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Today we want to give you a little taste of a new series we're launching the second season of History's Greatest Scandals. In it, I'll be uncovering the secrets of the Georgian era with Professor Hannah Gregg. We'll be exposing illicit liaisons, meeting cross dressing celebrity spies and and getting involved in some high stakes gambling as we search out some of the most salacious stories of the day and explore what they can reveal about the Georgian age. So here's a taster of the first episode where we're following on the trail of some very canny forgers. And if you enjoy this, you can find the whole Episode and the rest of the series by searching for history's greatest scandals. Wherever you listen to podcasts, this is a history extra production.
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Ellie, do you like a scammer story?
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Well, okay, it's not fashionable, but I have to admit I do. And I feel like there's so many of them around these days. Podcasts, documentaries, usually these days they're about, you know, fake billionaires or fake tech entrepreneurs though, aren't they?
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They are. But our fascination with scammers has quite a long history and we can find some interesting cases in the Georgian period. And they were just as intrigued by real life scams as we are as we're gonna discuss today. So today's case is a sensational courtroom drama featuring a whole gang of untrustworthy characters. So it includes a seemingly genteel lady, but she has a secret past, possibly an apothecary who is possibly an upstanding member of the community. But Izzy actually very deceptive and he has a fast living gambling, dangerous twin brother.
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Twins and dark histories. Let's get. Welcome to History's Greatest Scandals. In this second series, we're uncovering the secrets of the Georgian era. I'm Ellie Cawthorn and joining me to explore the highs and lows of British society in the 18th and early 19th centuries is Professor Hannah Gregg, a historian, author and historical consultant on dramas including Poldark, the Favorite and Bridgeton. We'll be following on the trail of forgers, uncovering illicit liaisons, meeting cross dressing celebrity spies and getting involved in some high stakes gambling as we search out some of the biggest scandals of the day and explore what they can reveal about the Georgian age.
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So we're In London, it's 1775, and the banker Henry Drummond is at work at his family's bank. A man comes, a local apothecary called Robert Perrault who's asking to borrow a very significant amount of money. It's about £5,000, a lot of money.
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Today, but presumably even more then.
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It's a huge amount of money then. I mean, it's a significant, it's sort of by an estate amount of money, basically. So, you know, Drummond isn't just going to hand this over. So to secure the loan, Robert Perot says he has a bond for even more money, 7,500 pounds, which has been signed and secured effectively by a man who's pretty well known in the city of London called William Adair.
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Before we go any further, explain to me what does he mean by a bond? What is that?
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So a bond is A piece of paper that basically functions within the London and British economy as a form of trust. So it's a way of guaranteeing a loan. In a similar way today we might possibly have a guarantor for a big loan, for a tenancy agreement. So if there's a suspicion that your credit rating means that you might not meet a payment, you have someone else who's trustworthy, who's financially secure, who can guarantee that loan for you, if you fail to make the payment, they will step up. And that's how Bond operates in 18th century London as well. So Robert Perrow is saying that William Adair will meet the debt if he fails.
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Okay, so we've got Robert, he wants to borrow five grand and he's saying this man, this so called William Adair, he will cover the debt to Drummond's bank if he can't pay.
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Exactly. And in fact the document that Drummond is given is apparently signed by William Adair and it says on the paper, and I, you know, we quote from what we know about it, that the payments will be well and faithfully made and Adair would bind myself, my heirs, executors and administrators firmly by these presents sealed with my seal. So he's basically saying that even if I die, my estate will be good on this debt and Drummond will certainly be paid.
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But I thought there was a but coming.
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Of course it's going to get more complicated than that, isn't it? When Perrault shares the name of the wealthy guarantor William Adair with Drummond, alarm bells begin to ring for Drummond himself. So much so that he asks his brother to come and take a look at the bond that Perrault is offering.
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Why is it that those alarm bells are ringing? Is William Adair a fake name? Is he a real person?
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Yes, he is absolutely a real person. And he is pretty well known in the city of London because he's wealthy, he handles a lot of military contacts, he sits at the heart of the kind of City of London economy and he is also known to Drummond's bank. But as Drummond said, when he later gives evidence about this interaction with Perrault, he says, as soon as we saw it, we both expressed a disbelief of its being Mr. Adairs bond and asked Robert Perrault if it was Mr. William Adairs, the late agent that lived in Pall Mall. He said yes, it was and there could be no doubt about it. So the issue that Perrault is really facing is that the two brothers at Drummond's bank had in fact had many personal dealings themselves with Mr. Adair, and looking at this bond, they were really not sure that was his handwriting.
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Okay, so it's all starting to look a bit fishy. Yes indeed, that was an extract from the first episode of season two of History's Greatest Scandals. If you want to hear the full episode and the rest of the series, then just search for History's Greatest Scandals Wherever you get your podcasts.
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Date: August 22, 2025
Host: Ellie Cawthorn
Guest: Professor Hannah Gregg
Series: History’s Greatest Scandals, Season 2 Preview
Main Theme: Unveiling Georgian-era high-stakes forgery and scandal
This episode is a sneak peek into the new season of History's Greatest Scandals. Host Ellie Cawthorn, alongside historian and author Professor Hannah Gregg, introduces listeners to the thrilling world of 18th-century fraudsters. The focus is on a notorious forgery case in Georgian London, examining how scams of the past echo modern obsessions with con artists and financial deception. The episode teases a deeper exploration of scandal, illicit liaisons, cross-dressing celebrity spies, and the societal undercurrents of the Georgian era.
“I feel like there’s so many of them around these days... usually these days they’re about fake billionaires or fake tech entrepreneurs, though, aren’t they?”
— Ellie Cawthorn (02:53)
“Our fascination with scammers has quite a long history and we can find some interesting cases in the Georgian period.”
— Hannah Gregg (03:08)
“A bond is a piece of paper that basically functions within the London and British economy as a form of trust.” (05:17)
“As soon as we saw it, we both expressed a disbelief of its being Mr. Adair’s bond...”
— Hannah Gregg, quoting Drummond (06:57)
On the drama of Georgian London scams:
“Today's case is a sensational courtroom drama featuring a whole gang of untrustworthy characters... a seemingly genteel lady... possibly an upstanding apothecary... and a fast living, gambling, dangerous twin brother.”
— Hannah Gregg (03:08)
Clarifying the risk and procedure:
“He [Perrault] is saying that William Adair will meet the debt if he fails.”
— Hannah Gregg (05:54)
Suspicion and expertise:
“The two brothers at Drummond’s bank had in fact had many personal dealings themselves with Mr. Adair, and looking at this bond, they were really not sure that was his handwriting.”
— Hannah Gregg (07:21)
On the enduring appeal of conspiracy and scandal in history:
“We’ll be exposing illicit liaisons, meeting cross-dressing celebrity spies and and getting involved in some high stakes gambling as we search out some of the most salacious stories of the day.”
— Ellie Cawthorn (02:10)
This preview whets the appetite for listeners interested in scandal, crime, and society, demonstrating that the roots of our fascination with deception and fraud run deep. The hosts bring a lively, conversational tone, combining sharp historical insight with modern sensibility, promising an engaging and informative season centered on the wild, perilous, and revelatory stories of Georgian Britain.
To listen to the full episode and the series, search “History’s Greatest Scandals” wherever you get your podcasts.