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This is a Headgum podcast.
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Wow.
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Listeners, it is November, which means only one thing. Democracy is on the line. No, that's not what I'm here to talk about. I'm here to talk about the 10th annual High and Mighty Thanksgiving Eve Power Hour. Coming live and live Streamed on Wednesday, November 27th at 7:30pm you can watch it for up to a week and a half afterwards on live stream. You can buy tickets to go see it live at Dynasty Typewriter. You could just wait a day and listen to it for free. But I'd prefer if you didn't. Because your buddy all Gabriel needs that money to get him through the holidays. I need to get. I need to get Santa rescued. He's been kidnapped. To me, the Rock and Chris Evans are going down there in a CGI fucking bonanza. No, for real. The Power Hour. Get tickets@powerhour.gabrius.com um, I'm positive Emma threw this in the show notes so that you could be hyped about it. Power hour, 10th annual, the last who knows. See you there. What's up shitheads? Welcome back to another episode of High and Mighty. A very special live streamed episode of High and Mighty. That's right. If you're just listening to this now, you missed it streaming live on Twitch. But I guess maybe it's saved on the Headgun page or something. That's something I should have asked about before I stepped out here. It's me, yo boy. The number one fuck boy, Johnny G from the south shore of Nassau County, Long island, standing 6 foot 2, 300 and change. It's. We gotta get a 2 there folks. As requested by the cardiologist and my bed frame, it's John Gabriz. All you gotta do is trust me. Jackson, Maine from A Star Is Born. You're showing up to the live streamed episodes. These days, abortion is healthcare. Okay, with that attitude you can stick around. Also joining me spiritually from the metatextual realm is my nearly silent co host Arthur Gabris. Arthur is at the podcast studio in the sky licking the legs of some famous dead guest, Jimi Hendrix. I don't what the fuck am I talking about? But Arthur is now truly silent in that he is dead. I don't know. He is ashes on my mantle and so is my dad. Equally important individuals in my life. Enough about me and what's happening here. Also joining me in the High Mighty studios or in the Headgum Studios for High and Mighty A now maybe your third time appearing between the Power Hour and the fucking Eurovision episode Can't ever remember what that is. It's Oscar Montoya. Los peros un parito.
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We're little dogs. I thought we were lobos. I thought we were wolves.
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Ah. See? Somos lobos, Migo.
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Wow, you rolled your R's even while howling.
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Yeah. Hey, man, I've learned from the best. Cooler. Mace. Upright Citizens Brigade. See? Yes. Guys, guess what? Did you know there's an election coming up? If you didn't, I am so envious of what your daily routine might be. If you have managed to avoid hearing about an upcoming election, drop it in the chat. How the fuck you figured that out? Because that is jealousy inducing. Let me tell you a little something. We are one week out from God knows what. Now, either way, I. You know, you hear me talk about this all the time in the pod now. Either way, half the country is going to be so pissed off. And that's kind of a scary way to be. No matter who wins. Half. 49.999% of us are going to be furious. So it can go either way. But don't worry. With one week out, we are arguing about the use of making fun of Puerto Rico in a rally. We are saying Kamala never worked at McDonald's. We're fighting over all this shit. Meanwhile, I'm not going to get into too much, but it's like overseas imperialism and happening. All this fucking shit. We're sitting here arguing back and forth about the most semantical bullshit while both parties are spending millions of dollars a day to get us to vote for them. If you don't know who you're voting for at this point, you are broken. And I'm talking to the nine of the dumbest fucking people in the world who happen to all live in Pennsylvania, I think. And you are the last. You are the nine. We need you. Get off your fucking. Fuck the Steelers. Fuck the Eagles. Get up and vote. I honestly don't even care who you vote for. I just don't want you to be undecided. I'd rather you say I support Trump, who sucks big time, than say you're undecided. Because if you say you're undecided, then what the fuck is wrong with. I know what's wrong with you. If you say you support Trump, you're lightly racist and love money, or you're from Long island, don't know any better. Sorry to my whole family watching. Just kidding. You've never supported me. You're not gonna start now, Bitch. I'm a socialist out in la. Suck it. I'M gonna fucking pass out. I've broken every fucking camera in here. I'm just so goddamn furious that I have to get texts every day for someone saying, hey, send me $50 or else Nazis will run through your town and kill everyone. You. I'm like, wait, I have to give you $50 for your job interview. Like, if I put out a GoFundMe and said, I'm trying to get hired at fucking Starbucks, everyone throw some money in there. I need to make a big ass splash. Cause you know if I'm not at Starbucks, someone's gonna serve you a glass of diarrhea. It's not gonna fucking happen, people. Okay? You have your money. Take your money. Don't spend it on ads. Spend it on fucking Asheville, North Carolina. Spend it on immigrants. Spend it on homeless people. Spend it on veterans. Spend it on anything but weapons and advertising. Also, while we're talking advertising, I don't watch a lot of commercials anymore, but live sports. Go Giants. This twitch's Twitch's state is nationwide, so I don't feel, I feel comfortable saying fuck the Dodgers. Let's. Let's go Giants. Let's go Yankees. We're down three. Nothing in the World Series game is going to start right after this and it doesn't look great. But I've been watching so many ads now and have you seen the ad for Kamala is for they them. Trump is for you. It's maybe one of the most homophobic as anti lgbtq. It offends me so much. It shows like several different trans and non binary people. Like in the archetypal, like conservative, like blue hair, dangly earring kind of shit. It shows these people and it says, kamala is for they them and not for you. And it's just like so it, it's so disgusting in the way they talk about. Specifically, by the way, we are going to war with each other over one. Like these people hate. Have so much hate in their hearts that we're talking about people who don't even amount to 1% of the American population. Trans people. They are a major minority. Like we are fight like people are like, if Kamala wins, everyone's going to be trans. That can't be true. It can't be true. It doesn't fucking. It's not going to happen. So it drives me fucking crazy that this wedge issue seems to fucking work on people. Because when I look and I see, even when I see a fucking 6 foot 8 yokel in a fucking MAGA hat or I see like A blue non binary cutie in a blue hair and a fucking dangly earring. I see two people. That's two fucking people. They both need food, water, shelter, A country that makes them feel safe. Why the fuck are we going so hard against? So imagine like this would be like if my platform was I think being over 7ft tall should be illegal. And 7 foot tall people need to have their own bathrooms. I can't have them going to a short person's bathroom and peeing really high at the urinal.
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They might see my dick.
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What if my son sees a seven foot guy take a shit and then he's like, what the fuck dad, I'm short, I want to be tall. And then you find out at school they're giving the kids leg extension surgeries to make them seven feet tall. Even though I don't want them to be seven feet tall, I want them to be five, eight like me. Dad, people, it's a small population. Let a motherfucker live. Let a they them fucker live. Let everybody just do what the fuck they want. I don't give a shit what you do in your home if it doesn't hurt anyone else. How hard of a rule is that to live by? You don't, I guarantee. I don't even want to get into it because politics is not. Podcasts aren't the place for politics. Cuz I do have Mitt Romney on next week is my.
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Oh my God.
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And like all the other, all the other famous podcasters are getting like Trump and Vance and shit. And I'm like, I got Mitt Romney's cousin Dick Romney. He owns a bicycle rental shop in Provo, Utah. He's going to fucking rip it up with us. Dude, so angry right now. I'm sorry guys, I'm sorry. I cast my vote already and I got to still watch $1 million worth of ad buys knowing full well that like there are unhoused people. There are so many reasons what we could use this money for. Instead we're blowing it all on marketing. We're marketing and then the President's going to get the job and be like, fuck, dude, in four years, if I'm not elected again, shit will hit. It's just going to start the fucking cycle over. Speaking of start the cycle over, let's get to the fucking podcast segue.
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Woo.
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Well, I need like 11 minutes to recover from that, so. Oscar, I thought I was too.
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I was like, oh my God, is Gabrius gonna faint right now?
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I had to like stop myself because I'M like, is this gross how angry I'm getting? So I just stopped myself.
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You're the right amount of angry.
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Yeah. I do feel justified.
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Absolutely. If people like you are the status quo. If. If people aren't as angry as you.
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They're not watching.
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They're not watching.
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Thank you.
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They don't know what's going on. They don't know what's going on.
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We're hungry for it.
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Look at me more.
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As Americans, that's what we do. Man.
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I can't wait, man.
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I just.
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I don't care who's the President. I just want House of Dragon to come back. I got to know.
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I don't care who the President is. I just want another season of the Golden Bachelor.
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What? Kamala won the masked Singer. No, dude, the campaign. Oh, sorry.
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Kamala wins the Masked Singer.
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She might. If she. If she. On the day before election day, popped out as the winner of Masked Singer, she'd be the president.
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Listen, Sarah Palin was on the Masked Singer. Rudy Giuliani was on the Masked Singer.
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That was the first time I've ever seen Ken Jiang have, like, integrity about. He was like, all right, I like money as much as the next guy, but this is gross. This is a bridge too far.
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Which I was like, good on you.
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Yeah. Thank you, Dr. Ken. Good.
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Thank you, Dr. Ken.
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Have you been. It's spooky movie season. We're at the end of October. Halloween is two days away at this point. As a matter of fact, the day this comes out. If you're listening, what tis Halloween.
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Who.
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Okay, listeners, just so you know, that wasn't a ghost. That was Oscar, the guest. So please don't flip out.
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Yeah, don't flip out. There is no ghost haunting the Headcomb Studios.
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No, there isn't.
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Who said that?
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It's me, a podcaster who was a guest on a Jake and Amir podcast, and it was so boring, I killed myself. They call me the segments ghost now. Keep forgetting I'm on video. And they just watch, like, caught in 4K.
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Talking Ghosts A lot like abras. That's the thing. Looks a lot.
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Ghost. Ghost has a Long island accent. Have you watched any new spooky. New to you. Spooky movies? I know. You're so well versed.
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Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. There's tons of new stuff that I. I mean, not new stuff. Stuff that's been around for a long time that I started watching that I really loved. Namely, there's a movie that I just saw that I was like, this movie's so good. It's called the Incredible Melting Man.
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Ooh, I don't know this.
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And it's from 1977.
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Oh, hell.
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And it's about an astronaut that goes into Saturn, and then they go. The spaceship goes through one of the rings, and then he lands back on Earth. He faints somehow lands back on Earth. We don't know how that happened. And then he becomes melty, and for the whole movie, he's, like, terrorizing people, but then he's literally melting as the movie progresses.
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Oh, that's great.
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Yeah. And the practical effects are done by horror movie legend Rick Baker.
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Very familiar, and one of the three names I know in that department. Yeah.
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And it's so good.
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Oh, I want to check this out now. Is he like, like a malicious Malevolent being at when he gets back. Or is he misunderstood? Is it. Or classic horror movie. We just misunderstood him the whole.
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Yeah, it's one of those things where he, like, comes back and the government is trying to cover it up. They're like, oh, yeah, no, they came back and it's fine.
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Yeah, no, ignore the milky stuff that happens.
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So he, like, breaks out of the rehab center and just wrecks havoc and the whole movie. Here's a. Here's a funny thing about this movie. It was originally written as, like, a spoof of the 1950, like, monster movie. So it's all. It was originally supposed to be very silly and stupid. So there's a lot of that.
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Oh, awesome.
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But then the producers were like, no, no, no. We want it silly, serious. So they were like, okay, we got to figure out a way to edit this movie that's kind of dramatic. So there's moments where the incredible shrink Shrinking man, the incredible melting man, is just walking around wood area just, like, replaying him, like, being launched into space and about, like, how people just forget about the heroes, you know, and, like, his absolute sadness of not coming back home, which is like a metaphor for veterans, you know.
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Oh, yeah.
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So there's that, and then there's the most unhinged scene between two old people getting killed by the fricking melting man in the campiest, stupidest way. So it merges both things that I love, like serious horror and stupid horror. It's great.
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Oh, that's awesome. I. I haven't watched. I've watched some of newer horror movies. No, old horror movies that were new to me. I've recycled a few old ones. Classics. Like, I rewatched the Fog for the first time in, like, 10 years. Yeah. Probably one of Carpenter's best scores. Probably one of his, you know, and.
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That'S saying a lot. Cause his scores are bangers.
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I think assault on Precinct 13 is first number one. Yeah, I think that's his best one. Yes. The Halloween song that we all know absolutely fucking rips. But the score for that movie also rips. But the scores of the full movies of assault on Precinct 13 and the fog, both absolute bangers, and the Big Trouble in Little China theme that he did is also bang. That's another one of my favorites. But the Fog was really fun on this viewing. I have such a newfound appreciation in the last few years to practical effects, I think as like a, you know, rebellion against everything else. Looking like digital and stuff. And the Fog has some great practical effects, but almost nothing really Happens like the first half of the movie.
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But that's like horror movies back in the day. Like the first hour, nothing happens.
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Yes. They have to lull you into a sense of complacency. You're just like, okay, I guess nothing's happening.
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The first 10 minutes of the movie, something big happens.
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Yes.
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And then for the rest of the.
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Let you know you're watching a horror movie. Yeah.
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You're like, hey, by the way, this is a scary movie. 40 minutes into the movie, nothing happen. And then the last 20 minutes, everything.
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Everything's going on. Yeah. And it's like a budget constraint thing. And also you can't. Like, I just did a great haunted house here. I did. I did Reign of Terror.
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Okay, talk to me about haunted houses, because I have never done a single one.
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What?
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Yeah, I know.
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I thought you would with like between your taste and the people you run with. Right.
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But I. I haven't been able to. They're either too expensive.
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Okay. Or hard to argue.
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Like I've heard people say it's not. Not that great. Or they're too intense. I don't want anyone touching me.
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Yes. Okay.
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Pushing me. Or any. Are you. Are you into that?
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You can touch me. Wait, did I misunderstood the question? You have blanket consent. Wait, what? No backsies.
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Someone kidnaps you, sends you away.
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Back over my head.
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Wait, tell me about this haunted house.
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So I've done a bunch of haunted houses. Something I didn't even know about until I like grown up non corny haunted houses was something I learned the year I moved to LA, which was 2012.
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Why is that like in the East Coast?
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That's not a big deal. No, I think in SoCal because it's so many movie adjacent people and I think there's more space.
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Yeah.
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Like you wouldn't want to take a train to New Jersey to go on a haunted house. But I drove to Thousand Oaks to do it.
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Right, right, right.
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So it's like, that's crazy. But that's not. It's not too. So I think that's the case as a matter of fact. Just to rewind to 2012, when I moved here, I moved here at the end of October. Cause November 1st we signed our lease. We moved here at the end of October. And when I arrived, some New York and LA friends were like, we're going to a haunted house. We have two extra tickets. You and Tiffany should come. And I went and. Cause my friend Erica Pell and Ben Rogers, who I've known from New York invited me. I go and then who do I meet there? None other than this crazy young woman who makes me laugh so much. Oh, hi. You're Gabriel. It was Betsy Sadaro, who's now literally one of my best friends, and I just met her cold at a haunted house.
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That was the first time you met each other?
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Yeah. That was.
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Honestly, that's. That's the best way to meet.
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It was like a meet cute for life. Yeah. And then I was like, we were having so much fucking fun. She was so funny. That was at whatever the name of the one that Neil Patrick Harris was like, the producer of for a while. I can't remember.
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What was delusion. Was it?
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Yes, it was delusion. It was delusion. That was a lot of fun. And then a friend of mine set up an annual kind of Hollywood Horror Nights trip, which is what Universal Studios flips to. And that's gotten Cartoonishly expensive. Cause you need that one's.
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I would like to, but anybody watching that wants to pay for my Universal Hollywood Horror Nights. That'd be great.
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I'll tag you in an Instagram if.
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You wanna give you a shout out.
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Thank you, Enie Boy nine.
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I love you, Bean boy nine.
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What happened to the first eight Bean boys? That one's gotten, like, cartoonishly expensive. And you kind of. You need the front of line pass in order to get there. Yeah, it's like. And so it's like $350.
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And they change the mazes every year. And you don't know which one's good, which one's bad.
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And it's. And they're like, so IP based now too, where you're like, oh, did you enjoy the Saw 2 maze or whatever? You're like, nah, it was okay. And they're always just okay.
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Yeah.
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This one I went to.
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What's it called again?
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It's called Reign of Terror and Thousand Oaks at Jan's Marketplace. If anyone. I don't know any of. I know none of the. I didn't even know Thousand Oaks was a thing. When I got the text. I was like, oh, Sherman Oaks, that's not far at all. And then I got. And I put it in Waze and I'm like, babe, we should leave now. It's one hour away. It's called Reign of Terror. Super fun. One walkthrough, one full maze, about 40 minutes. And very, very well production designed. No touching. No touching. No.
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What's the theme? What's the story?
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That's what's cool. Like, you kind of enter into an asylum and then like halfway Through. It's like, there's been an outbreak. And there's like. Then it becomes kind of, like, military adjacent, and then it becomes, like, weirdly religious. Like, so they hit, like, three archetypes.
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When you come out Christian, is that what you.
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I went in Christian.
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You get baptized by the end.
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Trump sitting, fucking Ave Maria. Shoot that fucker again. No, take that out.
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It's live. It's live. It's like, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck.
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But no, it kind of changes themes throughout a little. But, like, with. Narratively, like, we get to one room, and a guy's smoking a big fake cigar with, like, a beret and holding, like, a bullhorn. And a gun is like, God damn it. Get in line, boys. I'm telling you, there is something crazy out there. All right, now. All right, Group A, go. All right, folks. Everyone settle down. We have an outbreak in Containment Center. Since Group B, you can go now. You know, like, it's so much fun.
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I love that.
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And what was really cool, the reason all this came up was cause you mentioned how nothing happens and that lulz. This movie, you'd go through one room.
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It was so immersive. You thought it was a movie, dude.
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I was like, I beat the movie. I'm finally. And I'm finally acting in a movie. Something I wanted to do my whole life.
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Shut up. Finally, I'm a star in the movie.
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Thank God I smoked that PCP in the fucking Jan's Marketplace parking lot. So I felt like I was in the movie the whole time. No, it was such a fucking. One room would just be all production design with dummies and stuff and, like, looking really gruesome and interesting and very detailed. And my wife Tiffany, who likes scares, but really more appreciates ambiance and, like, design, she was going fucking apeshit for it. And then another room would have the same thing, but a couple of the dummies would be on mechanics and kind of jump scare you. And then another room would have some people in it, and the people would do their jump scares, like, anywhere else. But then sometimes people would be in the room and they wouldn't do anything. And then sometimes you go through two rooms and nothing would really happen. Then the third room would hit you. There was no pattern to it, so you kind of never got on. And then every once in a while, they would do, like, one big banger. One. And one thing that I thought was really cool was in one corner. We kind of were turning a corner, and we had to stop in line. And then when we stopped over here was like down a 10 foot hallway, was a curtain and you were like, oh, what? Who knows? All of a sudden the curtain opens and two women on brooms just come soaring 10ft super fast.
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You mean witches? Two women on brooms?
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Hey, I'm not even throwing it. They can't say the word witch. Get back here or else I'll have you and your little cats too. No, they were clearly witch adjacent. Okay. I don't need like a bunch of 45 year old white women in the SoCal area who are in the tarot coming for me for anti witch slander. So many women in my life have now started calling themselves witches. Yeah. Including my, my wife, my partner is now calls herself. That's that. Well, that's that witch bitch. That's that witch stuff. Sorry, that was witchy of me. I know, I'm like, yeah, okay. Hey, couples therapist. My partner calls herself a witch.
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Can I do that?
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Can I be a warlock? But it was such a. Oh, and of course they can't touch you. And I was there with some mutual friends. And you know Cody Fisher from. She was like, she was behind me. She screamed so loud, she's like, holy shit. One of them touched me. It fudgeing blew my mind. I don't think they were supposed to be so scary. So scary. And then when we got to the end of it, it was Hubel who had done it. He like reached through like a window and just touched her and she screamed.
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See, that's the best kind of person to experience horror shit with. I tend to be so like, I'm. I'm particularly not very scared of horror movies.
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Yeah.
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But watching it with someone who is super scared of that stuff is the most fun thing ever.
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I want to talk about that. This is a good call. Let's talk about this a little. Because that's what I found when I started going to those haunted houses. Like you can easily cross your arms and not enjoy it at all and be like, dumb, that guy's in the corner. Clearly that dummy's on a spring. But if you gotta let yourself, you.
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Gotta let yourself go.
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And the ways I help myself get into it more is a little bit of cannabis kind of gets me a little more anxious and a little less, A little less like fully realizing what's going. Yeah, yeah. And so that, and then going with people who are, who are get spooked.
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Out and you buy into their fantasy too.
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Then it is as fun to be scared as it is to have someone next to you. Be super scared. Also, if you're in front of Cody or insert a different friend and they scream, you get you too. Yeah. It works so fucking well for me.
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B
The only obstacle is I know myself very well, and I would feel if the scare actor isn't good enough, I start feeling really bad.
- [27:54]
A
Oh, yeah.
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B
And then my fear is like, should I. And then I. I'm like, I'm the kind of person who. It will, like, encourage people by being like, you're doing a good job either by, like, laughing too hard or, like, over overselling.
- [28:10]
A
Overselling. Oh, you get, like, the vapors and paint.
- [28:14]
B
You're so stupid scary.
- [28:16]
A
Ooh, you're a big scary man. And they're like, all right.
- [28:19]
B
Yeah. It feels a little patronized.
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A
Yeah.
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B
Yeah. And that's my big fear is like, if. If you're not coming at it 100%, then I'm like, oh, then I give 100%.
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A
Yeah.
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B
And then I feel like I'm the. I'm acting to, like, sort of stroke your ego.
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A
Interesting, because I thought after, like, years of watching bad comedy, which is, like, part of, like, a back. A slight side effect of our chosen professions is that sometimes no one is good on the lineup that you're watching, or sometimes you're. It's all. And watching so much bad comedy has given me the superpower to be like, hey, these scare actors are at least getting paid.
- [28:57]
B
But for me, watching so much bad comedy makes me so sensitive to the person.
- [29:04]
A
I feel that.
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B
And. And also for me, watching stand up too, especially when standups start attacking the audience. Like, I feel like, oh, my God, it is my fault that I'm not, like, laughing.
- [29:14]
A
I am.
- [29:15]
B
Yeah. So then I start doing that because I'm like, don't attack us, please.
- [29:18]
A
Yes. Puerto Rico is a garbage island. Tony Hinchcliffe, what are you doing at the MSG Trump rally?
- [29:25]
B
Not a cut to me. Just like me.
- [29:27]
A
Like, what a fucking grab that you looking the way you look are at the Trump rally, like, laughing. They cut to just like in every comedy special when they're like, you know, Latino people be like, cut to one Latino person. Like, yeah, I approve of that joke.
- [29:42]
B
You do that.
- [29:45]
A
I approve of. Of that joke. Don't worry. The editor lets you know. You can laugh at this as well.
- [29:51]
B
There was a. There was a cut to at a Trump rally, and what's his name, Vinnie from Jersey Shore was there.
- [29:57]
A
Oh.
- [29:58]
B
But it was like, a 0.2 second. They were be able to, like, identify who it was. So, like, listen, if you're A public figure. You gotta know.
- [30:06]
A
What are you gonna go to a rally for?
- [30:08]
B
I know.
- [30:09]
A
I don't even go through rallies for stuff I. I do care about.
- [30:12]
B
I do believe it's so silly.
- [30:13]
A
It's just like too busy to go rally. I'm like, what am I rallying for? I just be in this room and go, yes, yes, Queen, go off. We'll vote for you. Yes, Coach Tim Waltz, you got our vote. Like what the fuck do you need? I will say I'd like to call out. Tim Waltz and I have something in common. He was the president or the teacher advisor for the Gay Straight alliance at his school and a football coach. And he knew he had to take that job because he thought it would be a bigger step to see the football coach take that job over any other teacher. And I was the only straight kid in the Gay Straight alliance in the year 1999 on Long Island.
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B
Oof.
- [30:54]
A
I would like to a little crazy second to only the five gay kids who were the five out or at least going to the alliance.
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B
You were an ally pre 9 11.
- [31:04]
A
Yes, dude. Damn. Yeah, I know a lot of people when the second tower went down was like, let's support our gay homies. You know how many gay dudes just die? But no, it was such a long time. And like it was really eye opening for me. Cause I was just like, I've always been like an open minded kid and not cared what people did. And then I was friends with. Now forgive me for using terms from the 90s, but there were like freaks at our school. Like we would call and they leaned into. We, we leaned into it. We would do dress weird be. And then it just so happened at a high percentage of those freaks were also in the gay. And I'm like, oh, everyone's just struggling with identity.
- [31:52]
B
Absolutely.
- [31:53]
A
And Shafiq, you just wear earrings and like, like the black yoga pants and everyone just thinks you dress like a woman and that makes you a freak. And now, now I'm meeting all of these people in this room and I'm like, oh, I. All right, I see what's okay. Yes. Wait. The three guys from that art class that we all took together. The three most interesting kids from that class. Okay, okay. I put it all together and I was football team, homecoming king.
- [32:24]
B
High school.
- [32:25]
A
This was high school.
- [32:25]
B
You had a Gay Straight alliance in high school?
- [32:27]
A
Yeah, my senior year was the first year of it. Yeah, I don't, I'm sure like you know an awful parent at a school board meeting shut it down or like they're turning our kids non binary. My son is now just the kids.
- [32:42]
B
They're the ones who made that commercial for Trump.
- [32:45]
A
Mephem High School is for they them, not for you. So fucking annoying. Oh, I was in El Paso, Texas with the action boys doing a show and we went to watch a movie on like one of those streaming sites, maybe Tubi, that has ads in it. And we kept getting this Ted Cruz ad that attacked his opponent and it was so cartoonish, it was like shot in black and white and like zoomed in on and his opponent. Forgive me for not thinking of his name if anyone in the Texas chat could come up with it. But he is, he is a non white person. They have him like colored down. Like he looks darker in this edit. It's black and white and he's like, whatever. Ryan Murphy says he wants boys in your girl's bathroom. He says it's okay for men to compete against women. And then cut to like the one picture of the transitioned swimmer who competed once or whatever. Like, and I apologize for not knowing any. All these people's names, but I could not get over like this. I'm like. And then I talked about it for like the week after. I'm like, fuck, Texas is crazy. And then that's why that when I was in LA watching the New York Yankees play the Dodgers, I get that ad. I'm like, fuck this.
- [33:58]
B
Well, because, I mean, I think it's like they're. They know who the target audience is. So they're like, no one's going to. Yeah, people are going to agree with this.
- [34:06]
A
Yeah.
- [34:07]
B
You know what I mean? Like, the thing about these ads is that they work.
- [34:12]
A
That's what's really scary.
- [34:14]
B
It is just, it's not even if they work or not. It's just a sounding board to be like, hey, reminder. They're weird. They're weird.
- [34:21]
A
Reminder. This, this triggers you for some reason.
- [34:24]
B
Exactly.
- [34:24]
A
This triggers you for some reason, the idea that you're being remind like this. Oh, yeah. And it like, for the most, you know, aged, barely liberal centrist person that these kind of. Colin Allred. Thank you. D. Rose, 1983. Yeah, he was getting attacked like Colin Allred says he wants. And they kept saying stuff like boys in the girls bathroom, boys changing in front of girls. Not the other way around. Obviously something that would be like less scary and less predatory. Everything was. And I could. You could just see it. And then it was like, Ted Cruz at least lets us. Oh, Colin Allred doesn't even admit that there Are differences between boys and girls. And it's like, what is this context. Oh, and the other ad. Sorry, the other ad I saw was the Breakfast Club Charlamagne. The God, what's up, Bud? And his co host kind of just talking about that thing that passed where Kamala said, yes, if you're in prison and you want transition, you know, you want surgery, we'll do that, we'll support that or whatever. And it's. They are a sort of opinionated, half joking around and they're like, I don't know about this. I don't know about. And then they use that in an attack ad for Kamala. And I'm like, they don't know.
- [35:41]
B
They don't know. They don't know. They're like, at this point, they're just grasping.
- [35:44]
A
Yeah, but like, Charlamagne is like now accidentally in a fucking anti Kamala ad. A guy who's voting for Kamala.
- [35:51]
B
Yeah, exactly.
- [35:52]
A
I don't.
- [35:52]
B
But they don't care. They don't care. They're like, oh, shit. I want to. Your people talk shit about your. Your own people.
- [35:58]
A
Yeah, great.
- [35:59]
B
We're going to use that.
- [36:00]
A
That shit. They love that.
- [36:01]
B
Fear is a huge tactic for the far right. They love keeping themselves scared.
- [36:08]
A
Yeah.
- [36:09]
B
That is how they.
- [36:10]
A
What's crazy is that they don't make the other side afraid. They make their own side of fright.
- [36:15]
B
They make their own side of freight.
- [36:16]
A
Yeah. Which is such a crazy.
- [36:18]
B
That's a tactic. That's been a tactic since 9 11.
- [36:23]
A
I would go back. I bet you it's been a tactic for hundreds of years this time.
- [36:27]
B
You know what I mean? Fear, right. Fear is what gives you. I mean, how timely that we're talking about horror movies when it's like, yeah, fear is happening year round 24 7.
- [36:37]
A
It is crazy that in this current climate, it's like, let me just settle down and watch all the Saw movies. Like something like the news is as like in the Clockwork Orange when they hold open Alex's eyes and give him the Ludovico treatment and watch all that violence. That's like what just putting the news on is now. Oh, yeah, give me Freddy Krueger and Jason. I need them. They are cuter and friendlier than most.
- [37:03]
B
Give me some campy burnt bitch.
- [37:05]
A
Yeah, that's right, bitch. No politics are allowed in the dream world. Yes, bitch.
- [37:14]
B
I love bitchy Freddy Krueger.
- [37:16]
A
I love Freddy Krueger. He makes me laugh so much. The fact that on top of like, I can get in your dreams and Kill you via your dreams and show you your biggest fear. He's also like, nice hat.
- [37:26]
B
Oh, my God.
- [37:27]
A
Gaylord. You know, he like, he just kind of. He like offends you in like catty ways. Aren't you a little full? Like to a fat woman or whatever? You're like, why? He's also catty. Like, he's got so much stuff.
- [37:41]
B
He's so bitter. I mean, like his, you know, the kid's parents burned him to death.
- [37:45]
A
Yes. Yeah.
- [37:46]
B
But he's someone who's so bitter and petty. I love it. Ooh, I love it.
- [37:52]
A
Which reminds me, we're gonna start talking about horror movies. So chat if you have any recos.
- [37:56]
B
Oh, yeah.
- [37:57]
A
Any questions?
- [37:57]
B
What have you seen?
- [37:58]
A
Yeah, what have you seen? Or if you're looking for anything in a certain category, shout it out and me and Oscar will. Will help out as best we can. I just want to say I finally, I had never seen a new nightmare. The so good. The fully meta one. Yes.
- [38:13]
B
It's a precursor to Scream.
- [38:14]
A
Yeah.
- [38:15]
B
It's like with. I think without a new nightmare, Scream would not have happened.
- [38:19]
A
Right. Because it is like the bridge movie and it is all Wes, right?
- [38:22]
B
Yeah, well, it's. It was. I don't think Scream was written by Wes Craven. I might be wrong, but definitely directed by Wes Craven. And yeah, it's. It's that sort of weird meta track and it's my favorite. Is it my favorite Nightmare on Street movie? I think it is. Okay, three is great.
- [38:39]
A
I was about to say three more years is my.
- [38:42]
B
Three is like.
- [38:42]
A
Three is the best.
- [38:43]
B
Three is a popcorn movie.
- [38:44]
A
You know, I want to talk about. Here's why I like three and I can maybe guess. It does feel like a D and D party, right?
- [38:51]
B
Yes.
- [38:52]
A
It's like you have like, we get superpowers and then we work together to fight the evil and it feels like X Men or D and D, which was like all I cared about when.
- [39:00]
B
I was a kid. And also it like explores this idea of dreams and having power in dreams. Because the other ones don't at all.
- [39:07]
A
Right. You are powerless in your dreams, which you frequently feel like. Yes. Sometimes when you're having a nightmare, but then sometimes when you're. When you're having like a good dream. When you're having a good dream. When Hannah Wantingham shows up in your dream. Spoiler alert. I'm obsessed with. Yeah, of course. I'm obsessed with the giant broad shouldered blonde.
- [39:30]
B
Shame. Ding, ding, ding.
- [39:32]
A
Shame indeed. Shame.
- [39:35]
B
Wait, is that the shame lady?
- [39:36]
A
She is the Shame lady from Game of Thrones. What? Yeah. And she's an absolute smoke show in. In what's the Ted Lasso?
- [39:45]
B
Yeah. Yes, everywhere.
- [39:48]
A
She's. She's an absolute. And she's gonna keep. I think Ted Lasso kicked her off and like that. Now she gets to do stuff like all the time. Yeah, I watched her like Christmas special that she did that was kind of like old, old timey where she sings and dances and has like the gay. The LA gay choir sing with her.
- [40:04]
B
She's also does. She's like theater.
- [40:06]
A
She's like the theater. Yeah, she's like musical theater person, which I did not know at all before. You know, I still have a crush on her despite finding that out.
- [40:17]
B
You're like, all right, fine.
- [40:20]
A
Are you a theater person? No, no. Yeah. No, no, no, no, no. I'm just gay, dude.
- [40:24]
B
I'm just gay. I'm just gay.
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A
You can be gay.
- [40:26]
B
I'm theatrical.
- [40:28]
A
I'm full of drama.
- [40:31]
B
I am the off Broadway production of my life. That's fucked up.
- [40:38]
A
Beam either I'm the Tony Award winning actor.
- [40:41]
B
Do I have a self esteem problem?
- [40:43]
A
Maybe I'm an experimental black box production of John Gabris presents my 300 pound life. What?
- [40:52]
B
I'd go see that. I'd go see that for sure. Okay, let's see what people. The substance. Have you seen the substance?
- [41:01]
A
I have not watched the 70s yet. I gotta go see that. I think I've said this enough times, but Tiff went and saw it and she said it was too triggering and had to stop watching. And not because of the body horror, but because of like the. I guess it really gets into like the beauty standards of women and aging and. And making mistakes that you'll pay for later and shit. Like she said it got her going crazy. I was like, woof. Oh, New Nightmare is the scariest one in my opinion. Okay. I did.
- [41:32]
B
Really scariest one.
- [41:34]
A
I don't know what is two? The one that's in the gay one. Oh, two is the gay one.
- [41:40]
B
Yeah. Two is the gay one.
- [41:41]
A
Is four. The insane asylum, which is the one. Or maybe that's a flashback.
- [41:45]
B
Okay, three is where they go to the. The tent, like the juvenile.
- [41:49]
A
Right, whatever, Taryn. And yeah, of course I remember only the hot brunette with knives. There's two other.
- [41:55]
B
She was great.
- [41:56]
A
She was so good. She was. That one has some great kills in it when. When Freddie comes out of the TV and shit.
- [42:01]
B
Oh yeah. You ready for prime time, bitch?
- [42:05]
A
Are you ready for prime time, bitch? You better set your dvr, you dumpy cunt.
- [42:11]
B
Okay, best, best. Freddy is petty. The best death in any Nightmare on Elm street movie is in, I Believe four with the Weightlifting Girl. I feel like you would be into her for sure. Yeah, She's a weightlifter and she's scared of cockroaches. Do you know? And then in her dream, she's, like, lifting weights, and then Freddie puts more weights on her and it's too heavy, and then her arms snap and then she slowly turns into a cockroach and she's walking around this, like, long hallway, and then it starts turning into a roach trap and her skin keeps falling off and she just turns into a roach and he, like, squeezes all the goo. Oh, it's the best. It is the best day. Oh, that's awesome.
- [42:59]
A
I gotta. I gotta watch that.
- [43:00]
B
So good. I can watch that dead and breakfast. Yes. Creep show. Oh, yeah. But more for the raft. Yes. The looking back at the raft. The raft is a bit problematic. Looking back, that was my favorite short. Do you know the Raft?
- [43:13]
A
Yes, that's the one where the group is out at the lake and it's like two couples or whatever.
- [43:18]
B
Yeah, there's a whole thing. Yeah, there's some.
- [43:21]
A
Yeah.
- [43:23]
B
Happy Death Day is funny. Yes.
- [43:25]
A
Um, so anything that. Here's a movie that really scared the shit out of me when I first saw it. Then me and Tiff Rewe both got really scared. Movie called a French movie called High Tension. Oh, it scared the fuck out of us.
- [43:38]
B
Okay, well, do you want to talk about the French. The new French horror of the early 2000s?
- [43:42]
A
Yeah, let's go.
- [43:43]
B
I could go in because that's when.
- [43:45]
A
We saw it in the early. So I think it's part of that. Yeah. Fucking foreign horror adds a whole layer because you're, like, reading subtitles the whole time and you. And you have, like, a little lack of context of like, are people supposed to be like that?
- [43:57]
B
And also, like, specifically French horror during that time is bat shit crazy.
- [44:02]
A
Oh, what else?
- [44:03]
B
What else tension is there? Have you seen inside?
- [44:05]
A
Which one is that?
- [44:06]
B
Dude, it's. Oh, okay. It's a Christmas movie. Watch it during the holidays. It's about a woman who was pregnant and her husband dies in a car accident. And so she's, like, alone during Christmas. She's about to have this baby and someone tries to break in the house to literally cut her stomach open to steal the baby from her. And it's literally. It's like the fucking grossest. If you liked High Tension. Yeah, you got to watch Inside.
- [44:38]
A
Oof.
- [44:39]
B
Yeah, well, you got to watch Martyrs.
- [44:41]
A
Oh, I just added that to my queue.
- [44:44]
B
Oh, it's so good. Not the American remake. Oh, you got to watch the French original movie.
- [44:49]
A
I think it's on Criterion, so maybe I trust them.
- [44:51]
B
Okay.
- [44:51]
A
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
- [44:53]
B
They would not have the American version. Martyrs. That's incredible.
- [44:59]
A
Okay. If I didn't have an action boys movie.
- [45:01]
B
It's gross. It's fucked up. It's great. I. Oof.
- [45:05]
A
Oh, I love. Now, do you have a sub genre of horror movies that you like a lot? Like, are you like, oh, guaranteed to slasher, supernatural, religious. Like you fuck with any of those specifically?
- [45:20]
B
I specifically like the 80s sort of B horror movie. Practical. I'm huge in practical effect.
- [45:27]
A
Me too. If that's it, I'm a big fan.
- [45:29]
B
Any CGI bullshit, I'm like, no, no, no, no. I don't like this. But any practical effect I like there is the Unholy Trinity for me. The three best movies ever made by one director. His name is Frank Hennin Lauderdale, and he directed three movies that I think are perfect. He made Brain Damage, he made Basket Case, Love Basket. He made Frankenhooker.
- [45:53]
A
Okay. I've seen Basket Case and Frankenhooker.
- [45:55]
B
I've not seen Damages is the best.
- [45:57]
A
Oh, that's so awesome.
- [45:59]
B
It's those three movies that really define my whole. My taste in everything.
- [46:03]
A
Yeah, you could just unpack it from there. Of course.
- [46:05]
B
That's so in New York, I used to do like a midnight movie show and I would have like a really like sort of B movie or shitty movie and have someone who worked in that movie come and talk like Mystery Science 3000 style. Yeah, yeah. And for my birthday, I wanted to have a Basket Case viewing party. And so I was able to get Beverly Bonner, who's one of the actresses in Basket Case. You've seen Basket Case?
- [46:30]
A
Yes, yes.
- [46:31]
B
She's like the. She plays like the prostitute.
- [46:34]
A
Yes, yes.
- [46:34]
B
And I was like, oh, my gosh, yes. It's so great. And then she's like, oh, I'll talk to Frank about it. Maybe he wants. He wants to come. And I was like, please invite Frank. I got an email from. From the director Frank Cannon Lauder, who's.
- [46:44]
A
Who you just described as creating the holy trinity of my hero.
- [46:47]
B
He's like, literally, my heroes are John Waters, Frank Cannon Lauder. Those are my heroes. And holy.
- [46:53]
A
That is so funny because if, like, I could, I would put those two ingredients in to make my Oscar potion.
- [47:00]
B
Yeah, yeah.
- [47:01]
A
It Makes total sense. That's awesome.
- [47:03]
B
And he sent me an email. Email, who was. And he wrote like, listen, you little. I know what you're gonna do. You're gonna watch this movie and you're gonna make fun of me the entire time. And I was like, I wrote back. I was. First of all, I was like, he emailed me. This is the best day of my life.
- [47:16]
A
That's awesome. He called me a little shit.
- [47:18]
B
Yeah, he called me a little shit. I was like, listen, I'm a huge fan. You don't understand. Your movies are perfect. Like, I would never disrespect you in that way. And he was like, if you don't, if you continue to do this show, I will ruin. I will call my lawyers and I will release a cease and desist and I will, I will make your life miserable. And I was like, this is the best day of my life. And he single handedly shut down my show.
- [47:47]
A
And you're honored to have it.
- [47:48]
B
But now I'm like, this is such a godsend. God, it was so cool. It's the best, it's the coolest moment of my life.
- [47:56]
A
Oh, that's awesome. Yeah, that is really fucking cool. Oh, man. I watched a newer horror movie this year that I really loved. I think it was called Where Evil Lurks or When Evil Lurks.
- [48:09]
B
I think it's a Spanish. Yeah, Spanish movie.
- [48:11]
A
Holy shit. That one is fun, man.
- [48:14]
B
So you like the bloody gory stuff?
- [48:16]
A
Yeah, I don't dislike it.
- [48:18]
B
What's your pocket?
- [48:19]
A
Yeah, I don't know what my pocket is. It kind of goes all over the place. I guess I like the gory, violent stuff from my love of action. I think kind of bleeds over there. But I really do enjoy like, I enjoy craft. And whether that means like the craft, I. Mr. We are the weirdos. You're not a 42 year old guy married to a witch and not familiar with the craft. Okay, brother. I really like to see the ambiance. Like if a horror movie makes me feel haunted or if another horror movie looks like practical effects that pulled off that go like, give you that, like, ooh, I can't believe. Ooh, how'd they do that? Oh, that's so interesting. That's the kind of shit for me, I guess if I'm gonna go like, the Exorcist is one of my favorite horror movies of all time. That is what the Halloween movie we're watching tomorrow. I love Halloween. Of course, who doesn't? And then I get like, I always liked Freddy And Jason, but they don't land on your, like, favorite. I might throw Event Horizon, which is more of a sci fi horror, but.
- [49:35]
B
Again, it speaks to the practical effects stuff.
- [49:37]
A
Yep.
- [49:38]
B
It's fucked up.
- [49:39]
A
It's weird.
- [49:40]
B
It's really weird. Yeah, it's really weird.
- [49:43]
A
Yeah. Oh, and this. I rewatched Poltergeist this month. Dude, that is a fucking brilliant. I watched three Tobe Hooper movies. Actually. I watched Texas Chainsaw, Life Force and Poltergeist.
- [49:59]
B
What did you think of Life Force?
- [50:00]
A
What did you think I thought of it?
- [50:01]
B
I didn't like it.
- [50:02]
A
Yeah, no, you didn't like huge tv. I know. Yeah.
- [50:04]
B
I was like, okay, it's a. It's a sexy. It's a sophomore porn.
- [50:07]
A
Yeah. Well, it is like a movie about, like, guess what? A woman could kill whoever she wanted because men are stupid horny. But I will say that movie has great special effects of great practicals of the people getting drained of the past.
- [50:20]
B
And they're like, ooh, it's so good, that movie.
- [50:23]
A
That's true. In case you're wondering, I just don't want to come across as a pure perv, but Life Force is about an alien vampire kind of woman who can drain the life force from men, but she happens to have big naturals and hates wearing clothing. So, you know, so she would have got. She would have got me in minute fucking one. I would have been like, there's a.
- [50:44]
B
Lot of slices in Gabrius pie chart. And perv is just a small little slice.
- [50:48]
A
Yeah, it's just a small portion. Yeah. I got a little dash of John Waters in there.
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B
There's a movie that I think you'd really like. It's called Revenge.
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A
Oh, it's. It's. Is it the substances woman's first movie? The director of substances first movie. Yes. I just. I just heard about this.
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B
It's so good. It has that, like, actiony vibe and it's like, really bloody, really cool. And I also, for me, I really love, like, there. It's a. It's a sub genre called Good for Her, which is when a woman who gets fucked over, like, gets revenge.
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A
We just watched Ready or Not.
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B
Oh, yeah, that's another one.
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A
Yeah, that's a good for her one. Yeah. Where just a beautiful woman kills everyone who tried to fuck her over. Yeah.
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B
I'm on board that. That is like the most obvious trope of the Good for you, I spit on your grave.
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A
Revenge.
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B
It's so good.
- [51:40]
A
I have not seen Psycho Gorman, and I have not watched the Terrifier series either. Oh, we started Terrifier one the other night. I was like, tiff should just watch all three. We started Terrifier one and she was like, this is not the vibe for right now. Hard to argue with.
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B
I mean, I get it. It's. It's the weakest. There is one kill in the first terrifier. That is nasty in the best way.
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A
Oh, yeah.
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B
But Terrifier two, I gotta.
- [52:10]
A
All right, I'm gonna. I'm gonna do them. Did you see three yet?
- [52:13]
B
No, not yet.
- [52:14]
A
Oh, I'm so curious.
- [52:15]
B
Ooh, terrifier two.
- [52:16]
A
Ooh. Oh, someone out there. Oh, hillybilly72 says the thing. Fuck.
- [52:22]
B
Of course.
- [52:23]
A
Yeah, the thing.
- [52:24]
B
Naturally. Yes.
- [52:25]
A
Yeah, the thing absolutely fucking rips, man. First of all, classic dudes, like, just great guys in that movie. Like Kurt Russell is insanely handsome, obviously.
- [52:38]
B
Oh my God, the Kurt Russell period is just hot as fuck.
- [52:41]
A
He's got me. He's got me. He's awesome. He's got me. The joke I like to make is he's got me asking follow up questions about what exactly the cue is and.
- [52:51]
B
If I fit in.
- [52:52]
A
Yeah, I know I'm not fully B, but tell me more about the Queue.
- [53:01]
B
Llc. Yeah, those are good. Oh, Wreck is also really good.
- [53:05]
A
Oh, I loved Wreck. Yeah, I don't usually love found footage horror movies neither.
- [53:11]
B
Yeah, I think out of all the tropes, all the genres, that's my least favorite. Yeah, I get motion sick. Like when I saw Cloverfield in theaters and I went to the bathroom to throw up, I was like, I can't be playing this. This shit is like Tomb Raider. Like I can't. I'm getting nauseous.
- [53:25]
A
Yeah, the third person view, just first person view just gets to you for a while.
- [53:29]
B
I hate it. I hate it.
- [53:30]
A
Oh, that's so fucking.
- [53:31]
B
Oh, the Vitch is really good.
- [53:33]
A
Oh, I loved Vitch.
- [53:36]
B
Yeah.
- [53:36]
A
Yeah.
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B
Did you watch?
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A
Welcome to prime time, Vivich. Welcome. Well, nice of you to meet the black goat Delic sleep of. Oh, Veronica Scars, by the way, great handle how Host is a great zoo movie, bro.
- [53:58]
B
Yes. Veronica friend, you know what to do. This is great. Everyone should. And it's short.
- [54:05]
A
Yes.
- [54:06]
B
It's like 54 minutes.
- [54:07]
A
It's like anyone who wants to watch Host or the. The. The host. The Korean sci fi horror movie is kind of fun. But watch Host. And if you are alone, I would say watch it on a laptop with headphones.
- [54:19]
B
Yes.
- [54:19]
A
It changes the vibe insanely. And it really. It got me, got my heart racing.
- [54:25]
B
All the Actors were in charge of all of the effects.
- [54:27]
A
Yeah, the movie, the director. And people talked them through the effects. Cause it's a fully a Covid movie.
- [54:32]
B
So could you imagine if you were cast in a movie and then had to be sound?
- [54:36]
A
Oh, that's what you have to do when you audition now.
- [54:39]
B
Here. Say less.
- [54:40]
A
I mean, to put on a podcast, I need a team of, like, super talented people. But when it's like, hey, do you want to be in Twisted Metal? Go film yourself in your fucking hotel like a loser.
- [54:50]
B
God damn. During the pandemic, there was a video that was going around of like, someone auditioning for a Captain Crunch commercial. And we saw that person self tape, and we saw the final product, and it was like a shot for shot. This man shot like 70 different shots of himself eating Captain Crunch and jumping around. And then the subject was like, this is what you should do in your self tapes. And I said that. I guess I'm not working.
- [55:16]
A
No, yeah, I was about to say. I agree with you though. I haven't booked a commercial of a self tape ever. So maybe. Maybe. Yeah.
- [55:22]
B
No, no, no.
- [55:23]
A
Oh, where do you fall on Hereditary and Midsommar?
- [55:26]
B
Oh, yeah, yeah.
- [55:27]
A
The Ari Oster movies.
- [55:28]
B
I do like them.
- [55:29]
A
I like them a lot. I. I don't. I didn't think Midsommar was scary at all. Obviously. I don't think it's trying to be either. Hereditary got to me a little bit. And then the third act got kind.
- [55:38]
B
Of funny and corny, but see anything with Toni Collette, I'm like, I'm gonna love it.
- [55:41]
A
Yeah, I'm on board. The thing I really like about Midsommar is that there's like a moment after the guy. Spoiler. Jumps off a cliff and, like, kills himself. And then they hit him with the hammer to finish off.
- [55:51]
B
Right, right, right, right.
- [55:52]
A
Where the. One of the dudes, the kind of tall guy who's in the crew is like, what are we still doing here? Let's get the fuck. He literally is saying, like, the bit response you would do watching it, he's like, what are we.
- [56:05]
B
Let's get the.
- [56:06]
A
And they're like, no. He's like, he fucking killed them, man. Like, he's just being so real.
- [56:11]
B
In a horror movie, I. What would be your role in a horror movie?
- [56:14]
A
Okay, this is funny. You say this now. I'm swearing all you Twitch viewers and listeners to secrecy because I have this idea for a movie that I'm working on, and it's called and I've talked about. I've talked about in the past, but there's always like the big goofy guy in a horror movie who's like, I got the beers and you know, like, and so like named Ox or Beef or something like that. So this character is called Beefer and he's like just the big fat guy who's like, are we getting wasted tonight or what? He's the one who's there without a girl. Like everyone else is coupled up. You're just the comedic and I'm just a comedic relief. But then it's revealed I'm the killer.
- [56:51]
B
Oh.
- [56:52]
A
And I'm like, what the fuck man? I didn't even get killed last night.
- [56:55]
B
You know what's okay, so there's a movie called My Bloody Valentine, the original one where there is a character like that, but that guy fucks that guy like saves the day. He's like. I was like, wow, this is an 80s movie and they're subverting the genre.
- [57:09]
A
Oh, I haven't watched the 80s one. I think I watched a later one with the guy who throws. Yeah, the 3D one. Yeah, exactly. I was like, I think I saw it in the theater in a weird way. Yeah, okay.
- [57:18]
B
My bloody vampire.
- [57:20]
A
That's so funny.
- [57:21]
B
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
- [57:23]
A
Verbz the DJ is asking about ex Pearl. Maxine. Thoughts?
- [57:27]
B
Ah, I just saw Maxine last night.
- [57:29]
A
Oh, that's funny. I think Maxine's the. For me the order of enjoying them is the order they came out. X. Pearl, Maxine. I think Pearl is an amazing fucking movie. X is more fun, more horror movie.
- [57:40]
B
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
- [57:40]
A
Pearl is so, so good and Maxine I think is the weakest. But I. It's still like 80s sleazy Hollywood. So it's like set up for me to kind of love it.
- [57:49]
B
Right. You know, for me it is in order of good to bad. Pearl, Maxine, X. Oh, X being the lowest. I didn't really like X that much.
- [57:59]
A
Okay, that makes sense. That's fair.
- [58:00]
B
And Maxine was again practical effects, really cool that nod to like 80s like gross neon soaked LA. It was like kind of cool.
- [58:10]
A
Yeah. And I have a. I have a. But while I just always rattle off all my crushes, I should let everyone know about Elizabeth debicki who is 6 foot 4 or whatever. And I fell in love with her in the most heterosexual way possible. The film tenet. The most bro y way ever. The film tenet. I know, I know what it sounds like. Okay, I'm a fucking cliche. You saying the kind of the big fat guy party guy becomes the hero reminds me of. I really enjoyed the movie Cabin in the Woods. That kind of breaks the format like halfway through.
- [58:53]
B
Yeah.
- [58:53]
A
If anyone's. If you haven't seen that, I don't want to give any spoilers.
- [58:56]
B
But just so good. Well, also, like, where have you been? You need to see this movie.
- [58:59]
A
Yeah. You need to see Cabin in the woods.
- [59:01]
B
But Tucker and Dale Verbs. The dj. That's what I was gonna say. Have you seen that?
- [59:06]
A
No, I haven't.
- [59:07]
B
Oh my God. You need to watch it.
- [59:09]
A
Okay.
- [59:09]
B
Because it's about these two guys that are like redneck hicks. And these teenagers go into a cabin in the woods and they're so. The stereotype is like they're the bad guys, the creep. And the kids are like terrified of them, but they're just two normal rednecks. And then people start dying, but by accident in a weird way. And everyone thinks it's them killing them. It's really good.
- [59:32]
A
Oh, that's funny. I gotta check that out. That's. That's really interesting. Oh, in Cabin in the woods the thing I like is that they're controlling the people in the cabin with gas a little bit. But the stoner character is immune to it. Cause he's constantly breathing weed in instead of. And he then at one point he has like the coffee cup that becomes a long bong. He uses it as a weapon. And I'm like, oh, fuck that.
- [59:57]
B
That's perfect.
- [59:57]
A
Also features that amazing moment. Fuck it. Spoilers fast forward. If you haven't seen Kevin in the woods yet. Oh, well, you should. I have like eight listeners. I can't believe all of you have had to have seen it. That when Chris Hemsworth goes off on the dirt bike, he's like, I'm going to be the hero. And he launches and just hits an invisible wall. It's so fucking good. It's so good.
- [60:19]
B
We love it. We love a subversion of the trope. Like more movies like that.
- [60:24]
A
Yeah. The. The 80s. Someone's mentioning the Blob cuz Action Boys covered the Blob for this month. For Horror Boys, the 80s blob is so. And not just because Del Close, the grandfather of improv, is in it. The Blob. That has some fun practical effects.
- [60:42]
B
Oh yeah.
- [60:42]
A
And it really plays with your body versus spaces. Cause the Blob can only do so much. But at one point the Blob pulls a chef or a cook into the drain. And you believe that the force that they're pulling him with would smush this guy. And you're like, just like. Imagine you hear it, like, crunch and you're like, oh, that is fucking awesome.
- [61:08]
B
Also, to make something like the Blob a scary thing, it's truly impressive.
- [61:14]
A
Yeah. And it's just like. It's purple goo. We'll figure out ways to make it more.
- [61:18]
B
Yeah, you can see the insides of, like, people slowly disintegrating inside its body.
- [61:23]
A
Veronica Scars is saying Merman Pop. Oh, that's from. Okay, that's from Cabin, uh, cabin in the woods.
- [61:30]
B
Yeah, I get it now. The Evil Dead. Oh, the Evil Dead movies are good. I will say a standout is the Evil Dead remake. Not directed by Sam Raimi.
- [61:39]
A
Right.
- [61:40]
B
I'm not talking about Evil Dead Rise. There is an Evil Dead remake that is perfection.
- [61:45]
A
And Bruce Campbell's not in that. Right?
- [61:47]
B
He's not in that. Right.
- [61:47]
A
Okay.
- [61:48]
B
He's not in that.
- [61:48]
A
Yeah.
- [61:49]
B
And it's so, so good.
- [61:51]
A
Tiff worked on the Ash vs Evil Dead series, so. Yeah, she was in the marketing department for it. So we got. We got to go to New Zealand while I was being filmed, which was awesome. But how were they. Yeah, but also it was cool because we had to be like, let's watch them all and then go hang out with Bruce Campbell on set. Yeah, it was cool.
- [62:08]
B
Wait, you got to hang out with Bruce Campbell?
- [62:09]
A
I got to be in the same location as Bruce Campbell. Let's not say he was ready to hang out with me. Possibly anybody. Oh, Luna Magic saying RoboCop. Great body horror. Interesting. It is. But yeah, RoboCop is just, to me, such a. A, an amazing, amazing action movie, slash social commentary movie. Because Verhoeven has maybe the best perspective on America than anyone.
- [62:37]
B
I mean, Showgirls.
- [62:39]
A
Amazing.
- [62:40]
B
Starship Troopers.
- [62:41]
A
Amazing.
- [62:42]
B
Incredible.
- [62:43]
A
I'm doing my part.
- [62:44]
B
Troopers. Would you consider that, like, what genre is that? Just.
- [62:48]
A
I would say that's like action or sci fi.
- [62:50]
B
Yeah, but it's.
- [62:51]
A
But it's. It's such an intense and articulate and well aimed satire that it's, you know, satire is really good, but not everyone knows it's satire.
- [63:04]
B
Cause it works as just a dumb action movie.
- [63:07]
A
Yes.
- [63:08]
B
And it works as a satire as well.
- [63:10]
A
And I remember the first time I saw it, I fucking thought it was so cool. Just imagining getting to shoot machine guns at big bugs. Yeah. There is a sequence. Paul Verhoeven, of course, who has no qualms about nudity, has got a scene where all the soldiers, men and women are showering together, which I thought was awesome.
- [63:27]
B
I saw that when I was like, what? Nine years old and was just like, dude, this rules.
- [63:32]
A
Yeah. And the rumor is that when they said they were gonna do it, it's like, oh, so everyone in the crew gets to stand around fully dressed and ogle all our naked bodies. And Paul Verhoeven was like, well, fine then, and took off all his clothes and shot the scene naked.
- [63:47]
B
What? This is canon.
- [63:50]
A
I believe that's a tr.
- [63:52]
B
This is the kind of America Trump has warned you of. Me boys taking showers with girls, directors also being naked. What the hell?
- [64:07]
A
But I found that to be so. And then as I. Every time I watched it every couple of years, as I was just slightly more informed and slightly more understanding of the world by the time. But when you finally watch it and Neil Patrick Harris shows up at the end in like gray jack boots and like a fuhrer hat on, and you're like, like, oh, wait a minute. They're the bad guys.
- [64:28]
B
But we don't. You know, when you watch it for the first time, you're like, yeah, kill those bugs. Yeah. And it's just insert that rod into that vagina shaped bug. You know, it's like, okay.
- [64:38]
A
Yeah. You're like, oh, wait, we're awful people.
- [64:42]
B
It's great. The ritual. The ritual is so good.
- [64:46]
A
Oh, I don't know if I've seen the ritual.
- [64:48]
B
It's great. It's. It's really fucked up. It's like these guys go on something really traumatic. I'm not going to spoil it for you. Something traumatic happened to one of the dudes. Then a bunch of the friends go camping to sort of get, you know, to sort of like make the guy forget. And then some shit goes down.
- [65:07]
A
Oh, man, that's giving me anxiety already just hearing about it. Hell yeah.
- [65:11]
B
Gremlins 2, the new batch. Oh, okay. I just want to take a moment to talk about this movie because I literally saw it for the first time two days ago.
- [65:22]
A
What?
- [65:23]
B
Never seen it before.
- [65:24]
A
Thank you, Disco Lemonade.
- [65:26]
B
It's so good.
- [65:30]
A
It's so fucking good. It's so.
- [65:33]
B
It's perfect.
- [65:33]
A
One is a masterpiece.
- [65:35]
B
Oh, yeah. One is great.
- [65:36]
A
One is.
- [65:36]
B
One is great. And weird as fuck.
- [65:38]
A
Yes. And way more serious than you remember.
- [65:40]
B
Way darker than you think.
- [65:41]
A
We joke about it on Action Boys all the time, but there's just like a full on monologue about a dad dying in a chimney.
- [65:46]
B
Bbk.
- [65:46]
A
Yeah.
- [65:47]
B
Okay, okay, okay, wait. There was a quote that I remember to this day. She says some people open presents on Christmas, others open their wrists.
- [65:59]
A
Woof.
- [65:59]
B
And that's a line In Gremlin, a.
- [66:02]
A
Kids movie about Mogwai.
- [66:04]
B
Yes, exactly. And then Gremlins 2 shows up and they're like, hey, remember the Mogwais? Remember Gremlins? Let's make this stupid as Fuck.
- [66:13]
A
Yeah. Gremlins 2 is so fun. I.
- [66:15]
B
It's good.
- [66:15]
A
It's so good. You got the Electric Gremlin. You got Greta, the hot Greta, the hot Gremlin. Not to be so heteronormative. No, but you give me a little. Some green B cups.
- [66:27]
B
The thing about Greta the Gremlin is that she drinks the. I want to say the hermaphrodite drink, which is the man and the woman sign. So it's not like it's. I think she's both genders. I think. You know what I mean?
- [66:41]
A
She could use any bathroom.
- [66:42]
B
And she's. My only complaint is that towards the end, there's. There was going to be a Greta musical number, and it was cut a little too short. And I was like, let's see the 10 minute long musical of Greta. Like, that's what I want to see.
- [66:55]
A
I would just love to be in the room with all these legends coming up with ideas for kinds of Gremlins and also obsessed with. When I was a kid, I hated the logic of it, but I love that it happened. Trapping the Electric Gremlin on voicemail, it like, blew my mind. And I was like, you couldn't really. I'm like, literally. You know, when you're at that age where you're like, that. That's. That blows it. Sorry. That could never happen. Everything else up until that point, I totally believe all this other Gremlin shit. Lateral tap, saying Videodrome. Okay.
- [67:28]
B
Oh, Cronenberg.
- [67:29]
A
Cronenberg is a great guy to. Yeah. The fly. Oh, my gosh, the fly is so good.
- [67:35]
B
Oh, I've never seen the Fly. Ooh, dude, I gotta see the Fly.
- [67:39]
A
I will say. Cause it's. Weirdly, it's kind of a smaller movie than you think it's gonna be.
- [67:44]
B
Really?
- [67:45]
A
It's like very. It's very much just mostly Goldblum and Geena Davis. And they are, like, kind of sexy and cool together. And then as it goes on, like when I was a kid, it was just like, nasty. He pulled his fingernail off. Now, I watched it like a month ago, and I'm like, this movie is good, man. It's really good.
- [68:05]
B
Also, they, like, actually started dating after that movie.
- [68:08]
A
Did they? Yeah, it makes sense. They truly have wonderful chemistry on camera. It's so awesome.
- [68:13]
B
The movie that they Made after the Fly was one of my. It's one of my favorite movies of all time. Earth Girls are Easy with Julie. With who?
- [68:22]
A
Jim Carrey has a small part.
- [68:25]
B
Yeah, he's one of the aliens. And I went to Vidiots Shout out to Vidio Idiots, where they screen that movie. And Julie Brown was. Was doing a Q and A, and she was saying that it was so weird shooting that movie with the both of them because they were, like, fully dating at the time, and they would be making out with each other in between takes. And Julie Brown was like, that's so funny. Awkward.
- [68:48]
A
People are crazy. Like, I love when people are like, Ew. PDAs. It's like, shut up and kiss your partner wherever you want. But then there is. There is like, a limit. Yeah, exactly. There is, like, where you're like, hey.
- [68:58]
B
Can we run lines meanwhile, like, Jeff Goldblum is eating Geena Davis. It's like.
- [69:03]
A
Or like, when you're walking behind people and they have, like, their hand down the other's pants, I'm like, what is pet peeve?
- [69:09]
B
What is that?
- [69:09]
A
Yeah, you fingering their asshole. You're giving the butthole a finger pop.
- [69:13]
B
You're fingering their back pocket. That's what's going on.
- [69:16]
A
Yeah, I got some lint, daddy. It's so annoying, man. Guys. Yeah. Love the fl. Check out these horror movies that Oscar and I were talking about. Oscar? Oh, I haven't seen Late Night with the Devil. I do. Like, here's a hot take.
- [69:36]
B
I hated it.
- [69:36]
A
Ooh. Okay.
- [69:37]
B
I hated it. I thought it was. It was too leaning on. I wish it was exactly what the movie promised, which is the raw footage of that episode of the talk show that they were doing.
- [69:49]
A
Right, Right.
- [69:50]
B
But it got to. They did the cut tos to the backstage area, and it. It. It was like, okay, no, this is too much of a movie. Like, let's see just the raw footage.
- [70:00]
A
Yeah, Give me that. That makes it feel like I thought Paranormal Activity. As much as I don't like those found footage movies, there's one. I think it's two, where they put the camera on an oscillating fan. And that is, like, one of the best uses of the audience's POV that I've ever seen in a fucking movie. Movie. What? I'll have to listen to this episode. But what was the movie you recommended me, like, halfway through, and I'm like, no, I haven't seen it, and I gotta see it. Oh, sorry, listeners. You got this.
- [70:27]
B
Oh, I mean, you gotta watch Inside.
- [70:29]
A
Inside.
- [70:30]
B
You gotta watch inside.
- [70:30]
A
That was inside. It was inside. Was it inside? I think there was one more. It'll come to me. Talk to me was a lot of fun.
- [70:35]
B
Talk to me was great.
- [70:36]
A
It kind of twisted me up a little. I will say it was kind of intense but that the sequence up until they like that when the kid smashes his head is like unreal.
- [70:46]
B
It's so good.
- [70:47]
A
Oh, okay. Oscar Monte.
- [70:50]
B
Also shout out to like the stoner horror movies. Evil bong, ginger dead man. Thanks. Killing the stupid, dumbest, bottom of the barrel zombie version. Like the dumb shitty stuff. Get stoned. Watch those movies, you'll have a good time.
- [71:05]
A
Oh, we'll do leprechaun style. Dale. Dalen Tucker. Thank you, Westminster. So D. Tucker was the other one I had.
- [71:11]
B
Yeah, Dale and Tucker. Yeah.
- [71:12]
A
And I feel like I didn't watch it because one of those guys was the dude who was always book every audition I went out for back in the day. Ah, you know which one? Not Al. It's not Alan Tudyk. It's the other guy whose name is escaping me right now.
- [71:24]
B
Yeah, that guy books all the time.
- [71:26]
A
Yeah, that guy be working for a long ass time. Yo, thank you so much for coming on high end market Oscar and talking horror movies. I, I'm bummed that it's October 29th. I want to watch. You know what? Spooky movie season ends on Thanksgiving.
- [71:40]
B
Spooky movie for me, it never ends.
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Personally, I, I have to put a start on it for Tiffany. I, I say it's after. We're allowed to after Labor Day because I need summer. She will push. She will be like, it's August, let's put the pumpkins out. You know, like, no, no, no, no, no, no. We need a seasonal change. We need a seasonal change. Oscar. Where can the watchers and the listeners, where, where else can they find you? What are you doing?
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B
Listen, you can, you can follow me on social media at Ozzy Mo. Ozzy Mo. Yeah. And I have a Eurovision song contest podcast called Eurovangelists. You can follow me on that or, or follow the Instagram at Eurovangelists. But yeah, that's it, that's it.
- [72:24]
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Get after it. Find them out there. As for me, you know, I got my other podcast, Action Boy, and I'd like to apologize or say you're welcome to everyone who's been looking at my thighs, which I just looked down and noticed that I'm like literally at the point where underwear is creeping out. Come on, come on. Look at that twitch. Streamers. We know where our bread is buttered right about here. Oh, also, Chubby's promo code. Mighty. Chubby Shorts dot com. Promo code Mighty.
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B
You like what you see right here.
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A
Hey, edit this into a little ad. Rochelle, could you? Okay, this is where I get pepper sprayed by my colleagues. Let's get a good close up of these. These. These gams right here. Oh, my legs are sore, too. This feels good. All right, let me. We should go. Is this a haunted house where I can touch you? Bye, heads. I am mighty. That was a Hitgun podcast. In a part of the world where there are no rules. Holy. Holy. Guys, I'm so pumped. I definitely have not watched this since I rented it on VHS in 92. Strangers united by the threat of death. We got all the major players. Seagal. Vladimir Putin is a good man. Arnold, come give it to me. I need you to cream pie me now. Alone. People are loving this movie. It's got a lot of immensely irregular now, somewhere, somehow. Body blow. Body blow. Someone's going to pay. I would love for my wife to, like, see me rip a guy's throat out. But they didn't count on one thing. This movie's insane. That's how you know it's a good movie. You have to do almost all the work yourself to figure it out. Well, there's a fantasy component. There's some sword fighting. There's some lightning. There's a new game in town. You wake up after a few years, and then you don't even know who you are anymore. We're gonna be making Terminators. We're gonna make a really great deal with this. What? I don't hate him, but I've been in a room. Yes, I understand. This is now the 20th ending of the movie.
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B
I am dark.
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I'm your dad. Action Boys. Boys will be boys. Subscribe here for bonus content and more free stuff from behind the paywall. To get new episodes, become a patron at actionboys Biz.
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B
Do it.
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Do it. Come on. Do it now.