#418: Catcel Culture w/ Josh Gondelman

Summary

Hey Riddle Riddle #418: "Catcel Culture" w/ Josh Gondelman

Date: July 22, 2026
Guests: Josh Gondelman
Hosts: Adal Rifai, Erin Keif, John Patrick Coan (JPC)

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Episode Overview

This lively episode welcomes comedian and writer Josh Gondelman back for a riddle-packed improv spectacle. The core trio and Josh dive into inventive wordplay, classic improv scenes, offbeat personal stories (from karaoke adventures to Boston sports fandom), and a slew of whimsical “couple” riddles submitted by a listener. True to form, the episode’s actual riddles are only a springboard for tangents about childhood memories, pop culture references, and comic banter about everything from raccoon obstacle courses to the darkness of old children’s tales.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Neighborhood Banter & Special Guest Welcome

• The group opens with a playful fictional bit about being neighbors, ragging on each other's lawns, hosting raccoon obstacle courses, and swapping neighborly jabs.
• Josh Gondelman is enthusiastically introduced, praised for his warmth and comedic skill.
  • (05:04, Aaron): “...it’s always such a pleasure to have you here, and it’s also such a pleasure to know you... you might be the nicest person I’ve met doing comedy besides Adeline.”

2. Karaoke as Self-Care and Social Adventure

• Josh shares his unorthodox approach to karaoke: squeezing in a session between other plans at a festival (07:24, Josh):
  • “I’d never done a thing like that before...we hadn’t had anything to drink, and there was a karaoke place right across the street from the hotel...we just went for an hour and ripped it.”
• Erin, JPC, and Casey discuss their own karaoke rituals, including “bad songs, great at karaoke,” quirky family traditions (like Casey's mom singing the Jardiance commercial), and the joys of odd song selections.

Notable Quote (12:15, Josh Gondelman):
“My friend Jaya Saxena innovated this: closing the night with a full room performance of ‘It’s All Coming Back to Me Now’ by Celine Dion. It’s such a long song and it’s so dynamic...you end up just like grabbing your chest and going ‘baby, baby, baby’.”

3. On the Origins and Oddities of Grease

• Casey shares a tale about meeting Jim Jacobs, co-writer of "Grease," noting how the original stage version was far darker and weirder than the hit musical.
  • Discussion ensues about “ooky cookie” and zip guns in the story, and surprising facts about iconic movies thought to be lighthearted, like "Fast Times at Ridgemont High".

4. Riddle Segment: "Couple Riddles"

• Listener Alex Demetrius submits riddles where each answer is a familiar pairing (i.e., apples and oranges, jack and jill, rain and shine).
• The hosts stumble through pronouncing Alex’s last name, leading to a recurring bit about “having fun with it,” and running voiceover gags.

Sample Pairing Riddle Round:

• Example Riddle (22:02): “We are citrusy, covered in skin, and cannot be compared.”
  Answer: Apples and Oranges
• Example Riddle (40:46): “We’re Russian, litigious, and are unjust when separated.”
  Answer: Crime and Punishment

(22:05, Aaron): “That’s a great—this is a good example actually...I’d like to see a scene...Josh, you be an apple, and JPC, you be an orange.”

5. Improv Scenes Inspired by Riddles

• Each riddle often spins into an unscripted improv scene, keeping the energy and laughs high (e.g., apples and oranges as roommates; the wolf from "Three Little Pigs" as a retiring real-estate developer).
• Over-the-top characters include: Aspen the Sex Clown for 8th-grade sex-ed, bickering fairy tale creatures, and French stereotypes.

6. Sports, Childhood, and Boston/New York Rivalry

• Josh and Aaron chat about the emotional rollercoaster of Boston Red Sox fandom, the mood in New York after major NBA events, and run-ins with unapologetically brash New Yorkers.
• Josh tells a story about being cussed out by an old lady in NYC:

  (53:11, Josh): “I was crossing the street towards her and just went, ‘Good morning,’ and she goes, ‘Who the fuck are you?’... It made me laugh so much...it was great. It was like, such a perfect experience. Lesson learned."

7. Pop Culture, Father Time, and Generational Gaps

• Rapid-fire asides cover: Daft Punk, Celine Dion, childhood karaoke, Patrick Stewart impressions, and questionable movie choices (Brad Pitt in "Meet Joe Black" with a problematic accent).
• The gang riff on fairy tale canon, considering crossovers between Little Red Riding Hood, Three Little Pigs, and Jack and Jill, culminating in a “French wolf” sketch.

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Memorable Quotes & Moments

• On karaoke habits: (09:39, Josh)
  “I've really settled into a groove lately with songs that nobody wants to hear... I'll do Dr. Worm by They Might Be Giants...it is a song that if you are not in the right room, people are like, that's not a song.”

• On sibling dynamics and fairy tales: (43:46, Josh as Jack)
  “Why did you bring apology flowers if—if that didn't happen?”

• On Boston/New York rivalry: (49:40, Josh Gondelman)
  “It kind of started with them sweeping the Yankees, and while they were still in last place...it still brought me great joy to see.”

• On NYC street encounter: (53:11, Josh Gondelman)
  “Good morning.’ And she goes, ‘Who the fuck are you?’”

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Important Segment Timestamps

• 05:00 — Josh Gondelman enters, praised by hosts.
• 07:24 — Josh's karaoke story and their discussion of karaoke habits.
• 15:06 — Casey reveals dark original script details about "Grease".
• 17:27 & 22:02 — Beginning of “couple riddles” and first improv scene.
• 26:20 — Aspen the Sex Clown improv scene (sex-ed in grade school).
• 40:46 — More couple riddles ("Crime & Punishment", "Jack & Jill", "Daft Punk").
• 49:40 — Boston Red Sox emotional rollercoaster.
• 53:11 — Josh's “who the fuck are you?” New York City story.
• 64:00 — Deep dive on the origins of fairy tales and more improv.

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Closing Plugs & Promotions (65:46+)

• Josh Gondelman:

  • New stand-up special "Positive Reinforcement" (YouTube, Blonde Medicine Records)
  • Weekly newsletter "That’s Marvelous"
  • Fall tour dates in Cambridge, Dallas, Houston, San Diego, Phoenix, Cleveland, Pittsburgh, Raleigh

• Hosts:

  • Hello from the Magic Tavern & Patreon
  • Quality Time live LA variety show (themes like “rats”)
  • Tease: Josh to guest on “Gum, Shoes and Dragons” upcoming episode

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Summary Table of Riddles Featured

| Clues | Answer | Timestamp | |-------------------------------------------------------------------------------|-----------------------|-----------| | Citrus, covered in skin, cannot be compared | Apples and Oranges | 22:02 | | Fuzzy, fall from sky, help those in need | Raining Cats and Dogs | 31:48 | | Russian, litigious, unjust when separate | Crime and Punishment | 40:46 | | Clumsy, thirsty, crowned | Jack and Jill | 41:15 | | Builders of rainbows, oath of the post, inevitable when contrasted | Rain and Shine | 57:22 | | Motion of boats, found in garages, together we are rebels | Rock and Roll | 57:44 | | Comparable to gold, both grains of sand, tend to push it | Salt and Pepper | 58:03 | | Aged, French, pungent | Wine and Cheese | 58:31 | | French, insult to children, both have been around the world | Daft and Punk | 58:52 | | Favored in the morning, often craved in evening, pay to stay the night | Bed and Breakfast | 59:18 | | Fried, British, bits | Fish and Chips | 59:33 | | Wolf's weapon, winds splattered, impotently against brick | Huff and Puff | 60:08 |

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Tone & Style

Casual, playful, improv-heavy, riffing between sharp wordplay and loving mockery. The podcast feels like hanging out with witty comedians who can’t resist a tangent or a callback (and rarely resist making a silly voice).

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For New Listeners: Why Listen?

• Enjoy inventive word games and riddles, but expect the banter to gleefully spiral into absurd, joke-rich tangents.
• The chemistry among the hosts plus Gondelman’s warmth and quick wit create a non-stop flow of laughter.
• A goldmine of pop culture references, personal anecdotes, and improv character work.

If you want riddles, you’ll get them, but you’ll love the ride!

Transcript

[Aaron]

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[Adeline]

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[Casey]

Great. You guys are all good. Have fun. Thank you, Kasey.

[JPC]

Thank you. Casey, we love you.

[Casey]

We love you, Casey.

[Josh Gondelman]

We love you, Casey.

[Casey]

You have fun.

[Aaron]

Casey too.

[Casey]

You have fun.

[Aaron]

He didn't say it back. It was a heart. That's not the same thing.

[JPC]

He never does.

[Casey]

I really like you guys so much.

[Aaron]

Terrible.

[Josh Gondelman]

Sounds like we're more into Casey than Casey's into us.

[JPC]

Exactly what it sounds like.

[Casey]

Slams the door in our face. Okay. We walked him home for nothing.

[Aaron]

Not even a nightcap. Unbelievable.

[JPC]

He stood on a block of ice. Both of them were goldfish. It was the cat addon of an airplane. He dabbed him with an ice.

[Aaron]

Adel, your lawn is looking fantastic.

[Casey]

Oh, thank you. Thank you. Yeah, I decided to kind of care this year about my curb appeal.

[Aaron]

It looks great. JPC is my neighbor on the other side and he's doing all sorts of stuff that I feel like the HOA is not going to be too happy about.

[Casey]

Yeah, yeah, I have, you know, obviously I have my 100 foot skeleton up year round, which I love the summer

[Aaron]

sun hat on him. He looks dashing.

[Casey]

Yeah, Etsy has so many fun ways to dress up your hundred foot.

[JPC]

You guys talk about lawns?

[Casey]

Oh, hey, neighbor.

[Aaron]

Hi, tpc.

[JPC]

You like my gasoline lawn?

[Casey]

Yeah, the smell is interesting.

[JPC]

It's. Yeah. You got a good nose on you. That's straight gasoline, my friend.

[Aaron]

Yeah. I wonder if, like the fire pit in the middle of it is wise.

[JPC]

Interesting. I wouldn't know if a fire pit could be wise. You know, Dangerous, yes, but wise. Not really the quality I would imbue with a fire pit.

[Casey]

But can I ask about the sort of American ninja course for raccoons you have going on? Well, a lot of them are drowning.

[JPC]

I'm glad you brought that up.

[Aaron]

I'd say most, if not all of them are Drowning.

[JPC]

This is not for American raccoons. They're too clever for me. I have to import these raccoons.

[Aaron]

Did you know that the raccoon warrior

[JPC]

is the only North American marsupial?

[Aaron]

That's not true.

[Casey]

Aren't possums.

[Adeline]

Huh?

[Casey]

Aren't possums. Jpc. Aren't possums.

[JPC]

Aren't possums.

[Adeline]

Jpc.

[JPC]

Well, you and my wife have a very similar excuse.

[Aaron]

Well, have a good one. Oh, my God.

[Casey]

Well, we'll see you Adol.

[Aaron]

Please tell me you have a better neighbor on the other side of you.

[Casey]

It's actually cpj. Sort of a. Sort of an inverse jpc I don't have.

[JPC]

I got Josh Gondelman on my side, though.

[Casey]

Aw, lucky. God damn it. Hey, Josh. Josh Guidelman.

[Josh Gondelman]

Hey, guys. How's it going?

[Casey]

Good. Oh, my gosh. Would you. Damn it, Aaron. We gotta get him to move on the side of one of our houses.

[JPC]

Yeah.

[Casey]

Josh, are you willing to move?

[Josh Gondelman]

Yeah, I love to move. I like to move it. I love to move it. I'm willing to move it.

[Aaron]

JPC is going to make him run his raccoon course before he gets to the side of the street, though.

[Josh Gondelman]

I was just thinking, jpc, that's so many dead raccoons. I can't keep up with that. I can't compete.

[JPC]

Yeah, neither could they. That's kind of the whole problem. Lazy bastards.

[Aaron]

Oh, man.

[JPC]

Welcome to hey Riddle Riddle, everybody. This is the podcast where we do riddles. As always, our guest is Josh Gondelman. Josh, this is your second, third, third or third?

[Josh Gondelman]

I think my third riddle. Yeah.

[JPC]

Wow.

[Josh Gondelman]

First riddle. Crushed.

[Aaron]

Josh, it's always such a pleasure to have you here, and it's also such a pleasure to know you and to run out into you in the world. I'm trying not to be hyperbolic here, but you might be the nicest person I've met doing comedy besides Adeline.

[Josh Gondelman]

Jpc, that's really kind. I feel the same way. We had such a good time on that boat.

[Aaron]

We did. We did a Joco cruise together. And then, Josh, I did want to talk to you about something that we talked about at San Francisco Sketchfest this year.

[JPC]

Is this a performance review?

[Aaron]

This? A little bit. Josh let me was talking about his day. I think we saw each other on a Saturday night.

[JPC]

Okay.

[Aaron]

And kind of in the middle of your day, I guess it was early evening, you, in between your tasks, went to karaoke.

[Josh Gondelman]

Oh, yeah. Whoa.

[Aaron]

Yes. I've never heard anything like it. It kind of broke my brain. I didn't realize that you could sort of just drop into karaoke as an in between thing we did.

[Josh Gondelman]

So. So I was in San Francisco at Sketchfest, which I love, running, co hosting our regular semi regular show, Sup, bro? With my friend Alison Leiby, who. Her book just came out. She's a genius. Great friend, great writer and comedian. And we had dinner, and dinner ended so fast. We went to this place that's totally fine, but the previous year they'd given us a hummus plate where all the veggies were shaped like a human face on the hummus. And we were like, let's see if they do that again. And they did not.

[JPC]

Oh, yeah, that's weird. Guy has been fired.

[Josh Gondelman]

When they put it down, the waiter went, we don't usually do this. Like, he was confused by why it happened.

[Casey]

Sending a message.

[Josh Gondelman]

Yeah. He's like, you should have more. You should look like this. And so they gave us normal hummus. And then we ate really fast. And then we're like, we have like one hour where we can't really do anything. So we were like, we hadn't had anything to drink, and there was a karaoke place right across the street from the hotel. So we're like, let's just go for an hour and rip it. And the two of us went to do that. That was the mission. And outside the karaoke spot, we ran into Paul Saborin of Paul and Storm and of Joco Cruz. And he had never met Allison before. I was delighted to introduce them. And then we're like, well, we're going to do karaoke for one hour. Would you like to join us? And he was like, sure. And he's a professional musical comedian. So Alison and I were just like, bellowing. And Paul was like, doing his best, like. Like to kind of keep us on pitch. We did one hour of extremely aggressive, extremely sober karaoke and then went out and did our show.

[Aaron]

I was aghast. It's like someone telling me they ran a marathon in the middle of their day to kill time. I could not believe it.

[Josh Gondelman]

I'd never done a thing like that before. I think I know a few people that have that kind of as an entertainment habit of theirs where they'll go like, oh, we have a dinner reservation at 7. It's 5:30. We can just crush an hour of karaoke and try to feel our feelings before dinner. But this was my first time and it was awesome.

[Casey]

I gotta start thinking of when I can cram karaoke into my day. That's fun. Tuesday morning, 10am My mom was just over and she to stay with us for a couple days. And she had never done karaoke and she'd made a big to do of like, I've never done karaoke. I'd love to do it sometime. And so we have a karaoke machine in our basement. Brought it upstairs. She sang the Jardian song, which is her go to, and now it's crossed off her list.

[JPC]

What is the Giardian song?

[Josh Gondelman]

Yeah, I don't know what that song is.

[Casey]

I have type 2 diabetes, but I handle it. Well, it's a commercial. It's a commercial for a medicine.

[Aaron]

There was not a backing track for that. Right? She did it acapella. Please tell me there is not a backing track available for that online.

[JPC]

That's a preset on the machine.

[Aaron]

No, it's not.

[Casey]

But that's what my mom will sing to us for our birthdays now. Because like, three years ago. Exactly. But three years ago, she became obsessed with the song. And so we're like, instead of leaving a voicemail singing Happy Birthday at midnight every birthday, can you just sing that? And so that's her new thing. And we as a family love it.

[Aaron]

That's awesome. I guess being a mom can be fun.

[Casey]

Aaron, what were your hangups again?

[Aaron]

Mostly everything else.

[JPC]

Adam, who's the biggest celebrity you think you could conceivably get to sing that song for your mom? I mean, I'm assuming Amy Mann would take a turn at the Jardiniera song. What is it?

[Josh Gondelman]

When you said the Chicago Medicine, I assumed the Cleveland Guardians, the baseball team, had a theme song and you didn't know how they were pronounced. And I was like, that can't be right. Neither of those two things could possibly be true.

[Casey]

Well, Josh, I have a Jardiance of Ga' Hool tattoo, so I think I know how to pronounce jardiance.

[Josh Gondelman]

I thought it was Ja'. Hool.

[Aaron]

And Josh, I know we talked about this before, but what are some of your go to karaoke songs? Oh, gosh, the list that you gave me, I was like, that also sounds

[Josh Gondelman]

like it's a little chaotic. I've been doing. I've really settled into a groove lately with songs that nobody wants to hear. I've been doing Zoot Suit Riot by the Cherry Poppin. Daddy is a band name. I apologize for saying I do. Where you can find it. I'll do Dr. Worm by they Might Be Giants the best, which I love. Great song. It is like a song that if you are not in the right Room. People are like, that's not a song.

[Casey]

It's such a fun. They sang that on Joko 2 years ago last year. I'm obsessed with that song.

[Josh Gondelman]

It's such a good song. I'm trying to think of what else I used to do a lot more Springsteen. I love a Springsteen. Leiby and I will do Beer by Real Big Fish.

[JPC]

I love that song.

[Josh Gondelman]

Where we can find it? Yeah, it's fun as hell. So I kind of. It's like a little more ska centric than my normal music listening. But there's also, like. There's a genre, I think, of songs that are great karaoke songs and fine songs like Cryin by Aerosmith. I saw someone do it years ago and was like, oh, this is a great karaoke song. And, like, I never want to hear it not sung at karaoke. Yeah.

[Aaron]

Someone should make a playlist of that on Spotify. Bad songs, great at karaoke, and then

[Josh Gondelman]

another playlist of just people doing them. Karaoke is, like, proof of concept.

[Aaron]

Yes.

[Casey]

Switching from they Might Be Giants to Aerosmith gave me goosebumps, but I don't know if it's good or bad yet.

[Aaron]

It's definitely telling a story.

[JPC]

Yeah. The last time I did karaoke, I was kind of surprised that the place just had, like, YouTube pulled up and you just. You just use YouTube to find karaoke songs. I was like, oh, gone are the days of, like, the little machine that Adol has that, like, has the karaoke on it. It's all on the Internet now. Huh.

[Josh Gondelman]

The YouTube stuff is kind of nice because you can get some real deep cuts, really alienate the crowd. I've done, like, Aucarville river songs. Yeah. I'm trying to think of other. Because it is really fun. Maris really tore up some Ted, Leo and the pharmacists at a recent YouTube karaoke session. Yeah, really cool.

[Aaron]

JPC. You're still doing Gregorian chants every time you do karaoke.

[JPC]

My go to at karaoke is to pick a song where everyone's like, oh, hell yeah. That would be hilarious. But then, like, 10 seconds into it, people are like, wait, we don't want to do this. We don't want to sing this whole song.

[Casey]

The full six album.

[JPC]

Yeah.

[Casey]

Too many songs.

[Josh Gondelman]

You know what the greatest karaoke. I'm so sorry to interrupt.

[Aaron]

No, no, please.

[Josh Gondelman]

My friend Jaya Saxena innovated this, and it's closing the night with a full room performance of It's All Coming Back to Me now by Celine Dion.

[Aaron]

Brilliant.

[Josh Gondelman]

It's such a long song and and it's so dynamic. And you. I think if you are of a certain age, you, like, remember more of the words than you even think you do, for sure. And because she's such a good singer, you can't. Celine Dion. You end up like, I can kind of bring it down into my range in a way that works where I'm not like, oh, no, I have to do the Celine Dion thing. I'm just like the flesh and the f. Yeah.

[Aaron]

Everyone wants to grab their chest and go, baby, baby, baby.

[Josh Gondelman]

Feels so good.

[Aaron]

Oh, that's. And that's brilliant. That truly is the wisest thing I've heard in a long time.

[JPC]

And that's how Celine Dion gets to feel all the time.

[Aaron]

Oh, it must be so.

[JPC]

She could just do that at any

[Josh Gondelman]

time, but she couldn't for years.

[Casey]

Oh, yeah. Her.

[JPC]

That's right.

[Casey]

She had a condition.

[Josh Gondelman]

Yeah. It must feel so good to be like, I'm back and I'm Celine Dion.

[Aaron]

I like to do a duet at karaoke because I like to make eye contact with a friend while we panic about who's doing what. Harmony. And if we even remember the harmony.

[Josh Gondelman]

What is your. Do you have a go to duet?

[Aaron]

I Got yout Babe is so fun. People are always like, that's another one. People are like, oh, yeah, this is a good song.

[Casey]

Aaron, you and I did Summer Lovin', but you sang both parts. Yeah, I kept going, what the fuck?

[Aaron]

I kept putting my hand over your mouth and going,

[Casey]

just do the Wella Wellas.

[Josh Gondelman]

That song is like kind of four parts, right?

[JPC]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Josh Gondelman]

Because it's like the lead and then the two sets of background vocals.

[JPC]

I do Summer Lovin at karaoke, but it's with a friend in a different city doing their part in karaoke. And then I'm just doing my part.

[Aaron]

They're on speakerphone and it's delayed. That would be so funny.

[JPC]

I just explained to people the concept of the song is that someone is going to be doing the other part. Not here. That's how summer 11. I don't. I wish it worked differently.

[Josh Gondelman]

You only hear ever after half summer Loving Canonically.

[Aaron]

Are you there,

[Josh Gondelman]

Fun?

[JPC]

Oh, yeah. I'm dropping every other word. I'm not doing it like they do in the movie. I'm doing it like I'm going to a summer lover tunnel.

[Josh Gondelman]

There's like a. I don't think it's a problem to tell this story. We did, like, a Desus and Mera. When I worked for Jesus and Mera, we did, like, a staff Karaoke, which was so fun, everyone was just, like, going wild. But Ziwe did the entire Grease mega mix. Like, you would play it like a bar mitzvah or like a middle school dance. And she did the whole thing herself. And Maris, like, grabbed my arm and was like, she's a star to this day. We'll be like. That's how I knew she was a star when she did the whole Grease mega mix with, like 1 million percent commitment.

[Casey]

That rules.

[Aaron]

When I was in Greece, I played Jan. And So in summer 11, I had one line, and it's kind of the shortest, I'd say, worst line other than, did she put up a fight? Which no one likes saying. But I had how much dough did he spend? And I remember being in it, and if I didn't nail it, I'd be like, oh, well, I'll try again tomorrow night. You don't get a lot of chances in Grease if you're Jan. Brush and

[Casey]

brush and brush em, right?

[Aaron]

Yeah. They don't let you do the brush' em brush and brush em in the play. It's a movie thing. So they didn't let me do that.

[Casey]

I did step on. And I wanna call out the very good pun. Josh, would you please say it again?

[Josh Gondelman]

Oh, not a lot of janses.

[Casey]

Oh, take a chance on me.

[Aaron]

Not a lot of chances. Oh, yeah, I didn't get a lot of chances. That's true. Well, we're going to end the episode by singing that Celine beyond song. In the meantime,

[Casey]

have I told you guys My sister Saidiya is good friends with Jim Jacobs, who wrote Grease, and he put up. They Met through. He remounted an original production of Grease because it started in Chicago, went on to fame and acclaim, and then he brought it back to Chicago. And the original script is unbelievably dark.

[Josh Gondelman]

Really?

[Casey]

Yeah. They have, like, zip guns, whatever those are, which I think are just like little homemade guns or something. There's like a. How do I say this with any amount of class? There's like a ookie cookie situation. I think, like, there's just a lot of, like, really dark.

[JPC]

Wait a second. It feels like ooky cookie is dark.

[Aaron]

I can't do this.

[JPC]

I mean, hey, man, you don't love the game, we don't have to play, but dark.

[Casey]

You said that like Danny Zuko.

[Josh Gondelman]

I don't know if any. I bet at least one of the three of you has had this experience as a young person knowing about the movie Fast Times at Ridgemont High, thinking that it's Like a fun teen comedy. And then going, oh, no, because there's a lot of darkness in that movie as well.

[Aaron]

A tale as old as time. I think that we should do riddles.

[JPC]

Oh.

[Aaron]

So here we go.

[Casey]

Okay.

[Josh Gondelman]

See yourself.

[Aaron]

Okay, so this person has a last name, and they told me to have fun with their last name. And I don't know if that means they know I'm not going to be able to pronounce it or if I'm allowed to put my own little pizzazz on it.

[JPC]

Oh, is it pizzazz?

[Casey]

Have fun with it. Sounds like. Aaron, try and read it correctly. And then let's do another take and just have fun with it.

[Aaron]

Okay, great.

[JPC]

Yeah. Maybe throw one away. Aaron, we won't use it. We'll use it. It's the only one we'll use. Always.

[Aaron]

Wait, what was that?

[Casey]

We should say Jedi Patel is now directing our episodes.

[Aaron]

That's awesome. These are from Alex Demetrius.

[Josh Gondelman]

That didn't sound like fun. Yeah.

[JPC]

And Aaron, I gotta say, you barely made it through Alex. You said. You said Alex like it was like you were 100% confident.

[Josh Gondelman]

Was Alex spelled the normal way or

[Aaron]

is there kind of a funny. Yeah, it's spelled the normal way.

[JPC]

It's spelled back. It's backwards. It's X, E, L, A. And I'm like, alex, I guess.

[Casey]

Aaron, let's just.

[JPC]

Okay.

[Aaron]

Yeah, you're right. Shake it up, Shake it up.

[Casey]

And you're at karaoke. Aaron, you're at karaoke.

[JPC]

Aaron, do some vocal warmups.

[Aaron]

Yeah, baby, baby, baby. Okay, Yabiboo Bobby, put a pot pie

[JPC]

in Pooh Bear's Stomach by Be Ba Boo Boo.

[Aaron]

Okay, These are from Alex Demetris. I didn't have fun in that one either. These. I got it. This is easy. Actually, this type of stuff is really easy for me.

[JPC]

Classically, I think so.

[Aaron]

These are from Alex Demetrius. These are from Alex Demetrius. These riddles are from Alex Demetrius. No, that's probably offensive.

[JPC]

It sounded fun, Aaron. Hey, don't hide your light under a bushel basket. That sounded fun as hell.

[Josh Gondelman]

I wouldn't even stay under one of those things.

[Aaron]

Ridiculous expression.

[Casey]

Aaron, you were smiling. A lot of sweat got into your smile, but you were smiling.

[Aaron]

Oh, thank you.

[JPC]

Can I try one? Erin, can I try one?

[Aaron]

Yeah, of course.

[JPC]

These riddles are from Alex Demeter.

[Aaron]

You're having more fun than I am. And then your confidence on Alex helped. You're right.

[JPC]

Can I be honest with you?

[Aaron]

What?

[JPC]

I was not confident on Alex. I was like, I think I'm doing this.

[Aaron]

You seem so Confident.

[JPC]

No, it's just. It's fake. It's all false confidence.

[Aaron]

I'm gonna copy and paste this last name, and I don't. If you guys want to take a run at it.

[Josh Gondelman]

Yeah, I'm gonna take a stab. Any opportunity for fun.

[Aaron]

Yeah.

[JPC]

Oh, dermatologist.

[Josh Gondelman]

No, that was.

[Casey]

These riddles are from Alex Demitralis.

[Aaron]

Dimitrails trails. But doesn't it chemtrails?

[JPC]

Does this Demtrails this Emails from Alex Demeemtrails.

[Aaron]

Poor Alex is at their desk at work being like, this is the fucking weirdest day. No.

[JPC]

On Armor End.

[Josh Gondelman]

These riddles are from Alex Demetralis.

[Aaron]

Okay, I think we got a winner.

[Casey]

That's the one. We'll use Casey's.

[JPC]

I had a lot of fun.

[Aaron]

It's gonna be so funny that I'm talking and then all of a sudden, it's Josh's voice.

[Josh Gondelman]

They ADR'd in me.

[Aaron]

Well, how about. I'll do. These riddles are from. And then Josh, you say the name. Ready?

[Josh Gondelman]

Okay. These riddles are from Alex Dimitralis.

[Aaron]

Musical guest.

[Josh Gondelman]

Yeah. Give it a little Dumbardo Don Pardo. I said Dom Pardo, which is the champagne they drink after every episode of Saturday Night Live.

[Casey]

Well, it's not official unless it's been inside.

[Aaron]

Dom, you're in a habit of having fun with Nate.

[Josh Gondelman]

Otherwise, it's just sparkling. Darryl Hammond Pardo.

[Casey]

The interruption. Has anybody made that podcast? The All Don Pardo podcast?

[Aaron]

You guys are way more awake than me right now. This is quite intimidating.

[JPC]

Okay, you play flag football at recess and you say, like, I'm all time Don Pardo. That's who I'm playing.

[Aaron]

I love that I call these riddles couples. Each answer is a fairly common pairing of things, unless I'm unclever and really need to stretch the term common. With these three clues to figure out what the pair is. With three clues to figure out what the pair is. Sorry, what?

[JPC]

The pair is. Gotcha.

[Aaron]

Okay, and these are gonna be. These are pretty obvious. I will list them below and begin with one you may or may not use as an example. Okay, great. Thank you so much, Alex.

[Casey]

Alex who?

[Aaron]

Dimitri. Dim. Dip. Dimmit. I'm stuck. Pull me out. Pull me out. We are citrusy, covered in skin, and cannot be compared.

[Casey]

Apples and oranges.

[JPC]

No.

[Aaron]

Yes. You got it.

[Casey]

Oh, okay.

[Aaron]

That's a great. This is a good example, actually. I'd like to see a scene. We're going to see two roommates living together. It's kind of an odd couple situation. You're Trying to make it work. Josh will have you be an apple, and JBC will have you be an orange.

[JPC]

Got it.

[Josh Gondelman]

Right. Hey, can you help me with this box real quick?

[JPC]

Yeah, sure. What are we doing with it?

[Josh Gondelman]

Just. We're going to put it down, take some stuff out of it, and put it around the room.

[JPC]

Oh, um, I can't. I'd love to help you out, but just some of the stuff that you described is just gonna be so hard without hands and legs and eyes and a mouth and ears. And I love that for you, but it's just like, I might just lay her on the floor if it's all the same.

[Josh Gondelman]

Okay, that's fine. When you said ears, I don't even think ears were especially relevant to the task. It sounds like you're just trying to get out of doing it.

[JPC]

No, I know, but it's like you also have them, you know, and I don't. So it's like, kind of always relevant, you know? Kind of always relevant. Mm.

[Josh Gondelman]

So you're saying if you were a potato, you would be better equipped to help me out with this task?

[JPC]

All I'm saying is, is if the same witch that did whatever she did to you were to do it to me, maybe I would be more able to help with tasks around the house.

[Josh Gondelman]

It is. It is a little uncomfortable that the witch made me completely anthropomorphic and just gave you the ability to communicate psychically with.

[JPC]

Psychically with. Yeah. Yes. Yeah. And I don't think that. Did I do something to her? Like, it didn't feel like I did something to her, right?

[Josh Gondelman]

No, no, no, no. You are so nice to that witch.

[Casey]

We cut back to JPC and Josh in the witch's hut. Aaron youn are the witch.

[Aaron]

Do you mind taking your shoes off before you come in?

[JPC]

I'm sorry, are you talking to me, or you're looking at this bowl of fruit?

[Aaron]

Oh, sorry. Ooh, that's offensive. That's on me. Sorry. Do you guys mind taking your shoes off before you come in?

[JPC]

Are you gonna do something to the fruit? I mean, I feel like we went back in time to before the fruit got the ability.

[Aaron]

I thought that you were.

[JPC]

I'm sorry, I'm a neutral passerby.

[Aaron]

This is a complete misunderstanding, sir. Oh, you're thinking that you were born in orange and you got anthropomorphized. I'm thinking that you were a human who wronged me in some way. Okay. Sir, I thought you were a human that wronged me and I was gonna turn you into some fruit. I thought you were gonna not take off your shoes in my apartment. You. You, sir, you're gonna be an apple with legs and arms. You're okay.

[Josh Gondelman]

Okay. Still, that's weird considering.

[Aaron]

I'm gonna start screaming when there's misunderstandings and scenes. From now on, I'm turning over a new leaf and this is my new attitude on the show.

[JPC]

I do like the idea of, like two cursed people, but they never bring up the fact that they were people. They're just like. They're so used to being cursed pieces of fru that they're like, why even talk about it? Why even talk? We can't change anything.

[Josh Gondelman]

Stop bringing up the past.

[Casey]

I've always lived in the psychic orange.

[Aaron]

We fly.

[Josh Gondelman]

I also like that that's the specific misunderstanding with the witch that made you the witch.

[JPC]

She invited us here, Right? Like, I'm like, what? You? It's like, we don't want to be here for dinner.

[Aaron]

You didn't take off your shoes. Turn you into a fucking orange. Fuck you.

[Casey]

Big Twilight Z type cookbook that says how to cook for oranges.

[Aaron]

Oh, yeah. A classic.

[JPC]

A classic.

[Aaron]

We fly, feed our kids vomit and teach you how to fuck birds and bees. Yes. Adol, you're killing it. I'd actually like to see another scene. Adol, you are sort of a fun performer that has been brought into a middle school to teach kids about the birds and bees. And Josh and jbc, you'll be the students sort of asking him questions and poking holes in what he's doing.

[Casey]

And Aaron, maybe I'm drunk. Did you say middle school?

[Aaron]

Yeah, but high school, I guess. When do they bring in a sex ed person? We'll do high school. We'll do high school.

[JPC]

What is middle school? Well, it's like 6th, 7th, and 8th grade, right? I feel like that's right for sex.

[Casey]

We call that grade school. Okay, middle school.

[Josh Gondelman]

Really?

[JPC]

Okay, wait, you call middle school? Hold on now.

[Casey]

Elementary.

[JPC]

Okay, well, when I hear elementary, I think like one through five, right?

[Casey]

Okay.

[JPC]

Okay.

[Josh Gondelman]

Yeah. Maybe kindergarten tacked on.

[Aaron]

Yeah.

[JPC]

Can we be at kindergarten? No, no, you're right. Let's do seventh grade.

[Aaron]

You guys are like in eighth grade.

[Josh Gondelman]

It's funny that they had called that grade school because I've heard grade school as well. But all the school, they all have grades.

[Casey]

Yeah, that's fair. Wait a minute.

[Aaron]

This is the kind of stand up I want to see you be doing. Josh. This is the kind of observational comedy.

[Casey]

We're in a grade and we get grades. What's The. Okay.

[Aaron]

Okay. In action.

[Casey]

Hey, everybody. How's everyone doing? Give me a big old yay. Yay.

[Aaron]

Yay.

[Casey]

Okay, I heard some yays and some woos. We'll work on that. My name is Aspen and I'm here to teach you. Okay. Usually I get some giggles. No giggles from Aspen. Okay.

[Adeline]

Yes.

[Josh Gondelman]

Over there.

[Casey]

Aspen. Yeah.

[Josh Gondelman]

Why do kids sometimes giggle when you say Aspen?

[Casey]

Well, usually before I get to the pen part, they'll giggle at ass. Or sometimes people will whisper ass, penis to one another and sort of chuckle, but it's.

[Aaron]

We're really dropping the ball, guys. It sounds like other schools are funnier than us.

[Casey]

No, no, no, this is a good thing because you don't really know what asses and penises do.

[JPC]

No, no, no. We can do it. We can do ass, penis. Say your name again. Say your name again.

[Casey]

Don't go home and say that.

[Josh Gondelman]

It's not even time to go home for, like six hours.

[JPC]

Our teacher just told us to be respectful. But if that's not the vibe that you appreciate, we can do differently. We can do differently.

[Aaron]

We'll be like those other kids at the other schools.

[JPC]

Yeah. Say your name again. Say your name again.

[Casey]

My name. And I'm. And I want to make this clear. I'm definitely not Mr. Thompson in a hat and funny shoes. I'm Aspen the sex clown.

[JPC]

More like.

[Aaron]

Come on. You got it, stupid.

[JPC]

I just can't. It's just not who I am. I just don't like being this guy.

[Casey]

What the. Fuck me?

[Aaron]

No, no, the ass stick.

[JPC]

He told you that as. He told you that as a secret. You can't tell people his deepest, darkest fear, that he's dumb and unlovable.

[Aaron]

You didn't tell me that as a secret. I overheard him saying it backstage. It's different if I was.

[Casey]

And we need to get rid of our school backstage. If I was unlovable, then why does my wife have. Get the chalk out sex with me. Underline sex several times. What is. And what is sex?

[Josh Gondelman]

Hey, it makes me uncomfortable that the board just says sex with me on it.

[Aaron]

Yeah, yeah.

[Casey]

Let me get rid of that. Let me get rid of that.

[Josh Gondelman]

Okay, let's just write sex sounds like it's the assignment. You know what I'm talking about?

[Casey]

Yeah. Let me write sex. And then I'm going to write a bubble and it says learning about with an arrow circling back just so there's no.

[Aaron]

This seems a little complicated.

[Casey]

So no janitors call anyone. Okay, well, what do we know about. What do we know about sex? Parents have it. That sex is why you're here. Mr. Thompson has it. Your teacher, Mr. Thompson has a ton of sex.

[Josh Gondelman]

Why did you ask the question and then start giving all the answers?

[Casey]

Well, I just. I have my own little agenda. I want to work in Mr. Thompson. Absolutely. You know, cracks backs. Mr. Thompson is getting laid constantly.

[Aaron]

But I'm want us to tell people this.

[Casey]

You do what kids do if information gets disseminated. The semen. Let's talk about what do we know.

[Josh Gondelman]

I think he wants us to make fun of the word disseminated because it says semen in the middle.

[Aaron]

Anyone want to do that? Or.

[Josh Gondelman]

I don't want to take the bait. It feels too obvious.

[JPC]

Should we be making fun of just the word? Like what?

[Josh Gondelman]

I know.

[Casey]

What do we know? What are some. What are some? Genitals. We know. Let's just scream out. Genitals.

[Aaron]

Genitals.

[JPC]

Genitals.

[Casey]

Yeah. I walked into that one. Other teachers walking by the classroom. What the fuck?

[JPC]

Let's just scream that.

[Aaron]

Let's do one more. And then we'll come back to these after the break. We're fuzzy. Fall from the sky and assist those in physical or emotional need.

[JPC]

Acorn therapists.

[Aaron]

No, but write that down. That's something.

[Casey]

You mean squirrels.

[Josh Gondelman]

Jpc.

[JPC]

No. I don't go to a squirrel for therapy. No.

[Casey]

This guy's nuts.

[Aaron]

Jpc. It wouldn't. Nothing. And I'm saying this in a neutral way with no judgment, but I would be 0% surprised if I found out your therapist of the last decade was a squirrel. Everything would sort of lock into place for me. That you've been talking to a squirrel that sort of sits outside your window.

[Adeline]

This is.

[JPC]

I would also not find that because they have been acting so squirrely with me recently, to the point where I'm like something. It. Maybe it's not squirrel, but something is going on here. Someone call for a scene?

[Aaron]

No. We're fuzzy. Fall from the sky and assist those in a physical and emotional need.

[Casey]

Raining cats and dogs.

[Aaron]

Yes. Adel, you're on a roll here. Unbelievable.

[Casey]

I would like to see. Do we have time for it? A scene before break. Aaron or no?

[Aaron]

Yes. Let me ask the council. The council says yes.

[Casey]

Let's say Josh and Aaron, you two are dogs and you're trying to walk home in the rain. And jpc, you come in as a cat.

[JPC]

Okay.

[Aaron]

I think that you did really great today. Like, every time he threw the ball, you went. You grabbed it. You got it. I think that your confidence is just a little low. I don't know.

[Josh Gondelman]

I mean, I got it, but I brought it back and he threw it again, which probably means I didn't bring it back, right?

[Aaron]

No, no, I think he. If he. If he didn't bring it back, right, I don't think he would trust you enough to throw it again. You know what I mean?

[Josh Gondelman]

This is really helpful to hear because I was thinking that if you liked the way I brought it back, then he would have just kept it.

[Aaron]

Yes, he.

[JPC]

Pussy, please.

[Aaron]

What? Sorry. Hello?

[JPC]

Excuse me. Hello?

[Aaron]

Oh, it's a cat.

[JPC]

Did you say something to me? I'm sorry, did you say something to me?

[Aaron]

Stand behind me. Hey, can we help you with something? Oh, smells your butt.

[JPC]

Okay. Oh, okay. A little. A little personal, don't you think?

[Aaron]

I mean, it's how I say hello.

[JPC]

Okay. It's not how.

[Aaron]

Just making sure you're safe.

[JPC]

It's not how I say hello.

[Josh Gondelman]

So kind of feels like, oh, you do it.

[Casey]

You do it your way.

[Josh Gondelman]

You were just saying. Can you help you?

[JPC]

What's this guy. What's this guy's problem?

[Aaron]

He doesn't have.

[JPC]

Why is his face all flat like that?

[Aaron]

He's a pug.

[Josh Gondelman]

I'm a pug. This is how my face is that.

[JPC]

You say that like it means something to me. He's a pug. He's a pug. What could that possibly be?

[Josh Gondelman]

Also, I ran really fast into a wall, but that didn't make my face flat. My face was already flat, fortunately.

[Aaron]

Hey, man, you're the one who talked to us.

[JPC]

Yeah, I'm sorry. Wait, what do you. What? Why would you say that?

[Aaron]

Because you said. I think you called us pussies.

[JPC]

Excuse me? That's our word, which is a sort

[Aaron]

of takes one to no one situation.

[JPC]

I don't believe. I don't believe what I'm hearing right now. I don't believe what I'm hearing right now.

[Aaron]

No, I've met a cat before. You guys are dastardly and manipulative. You're all the same.

[JPC]

Oh, you know what you. You know what you are? A bigot.

[Aaron]

No, I'm a basset hound. Get it right.

[JPC]

Well, you. You know what? You look more like a bigot hound to me. And I said it. And I said it. I won't take it back.

[Casey]

Oh, my God.

[Aaron]

I can't believe I'm getting into a fight and I'm with my only pug friend.

[Josh Gondelman]

See, this is what I'm always saying about cancel culture running among. I'm sorry. Cancel culture running among.

[JPC]

You're that kind of culture. You're that kind of pug I see. What do you mean?

[Aaron]

Dark run upon catsel culture.

[JPC]

Catzel culture.

[Aaron]

Wow. And I think we should take a break. And I want everyone to really think about that. Okay.

[JPC]

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[Casey]

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[Aaron]

Hey everybody, we're back from a break. That's Josh over there, that's Adol, that's jpc. And we're really excited to be here with riddles from Alex, Dimitri Demetri,

[JPC]

Dr. Demetrilos.

[Aaron]

Here are more of those couple riddles which I'm loving. These are fun. I feel like they're not.

[Josh Gondelman]

Oh yeah.

[Aaron]

It's early in the morning. I guess it's not early in the morning for me. It's 9:45am but this is the first thing I've done today. And so I'm glad that we're doing something that's kind of easy breezy on the brain. Here we go. We're Russian, litigious and are unjust when separated.

[Casey]

Crime and Punishment adult.

[Josh Gondelman]

You're so good at these.

[Casey]

And these are all words that are married to each other. I guess I just love my married friends.

[Aaron]

Yeah. Crime and Punishment are married, but they're in sort of like an open thing.

[Casey]

Yes. With War and Peace.

[Aaron]

Yes, exactly.

[Josh Gondelman]

They swing. The lifestyle.

[Aaron]

They swing.

[Casey]

Yeah. Warren. Peace of billionaire.

[Aaron]

We're clumsy, thirsty and crowned.

[Josh Gondelman]

Wait, what's that? Sorry.

[Aaron]

We're clumsy, thirsty and crowned.

[JPC]

Snap, crackle and pop. The three dwarves.

[Aaron]

No. Are you ok?

[JPC]

What question is that, Aaron?

[Casey]

Isn't there a show? I've never seen it, but I've heard of it. It's a show on Apple TV where it's like Lee Pace is both king. He's like himself, current age king, but then his younger self is there and his older self is there.

[JPC]

The foundation shows.

[Casey]

Okay. Asimov. I feel like now I'm just picturing Snap, Crackle, Pop in that sort of situation where they're all king at once. But past future versions.

[Josh Gondelman]

Those are the Three Kings from We Three Kings, the Christmas Carol.

[Casey]

Snapcrack Frankincense, gold and Rice Krispies.

[Aaron]

We are clumsy, thirsty and crowned.

[JPC]

Clumsy, thirsty and crowned.

[Casey]

Okay, this is. Now I'm thinking teeth like crown. Is that anywhere close?

[Aaron]

No, but is a crown like what

[JPC]

a king wears or is that. That's not gonna help me. No.

[Aaron]

Well, I guess, Yeah, I think it's. They're talking more about head. I actually don't know if they mean a literal crown. I don't think they mean a literal,

[Casey]

oh, Jack and Jill type.

[Aaron]

Yes. Jack and Jill.

[Casey]

Oh, it is Jack and Jill. Okay.

[JPC]

Oh, Jack and Jill fell down the hill.

[Aaron]

Went up the hill to fetch a pail of wine.

[Josh Gondelman]

But then they fell down.

[Aaron]

Jack and Jill.

[JPC]

I'm sorry, I was skipping to the end of the story. Spoilers. Jp fucking I. Jill fucking died, man. I'm so sorry. Hey, man. She was in a coma for 11 years. But no, you tell your story, Mr. Jack.

[Casey]

We're gonna pull the plug. Is that okay?

[Aaron]

Jack fell down too and broke his crown. And Jill came tumbling after. Do you think they mean like falling or do you think she did like a gymnastics tumble down the hill to come back?

[Josh Gondelman]

That would be so disrespectful.

[Casey]

After Jack broke, I think it was like a princess bride like my sweet Wesley.

[Josh Gondelman]

Yes.

[JPC]

Jack's bleeding out down there. She's just doing like a double backflip down there.

[Casey]

Watch me do a round off medics, hold up, scores.

[Aaron]

How are Jack and Jill related?

[Casey]

Dating, I thought.

[Aaron]

No, they're a pair of siblings. How about that?

[Adeline]

What?

[Casey]

Ew. I do want to see a scene.

[JPC]

Yep.

[Casey]

Aaron and Josh, you are Jack and Jill. And Aaron, you are visiting Jack in the hospital after the whole situation.

[Aaron]

Hey, buddy. How you holding up?

[JPC]

Jill, is.

[Josh Gondelman]

Is that you?

[Aaron]

Yeah. I brought flowers and balloons and I'm just here to apologize.

[Josh Gondelman]

For what? The whole thing was so hazy to me.

[Aaron]

Right?

[Josh Gondelman]

I just don't. I just remember we were going up the hill to fetch a pail of water.

[Aaron]

Sure.

[Josh Gondelman]

Which they kept at the top of the hill.

[Aaron]

Uh huh.

[Josh Gondelman]

And then yada, yada, yada, bottom of the hill, broken crown.

[Aaron]

And that's exactly what happened. And that's exactly what happened. You were very thirsty and you insisted we. We climb up there. And I said, that seems pretty unsafe. And then when we got up to the top, we weren't in a fight and I wasn't irritated and I didn't push you down the hill. So you remember it exactly. Right.

[Josh Gondelman]

Okay, quick follow up question. Jill, my best friend and closest sibling and only confidant.

[Aaron]

Of course.

[Josh Gondelman]

Why did you bring apology for flowers if. If that didn't happen.

[Aaron]

That's a great question, Jack. I gave them.

[Josh Gondelman]

I brought are saying I'm asking great questions.

[Aaron]

Oh, good.

[Josh Gondelman]

It was the first thing that came back.

[Aaron]

Good. I brought them for you to give to yourself. Cuz I thought you would want to exercise some self forgiveness after this entire incident.

[Josh Gondelman]

Now again, my memory. Memory is very hazy. Is that something anyone's ever done before?

[Aaron]

Yes, It's a very common normal thing that people do.

[Josh Gondelman]

Okay, then this sounds good. I just want to get back to normal. And the doctor said I might never do that again. Get back to normal.

[Aaron]

Well, the detectives are going to be in here soon and just make sure you tell them how hazy it is how you did this to yourself. If they throw around words like attempted or murder or anything like that, I just need you to just take a

[Josh Gondelman]

deep breath and I forgive myself for attempting to murder me. Understood.

[Casey]

Knock, knock, knock. Hello, I'm Detective Farts McNamara. Don't laugh. Usually it gets a giggle. And this is my partner.

[Josh Gondelman]

I'm sorry, I just have this grievous head injury. What part of farts McNamara or detective could be Detective? What part of Detective Fart McNamara do people usually giggle at?

[Casey]

Oh, great question.

[Josh Gondelman]

Thank you. The doctors are saying I'm asking great questions.

[Casey]

It's the first thing that came back, usually McNamara. Because people think of Mack the Knife and then they go into. Is that Sinatra?

[Aaron]

I think it's from Three Penny Opera.

[Josh Gondelman]

Darren.

[JPC]

That's right.

[Casey]

Bobby Darren. Thank you so much. I think I blocked it out because of who played him in the movie. Speaking of, this is my part partner, Detective Spacey. Kevin. He's a bit loopy.

[JPC]

Nice for me. Oh, and I know what you're gonna say. I got a fucked up face.

[Aaron]

Well, you're a pug.

[JPC]

Oh, I thought it was because I looked like Kevin Spacey.

[Aaron]

Scene. Let's keep going. Cared for by farmers, we spend the day in fields. Squeeze some fuzzy flesh and you get juice. Now don't be weird. Cared for by farmers, we spend the day in fields. Squeeze some fuzzy flesh and you get juice.

[Casey]

I mean, my first thought is peaches and cream.

[Josh Gondelman]

You got it too.

[Casey]

Okay, okay. But I was like, I can't picture a. When I picture farmers, I think of like tractors and corn. But peaches would be on a tree. But I don't think a farmer said at a tree.

[Josh Gondelman]

I also don't picture cream in a field.

[Casey]

You've never driven by a field of cream. Field of creams.

[Josh Gondelman]

I loved that.

[JPC]

If you stumbled upon cream. They Will Come. They Will Come. They Will Come Actually just works

[Casey]

well.

[Josh Gondelman]

Shit.

[Casey]

We accidentally made the best porn title of all time. Field of Prince.

[Josh Gondelman]

He tries to conjure the ghosts of baseball players to jack them off.

[Casey]

Honey, you're spending so much time outside. What's going on? Baseball, baseball, baseball. Think about it.

[Aaron]

I love baseball.

[Josh Gondelman]

He's the only guy that thinks about baseball and comes faster.

[Casey]

Well, and also, you know all the women that Derek Jeter dates.

[Aaron]

I. Josh, you'll appreciate this.

[Josh Gondelman]

Please.

[Aaron]

I. You grew up a Red Sox fan, I assume. I loved the Red Sox growing up and fell off a little bit in my twenties just because I was trying to get on the Cubs train a to be in Chicago. I was trying to be festive.

[JPC]

Aaron, that's called the red line.

[Aaron]

Oh, yes, the red line that got off at Addison. Thank you, jpc, for keeping me honest.

[JPC]

Fun local Chicago.

[Josh Gondelman]

Yeah. If you say Cubs train, they're like, what are you, a tourist?

[JPC]

Aaron's like, wow, the Cubs trade is so crowded today.

[Aaron]

But we had a night off on the Comedy Bang Bang Tour, and we were in Boston, and Will Hines, great improviser, was reading what the Boston Globe had been saying about the Red Sox this year. And it was. They were just ripping them apart because the Red Sox were in last place. And I was like, oh, man, that's really bad. And he was like, I'm gonna go to the game tonight. Anyone who wants to go with me can go. And I was like, you know what? It could be funny. It might be funny to watch the Red Sox be bad. I love Fenway Park. I'll go and have a hot dog. And I went. And it was by far the most exciting Red Sox game I've ever seen in person. It was, like, electric. And they were playing the Yankees, and they did six innings of the Yankees not even getting a hit. And I went, shame on me to doubt Boston. I feel like I learned a valuable lesson. I cannot believe I doubted the Red Sox. And now they're on, like, kind of a winning streak.

[Josh Gondelman]

Yeah, they've been playing really well. It kind of started with them sweeping the Yankees, and while they were still in last place and the Yankees, it took the Yankees from first place to second place. And as someone who's lived in New York for a long time, it still brought me great joy to see.

[Aaron]

Yes. And I was at that first game, their first Yankees game, and I went, wow, this is like good old Boston taught me a lesson.

[JPC]

Oh, so, Aaron, you did this?

[Josh Gondelman]

I would credit Aaron as Well, I

[Casey]

think Will Hines, you're a lucky talisman.

[JPC]

Well, I mean, yes, Will Hines did it in the way that he invited you to the game, but the actual, I mean, have you seen another, have you watched another of their games since then?

[Aaron]

No, but I did buy tickets for when they're playing in la.

[JPC]

Oh, Aaron, no. Oh, it's going to break their streak

[Aaron]

or they're still winning.

[Josh Gondelman]

Yeah, they could.

[JPC]

I know, but they could win harder, I guess. Yeah, I guess we, we. We'll have to, we'll have to follow through on that, Aaron, when, when they come to LA and see if, if it happens that you going to another game alters it in some way. Because all that we know right now, the empirical data has said that you have changed the trajectory for the better.

[Aaron]

I'm going to send you guys a text of a funny thing I saw at the game.

[Josh Gondelman]

I'm excited.

[Aaron]

Whenever I think of Fenway Park, I feel like the accent explodes out from there. Yeah, you're just bound to see the most Boston Y things ever. And there was a Yankees fan there and these guys in front of him every time.

[JPC]

Wow, that's you love. You love to see people being that aggro to a stranger.

[Aaron]

I love it.

[JPC]

Just the middle fingers in the face of a guy who appears to just be sitting there. Now, Aaron, was he antagonizing them in any way or was he in fact just sitting there?

[Aaron]

He was antagonizing them a little bit.

[JPC]

Okay, okay.

[Aaron]

He came in hot, being like, this is about to be just a humiliation ritual for the Red Sox. And then he left like an inning early and we all went, boo.

[Casey]

Now, to be fair, it is a Allen Houston, former Knicks player, Knicks jersey.

[Aaron]

Oh, it's a Knicks jersey.

[Casey]

And the Knicks won the championship most recently.

[Aaron]

So we all forget about that. That's ancient history.

[Casey]

I do feel like he's in the right New Yorker.

[Aaron]

Losers go Boston.

[Josh Gondelman]

It is funny though. Like, that kind of hubris isn't transferable when the Yankees lose. You can't then double back and be like, but the Knicks still won. Like, you kind of called your shot and you whiffed.

[JPC]

I do like the idea of wearing a basketball, like a winning basketball team to a different sports game because you're like, I want to get in a fight today, but I don't have the requisite jersey to get in a fight in the right way. But I still want to get in the fight. The fight needs to happen. Like, that's non negotiable.

[Josh Gondelman]

I let my kid take my Alex Rodriguez jersey back to his mom's house

[Casey]

and wearing a player's name. One of the only players whose last name is the city a different city?

[Josh Gondelman]

Yeah, third city entirely. I real quick if this is okay. I was walking down the street the day of Game 5 of the NBA Finals, and, like, all of New York City to this point had just been in a great mood for, like, a week, and since. Since they turned it around after Trump made them lose that one game. But, yeah, I was feeling great. I was, like, walking to meet my friend for lunch, and I saw an old lady with two little dogs, and I was crossing the street towards her and the dogs and just went, good morning. And she goes, who the fuck are you?

[Aaron]

And you're like, new York. So back.

[Casey]

All right, good morning. Good morning. That's your fucking step.

[Josh Gondelman]

It made me laugh so much, and when I told my wife about it, when I got up, she was like, how are you? Like, how are you laughing about this? That would have ruined my day if an old lady just screamed that in my face.

[Aaron]

That's so funny.

[Josh Gondelman]

It was awesome.

[Aaron]

It's like you were living in a musical for a week. Like, everybody's so sunshiny, and then she brought you right back to earth.

[Josh Gondelman]

Oh, it was great. It was, like, such a perfect experience. Lesson learned.

[Aaron]

I was gonna ask what it was like to be in New York when they won, but I feel like you

[Josh Gondelman]

just told us that was it. That was my dominant feeling, too, because I was, like, everywhere around me, people were so happy. Like, I felt like that lady for the whole week. Sure. Everywhere, people were happy. And friends would be like, are you going out after the game? Like, out in the streets? And I'm like, no, this isn't. Like, I'm. I guess I'm happy for you, but, like, I just live here. You know what I mean? I was like, this is. I would feel like a betrayal. Like, my sister was telling. She was like, my friends are asking if Josh is, like, cheering for the Knicks because he's lived there for so long. And she's like, I know, right? That's like a betrayal. And I'm like, yeah, of course it's a betrayal.

[Aaron]

Yeah. I would never.

[Josh Gondelman]

Disease. It's a disease to think that way, but I do have that disease, Josh.

[Casey]

I looked it up, and I'm sorry to say you ran into San Antonio spurs owner Samantha Texas, and so the one person who's going to be miserable.

[JPC]

Josh, is there any way that this old woman just couldn't maybe, like, modulate her voice? And what she said was like, who the fuck are you? Cause she's like, I know. I've seen this guy on YouTube. I know. I've been to one of his shows before, but it's like, I want to say Don Jondelman. And then she's like, no, don't say, who the fuck are you? And then she's like. And then you just walk past me, and she's like, don Jondelman is one of the rudest comics working.

[Josh Gondelman]

Wait. So I watched and I turned around to, like. To be like, is that what. And then she turned. Like we were past each other. We both turned around to look at each other again, and she went, who the fuck are you?

[JPC]

Oh, that's almost the Meet Joe Black stuff.

[Josh Gondelman]

You know, I did get hit by a bus after.

[Casey]

And now do your Jamaican patois.

[JPC]

The thing that people don't talk about enough is that he's killing it. He's doing the Jamaican patois. He's doing it exactly right.

[Josh Gondelman]

Brad Pitt. I don't. I think that's where my knowledge of Meat Joe Black ends.

[JPC]

I don't want to commit. It goes around every once in a while on the Internet. But there is a scene in Meat Joe Black where. Because he's like a. He's like an angel in someone else's body where he does like.

[Casey]

He's death, right?

[JPC]

Yeah, he's maybe death. Is death an angel. Who knows? But, yes, he's death. But he does. Is it, like, Jamaican? I can't remember, but it's some accent that is culturally, in the modern parlance, you probably wouldn't want to put yourself on screen doing.

[Josh Gondelman]

Sure, that's so. And. But that wasn't Brad Pitt.

[JPC]

It was Brad Pitt.

[Josh Gondelman]

Oh, it was Brad Pitt doing a Jamaican patois.

[JPC]

Yes.

[Aaron]

Yeah.

[Josh Gondelman]

It's also like a con that. It's the context, too, where you're like. I could see a context in which someone could do that in a movie, and you'd be like, oh, that's like, all right, whatever. But, like, in this case of like, no, no, no. This is drama. It's actually worse.

[JPC]

This is actually important. Hey, guys, can we have quiet on set? Brad Pitt's about to do his big scene.

[Josh Gondelman]

He's like. And this pronounced bumba clot. You know, we'll do some rewrites.

[Aaron]

Let's just make another movie.

[Casey]

I think my favorite Transformer, Bumbleclot.

[Aaron]

Awesome. All right, here's another one. This one I had a hard time with when I was playing along with myself to it earlier. So we'll see if you can do it.

[Josh Gondelman]

Okay.

[JPC]

Casey, go ahead and clip that for me.

[Aaron]

No. Come on. And I knew and I was trying to go under the radar. I can't say anything on the show without getting clipped.

[JPC]

No, I know.

[Josh Gondelman]

Yeah.

[JPC]

It's not fair.

[Aaron]

Builders of rainbows. Oath of the post. When contrasted, we are inevitable.

[Casey]

What was the first line?

[Aaron]

Builders of rainbows.

[Casey]

Leprechaun. Is this like, the lucky terms? Marshmallows. Like hearts and moons and clovers.

[Josh Gondelman]

Sunshine and rain.

[Aaron]

Yes. Rain and shine.

[Casey]

Good one, Josh.

[Josh Gondelman]

Amazing.

[Aaron]

The motion of boats found in garages. Together we are rebels.

[Josh Gondelman]

Rock and roll.

[Aaron]

Rock and roll.

[JPC]

Rock and roll. Rock and roll.

[Josh Gondelman]

Ebb and Flow is my favorite Pearl Jam song.

[Casey]

Ebb and flow. The dark and the moon

[Aaron]

Comparable to gold. Both grains of sand. We tend to push it. I really like this one.

[JPC]

Salt and pepper.

[Aaron]

Yeah.

[Josh Gondelman]

Ooh, that's really good.

[JPC]

God. The first one that I got. And not only the first one that I got, but the first one that, like, I understood.

[Casey]

Like, now say it like Patrick Stewart.

[JPC]

Excelsior.

[Josh Gondelman]

Ladies and gentlemen. Salt and Stanley.

[Casey]

Thank you.

[Josh Gondelman]

So good. A classic.

[Casey]

A classic.

[Aaron]

Aged French and pungent.

[Casey]

Wine and cheese.

[Aaron]

Yes.

[Casey]

It could also be Gerard Depardieu.

[Josh Gondelman]

Gerardo Depardieu.

[Casey]

Yeah.

[JPC]

If we're feeling particularly mean, it could be Gerard Depardu.

[Aaron]

French. An insult to children. We both have been around the world.

[Casey]

French. An insult to children. Jules Burner. Jules Hot Air Zeppelin. We've both been around the world. Amelia. Charles Lynn Burger Cheese.

[Josh Gondelman]

That's kind of a.

[Aaron]

Around the world is a reference to a song.

[Casey]

Oh, Daft Punk.

[Aaron]

Yes. Daft and punk. Yeah.

[Casey]

Very good.

[Aaron]

Favored in the morning, though often secretly craved for the evening. For a price, we will let you stay the night.

[Casey]

Bed and breakfast.

[Aaron]

Yes.

[JPC]

Oh, okay. Bed and breakfast. I fuck with that.

[Aaron]

Fried British bits.

[Casey]

Fish and chips.

[Josh Gondelman]

Pork and beans.

[JPC]

Fish and chips, of course.

[Casey]

And we blazed past it. But just know that I was gonna set up a Daft Punk bed and breakfast. But of course, we don't have the sun board for.

[Aaron]

We don't have anything for that. The fun for breakfast.

[Casey]

Fruit, cereal, milk and juice. Can you repeat that?

[JPC]

Adult pressing button. I'm. See, I'm envisioning you talking to a French robot person. And he's just like, apples, granola, milk and juice.

[Casey]

Wait, can you do that a little bit faster?

[Aaron]

That's so funny. The wolf's weapon. We are but wind splattered impotently against brick.

[Casey]

Whoa. Wind and bite.

[JPC]

The wolf's weapon is claw. Bite.

[Casey]

He blows down that tooth.

[JPC]

Tooth.

[Aaron]

But what is he actually? What are the words, the real words

[Casey]

for Huff and puff?

[Aaron]

He huffs and puffs.

[JPC]

Huffs and puffs.

[Aaron]

I'd like to see a scene. Adol, we're going to have you be a wolf that is sort of getting up there in age and is not as good at huffing and puffing anymore. And Josh, we're going to have you play a little pig whose house Adol is trying to blow down.

[Casey]

Ding dong.

[Josh Gondelman]

Oh, hey man, what's up? Sorry to.

[JPC]

Give me a sec.

[Casey]

Sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry.

[Josh Gondelman]

Can I get you a glass of water? I can't have you dying on this property. It's gonna raise a lot of questions. I'm so sorry.

[Casey]

Do you have a chair? Do you have a chair?

[Josh Gondelman]

Do I have a chair?

[JPC]

Do you have a chair?

[Josh Gondelman]

Yes, I have a chair. Do you want to sit in it?

[Casey]

Huff it up? Huff and I'll blow your house down.

[Josh Gondelman]

Okay. You sit in the chair for a minute. Okay.

[Casey]

Oh boy.

[Josh Gondelman]

I can't have detective farts MacArthur coming around here again. Ask if I killed another wolf.

[JPC]

Oh, you got kind of a flat

[Josh Gondelman]

face for a wolf.

[Casey]

You kind of live on a big mountaintop.

[Josh Gondelman]

Yeah, for privacy.

[Casey]

Oh. Back. Oh, if I was a teen wolf, I'd. What do you call me?

[Aaron]

What?

[Josh Gondelman]

You play basketball with me.

[Casey]

Yeah. Go for a layup and then you'd see me dunking on your ass.

[Josh Gondelman]

What? Let's cut to the chase. What are you doing here, old man?

[Casey]

I came here, but I came here. I bought the land that your home is on. We're going to demolish it. You have 30 days to vacate the premise. Back in the day, of course, I would huff and puff and blow your shit away. But now I'm older and I have saved and I have a 401k. So now I just buy the property and then sort of undercut the owner and knock down the place and build condos. So. You have 30 days to vacate the premise. You have been served.

[Josh Gondelman]

How about I knock you down this old hill and break your crown? How about that, huh? I live here. You. This is someone's life that you're talking about. This is a pig's life.

[Casey]

Yeah, that. Do you have that water?

[Josh Gondelman]

Do I. Do I have water for the guy that bought my house and is going to knock it down with the construction crew?

[Casey]

Hey, I'm not a bad guy, okay? I'm not a bad guy. I'm. I'm a businessman. I'm smart, okay?

[Josh Gondelman]

Oh, the big business wolf. No, Idiot. I don't buy it.

[Casey]

Yeah. Bbw. When you get older. What's your name?

[Josh Gondelman]

Pickleton.

[Casey]

Pickleton. When you get to be 45, 50, you're gonna realize that business is actually good. That. That.

[Josh Gondelman]

Don't condescend to me. This is actually good. You're gonna get more conservative as you get older, Wolf.

[Casey]

You live in your little pig bubble, and everyone says, oink, oink, and you say, all the way home. And you all just. It's just an echo chamber. You're gonna realize one day you have nothing. Okay. And then you're gonna realize you should have invested. You should have been a little more conservative.

[Aaron]

Hey, guys. Sorry to bother you.

[Josh Gondelman]

Yeah. What's up?

[Aaron]

Did you just see a really annoying brother fall down the hill just now or.

[Josh Gondelman]

Oh, I don't know if you're supposed to say that.

[Aaron]

Oh, well, ladies from Boston, have a good one.

[JPC]

Sing it up.

[Casey]

Oh.

[Aaron]

Oh, man.

[Casey]

Well, do we know if canonically, if this is, like, a brother's Grimm crossover, Do we know canonically, if the wolf from the Three Little Pigs is the same wolf from Little Red Riding Hood?

[Josh Gondelman]

I picture it as the same wolf.

[Casey]

Yeah.

[Aaron]

Yeah.

[Casey]

Is it written by the same. No. Jack and Jill would be like a Mother Goose. Right.

[Josh Gondelman]

But I don't think. Was that a real person?

[Casey]

I'm just thinking, like, I didn't know if there was, like, carryover. If it's like the wolf pops up again. I didn't know if the Brothers Grimm had, like, you know. Yeah, it's like CSI or something.

[Josh Gondelman]

Sure. Who wrote Brothers Grimm Hill?

[Casey]

Dick Wolf.

[Aaron]

Who wrote the Three Little Pigs? English. Fairy tale.

[Casey]

English. Interesting.

[Aaron]

In 1846, it first appeared.

[Josh Gondelman]

They were still doing that in 1846. They were still making up, like. And the pigs lived in a house.

[Aaron]

Yeah.

[Josh Gondelman]

Entertainment sucked back then.

[Aaron]

Oh, it's the worst. Oh, and then Little Red Riding Hood is way earlier.

[Josh Gondelman]

Okay, okay, that makes sense.

[Aaron]

Charles Perrault. It is French.

[Casey]

Whoa.

[Aaron]

Oui, oui, oui.

[Casey]

Erin, can we see one more very quick scene?

[Aaron]

Okay. Yes. Only because you've been good today.

[Casey]

JPC is a French big bad wolf airing your French little. Little. La petite. Thank you. La petite rouge. Hood.

[Aaron]

Yes. I love it.

[JPC]

Bother me, ma', am, but are you lost in the woods?

[Aaron]

Do you have a light for smoke?

[JPC]

Oh, holy shit. You're a child. Even better.

[Aaron]

No, see, see, see, see?

[JPC]

And that's a joke about how the. The French are all pedophiles.

[Josh Gondelman]

Why does your blackboard just say sex with me?

[Aaron]

Well, this has been fun. What a note to End it on Josh. Do you have anything to plug or promote or anything you want to talk about?

[Josh Gondelman]

Oh, my gosh. I have a comedy special that's out now on YouTube. It's called Positive Reinforcement. I put it out with Blonde Medicine Records. I have a newsletter called that's Marvelous. It's free or you can pay me money for it Every Monday. That's Marvelousnewsletter.com and then I'm on the road a ton this fall. I'm going. It's like ramping up now, but I'm doing Cambridge, Massachusetts, and gosh, I'm blanking right away. Oh, Dallas and Houston and San Diego and Phoenix and Cleveland and Pittsburgh already. And some more to come. Raleigh are on New Year's. Yeah, I'm really excited. Sorry, that's too many plugs. That's fantastic. No, but thank you for having me.

[Casey]

Thank you for having me.

[Josh Gondelman]

This is always so much fun.

[Casey]

One of our favorites.

[Aaron]

Anything to plug or promote. Anything you want to talk about.

[Casey]

Check out hello from the Magic Tavern. We're going to start our new season soon. We recently had Josh Gonelman on at the end of our last season, I believe. No, you were on Offices and Bosses.

[Josh Gondelman]

I was on Offices and Bosses and I think I might have done the last season of Magic Tavern.

[Casey]

Yes, yes. So check out Magic Tavern and also our Patreon, where you can find Offices and Bosses with Josh Gonelman. Aaron, do you have anything to plug or promote?

[Aaron]

Check out Quality Time if you're in Los Angeles or going to be in Los Angeles. It's a monthly variety show that I do. We're about to do July and the theme is rats, and we have an environmentalist doing a presentation on that. And I'm really excited. But we have a lot of really fun themes in the fall, so come check us out if you haven't yet. Gbc a review to read or anything to plug.

[JPC]

I'll just say if you liked Josh Gondolman on this show. Josh Goneman is also going to be guesting on an upcoming episode of our other show, Gum, Shoes and Dragons. So you can check him out there next month, which. Or maybe like in a couple of weeks, I think we haven't recorded it yet. So if something goes terribly wrong, then you might not. You'll never see Josh Goneman on that show.

[Casey]

Like the big bad wolf of the podcast universe, popping up everywhere.

[JPC]

Just popping up everywhere. Hot dogs.

[Aaron]

Oh, no, baby, baby, baby, touch me like this.

[Casey]

Granola milk and juice and salad, salad, breakfast salad.

[Josh Gondelman]

Casey.

[JPC]

Tony did the editing and Marty Paris in the music logo created by Emily Cardamus and Emily Naporus.

[Aaron]

And I think we should take a break. And I want everyone to really think about that. Okay?

[Josh Gondelman]

I'm gonna reset my recording. I apologize.

[JPC]

Oh, okay. No worries.

[Josh Gondelman]

Yep, I'm back up.

[JPC]

Perfect.

[Casey]

Thank you very much. I love you guys. Love you. He said it back.

[Josh Gondelman]

I'm gonna tell the rest of the gals and they are gonna be so excited for me when you go to

[Aaron]

lunch with them in the middle of the day. What are their names? Miranda, Samantha. Samantha.

[Josh Gondelman]

Charlotte.

[Aaron]

Sorry. I do listen when you talk about your friends, Josh. I just want you to know I am listening.

[Josh Gondelman]

That's okay. You're also one of my friends. Do you think you're not one of my friends, Josh?

[Casey]

I do listen to you. You have sex in the city or you have sex and the city?

[Aaron]

I think it's all in the city.

[JPC]

Oh, my God.

[Casey]

I'm so sorry.

[Josh Gondelman]

I actually do Saxon the city. Saxon.

[Casey]

Right on Fifth Avenue.

[JPC]

Hey there. Counts and quotes. If you like that, you are going to love this week's Patreon. It's another edition of our new games workshop. You can listen to that plus our entire back [e-mail] heyrettlertle by joining the clue crew for $5 a month or start your 7 day free trial or the review crew for $8 a month. Plus you get those ad free episodes. See you there.

[Aaron]

That was a hitgam podcast. Hi, I am Mandy Moore.

[Josh Gondelman]

Sterling K. Brown.

[Casey]

And I'm Chris Sullivan. And we host the podcast that was us now on Headgum.

[Aaron]

Each episode we're gonna go into a deep dive from our show. This is us.

[Adeline]

That's right.

[Aaron]

We're gonna go episode by episode. We're also gonna pepper in episodes with different guest stars and writers and casting directors.

[Casey]

Are we gonna cry?

[JPC]

Yes, a little bit.

[Josh Gondelman]

Are we gonna laugh a lot?

[JPC]

A whole lot.

[Josh Gondelman]

That's what I'm hoping, man.

[Adeline]

Listen to.

[Josh Gondelman]

That was us on your favorite podcast app. Or watch full video episodes on YouTube or Spotify. New episodes every Tuesday.