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Adol Refai
This is a Headgun podcast.
JPC
The doctor was the mother. He stood on a block of ice. Both of them were goldfish. It was the cabin of an airplane. He stabbed him with an ice ray. And the horses ain't Friday. Okay, so the two of you are filing a home insurance claim because. And I'm reading this now. A disaster befell your podcast.
Adol Refai
Yes. A disaster befell our podcast.
Aaron Kiche
Yes. We had. I don't know how to phrase this, a third host. Aaron. Is that what you would say? A third host?
Adol Refai
A demon that was also here. I don't know, is there, like multiple
Aaron Kiche
choice on the paperwork of what Tasmanian Devil type?
Adol Refai
Like if Captain Hook was meaner.
JPC
A living being. Okay, Now, a human. Not a human. Human. Not a human.
Aaron Kiche
Human. Human esque.
Adol Refai
Uncanny valley. You know, like Tom Hanks in What's the movie?
Aaron Kiche
Castaway.
Adol Refai
Castaway, yeah.
JPC
With the beard. Yeah. You're like, this isn't Hanks.
Adol Refai
Yeah, this isn't Hanks.
Aaron Kiche
This is not my Hanks.
Adol Refai
Polar Express. Also just sort of that, like, I
JPC
was like, please don't say Philadelphia. Please don't say Philadelphia. Please don't say Philadelphia. Because then I'd have to report you, obviously.
Adol Refai
No, we're reporting a disaster that befell our podcast.
JPC
Yes. Getting back to it. So on my form, since it is a home insurance claim, if it was a person who was injured, I have to mark that down. If it was property, I have to mark that down. But those are the two boxes that I have to check.
Aaron Kiche
Gotcha. Gotcha. You know how a lot of insurance. I think there's a claim to do, like, act of God. This is like act of the Antichrist. This third host.
Adol Refai
Yeah. You know how, like, God makes tornadoes? The Devil made Whatever this is.
JPC
Okay, great. Well, we can put. Act of God is kind of a metaphor. It's like a catch all, you know, because it's like, we're not. The insurance industry is not claiming that there is a God, you know, but the idea that there are certain acts that could be attributable both of God, you know, that's because if you were
Aaron Kiche
claiming there's a God, then isn't everything an act of God? Big crash of thunder in my end here.
Adol Refai
Wow. Okay, so we're just kidding about that. God. So is where Sawee.
JPC
Is it still. Is it still going on? I guess because you said an act of God befell. Is this. Is it still continuing?
Adol Refai
Well, no, this I feel like you'll understand because insurance definitely believes in the devil, right? Because that's who you serve yes.
JPC
Yes.
Sandy
Correct.
Aaron Kiche
That's why State Farm's colors are red.
JPC
Well, like, you know, my boss's name is Terry. You know, his boss's boss's boss's boss's boss. That's the devil. But I don't know. I mean, if you're. Yeah. If you're upset. I can't get to the devil. I have no way to give.
Aaron Kiche
I can get to the devil. Terry Torrey. Purgatory. Hell.
Adol Refai
Kevin Bacon. Devil.
JPC
Yeah, I think you have to put Kevin Bacon in there. So you have to say, Terry, Terry. No further. Invisible Man. Man, I'd love a cigarette. Cigarettes are bad. Bad. The devil.
Adol Refai
We're seeking $100,000 for the damages that befell our beloved podcast. Podcast. Hey, Riddle.
Sandy
Riddle.
JPC
Yes.
Adol Refai
And so whatever we have to fill out on the paperwork to receive the damages.
JPC
Oh, why didn't you just say that? If all you want is whatever you have to do to get the money, then we could just tears up all of these documents we've been working on.
Adol Refai
Great.
JPC
You just cut me in on. Let's just say 1% of that. No more.
Aaron Kiche
Yeah, 1%.
Adol Refai
I'll give you all of JP's I'll give you all of JPC's tanks.
JPC
Okay, what are we talking? Abrams? What are we talking? Just one more tank. Pull one more fish tank.
Adol Refai
Final offer.
JPC
Well, that's. Final offer. Final offer. Accepted. You know what else? I accept. I accept that I'm here doing an episode of hey Roto Riddle. I'm jpc.
Adol Refai
I'm Adol Refai, and I'm the human one here. Actually, it probably goes. ADOL is the most human. And then I'm sort of that in between. And then it's jpc. It's like the Animorphs.
JPC
Animorphs. It's like the animorphs.
Aaron Kiche
And what's JPC's final form?
JPC
Oh, I am. My final form is midpoint between me turning into a duck. So it's like. It's a half duck creature with, like,
Aaron Kiche
you know, with a bill on the back of its head.
JPC
Now, Aaron, it looks like it's nice and sunny there where you are in Los Angeles, but as we started recording where Adel and I are in Chicago, a nice summer storm just started rolling in and. Oh, I gotta say, I fucking. I love a summer storm when it's like 75 degrees outside and it's still. And, you know, there's some thunder in the background and it's raining. It's the best.
Adol Refai
Now that your dads are you gonna go stand out on your lawns and go, we needed this. The grass is gonna be really happy. We needed this.
JPC
Yeah.
Sandy
It's like both.
Aaron Kiche
Both hands sort of on the small of my back.
Adol Refai
Yep.
Aaron Kiche
As I'm like kind of lifting up on my toes, going, belt, shorts, this.
JPC
I told you, I can't. I can't find a person, like, to cut my grass. Like, it's just. I have to do it myself. And it's fine. I just don't like doing it, but I do it now.
Adol Refai
Someone to mow your lawn. Cutting grass, that takes forever way too.
JPC
Oh, yeah, you're right. Mowing a lawn with a lawnmower would be much more effective. But, you know, if you want something done right, do it yourself. But I did just reseed a big portion of my lawn because I'm like, I hate. I hate doing yard work. But it just needed it. There was like, I had a drain pipe digged in, dug out when I moved in, like five years ago. And I still. There was still like gravel in the front yard. And I was like, this just needs to be dirt and grass. Like, it can't just be. It can't be gravel forever. So I did some reseeding. So this morning when it started raining, I did legit be like, well, now I don't have to go out and fucking water that grass seed. We did need this. This is. God is saving me a ch. A task right now that I don't enjoy doing.
Adol Refai
If you ever need to rob a dad, just start talking about a lawn and the sleeper cell thing in their brain will wake up and they'll start talking about what they're doing when they have to go get mulch.
JPC
Taking care of a yard is one of my least favorite things in the entire fucking world. And I did. There were a couple years when, especially when my baby was just born that I was like, I'm not dealing with this. And I paid someone else to deal with it. And that was really nice. But then when one of them stops working and finding another one is just another hassle that I'm just doing it myself now. And I'm like, I don't like it. I don't like outside. I don't like. I don't like coming in and having to wash the dirt out of under my fingernails while I was wearing gloves the whole time. I'm like, what are the gloves doing if the dirt is still getting under the fingernails when the gloves are on?
Aaron Kiche
Home ownership is the modern day Sisyphus. The amount of tasks you just have to keep on top of every week, every month. It's awful. Sucks.
Adol Refai
Jpc. You're a little soft boy prince with soft hands who likes to stay inside.
JPC
I'm an inside kid for sure. I like to camp. I like to go experience nature. But there's something about the divide. If I'm outdoors and there's no facilities or whatever and I'm just in it, great. I'm gritty. I'm into it. But when I'm outdoors and I'm like, yeah, but my shower's right there. Now I have to go take a shower, because it is right there.
Aaron Kiche
You said something. And I do have to. I'm so sorry. My brain just is screaming for me to say it aloud. I do want to see someone make an Animorphs cover, which is you turning into gritty. The Philadelphia Flyers. I want to say.
Adol Refai
That's just going to be so confusing. It's just going to look like the same image over and over and over again. That will be confusing.
JPC
If people are not familiar with the Animorphs. It's like a. Some of them were, like, reflective, so you could turn the book and see it, but it's like a six. Kind of like the evolution picture of, like, monkey becoming man.
Aaron Kiche
Oh, I thought you were rating the kids. You're like six turning into a grasshopper.
JPC
Tobias is a 10 because he's a bird, but. But that. It's like that image and mine turning into gritty would just be like me, and then the midpoint would be like me going down on myself, and then it would be gritty.
Adol Refai
When you said what Animorph is, I was like, isn't that a Maroon 5 song? But I'm thinking of animals, but my brain just went like Animorphs. Like Animorphs. What year do you think that song came out?
JPC
Aaron, I need to hook you up with a review crew from, like, two and a half months ago, because that would be perfect fodder.
Adol Refai
Oh, I know. Damn.
Aaron Kiche
And my brain went straight to Ben Folds Rock in the suburbs with and so. Animorphs. Animorphs.
Adol Refai
That's perfect.
JPC
Not for long. The classic Muppet. Animorphs, which is my favorite Muppet.
Aaron Kiche
Oh, yeah.
Adol Refai
What year do you think Animals by Maroon 5 came out?
JPC
I want to say 2012.
Aaron Kiche
I'm going to say 2014.
Adol Refai
Yep. 2014. How did you know that?
JPC
Okay, 2014.
Aaron Kiche
Big swing. Swing. And a hit.
Adol Refai
I'm scared.
JPC
Big Maroon 5 fan. Secret Maroon 5 fan unlocked.
Adol Refai
So this is a riddle Puzzle Lateral thinking podcast. We're nine episodes away from our big 420 episode that we haven't discussed yet, but I assume will be huge.
JPC
We all assume it's gonna be huge. The big four 20 episode.
Adol Refai
The big 420.
JPC
Well, it is a riddles podcast, and we actually don't have a lot of time to fuck around today because we have Sandy coming on a little later, and we basically fuck around all the time with Sandy. So we gotta be serious about riddles when we start. Would you guys like to start with some warmup hurdles or should I just throw you right into the deep end?
Adol Refai
Warmup.
Aaron Kiche
I think some warmups.
Adol Refai
My head needs some warmups.
JPC
Okay, great. As always with warmups, we may have done something similar to these before, but here are your first warmup hurdles. These warmups are from Jonathan Sanders, and Jonathan did give me permission to use their name. Susie went to the store and bought six eggs. Throughout the day, she broke two eggs, fried two eggs, and then ate two eggs. Later that evening, she baked a quiche, a dish that relies heavily on eggs. How is this possible?
Aaron Kiche
Well, it said she fried two eggs. And what was the first one?
JPC
Broke two eggs, fried two eggs, and ate two eggs.
Aaron Kiche
Those are just the two eggs. So she had four left. If you break two eggs, you're putting them in a pan. If you fry them, those are still the ones you broke. And if you eat them, they're the ones you broke and fried.
JPC
Yeah, you are correct.
Adol Refai
Exactly.
JPC
You are correct. She had six eggs and she used four for a quiche. Is four low for a quiche?
Adol Refai
Yeah, that. Is that a mini quiche?
JPC
It's gotta be a mini quiche.
Adol Refai
Also, did she have two fried eggs when she was having quiche later? What the hell is wrong with her?
JPC
Maybe she's baking the quiche for tomorrow. Because sometimes, like, you want to set a quiche overnight, right? Like, it's. It's. To me, a quiche is like a brunch item, not like a dinner item.
Aaron Kiche
I do want to see a scene.
JPC
Yeah.
Adol Refai
Okay.
Aaron Kiche
Aaron, you are. You're walking into a coffee shop and you're asking someone if you can sit down at the table next to them. Jpc, you're this other person and you just happen to be. And this is. I know. This is so weird and random. You just happen to be Aaron Kiche.
JPC
Got it.
Aaron Kiche
Is this fun?
JPC
Yeah.
Adol Refai
I love how you said that. Like, it's out of your hands, like you're relaying news to us.
Aaron Kiche
I was channeling the inspiration.
JPC
Another big thunder as Adel said, Aaron Kiche. God. Not too happy about that.
Adol Refai
Hi. Sorry to bother you. Are you using this chair in this outlet? Oh, my God.
JPC
Oh, no, I'm not at all. Please, by all means, help yourself to it.
Adol Refai
Oh, my God.
JPC
Oh, yes, I am sorry.
Adol Refai
You're like a. I know.
JPC
You have the look in your eyes and. Yes. But if we just, you know, be. You know. Because it's no one else in here.
Adol Refai
No, it's me.
JPC
It's me.
Adol Refai
I'm Aaron Keefe. And you're, like, a spitting image of me.
JPC
Oh, okay. Yeah. Who do I make it up to? You said your name was Maren.
Adol Refai
No, no, no. I don't want an autograph. This is sort of a It Takes Two situation. Mary Kate and Ashley, they meet their exact doppelganger.
JPC
I'm in the middle of an audiobook right now. I don't know if you saw the headphones in. So it's like, if I don't finish the chapter, I'm. I kind of get, like.
Adol Refai
Right. But this is a miracle. We're basically the same person. But you're made of eggs.
JPC
Oh, okay.
Adol Refai
Am I this much of a dick?
JPC
What's it gonna take to do. What do I need to do if. Do you want me to record, like, a video for your friends?
Adol Refai
No, no. Shouldn't we switch places and try to, like, get a couple together or do, like, doppelganger hijinks? This is a huge deal.
JPC
My husband is actually in the bathroom, and he's going to be here soon. I'm not.
Adol Refai
Aaron is married, and regular Aaron isn't a husband, and I don't even have a husband.
JPC
I'm. I'm. I'm not. I'm not alone right now. So it's like. Don't make a scene.
Adol Refai
I'm not making a scene. That's a really nice coat. How do you afford that coat?
Aaron Kiche
My ears are burning. Hi. Nice to meet you. My name is Mark Marinkish.
JPC
Wow.
Adol Refai
Oh, my God. You took the egg's last name. Hi. How do you do? Can you believe how much I look like your wife?
JPC
I took his last name.
Aaron Kiche
Yeah.
JPC
Why did you assume his last name is Maren Kish?
Aaron Kiche
Just because you met my wife first doesn't mean.
Adol Refai
Why do I look exactly like this egg woman?
Aaron Kiche
See, I am the egg woman. Cuckoo kachu.
JPC
Okay, here's another warmup. Bertl. This is a warmup from Katie. Katie asks, what can you find in December that you can't find in any other month?
Aaron Kiche
Christmas.
JPC
A d. Christmas. And A D would be, I guess, what, Christmas in July.
Aaron Kiche
Two gifts.
JPC
That is correct. And then the second warmup is alone. This as fragile as tissue.
Adol Refai
Wait, hold on, hold on, hold on. I'm so sorry. You're moving so fast. I would like to see a scene.
JPC
Oh, okay. And these are just the warmups.
Adol Refai
I know, but we've called scenes just from bullshit at the beginning of an episode. You can call a scene on a warm up riddle. It holds.
JPC
You can? For sure. You're able to.
Adol Refai
Well then, great. I'm going to do it.
Aaron Kiche
Watch big sign in the back of Aaron's house that says we do call the scenes.
Adol Refai
Okay, here I go. Calling for a scene. JPC and adol. You guys are a couple. Adol, you have brought JPC home to meet your family for the first time over Christmas.
JPC
And.
Adol Refai
And everyone's exchanging gifts and jpc. You don't want to exchange your gift in front of everybody because your gift to adult is sex. But you have to give it. You have to tell him what a gift is for the whole family. Okay, who's next? Thank you guys so much for this. I needed a laptop so bad, by the way. I appreciate it.
Aaron Kiche
Yeah, and that's an Acer. And I'm told that they're really good. Margaret, for sort of what you do.
Adol Refai
Thank you so much. You're such a good brother. Who. Who wants to go next?
JPC
I can go. But just to say that I. Ravi, Ravi, Ravi, Ravi.
Adol Refai
We're so happy to have you here with the family.
JPC
I'm so happy to be here. It's my first time. I've totally misunderstood. I did not. I didn't actually.
Adol Refai
Oh, no, you're gonna be great, Robbie. You're gonna be great.
JPC
I know. No, I know that this is a
Adol Refai
hard holiday to come into, generally. And then also we obviously had a couple deaths in the family this year. But you love our brother so much and we're so grateful that you're here and we just cannot wait to see what you got him.
JPC
And I didn't get a gift is what I'm saying. So I brought no gift. Yes. So I will have to graciously, because again, I just didn't understand that we were. That it was gifts for everybody. Like this.
Aaron Kiche
Robbie, you have a big bow around your waist.
Sandy
What are you talking about?
Aaron Kiche
I didn't get a gift?
Adol Refai
Yeah, you said you had a big surprise.
Aaron Kiche
Is it under your robe?
JPC
So I put it.
Aaron Kiche
And you have a big box on your lap.
JPC
Put a bow around my waist to come to my boyfriend's. Family's Christmas and I didn't think it would come up. Uh huh.
Adol Refai
Is it a car? Is it a ring? Are you proposing?
JPC
No, it's not a ring. It is a. It is a bow on my waist belt. It is a belt. This is a used belt.
Adol Refai
He's a prankster. You told us he was a prankster, and he is.
JPC
It's actually Robbie.
Adol Refai
Robbie, Robbie, Robbie, Robbie.
JPC
I know that you're such a big fan of Kill Bill. This is David Carradine's belt.
Adol Refai
Are you calling an Uber right now?
JPC
No, I am.
Adol Refai
I can see you on your phone. You're calling an Uber.
JPC
I'm making sure no Ubers show up. Because sometimes Ubers just come.
Adol Refai
Only if you schedule them. Now you're checking it against the price of Lyft. What's going on?
JPC
So you can see just my whole phone, huh?
Adol Refai
Yeah. I'm standing right behind you and I'm looking.
Aaron Kiche
You're also casting it to the tv.
JPC
I am casting it to the tv, yes. That is what I am doing.
Adol Refai
Oh, the gifts on the phone. Are you surprising him with a trip or something?
Aaron Kiche
Oh, there's gonna be, like, a picture of, like, French Polynesia.
JPC
Let's all stop guessing gifts. Cause that's right. That never ends up in a good place. Would we guess the gift that we would have received?
Adol Refai
I guessed that I was gonna get a laptop, and then I did that.
JPC
I mean, that's your brother, though. You've known each other for, like, 31 years, so it's like.
Adol Refai
No one knows him better than you, though. You guys are so in love.
Aaron Kiche
Speaking of guests, we. I guess we should throw the gifts that we had for Grandma and Uncle Charles in the fireplace because obviously they're not here with us.
Adol Refai
You're right. Symbolically.
Aaron Kiche
Symbolically. We should send them up the chimney.
Adol Refai
Don't catch me.
JPC
I've wanted to break up for four months. How do you break up with someone when every two months someone important to them dies? With who? Megan, you are stupid.
Adol Refai
I am. I just tried throwing this gift into the fire and you caught it.
JPC
You are stupid and rude.
Adol Refai
You're stupid and rude.
Aaron Kiche
Oh, my God, I wish we had not watched Meet the Fockers. I feel like this is. It's playing out exactly like that movie, right?
Adol Refai
Give him the gift.
JPC
How are we going to meet the Focker in law if we don't watch
Adol Refai
Meet the Fockers White Elephant? We get to steal any gift. So you give our brother your gift, and then if anyone wants to steal the Gift that you gave him. They can. That's the new rule, white elf.
JPC
You know what I was going to give Megan? You know what I was going to give your brother?
Adol Refai
What?
JPC
I was going to give him a blowjob. Hell yeah, I was going to give him a blow. Yeah. Hell yeah, it would have been great. I'll steal. No, Grandpa.
Adol Refai
Grandma's still warm in the ground.
Aaron Kiche
I'm still.
JPC
That's big. Like, I'll have what she's having.
Adol Refai
Can he stay forever?
Aaron Kiche
In coming to America, where Eddie Murphy gives those earrings and she's like, I can't accept them. Cause they're like $500,000 earrings. And then she gets off the train and then the old lady stands up, she goes, I'll marry you.
JPC
Okay, here's your second warmup. It's again still from Katie.
Adol Refai
And I can call a scene about this one too, if I want.
JPC
If you want to. If you choose to. Alone, it is as fragile as a tissue. Together, it can crush a small town. What am I,
Aaron Kiche
Godzilla? Godzillae Breath.
JPC
Oh, yeah. Because emotionally Godzilla's fragile tissue.
Aaron Kiche
Water.
Sandy
Alone.
JPC
Hold on. You trying to. Stubborn. Captain Planet with the five Earth, Wind, Fire, Water, and Godzilla.
Aaron Kiche
And Monkey. What was the monkey guy?
JPC
Heart.
Aaron Kiche
Heart, yes.
JPC
And honestly, there was no heart. They just wanted to hang out with the monkey, and he's the one that had it.
Aaron Kiche
I feel like Friends stole. I feel like Friends was like, we need a group of friends. Kind of like Captain Planet has, like, a group. And they're like, also, Captain Planet has a monkey. So maybe Rash should have a monkey.
JPC
And people don't talk about this a lot, but Earth had the Rachel.
Adol Refai
Somebody draw it. I'm dying to see it. That would unite the world if we just decided to give Earth the Rachel.
JPC
It's telling that we don't know what any of their names are. I can't say.
Aaron Kiche
His name is like, Matit or whatever Mati was.
JPC
Mati was heart. Right? Yeah.
Aaron Kiche
And then the rest boy got into
JPC
my head, who knows? Alone, it is fragile as a tissue. Together it can crush a small town. What am I?
Aaron Kiche
Hmm. Okay. Is this like a letter of the Alphabet?
JPC
No, it's not a letter of the Alphabet.
Adol Refai
So the plural of this thing is the destructive thing?
JPC
Yeah, basically. Basically, yeah. One is very fragile, and a bunch of them could crush a small town. I mean, they could do more than that too. They could fuck up a big city as well.
Aaron Kiche
Is it some sort of monster?
JPC
It's not a monster, no. I would say it's very naturally occurring.
Aaron Kiche
Okay. Much like tornado. Tornado, Wind, Hurricane.
Adol Refai
Hurricane.
JPC
You're thinking mudslide.
Adol Refai
Mudslides.
JPC
Way too large scale, Aaron.
Adol Refai
Okay, rain.
JPC
Rain is close. Rain is close.
Adol Refai
Oh, sneeze clouds.
JPC
It's not clouds. It's not sneeze.
Aaron Kiche
Rain is close.
Adol Refai
Snow. Snowflake. Snowflake, Snowflake.
JPC
Yeah, Snowflake and snow. Exactly. You got it.
Aaron Kiche
Wow, good one.
JPC
That's a pretty good one. Maybe we haven't had that one before. I like that. And then. Oh, yeah, I want to do.
Adol Refai
I want to see a scene.
JPC
No, I got to do one final warm up riddle because this is.
Adol Refai
I can't even see scenes anymore.
Aaron Kiche
Hey, gpz, can I talk to you for a second?
JPC
Let's see it. Let's see it. Let's hear a scene.
Aaron Kiche
Can I talk to you for a second?
JPC
Yeah. What's up?
Aaron Kiche
I feel like Aaron wants to see a scene. I feel like you're really kind of policing her.
JPC
Sandy Adol. Did you ask Dying for us taking a second.
Aaron Kiche
Sweetie, give me a second.
Adol Refai
Did you ask him?
Aaron Kiche
Okay, yeah, give me a second. Get back in the car, please.
Adol Refai
Okay.
Aaron Kiche
Also, I feel like I don't. Can you. Can you just let her have a scene, please? Can you just let her have one scene?
JPC
Are you calling an Uber?
Aaron Kiche
No.
JPC
Are you calling while you're asking my fucking. She's in the car.
Aaron Kiche
Call your seat, please.
Adol Refai
I don't even want to see it anymore. I lost the momentum for it.
JPC
Yeah. Once the moment.
Adol Refai
Can I tell you what it would have been? And then. Yeah.
Aaron Kiche
Yes.
Adol Refai
And then everyone can grieve that we never got to see it. I was going to say JBC year. Snowflake Adol. You're on a date with him and JBC is sort of bragging about how unique and different he is, but we're not going to see that scene.
JPC
Yeah, it would have been funny. That would have been really good. I like that scene.
Adol Refai
Maybe in a couple years.
JPC
I want one more warmup riddle. And. And I'm introducing a dangerous precedent in the show. And I just want to tell people if you submit riddles to the show, this is a one off. This is not something that I'm going to be entertaining in the future. TJ from Columbus sent us a riddle that is not a riddle, but they kind of reworked it into a riddle. So I'll give it to you.
Aaron Kiche
Okay.
JPC
And then I'll give you the answer probably. And then you could be like, well, this isn't a riddle, but it's kind of. It's kind of been reworked. So here we go TJ from Columbus. Thank you for sending this in. There once was a land filled with animals. The animals were just like humans are on Earth. They have jobs, they go to work, they drive around. Except for Nate the snake. Nate the snake was the nicest animal of all. He always lent a helping hand and offered up all of his earnings. To help out those less fortunate. Everyone loved Nate. In the middle of Nate's town, though, there was a lever. And if you pulled the lever, the world would end. So no one ever pulled the lever. But one day, a delivery driver, who knew how great Nate was. Came rushing in and was driving for the center of town. When he realized his brakes were out. Directly in front of him was the lever. He could swerve and hit Nate with his truck. Or he could hit the lever and end the world. What did the delivery driver do and why? Kind of like a trolley problem, except with Nate the snake and a lever in the middle of town.
Adol Refai
Is this just the plot of Zootopia 2?
JPC
This is kind of that.
Aaron Kiche
The reading of that immediately made me. It made me think so much of Dennis Hopper's thing on gorilla's demon days. Fire coming out of a monkey's head.
JPC
Oh, yeah.
Aaron Kiche
Where it's like burnt. Burnt. He's like, one day the people went to the monkey. And the monkey met that whole little spiel.
JPC
God, Hopper was great, wasn't he? Hopper was great. I watched not too recently, but within the last couple of years. I watched Speed again. Hopper is so fucking good in speed.
Aaron Kiche
I thought you were talking about the movie. Hoppers was great.
JPC
I watched Hoppers on Speed and I was like, I know I'm on methamphetamines right now, but this movie is fucking good.
Aaron Kiche
Vanessa Bayer is a great white shark. Yes. What did the lever do? Do? Was that the question?
Adol Refai
The driver.
JPC
What did the delivery driver do and why.
Aaron Kiche
What did the delivery driver do and why he.
Adol Refai
This is a trick question.
JPC
It's not a trick question. It's not even a riddle.
Aaron Kiche
So, yeah. I'm confounded by the fact that you said you won't entertain this type of riddle again.
JPC
Well, I won't entertain things that are not riddles. Even if they're being presented as riddles.
Aaron Kiche
Yeah. So it was. What does a delivery driver do?
JPC
Who does he hit? Does he hit Nate or does he hit the lever?
Adol Refai
Oh, neither.
JPC
It's not neither. He definitely hits one of them.
Aaron Kiche
It's like the trolley problem.
Adol Refai
It's not.
JPC
It's kind of the trolley problem. It's not neither. And it's not both. So do you have a guess of a binary choice? Which one?
Adol Refai
He hits the snake.
Aaron Kiche
The lever.
JPC
He hits the snake. He hits Nate. But do we. Do we know why?
Aaron Kiche
No.
JPC
Okay, well, I'll just.
Adol Refai
Because he wanted to. Because he was gone.
JPC
The driver hit Nate. Of course. Because better Nate than lever.
Aaron Kiche
Okay, so I need to step away from my computer for one second.
Adol Refai
I love the fucking scene idea.
Aaron Kiche
I need to pull a Adam driver and marriage story and put a hole in my wall.
Adol Refai
I need to pull an Adam Driver in marriage story and cheat on my wife and then yell at her.
Aaron Kiche
I need to pull a Adam Driver in marriage story and walk out of a interview with Terry Gross on Fresh Air.
JPC
Did you guys see that Adam driver? Apparently in Lena Dunham's new book, she accused him of aggressive behavior on set of Girls. And did you see that? He was asked about it and he was like, I have no comment about that. It's all gonna be in my book.
Aaron Kiche
Cool.
Adol Refai
Adam.
JPC
What? Who knows if he was joking? I'm assuming he was joking about the book. But also, it's just like, a. Just having, like, dirty laundry aired in, like, public is so funny to me. Like, it's just. This is, like. It's like, cartoonish, an actor's existence. Because a. There's the kind of actor who takes himself so seriously that he's like, oh, I'm playing a dick on the show. I gotta be a dick in real life. I'm like, that's. You know, it's all pretend. You don't have to do that. But then also just to be like, can you imagine if someone wrote something about you in a book and then you had to respond to that? You're like, oh, man, what is this life that I live? Like, yes, better Nate than lever. Again, not really a riddle, but what do you call one of those things, like a story with, like, a word joke at the end?
Adol Refai
Is that just a slap in the face? A sign of disrespect is what I call it.
Aaron Kiche
Listen, do I wish I had thought of it? Yeah.
JPC
Yeah.
Aaron Kiche
But do I enjoy it when it's posed at me? No.
JPC
I do want to see. Well, let's put that to the test. Let's put that to the test. Yes. I want to see a scene. Aaron, Here's a scene. So you are going to be telling adol one of these long, like, complicated story jokes that have, like, a lot of setup, but you. You do all the setup, but then you. You forget what the punchline of the story joke Is. And so you have to just try to, like, force whatever you. You have to force it.
Adol Refai
Great.
Aaron Kiche
So, Debbie, is it this exit or the next one?
Adol Refai
Hold on. It was right in the middle of the.
Aaron Kiche
Can you navigate, please? Debbie? Can you navigate?
Adol Refai
Yes. Okay, so. And you're going to love this. You're going to die over this. Okay. There's this woman, and her name is Susie, and she loves walking up the stairs, but not down. Okay?
Aaron Kiche
Okay.
Adol Refai
She moves in with her boyfriend. His name is Kevin, and he can only walk down the stairs.
JPC
Fuck.
Aaron Kiche
I think that. I think 83C was the exit.
Adol Refai
Neither of them can slide down a fire pole. Neither of them know how to ride the elevator or want to.
Aaron Kiche
Can I take. All right, I'm gonna take this shit. Am I good to merge? Am I good? Debbie? Am I good?
Adol Refai
So when they move. Moved in together, what kind of house did they choose to live in?
Aaron Kiche
Debbie. Oh, we're going to a tailspin.
Adol Refai
You just answer the question.
Aaron Kiche
I'm sorry. What? Sorry.
Sandy
What was it?
Adol Refai
Oh, shoot.
Aaron Kiche
Are you okay? We flipped upside down. Are you okay? I'm gonna cut my seat belt. And then I'm.
Adol Refai
I hit my head, and so I don't remember the answer to the.
Aaron Kiche
No, no. I want to hear the. Finish your thing. I feel like we need some levity.
Adol Refai
Who am I?
Aaron Kiche
Come on.
Adol Refai
Huh? Whoa. What. What am. What am. What am. What am I? Whoa.
Aaron Kiche
Debbie.
JPC
Oh, my God. Is everybody okay?
Aaron Kiche
Yeah.
JPC
Is everybody okay in here?
Aaron Kiche
A real gentle. We got. We were in a tailspin, and then.
JPC
I know. I saw.
Aaron Kiche
Very gentle tip. Yeah.
Adol Refai
I don't know who I am. Whoa. What are you.
JPC
I. I was driving behind you. You actually had your windows down, and I heard. I heard your name is Debbie and you were telling a story. It's like a. One of those, like, joke stories where Kevin liked to ride up the elevator and Susie only liked to take the stairs, and then. So does that. You're not hooked up to an EKG or anything. You're just scene. You're a person.
Adol Refai
I'm going to start doing that when men try to talk to me. And bump up your own flatline.
Aaron Kiche
Yeah, you should walk around with an EKG machine and turn it on if you get bored of a conversation.
JPC
Bam. If I could see your ticket, I could help guide you to your seat. Oh, Okay. I guess you've died.
Adol Refai
Last night, I was talking to Riley about how I want. I'm going to invent this technology, and then you guys can invest in the company. Are you ready?
JPC
Okay. Yeah.
Adol Refai
It's a mood ring. It's like one of those health rings that you wear. But, okay, so it's something. It's like an aura ring. And it's collecting sort of your mood. It knows when you're sweating. It knows when you get excited. It knows when you get scared.
Aaron Kiche
I know what I'm sweating.
Adol Refai
And then the lights.
JPC
Not always. Sometimes I stand up and go, holy shit. Did someone pour a glass of water
Adol Refai
down my back in your house. Are connected to that ring. Okay, so when. So, like, people always know how you're feeling. And then a couple, when they're having a fight, they can go like, okay, it looks. I know how you're feeling because.
Aaron Kiche
Looks like a strobe light.
JPC
Yeah, got it. So lights in my house are on and off, but. So you're positing that we have lights that have, like, what, Like a variety of colors?
Adol Refai
Colors. Dimmer dimmies and all that stuff. They can like, sort of flash.
JPC
Flashing.
Adol Refai
It's like a light show.
JPC
Yeah. My only fear, Aaron, is what is the emotion? I love it. What is the emotion that you feel when the lights are flashing? What is that emotion?
Adol Refai
Like panic.
JPC
Is that like panic? Okay. Cause here's the thing. If it's panic and the lights are flashing, I feel like I'm entering into a panic loop here.
Adol Refai
Or dancing or. Were you having fun dancing?
JPC
Oh, my God. Johnny, are you okay? Is everything okay? I'm just having fun dancing.
Adol Refai
No, I'm stressed and I'm dancing.
Aaron Kiche
Was that your EKG machine?
Adol Refai
Yeah, I feel like that'd be pretty cool.
Aaron Kiche
Yeah, that is very cool.
JPC
I like that. I do, like, piece of technology.
Aaron Kiche
I love that idea. And I also love JPC's idea of a opposite setting, which is the light fixtures will counterbalance your mood. So if you're stressed, they'll go to, like, a soft blue, softer.
Adol Refai
Oh, that's actually smarter than my idea.
Aaron Kiche
No, I think it's complimentary, but, yeah,
Adol Refai
that can be another setting on my light idea. But then if you.
Aaron Kiche
I was. Oops, you got peanut butter in my chocolating.
Adol Refai
Your ideas versus fantastic rear window situation where you can tell how all your neighbors feel. And if someone's house is just like this dark blue for so long and you're like, oh, I'm so sad that they're so depressed. And all of a sudden you see a light come on, you're like, oh, my God. Good for them.
JPC
And what about the same thing? It's like an OURA ring, but it's a collar for a dog, but it Also has a little speaker built into it. So depending on what your dog is feeling, like, you know, their heart rate
Adol Refai
and all that stuff you're inventing up
JPC
again, it tells you the dog's move. So you could. Like you're walking around your apartment and it's like, dog is horny. Dog is horny.
Aaron Kiche
That's. That's a direct line from up.
Adol Refai
I look over. You're wearing the collar.
JPC
I don't know, man.
Adol Refai
I don't know.
JPC
You gotta try it out for a second. This is really, really sensitive, huh? You must have the dowels turned way up.
Adol Refai
Dog is the sad kind of horny.
JPC
Have you ever had that painting? How long have you had that painting? Because that's a. Is that a new painting? Nude painting. Nude painting. Nude painting. Hey, speaking of nude paintings, we're gonna take a little break and then we're probably gonna be back with kind of the embodiment of a nude painting, our friend Sandy.
Adol Refai
Uh.
JPC
Oh, yeah. I don't know why I said it that way.
Aaron Kiche
Sandy, go ahead and disrobe in class. Go ahead.
Adol Refai
This sweater's so hot. Why am I wearing a sweater during the summer? Yeah.
Aaron Kiche
Aaron pulls down sunglasses. Aaron, baby, get with the times. It's all right.
Adol Refai
Cool vibe.
Aaron Kiche
It's summer.
Adol Refai
Ish.
Aaron Kiche
Perhaps. And you have to go to Quint's to get some lightweight, breathable quints. Wearables.
Adol Refai
Oh, that sounds so nice. I love quints. Yeah.
JPC
Everything at Quint's is priced 50 to 80% less than similar brands. And they work directly with ethical factories and cut out the middlemen. So you're paying for quality, not brand markup.
Adol Refai
Erin, Quint's goes way beyond clothing. They have custom upholstered sofas, ceramic cookware, premium bedding. It's the kind of brand you end up recommending to everyone for everything. I'm moving this summer and I have so many things favorited from Quint's. I want curtains from there. I want some of their kitchen stuff. Their rugs are unbelievable and priced so fairly. And I'm so excited that quints exist. Perfect timing, Quince. Thank you.
Aaron Kiche
Gemma got a 100% European linen fit and flare midi dress from Quint that she is obsessed with. Looks great on her. And they also have stuff for babies. So we've put little crumpet in some beautiful, adorable, little breathable summertime cotton onesies.
Adol Refai
Oh, cute.
JPC
You gotta elevate your summer wardrobe. Go to quinte.com riddle for free shipping on your order and 365 day returns. Now available in Canada. That's quince.com q u I n c e.com riddle for free shipping and 365 day returns.
Aaron Kiche
Quince.com riddle Aaron, I'm grilling up some pants.
Adol Refai
Yum. Wait, what?
Aaron Kiche
Summer baby.
Adol Refai
And this is Lou wearing a funny top hat. And here's a picture of Lou and she's just laying in the sun. She's so cute. And here's Lou. Look how gray her snoot is getting. She's just so precious. I'm so obsessed with my dog.
JPC
Aaron. Aaron, you said you had something really important to talk to us about, and this is that.
Adol Refai
Oh, yes. Yes. 91% of dog parents say their pup is an important member of the family. And 40% would even save their dog over a human stranger. Safe to say people are obsessed, and I'm one of them. And that's why I give my dog Ollie. Ollie's fresh recipes are developed by real chefs and backed by vet nutritionists. They're obsessed with making the best meals with the highest quality ingredients. Yeah.
JPC
Plus, from the moment you start your subscription to Ollie, everything is tailored to your pup. The meals are perfectly portioned, and you get a puptainer and scoop for easy storing and serving. My dog Spaghetti absolutely loves Ollie food. Around four o' clock every day, she starts snapping at me because it's like. I'm like, yeah, it's kind of almost dinner time. But she is so excited for dinner time since we switched to Ollie.
Aaron Kiche
Oh, look, Lou's getting near the microphone. What is it, Louis? Ollie. Ollie. Now.
Adol Refai
That's not her voice. I'm obsessed with her. I can tell you what her voice is. This is her voice. With Ollie, you don't just get food through their app. You can actually check on your dog's health with real vets just by uploading a picture. Their team can check up on your dog's weight, digestion, teeth and coat because they're obsessed with making sure your pup is as healthy as can be. And that's me, Lou, and this is my voice.
Aaron Kiche
Get ready for both you and your pup to be obsessed. Head to ollie.com riddle Tell them all about your dog and use code riddle to get 70% off your welcome kit when you subscribe today. Plus, they offer an obsession guarantee. If you're not completely obsessed, you'll get your money back. That's o l l I-e.com riddle and enter code RIDDLE to get 70% off your first box. Ollie, feed the obsession.
JPC
Is that right, Spaghetti? Yeah, that's right. Only dog food it's good dog food.
Adol Refai
That's her voice.
JPC
That's her voice.
Aaron Kiche
That's John Travolta in a dog suit.
JPC
No, it's.
Adol Refai
That's John Travolta.
Aaron Kiche
Look at the beret.
JPC
Guys, I wish it weren't true, but it's her voice. Hey everybody. JPC here and I want to talk to you about Rocket Money, but I couldn't do it without my two friends, Adol. What's up Adol And Aaron. What's going on, Aaron?
Adol Refai
Ew.
JPC
Haha. Classic. Classic you guys. Anyway, Rocket Money, let's talk about it. Rocket Money is a personal finance app that is going to help you get your life together. Rocket Money can track subscriptions and has the ability to cancel unwanted ones within the app with just a few taps, saving users over 880 million in canceled subscriptions. Aaron, how does that sound? You guys don't speak Aaron's language, but to me I know that means very good. Plus, they have automatic transaction categorization across accounts, plus customizable categories and tags to reveal spending patterns. If you are saving for something big like a wedding, which I have saved for before, it can help set budgets and goals. Plus you get personalized insights and regular reports and receive real time alerts for large transactions, upcoming bills, refunds and low balances. Plus, users who create a financial goal with Rocket money save over $70 on average within the first 30 days. Wow. ADOL $70. That sounds like a lot of money, huh? Wow. Well, you can also use their automated savings features that grow towards goals with adjustable amounts and frequencies. It's a set it and forget it approach, but don't take my word for it. You got to try it out yourself. Rocket Money is a personal finance app that helps find and cancel unwanted subscriptions, monitors your spending, and helps lower your bills so you can grow your savings. Let Rocket Money help you reach your financial goals faster. Join RocketMoney.com Riddle that's RocketMoney.com Riddle RocketMoney.com Riddle Yes.
Aaron Kiche
Yes. Yes.
Sandy
Yes, yes, yes.
Aaron Kiche
Yes.
Adol Refai
Guys, I have some pretty exciting news to share with you.
Aaron Kiche
Okay.
Adol Refai
You know how you said I'm not normally allowed to invite friends over to the podcast because we make a mess of the place and leave pizza boxes around and drink all your booze.
Aaron Kiche
Never do dishes.
Adol Refai
Never do dishes. Change the locks, leave crumbs everywhere. Change the locks. Repaint the place. Move the furniture. Scratch the place.
Aaron Kiche
Rename the pets.
Adol Refai
Rename the pets. Adol. Thank you for remembering the most fun thing I do well.
JPC
Repaint the pets. Rename the furniture. Hi. This is a chair. Now.
Adol Refai
Uh huh.
JPC
Okay.
Adol Refai
Brought a guest. But this one is good. This one you'll like. This one doesn't make a mess. This one is the best of us.
JPC
Who?
Sandy
Where is he?
Adol Refai
Yeah. Oh, he can come. But Sandy's here. No, Sandy, you are the best.
Sandy
Oh, thank you. Tell me about this pet renaming business. Because if I knew you could do that, I would go to a lot more parties.
Adol Refai
Yes. You give me one martini and then I just sort of start screaming about what I would rename your pet.
Aaron Kiche
Okay. And Aaron renamed my cat Martini.
Adol Refai
Yes, because I was drinking a martini.
Sandy
Your cats have great names.
Aaron Kiche
My cats?
Sandy
Yeah.
JPC
Yeah.
Aaron Kiche
Thank you. They're all food or drinks. Yes.
JPC
Aaron's like the equivalent of the sorting hat. You kind of just bring her to your party and eventually she'll touch your shoulder and be like, better be Theresa.
Adol Refai
Better be.
Sandy
So what would you name my dog? I know you haven't met her, Ruffles, but her name is Cleo. Now what was it?
Adol Refai
Ruffles? Rumbles, Rubles.
Sandy
Rumbles
Adol Refai
Rubles.
Sandy
Because she's Russian.
JPC
She's always Russian.
Sandy
She does move fast.
JPC
What kind of dog?
Sandy
She's a standard poodle. She's a small standard. She's £40. Yeah. Her name is Cleo. We got her when she was a year old, which meant someone had already trained her, which means we have the best behaved dog and everyone gets all these compliments and we take them.
Adol Refai
All right.
Sandy
We had nothing to do with it.
Adol Refai
I'm going to rename your dog. I'm going to make her name longer and make her Name Cleo from 5 to 7, which is a French movie that is quite good. Haven't seen that on your letterboxd.
Sandy
No, I've never heard of it. Cleo from five to seven.
Adol Refai
Is it? Yeah. It's one of my boyfriend's favorite movies ever. It's truly fantastic.
Sandy
Wait, how many boyfriends do you have?
Adol Refai
One.
JPC
One of my boyfriends.
Adol Refai
Four, five.
JPC
Apostrophe six.
Adol Refai
Seven.
JPC
Have we talked. We must have talked about Cleo on the show before because we certainly have talked about how your son is Ezra, better than Ezra, and your dog is Cleo. Letters to Cleo.
Sandy
Letters to Cleo. Yes, yes. That's as far as it goes. As far as 90s indie band humor in our house.
JPC
Yeah.
Sandy
90s.
JPC
2000s, we'll say 90s. That's fine.
Sandy
That's fine. Clea from five to seven. 1962 starring distracted by a Woman, Luca Dard.
Adol Refai
And it is truly incredible. I have to recommend it. And that is your dog's new name. Who's up next? I. Stop hiding your cast behind you.
JPC
Anyone who their favorite movie is from 62 hasn't seen a lot of Mission Impossible movies. I've just got to say that. I'm just gotta say that.
Adol Refai
I'm just gotta say that.
Sandy
Well, since we're done talking about my dog, I only have one pet to rename. I'm afraid I have two kids if you want to do them.
Adol Refai
But I like them just the way they are.
Sandy
It might be a little confusing.
Aaron Kiche
Less than Jake and Jesus Christ.
Adol Refai
What's another French movie?
Aaron Kiche
Sorry, Less than Jacques.
JPC
Less than Jacques.
Sandy
Eight and a half.
Aaron Kiche
No.
Sandy
Is that French?
Adol Refai
I think that's Italian.
Sandy
Italian, yeah.
JPC
And also, you don't want to name a kid after that movie.
Sandy
Umbrellas of Cherbourg.
Adol Refai
Oh, yes, perfect, perfect.
Sandy
A French. I'll call him Umbrella.
Adol Refai
Yep.
JPC
Umbrelli, this is my daughter, Umbrella.
Adol Refai
Umbrella is a cute name.
Sandy
Well, her name is Zella, so it's close.
Aaron Kiche
You can say an under Zella of Brazella. All right.
Sandy
Well, I brought some riddles for you today, similar to what I did back in December in honor of Father's Day. I think I thought I'd bring them back. These are basically dad jokes.
Adol Refai
Oh, fun, love. Okay. Adults have fun. Good luck. I think I said this last time, too.
Sandy
I'm gonna give you two things and you tell me what they have in common. So the example from last time, which I will say now again, is what does a mountain climber and a stoner have in common? Do you remember?
Adol Refai
They're both high. They like to get high.
Sandy
They both like to get high. Exactly.
Aaron Kiche
That's it.
Sandy
That's the whole thing. Let's keep going and see how well we can do. Or if we could come up with more of our own. What does a bakery and someone who makes money in it have in common?
JPC
Okay, Bakery. Someone who makes money in it.
Adol Refai
Pie bites.
Sandy
You got to think of words that have to do with making money. That can mean making money or involve
Aaron Kiche
a bakery earning bread.
Sandy
Oh, bread's not bad. There's other words too.
JPC
Wait. They work in it.
Sandy
They make money in it. They work in it. And they earn money that way. Yeah.
JPC
Okay. Boards. Cutting boards. And keyboards. Motherboard.
Sandy
Bread is close. What is bread? Before it's bread. Another word for money.
Adol Refai
Dough.
Aaron Kiche
Earned dough.
Sandy
So a certain kind of dough would reflect something that involves computers. What kind of dough?
JPC
A certain kind of dough involves computers.
Sandy
Certain kind of dough is a word that's Also used in IT and computers. What's the word that goes before dough in terms of flavors? Sourdough's type. It's not right.
JPC
Sourdough. Play doh. Play doh. Comes in almost every flavor.
Sandy
Put that in a bakery, I would hope.
Adol Refai
Do not eat Play doh. Is that why you are the way you are?
Sandy
What is the kind of dough you do like to eat?
Adol Refai
Cookie.
JPC
Okay. Cookie chip.
Aaron Kiche
Chip dough. They delete cookies.
Sandy
Oh, cookies. You have cookies in it on your computer.
Adol Refai
All right.
JPC
Oh, God. Yeah, you do. He's.
Aaron Kiche
Hey, did you have to call it to delete cookies? You're doing something.
Sandy
I don't say anything. They make cookie dough. Listen, if you don't like it, blame your father. It's Father's Day. What's.
JPC
Can I tell you a brief IT story? My last office job. Job that I worked with. I always think if you do work in an office where they have an IT department, it's always good to get in with the IT department because they can kind of save your bacon sometimes if they like you or they just.
Sandy
I wouldn't go to bakery that had bacon.
JPC
Yeah, they'll prioritize you. But I was pretty tight with the IT people at my work. But one time I was in there chatting with one of the IT people. I can't remember what I was going in there for, but someone else came in, like a higher up executive, and they were like, I can't get into my laptop. Something's wrong with my laptop. And they just, like, dropped their laptop and left. And the IT person, while we were talking, like, opened up the laptop and on their laptop, I kid you not, when you opened it up, there was a little sticky note with that said password. And then it had their password, like, written down on the laptop. And I looked at the IT guy who was just, like, crestfallen, and he looked at me and he goes, sometimes I hate my job.
Adol Refai
That's so funny.
Sandy
One of the emails in the Epstein files is Jeffrey Epstein emailing a tech support with his passwords in plain text. Very smart OPSEC from those guys.
JPC
So good.
Aaron Kiche
And of course, we know by now there's been a lot of consequences from that.
Sandy
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. We all know that.
JPC
Yes, yes, yes. We're here in June, on the other side. Thank God the world's good.
Adol Refai
Yeah.
Sandy
All right. What does a rational thinker and a jockey's paycheck have in common? Another one about money.
JPC
Rational thinker and jockey's. A jockey's paycheck would be. What about a Jockey. Short horse.
Sandy
Horse is in there. So it's a phrase that there's a homophone.
Aaron Kiche
What was the first one?
Sandy
A rational thinker.
Aaron Kiche
Rational thinker.
JPC
Putting the cart before the horse. No, no, no, no.
Sandy
There's a term for horse blinders. Rational thought that has the word horse in it.
JPC
Horse that has the word horse in it for rational thought. A horse is a horse. Of course. Of course. Except, of course, if a horse is. Horse.
Aaron Kiche
Horse. I guess.
Sandy
A common. A common. Yeah. Rational. Yeah. I think it's fair to say rational thinker.
JPC
You think it's a rational thinker or rational thought?
Sandy
A rational thought. But I'm just saying in terms of who has the thought. A rational thinker. Yes. Rational thoughts. It's also called common sense. Yes. You ever heard that phrase force sense? No, I'm unfamiliar. We're doing great.
Adol Refai
I love to learn.
Aaron Kiche
Hey, and Sandy, you're on all fours. You got a big saddle on your back. You're not a horse, Right?
JPC
Nay.
Adol Refai
All right. Checks out for us.
Aaron Kiche
Give them some sugar.
JPC
Do you know the etymology of horse sense?
Sandy
Of what it's about horses and how rational they are?
JPC
Pretty short. I do say. I'm looking it up right now. It is a 1999 Disney family comedy called Horse Sense. Aaron, look it up. What did Sandy do it on? Letterbox.
Adol Refai
Five stars. Likely Letterboxd. Top four. Sandy.
Sandy
The term like. But no. Since we last talked, I've watched Only Cleo from 9 to 7 and I've written several reviews of it. I'm sure. Just go for it.
Adol Refai
I would love. I'm looking forward to it. I'll look out for it.
JPC
It's an Andrew Lawrence and Joey Lawrence two hander. It is. Okay.
Sandy
A double Lawrence.
JPC
It's a double Lawrence.
Sandy
They call that a double Larry? All right. What does a playground and a Cab Calloway concert have in common?
Aaron Kiche
They both Mini the Moocher.
Sandy
More string.
Adol Refai
A slide.
Sandy
Heidi. Heidi.
Adol Refai
Swing Ho.
Sandy
Mm. Keep going. Swing is you're on your way Swing
Aaron Kiche
revival if ain't got that swing I
Sandy
don't mean a thing Swing is basically enough. It's swing set.
JPC
Swing set.
Adol Refai
Oh, set. Swing set. Of course. Of course.
Sandy
What does a deli counter and a liar have in common?
JPC
Cheese.
Adol Refai
Sliced ham.
Aaron Kiche
Take a number.
JPC
A deli counter. Turkey Telling turkeys.
Aaron Kiche
Tall talk Turkeys.
Adol Refai
They're weighing things. They're weighing.
Sandy
You have mentioned ham. You've mentioned turkey. You're really chicken. There's only a few more options.
JPC
Chicken. They're chicken shapes.
Aaron Kiche
Prosciutt.
Sandy
One of the meats Capicole, Gabagool.
JPC
Ham.
Adol Refai
Tojito.
JPC
Chicken, Turkey.
Sandy
It's not roast beef.
Adol Refai
Beef.
Sandy
There is one thing in the deli counter that is another word for lie.
Aaron Kiche
Ham on.
Adol Refai
Lie.
JPC
There's another word for lie in the deli counter. No. And it's a meat.
Sandy
I mean, it's not really the same word, but it's talking turkey.
JPC
Can you. Oh, boy. I was like, can you give us the animal the meat is from? But I'm like, they're gonna say, can
Sandy
you give me an anagram of it? I was like, no, I cannot.
JPC
As a hint. Can you give me some. Help me.
Adol Refai
Oh, my God.
Aaron Kiche
If I go to a deli, they're like, we have chicken, pork, or bologna. I'm like, I need a new deli.
JPC
I get my bologna sliced?
Sandy
Yes. You get it sliced. You can get it sliced.
JPC
Yeah.
Sandy
It has a first name, though. You got to refer to it by its first name.
Aaron Kiche
My bologna has a first name?
JPC
Yeah. Bologna is one of those meats that I only associate it with. Like, you pick it up from the plastic package, and it's, like, you know, kind of too wet for me, you know?
Adol Refai
Yeah. Okay. All right.
Sandy
What is the commonality between a construction schedule and a 90s radio station? You're going to love this one.
JPC
Construction schedule and a 90s radio station.
Sandy
We'll give you a specific year. 1990. Whoa.
JPC
Hmm.
Adol Refai
So it's a band or an artist?
Sandy
It is a phrase associated with an artist from 1990. A massive, massive hit.
JPC
And it's a construction schedule. Right. Wrecking Ball.
Aaron Kiche
Where the streets have no name.
Sandy
What's a word?
Adol Refai
Stop. Hammer time.
Sandy
You got it.
Aaron Kiche
Wow.
Sandy
It's hammer time.
Aaron Kiche
Nice one, Aaron.
Adol Refai
Hammer time. I needed that.
Sandy
We need to explain Hammer time to your listeners.
JPC
No, I think that they get hammer time.
Sandy
Could you explain it to me?
JPC
I could explain. Yeah. No, not really. I could explain. Go, Ninja. Go, ninja, go.
Aaron Kiche
I can explain. Too legit to quit.
Adol Refai
End of list.
Sandy
Can you explain Adam's family. I was going to say the Milli Vanilli one. What's that one?
Aaron Kiche
Blame it on the Rain.
Sandy
Blaming on the Rain.
JPC
I can't explain Hammer Pants, but I can explain Zumbas.
Sandy
Pretty good Zumba. Isn't that the class you take? The exercise class?
Adol Refai
We don't know.
JPC
I believe it's a style of pant.
Aaron Kiche
They were like a Zumba's. A pant sweatpants.
JPC
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Zumbas. You would know them if you saw them.
Sandy
Isn't it a vacuum cleaner?
Aaron Kiche
That's a Roomba.
Sandy
Oh, that's Roomba.
JPC
And now Rip. Rest in power. Roomba. They're gone.
Adol Refai
Are you serious?
JPC
I believe iRobot went under.
Aaron Kiche
Yeah.
Sandy
Oh. Took over. Oh, really?
Adol Refai
I love my Roomba.
JPC
Well, Aaron, it's going to turn on you.
Adol Refai
No. Come on. No.
JPC
Its masters have unleashed it.
Adol Refai
No.
Sandy
Yeah.
Aaron Kiche
Without the updates.
JPC
Oh, my God.
Adol Refai
It just turned completely red. I didn't know it could do that scary stuff.
Sandy
You're right. IRobot went bankrupt. I don't think that means they went out of business.
JPC
No. Yeah. I'm sorry. They just don't have any money.
Sandy
They just haven't. They don't have any money.
Adol Refai
My Roomba has lasted forever. And I would be so sad if one day I have to replace it. And I can't.
Sandy
Wait. What do we name the Roomba? If you're naming things jpc
Adol Refai
So I can feel power over him somewhere.
Sandy
The C stands for the PC stands for picking crumbs. Just picking crumbs.
Adol Refai
Just picking crumbs.
Sandy
Okay, there we go. What does a rebel and someone following a keto diet have in common?
Aaron Kiche
No grains, no gains.
Sandy
You're there. It is about grain. Grain is in the answer.
Adol Refai
A rebel keto against the grain.
Sandy
Against grain.
JPC
That's so good.
Aaron Kiche
Google radio.
JPC
Turn those grains off.
Sandy
What about a lopsided tennis match and someone excited about getting over the hill?
Adol Refai
Mm.
Aaron Kiche
It's all love, baby.
JPC
It's all love.
Adol Refai
40, 50.
Sandy
Put those two ideas together. You said all 10.
JPC
Loving being 50. 50 love 50.
Sandy
Try to make it exact. Try to make it correct about tennis, and then I'll give it to you.
Adol Refai
Try to make it correct. That doesn't sound like me. I don't want to do that.
Sandy
I was talking to crumb picker.
JPC
Do you say 50 love or do you say love?
Sandy
There's no 50.
JPC
40 love.
Sandy
40 love. Over the hill means turning 40.
Adol Refai
Oh.
Sandy
Oh.
JPC
I didn't know that over the hill meant, like, specifically 40.
Sandy
Yeah, that's what I remember from my parents. Turning 40 is that it was over the hills. Was 40. Is that not right?
Adol Refai
No, it might be.
Aaron Kiche
I don't know.
Adol Refai
Sounds right.
Sandy
Over the hill.
Aaron Kiche
You're the one with horse sense.
Sandy
No, you're the one who's falling down this hill.
JPC
I remember my answer.
Sandy
No, you're right. It doesn't literally say it on the over the hill. 40 or 50. The phrase over the hill is used humorously. Oh, gosh. For both 40 and 50. Okay, there you go.
Aaron Kiche
Interesting.
JPC
I remember there was, like, a gag gift when I was growing up that my Aunts and uncles and their spouses, like, whatever. The whole thing. Whenever it was a ball gag, I remember it was a ball gag. It was like a gag gift that every year Whoever turned like, 40 for, like, Christmas would get, and they would, like, keep gifting it to each other. And it was like a mug, I think. But I don't remember if it said over the hill or if it said, like, flirty 30 and 40, or, you know, one of those fucking things. I can't remember.
Adol Refai
But 40, flirty and 30.
JPC
It was that 40. They got their Temu.
Sandy
Forney and Horny.
Adol Refai
When I turn 40, will you guys get me a cake that says that?
JPC
I'll get you a cake that says Forney and horny, please.
Adol Refai
I'll eat it every day. I'll eat it every day.
Aaron Kiche
Aaron, sweetie, we won't have cakes by then.
Adol Refai
Oh, yeah. We'll have virtual cakes.
Aaron Kiche
E cakes.
JPC
Yeah. Look at you. This is Forney and horny.
Sandy
What about the. What does a good listener have in common with Midwestern fields?
Aaron Kiche
All ears.
Sandy
Oh, wow.
JPC
Wow.
Sandy
He got you the downstater. Picked that one up right away.
JPC
Yeah.
Adol Refai
Incredible.
Sandy
How about the bank of England and an animal shelter's record keeper,
JPC
A magister.
Aaron Kiche
They're both going to Pound Town.
JPC
Pound Town.
Sandy
Well, you're on the way. Yeah, yeah.
JPC
Pound has gotta be pound town.
Aaron Kiche
Oh, they run up. Yes. They run a pound they.
Sandy
I mean, I guess I could say London and the site of an orgy is pound town. But that's not the clue we're given here. This is the bank of England.
Adol Refai
Still fun, though.
Sandy
Still fun.
Aaron Kiche
The last time I was in.
Sandy
Next time you go. The last time you were in orgy, you walked in, you're like, am I in London? Because this is downtown.
Adol Refai
And they go, please leave. And you go, of course, of course.
Aaron Kiche
So sorry. So sorry. The last time I was in London, Gemma and I did find a. Was it Pound Town? It was like their dollar store and it was called, like, Pound Town or Pound Village or something. And we just kept taking pictures of the sign because we're like, is anyone else seeing this? Am I crazy?
Sandy
That's what British people do when they come to America and they find a come and go.
Adol Refai
Oh, yeah, yeah.
JPC
That's what people from America do when they find a come and go. You're right. They're like, what? We still call it this. Did we get it? Was it Pound town?
Sandy
It's not pound town. It's a word that describes, like, records
JPC
or pound broker, pound keeper.
Sandy
It's a word that's also used to describe currency.
Aaron Kiche
So pound blank, changer, pound conversion, pound.
Sandy
I mean, this is not nearly as good as pound town. We should stop and go on to the next one. This is pound notes.
JPC
Pound notes. Okay.
Sandy
Pound notes. Yeah, they call nuts. How about a fake crier? And multi level zoos. This is. Now we're getting to shit.
Adol Refai
Crocodile tears.
Sandy
You got it.
JPC
Nice.
Sandy
Crocodile tears, Aaron.
Adol Refai
That was. I'm really glad I got one. That was good for morale.
JPC
What did Zany give crocodile tears on letterbox?
Sandy
Next time you're at the zoo,
Adol Refai
start
Sandy
crying in front of the crocodile exhibit and be like, I think they should be on multi levels. And they'll be like, what are you talking about? You're like, crocodile tears. And then they'll kick you out.
Adol Refai
And they go, please leave. And you go, yep, I got kicked out of that orgyl. I got kicked out of the zoo. I'm fine. Everything's.
JPC
I haven't found the right place for me yet, but when I do, I'll know.
Sandy
Yeah, how about someone?
JPC
And if you don't keep trying, you'll never find it.
Sandy
Someone walking the plank. And someone gilding the lily.
JPC
Walking the plank.
Sandy
Also, this one's not even that much of a difference in meaning. One is just an exaggerated form of the other or colloquial form of the other.
JPC
Is it just like, tread carefully?
Sandy
No. When you walk the plank, what happens next? Fall in the water and that means you are dead. You've gone overboard to the fishes.
Aaron Kiche
Oh, overboard.
Adol Refai
Going overboard.
Sandy
You gild the lily.
JPC
Yeah. Yeah.
Adol Refai
Is that what the lily means?
Sandy
Good Lily means to add more flourish to something that doesn't need it.
Aaron Kiche
Yeah.
Adol Refai
Oh, okay.
JPC
I know. It is a 1999 Disney family comedy starring the Lawrence brothers.
Aaron Kiche
I thought Adam Sandler's first movie was called Going Overboard.
Sandy
There's a movie called Overboard starring Kurt Russell and Goldie Hawk.
Adol Refai
It's great.
Sandy
Which is great.
Aaron Kiche
Yeah.
Sandy
No, it's great. And they remade it, unfortunately, with I think Anna Faris and someone else.
JPC
Fun fact about you're thinking Going overboard. Adol. Right? Going overboard.
Aaron Kiche
Oh, going overboard.
JPC
Yeah.
Sandy
What's that?
JPC
I remember the DVD or vhs, whatever cover is Adam Sandler going like, huh? Like. And he's got like swim floaties on. Yeah, that's. I've never seen that movie.
Aaron Kiche
Same. Never will.
Sandy
No, never seen that one either. But it's on my list. I got a long list of movies to catch up on for my next visit to you guys.
Aaron Kiche
Okay.
Sandy
I've got a couple more.
JPC
Okay.
Sandy
A jet Plane and a young prince's art project.
JPC
A jet plane and a young prince's art project.
Aaron Kiche
They both have darling Nikki's neom.
JPC
Jet plane is.
Sandy
What's a word that is when you are doing kids doing an art project, we call that a mess. It is a kind of another word for art project. What kind of project?
Adol Refai
It is diorama.
Sandy
It goes with the word art.
JPC
Poison art.
Sandy
Arts and crafts.
JPC
Craft.
Sandy
So it's a kind of craft. So now go back to aircraft.
Aaron Kiche
Oh, aircraft. H E I R. Aircraft.
JPC
Aircraft. I forgot the nice one. Some of these could be the homophones
Sandy
or whatever you forgot JPC about the homophones.
Aaron Kiche
I just got crocodile tears.
JPC
I know, I know.
Sandy
All right, two more. What's the difference between. Or what's in common between a query and a congressional hearing about Facebook.
Aaron Kiche
And Sandy, I would love if you sign up for, like, an open mic standup set and just do these. Hey, everybody, what's the difference between a. And then make them solve it. And they're like, what? Honey, get a pen of paper.
JPC
A query and a congressional hearing about Facebook.
Sandy
Mm. You're gonna love this one.
JPC
Okay, so like, query is like ask or question or what comes at the end of search?
Aaron Kiche
Question mark.
Sandy
Question marks.
Aaron Kiche
They both question marks.
Sandy
They both question marks.
Adol Refai
They both question marks. That's incredible.
Aaron Kiche
Very good one, Sandy.
Sandy
I'm so sorry. And finally, Frodo Baggins. And this very real thing I'm about to describe. The bell that freezes everyone in a shopping center.
JPC
The bell that freezes everyone in a shock.
Aaron Kiche
Something about rings they both have. Powerful rings. They both have.
Sandy
It is about a ring, correct?
JPC
Ring of power.
Sandy
What does the ring do?
Aaron Kiche
Makes you invisible.
Sandy
Well, there's a phrase in play here.
JPC
A phrase from Lord of the Rings.
Adol Refai
One ring.
Aaron Kiche
One ring to rule them all, My precious. One ring to rule them all.
Sandy
To rule them all.
JPC
The male. Oh, I got too caught up. I got too caught up.
Sandy
And here is that ring.
JPC
No.
Sandy
You should all freeze now.
JPC
I thought that the mall freezing ring thing was a property that I was like, I'm not familiar with what this is.
Sandy
You forgot everything you learned about mall freezing rings in college? Yeah. Freeze the mall.
Aaron Kiche
Hop behind this Orange Julius counter. Go to B. Dalton real quick.
Sandy
God. Oh, my God. This is like visceral memories from roaming malls as a kid.
JPC
Ah, the Roman malls. Orange Julius.
Aaron Kiche
Julius. These are, of course.
JPC
And one more Roman mall joke.
Aaron Kiche
The Barnes and Nobles, please gather round. Neiman Marcus Aurelius.
Adol Refai
Oh, holy fuck. He's got goosebumps.
JPC
Roman balls. Feels like A throwaway joke from, like, a Mel Brooks, like, movie where it's like a store that's just called Columns and all they sell is Columns.
Aaron Kiche
Well, Sandy, thank you so much. This was a goddamn delight.
Sandy
You're welcome.
Adol Refai
An honor to have you back.
Sandy
Thanks for having me. It's been fun.
Adol Refai
We're lucky. We're lucky.
JPC
Where can people find you, Sandy? What do you got to plug? What's going on in your neck of the woods?
Sandy
I am still doing rattle. Yeah, still doing Rattle at rattle quest or rattlerattle.com and I also run my company called the Mystery League, which is for corporate team building and other puzzle adventures and other things that are fun. Yeah, that's what I'm doing. And right now I'm probably on a beach somewhere, so don't ring me.
Adol Refai
All right.
JPC
So if you see a guy on a beach walking up to you, I
Sandy
just mean part of me on as a beach, because I'm on every beach.
JPC
Sandy, sometimes if you put your ear to the beach, you could hear someone being like, what does a.
Sandy
You can hear a riddle.
JPC
My God, a blind horse have in common with a soup that's too hot?
Aaron Kiche
They're both inedible.
JPC
They're both inedible. All right. Bye, Sandy.
Sandy
Bye.
JPC
Okay, what else? What are we plugging? Aaron, do you have anything to plug?
Adol Refai
Yes, in a couple weeks, a little less than two weeks, I have my next quality time show here in la. I have met so many really kind, funny, hey, Riddle. Riddle listeners at these shows. A lot of people from out of town that will swing by and say hello and it means a lot. It's a variety show. You can find us at quality time on Instagram if you want a ticket and if you want a comp also reach out to me and I can sort that out for you. I have anything to plug.
JPC
Free show.
Aaron Kiche
Yes, I want to plug the TV show Widow's Bay. I've been enjoying a great deal. I think it's incredible. So please check out Widow's Bay on Apple tv. I also based on TJ sending us that great fun little outlier from Columbus. If you're ever in Columbus, check out Cosi Children's Museum and also my uncle Nasser's restaurant fur Dos. I don't know if it's still open. I haven't talked to my uncle Nasser in 30 years. 28. 30 years.
Adol Refai
Worth a shot.
Aaron Kiche
When I. When I lived in Columbus.
JPC
Check on him, see if he's still alive too. He's called for uncle.
Aaron Kiche
He had that restaurant for Dos Middle East.
JPC
Can I ask a question about the restaurant at all? Can I eat there if it's just me or does it have to be Frados?
Aaron Kiche
It's Middle Eastern food for Mexican couples.
JPC
Can that be our new tagline? Hey, Riddle, Riddle. Middle Eastern food for Mexican couples.
Aaron Kiche
Table for Dose jbc. Is there anything you'd like to plug or promote?
JPC
Yeah, well, the first thing I'd like to plug is my buddy Adol or Fi just had a big birthday. Happy birthday, Adol.
Aaron Kiche
Thank you so much.
JPC
The only reason that we forgot to mention it is because it hasn't happened yet. But when this episode comes out, it will have been your birthday. So happy birthday, man. And anything else that I want to plug. Oh, yeah, listen to Gumshoes and Dragons. That's a fun show. Us and Anthony Burch doing adventures Columbo style. And then I want to read a review. This is a review from Liz. Permission to use my name, which is a great, A great title for your name. And it's a five star review. It says if I could give zero stars, I would. I recently started watching Veep for the first time, so I was excited to hear that the hilarious Tony Hale was going to be the guest on the most recent episode. However, I was completely taken aback at the amount of spoilers. Erin said her favorite scene in Veep was when Selina finds out she's going to be president. I go home tonight. And the next episode up was season two, episode nine, Crate, wherein Selina finds out she's going to be president. This unabashed spoiler is egregious. It's basic human decency to allow a reasonable amount of time for the average person to see a piece of media without publicly spoiling it for everyone. Rude. That show came out in 2012. Ten years is more than enough time.
Aaron Kiche
I can't believe a TV show about a vice president has. That has them becoming president.
JPC
That's a wild plot line. That is a wild plot line.
Adol Refai
No, I hear you. I hear you. And now we spoiled it again for more people.
JPC
Well, that person spoiled it in their review. Yeah, complaining about this hurt people.
Adol Refai
Hurt people.
Aaron Kiche
Casey, can you beep out? I said Widow's Bay is good. Can you beep out good? Because that.
JPC
That's a. Yeah.
Aaron Kiche
Because then people are gonna watch and be like, fuck, that was. That was great.
Adol Refai
Can you be both? That JPC is a demon.
JPC
They said Widow's Bay is some slur that they couldn't say on the podcast.
Adol Refai
Hot dogs. Hot dogs. Hot dogs. Hot dogs. Hot dogs.
JPC
Starring Aaron Keenan and John Patrick Cohen. Casey Tony did the editing and Artie Paris in the music logo created by Emily Cardamus and Emily Naporus. Oh, my God. Wait. We have to wish Adel a happy birthday. It was his birthday two days ago.
Adol Refai
It's a birthday. Two days ago. It's a birthday.
JPC
Hold on, hold on. We actually. We have to work it into a
Adol Refai
plug, but yeah, no, just drop that anywhere.
JPC
Just drop it in. Just drop it in. Hey there, Plomps. And condolences. If you like that, you are gonna love this week's Patreon. Our friend Janet Varney joins us for another. Hey, relationship. Relationship. You can listen to that plus our entire back catalog@patreon.com Heyriddle Riddle by joining the clue crew for $5 a month. Or start your 7 day free trial or the review crew for $8 a month. Plus you get those ad free Episodes.
Adol Refai
That was a Headgum podcast. Hi, I am Mandy Moore.
Sandy
Sterling K. Brown.
Aaron Kiche
And I'm Chris Sullivan.
JPC
And we host the podcast that was
Aaron Kiche
us now on Headgum.
Adol Refai
Each episode we're gonna go into a deep dive from our show. This is us.
Sandy
That's right.
Adol Refai
We're gonna go episode by episode. We're also gonna pepper in episodes with different guest stars and writers and casting directors.
Aaron Kiche
Yeah.
JPC
Are we gonna cry? Yes, a little bit.
Sandy
Are we gonna laugh a lot?
JPC
A whole lot.
Sandy
That's what I'm hoping, man. Listen to. That was us on your favorite podcast app. Or watch full video episodes on YouTube or Spotify. New episodes every Tuesday.
Release Date: June 3, 2026
Hosts: Adal Rifai, Erin Keif, John Patrick Coan (JPC)
Special Guest: Sandy (from The Mystery League)
This episode of Hey Riddle Riddle delivers exactly the brand’s signature blend: riddles, lateral thinking puzzles, improvised sketches, and comedic detours. The trio welcome guest Sandy to run a series of "What do these two things have in common?"-style dad joke riddles, in a nod to Father’s Day. Along the way, the hosts poke fun at homeownership woes, 90s pop culture, and their own running gags. The vibe throughout is relentlessly goofy and playful.
Language/Tone: Spirited, relentlessly silly, heavy on offbeat riffs, quick-improv, and meta-joking. The mood is informal, inclusive, and often self-deprecating.
For New Listeners:
This episode is a solid showcase of Hey Riddle Riddle’s format: comedic group riddling punctuated by elaborate scenes, tangents, and callbacks, with the riddles themselves ranging from clever to groan-worthy. The addition of Sandy’s dad joke riddles and the running bit about pet and product names gives it a special variety-show energy.
If you like your riddles funny and your podcasts unhinged, this is an ideal entry point!