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Katie
This is a headgum podcast.
JPC (John Patrick Cohen)
Hey everybody, it's jpc. Are you anything like me? Do you wake up and immediately need a nicotine pouch or a cup of coffee just to feel like a human? Or maybe a little whiff of cat food? Like you just crack the corner of one of those little tins and just smell kind of just what's inside the cat. You don't want it to eat it. We all know you don't eat cat food, but are you like me? Does that happen to you? Well, that's why I want to talk to you today about Ultra pouches. They have been a complete game changer for my folks and energy levels. They are completely nicotine free and completely caffeine free and as far as I know it's not in the copy. But they're also cat food free. If you are one of those people that needs to sniff cat food first thing in the morning and you're probably thinking if they don't have nicotine or caffeine or cat food in them, what exactly is in them? And that is a great question. Ultra has partnered with leading neuroscientists to design these pouches. They use clinically proven nootropics and adaptogens to deliver immediate focus and smooth energy that lasts one to two hours. Hours. So we're talking about things like infinity PX, L theanine, alpha GPC. Kind of sounds like alpha JPC and vitamin B6 and B12. These are truly clean plant powered pouches designed to sharpen your mind and lift your energy. All without caffeine, nicotine, current food or crash. I've tried these. They actually do wonders for your energy levels. It is a great replacement to that first hit of cat food. I mean caffeine in the morning and 90% of users saw significant improvements in their overall focus levels, enhanced memory, smooth energy, mood balance, all with zero nicotine and zero caffeine. Ultra is the ultimate guilt free pouch delivering instant focus and mental clarity without nicotine or caffeine. New customers can use Code Riddle to get 15% off@takeultra.com that's takeultra.com for 15% off with code RIDDLE. After you purchase they'll ask you where you heard about them. Please support our show and tell them. Hey Riddle. Riddle sent ya. The doctor was the mother. He stood on a block of ice. Both of them were goldfish. It was the cannon of an airplane.
Holly
He stabbed him with an ice ray
JPC (John Patrick Cohen)
and the horse is named Fright.
Aaron
Good news Adol jpc. I need to do one more Episode. And then I've earned my riddle badge.
Holly
Oh, Aaron, congratulations.
Aaron
Thank you. I got this one for helping an old lady cross the street. I got this one for learning how to climb a tree. And now I just have a spot ready for riddles.
JPC (John Patrick Cohen)
And then once you get this. Aaron, I'm so sorry. I know I should take more of an interest in your social hobbies, but what is it you become? You become a
Aaron
certified witch.
Holly
Ooh.
JPC (John Patrick Cohen)
Oh, Aaron, congratulations. You've been searching for that for so long.
Aaron
I know. I get to finally put curses on you guys if you wrong me in any sort of way.
JPC (John Patrick Cohen)
Aw.
Holly
All right. Oh, Aaron, just to make sure real quick, when you helped an old lady across the street, it wasn't like a Mrs. Doubtfire situation, right?
Aaron
What do you mean, you think?
Holly
Well, if it wasn't true, if it was like a guy trying to win back his kids, it doesn't count.
Aaron
It doesn't count.
Holly
Yeah. And then you can never be a witch.
JPC (John Patrick Cohen)
Yeah.
Aaron
Okay, what about the me climbing a tree? It was kind of a Mrs. Doubtfire situation when I did that.
JPC (John Patrick Cohen)
Well, I'll just say, aaron, and I don't know your specific situation. It's happened to me a bunch of times. I wouldn't put this on you, but if you climbed a person wearing a tree costume that you thought was a tree, that's not gonna count for much.
Aaron
Okay, I'm gonna throw my sash into the garbage. All right, guys, that's fine. I don't even care.
JPC (John Patrick Cohen)
And we technically don't even do riddles on this podcast. We just do jokes, so it's like you can't really get a riddle badge for this podcast either.
Aaron
I don't even care. That's fine.
Holly
Me at my desk, seeing Aaron throw her sash in the garbage. One good deed. Something, something. You've done it, Aaron. My. My boy. You've done it.
Aaron
No, it's too late.
Katie
I don't care.
Aaron
I don't care.
Katie
Doesn't matter.
Holly
Never mind.
Katie
Let's do it.
JPC (John Patrick Cohen)
Oh, yeah, let's do an episode. And who better to do an episode with but the soccer moms?
Katie
They don't.
JPC (John Patrick Cohen)
They don't.
Aaron
Katie. Rich.
JPC (John Patrick Cohen)
Oh, maybe they're excited.
Melissa
Hiya.
Katie
We were so excited that our tongues fell out and we had to put them back in. We could really use someone who could help us and get a badge for it, but I guess that won't happen.
Aaron
Oh, it's too late.
Katie
It's too late.
JPC (John Patrick Cohen)
Aaron already has her tonguing a woman badge.
Aaron
I got that in college. Who didn't spinning a cigar.
Melissa
The little badge just has, like, a cherry stem with a knot in.
Aaron
Guys, thank you for coming to the show. This is a huge honor to have you. We've had you before, but to have you on together is very meaningful to me. I'm very happy to have you on.
Katie
We're so happy. Holly and I have gotten to a point where we don't want to do anything not together. So thank you for acknowledging and adhering to that.
Melissa
Yeah, we've planned a whole strategy on how to cheat today, so. But it requires both of us. It's kind of like a card counting thing, but it works for riddles.
Katie
Unfortunately, there's no visual. But there's some blinking. There's some Morse code blinking. Sort of like the torture guy. We all know the torture guy.
Aaron
I feel like you guys are going to be the first to hack the show. We have never had riddle card counters on before, so this is going to be really exciting.
Katie
If there's anything that Holly and I are good at, it's not doing the job, but working hard to do the thing to help us not do the job.
Aaron
Cutting a corner and it's a longer route. I totally correct.
Katie
We would rather walk three miles than the five minutes it takes.
Holly
Here's my. And I'm not trying to cast accusations. My guess is that one of you distracts us with a personal anecdote while the other one Googles the answer to the riddle.
Katie
Okay, we're gonna have to come up with something else. Yeah. Shoot.
Melissa
Wow, that's. Well, he got there. Right? Right in the first try.
Katie
Yes. We're gonna play fair for one of the first times in our lives. Although I am using a dog as well to help to distract.
Melissa
We have a phone. A dog.
Katie
Yeah, we have a phone.
JPC (John Patrick Cohen)
A dog.
Katie
But it's wonderful to be here. We just. We adore you guys, and. Yeah. Thank you.
Aaron
If. If people haven't heard your past episodes, could you guys talk about, like, your time in Chicago together and how you met?
Melissa
We met through the sacred act of improv. Chicago Improv scene. Through our. Our patron saint, Sharna Halpern.
Aaron
I pray to her every night.
Katie
Every night. Yeah. Holly and I have known each other for an embarrassingly long time, and then we both got the honor of doing the main stage at Second City together. And we were the only two women. Which never really happens. It was just. We were too much women for. They had two black cast members, and then they were like, well, then we can't have more than, you know, two women.
JPC (John Patrick Cohen)
And Noah's arc style.
Katie
Huh?
JPC (John Patrick Cohen)
Noah's ark style. Two by two, 1,000%.
Katie
And we kind of went through, like, 20 years of friendship in, like, two years. Cause we were just always together in a small space. And like, we went through all the fights and the things and everything that you would go through in 20 years of friendship. And so now we're just kind of the same person.
Melissa
Family.
Katie
Yeah, now we're just family.
Melissa
Now we're just like a real functional family.
Katie
Yes.
Melissa
Who's ever heard of one of them?
Katie
And so we. We haven't been able to live in the same city for a while. And so we wanted to do a project that would be an excuse for us to kind of be together and not have to act too much. And so we created soccer moms where we play fictional versions of ourselves that are very rooted in ourselves that are. We are two best friends. Shocking. Who have children. That's the stretch. Who play in youth sports. And the games are so boring that they've decided to start a podcast in their minivan. And that is the basis of it. And it sort of is two types of. We sometimes do straight interviews with people who are just playing themselves, and we're interviewing them in character. And then most of it is our friends coming on and doing a character that lives in the world with us
Melissa
to improvise with us. We're going to make all you do it.
Aaron
Yep. Sorry. When that popped up on Instagram, I literally mumbled to myself, I manifested this. I was like, I did this. If you wish hard enough, a podcast exists.
Holly
Aw.
Katie
Well, we can't wait to have you all on. And yeah, we got some big folks coming up. Big guests. Not in size, but in stature.
JPC (John Patrick Cohen)
Who's your tallest guest?
Aaron
That's a great question.
JPC (John Patrick Cohen)
Because we just had Ross Bryant on a different show of ours, and I gotta say, Ross.
Katie
I think Ross. God damn it.
Melissa
We've had.
Katie
Ross is probably the tallest. Ross makes me feel normal sized. Cause I'm very tall.
Aaron
How tall are you?
Katie
I'm five' ten, but I usually wear something with a little bit of oomph to it. So I'm usually about six feet, five'
JPC (John Patrick Cohen)
ten with a cape.
Katie
Five ten with a cape?
Aaron
Yes, sir.
Katie
Yes, sir. I think Ross probably right. That's the tallest guest we've had. That's the tallest person we've ever had.
Melissa
I don't know. I don't know.
Katie
We just had Ashlyn Harris. I don't. She. How is she? She's like. She's almost six feet tall.
Aaron
Yeah.
Melissa
The goalkeeper for the women's team. Ashlyn Harris. Woo. Very.
Aaron
That's so cool.
Katie
Very hot. So, yeah, so it was basically just our excuse to get to be with each other a lot. It's on big Many players network on iHeart, which is will Ferrell's network. And yeah, we have been having such a great time.
Aaron
It's the best. I implore people to check it out and we normally do plugs at the end. But I wanted you guys to talk about it right at the beginning because I. People have, like, when I get asked about and I've gushed to you guys about it, so I'm just gonna talk about you like you're not here. But when I get asked about, like, big influences. Katie and Holly have my favorite second city scene of all time. Is it a student and a teacher or a guidance counselor and a teacher? Yeah, it's the best. And then you guys came and did a two person show at I.O. when I was a student. And I truly, like, in a daze, catatonically on the train the whole ride home was like, something has changed. I know who I'm. I know something has happened to me and I know who I'm trying to be.
JPC (John Patrick Cohen)
That sounds like the beginning of a musical member, Erin.
Aaron
Yeah, I made the whole train car sing with me and they were furious.
JPC (John Patrick Cohen)
Yeah, I thought you were gonna say something has changed.
Katie
You.
Melissa
You got your first period that night.
Holly
I did.
Aaron
I became a woman that night.
JPC (John Patrick Cohen)
No, wait, hold on. I actually know when Aaron got her first period, and it's when she saw Tom Brady in a Boston pastry parade.
Aaron
Yeah, that is actually. I. Well, I know that's when I became a woman. I felt like I became a woman
JPC (John Patrick Cohen)
when he looked at. What am I saying?
Katie
So when you look at him now, does your period go back?
Aaron
Oh, yeah, it just. It comes out my mouth. I get, like, throwing up blood.
Katie
Something definitely comes out my mouth when I see him now.
Aaron
I went to the Roast of Tom Brady because my friend was a producer on it and I hadn't seen him since I was in the third grade in person at that Patriots parade. And I went, oh, man, you were handsome once. And now you look like a scary marionette puppet. Oh, no.
Katie
It's real tough what he's done to himself. And you know, he's literally. It pains me to say, but he is the greatest of all time. And he still had to do that to himself. So what hope? Remember when Halle Berry got cheated on? I was like, there's no hope for any of us. You just gotta, like, who you are and accept it.
JPC (John Patrick Cohen)
Halle Berry. I don't remember this. Who did that?
Katie
David Justice.
JPC (John Patrick Cohen)
Shame. David justice, the ballplayer. And David got him back in chump of the week. That's the thing we do every week.
Katie
We have a choice in 1994. Yeah.
Aaron
You could get chump of the week for stuff that you did in the 90s, for sure. We're not. Your crimes follow you here on retroactive
Katie
chump of the week.
Aaron
Right.
Katie
It's not a linear thing.
JPC (John Patrick Cohen)
No.
Katie
It exists outside of time, definitely.
JPC (John Patrick Cohen)
Okay. We're all saying the same thing now.
Katie
Yes.
JPC (John Patrick Cohen)
We all agree we're all on the same page. And so let's get even further on the same page by doing some riddles, huh? How does that sound?
Melissa
Woo hoo.
Katie
Very nervous. Yeah.
JPC (John Patrick Cohen)
Katie, Holly, we've had you both on the show before, but separately. Katie, we were looking at this before we started recording. We had you on almost two years ago. And Holly, it's been five years since you've been on the show. So in the last two for Katie, five for Holly, has your relationship with riddles changed at all?
Katie
Well, Covid didn't help.
JPC (John Patrick Cohen)
Yep.
Aaron
You know, and you came on post Covid already, so. Yeah.
JPC (John Patrick Cohen)
So I believe you came out of 2024, so. But Covid didn't help with that.
Melissa
Yeah, Covid didn't do shit for my appearance last time.
Katie
And that was like the height of
JPC (John Patrick Cohen)
COVID This is 2021, I believe. Yes.
Melissa
I will say that I came on feeling like I'm somebody who enj a riddle. I did, I did pretty well when I was reading the Hobbit of what has He Got in Its Pockets? Is I, I, I'm probably gonna be all right. And then what I learned in that postco appearance on hey Riddle Riddle is that I, I started acting like my microphone wasn't working so that you would think that was why I didn't ever have any answers.
Aaron
There she strategy that no one had done before.
Katie
I mean, there she goes walking across the street.
JPC (John Patrick Cohen)
Well, okay, so that's great news because I think today's riddles are going to kind of just ease you back in. Now, these are submitted by a listener. This is a listener whose name is Kathleen and Kathleen is in Calgary.
Katie
Okay.
JPC (John Patrick Cohen)
Kathleen wrote us also a very nice note that said that she started listening to the show when her first child was born. And her first child is seven. And she lets that child listen to it.
Aaron
Hang up. Hang up the phone.
Katie
I don't want to think about that.
Aaron
Hang up.
JPC (John Patrick Cohen)
Just kind of rough stuff.
Aaron
Stop it.
JPC (John Patrick Cohen)
Just kind of rough stuff. Okay, so here's your first riddle. This is a riddle from Kathleen. When is your uncle's sister. When is your uncle's sister not your aunt?
Holly
When she's your mom, Adam.
JPC (John Patrick Cohen)
It is when she is your mom. That is correct.
Holly
Ooh, I do want to see a scene.
Katie
Adel's just a stud.
Melissa
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Holly
I do want to see a seed. Is everyone familiar with the Jack Nicholson story?
Melissa
No.
Katie
There's many of his parentage.
Holly
Katie. Totally fair.
JPC (John Patrick Cohen)
I mean, he got points for being the Joker, right?
Holly
Like, he took merch points. Yeah, he made, like, 250 million off Batman. Which is true. He found out at some point that his mom was his sister and his grandma was his mom.
Katie
Oh, I think that was very common of his era.
Holly
Oh, yeah. Where it's like, we've lost that.
Katie
We've lost that tradition, that whimsy of.
Holly
Oh, Sarah. Sarah's upstate, and when she comes back, I've had a new kid. So I'd like to see a scene. Let's say that, Holly, you are sitting Aaron down to let her know that you are not her real mom, that Katie is her real mom. And, Katie, you can be whoever you like, darling.
Melissa
I went to the Hostess outlet today, so I've got fresh boxes of whatever you like. I got Ho Hos, Twinkies, Ding Dongs. I even got you some.
Aaron
Mom, you never let me have dessert like this. What's going on? Do you have bad news? Are you okay?
Melissa
No, I just. I couldn't miss a sale. I could not miss a sale. And these are all buy one, get one or half off, which I think is the same thing. But I didn't stick around to do the math. I just started filling up my cart, and for the life of me, I could not remember, what's your favorite? Or is it these of the cherry pies? Is it these?
Aaron
I'm a Twinkie gal. The entire dining room is filled. Mom.
Katie
Are these. Are these guilt desserts?
Aaron
What's going on?
Melissa
These are love desserts. Because I love you so much, I want you to have a little pleasure. I know you like to pull your Twinkie into two and make two little Twinkie boats instead of one Twinkie log. So here you go. Here you have one little Twinkie.
Katie
Margaret. Is that my cue?
Melissa
Come on in. Come on in. Come on in. Diane.
Aaron
Oh, hi, Diane.
Katie
Oh, hey. Hey, sport.
Aaron
Babe.
Melissa
Diane. Diane.
Katie
Give her a hug.
Aaron
Give her a hug. Get in there.
Katie
Get in here.
Melissa
Get in there.
Aaron
Her arms are so strong.
Melissa
Doesn't that feel good?
Katie
And yours are, too. Yours are, too. More than you think. More than you could ever know.
Melissa
Yeah. Yeah. Do you think.
Aaron
Is Diane dying?
JPC (John Patrick Cohen)
Mom?
Aaron
Your. Your weird friend Diane. Sorry, I.
JPC (John Patrick Cohen)
Sorry.
Katie
Hey, you can editorialize as much as you want, babe. You can, I promise.
Melissa
But no, nobody's dying. I mean, I feel like I just want to tell you.
Katie
Diane.
Aaron
You only see Diane usually on the 4th of July.
Katie
Yeah, that was a big day for us.
Melissa
That is. That is.
Katie
That was a big day for us.
Melissa
Yeah.
Katie
And not just because I lost a finger, because I gained something real important that day, too.
Melissa
That's right. Someone. Well, you know how. Honey, you know how, when all the. When all the.
Aaron
Stop shoving Twinkies in my mouth.
Katie
Mom, please.
Aaron
I'll eat them at my own pace.
Melissa
I want you to know. Do you remember in Star wars when all the Jedi ships, when Luke is racing toward the Death Star and all the stormtrooper ships are following him and he's going towards the Death Star? It's so much like what happens in a woman's reproductive system. These.
Katie
These.
Melissa
These little. A little fleet of tiny ships are headed toward.
Katie
They're little white guys, too.
Melissa
Yeah. Toward a big Death Star. And, you know, is this a birds
Aaron
and the bees conversation? Because, Mom, I know all of this. I went through posse.
Katie
Okay.
Melissa
About the sperm fertilizing the egg.
Aaron
Yeah, I know. Gross. I don't want to talk in front of weird firework, Diane. Sorry, I'm not. I'm not supposed to.
Katie
It's my change my name. You got to call me. What? You know, that's my legal name.
Melissa
I just wanted to tell you that, basically, there's never been a fleet of Jedi ships or stormtrooper ships heading toward my Death Star, but Diane has. In fact, just like that one Jedi did get in and blow up the Death Star. Same thing happened to Diane's egg.
Katie
Yeah.
Melissa
Yeah.
Aaron
I'm a Boba Fett.
Katie
Not anymore, hon. Not anymore. But I was. I was. I got ripped up pretty bad.
Aaron
Yeah. Okay.
Melissa
Anyway.
Katie
Well, you know how it's real hard for you to find hats?
Aaron
Yeah, classically, I have a really hard time finding hats.
Katie
I know. Yeah. Well, that's not a coincidence. It's correlation and causation. Those two things exist.
Aaron
Oh, you're eating Twinkies, too? You have the same favorite as me.
Katie
Pull them apart. You gotta.
Melissa
She pulls me apart, too. Make two little Twinkie bows. Yeah.
Katie
Gotta do both.
Aaron
Yeah. Wait a minute.
Melissa
And look, you. You both have a dimple in your chin. Look at that.
Katie
Mine's from getting hit with a golf club.
Melissa
That's true.
Katie
That's not necessarily how evolution works. The genetics. But that's how strong it was.
Melissa
Yeah.
Katie
Babe. I'm your mom.
Melissa
That's your mom.
Katie
I'm your mom.
Melissa
That's her. She's your mom.
Katie
I couldn't. And your friend. I guess you're her friend now. I don't know.
Aaron
Yeah.
Katie
What?
Melissa
We call you My friends Forever. You were chosen family and weird firework.
Aaron
Diane's my mom. His dad. My dad.
JPC (John Patrick Cohen)
I'm still your dad. I'm still your dad.
Holly
See? It's just been sitting there the whole time.
JPC (John Patrick Cohen)
Just. Just nodding. Just nodding the entire time. Star Wars. Yes.
Holly
Genius. Two things real quick. One. I never realized sperm and stormtroopers are both little white guys.
Melissa
Yeah.
Holly
And then also. I really like the idea. I've never heard before. Log or little boats. Like you want your Twinkies. Little boats or log. I think that's phenomenal.
Melissa
It's so fun to pull them apart. And then you get the feeling like you got to eat two instead of one.
Holly
Yes.
Melissa
And all the frosting is out. And so you get to. But you know what was driving me crazy? What are those stormtrooper ships called with the flat sides that. What are those called? TIE fighters.
Holly
Oh.
Melissa
TIE fighters.
Katie
Everyone hears. Had sex.
Aaron
Look at all these improvisers. TIE fighters.
Katie
TIE fighters. It's a TIE fighter. Yeah.
JPC (John Patrick Cohen)
I hate how when you're having sex and you're about to land the killing blow and then the Millennium Falcon swoops in there and then takes it from you. It's like God every time.
Katie
Been there.
JPC (John Patrick Cohen)
Here's your next riddle. What is black when new? Red when in use and gray when discarded.
Katie
Oh. When new.
JPC (John Patrick Cohen)
When new. It is black. It is red when it is in use. And it is gray when discarded.
Aaron
Hmm. Did we get a hint?
Holly
Charcoal.
JPC (John Patrick Cohen)
It's charcoal.
Katie
Charcoal.
Melissa
Stud.
JPC (John Patrick Cohen)
Just like charcoal. Much like charcoal. The man is on fire.
Melissa
Man.
Aaron
That's all right. Give us another one. My brain's turning on.
Katie
We're warming up today. Yeah.
JPC (John Patrick Cohen)
Yeah. That one. Okay. Here's another one. This will help warm the rest of your brain completely over. My first is half of anything. My second is in itself complete and so remains until my first and second meet. What am I?
Holly
Is that describing the word or the object?
JPC (John Patrick Cohen)
My first.
Katie
Say it again.
JPC (John Patrick Cohen)
My first is half of anything. My second is in itself complete and so remains until my first and second meet. What am I? It's kind of describing the word. No. I guess it's more describing the Thing. It's more describing the thing than it is describing the word.
Melissa
Is it something like the moon?
Katie
I gotta be honest with you. You know when they look into Homer Simpson's brain, and it's just like a panda with symbols in black and white.
JPC (John Patrick Cohen)
Sure.
Katie
That's what's going on right now, gang.
Aaron
But the symbols are in your brain. Homer Simpson brain. And it's like that.
Katie
Yeah, exactly.
Aaron
It's a turducken.
Katie
It's a turducken of unoriginal comedy thoughts. Which is basically all I am at this point.
JPC (John Patrick Cohen)
Yeah, I'm more Simpsons quote than person.
Holly
You don't win friends with salad.
Katie
Exactly. Is it like a word?
Aaron
It's not the word thing, right?
JPC (John Patrick Cohen)
No, no. So my first is half of anything. It's not like half of anything is in. Like, you split that. No, it's describing a word that means half of anything, basically. It's a tough way to put it.
Holly
50%.
JPC (John Patrick Cohen)
Not 50%. This is a compound word. I would say the answer to this. So it's like my first is half of anything. My second is in itself complete. That's its own full word. Part
Aaron
wedge.
JPC (John Patrick Cohen)
No, I'm trying to think of. I'm honestly trying to think of a clue to give you. And I'm like, I've got Homer Simpson symbol brain. Trying to think of what clue could get you to this.
Aaron
I'm thinking of Katie thinking of Homer thinking.
Holly
Just to kind of clear out the cobwebs. What's everyone's favorite Simpsons quote? Just to get it out there.
Katie
The one that I say the most.
Holly
Yeah.
Katie
Well, it has changed now that it's the world cup. So now it's Arriaga, Bariaga, Arriaga ii, Arugula, and Soza. But it's the one I say the most. Is nuts to this. I'm going to the movies.
JPC (John Patrick Cohen)
The one that sticks with me the most is. I believe it's Chief Wiggum. And I probably will butcher it. Cause I'm not good at exact words, But I think snake is, like, escaping. And he goes, I'd rather watch a thousand guilty men run away than chase after them. I love that.
Aaron
That's awesome.
Holly
Mine used to be the where Milhouse's dad is like, I have a race car bed. Do you sleep in a race car? I sleep in a big bed. I do a big bed with my wife. That used to be it. But I think my all time favorite might be Lionel Hut's, where I think Marge is walking. And he goes, if you lived here, you'd be home now. Which I think is just great.
Melissa
I think that one all the time.
Aaron
The one I quote the most is I'm in danger. I think that lasted since childhood.
Melissa
What's mine, Katie?
Katie
Can I tell you what I think yours is? And I think it's a recent one. I think it's. And here come the pretzels.
Holly
Oh, at the free pretzel night.
Katie
Free pretzel night.
Aaron
Here come the pretzels.
JPC (John Patrick Cohen)
I was trying to think if any of those words you said would land on an answer here, but none of
Katie
you mentioned this, so it was a futile exercise.
Holly
Well, not quite, Katie, because I used that little exercise to Google the answer and what I found is. What I found is answer not found.
Aaron
No,
Katie
you stole Holly and I's little.
Melissa
Stole our cheek.
Katie
So it's a thing that means half.
JPC (John Patrick Cohen)
Yeah. So the second word is in itself complete. You would say that this comes full.
Holly
Fully cooked.
JPC (John Patrick Cohen)
Full circle, Aaron, Circle. So circle. So my first half of anything.
Katie
Semicircle.
JPC (John Patrick Cohen)
It's semicircle.
Aaron
Yeah.
Katie
I love that.
JPC (John Patrick Cohen)
We did it together and we did it together.
Aaron
Move on to the next one before I get mad and I will say
Katie
shout out to all those poor people listening to this who knew it right away and just were screaming Wheel of Fortune style at the.
Aaron
At their. And shout out to our rich listeners as well. We care about you. Not just the poor ones, the rich ones matter.
Holly
And for our middle class listeners, we're
Katie
sorry you're disappearing so quickly. It's tough.
JPC (John Patrick Cohen)
Sorry about the price of eggs and gas. Okay, here's your next one. We'll do one more. This will get you fully warmed up, then we'll take a break, you'll cool the fuck off and we'll be absolutely screwed for the second half of the show. I have neither bones nor spine, yet I can carry fire upon my head. What am I?
Holly
Prometheus, my dear sir.
JPC (John Patrick Cohen)
Torch is good. Prometheus is even better. I don't think you got it. It is Prometheus. Nope. Okay. It's not match and it's not torch, but let's see. Okay. Aaron. Yes, It's Candle.
Melissa
Yeah, Candle.
Aaron
Yes. Nice.
Katie
That's an odd riddle.
Melissa
Uh huh, yeah, that one was to me.
Katie
It's like a collection of facts, like. You know what I mean, that I
Holly
do want to see a scene. Oh, sorry, sorry, Go ahead. Aaron, did you call for one?
Aaron
Yeah, I bet you if you want.
Holly
Please go ahead.
Aaron
I would like to see a scene. Katie, you are a bed and breakfast owner and it's a very spooky kind of haunted bed and breakfast. And you greet your guests by like kind of old timey candlelight. And we'll have Adol and Holly be two people who are checking in.
Holly
Oh, wow.
Melissa
Oh, honey, this is wild. I'm already spooked out. I love being scared.
Holly
I know. This is. This is so fun. Fitting for October.
JPC (John Patrick Cohen)
Welcome.
Katie
Oh, hi.
Holly
My champagne flute exploded.
Katie
I know. I'm sorry. I will say I have the thing that RFK Jr. Has, so that's why I have the spasmodic diaphragm issue. So I'm not trying to be creepy. Welcome. Thank you.
Melissa
We're the Richard Hudson's. It's our honeymoon.
Katie
Oh, what a wonderful choice. Breakfast is at midnight.
Holly
Oh, no. That's gonna be an adjustment.
Katie
Yes, well, so is marriage.
Melissa
That's true. Honey, she doesn't have feet. Look at the bottom of her robe.
Katie
No. I'm glad you noticed.
Melissa
Oh, sorry.
Katie
So this is a shoes all off bed at breakfast.
Melissa
Oh, okay. Sorry. Here.
Holly
Oh, sorry, sorry, sorry. Tracking down.
Katie
There's coffee always available, but never the milk you want.
Melissa
Oh, no.
Holly
Oh, Daphne. Are you going to be okay?
Katie
Yeah, Daphne O.
Holly
She's sensitive about it.
Katie
What's my mother's name?
Aaron
Oh, really? Oh, my God.
Katie
Gosh, I never met her.
Holly
Oh, I'm sorry. Because you died. Or she died.
Katie
Oh, you'll find out when you check out on time at 11.
Holly
There's probably some wiggle room, right? Like if I call and say, can you push it back?
Katie
It depends on if we have more guests. Will you be consummating the marriage tonight?
Holly
I guess that depends on midnight breakfast.
Melissa
Yeah. Yeah, if we can. I don't want to get too full, you know, I mean.
Holly
Right.
Katie
I understand. Well, we also have a pool.
Melissa
Oh, wonderful.
Katie
Yes. It's not chlorinated.
Melissa
Oh, it's salt water. Even better. Wonderful. Well, I hear we have a heat wave coming, so that'll be nice.
Katie
Yes, but it never gets hot in here.
Melissa
Oh, wow. Earwigs came out when she coughed.
Aaron
Welcome to the Maplewood bnb. How can I help you guys? Who are you chatting with? Are you on the phone?
Katie
Oh.
Holly
Oh, we were just. Wait, where'd she go? Daphne. Where'd she.
Katie
I met my daughter.
Holly
What time is breakfast?
Aaron
Breakfast is at midnight. Checkout is 11am on the dot. There's no flexibility. And we do have a saltwater pool. Will you be consummating your marriage here tonight?
Holly
I do love a hotel being like. And will you be consummating your marriage?
JPC (John Patrick Cohen)
Why did the hotel ask us if we'd be consummating our marriage if they didn't do anything special. Like I said.
Katie
Yes, I would think it would be to let housekeeping know.
Aaron
Yeah, yeah, let the cleaning crew know. Right.
JPC (John Patrick Cohen)
Yeah.
Melissa
They'll need to come check the sheets and make sure.
JPC (John Patrick Cohen)
Check the.
Katie
Come check the.
Aaron
Yeah, check the cum.
Katie
Everyone.
JPC (John Patrick Cohen)
Check the cum.
Katie
Always leave a tip for your housekeeper when you go. Even if you didn't get housekeeping services, you have to.
Aaron
Even if you don't come.
Katie
Even if you don't come all over, even if you don't consummate your marriage, you can still. They still appreciate it.
Melissa
Yeah.
Aaron
Well, should we take a break?
JPC (John Patrick Cohen)
No, we shall not take a break because we have one more riddle and we're gonna do this riddle. I think this one's gonna be quick.
Katie
Okay.
JPC (John Patrick Cohen)
I can make oil boil. What am I?
Holly
Water the letter B.
JPC (John Patrick Cohen)
Speaking of Bs, we will be right back after this quick break.
Katie
I have to charge my computer.
JPC (John Patrick Cohen)
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Aaron
Hey guys. Can't talk long. A very crazy week. I've got about 60 seconds to hang out with you guys. I'm really on the go this time of the year.
JPC (John Patrick Cohen)
Okay, we don't have to talk. I just want to kind of spend our minute hanging out, cuddling, if everyone's cool with that.
Aaron
Yeah, I'll be the big spoon, as per usual. You know what's been helping me so much this week, guys? Having my Tempo meals. Tempo delivers fresh chef created dietitian approved meals right to your door.
Holly
Well, Aaron, sweetie, that's. And let me just snuggle in between here. That's the thing is with Tempo, each meal is perfectly portioned for lunch or dinner and ready in just two minutes. That means real food, real fast without, you know, like sad podcast studio lunch or like drive through regret.
JPC (John Patrick Cohen)
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Holly
Ow.
Aaron
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JPC (John Patrick Cohen)
Let me get my tiny fork. And that.
Holly
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Katie
Wow.
Holly
Don't say a word, Maria. But thanks for coming.
JPC (John Patrick Cohen)
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Holly
Even she swears by Tempo for balanced meals that help them stay on top of their wellness goals. Bye Maria. Thanks for stopping by.
JPC (John Patrick Cohen)
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Holly
Sharapova, you're snuggling us too. Don't say a word.
Aaron
Don't say a word. It's really nice to see you.
Holly
Don't say anything.
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Holly
Oh, sorry. I'm getting a call from Rocket Money.
JPC (John Patrick Cohen)
Yeah, no, take it. Yeah, take it, take it.
Holly
Unless. Did you.
JPC (John Patrick Cohen)
No.
Aaron
No.
JPC (John Patrick Cohen)
Sounds like an important call.
Holly
Oh, my God.
Aaron
Guys, I just got the best follow up from Rocket Money. They just canceled one of my subscriptions, and I didn't even have to do it. They did it for me.
JPC (John Patrick Cohen)
You guys talk about Rocket Money, the personal finance app that helps you find and cancel unwanted subscriptions, monitors your spending, and helps you lower your bills so you can grow your savings, Right? Yeah. Yes. I wish I was using Rocke Money. Wouldn't have to steal some ketchup from restaurants.
Holly
Oh, that's. Oh, I'm. I didn't realize. I can lend you money.
JPC (John Patrick Cohen)
Yeah, no, I mean, you don't have to do that. I would appreciate it. I mean, it's been tough times.
Holly
Yeah, I'm just a little flush right now because Rocket Money, like we said, can track subscriptions and has the ability to cancel unwanted ones within the app. With a few taps saving users over $880 million in canceled subscriptions.
Aaron
Ugh.
JPC (John Patrick Cohen)
That's a lot.
Holly
Not that I have 880 million, but let's just say I'm doing pretty well.
Aaron
I've been using Rocket Money way before they were even a sponsor of the show. It is so good for my brain. If you're like me and you're a little disorganized. It's all color coded. You can set up budgets for yourself. You can consolidate checking, savings, loans, and investments into a single dashboard to give yourself a clear view of your financial picture so you don't get surprised by anything. There's no little dark corners in your bank account anymore. You know exactly what's going on and exactly where your money's going.
JPC (John Patrick Cohen)
Well, Rocket Money also lets you use automated savings that grow towards goals with adjustable amounts and frequencies for a set it and forget it approach. So if I wanted 100 pounds of ketchup and 100 pounds of salt by tomorrow, all I have to do is, oh, save that much salt and ketchup. Okay.
Holly
Excuse me. It's me, the maitre d. I just wanted to confront you and say, let Rocket Money help you reach your financial goals faster. Join@RocketMoney.com Riddle that's RocketMoney.com Riddle RocketMoney.com Riddle
Aaron
JBC stole all this ketchup.
JPC (John Patrick Cohen)
Rocket Money. Leave your prosthetic hands at home, because you won't. You're going to have enough salt and ketchup at home that you don't need prosthetic hands at a restaurant. Rocket. Money. Goodness.
Holly
That is better. Myself.
JPC (John Patrick Cohen)
All right, we're back. And we're back with more riddles. Here's your next one. I am a word that means to be by oneself. And if you subtract two letters from me, I still have no company. What am I?
Aaron
I know it. But I'm gonna wait.
JPC (John Patrick Cohen)
Oh, Aaron.
Aaron
Because I think people can get it.
Katie
So it's a loan.
Holly
Yes, it's a loan. Take away two letters. Al. If your name is Al, you're probably divorced.
Melissa
Maybe.
JPC (John Patrick Cohen)
Was Al the neighbor on Home Improvement? No, that was Al Borland.
Holly
Yeah.
JPC (John Patrick Cohen)
Yes.
Holly
Right.
JPC (John Patrick Cohen)
No, Al Borlan was the fuck. He was the other guy. He was the. It doesn't make any sense.
Katie
So you guys are straight? Is what that conversation answered.
Holly
Katie, if I may. Rah, rah, rah, rah.
JPC (John Patrick Cohen)
Did the neighbor. Who's the neighbor without a face? That was on a different Tim Allen vehicle.
Holly
Was that still Home Improvement? We're combining two.
Aaron
No, that's the volleyball from that Tom
Katie
Hanks film and the fish song.
Aaron
Okay.
Katie
I'm also white. That came.
Aaron
Sounds like you're a straight guy.
Melissa
I know, right?
Katie
I always say it's very. It's a binary thing to say, but I'm. It's. It's a. It's a. The world is better that I was. That I'm a female. Because I would be Jay Cutler if I think. If I've been male, I have all those tendencies.
Melissa
But the only thing that keeps me
Aaron
from it is, you know, that's a T shirt.
Holly
That's a goddamn T shirt. I. I do not know if I get. I. Katie got the A answer, right? Correct. Alone.
JPC (John Patrick Cohen)
Yeah. Alone. Alone.
Holly
But what? Two letters? Oh, one. Oh, my God. Okay. I'm a doof.
JPC (John Patrick Cohen)
No, Al. I thought owl was a perfectly acceptable answer because most owls that I know.
Katie
Yeah, that was a much funnier answer.
Aaron
Have you guys watched Alone, the TV show?
Melissa
Yeah.
JPC (John Patrick Cohen)
No.
Katie
But I have had people tell me that it is compelling.
Aaron
I would give it a watch. You really are alone out there. And it's like a true surviving thing. Yeah.
Katie
Because it is like. They won't help you.
Melissa
No.
Katie
Right.
Holly
What's the premise? It's a reality show.
Aaron
Yeah.
Melissa
You're left alone. And whoever can survive the longest wins all the money. But you're left alone in the Arctic Circle. And you have to. You have nothing. You're allowed to bring eight items. You can have a fishing line, something to make fire with, a knife. It's like that.
Holly
Are people dying?
Aaron
Well, they lose, like, 80 pounds.
Katie
The producer, they will intervene, won't they? If it gets to a certain.
Melissa
If you're like. If your body fat gets to a certain thing, they pull you. And people have been like. People have been like, no, but you have to, like, build your shelter.
Holly
I do love going on and be like, what? Until I hit 135. Do not pull me till I hit 135.
Katie
Wait, 135 is also my goal weight.
Holly
That's same.
Melissa
Me too.
Katie
So funny.
Aaron
I'm a bridesmaid next month and I'm wearing a yellow dress, so do not
JPC (John Patrick Cohen)
pull me until my wife says if I get down to 135, she'll pull me. And I'm very much looking forward to.
Aaron
That alone is super stressful because, I mean, they're all survivalists. Like, they train for it forever.
Katie
Oh, so they're not just like me, they're like. They actually.
Melissa
This is what they're doing.
Holly
It's like a Bear Grylls type.
Katie
I see.
Aaron
They're passionate about it, but what's stressful is they will not tell you how many people are left in the game. So when you're like 80 days in, they're not telling you you have to outlive or outlive, outlast like five people or one person. So you just. You kind of just have to go for.
Holly
And what's the prize?
Melissa
It's like, not as much money as you would think. I think it's like 100 grand or something. Maybe 200 grand. It's, like, not what you would think for that.
Holly
For that amount of.
Melissa
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
JPC (John Patrick Cohen)
For 80 days of work. That's. I'm sorry, how much do you guys fucking make? That 200 grand isn't worth 80 days of work.
Aaron
That's killing a lot of squirrels. JPC.
JPC (John Patrick Cohen)
That's two and a half months.
Aaron
A lot of dead squirrels.
JPC (John Patrick Cohen)
My God.
Holly
No JPC. They get to eat 100 grand when they're done.
JPC (John Patrick Cohen)
Oh, even better. That's what it was.
Melissa
And it's delicious by that point.
Holly
One of my favorite things in the world is to watch. I watch every season of Survivor, and one of my favorite things is the food challenge. And I don't know what it is, but it's so satisfying to see them eat after they've been starved for, like, 30 days. Yeah, they'll Obviously it's a lot of sponsorship and bullshit, but to see them bite into, like, an Oreo. An Oreo, yes. And be like, oh, my, this is the best thing. And they're gushing for two minutes and you're like, this is. I don't know. For some reason, it really delights me.
JPC (John Patrick Cohen)
And you said this season they had Mr. Beast on, and he brought Mr. Beast's Feastables and nobody wanted them.
Holly
No, I said they had Mr. Bean
Aaron
on Mr. Bean's feast, and he brought
Melissa
a bunch of beans, and nobody would eat beans.
Holly
And his. To the camera alone footage was unusable.
JPC (John Patrick Cohen)
Well, nobody wants Mr. Bean's beans because he's so goddamn wacky. You can't trust that those beans are like, you know, clean beans.
Katie
I know this is not an original thought, as nothing is anymore, but Mr. Beast really has. You know when he smiles, how his. The top part of his face doesn't move. And so it's that uncanny. I think he's one of the scariest people out there. And I know he's listening, but I just.
Melissa
And you need to hear this, sir. You do need to hear this.
Aaron
Let this be a wake up call.
Katie
Why doesn't his upper face move? And it's not like a Botox situation.
Aaron
He's a mannequin that made a wish.
Katie
Oh, yeah, I think so.
Aaron
One of those classic situations. Mannequin made a wish, and now if
Holly
he was born a woman, he'd be Kim Cattrall.
Aaron
I wish I had been born a woman, because I would love to be Kim Cattrall.
Katie
Me too.
Holly
Katie, you have created my favorite new party game, which is, if you were born the opposite sex, who would you like? The Jay Cutler thing really belongs to me.
Katie
It makes sense, doesn't it?
Melissa
Yeah.
Katie
Cause you're like, oh, wow. Katie is a kind person who can function in the world. But if I had been a man, my parents wanted to name me Sean.
Aaron
Oh, yeah.
Katie
And so, like, Sean Rich.
Melissa
Oof.
Holly
Oh, yeah. That's a rough.
Katie
I would be. I wouldn't even be a cop. Like, I would have failed that. I'd be like a security guard at the Metro or something.
Aaron
You'd be punching holes in walls in Wrigleyville.
Katie
Yeah, but not as a job.
JPC (John Patrick Cohen)
It sounds. It sounds like a way to describe your, like, dirt bag friend. Be like, you know, like, sean just bought a Volvo. It's like he has that money now. He's like, sean Rich. But he's not. Like, he doesn't have money. Like,
Holly
and to all The Sean Poors listening.
Katie
We support you and Sean middle class. We know you don't exist anymore, man.
Melissa
This has kind of got me fucked up because I just did the exercise. I played it at home real quick. And honest to God, the thing that came to my mind when I said, if I was a male, who would I be? And the first thing that came to my mind. No shit. Was Shia LaBeouf.
Holly
Whoa, Holly, I think you cleared LaBeouf via.
Melissa
You can see that.
Katie
I can see that. And here's why. Because Holly is so wonderfully like, everything we call her a walking poem. And everything about her is just. The world is hard for her to bear because she's so sensitive and wonderful and such an artist. And I think if she was a straight white male, she wouldn't know where to put all that. Yeah, I would. So she would get in fights outside Walgreens.
Melissa
Yeah, it would be.
Katie
You know what I mean?
Aaron
Like.
Katie
Yeah, yeah.
Melissa
I feel like I would be this scrappy little, like. Like I'm picking a fight that doesn't need to be picked or something.
Katie
If I was a man, I think Shia LaBeouf is perfect. That's who you would be.
Holly
You're a little peanut butter falcon.
JPC (John Patrick Cohen)
There should be, like, a number on billboards that you could call if you feel like you might be Shia LaBeouf. Like, if you feel like you might be a LaBeouf.
Aaron
Yeah.
JPC (John Patrick Cohen)
If you're having LaBeouf esque urges, like, you should call a number and have, like, someone talk to you.
Aaron
I could be a funny child actor, but things have gone really off the rail.
Melissa
I've labeoufed. I've labeoufed.
Holly
I've labeoufed also.
Katie
That's not, like, that far away from your name. Holly Laurent. Shia LaBeouf.
JPC (John Patrick Cohen)
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Very French.
Katie
And it's so funny cause Holly is not. Holly's, like, from Elgin. Holly's from, like, a dumpster outside Elgin. So it's like. It's so funny that she has the most beautiful, fancy French name.
Melissa
Yeah.
Holly
Very eligent. I thought Elgin rhymed more with Elgin, but it doesn't.
Melissa
It didn't. It changed it.
Holly
Once you say it, it doesn'.
JPC (John Patrick Cohen)
I think it's fun how you guys think that you would have. You would be like a celebrity if you were born. You know, if I was born a woman, I feel like I would just be like a woman that we don't know.
Holly
Yeah, I'd be like a Marissa Sullivan.
JPC (John Patrick Cohen)
What's her problem?
Holly
From Santa Fe. You just have To. This is an exercise in trust. We all have to just trust.
Katie
I would like to hear Marissa Sullivan leaving a voicemail right now for. She got her turquoise jewelry came and it was broken. And she's calling the company.
JPC (John Patrick Cohen)
Okay, here we go.
Holly
Okay, this is. I know. Your office hours are now so interesting. You're not picking up. This is Marissa Sullivan again, and I will continue to call until my complaint is resolved. I spoke to Thomas at the Brick and Mortar, and I bought what I was told was a handcrafted turquoise tow ring, a ttr. Now my toe fit perfectly into it until the gout kicked in when I had my two boats of Twinkies. And yes, I'm a boats, not a log. Please call me back. I deserve compensation. I will be talking to a lawyer, my dad, if this is not resolved. Thank you for your time.
Aaron
Please leave a message after the beat.
Holly
Classic Marissa Sullivan.
Melissa
Hey, Marissa. Where's my pot pie?
Aaron
Um, I. Can I. This is vulnerable, but the impulse I had first of who I would be if I was a man. And this is. Maybe I need to examine this.
Katie
Sure.
Aaron
I thought Rivers, Cuomo. Is that the guy the Weezer leads there?
JPC (John Patrick Cohen)
Yeah, he's the guy from Weezer.
Katie
Yeah, I could see that.
Aaron
I was like, I would be wearing glasses. I'd be in a band.
Katie
Yeah.
Melissa
Yep, yep, yeah, yep.
JPC (John Patrick Cohen)
Very weird about women. Very into Japanese women. One leg is shorter than the other.
Aaron
Why do you know this?
JPC (John Patrick Cohen)
I know a lot of guys.
Holly
He's a Weezer head.
JPC (John Patrick Cohen)
I'm a Weezer head. I love that guy.
Katie
I do think that that's interesting. Yes. I think that you would be extremely odd.
Aaron
Yeah. Thank you.
Katie
And like, the things that. The oddness about you now is actually wonderful and works because of the gender that you identify as.
Aaron
Incredible. Katie, I think you have a career in this. I think that you could have a side hustle, really, where people reach out to you and they say, if I was the opposite, who would I be? And then you can sort of walk them through.
Katie
Please write in, I will do it. I would love to do it because I think it's really interesting. And, you know, a lot of the. For some people. Here's the scary part. They would be better people.
JPC (John Patrick Cohen)
Oh, yeah.
Katie
You know what I mean? Not always. But for some people, it's like, you might want to get in touch with that side of yourself, because.
Aaron
Can I think the fact that I think I would be worse gives me a little bit of empathy towards men, because I think a lot of the things that would be bad for me is because of society. I would just feel pressure to.
Katie
It would be a destructive. The way that you would express the things that you express now would be in a destructive way.
Aaron
Yes.
Holly
Yeah.
JPC (John Patrick Cohen)
When my Woke 3.0 agenda hits Congress, I am gonna mandate that it's only 3.0. It's 3.0 for now. Yes. Yeah, we're just on 3.0. I'm gonna mandate that people swap genders at least once in their life. Because I do think that there's, like an empathy building tool in there as well. So, I mean, yeah, I think it's. I changed my name when I was 20, and then I've lived, you know, 17 years with a different name. And it does kind of feel like two separate lives. Like you're living like two separate, you know, people. So I do think some mandatory swaps should be that.
Katie
Well, you have to also do a year in a service job.
JPC (John Patrick Cohen)
Yes.
Holly
Yes. I love it.
Melissa
Definitely.
Katie
Wait. Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Let's stop, stop, stop.
JPC (John Patrick Cohen)
Yeah, no, you're right. Wait. We are saying the same thing.
Aaron
Yeah.
Katie
The riddle is.
Holly
No.
Melissa
Well, it's sort of happening on smaller scales. I have several friends on hrt, like, in, like, perimenopause stuff where they're on testosterone for the first time in their life. Females who are now taking testosterone and they're like, like, whoa, I am horny, I am ambitious, and I'm like, dumb.
Aaron
Like, duh.
Katie
Isn't it wild that we're. That's all we are is just a collection of hormones and what gets released when. And like, that's all it is.
Melissa
And I'm hearing these women say, like, it gives me more compassion. I feel like I understand men more, like, having more testosterone in my system.
Katie
I've never heard the reverse. We can, like, pump Adolf soy milk and see if.
Aaron
See what happens. See how many times he call that place the. There's a really great. This American life from like 20 years ago about testosterone. And there's people who are.
JPC (John Patrick Cohen)
Men are poisoned. Women are venom.
Aaron
Is that what it's. That's the book that you wrote using mostly AI that came out this week.
JPC (John Patrick Cohen)
All right, hold on. Let's do another riddle. Let's do another riddle.
Melissa
I want to know who Adel's female. Who is the female adult?
Katie
It's Melissa Sullivan.
Holly
It's Marissa Sullivan from Santa Fe. But I will say I did think about it, and I didn't want to say it because I'm embarrassed to be like, I'm punching way above my weight class. But my first thought was Geena Davis. Who? I mean, if I could just be one tenth of Geena Davis, I think I'd be thrilled.
Katie
Yeah, I gotta think about that one. That's interesting.
JPC (John Patrick Cohen)
If Adol gets to be.
Katie
Why you said that.
Melissa
I do too.
JPC (John Patrick Cohen)
If adult gets to be, I want to be Jennifer Coolidge. That's just who I want to be.
Aaron
Yeah, right.
Katie
But you're not definitely. This isn't who you want to be. It's who you would be. It's the anima and animus of you. It's not just like. Yeah, I mean, I would like to be. There's a lot of guys I'd like to be. But no, Geena Davis is very interesting to me.
Aaron
I could picture you in Stuart Little.
Melissa
Aw.
Aaron
I could picture you in that movie.
Melissa
And League of the Ride. There's a vibe to you.
Katie
There's a softness to you that also is a softness to her.
Melissa
Her dimples. You are her dimples.
JPC (John Patrick Cohen)
You are her dimples.
Holly
Thank you.
Katie
But she's like a next level genius,
Holly
and she's a badass, which is why I'm like. I'm not like her, but I think I aspire to be her.
Katie
I see it.
Holly
So that's why. That's why I was saying.
Aaron
Yeah, I see it.
Melissa
And she's tall like you, Katie.
Katie
She's taller than me.
Melissa
How tall is she?
JPC (John Patrick Cohen)
Wow.
Katie
I think she's like a legit six feet. She's taller than me.
Melissa
My friend Eric Edelston in Los Angeles just shot a movie with her, and she was supposed to, like. She was supposed to. To kick, like, turn sideways and do one of those kind of like, you know, like karate kicks in his face. And she was supposed to kick, you know, within a foot of his face, but not kick his face. And they set up the shot wrong. And she kicked him directly in the face. And.
Aaron
And not many men say they've kicked
Melissa
in the face by Gina Davis. And Eric Edelson's wife got the frame and framed it. And it's a picture of him, like, with his, like,
Holly
Holly. Not only a fantastic story, I'm also dying to know what this movie is. Geena Davis is throwing out sidekicks.
Katie
Look it up.
Melissa
Geena Davis, Eric Edelson movie. See what it says?
JPC (John Patrick Cohen)
Face, kick, face, kick, face plus kick plus movie. I'd get into this machine that changes your gender, and I'd, like, come in and then I'd get popped out as, like, Matt LeBlanc.
Katie
And I'd be like, oh, no, what does that mean?
JPC (John Patrick Cohen)
The machine didn't work. No, it doesn't not work. It always work. Whatever you are, It's. Hey, man, take it up with the guy who made the machine.
Katie
Or girl.
JPC (John Patrick Cohen)
Or girl.
Katie
Wow.
Aaron
The doctor was the mother, famously, on this show.
JPC (John Patrick Cohen)
All right, wait, hold on now. We have to do another riddle. This is the show. This is the goddamn show.
Katie
I'm sorry, okay?
JPC (John Patrick Cohen)
No, I'm sorry.
Holly
No, I'm sorry.
Melissa
No, I'm sorry.
JPC (John Patrick Cohen)
Apology accepted.
Katie
You know what? I'm not sorry. Cause Jay Cutler would not be sorry. He would say, I don't care, and he would be like, this sucks.
Melissa
Shia not sorry either. Shy and not sorry.
Holly
Georgina Davis would try to beat her sister in the women's baseball.
Aaron
The thing that really makes me know it's true. Katie, spiritually, you would be married to that woman from the. What's her name? Kristen.
Katie
Although they're now divorced.
Aaron
See, but that classic you. You would marry and divorce Kristin Cavalieri for sure. I feel that on every timeline, she's your wife and then not your wife.
JPC (John Patrick Cohen)
That's like a time traveler's. What's the movie with the time traveler situation? It doesn't matter. Here's your next riddle. I can be quick and then I'm deadly. I am a rock, shell and bone medley. If I was made into a man. Hey, how about that?
Melissa
Whoa.
JPC (John Patrick Cohen)
Kind of germane to our whole thing here. I'd make people dream I gather in millions by ocean see and stream what am I?
Holly
Sandman.
JPC (John Patrick Cohen)
It's sands.
Katie
Sand.
Holly
Maybe the best intro to a song of all time. Where it sounds like he's stalling. Where it's like. Like looking around the room, being like, what am I?
Katie
I don't know what to sing about.
Aaron
Keep it going. Keep it going.
Holly
Someone points to an hourglass Sam. Man.
Aaron
He brings me a drink.
Holly
Did you say Dr. Yeah.
JPC (John Patrick Cohen)
Dream.
Holly
Yeah. Yeah.
JPC (John Patrick Cohen)
Okay, we'll do another. Here's your next one. Without a bridle or a saddle. Across a thing I ride a straddle and those I ride by help of me though almost blind are made to see what am I?
Holly
What the fuck?
Aaron
Glasses.
JPC (John Patrick Cohen)
It's glasses. Eyeglasses.
Holly
The version. Like it sits across your nose. Yeah, the nose is the. Yeah, okay. The horsemen in the face.
JPC (John Patrick Cohen)
Adol and Aaron are like, oh, I get it. And both Katie and Holly are just. They look upset.
Aaron
No, but that's fair. They're having the correct reaction, I think.
Katie
Yeah, I'm sorry. I shouldn't be judgmental.
Holly
I do want to see a scene.
JPC (John Patrick Cohen)
Why not?
Katie
I don't want to.
JPC (John Patrick Cohen)
Okay.
Holly
I'd like to see a scene. Holly, you are at the optometrist getting your eyes checked and new pair of glasses. Jpc. You are the optometrist, and you keep using sort of animal or whatever other type of analogies for glasses and eyesight that just don't kind of necessarily get used a lot in these circumstances.
Melissa
How about these? Do you like me in a heavier frame, or should I be in something a little more delicate?
JPC (John Patrick Cohen)
Well, I mean, honestly, the frame is not as important as the prescription.
Melissa
That's right.
JPC (John Patrick Cohen)
The frame is really a you choice. I can obviously give an opinion, but it's not a medical opinion. But I will say you have wolf's eyes, so a frame like this is. It's gonna draw attention away from those eyes.
Melissa
It's so wild that you say that, because I was once in a cacao ceremony, drum circle, ecstatic dance night, where a shaman led us through a mental exercise where he said, an animal is walking up to you. And do you know what was walking up to me? A gray wolf.
JPC (John Patrick Cohen)
Oh, wolf.
Melissa
And it looked me in the eyes, and I knew somehow that I was the wolf and the wolf was me. And I know everyone would want to be like a mustang, you know, if you have, you know, some kind of, like, animal side of you. But wild horse, Evidently, I'm a wolf. And you saw that. I feel seen, and I see.
JPC (John Patrick Cohen)
Well, I see lots of eyes. It's kind of a. It's. Well, the part where I know what animal's eyes you have is more of a quirk unique to me. It's not really a professional thing, and it's not.
Melissa
You are quirky and you smell of eucalyptus. This office smells fresh. I appreciate that.
JPC (John Patrick Cohen)
I went through a car wash this morning, and all of my windows, I thought that they were up, but I just got them tinted, so it looks the exact same to me. So that could be the smell that you're seeing.
Melissa
So you got car washed?
JPC (John Patrick Cohen)
I did, yeah. A little bit. Just on the back.
Katie
Wow.
JPC (John Patrick Cohen)
Yeah, it was the back windows, so. But yeah, I mean, obviously. And if I'm being quite honest, you don't need glasses.
Melissa
Really?
JPC (John Patrick Cohen)
You don't need glasses at all. I really. I almost never say this, but you're familiar with the concept of 2020 vision, right?
Melissa
Well, sure.
JPC (John Patrick Cohen)
You see things that are 20ft away as 20ft away.
Melissa
Oh, I did not know that's what it meant, but I like it.
JPC (John Patrick Cohen)
That's what 2020 vision means. Your vision is more like 1 20.
Melissa
Okay.
JPC (John Patrick Cohen)
Yes.
Katie
Welcome. To the bed and breakfast. Just so you know, our breakfast is at midnight and our checkout time is at 11am we do have a saltwater pool. And will you be consummating the marriage today?
Melissa
Yes. My doctor and I are not married. This is an illicit affair. We've run from the office. We've run from the office because what started as a simple prescription for me to just get some progressive lenses has turned to love.
Aaron
You look outside and they hit every telephone pole on the way there. Because she definitely needed glasses.
Katie
We are going to have to charge you for that. Yeah. So we will need a credit card for incidentals. And by incidentals, I mean the whole facade of the building.
JPC (John Patrick Cohen)
Yeah, we can use my credit card.
Melissa
Well, there is going to be a lot of cum on the sheets, but we're going to leave a big tip.
Katie
Thank you.
Melissa
A lot of cash.
JPC (John Patrick Cohen)
And I just say you have mustang eyes.
Katie
Oh, my father was a Mustang.
Aaron
I love that you said thank you to the come and not the money, too. They need to come in the sheets. Thank you. And we're going to leave money for it. Thank you.
Katie
Sometimes a callback works and sometimes it doesn't. And that might be one of the times where it didn't. But, you know, I just. It's. You have to try it. You have to have fun with your goddamns and Katie.
Holly
Jim Croce. My father was a Mustang. Jim Croce.
Katie
The car.
Aaron
The car, by the way, not the horse.
Katie
I'd actually like to.
JPC (John Patrick Cohen)
Jay. It was a tough game out there. It was a hard game. How do you feel? You know, sometimes you just have to have fun with your friends out there. Sometimes come backwards.
Katie
Also, it's tough to play football when your dick's so big. Usually that's what gets in the way. It's my big dick.
Melissa
I'm out of balance.
Holly
I love Holly's character at a Shaman Circle and staring out in the wilderness and being like, oh, a gray wolf. And it's just like a stump or something like that. Like, clearly just 120 vision network.
Aaron
I would like to see another scene, actually. Is that crazy?
Katie
Yeah, please.
Aaron
Okay. Katie, you are a woman who wears glasses. Holly, I would love for you to play those glasses, but you're getting a little old. Like, the glasses are not working as well. And Katie, you're gonna kind of let your glasses down gently. That you're gonna have to buy a new pair.
Melissa
This slot machine. This slot machine seems a little grimy. Is it me?
Katie
It might be you. It might be you. Yeah. But I just wanted to. I wanted to say how much I've appreciated all you've done for me and for the world, really. For my world. Yeah, it's been really helpful. Oh, it's nothing. But you know how sometimes they put things out to pasture.
Melissa
Yeah. I mean, it always happens. Yeah. That's what happens to women over 40 in Hollywood. I've read all the articles.
Katie
Yeah, read. We've read those articles. And. Yeah. And so let's. Let's think of you as a Julianne Moore type in that. You're very pretty. You're very pretty.
Aaron
Yeah.
Katie
And you have. You will continue to have a purpose, but it's not going to be the same one that it was.
Melissa
We liked her in Big Lebowski.
Katie
Loved her.
Melissa
We. That was fun. That was fun. She's the one who taught us that if you want to get pregnant, you got to put your knees up after sex.
Katie
Yep. Yes, she did teach us that.
Melissa
Yeah. You kind of. Kind of make it like your vagina is a Runway and on a cliff's face, and, you know, it kind of has to, like, so that the airplane can shoot right up there and land. Julianne Moore has been in a lot of movies.
Katie
A lot of movies. We've seen a lot of movies with her. And I think. I think, you know, the thing about you, what you've always helped me do, is not just see what's in front of me, but see what's going on beyond that, you know? And I think you're gonna really help someone else do that. Do you see what I'm saying?
Melissa
Oh, like, I'll become some, like, prop glasses, maybe, that get discarded in a green room, you know, get used in multiple sketch shows for years on end.
Katie
And how fun would that be?
Melissa
That would be really fun. Until the building sells and it becomes, like, a hotel block. And then, you know, what'll become of me?
Katie
Well, here's the thing. You're a collective.
Melissa
Yeah.
Katie
You're never alone because you're. You're with. You know, your. Your glasses. You're plural. And so no matter where you go, you will have someone with you, which is, I guess, you. I've never talked to the other glass.
Melissa
Yeah, well, the other glass has been mute since Inception.
Katie
Remember Inception? Since the movie Inception.
Melissa
That was a theme.
Aaron
Oh, my God. I had a pair of glasses in a sketch show, and then I was watching another sketch show two years later, and I was like.
Katie
Like, are those my glasses?
Melissa
Those are my glasses.
Katie
It's so purple frame. Yeah.
Melissa
It's the fate of every green room.
Holly
Y. Holly, your vagina is a Runway John Mayer.
Melissa
It's right.
Katie
That's a.
Melissa
That's an old, deep cut bubble gum tongue.
JPC (John Patrick Cohen)
That's what John Mayer said.
Katie
That's what. Where is he? He's been quiet. He's been too quiet.
Holly
He's been really quiet.
Katie
I don't love that.
Holly
Yeah, yeah, check. He gets quiet, we get nervous.
Katie
Yeah, right? Yeah.
Melissa
And I know he's listening, but I would rather be Shia LaBeouf than John Mayer.
Katie
Yeah, say that.
Melissa
And that's.
Aaron
I agree.
Katie
Gpc. Maybe you. If you. You would be a. You would be Jonah Mayer. Like, what's a Joanna Mayer, Jonah?
JPC (John Patrick Cohen)
I go into the machine and it gives me the same gender but a knockoff John Mayer. I'm like, what the fuck is wrong with the machine?
Katie
Definitely not the right machine.
Holly
Yeah, it does seem like. From the creators of Juana, White Girls like Joanna Mayer, sir.
JPC (John Patrick Cohen)
Sometimes the machine malfunctions if people try to have sex with the machine while they're in the machine. Did you try to have sex with the machine in the machine?
Aaron
I left a tip.
Melissa
That's all that matters.
JPC (John Patrick Cohen)
Katie and Holly, the podcast is Soccer Moms. You can get it anywhere. You get podcasts, I'm assuming.
Melissa
Yeah.
Katie
Every Tuesday, there's a new app.
Melissa
Yeah.
JPC (John Patrick Cohen)
Very fun, Very cool. So, yeah, please do listen to Soccer Moms. Do you two have anything else that you would like to plug at this time?
Melissa
Well, you can follow us at bffsoccermoms on the instalk. And yeah, stay tuned because we have some very fun guests coming up. Y' all three being three of them.
Katie
Y' all three being three of them. And please don't forget, I know it's been out for a long time, but it won't hurt to watch Harley Quinn Season 5 now streaming on HBO Max. It definitely won't hurt. It won't hurt anything. And maybe write letters and say things on the Internet about how much you like it.
JPC (John Patrick Cohen)
That can't hurt. Adol, Aaron, anything for you guys to plug.
Aaron
I got nothing.
Holly
I got nothing.
JPC (John Patrick Cohen)
Yeah, I got nothing.
Holly
Soccer moms and Harley Quinn and Kite Man.
Katie
Oh, yeah, Kite Man.
JPC (John Patrick Cohen)
And the idea. And the idea of hot dogs.
Aaron
Oh, God, I hate the soundboard. Just me saying hot dogs.
JPC (John Patrick Cohen)
Starring Aaron Koenig and John Patrick Cohen.
Holly
Casey.
JPC (John Patrick Cohen)
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Aaron
That was a Headgum Podcast hi, I am Mandy Moore.
Holly
Sterling K. Brown and I'm Chris Sullivan
JPC (John Patrick Cohen)
and we host the podcast that was Us now on Headgum.
Katie
Each episode we're gonna go into a
Aaron
deep dive from our show.
Melissa
This is us.
Holly
That's right.
Katie
We're gonna go episode by episode. We're also pepper in episodes with different guest stars and writers and casting directors.
Holly
Are we gonna cry?
JPC (John Patrick Cohen)
Yes, a little bit. Are we gonna laugh a lot? A whole lot.
Holly
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Holly
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Release Date: July 15, 2026
Guests: Katie Rich & Holly Laurent
Main Hosts: Adal Rifai, Erin Keif, John Patrick Coan (JPC)
Podcast Theme: Comedic improv and riffing loosely guided by riddles and puzzles.
This episode brings together the comedic duo Katie Rich and Holly Laurent, creators of the comedy podcast "Soccer Moms," joining the Hey Riddle Riddle crew for a chaotic riddle-solving session. With the usual blend of off-the-rails improv, Chicago improv nostalgia, pop culture tangents, riddle-solving, and deep-dive bits, the group reflects on friendship, their improv roots, gender, and the absurdities of everyday life.
Improv breaks are central to the show, inspired either directly by a riddle or a stray comment:
The cast shares their most-quoted Simpsons bits, using it as an excuse to distract from tackling a tough riddle.
The cast muses on which celebrity they would be if born the opposite gender:
Reflections on empathy, hormones, and the idea that gender swap should be mandatory for understanding perspectives—a recurring thread that’s thoughtful amidst the comedy.
- Quote (JPC, 54:21): “When my Woke 3.0 agenda hits Congress, I am gonna mandate that people swap genders at least once…there’s an empathy-building tool in there…”
| Riddle | Solution | Solver(s) | Memorable Notes | Timestamp | |------------------------------------------------------------|---------------|--------------------|-----------------------------------------|------------| | When is your uncle's sister not your aunt? | Your mom | Holly | Launches Jack Nicholson/SW tangent | 15:31 | | What is black when new, red when in use, gray discarded? | Charcoal | Holly | | 23:20 | | My first is half of anything, my second in itself complete | Semicircle | Group (prompted) | “Homer’s brain”/Simpsons riff | 28:11 | | Bones nor spine, but carries fire on head? | Candle | Aaron & Melissa | Candle debate → haunted BnB scene | 29:15 | | I can make oil boil—what am I? | The letter B | Holly | “Speaking of Bs”— segues to break | 33:54 | | A word meaning by oneself, subtract 2 letters, still alone | Alone | Katie | “Al” sidebar → Alone TV riff | 42:42–44:00| | I can be quick & deadly, rock/shell/bone medley... | Sand (“Sandman”)| Holly/Katie | “Enter Sandman” musical riff | 60:24 | | Without bridle/saddle, I ride a-straddle, help blind see | Glasses | Aaron | Eyeglasses, prompts optometrist scene | 61:17 |
On cheating at riddles:
Katie (05:50): “If there’s anything we’re good at, it’s not doing the job, but working hard to help us not do the job.”
On post-Covid riddling skills:
Melissa (14:09): “I started acting like my microphone wasn’t working so that you would think that was why I didn’t ever have any answers.”
On friendship & creative collaboration:
Katie (08:11): “We haven’t been able to live in the same city for a while…so we created Soccer Moms so we could be together and not have to act too much.”
On celebrity gender-swapping by personality:
Katie (48:17): “If I was a man, I think Shia LaBeouf is perfect—that’s who [Holly] would be.”
Holly (54:19): “I do think my oddness would become destructive if I were a guy.”
On empathy and gender:
Katie (53:38): “Write in, I’ll do it—if you tell me your vibe, I’ll tell you your opposite gender celebrity!”
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