral Thinking: The riddle segments emphasize the show's focus on lateral thinking and problem-solving, engaging listeners in mentally stimulating content.

• Humorous Improvisation: The Muppet-themed improvised scene adds a layer of humor and showcases Tony Hale's improvisational skills, aligning with the podcast’s playful spirit.

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Conclusion

Episode #353 of Hey Riddle Riddle with Tony Hale offers a blend of insightful discussions, creative anecdotes, and engaging riddle-solving. Tony's candidness about his hobbies, combined with his comedic interactions with the hosts, makes for a memorable and entertaining episode. Whether you're a fan of riddles, improvisational comedy, or Tony Hale's work, this episode delivers on all fronts.

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Transcript

[Aaron Keenan]

This is a Headgum podcast.

[Tony Hale]

With a $5 meal deal with new McValue. You pick a McDouble or a McChicken, then get a small fry, a small drink, and a four piece McNuggets. That's a lot of McDonald's for not a lot of money. Prices and Participation may vary.

[JPC]

McDouble meal, $6 in some markets for.

[Tony Hale]

A limited time only.

[JPC]

The doctor was the mother. He stood on a block of ice. Both of them were goldfish. It was the cannon of an air idol.

[Aaron Keenan]

Dbc.

[Tony Hale]

Look.

[Aaron Keenan]

My garden. The riddles are coming in so nicely.

[Adol]

Wow. Okay. Are those quizzicals?

[Aaron Keenan]

Yeah. They're really beautiful, aren't they?

[Adol]

Mm.

[JPC]

I never knew you had such a riddle thumb.

[Aaron Keenan]

I know. I mean, I don't know. I tried. I planted them, but I don't know what to do. Are they poisonous, right?

[Adol]

Most. Yes, most riddles are poisonous. Aaron, what are you.

[JPC]

They're what?

[Aaron Keenan]

Oh, jbc. You started eating that so fast, I.

[JPC]

Wanted to get to the dirt underneath.

[Adol]

Aaron, are you watering them with answers?

[Aaron Keenan]

Yeah, and a good attitude because, you know, we run out of riddles on the show. There's really only like 100 riddles in the world.

[Tony Hale]

Yeah.

[Adol]

Yeah.

[Aaron Keenan]

So I thought, why not grow them.

[Adol]

From farm to brain? Or is that.

[Aaron Keenan]

That's something.

[JPC]

Yeah, that's something.

[Adol]

That tracks. Well, Aaron, it's fantastic that you're actually growing organic riddles. Cause one, we're running out of riddles. And two, we actually have a very special guest today.

[JPC]

Oh, yeah.

[Aaron Keenan]

Okay, exciting.

[JPC]

Probably kind of the perfect person to try out some organic riddles on.

[Adol]

Yeah.

[Aaron Keenan]

Okay. Who is it? Tell me.

[Adol]

Well, Aaron, I don't know if you've ever seen shows like Veep or Arrested Development or if you are familiar with the Toy Story franchise.

[Aaron Keenan]

Okay. Some of my favorite things on the planet. What's this going to be?

[JPC]

Well, Eric, I don't know if you're familiar with the brand new headcub podcast that just came out today, which I don't know how you could be. Cause it just came out today. Extraordinarians.

[Aaron Keenan]

Oh, yeah.

[JPC]

Did I get that right? Extraord. Extraordinarians.

[Tony Hale]

Yeah. Yeah.

[JPC]

Okay.

[Aaron Keenan]

Oh, that's why Tony Hill is here. Okay.

[JPC]

Yeah, that's why Tony Hill is here.

[Adol]

Oh, you know Tony. Okay. Oh, he's sitting at your table. He's sitting at your kitchen table.

[JPC]

Okay. Yeah.

[Aaron Keenan]

Okay. Perfect.

[JPC]

And I forgot that you two have actually already met. So. Great. So that's. Yeah. So that Surprise. Yeah. Okay. Nevermind.

[Tony Hale]

I love that. Extraordinarians was the thing that you got, that's the best.

[Adol]

Oh, yeah.

[Tony Hale]

Tony Hale.

[Aaron Keenan]

Oh, yeah, of course. Tony Ho.

[Adol]

Tony, thank you so much for doing this.

[Tony Hale]

Oh, thank you for having me. I like to see everybody's zoom background. You really get a taste of the personalities.

[Aaron Keenan]

And I will say, today we are shining through in our personalities. GPC is sort of in a horrible dark void. Adol looks like he's in a cabin that smells like pine and I look.

[Tony Hale]

Like I'm in a bunker.

[JPC]

Yeah, yeah. I look like a podcast bunker.

[Tony Hale]

Oh, it does. Yeah. Thank you. Actually, you have like, a grandma's, like, kitchen dishcloth fabric behind you.

[JPC]

It's funny because if I have my, like, curtains open a little bit because I have my dog right here.

[Tony Hale]

Oh, wait, sorry, I meant Aaron. Oh, yeah, I was talking to the wrong one. My bad. Jpc. Sorry, I got the name screwed. You just look like you're in the black hole.

[JPC]

The void. The void with, like, subtle little white lines in it as well.

[Aaron Keenan]

Mm.

[JPC]

Tony, we first of all, welcome to the Headgum family. We're so excited to have you.

[Tony Hale]

Thank you. Is there any kind of initiation I need to know about blood pain for.

[JPC]

Seven years, so we. We know our way around the place.

[Tony Hale]

This is like a white lotus scenario. All right.

[Aaron Keenan]

Jake and Amir make us sort of exchange our blood. It's a whole thing.

[Tony Hale]

Oh, it's nice. I thought maybe just exchange gum or something, but blood, wow.

[Aaron Keenan]

Yeah.

[Tony Hale]

Okay.

[JPC]

You can put the blood in whatever you want, I guess, if you want to pass it with gum. Hey, it's weirder. But you know what? We don't judge. That's another thing.

[Tony Hale]

Oh, that's nice. That's the most important thing.

[Aaron Keenan]

How's it been stepping into the podcast world? How does it feel?

[Tony Hale]

Good. Good. I'm doing it with my friends, Kristen Schall. I'm sure you guys know Matt Oberg, and it's really fun. We interview extraordinary people doing extraordinary things that we would never do. And one of, like, this one guy was slack lined between two hot air balloons, and we just were kind of fascinated with that. And other. Another girl won the national pun competition. Another one won the most somersaults after, like, on a. On a trampoline, all this kind of stuff. So we're just kind of fascinated and it's really fun. And I don't know, I mean, like, you guys, it's like you have a chance to get together with your buddies and, you know, shoot the shit, which is really.

[JPC]

That's the secret sauce.

[Aaron Keenan]

Yeah, that hot air balloon thing. Is the craziest thing I ever heard.

[Tony Hale]

It really. It's one of those. What's the famous. He climbed mountains. It was a documentary. I'm just blanking. Not alone, but.

[Adol]

Oh, a lot.

[JPC]

Moses.

[Tony Hale]

No, Edmund Hillary. But it was the guy that, like, free rock climbed.

[Aaron Keenan]

Oh, free solo, guys.

[Tony Hale]

Free solo. Yes, yes, yes. And that there's a part of the brain that's not there, you know, like, there's that fear section is taken out. And I think this guy had a little bit of that. And I was like, how do you. I can't even get on a ladder without thinking about death, you know? And he's just. I think he even responded. Oh, that's sad. But it's fascinating.

[JPC]

Yeah, I guess that is sad. I mean, if you take it in a microcosm, it's like, yeah, for sure.

[Tony Hale]

I mean, he's just like the rush that they get. And sometimes he doesn't even use, like, a safety harness. Yeah, he's just like slack gliding between these, you know, mountainous areas and without any kind of safety. I mean, sometimes he is, and then sometimes he's not. And you're like, what? Like, you're just ask. I don't know.

[Aaron Keenan]

It's fascinating. Tingling.

[Adol]

Ah.

[Tony Hale]

Yeah. Just. It's also those people that kind of, like, jump off buildings, you know, and they just kind of. It's just wild to me.

[Aaron Keenan]

Should we try it?

[Tony Hale]

Yeah. So that means we should do it.

[Aaron Keenan]

Yeah.

[JPC]

Has it. Has doing the podcast made you in any way want to do any of those things, like. Or.

[Tony Hale]

No.

[Adol]

No, Tony.

[Tony Hale]

Like, this is not going to make me love riddles even more.

[Aaron Keenan]

Oh, you're going to hate them more. For sure. For sure.

[Adol]

Tony, what's your secret talent? What's your.

[Tony Hale]

Okay, I think mine are just a little more sedate. I like making rope bowls.

[Adol]

Excuse me.

[Tony Hale]

Sorry, I've got a bit of a cold, so I apologize. But over the pandemic, I got into making rope bowls, and it's something. It's kind of like. Well, it's not like pottery, but you kind of. As you sew this rope together and you mold it into a bowl, and then I paint them and it's really meditative, much like the guy who walks on a slack line. It's very meditative for him, but it's really peaceful. And that's. And I like. I like my dogs and, you know, I have a daughter in college. It's like real simple stuff. I. I'm. I will say I'm not like an adrenaline junkie whatsoever. Like, I Don't like roller coasters. Never have. There's nothing natural about them.

[Aaron Keenan]

I just.

[Tony Hale]

That kind of stuff. I just.

[Aaron Keenan]

I thought they came from the earth. Did they not grow organically?

[Tony Hale]

They did. The secret of Six Flags.

[Aaron Keenan]

Yeah.

[JPC]

You dig deep enough and you find ancient civilizations. Roller coasters that were there before.

[Adol]

Yeah. Six Flags was excavated.

[Aaron Keenan]

That's horrible.

[Adol]

Aaron. They're dinosaur bones that got wet, I want to say.

[Aaron Keenan]

And now we just slide on them. That makes sense.

[Tony Hale]

Holly, today's the day we find all this out.

[JPC]

The rope bowls thing. Were you familiar with the concept of rope bowls, like, before you started doing them or what got you into it? Because that feels like such a. Oh.

[Tony Hale]

I'm looking for a picture to show you, so.

[Adol]

And don't even wait. This year, I want to say the rope bowl is clear. Clemson in Alabama.

[Tony Hale]

Yeah. Well, I will make. I have made rope bowls for football team. Not teams, but people that are fans of certain footballs. Okay. So, like, these are some real bowls I made.

[JPC]

Okay.

[Aaron Keenan]

Oh, my gosh. Those are beautiful.

[Tony Hale]

Aren't they nice?

[Adol]

That's incredible. How do I buy one of these?

[Tony Hale]

Oh, I will make you one. You don't have to. I don't. By the way, when money's involved, it's.

[JPC]

Like the composition of that photo is fantastic. That looks like I'm looking at, like, a West Elm catalog.

[Tony Hale]

It spent me a little time figure out that shot. Thank you.

[Adol]

It's like Halo's like, I don't really have any talents. And then he shows the perfectly framed picture.

[Aaron Keenan]

That's such a Covid thing, though. It's like sourdough bread. Making into ro bowl is a straight line.

[Tony Hale]

I was on a show in. I did the show in Italy for six months, and I was. You know, they all kind of went out. I was kind of the old guy that just liked to stay at home. Anyways, it wasn't boring, but I. So for cast gifts, I made all these rope bowls because I had so much time.

[JPC]

Oh, my.

[Adol]

Incredible.

[Tony Hale]

Isn't that fun? One last thing. Also, do some Christmas ornaments.

[Adol]

What the fuck? This sucks.

[Tony Hale]

I feel awful about myself, so this is my adrenaline.

[JPC]

Wow, that's great. Well, rolls aside on this podcast, I guess kind of our rolls.

[Tony Hale]

Oh, no. I'd like to keep talking about this.

[Adol]

If you don't mind rolls back on the table, but.

[JPC]

Okay. So the rope bowls, they are. Are. You said they're painted, but they're still roped. Right. So you can.

[Tony Hale]

You can't.

[JPC]

You can't put, like, cereal.

[Adol]

This is for, like, Keys and wall. And this is like a catch all versus.

[Tony Hale]

Yeah, yeah. Oh, yeah. Good, good. Well, also, like, I've given them before, like, on gigs and stuff, and they're like, oh, it's like a hat. And I'm like, it's not a hat. I don't know why you keep saying hat, but yeah, it's a. It's a catch all. You don't even have to put anything in it. No, just like, it's just a decorative.

[JPC]

Situation, but you can't put liquid in it.

[Aaron Keenan]

But don' don't eat cereal out of those bowls.

[Tony Hale]

Now, you could if you wanted to, like, make it and then pour something in it to cement the inside if you wanted to. Yeah, maybe that's my next venture.

[JPC]

Yeah.

[Adol]

Now, Tony, I'm very serious about. I need to get my hands on.

[JPC]

One of these rope bowls.

[Tony Hale]

Well, let me just find out your first color.

[JPC]

Okay, well, our root bowls on the show is riddles. And we ask every guest on the show, what is your relationship with riddles? Puzzles, Lateral thinking problems. I think we've even Escape rooms. We've extended it out to these things.

[Tony Hale]

Okay, let me think. I don't know if anybody relates to this. I'm all in. And I think it's such a fun idea. Halfway through, I'm like, ugh, I want a bolt. You know, it's like, one of us.

[Aaron Keenan]

One of us, yeah.

[Tony Hale]

An escape room is like, oh, this is so fun. Let's go. And then halfway through, when it's. I'm just like, I don't. This is chaos. I'm asking for more chaos in my life. They've made this too hard. I don't know what any of these numbers mean, you know, and those people that really, like, get a kick out of it, I'm just like, this is just. Gimme the answer. Just open the window, open the door. I want to get out. You know, and then riddles. It's some. It's fun. Now, now a little bit of a. I think if I'm doing it by myself, I don't like it. But if there's like a. Like you guys, like, if it's like a team and it's like, oh, what about this? What about this? But then when you hit that wall and you're like, okay, why, why, why, why, why? It's. It's that. It's also that thing of, like, I like puzzles, but I like colored puzzles. I don't want, like, all one color where it's just maddening. And I'm just Like, why am I doing this to myself? I want, like, the fun experience of, like, oh, yeah, this is a bunny. Let me find the color of the bunny. And then that's the other piece. You know, like, it's some fun to it.

[Aaron Keenan]

There's more dopamine in that.

[Tony Hale]

Yeah, exactly. Thank you.

[Adol]

There are a lot of riddles. We've. We've been going for seven years somewhere on there.

[JPC]

Wow.

[Tony Hale]

Congratulations, guys. Thank you so much. That's amazing. The seven year itch.

[Aaron Keenan]

What does that mean?

[Adol]

I want a divorce.

[Aaron Keenan]

We all pack our bindles and are out of here.

[Adol]

Ride the rails.

[JPC]

That's so funny, because today is my, my wife and I's seven year anniversary as well.

[Aaron Keenan]

That's crazy.

[Tony Hale]

Was this podcast, like, discovered on your honeymoon?

[Aaron Keenan]

Yeah, kind of.

[JPC]

It's funny. We, like, there were so many things in my life that started around the same time. Like, I started dating my wife, I got a dog, and this podcast started all in the same year. So it's so easy to remember. Dog, seven years old. Wife, seven years old. Podcast marriage, seven years old. No, it's easy. I can't forget this stuff. What are you guys talking about?

[Adol]

Well, we've been going for about seven years, and a lot of the answers to riddles, when you hear it, you go like, like, it's, it is, it's like, obvious. Yeah, but it's a lot of lateral thinking problems are like, it's usually shadow, egg, cloud, stuff like that. And a lot of them, there's information missing. So when you hear the answer, you're like, oh, I wasn't thinking along those lines. Like, I'm missing a huge chunk of help here. So just know that riddles might be frustrating.

[Tony Hale]

Has it helped you in your New York Times Games app doing this podcast?

[Aaron Keenan]

We did for many years before Connections came out. There's a British game show called Only Connect that very similar concepts to it, and people have been submitting those types of, like, puzzles for years. So by the time Connections came out, I was like, oh, okay, I get it.

[Tony Hale]

This is like elementary school.

[JPC]

Yeah.

[Tony Hale]

Wait, so one more question. How has this podcast affected your everyday lives, like in problem solving? And what tools have you learned here.

[JPC]

That has just JP's just like, it's gotta be a pass.

[Aaron Keenan]

Yeah. People call our show a fever dream is sort of the feedback that we get, like a chaotic fever Dre I I it. I will say when I see a riddle in real life, not like bridge trolls, but, like, if someone tells one, I'm. I'm more likely to get it now.

[Tony Hale]

Because I sort of get, what is that? What's that first two? Like, if you said, what are the first two things you do when you hear that riddle that you would suggest to somebody else?

[Aaron Keenan]

It's like the same as, like, Jeopardy. Questions. You, like, look at the structure of the question. You're like, oh, how are they trying to trick? Like, what are they trying to get at?

[Tony Hale]

Yeah, Connection does that too. On New York Times.

[Aaron Keenan]

Yeah, Yeah.

[Adol]

I will say I went last year to London and there's, I guess, a popular game show there called Crystal Maze, and they have, like, a crystal maze experience. And it's all these different challenges and there's like, dexterity and skill games and all this stuff. And one of the rooms was all riddles. And I was like, oh, my God. And every riddle in the room was one we'd done on the show.

[Tony Hale]

Oh, wow.

[Aaron Keenan]

You looked like a genius.

[Adol]

We were with a group of, like, people who work together. And this is like a team building exercise. So these, like, eight people who are in our group are like, this guy is, like, mensa level brilliant. And I'm like, snake Grat. Like, just rattling off stuff. And they're like, this is a Beautiful Mind. And afterwards they're like, how'd you do that? And I go, this is going to sound fake, but I do a riddle podcast.

[JPC]

I will say my experience with it is I read a lot and a lot of times, and I read a lot of fantasy or sci fi. It's wonderful. But when I read fantasy or sci fi, a lot of times there will be, for whatever reason, riddles will come up in the context of this novel. And I almost always know it because there are no new riddles. So the author is just changing some words and borrowing an old riddle as a concept. But it makes me feel so much smarter than the characters who are like, okay, we have to figure out what this riddle is. And I was like, nah, man, I got it.

[Tony Hale]

I did this show called the Mysterious Benedict Society, and there was a lot of riddles in that. And it was. I mean, it really. The being gen you get. The kids were, like, generated by it. It was like, oh, rather than kind of paralyzed. And I think, like, I can get parallel paralyzed. I can become like. Rather than being like, oh, this is cool. Let's see what this is.

[Aaron Keenan]

It's just so funny that some days you wake up and you literally can't do them, and some days you wake up and they all seem easy. It truly just is like, however, like, much water you drank that day Depends on if these riddles are going to come natural or not.

[JPC]

Adol, I don't want to step on your toes, but if we want to do some only connect riddles, I do have a few only connect that might we could kind of use as warmups to get us in.

[Adol]

Let's do it.

[JPC]

You want to do it?

[Adol]

Yeah.

[Tony Hale]

Okay, guys, I'm generated. I'm not. This is a new one for me.

[JPC]

So again, I'm going to give you four words. Or it's not always a word, but it's like a word or a short phrase or whatever. And then you have to tell me what the connection between all four of those things is.

[Tony Hale]

Okay, great.

[JPC]

Okay, so here's your first one. Snake. Macy Black. That's one. Snake is one. And Macy Black is one. The stripes, Red Floyd.

[Adol]

Now these are all. It should be Pink Floyd, it should be White stripes. It should be Macy Gray and White Snake.

[JPC]

Uh huh.

[Adol]

These are all bands with a color scheme slightly askew.

[JPC]

It is the color scheme slightly askew. And you are so correct with all that. Adol. But the answer is slightly different than that.

[Adol]

Oh, they all need white added to them.

[JPC]

Yes.

[Tony Hale]

God damn it.

[Adol]

Because red was good.

[Aaron Keenan]

We normally don't get them that fast. That was crazy.

[Tony Hale]

At all.

[Adol]

And Tony, I guess you crush it in the comedy and acting game and the rope bowl game and the dog.

[JPC]

Game and the I.

[Adol]

But I can solve a riddle.

[Tony Hale]

Damn, that was impressive.

[Aaron Keenan]

That was so fast.

[JPC]

I got to do it for seven years. It's like cocky about it.

[Adol]

I do want to see a scene. Aaron, Tony, and jpc, the three of you are starting a band and first things first, you're trying to come up with a name.

[JPC]

Okay, no, I think that one's already taken. Let me. Hold on.

[Aaron Keenan]

The Beatles.

[Tony Hale]

You're sure it's already taken because I just gave it.

[JPC]

No, I mean I think that's already. Okay, this is just brainstorming. Let's not get so bogged down on one name. Let's just try to generate like other band names.

[Aaron Keenan]

Okay, great. Okay. Beach Boys, Rolling Stones.

[Tony Hale]

What are these? Okay, it could be just like churches. You know how churches nowadays are just one word? Like Haven Rock.

[JPC]

Yep. Yes.

[Aaron Keenan]

Yes.

[JPC]

Okay, I'm writing these down, but maybe we're missing like the forest for the trees. Like we're trying to do like new unique band names.

[Tony Hale]

Okay, Maybe the first letter of each of our names.

[Aaron Keenan]

R.E.M.

[Tony Hale]

There you go.

[Aaron Keenan]

That worked, right? That's something.

[Tony Hale]

By the way. It didn't just work. It did work for several Decades.

[JPC]

Yeah. That's a band.

[Aaron Keenan]

Yeah, it's already a band name. I keep getting that.

[Tony Hale]

THJ that's too close to thc.

[Aaron Keenan]

Yeah.

[JPC]

Well, is it?

[Tony Hale]

But actually, yeah, I just said H. But that's the podcast name I meant to say.

[Aaron Keenan]

Let's see, let's see, let's see, let's see.

[Tony Hale]

T, E, JJ.

[Aaron Keenan]

What about Maroon 5? No.

[Tony Hale]

By the way, Jet. Jet, guys.

[JPC]

Okay.

[Tony Hale]

JPC.

[JPC]

DT. Yeah. We could do Jet Jet and I. Yes. That is a band name. So it is already a band name and a magazine.

[Aaron Keenan]

See?

[JPC]

All right, here's your next one. Filling a line in any direction. So that's your first one. Filling a line in any direction. Clearing four lines at once. Having all five dice be the same and having one card left.

[Adol]

Whoa.

[Aaron Keenan]

It's like when you say the name of the game.

[Adol]

Yahtzee. Poker. Blackjack. Well, connect Four.

[JPC]

Aaron, you're correct. But do you know what those. What the four games are?

[Tony Hale]

No, I'm still trying to understand the question.

[JPC]

Filling a line in any direction.

[Adol]

Bingo.

[JPC]

Bingo. Clearing four lines at once.

[Adol]

Tetris.

[JPC]

Tetris.

[Tony Hale]

Oh, okay.

[JPC]

Having all five decks to say.

[Adol]

Sorry, Tony, did you have a note for me?

[Tony Hale]

I thought it was xl. Tic Tac Toe. Oh, yeah.

[Aaron Keenan]

Tic Tac Toe. Oh, that works.

[JPC]

It doesn't. Shit, that's right. Nope. Having all five dice be the same.

[Adol]

Yahtzee.

[JPC]

That's Yahtzee. And then having one card left.

[Aaron Keenan]

Uno.

[Adol]

Uno.

[JPC]

Mm.

[Aaron Keenan]

That's how I got that one. But, Tony, I didn't know the first three made no sense to me. And that.

[Tony Hale]

First of all, I just think it's so sweet that you guys are really trying to not make me feel so bad, because I hear the question and I'm still processing the first line of what you're asking.

[JPC]

All right, I'm gonna go slower. Okay. So the first one.

[Tony Hale]

I don't know if that's gonna help, but, yeah, it might not.

[JPC]

It'll help me. Copper wire.

[Tony Hale]

Okay.

[JPC]

Second one. Silver paste.

[Tony Hale]

Okay.

[JPC]

Third one. Leonard Bernstein.

[Tony Hale]

Oh, God.

[JPC]

Fourth one. A train manager.

[Aaron Keenan]

Whoa.

[Tony Hale]

Okay.

[JPC]

Copper wire. Silver painter.

[Tony Hale]

Is everybody else envisioning these, or are they just thinking of the. Is everybody picturing it?

[Adol]

Oh, I'm actually panicking.

[JPC]

I'm doing yakety sacks in my head.

[Aaron Keenan]

I think I might know, but I want to give. Let's give people.

[Adol]

I'm mostly refraining from yelling. These are all characters from Metal Gear Solid.

[JPC]

I guess right now I'm doing the Scooby Doo thing where they're all chasing each Other. Through hallways.

[Tony Hale]

And what was the last one? What was the last one?

[JPC]

A train manager. Leonard Bernstein. A train manager. Silver.

[Aaron Keenan]

Those two are the most helpful. I think the last two are the most helpful.

[Tony Hale]

Okay.

[Adol]

All conductors.

[Aaron Keenan]

Yep.

[Adol]

Wait, no, that was funny.

[Tony Hale]

What's the musical? What's the musical? With the train?

[Adol]

Train, Train, Train. With the trolley.

[Tony Hale]

Trolley. Is that Leonard Bernstein?

[JPC]

These are conductors. Electric conductors. Leonard Bernstein is like orchestral conductors.

[Adol]

Bradley Cooper. Right.

[JPC]

And train conductors.

[Aaron Keenan]

Yeah.

[Tony Hale]

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[JPC]

Wait, Bradley Cooper played Leonard Bernstein?

[Aaron Keenan]

Yeah, in that movie.

[Tony Hale]

Okay, Maestro.

[Aaron Keenan]

Maestro.

[Tony Hale]

Is that the answer?

[JPC]

The answer was Bradley Cooper. Your next one is bullwhip.

[Tony Hale]

Wait, what was the answer to that one?

[JPC]

Oh, conductors.

[Aaron Keenan]

They were all different types of conductors. Copper wires, a conductor, train managers, sales repay.

[Adol]

Guys, I need that rope bowl, please. Let's ease up on Tony.

[Tony Hale]

You still haven't told me your favorite color.

[Adol]

Green.

[Tony Hale]

Which type of green, please?

[JPC]

Hey, Tony. Excuse me, Adol. What's going on? That felt like I know you. That's. That felt like a panic call out.

[Adol]

It is green. It is green. Honestly, Kermit Green is probably my favorite color.

[Tony Hale]

Oh, okay. So a shamrock.

[Adol]

Yes.

[Tony Hale]

A Kelly green.

[Adol]

Yes. Kelly Green.

[Aaron Keenan]

Beautiful.

[Tony Hale]

All right, let me just make that.

[JPC]

Adoles has always just seen K. Green, and it's like Kermit Green.

[Aaron Keenan]

Yeah, it's Kermit Green.

[JPC]

That's got to be Kermit Green, because.

[Adol]

Kelly Green is John Travolta's wife, right?

[JPC]

Yes.

[Aaron Keenan]

Tony, can I ask you a question?

[Tony Hale]

Please?

[Aaron Keenan]

This is actually sort of a dream.

[Tony Hale]

Anything to distract from these riddles.

[Aaron Keenan]

Do you have a favorite Muppet?

[Tony Hale]

Oh, damn. I love this question so much. I collected Muppets when I was a kid, and Beaker was my favorite.

[Adol]

Whoa.

[Tony Hale]

And actually, side note, I did this cartoon called Archibald's Next Big Thing that came from a children's book I did years and years ago. One of the best jobs I've ever done. And I was attracted to Archibald because he looked like Beaker. And my favorite color is yellow. And so Archibald was yellow. So he was like a yellow beaker.

[Aaron Keenan]

Oh, my God.

[Tony Hale]

And I also really loved Fozzie, of course, and Scooter.

[Aaron Keenan]

Oh, Scooter.

[Adol]

Scooter's underrated.

[Aaron Keenan]

Classic.

[Tony Hale]

Scooter is underrated.

[Adol]

I think I'm a Swedem's guy, but Beaker's probably in my top five.

[Tony Hale]

Why am I blanking on Swedem's?

[Adol]

Sweedum's.

[Aaron Keenan]

He's a big guy.

[Adol]

He's like a full size. He's like a guy in a huge costume.

[Aaron Keenan]

Hey, Wait for me.

[Tony Hale]

Gosh, I don't remember him at all.

[Adol]

He's kind of like a. He's kind of like.

[Tony Hale]

Was he in the 80s or was he a later Muppet?

[Aaron Keenan]

Early Muppet. He was, like, in the Muppet Movie. He's like the size of a human, and he's always running.

[Tony Hale]

Oh, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes.

[Adol]

I also like the shrimp guy. Who's the shrimp guy?

[Aaron Keenan]

Oh, Pepe the Prime.

[Adol]

Pepe the Prime.

[Aaron Keenan]

I'll go change. Okay. Yeah, he's the best.

[Tony Hale]

And the chefs, no one can match the chef.

[Aaron Keenan]

We love the Swedish Chef on the show. We do.

[Tony Hale]

We're.

[Aaron Keenan]

We're big Swedish Chef fans.

[Tony Hale]

I think the Muppets need a real comeback.

[Aaron Keenan]

I think they do, too. I would love to see you. Have you ever acted with a Muppet?

[Tony Hale]

I want you just to stop at acting.

[Aaron Keenan]

Have you ever acted before we get.

[JPC]

Real on this show? What are you doing up there, Tony?

[Tony Hale]

Exactly.

[Aaron Keenan]

Have you been on Sesame Street?

[Tony Hale]

Rope bowls in my bunker? I have never been on a Sesame street, but I. On a Sesame Street. I've never been on Sesame street, but I.

[Adol]

Every city has one.

[Tony Hale]

Yeah.

[Aaron Keenan]

I think you would do very well acting with.

[Tony Hale]

Oh, I would love it. I'd love to. I mean, doing. My friend did A. Jack McBrayer did a kid's show for a little bit, and I guessed it on his show. And it's just so simple and sweet, and it's just so fun.

[Aaron Keenan]

Well, I want you to have a scene with Beaker before you die.

[Tony Hale]

Okay.

[Adol]

I do want to see a scene.

[Aaron Keenan]

You two solve mysteries, maybe.

[Adol]

I do want to see a scene. Tony, would you like to play Beaker? Would you like to talk? Would you like to act with Beaker?

[Tony Hale]

He doesn't say much, so I'll be Beaker.

[Adol]

So, Tony, you're gonna be your version of Beaker. So this is sort of like you were cast as Beaker. So this is Tony, which is pretty much Buster Bliss.

[JPC]

Yeah.

[Adol]

Wait a minute. It's all.

[Aaron Keenan]

Oh, my God.

[Adol]

Piecing it together.

[Aaron Keenan]

Oh, my God.

[Tony Hale]

Oh, my God.

[Aaron Keenan]

Oh, my God.

[Adol]

So you're Beaker and Aaron. Your favorite Muppet is Miss Piggy.

[Aaron Keenan]

I'd say my favorite Muppet is Gonzo, but I'll play whomever.

[Tony Hale]

Oh, God.

[Adol]

I want you to play Gonzo.

[Tony Hale]

What a nose. What a nose.

[Aaron Keenan]

What a nose. I actually don't think. I don't feel confident in my Gonzo impression. So I can be Miss Piggy or I can be a human. Whatever you need me to be.

[Adol]

I would like you to be your version of Miss Piggy. And this is sort of like. So this is like a B movie. This is like a. Just some college kids kind of putting together their version of the Muppets, I guess. So sort of an off kilter, just left of center version of the Muppets. With you as Miss Piggy and Tony as Beaker.

[Tony Hale]

I don't know what to do.

[Aaron Keenan]

Beaker, we gotta bury the body. Beaker, focus. Grab the shovel. Beaker. Beaker. Slap, slap. You look at me. We killed him together. Kermit's lifeless bodies up. Yeah, that's okay, Beaker. He was our leader.

[Tony Hale]

He drew too much attention.

[Aaron Keenan]

Oh, wait, wait. Here comes Fuzzy.

[Adol]

Wake awake. Wake up. Hey. Oh, shit.

[Aaron Keenan]

We killed him. We killed him.

[Adol]

Beaker. Beaker, get a hold of yourself.

[JPC]

Bigger.

[Aaron Keenan]

Slap, slap.

[Tony Hale]

Slap.

[Aaron Keenan]

Slap.

[Tony Hale]

Slap, slap.

[Adol]

Okay, okay.

[Aaron Keenan]

All right.

[Tony Hale]

Help. Go.

[Aaron Keenan]

We're just going to. We're just going to bury the body like this never happen.

[Adol]

All right, here comes the Count. Here comes the Count. Be cool, be cool, be cool.

[Tony Hale]

So sexy, Beaker.

[Adol]

What was that?

[Aaron Keenan]

What was that, Beaker? Super sexy Beaker.

[JPC]

Hey, what's going on here? Oh, it's my friend, Fi. Miss Piggy.

[Tony Hale]

Oh, wow.

[JPC]

Oh, don't, don't reminds me. No, it's on the tip of my tongue. Bingo.

[Tony Hale]

That's fine.

[Aaron Keenan]

The Count is pretty sexy. I actually did have this conversation recently about who the hottest Muppet is, and someone said, that guy who throws the fish, and I just about died.

[Adol]

Oh, the mustache. Lou Zealand.

[Aaron Keenan]

Yeah, Lou Zealand.

[Adol]

Lou Zealand, Yeah.

[Aaron Keenan]

I don't know if I agree with that.

[Tony Hale]

Oh, actually, and also, the Swedish Chef threw a lot of fish, didn't he? Also, No.

[Aaron Keenan]

I guess they're throwing a lot of fish in that show.

[JPC]

He's a guy with a mustache. And I was like Pasquale from Chuck E. Cheese.

[Aaron Keenan]

Oh, yeah.

[Tony Hale]

Oh, Chuck E. Cheese. Tony, I appreciate it.

[Adol]

At some point, Tony, I really appreciate that Beaker was almost sounded like a. Hey, batta, batta, ba ba. Swing batta. No hitter.

[JPC]

No hitter.

[Tony Hale]

No hitter. That reminds me on. When I was on Veep, they called me a bitchy mime because I was never allowed to speak. So I could just stand behind Salina and just make weird noises. My nonverbal got pretty good.

[Adol]

Truly, one of the best performances of.

[Tony Hale]

All these comes from so much pain.

[Adol]

I mean, unbelievable and almost true to life nowadays.

[JPC]

There is something pressy about a show like Veep where they're like, hey, so the whole vibe is that we're going to be, like, making Fun of you as characters, but we're actually just going to be making fun of what you look like physically, which is the real human being, dude, is you.

[Tony Hale]

Timothy Simons got it bad. Like, he played Jonah. They called him, like, what was it? Play DOH on a flagpole.

[Aaron Keenan]

You're not even your mom's favorite. Jonah. Jonah. That's my favorite.

[Tony Hale]

And there was one time, like, the sad thing is when it wasn't even scripted. So we would be in a scene and, like, I remember Reed Scott turned to me and he goes, hey, cow eyes. And I was like, sorry.

[Adol]

Excuse me.

[Tony Hale]

I was like, what? That's not in the script, man.

[JPC]

Getting too lost in it. Hey, man, I'm really sorry about cow eyes. I.

[Tony Hale]

What? Easy trigger.

[Adol]

I feel like just in Chicago in general, like, when I first came to Chicago for improv, I would absolutely stand of Dan back at All's Way and Dave, where I'm like, I don't want them. I don't want to be perceived by them because they're so. I can't imagine being on set with all those people and being like, everyone's a sniper and they're targets on my head.

[Tony Hale]

And also, Dan back at all the stuff that came out of his mouth, the crassness and how he treated his assistant. I mean, it was just so fluid. And also, David Pasquay, if you get a chance, watch the blooper reel from Veep. I think it might have been season one or two, when David Paskwezi is taught they're at the family dinner, and he just goes off, and it's just magic. It's magic.

[Aaron Keenan]

He's unbelievable.

[JPC]

Very fast.

[Aaron Keenan]

Tony, I'm so excited to get to tell you this. Last time I saw you, but my favorite scene in Anything is Veep, when Selina finds out she's gonna get president. Be president. And you get a nosebleed.

[Tony Hale]

Yeah, and I get a nosebleed. I get a nosebleed.

[Aaron Keenan]

It's the funniest fucking joke, you know?

[Tony Hale]

And actually that happened to the writer. That's how it came. She was laughing so hard that she got a nosebleed. And they gave it to Gary.

[Adol]

Holy shit.

[Aaron Keenan]

They gave it to Gary. They gave it to Gary.

[Tony Hale]

And we were actually really sick that day, which is wild.

[Adol]

That's so funny.

[Aaron Keenan]

Well, you're cracked open. And then the good comedy juice poured out.

[Tony Hale]

That was fun. Thank you. Editing.

[Adol]

Tony, all this talk about behind the scenes and Veep is really, actually fun and interesting. But we're going to take a break and get back to riddles, which I think is depressing and hard and sad. So let's take a quick break and we'll be right back. Back with more riddles.

[Aaron Keenan]

Blech. Bleh. Blech.

[JPC]

Oh. What's going on, Aaron?

[Tony Hale]

Did you eat snails again?

[Aaron Keenan]

Yes, but that's not why I'm upset. I'm upset because I'm just thinking about how like, fast food is so unhealthy and just like thawed out patties dipped in grease and you just. My body never feels like actually satiated after eating it. But I want like food fast in the week while I'm busy. Like, I want to be able to just have like, I just want to have like great chef crafted meals.

[JPC]

Oh, Aaron.

[Aaron Keenan]

In a dietician approved menu. Is that so hard?

[JPC]

First of all, and Aaron, do not take this as a slight against you. If I see you trying to eat more snails, I'm going to start slapping them out of your hands. Okay? Because you were eating snails the whole time you were talking.

[Aaron Keenan]

It just makes me want them more.

[JPC]

Yeah, but they're ground snails. These aren't food snails. Aaron. You need Tempo. Tempo can provide you with protein packed fuel to save time without compromising your health goals. It's a weekly delivery service that delivers chef crafted meals from a dietitian approved menu. Fresh to your door.

[Adol]

Yeah. And Aaron, with new recipes each week that are made with real ingredients and nutrient rich. They make it easy to keep up a healthy lifestyle. For instance, I recently had an order with the apricot herb chicken and couscous. It was sensational. They have honey carrots, brussels sprouts, and I also had the harissa spiced chicken thighs and couscous with roasted chickpea salad because I was feeling a little bit naughty.

[JPC]

Oui, oui. Plus Aaron. Tempo offers a variety of meals for different dietary and taste preferences including protein.

[Aaron Keenan]

Including protein packed, calorie conscious, carb conscious, and fiber rich.

[JPC]

I couldn't get that one. She ate it. She ate that still before I could even come close to getting it.

[Aaron Keenan]

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[JPC]

Tempo don't eat snails off the ground. No, eat us. We like it.

[Adol]

Jpc. Stop staring at me. Take a picture. It'll last longer. Right, Aaron? Right. That's what they say.

[Aaron Keenan]

Yeah.

[Tony Hale]

Take a picture.

[Aaron Keenan]

It'll last. Longer.

[JPC]

Oh, hey, guys. I'm behind you. You are staring at a picture of me. That's a picture of me that you're talking to. I'm behind you.

[Aaron Keenan]

You look so sweet.

[Adol]

Oh, wait, Is this an aura frame?

[JPC]

Yep. Yep, that's an aura frame. That's the one that I got you guys for Mother's Day. Kind of a subtle hint.

[Adol]

I love aura frames. I mean, it's. What a clear picture. That's beautiful.

[Aaron Keenan]

It makes sense that it was named the best digital photo frame by Wirecutter and featured in 495 gift guides last year.

[Adol]

Yeah, Aura frame makes the perfect gift. I gave one to my mom. I gave one to my sister. They're absolutely obsessed with it. It takes about two minutes to set up the frame using the Aura app. And my favorite thing is you can share photos or videos from any device, and they will instantly appear on the frame wherever it is in the world. No memory card required.

[JPC]

Yeah, that's kind of why I got you guys the aura frame. Because we would do a lot of, like, we would meet up in real life and, like, you guys would give me, like, coffee orders, and I'd be like, oh, no, it's. It's jpc, like from friendship and like the podcast.

[Adol]

Ooh, yeah, actually.

[Aaron Keenan]

And I would take a grande latte.

[JPC]

Yeah. So this is the big problem. It's like, I. Like, this isn't even. Like, we're all at home recording. This isn't like the context where you would order a coffee. It's like, I got you the frame with pictures of me so you'd remember that that's your friend. Like a person. You know, like, that's pictures of us hanging out together, not like you guys taking a photo with a waiter. Hmm.

[Aaron Keenan]

You know, these photos look like real prints. They have meticulously calibrated, high resolution displays. Unless you look really closely or see photos transition, you'll never know it's a screen. Oh, look, there's me and my barista.

[JPC]

No, see that again. That's okay. I'm sorry. Well, that is a picture of you with your barista. Wait, do you guys take pictures of you and your baristas? How did.

[Adol]

Here's me holding my cup of coffee. That's like, I want to say five, nine, maybe 162.

[JPC]

Okay, that is an exact description of that barista, but it's not of me. A little taller, A little heavier than that. Okay, now I'm getting the confusion because it seems like you guys do a lot of barista pictures. Huh.

[Aaron Keenan]

Mm.

[JPC]

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[Adol]

Oh, you wrote Abdul on my coffee. It's Adol.

[JPC]

Whatever, Abdul. Enjoy the coffee.

[Tony Hale]

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[JPC]

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[Adol]

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[Adol]

We'Re back and we're going to be doing some. Let's just. Let's go into the. We had an appetizer. We had the moz sticks. Let's get into a full entree.

[Tony Hale]

Did you say Moz sticks? Like mozzarella sticks? Yeah, that's my childhood, man. That's Applebee's. I love mozzarella sticks.

[Aaron Keenan]

That should be an ad for Applebee's.

[JPC]

That's my childhood.

[Adol]

They should use that instead of. Yeah, what is Applebee's was eaten, first of all.

[Tony Hale]

Oh, yeah. I thought you were about to say what is Applebee's? Like you've never heard of it. Well, this would have ended that podcast.

[Aaron Keenan]

He logged on.

[Adol]

I will say, where are you from in the country?

[Tony Hale]

Like Tallahassee, Florida. Jealous.

[Adol]

Here's the thing, Tony. This works perfectly because I'll tell this story very quickly.

[Tony Hale]

Please.

[Adol]

I went to Florida to visit a friend. His brother came to pick me up from the airport. Yeah, I've never met his brother before. So I get in the car, but his brother is one of the funniest people of all time. This guy named Joey Romain.

[Tony Hale]

Well, I'LL be the judge of that.

[Aaron Keenan]

Thank you so much.

[Adol]

He'll come on later. So his brother picks me up at the airport. Never met this guy before. We get in the car, he's like, how was your flight? I'm like, good. He's like, yeah. Joey's excited to see you. I'm like, I'm excited to see Joey. He's like, I'm Justin. I'm like, I'm Adel. So nice to meet you. He's like, I heard about. I heard a lot about you.

[JPC]

Yeah?

[Adol]

Yeah. And then at some point, we're kind of sitting in the car and he goes, are you hungry at all, or do you want some wawa? And I'm like, oh, this is Joey's brother. He's got to be also funny. So I go, yeah, I want wawa, baby firsty. Baby want wawa.

[Aaron Keenan]

Oh, no.

[Adol]

And his brother goes, what? And I go, what? And he goes, do you want wawa? And I go, yes, baby firsty. Baby went wawa.

[Aaron Keenan]

Oh, I hate that.

[Adol]

And he goes, what are you doing? I go, what are you doing? And he goes, I'm asking if you want wawa? And I go, I'm saying, baby firsty.

[Aaron Keenan]

This is a nightmare. Who's on first?

[Adol]

Cause, Tony, I grew up in Illinois. Never heard of wawa in my life.

[Tony Hale]

Yeah, I don't even think we had a wawa in Tallahassee.

[Adol]

This was in St. Petersburg.

[Tony Hale]

Oh, that explains.

[Adol]

Somewhere around Tampa.

[JPC]

Florida, is its own, like, strange microcosm.

[Tony Hale]

I don't know if we need to say strange. I think it's.

[JPC]

Yeah, you're right. We shouldn't put that stigma on Florida.

[Adol]

It's a beautiful swamp.

[Tony Hale]

Yeah. Did you. Do you. Do you have Whataburger?

[Aaron Keenan]

Oh, I've had. That's in Texas mostly, right?

[JPC]

Yeah.

[Tony Hale]

Yeah. That's a real Southern thing, too.

[Adol]

I do think that a lot of fast food, breakfast.

[JPC]

It would not be surprising me if there was whataburgers in Florida. Because people move to Florida from the places they're from, and then they bring with them their fast food chain. And they say, like, this now exists in Florida.

[Tony Hale]

Yeah, it's a great place. Florida's a great place. It gets a bad rap.

[JPC]

My wife. My wife is from Miami and she'll tell people she's from Florida. And I'm like, you gotta stop telling people you're from Florida because you're not. Like, you're from Miami, which is, like, way different than Florida.

[Tony Hale]

Yeah, Well, I will say that is if I looked at. I think Miami is more Florida and like Tallahassee is more Georgian because you're right on a panhandle.

[JPC]

Yeah, that makes sense.

[Tony Hale]

And kind of Miami and Boca, Fort Le, those do feel Florida, whereas Tallahassee, kind of. Those on the north, they kind of feel a little more Alabama, Georgia.

[Adol]

And Tony, you said you were in Italy recently for six months. What's, what would you say is the number one difference between Florida and Italy?

[Tony Hale]

And Italy. Italy. Oh, man, the people just in Italy, they're so wonderful. But they just sound mad. There's a lot of like, what is it? What is it? Are you mad? I told this story on a talk show once, but I remember the costume guy who was the wardrobe designer. I was. Had this, it took place in the, during the Black Plague. And so I had this, I had this like medieval kind of look, but I had this belt and I said, can you tighten this belt? And he goes, no, you have an odd shape. And I said, I'm sorry. He goes, wow.

[Aaron Keenan]

All over again.

[Tony Hale]

But they're just. And like when I was, when I was like in hair and makeup, you know, they're speaking Italian, but it's just this like. And, but they're just like saying, would you have a breakfast? Like, it's not, you know, it's not. But it sounds a little angry.

[JPC]

That's so funny.

[Adol]

A very combative. It's one of the Romance languages, I believe. But it sounds very combative.

[Tony Hale]

That didn't sound very romantic to me.

[JPC]

Different people have different conceptions of romance. That sounds very romantic to me.

[Tony Hale]

That's very true. So you and your wife have a very aggressive life.

[Aaron Keenan]

Yeah, exactly.

[Adol]

Dave Pasqueze, I think, lives in Italy six months out of the year.

[Aaron Keenan]

That's crazy.

[Tony Hale]

Oh yeah. He also shot Da Vinci Code. Wasn't he in DaVinci Code?

[Adol]

Yes. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Or angels and demons, I think.

[Tony Hale]

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Adol]

Let's go. So this is gonna be a main full on riddle.

[JPC]

Okay.

[Tony Hale]

What if the riddle is just my life? What if I'm being punked? And it's like Tony Hale is the riddle. And it's just like this is my life where all my bullies are coming in and it's just explaining everything.

[Aaron Keenan]

It's like, oh, yeah, you figured it out.

[Tony Hale]

That makes sense that Sean did that.

[Adol]

Woo.

[Tony Hale]

We solved.

[JPC]

Could be a nice direction for the show. I mean, we've been doing it for seven years. We got to find some fertile ground somewhere.

[Tony Hale]

Yeah.

[Adol]

I want to ask about Sean.

[JPC]

What did he do? What did he do?

[Adol]

Because that's got to be. He didn't hesitate. That's a real name.

[Aaron Keenan]

That's a real name.

[Adol]

I can only assume Connery. So let's see here. The main riddle is what ring is square? What ring is square?

[Tony Hale]

Gosh. I immediately think of Lord of the Rings. But that's.

[JPC]

Oh. Oh, I think I know it.

[Aaron Keenan]

Yes, I might know it too.

[Tony Hale]

Oh, oh. Then I think about an alarm system.

[JPC]

Wow.

[Tony Hale]

Okay.

[Aaron Keenan]

Yeah, that or a ring light. Or like a ring camera. What is it called?

[JPC]

Well, a ring light is called a ring light and a ring camera is called a ring camera.

[Aaron Keenan]

I was thinking of ring camera.

[JPC]

Okay, got it.

[Aaron Keenan]

Could it be a boxing ring?

[JPC]

I was gonna say boxing ring.

[Adol]

Boxing ring.

[JPC]

That makes sense.

[Tony Hale]

Ooh, that Lee. You guys are. Damn.

[JPC]

It's lateral. You gotta go lateral with it.

[Aaron Keenan]

A scene. Okay. Jpc, you're a boxer in a movie. And Tony, you're like his. What's the guy who, like, hypes him up?

[Tony Hale]

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. His.

[Adol]

Mickey.

[Aaron Keenan]

Coach. His coach before the big fight.

[JPC]

Okay. All right.

[Tony Hale]

You got this, man. Come on, let's go.

[JPC]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Tony Hale]

Hey, listen, you got beat up bad, dude. You got beat up bad. But this time.

[JPC]

Who was that guy?

[Tony Hale]

That's your opponent, man. That's the reason you're here. That's the reason. We're about to make $2 million and you're about to screw us up.

[JPC]

Was he supposed to hit me while I was just peeing before the match?

[Tony Hale]

What the living hell, man? No, he's supposed to. He's supposed to hit you in the square ring is what he's supposed to do.

[JPC]

That's what I thought was gonna happen today, but he beat the shit out of me.

[Tony Hale]

I know, because all you kept was asking was, why is this called a ring? And it's a square. You gotta focus on the fight, man.

[JPC]

But I didn't know that. We were in the middle of the fight. I thought we were just two guys hanging out. Does he really taste you, like in real life?

[Tony Hale]

We had this whole. We had this entire conversation. You know that big famous guy, Jake. Whatever his name is. Jake Ball or what's his name. The guy who's Jake Ball. He's always out of his mind, you know?

[JPC]

Yeah.

[Tony Hale]

You know he made like $10 million on a fight. Let me tell you what he wasn't thinking. Yeah, he made $10 million. You got the same publicity for this. You've been told this a thousand times. Jake Paul. That's his name, Jake. You've been on Good Morning America talking about this I don't know how you show up today and you don't know what's going on.

[JPC]

Okay. I just. My thing, I think maybe is that I'm so confused when it's a fight and when it's a talk. Because I do remember going on Good Morning America and beating the shit out of that little guy.

[Adol]

Good Morning, America. We are here.

[JPC]

Not for you, motherfucker.

[Aaron Keenan]

Scene.

[Tony Hale]

I'm in the back going, show, show, show, show, show.

[Adol]

No better, no bada. No better swing. Tony. Pissed off. Would you be? If at some point you realize the three of us are looking at a shared document where all the answers are.

[Aaron Keenan]

That would be so mean.

[JPC]

Oh, wow.

[Tony Hale]

I actually wouldn't be that pissed off about it. I'd be jealous.

[Adol]

Well, here's the next riddle, and there is no shared doc. It's just old and ancient. It runs for centuries but never moves. It has a mighty roar, but no lungs or throat. What is it?

[Tony Hale]

Oh, I went to the Wall of China, but then it didn't add up towards the end.

[Aaron Keenan]

Yeah, a roller coaster. Old and ancient.

[Adol]

Old and ancient. Runs for centuries but never moves. It has a mighty roar, but no lungs or throat. What is it?

[JPC]

I was thinking like an old Roman aqueduct or like a cistern. And the roar would be like the roar of the water moving through it.

[Tony Hale]

By the way, this seven years of doing this is really coming. Clear. Guys, you're so good at this.

[Aaron Keenan]

Is it a waterfall?

[Adol]

It's a waterfall.

[Tony Hale]

My gosh, that's so obvious. And that's so good. You got that?

[Aaron Keenan]

I gotta tell you, Cistern, maybe it's because we really are, like, blown away that you agreed to be on our show when we're panic getting these, but in every other episode, we are flailing like, we have never done this well, ever, ever, ever.

[Tony Hale]

I want you guys to completely receive your gifting because you are gifted at this. And I need you to accept it and say thank you to. We are good.

[Aaron Keenan]

Thank you, Tony. We are good.

[JPC]

And also for context, Tony does a show where he talks to, like, really interesting, accomplished people, and he's giving us compliments. So it does track that. Like, there's gotta be some sincerity in here. He has a baseline to compare it with.

[Tony Hale]

Yeah. And also, I don't. I feel inferior to those people. And. Or I feel. What is it? Less than. I feel less than those people. But with you guys, I feel, like, superior. These are douchebags.

[JPC]

You're doing it right.

[Tony Hale]

I'd give them compliments.

[Adol]

Tony. Here's the next riddle. Let Me see here, I'm squinting a little bit. This snake can give you a burn, and when coiled up, it's the opposite of a plate. This snake can give you a burn.

[Tony Hale]

Oh, it's on top of a stove.

[Adol]

It's opposite of a plate. You could also smoke it.

[Aaron Keenan]

He's making this up.

[JPC]

I just got what you were trying to do, Adeline. I was like so fucking confused.

[Tony Hale]

I still don't have it. I still don't get what you're trying to do.

[Aaron Keenan]

He's tried to create a riddle that only you would get based on an interest or hobby you may have.

[Tony Hale]

Oh, damn it. It's a rope bowl. Holy hell, Tony, you got one. Oh, you are just. That's very kind of you. That's very kind of you, but can we just acknowledge that those. They two got it before me also?

[Adol]

Tony, I gotta get my rope bowl.

[Tony Hale]

Please, let's just. Oh, you're getting it. But like, even, even that they got before me.

[JPC]

Brother Adel is panicking so much, he sees, he sees the rope moltone is making, being thrown into the trash, being like that really mean guy.

[Adol]

This guy was not at all.

[Tony Hale]

I got that Kelly green rope bowl in vision.

[Adol]

I mean, I will say Kelly Green Rope bowl is a good band name.

[Tony Hale]

Yeah, it is. Okay, Kelly Green Robo.

[Aaron Keenan]

It's a hit. Hit.

[Adol]

It's a hit.

[Aaron Keenan]

All right, Adol, I'm ready for.

[JPC]

About to be googling. How do I get milk out of a rope bowl so fast?

[Adol]

Oh, yeah, Kelly green root bowl's got to be.

[Tony Hale]

If you eat your cereal out of it, I'm going to be pissed.

[Adol]

Hey, Tony, the bowl got ruined, but not cuz me.

[JPC]

Yeah, I'll tell you why.

[Tony Hale]

It's made out of ro.

[JPC]

Hey, Tony, I love the hat that you made me, but it doesn't hold milk. Is that.

[Tony Hale]

Yeah.

[Adol]

Yeah. If you, if you ever open a store much like what's his name open like a camera shop. Jason Lee opened a camera shop. Tony, you gotta open up. Yeah, Rope bowls.

[Aaron Keenan]

Oh, yeah.

[Tony Hale]

Wait, Jason Lee, he opened up a what store?

[Adol]

He opened up like a camera store. Really? In Arizona or something. But it's like Jason Lee's cameras, Like he's just like, I love photography, I love cameras, and he just opened up a camera store.

[JPC]

Wait, does he work there? He doesn't work.

[Adol]

Yeah, I mean, he has other employees. Like Hugh Jackman's coffee shop in New York, where it's like, he might be there.

[Aaron Keenan]

Hugh Jackman has a coffee shop in New York?

[Adol]

Aaron, wake up.

[JPC]

Billy Corgan has a tea shop in the suburbs.

[Tony Hale]

And then Tony hails at your local farmer's Market. Hey, bitch.

[Adol]

Have some radishes.

[Aaron Keenan]

Tony. I would. The people of Los Angeles.

[JPC]

I think Buster Bluth just called me a bitch when I was shopping for eggs.

[Tony Hale]

Yeah, bust would go, hey, bit.

[JPC]

Tony.

[Adol]

Hale's Hey, Bitch rope bowls.

[Tony Hale]

Hey, bitch.

[Adol]

Oh, my God. That should be Applebee's new slogan.

[JPC]

Yeah, Adam, that should be Applebee's new slogan for sure.

[Adol]

That was amazing. Okay, okay, okay, okay, okay. This one's just for Tony. This is a real one. I'm not making this up. This is just for Tony.

[Tony Hale]

The spoon feeding that's happening is really fantastic.

[Adol]

An archaeologist found a coin dated 81 B.C. but knew it was a fake. How did they know? An archaeologist found a coin dated 81 B.C. but knew it was a fake coin. How did they know?

[Tony Hale]

Is it something that. Coins didn't exist before. Christ. Wait.

[Aaron Keenan]

Yeah. Jesus Christ invented money.

[Adol]

I do want to see a circle.

[Tony Hale]

Wait, 81 BC. Okay, wait. 81 BC.

[Adol]

I didn't want to see a seed. Tony, you're Jesus follower.

[Tony Hale]

Yes.

[Adol]

Aaron, JPC and I, we're sort of your followers. And today's the day where you pitch us on the concept of wait.

[Tony Hale]

What's the answer?

[JPC]

Maybe we'll find it. Maybe we'll find it.

[Adol]

Maybe we'll find it along the way.

[Tony Hale]

Okay, wait, can you back up? What was the game again?

[Adol]

You're Jesus, the rest of us are your followers. And today's the day where you came up with the bright idea of money, the concept of money. And you're pitching us on money. There he is. There he is. There he is.

[Aaron Keenan]

There he is. Hi.

[Tony Hale]

Hi.

[Aaron Keenan]

Hey, Jesus teacher.

[Tony Hale]

Hey, guys. Sit down, sit down, sit down. I got some fish and some bread. Oh, yes. First of all, thank you so much for being here today. Did you guys know how much I love you?

[Aaron Keenan]

Oh, my God. So much. Jesus, you love us.

[JPC]

We love you too, Jesus.

[Tony Hale]

I do love you very much.

[Adol]

Just one fish and one bread.

[Tony Hale]

Well, there are 5,000 people. I noticed that you were down at the shop and you stole the apple. You know, I'm not a huge fan of that.

[Adol]

Yeah.

[Tony Hale]

So I'm going to today invent a little process called money, money, money. And I need for you to take out some of your sales sackcloth.

[Adol]

Jesus. In front of everyone?

[Tony Hale]

Well, no, just your spare sackcloth in your bag. Not wearing.

[Aaron Keenan]

Oh, okay, great. Yep.

[Adol]

Here we go.

[JPC]

I thought he meant underwear. Did anyone else think he meant underwear.

[Tony Hale]

When he did not sackcloth here's the fabric.

[Adol]

Here's about 6 inches of my sackcloth.

[Tony Hale]

All right, well, okay. We don't need six inches. And if you could just. So actually, let's take that. Oh, that's so nice. You only have five pieces of sackcloth, and we have about 5,000 people here today. I got the fish in the mud. I'm gonna do something where, if you jpc. Could you rip the sackcloth, put it back in the bag?

[Adol]

Plant. Audience plant. They know each other.

[JPC]

No, I've never met this man. I mean, no, I know he's Jesus.

[Tony Hale]

How could you say you never met me? Because you specifically asked for the first letter and the last letter of your name to be my name, and then you wanted Paul's to be in the middle. Jesus.

[JPC]

Paul.

[Adol]

Christ.

[JPC]

I just love Paul. Okay, I wanted a little something from Paul.

[Tony Hale]

Thank you. I know. I appreciate that. He is a rock.

[JPC]

I don't want to overstep.

[Tony Hale]

That's Peter.

[JPC]

I don't want to overstep. I think Paul could be the rock of your church. I know you've tapped Peter. I know you've tapped Peter. But Paul. Sorry. Paul's giving me the look. I have to say this. Paul is the Paul. You're the best disciple he has. You know it.

[Tony Hale]

Okay, first of all, I'd like to label this gossip, but let's get back to the shack clock. Okay, so who wants to reach into the bag? And what would they pull out?

[Adol]

Sorry, I'm writing all this gossip on a piece of cloth to send a deux moi.

[Tony Hale]

Okay, Deux moi.

[Adol]

How do you say that?

[Aaron Keenan]

Jude is here. I will pull it out.

[Tony Hale]

Great. And. Oh, wow. It's still happening. Oh, man. Still happening.

[JPC]

Whoa, whoa.

[Tony Hale]

Still happening. Could you pass out the sackcloth to everybody? And I would just like to deem that sackcloth is the new money. And who's gonna be using that for apples from now on? And by the way, I would like to rebrand apple from the first apple. So we're gonna make apple a positive fruit.

[JPC]

Wait, wait. Oh, Jesus, look. The Roman soldiers, they're. They're breaking their way through the crowd. They're coming up to you. Oh, Jesus. Jesus of Nazareth, is that you?

[Tony Hale]

Yes, it is. Thank you for coming. What's your name?

[JPC]

My name? My name is Caesar.

[Tony Hale]

Oh, Caesar.

[Adol]

Prefer to have your mind blown. This guy's amazing.

[Tony Hale]

All right.

[JPC]

Yes. That's why we're here.

[Aaron Keenan]

He turns water into wine.

[Tony Hale]

Caesar, do you recognize. You know what? Caesar's here. And give to Caesar what is Caesar's. So Everybody, if you could just give proportion of your sackcloth to Caesar. Let's keep on the rules, okay?

[JPC]

I mean, this is cool.

[Tony Hale]

Yeah.

[Aaron Keenan]

I feel like this is sort of gonna cause a lot of evil in the world. Jesus. And that's sort of the opposite of what your whole, like, branding is.

[Tony Hale]

I know, but I think there is something about, like, you know, let's they the government. Like, he's thinking. Of course I'm thinking of all these parables in my head.

[JPC]

We cut to 300 years later when everyone's writing down the Bible. Does anyone remember? I remember Jesus from what my grandpa's grandpa used to say.

[Adol]

Yeah, yeah.

[JPC]

He was, like, really bad at making a point.

[Adol]

Really bad.

[Tony Hale]

Yeah.

[Adol]

Great advice.

[Tony Hale]

Well, he did speak in a lot of parables. Parables. But they had, like. They did make you think so. I mean, are we storytellers? Many times when people tell stories, they remember more than they do if they just heard, like, a talk.

[Aaron Keenan]

That's true.

[Adol]

Speaking of parables, I got a pair of rope bowls here if we want.

[Aaron Keenan]

Hey, we were in the middle of a riddle. This is the coin one. Yes.

[Adol]

An archaeologist found a coin dated 81 B.C.

[JPC]

Yes.

[Adol]

But knew it was fake.

[Tony Hale]

Oh, shoot. I totally forgot about the riddle.

[Adol]

Now, Tony, the scene we just did is a bit of a hint. Is it the sort of main character in that scene played by you is a big hint.

[Aaron Keenan]

I think I might know what it is, but I'm gonna hold off.

[Tony Hale]

I don't want to hold off.

[JPC]

I don't have any clue here. It won't you give us a hint, Aaron?

[Aaron Keenan]

Yeah, well, I don't know if I can give a hint, but, Tony, I'll.

[Adol]

Give you a similar question. A person going through their grandpa's belongings found a flag that said World War I, a tattered flag that said World War I. He immediately knew it was a fake flag or a fake.

[Tony Hale]

When I described to you how my armpits are sweating right now and how I can't feel my body, we'd say.

[Aaron Keenan]

That happens a lot on this show. We're so, so sorry.

[JPC]

Wait, didn't Tony say before we even did the scene that there couldn't be a bc?

[Aaron Keenan]

I don't.

[Adol]

Oh, did Tony say that?

[Tony Hale]

I did say. Oh, wait. Well, okay, so 80 BC is 80 years before Christ.

[JPC]

Yeah.

[Tony Hale]

My parents black and we are adbc.

[JPC]

Come on. Come on. It wasn't there.

[Aaron Keenan]

Right. And if you wouldn't call it World War I as it was happening. Is your point about the other.

[Tony Hale]

Oh, oh, okay.

[Adol]

So if you found A coin that said 81 BC on it. It would be fake because.

[Tony Hale]

It would be fake because at the time Christ was not born.

[Aaron Keenan]

Yes. You would know that Christ was even coming. They didn't know what Christ was.

[JPC]

At first when you pitched that riddle, I thought it was just dated. I didn't know that there was like a stamp on the coin that said 81 BC. I thought they were just like, this was probably roughly 81 BC. And then I was like, I don't know how you would.

[Tony Hale]

Not so good.

[JPC]

Does it carbon dating not work? I don't know. How do you date the coin?

[Tony Hale]

Good point.

[JPC]

Forgery. Forgery.

[Tony Hale]

Well, this is one big shame game. Thank you for inviting me.

[Aaron Keenan]

A new name for our podcast. One Big Shame Game.

[JPC]

The Big Shame Game.

[Aaron Keenan]

Kind of new branding for us. One Big Shame game.

[Tony Hale]

Rather than RuPaul Snatch Game, it's Shame Game.

[Aaron Keenan]

Tony. I'm just gonna sort of intersperse my nerdy comedy questions I've always wanted to ask. In between these riddles, please, what's your favorite, like, Busterism. What's your favorite Buster line from the show?

[Tony Hale]

My favorite line. Well, I immediately think of my. One of my favorite scenes, even though I'm asthmatic and it was not actually my favorite thing to do, but it's my favorite scenes is when my mother, Lucille Bluth, Jessica Walter, was on house arrest and she couldn't smoke. Smoke. And so Buster had to. She would. She would light a cigarette and inhale and I would. Or she would light a cigarette. I would inhale the smoke out of her mouth and then exhale it on the porch and I would run back in like a baby bird and then inhale the smoke as she exhaled and then exhale it on the porch. It was such a picture of the depth of codependency of Buster Bluth that it just framed him in such a beautiful way.

[Aaron Keenan]

That's perfect.

[Tony Hale]

Incredible.

[Adol]

That is incredible.

[Aaron Keenan]

How do you not die laughing? That is funny.

[Tony Hale]

I did. I just broke the whole time. I broke the whole. She didn't really break. Will made me laugh. Really hard job. It's just like, it was so funny. Like, it was just David Cross. My favorite David Cross line was, oh, what is it? Like Jason asks him something and he goes like, how's it going or something. He goes, good, good. It's going to be good.

[Adol]

That was a good David Cross.

[Tony Hale]

I just love David Cross. Anyways, there's so many. It was really hard to. Hot ham water.

[Aaron Keenan]

The most quoted thing in my house is there's a bird. It Walked on my pillow.

[Tony Hale]

He loves birds.

[Aaron Keenan]

Oh, he loves it.

[JPC]

I love juice.

[Tony Hale]

Love disjis.

[Adol]

Now, Tony on Arrested Development. Correct me if I'm wrong. Was there a Sean that worked on that?

[Aaron Keenan]

Oh, yeah. Sean that maybe wronged you, that you sort of the riddle of your life?

[Tony Hale]

No, we're going back to, like, middle high school. High school. We're going back to tally.

[JPC]

Tallahassee, Shawn. There's always a Tallahassee, Shahn.

[Tony Hale]

Yeah, but, you know, you get older, Sean's got his life, and I've had a shitload of therapy.

[Adol]

Let's do. We're gonna do one more riddle and I'm gon to switch it up just slightly. So this type of riddle I'm going to pose or posit is going to be. I'll call this a trio. I'm going to give you three things. This is similar to the ones JVC did, but not quite so I'm going to give you three things and you have to tell me what they all have in common. The gap, singing in the Rain. The movie. And chromosomes. The Gap, singing in the Rain. And chromosomes.

[Aaron Keenan]

I have no idea.

[Adol]

They all have something in common. They all contain one thing.

[JPC]

Okay.

[Adol]

The gap, singing in the rain. And chromosomes.

[Tony Hale]

Oh, wait, I know. Genes.

[Adol]

Oh, they all have genes. Gene Kelly.

[Tony Hale]

That's the first one I got.

[JPC]

Wow. And the last.

[Tony Hale]

Is that what you were gonna say? Jpc.

[JPC]

No, I had no idea. I was like, still on X and Y and I was like, does the gap have. That has X and Y or. Yeah.

[Aaron Keenan]

Wow. I was never gonna get that one.

[Adol]

Damn good one, Tony.

[Tony Hale]

Thanks, guys. Thanks.

[Adol]

Now can we have like, forky say hey, bitch or something?

[Tony Hale]

Can we have what?

[Adol]

Can we have forky say hey, bitch?

[Aaron Keenan]

Forky would never.

[Adol]

Tony, would you mind just one sentence? Could you say something as forky to my wife Gemma? My wife Gemma loves forky.

[Tony Hale]

Her name is Gemma, right?

[JPC]

Mm. Gemma.

[Tony Hale]

Hey, Gemma, this is Forky from Toy Story. Listen, I'm talking to your husband right now and woo. I got some go. But Gemma, you hang in there.

[Adol]

Bye.

[JPC]

Bye. That's perfect. That's perfect.

[Adol]

Telling my wife to hang in there is so appropriate because living with me is a struggle.

[Aaron Keenan]

That's about to be her outgoing voice.

[JPC]

Honestly, honestly though, she is. She's sick right now. Adel, you just said before we started recording that she's sick right now. So a hang in there message, I feel like, is a. Is a great message to receive.

[Adol]

That's incredible.

[Tony Hale]

Does she have the flu?

[Adol]

We don't know what she actually you.

[Tony Hale]

Don'T need to get into it. I don't even know why I asked her. Never mind. You said to yourself, poor thing. Gemma, feel better.

[Aaron Keenan]

I relate to Forky because I'm also trash. I'm trash.

[Tony Hale]

Do you know what I love about. There's so many things I love about Forky, but he obviously asked so many questions. And do you remember Gabby? Gabby, the little doll in the antique shop? He was very scary, but Forky, since he was new to the world and didn't know anything, he was just like, she's got pretty hair. And went over and just started brushing her hair. And because she was not deemed the evil doll by someone, it enabled her to have kind of a redemptive storyline and she found someone to love her. And it was because someone crossed the line and went over and saw into her world and didn't see her as a bad person. Which one you need to do more in life. That's beautiful.

[JPC]

Wow.

[Tony Hale]

And Forky is j.

[JPC]

Well, hey, Tony, you are the MVP of this podcast because you have one riddle right? Hey, you still win. Tell people about the show, which releases today. Now, this is a little peek behind the curtain. We are actually recording this on April 23, the day the show comes out. Casey is working all night to edit this thing to get it out immediately. I don't know how the math works out.

[Aaron Keenan]

Lie to people. We have no good reason.

[Tony Hale]

We talked about abuses today. This is not the time to lie.

[JPC]

Tell us about the show a little more about the show. And it's so fun.

[Tony Hale]

So, yeah, so, yeah, Kristen Shaw, Matt Oberg, and I. And it's like, just. Just what you mean? It's a joy to do, and I think hopefully it's gonna be a joy to listen to. And it's honestly, like, it's an opportunity for us and me to meet people that are doing things that I have absolutely no idea how you do it. You know, it's. I mean, I. Be honest. I struggle with anxiety. I do not like heights. And we're meeting these people who just do crazy things. I'm like, do you think about death? Do you wake up and you can't wait to do it again? Does it even just things like this just be the opportunity to ask. And we laugh a lot, and it's really fun.

[Adol]

That's incredible. That's a great idea for a podcast.

[Aaron Keenan]

It really is.

[Tony Hale]

A lot of people who've beat Guinness records and all that kind of stuff.

[Adol]

That's so cool.

[Tony Hale]

Yeah, it's cool.

[JPC]

Listen to extraordinarians Extraordinarians.

[Tony Hale]

Extraordinarians. Thank you guys for having me. This was really, really, really fun.

[Aaron Keenan]

This is a real honor for us. We are big nerds for your work.

[Tony Hale]

Oh, please. Same Adel.

[JPC]

Aaron, do we have anything to plug?

[Adol]

I got nothing I want to plug. Tony Hales. Hey, bitch. Rope bowls coming to, I believe, Sedona Farmer's Market.

[JPC]

Yeah, Sedona Farmers Market near you.

[Tony Hale]

The only farmer's market that would accept me of the entire world. We'll take him. Fine. We'll get a tax write off.

[JPC]

Check out the show on Patreon. Patreon.com heyriddle Riddle. It's still April of the Penguins over on Patreon. Penguin baseball all month long. Aaron, Aaron, Aaron, I know that you. I don't want to give too much away, but, you know, you've done some Pixar work. You know, Toy Story's adjacent. Would you like to introduce your new character?

[Tony Hale]

Wait, I'm sorry, we didn't even. I didn't hear about this. What Pixar work have we done here?

[Aaron Keenan]

I did some voices and wrote some bits and bops their new TV show, Win or Lose. That came out a couple months ago.

[Tony Hale]

Yeah, I saw that advertised.

[Aaron Keenan]

Yes, it was so fun. I mean, it was like my. I actually am full of existential dread because it was my dream job and I had no other dreams. So now I'm like, what do I do?

[JPC]

New dreams. New dreams.

[Tony Hale]

Have you, have you been able to go up to the Pixar headquarters?

[Aaron Keenan]

I've been there a couple times. Isn't it like the most magical place in the world? Probably.

[Tony Hale]

It is just so cool if you guys get a chance to go up and. Have you been able, like, the offices each have like a theme and stuff like that.

[Aaron Keenan]

Do you have a favorite one?

[Tony Hale]

One I went to one that was like a jungle theme that was really cool. But there, it's like they get art directors in there to kind of, you know.

[JPC]

That's pretty cool.

[Tony Hale]

Yeah, it's pretty cool.

[Aaron Keenan]

I like the, the crashed plane one a lot. But the witch's cabin one, I don't know if you've been in that one.

[Tony Hale]

I didn't see that one.

[Aaron Keenan]

It is the coolest.

[Tony Hale]

That'll be hard to work in.

[JPC]

Yeah, it's for new hires. It's for new hires. If they can't hack it in the witch's house, they. They bounce out cold.

[Adol]

Darkness keep spinning over and ruining my papers.

[Aaron Keenan]

It is the coolest place in the world.

[Tony Hale]

It is. And the food's good.

[Aaron Keenan]

It's so good. It. I truly. When the first time I went and I was walking around, I was like, did they think I'm like a camera crew? Everyone was so happy and sweet. I would be walking by and they'd be like, I'm working on the lighting for Inside out too. Do you want to see what I'm working on? And I'm like, what the heck is happening?

[JPC]

Happiest in the world.

[Aaron Keenan]

Yeah.

[Tony Hale]

It's awesome. That's cool. Congratulations. That's cool.

[Aaron Keenan]

Thank you so much. Oh, we were trying to end.

[JPC]

What was I?

[Aaron Keenan]

Oh, Jupiter. Yes. That's how we ended the show. I forgot that you were trying. I was like, what were you talking about?

[JPC]

Starring Aaron Keenan and John Patrick Cullinan. Casey Tony did the editing and Marty.

[Tony Hale]

Parented the music.

[JPC]

Logo created by Emily Cardamus and Emily Depora. Hey there. The eggs and the balls. If you like that, you are going to love this week's Patreon. We bring you the championship game in the grand finale of Penguin Baseball League Season two. You can listen to that plus our entire back [e-mail] HeyRiddleriddle by joining the clue crew for $5 a month or start your 7 day free trial trial or the review crew for $8 a month. Plus you get those ad free episodes. See you there.

[Adol]

That was a Hitgum podcast.

[JPC]

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