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App as a member of Noiser plus at noiser.com or in Apple Podcasts. Or you can get all of History Daily plus other fantastic history podcasts@intohristory.com it's the evening of December 18, 1972, in the skies over Laos, eight years into the United States States military involvement in the Vietnam War. Captain Bob Surtin, a B52 navigator, says a silent prayer as his aircraft makes an eastbound turn toward North Vietnam. Today, US President Richard Nixon ordered the start of an enormous bombing campaign. This morning. Captain Surtin and over 100 fellow aviators were briefed on tonight's mission. The plan is for three waves of B52s to attack targets across North Vietnam, including its capital Hanoi. When Captain Surtin noticed that all three groups would fly nearly identical routes in single file, he had his doubts. Flying the same route over and over might turn the B52s into easy targets for North Vietnam's anti aircraft arsenal. But it's not his job to ask questions tonight. He's just focused on doing everything in his power to ensure his mission succeeds. The radio comes alive with reports from B52s that have already entered the target zone. The North Vietnamese are trying to take them down with surface to air missiles. And this news confirms Captain Surtan's fears that they're in for a rocky flight. But they've been ordered to take no evasive action until they reach their target. So Captain Surtin and his fellow crewmen turn their focus from the radio and onto the path ahead. As they approach their target, the doors of the B52 open to prepare to drop the bomber's payload. But all at once, the radar screens and other instruments on the lower deck go black. Then comes the frantic voice of the B52's CO pilot. They've been hit. As Captain Surtin looks around, he sees flames overtaking the plane. He needs to act fast or the B52's payload of 27750 pound bombs will explode and take him and the rest of the crew with them. Quickly, he and his fellow crew members release the bombs. But not knowing where they will land, they make sure to safety them first. Then knowing it's only a matter of time before the flames reach the B52's giant fuel tank, the crewmen prepare to jump out. Captain Certain hears the jolting sound of his fellow crew members ejecting. He steadies himself and pulls his own EJECTION handle days, Captain Certain feels himself falling through the cold winter air until his parachute opens and his body jerks upward before drifting the rest of the way down. During his first term as President of the United States, Richard Nixon brought hundreds of thousands of American soldiers home, but he also expanded US Operations into Laos and Cambodia. In his reelection campaign, Nixon committed to bringing about an honorable end to the war. Last month, he was reelected in a landslide. But finding a way out of Vietnam has proved difficult. After peace talks with North Vietnam stalled earlier this month, Nixon ordered the most intensive bombing campaign of the entire war. Officially called Operation Linebacker 2, it will come to be known as the Christmas bombing. Though Captain Certain's B52 is unable to carry out its attack, the over 100 other bombers have more luck. Over the course of 11 days, the onslaught will continue. The overpowering assault will eventually be remembered as the coda to the United States quagmire in Vietnam because the US And North Vietnam will agree to peace soon after, but not before. The campaign takes the lives of almost 28American servicemen and more than 1600 Vietnamese after the bombs begin dropping on December 18, 1972.
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$45 upfront payment equivalent to $15 per month. New customers on first three month plan only taxes and fees. Extra Speed slower above 40 gigabytes. C Details from Noiser and Airship. I'm Lindsey Graham and this is History. Daily history is made every day on this podcast, every day, we tell the true stories of the people and events that shaped our world. Today is December 18, 1972, the Christmas bombing of North Vietnam. It's the evening of December 18, 1972 in North Vietnam, the same night that Captain Bob Certain's B52 will be struck out of the sky. Dinh Thay Van, Commander of the 77th Battalion of the North Vietnamese army, lets out a deep sigh. The American B52s have just finished a heavy bombardment. But over the radio, Van heard that the North Vietnamese were able to shoot down one of the American's B52s and captured three of its crew members. This news fills Van with pride. He and the other members of North Vietnam's air defense have taken a stand against one of the most powerful weapons of the world's most powerful militaries. But Van is hardly feeling celebratory. Radar shows that another wave of B52s are on their way. And when they arrive, they will unleash another round of hell. Van can hardly recall what life was like before the war. North Vietnam has been fighting the Americans and their allies in South Vietnam for almost as long as he can remember. Over the course of the conflict, hundreds of thousands of Vietnamese have been killed. The US Military unleashed its most devastating weapons against North Vietnam. And the North Vietnamese have relied mainly on guerrilla tactics to fight back. But they also have some support from the Soviet Union, including surface to air missiles. Van's battalion uses these Soviet missiles as a vital weapon against the United States superior air power, including their B52 bombers. As a commander in the air defense, it is Van's job to track the B52s and try to shoot them down. But there's a big obstacle. The B52s are armed with technology that jams North Vietnam's tracking systems. So as the Americans carry out their second attack, Van and his crew scrutinize their radar screens. All they see is a scramble of static until there's a moment when the static clears up. In a matter of seconds, the screen goes back to its previous state of disorder. But Van and his crewmates realize there must be a temporary opening in the jamming, making the B52s vulnerable by the time the next wave of enemy aircraft arrives. Van and his crew are prepared. They wait patiently for the mere seconds when the jamming dies down, then they fire two missiles which find their target. Over the radio, Van receives a report that a B52 has crashed in the suburbs of Hanoi. The next day, the Vietnamese survey the destruction left behind by the US Bombing strike. Despite the intensity of the campaign, Van and the air defense crew take some comfort in knowing they were able to shoot down several B52s. The following night, though the air defense crews are unable to repeat their success, the mood of the North Vietnamese army turns bleak. Van and the other commanders are reprimanded for their failures. And as darkness falls on December 20, the North Vietnamese brace for a third night of American bombing. This time, they resolve to take advantage of the American's predictable routine. When the first wave of B52s arrive, the North Vietnamese Air Command battalions are ready. They wait for the moment when their radars are effective and then strike. One B52 is brought down, and then another. The second B52 is hit just as it is about to deploy its bombs. The explosion is so bright it can be seen from 80 miles away. A few hours later, the Vietnamese wait for the arrival of a second wave of bombers. The Americans have been flying identical routes every night, making them easy to predict. But tonight, the second round of B52s never arrives. After the chaos unleashed by the North Vietnamese, the US has called off the night's second raid on Hanoi. But in a twist, the Americans return for their usual third strike of the night. When they do, the North Vietnamese use what they've learned to target more B52s. And by the time the night is over, six aircraft have been shot down. In response to these terrible losses, the United States Strategic Air Command is forced to rethink their strategy. Air Command insists that the B52s continue to fly predictable identical routes. But they try a slight change in tactic by altering the way the bombers turn at the end of their routes. But after two more B52s are struck down, US military leaders call off the raids on Hanoi. For the next several nights, they will have to devise a new strategy. Their goal is to demonstrate overwhelming military strength. They want to pound the North Vietnamese into submission, but it has to be done without costing American lives. So back in the United States, the losses incurred in this latest offensive in a prolonged war will have consequences. Americans all across political lines have grown tired of the war. Anti war protesters, families of American prisoners of war, and many others who have been waiting for President Nixon to sign a peace deal will all be dismayed by this new escalation. Some will take their anger into the streets and demand an immediate ceasefire.
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Lindsey Graham
With Credit Karma, finding the right credit card for you is easy. Our app analyzes user profiles to suggest personalized recommendations. Visit CreditKarma.com today to explore cards tailored to your needs. Credit Karma simplifying your financial choices It's December 21, 1972, in New York City's Times Square, three days after President Richard Nixon's Christmas bombing campaign began. A crowd of protesters marches toward 43rd street and Broadway. Above the blare of traffic and street vendors, they shout at the top of their lungs while holding signs and banners with phrases like Ceasefire. Nixon's a liar. Over the course of the Vietnam War, its unpopularity has only grown. Driven by the military draft and the high death toll, the war has deeply divided Americans. But now even initial supporters have started growing tired of what they hoped would be a much shorter conflict. Four years ago, when Nixon was inaugurated for his first term, he expected to be able to end the US Involvement in Vietnam within a year. He tried to use bombings in Vietnam, Laos and Cambodia to pressure North Vietnam into capitulation, but the war dragged on. In 1972, a potential end to the conflict finally emerged, and earlier this month, talks with North Vietnam brought new possibilities of peace. But America's commitment to South Vietnam was a sticking point. South Vietnam's president rejected peace agreements that recognized North Vietnam's legitimacy, and matters reached an impasse with negotiators walking away. Just days later, President Nixon began one of the most destructive bombing campaigns of the war. And as these bombs drop on North Vietnam, anti war protesters have grown enraged. Tonight, they're in the streets to make their voices heard yet again. Under the bright lights of Times Square, tourists and last minute holiday shoppers watch as the thousand strong crowd of demonstrators steps into one of the city's busiest intersections. As the protesters block traffic, the usual sound of horns grows louder and louder, but the demonstrators stand firm, yelling and displaying their signs for all drivers and passersby to see. Soon, mounted policemen arrive and order the crowd to disperse, but the protesters refuse. They continue their chanting, and if anything, they only shout louder in response. The officers ride their Horses into the crowd, swinging clubs. The marchers cry out and scatter to avoid getting hurt. But there's still no stopping the demonstration. Moments after being forced from the street, the protesters regroup and move back to blocking the flow of traffic. For the next two hours, activists and police battle for control of the streets until finally the police find a way to corral the crowd into a traffic island a block away. By the time the night's over, 15 demonstrators have been arrested. But the crowd in Times Square is not alone in opposing the Christmas bombing. That same day, a peaceful sit in takes place at the United nations building along with other rallies in cities across the country. These demonstrations are smaller than just a year ago when the anti war movement was at its peak. But organizers commit to pressuring Nixon to keep his promise to end the war. They announced plans to picket outside his home on Christmas and plan a large scale protest for Nixon's inauguration day in January. And in addition to these anti war protests, criticism comes from powerful institutions too. The New York Times runs an editorial denouncing the Christmas bombing campaign as barbaric. One Republican senator, an ally of the President, wonders if Nixon has lost his senses. There is backlash to the offensive overseas as well. The Prime Minister of Sweden even compares the assault to infamous war crimes from history. But President Nixon is undeterred. He keeps the US military focused on outmaneuvering the North Vietnamese anti aircraft attacks which have now brought down 11 B52s since the bombing campaign began. For several nights, bombers do not raid Hanoi while Air Command re strategizes. But the day after Christmas, the US resumes its attacks. This time the B52s don't fly in small groups along identical routes. Instead, the US swarms their targets with over 110 bombers from all directions. Within 15 minutes, the aircraft drop over 8,000 bombs, destroying thousands of homes and killing hundreds. The North Vietnamese still manage to shoot 1B 52 down. But they realize they are outmatched by the American's new strategy. The next day, the North Vietnamese reach out to American negotiators and ask to resume peace talk. The US agrees. But Nixon does not stop the bombing. B52s continue to strike Hanoi for three more nights. On December 27, the North Vietnamese manage to shoot down two more B52s. But in the following two nights of bombing, the US completes its raids without losing a single aircraft. Then on December 29, Operation Linebacker 2 will come to an end 11 days after it began. In early January, peace talks will resume in Paris. Both sides will Be eager to come to an agreement. North Vietnam will want to keep its troops in South Vietnam without further US Involvement. The US Will want to bring its prisoners of war home and end the war with a semblance of honor. It will take weeks of negotiation, but eventually a deal will be brokered and President Nixon will announce an end to the American involvement in Vietnam. At last.
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Lindsey Graham
It'S the evening of January 23, 1973 at the White House in Washington, D.C. three days after President Richard Nixon was inaugurated for his second term. Inside the Oval Office, Nixon looks into the camera facing him and waits for the light to signal that he's being broadcast. After two weeks of talks, the United States, North Vietnam and South Vietnam have come to an agreement. Finally, after years of conflict and diplomacy, Nixon can announce an end to America's war in Vietnam. Nixon sees the signal that he's live. He looks directly into the camera and attempts to project dignity and strength.
Richard Nixon
Good evening. I have asked for this radio and television time tonight for the purpose of announcing that we today have concluded an agreement to end the war and bring peace with honor in Vietnam and in Southeast Asia.
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Nixon goes on to explain the terms of the agreement. A ceasefire will go into effect on January 27th. Then within 60 days, all American prisoners of war will be returned home and the US will withdraw all of its troops. Nixon expresses a commitment to the sovereignty of South Vietnam as well as hopes for peace with North Vietnam. He assures the American people that the agreement is one that honors the sacrifice of the two and a half million Americans who have served in Vietnam. But Nixon is unable to fully deliver on the promises of his address. After the United States withdraws from Vietnam, fighting between north and south continues. While Nixon vowed to continue supporting the South Vietnamese, an anti war Congress and the Watergate scandal block him from following through on this commitment. In spring of 1975, North Vietnam launches a major offensive that ends the conflict. This leaves opinions around the impact of Nixon Nixon's Christmas bombing divided. Some historians will credit the campaign with forcing the Vietnamese back to the bargaining table, but others will note that President Nixon signed a deal that was practically identical to the one negotiators had walked away from earlier. Regardless, by the time the war is over, it will have lasted two decades and taken the lives of 55,000Americans, half of them only 17 or 18 years old. It will also have claimed that millions of lives in Vietnam, Cambodia and Laos. And whether the bombings brought about peace or were just a final display of military might in the face of defeat, Nixon's Christmas bombing campaign will always be remembered as the last and largest bombing of America's war in Vietnam, inflicting enormous devastation after Its start on December 18, 1972. Next on History Daily, December 19, 1843. Readers are first introduced to Ebenezer Scrooge with the publication of Charles Dickens A Christmas Carol from Noiser and Ayrship. This is History Daily hosted, edited and executive produced by me, Lindsey Graham Audio editing by Mohammad Shazi Sound design by Molly Bach Music by Lindsey Graham. This episode is written and researched by Reuben Abrams Brosby. Executive producers are Alexandra Curry Buckner for Airship and Pascal Hughes for Noiser.
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History Daily Podcast Summary: The “Christmas Bombing” of North Vietnam
Introduction
In this compelling episode of History Daily, host Lindsay Graham delves into one of the most intense and controversial military campaigns of the Vietnam War—the Christmas Bombing of North Vietnam, officially known as Operation Linebacker II. Released on December 18, 2024, the episode meticulously chronicles the events leading up to the bombing, the missions themselves, the perspectives from both sides of the conflict, and the profound domestic and international repercussions that followed.
Prelude to the Event
Setting the Stage for Escalation
The episode opens on the evening of December 18, 1972, against the backdrop of prolonged U.S. military involvement in Vietnam. President Richard Nixon, seeking reelection and an honorable exit from the war, faces stalled peace talks with North Vietnam. In an effort to pressure Hanoi into negotiations, Nixon authorizes an extensive bombing campaign over North Vietnam, Laos, and Cambodia.
Key Insight:
"During his first term as President of the United States, Richard Nixon brought hundreds of thousands of American soldiers home, but he also expanded US operations into Laos and Cambodia." (00:45)
The Mission of Captain Bob Certain
Inside the B52 Bombers
Captain Bob Certain, a B52 navigator, becomes the focal point of the narrative as his crew prepares for the daunting mission ahead. Briefed on the plan for three waves of B52s to target key locations, including Hanoi, Captain Certain expresses concerns about the vulnerability of flying identical routes, potentially making the bombers easy targets for North Vietnam's anti-aircraft defenses.
Notable Quote:
"They’ve been ordered to take no evasive action until they reach their target." (01:30)
As the mission unfolds, Captain Certain’s B52 is struck by enemy fire. Facing imminent destruction from the bomber's payload, he and his crew make the harrowing decision to release the bombs and eject from the doomed aircraft, narrowly escaping death.
North Vietnam’s Defense: Dinh Thay Van’s Account
The North Vietnamese Resistance
Parallel to the American perspective, the episode introduces Dinh Thay Van, commander of the 77th Battalion of North Vietnam’s air defense. Van and his team utilize Soviet-supplied surface-to-air missiles to combat the formidable U.S. B52 fleet. Despite technological challenges, including jamming tactics employed by the Americans, Van successfully downes several bombers, bolstering North Vietnamese morale.
Notable Quote:
"The American B52s have just finished a heavy bombardment... We have taken a stand against one of the most powerful weapons of the world's most powerful militaries." (06:15)
Despite intermittent successes, Van faces increasing pressure as subsequent waves of B52s adapt their strategies, leading to significant losses for North Vietnam’s defense forces.
Escalation and American Strategy Adjustments
Adapting to North Vietnamese Tactics
In response to the North Vietnamese effectively shooting down B52s, the U.S. Strategic Air Command modifies its approach, initially attempting minor route alterations. However, these adjustments prove insufficient, resulting in continued losses. The Americans then escalate their strategy, deploying over 110 bombers simultaneously from multiple directions, a tactic that temporarily overwhelms the North Vietnamese defenses and leads to heavy destruction in Hanoi.
Key Insight:
"Within 15 minutes, the aircraft drop over 8,000 bombs, destroying thousands of homes and killing hundreds." (15:30)
This intensified bombardment underscores the desperation and determination on both sides to achieve military and political objectives.
Domestic Response: Anti-War Protests
The American Public's Reaction
Back in the United States, the Christmas Bombing ignites widespread outrage and mobilizes anti-war sentiments. The episode vividly describes protests in New York City’s Times Square, where thousands march with banners demanding an immediate ceasefire. These demonstrations, although smaller than the peak of the anti-war movement a year prior, signify a growing fatigue and frustration among Americans weary of the protracted conflict.
Notable Quote:
"The Americans have grown tired of the war... Some will take their anger into the streets and demand an immediate ceasefire." (09:00)
The government’s decision to escalate the bombing campaign further alienates the public, leading to increased arrests and clashes with law enforcement as activists persist in their demands for peace.
International Reactions
Global Perspective and Criticism
The episode also highlights international responses to the Christmas Bombing. The New York Times publishes an editorial condemning the campaign as barbaric, while international leaders, including the Prime Minister of Sweden, draw parallels between the bombings and historical war crimes. This global condemnation adds pressure on the United States, complicating Nixon’s efforts to secure an honorable exit from the war.
Notable Quote:
"The Prime Minister of Sweden even compares the assault to infamous war crimes from history." (10:15)
Resolution and Aftermath
Towards Peace Negotiations
Following eleven days of relentless bombing, with significant loss of life on both sides, North Vietnam initiates renewed peace talks. However, the cessation of hostilities does not immediately translate to peace, as fighting continues until a comprehensive agreement is finally brokered in early January 1973. Nixon publicly announces the end of American involvement in Vietnam, aiming to project strength and honor despite underlying political turmoil back home.
Key Insight:
"Nixon is unable to fully deliver on the promises of his address... fighting between north and south continues." (18:00)
Historical Impact and Legacy
Assessing the Significance
The episode concludes by evaluating the long-term effects of the Christmas Bombing. Historians remain divided on its efficacy—some argue that the intense bombing pressured North Vietnam into negotiations, while others contend that it was merely a final exertion of military might preceding inevitable defeat. The war’s toll is immense, with over 55,000 American lives lost and millions of Vietnamese casualties, marking the conflict as one of the most devastating in modern history.
Notable Quote:
"Nixon's Christmas bombing campaign will always be remembered as the last and largest bombing of America's war in Vietnam, inflicting enormous devastation after its start on December 18, 1972." (19:30)
Conclusion
Lindsay Graham's detailed exploration of the Christmas Bombing provides listeners with a nuanced understanding of this pivotal moment in the Vietnam War. By presenting perspectives from both American and North Vietnamese sides, alongside the domestic unrest and international criticisms, the episode offers a comprehensive narrative of how a single military campaign can influence the course of history and shape collective memory.
End Credits: The episode is meticulously produced by Airship and Noiser, with audio editing by Mohammad Shazi, sound design by Molly Bach, music by Lindsay Graham, and written by Reuben Abrams Brosby. Executive producers include Alexandra Curry Buckner for Airship and Pascal Hughes for Noiser.
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