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History this Week, October 19, 1814. I'm Sally Helm. A Wednesday evening show at the Holiday Street Theater in Baltimore. It's the fifth performance out of 24 in the season, but this is the show that history will remember. The audience files into a new brick theater building. The room is likely candlelit, and outside the walls of the Holiday Street Theater, The War of 1812 is raging. One set piece for the show is an epic painting depicting a battle that happened a month earlier in this very city. Baltimore defended itself successfully against a large and powerful British fleet. Theater performances at this time are often like variety acts with many different parts that could overall run five or six hours. First up this evening is a historical play in five acts, Count Benjowski or the Conspiracy of Kamchatka. After that, the audience hears a much admired new song. Then there's a military hornpipe danced by Miss Abercrombie. And finally a comic song, the Patriotic Diggers, performed by a Mr. Blissett. One of these acts will stand the test of time. It will continue to be performed up through the present day. It is not the historical play in five acts about the Conspiracy of Kamchatka. It is instead the that much admired new song. Its title, the Star Spangled Banner. Audiences at the time would have known exactly what the lyrics of this song were about. They describe that big recent battle. The people of Baltimore just lived through it.
Tim Grove
But today I think that most people who sing it don't know what they're singing about, really. But I think it's a story worth telling because it was a moment of insecurity in American history that could have changed world history for sure. But it has a lot of twists and turns.
Sally Helm
The story includes a wartime captive, a strange, awkward lunch, and an amateur poet marooned on a ship. It centers on one complicated man, Francis Scott Keith, a man who owned slaves and who, as a lawyer, defended both slave catchers and enslaved people themselves. The same man who famously gave us those words about the land of the free and the home of the brave today. Who was Francis Scott Key, the man whose song is now sung over and over in stadiums and on podiums and in high school gyms all over the country. And when Americans sing about the rocket's red glare, the bombs bursting in air, what exactly is the story behind those words? For this episode, we interviewed two experts, and one of the first questions we asked each of them was, what is your favorite version of the Star Spangled Banner?
Tim Grove
Whitney Houston's at the Super Bowl. Just the ease that she sings it, it's effortless for her.
Sally Helm
Tim Grove is right. It's definitely worth listening to, if you haven't. Grove is a historian and the author of many books for young adults, including one about the Star Spangled Banner, both the song and the flag. He's seen the very banner that inspired Francis Scott Key. It's now at the Smithsonian, where Grove worked as a consultant. He told us it's enormous.
Tim Grove
I mean, it's about a quarter the size of a basketball court, so it's huge.
Sally Helm
More on that later. We also spoke to historian and journalist Mark Leapson, who doesn't have a favorite version of the song.
Mark Leapson
Nah. I think just a standard works for me.
Sally Helm
Leapson's expertise isn't necessarily the anthem, but rather the man who wrote it. Francis Scott Key. Leapson wrote a biography of Key that was published in 2014.
Mark Leapson
He's just known for this one thing, right? And it's sort of an amazing thing, writing what would become our national anthem. But it turns out there's a lot more to the guy.
Sally Helm
Francis Scott Key was born in 1779 and grew up in Maryland on his.
Mark Leapson
Family plantation called Terra rubra, meaning red earth. He had a very privileged existence growing up. His family was very well off. They had enslaved people, taking care of all their needs.
Sally Helm
And Key would continue the practice of slavery after he grew up and became a lawyer.
Mark Leapson
He enslaved human beings his entire life. You can read letters that he wrote that are chilling to read today letters.
Sally Helm
That are a brutal reminder of the inhumanity of slavery and the casual way slave owners talked about it.
Mark Leapson
You know, writing to his mother, saying, hey, here's, I have something for you. I have this woman. She's strong, and she comes with a little girl. And I can chip them up by wagon anytime you want.
Sally Helm
Key ends up marrying a woman named Mary Taylor Lloyd, the daughter of Colonel Edward Lloyd iv.
Mark Leapson
He might have been the richest man in the colony of Maryland. Huge plantation, hundreds of enslaved people.
Sally Helm
In fact, Frederick Douglass, perhaps the most famous abolitionist who ever lived, was born enslaved on Colonel Lloyd's plantation.
Mark Leapson
They never knew who his father was. And the rumors were that it could have been an overseer, it could have been Colonel Lloyd's son, it could have been Colonel Lloyd. It's not beyond the realm of possibility that Frederick Douglass could have been Francis Scott Key's brother in law.
Sally Helm
To be clear, there's no proof of this. Douglas himself searched for the truth about his father and never got it. Beyond these rumors that he was a powerful white man on the plantation, Francis Scott Key did certainly have one famous brother in law, Roger Taney, the Chief justice of the Supreme Court, who authored the infamous Dred Scott decision, in which the court held that rights for citizens enshrined in the Constitution did not apply to African Americans. As prominent as slavery was in his life, Key's relationship with race is actually a little more complicated. He supported the institution of slavery, but he was opposed to slave trafficking, which today seems like a distinction without a difference. But it meant that as a lawyer in Georgetown, just outside Washington, D.C. key would sometimes represent the interests of enslaved people and freed slaves free of charge.
Mark Leapson
He helped enslaved people as well as free people, and he did it for free. On the other hand, you can go through the records, and he defended slave catchers. Slave owners would hire these people called slave catchers to go and grab people off the street and take them back to Virginia or North Carolina or the Deep south somewhere.
Sally Helm
If this sounds contradictory, that's because it is. Leapson says. You saw these same contradictions in the lives of many figures in the early Republic.
Mark Leapson
Read what Jefferson said about slavery. He's the one who used the words an abomination. And yet, you know, he owned hundreds of slaves throughout his whole life. It was by no means unique that people, through enslaved individuals spoke out against how evil the institution of slavery was, but still didn't find it in their hearts to manumit their slaves.
Sally Helm
Manumit meaning to set free this kind of hypocrisy was part of the time in which these people lived. And this was the America, this young, contradictory country that went to war with the British again for a second time in 1812. The War of 1812 is sometimes called the Forgotten war, meaning most people completely forget what it was about. But the stakes were, were high.
Tim Grove
Tim Grove told us, sometimes it's called the second War for Independence, because had the British won the War of 1812, who knows, we might have gone back to being ruled by Britain. I mean, there was that possibility.
Sally Helm
America had won its war for independence just 29 years earlier. The country was very much still finding its footing. Meanwhile, the British and the French were engaged in a war for dominance in Europe. And the young United States wanted to keep trading with both. But the powerful British Navy did not want that. So they would hang around U.S. ports and board U.S. trade ships. Sometimes they'd take sailors from those ships and say to them, you're in the British navy now. The British also allied with Native Americans to stop the US from expanding its borders westward. And eventually President James Madison decided all this action justified a war. There's also a group of war hawks in Congress who agree. So in 1812, the US Congress issues its first declaration of war. Madison signs it, and The War of 1812 begins.
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Tim Grove
Certainly not everyone was for the war. It was very split population.
Mark Leapson
It was basically a north south split in General. With Southerners favoring war and Northerners being against it.
Sally Helm
Francis Scott Key lived on the dividing line between north and south, and he was originally against the war. At first, the fighting didn't really impact his life. But eventually Mark Leipson said British forces made the war impossible to ignore.
Mark Leapson
They started coming up the Chesapeake Bay and marauding along the coasts of Maryland and Virginia. And it was getting a little bit too close for comfort for Key. So he changed his mind.
Sally Helm
He decides to join a militia. But before he's even officially in uniform, the British start marching towards Washington, D.C. and key goes out to the battlefield in Bladensburg, Maryland.
Mark Leapson
He kind of thought maybe he knew the terrain and could help out, but he didn't do much. He showed up and then got out of there.
Sally Helm
In the end, Bladensburg was a terrible defeat for the American military.
Tim Grove
The British dubbed it the Bladensburg Races, because they kind of turned and ran.
Mark Leapson
And then what happened? They burned Washington, D.C. they burned the White House, they burned the Congressional Library, and they burned other federal buildings.
Tim Grove
There are burn marks in the basement of the White House still today from when it was burned in 1814.
Mark Leapson
And really, we don't know what would have happened after that. But there was a giant rainstorm, and that put an end to that, and the British troops left Washington, D.C.
Sally Helm
Side note here, some of the British troops in D.C. that day actually included people who had, until recently, been enslaved in the United States. Tim Grove told us a few months earlier, the main British general in charge, Vice Admiral Sir Alexander Cochrane, had issued.
Tim Grove
A proclamation directed to the enslaved population, promising them freedom and the choice to serve in the military or just to resettle somewhere else.
Sally Helm
And so many enslaved people found their way to the British ships in the Chesapeake Bay. Sometimes entire families went out together by canoe. More than 4,000 people ended up free.
Tim Grove
I think the motivation behind it was not humanitarian. It was more a military strategy. But they did resettle all of the refugees.
Sally Helm
Okay, back to Kee, who returns to Georgetown, where he can see smoke from the buildings burning in his nation's capital. Soon after this defeat and his brief appearance on the battlefield, Key gets pulled into the war again, this time because of a man named Dr. William Beans. Dr. Beans was a family friend of the Keyes. He's in his 60s, a veteran of the Revolution, living in Upper Marlborough, Maryland, where British soldiers are sort of running around causing mayhem.
Tim Grove
And so he decides to organize a group of men to go after these soldiers. They captured several British soldiers and throw some of them in the local jail. One of the British soldiers, escapes and the next night returns to Dr. Bean's home and takes him out of his bed at midnight, forced to ride on a horse 35 miles to Benedict, Maryland, and took him on board one of the British ships.
Sally Helm
Dr. Beans is now a British prisoner.
Tim Grove
His friends are outraged and they realize that they have to act quickly or he'll be taken somewhere and who knows what will happen to him. So I contact the Governor of Maryland and try to get the release, but nothing works.
Sally Helm
The Beans family is panicked, and Mark Leapson told us they decide to reach out to Frank Key. Frank, that's how he was known to his friends and family.
Mark Leapson
Now, Frank was a big lawyer in dc. He was famous for his oratory and for how convincing he was before juries. So they wanted this guy to argue their case with the Brits, basically get.
Sally Helm
On board a British ship, negotiate and bring Dr. Beans home. And Key says, I'll do it.
Mark Leapson
During the War of 1812, prisoner releases and prisoner exchanges were common. And he got on his horse and he rode up from Georgetown to Baltimore, where he met Skinner.
Sally Helm
John Skinner was an agent for the government, someone who specialized in prisoner exchanges. He brought a bit of leverage with him. Letters from British soldiers currently imprisoned in America. From writing about how well they had been treated, they hoped this would help convince the British to release Dr. Beans. Key and Skinner don't know exactly where the British ships are, but they get on a sloop and head out into the Chesapeake Bay. And eventually they find the fleet which is at that very moment preparing for some kind of attack. There's a whole armada out there. But nevertheless, around 2pm, Kee and Skinner are welcomed on board the HMS Tonnant.
Mark Leapson
They sat down and had lunch or dinner and drank some wine with the Brits.
Tim Grove
It must have been awkward. I would have loved to have been at that table. I like to imagine Francis Scott Key, who certainly, I'm sure, never imagined himself having a meal on the flagship of the British Navy which has just been attacking his country. It must have been very surreal.
Sally Helm
Dr. Beans, meanwhile, is still being held prisoner, and Skinner and Key start arguing for his release. It's going well until one British officer makes some anti American comment. Tim Grove told us.
Tim Grove
Skinner apparently was not pleased. He held his tongue at first, but then couldn't take it and he got defensive and the heated exchange happened.
Sally Helm
But those letters from the British prisoners saved the day. At one point, abruptly, British General Robert.
Tim Grove
Ross says, Mr. Skinner, it gives me great pleasure to acknowledge the kindness with which our officers left at Williamsburg have been treated. I wish you therefore to say to him, Dr. Greens, and to the friends of Dr. Beans that on that account and not from any opinion of his own merit, he shall be released to return with you.
Sally Helm
And that's it. Key's famous oratory didn't really play into it, but Dr. Beans is free and Key, this is so great.
Tim Grove
Tomorrow we'll be on our way with Beans and it's been very successful and this is all working out great. However, the British say not so fast.
Sally Helm
While Key and Skinner were on the ship, Leipzen said the British have been preparing for a massive attack on Baltimore.
Mark Leapson
They were about to unleash the biggest sustained bombing campaign in the history of warfare.
Sally Helm
Key and Skinner might have seen or heard some preparations. At the very least the they know where the British are. So the Brits can't let these Americans go yet.
Mark Leapson
They say you're going to have to wait until we start this battle and destroy Baltimore.
Sally Helm
Francis Scott Key and his companions are corralled onto the sloop they came in on to tethered to a British ship, the HMS Surprise. Not quite imprisoned, but not free to go. And the battle of Baltimore is about to begin. This is a high stakes confrontation. Baltimore is the third largest city in the U.S. a big shipbuilding center vital to the war effort. The British have a particular hostility towards the city because it's known to harbor British privateers, Americans who would go out and plunder British merchant ships.
Tim Grove
Grove told us the British called Baltimore a nest of pirates, so they really, really hated Baltimore.
Sally Helm
The battle has a land front and a naval front on land five miles outside the city. That same General Robert Ross who had released Beans, he was leads the British forces into Baltimore but he's killed by an American sharpshooter and the British retreat. The next day the British navy plus Frank Key and company move into Baltimore harbor. Their ships have names like Terror, Meteor, Devastation. Baltimore is protected by Fort McHenry, a star shaped fortification at the mouth of the harbor. The British strategy, if the fort falls, Baltimore falls. And so they begin a terrifying bombardment. The people of Baltimore can hear it and feel it. One citizen wrote to his wife, the.
Tim Grove
Firing at the fort has just commenced. Don't wonder if my writing looks as if my hand trembles for the house begins to shake. I don't think that anyone present had ever experienced anything like it. The pounding, just the noise, the ferocity of the battle.
Sally Helm
The Bombardment lasts for 25 hours. Not just bombs but also rockets. They whistled as they flew. Key and his companions watched from the deck of their ship.
Mark Leapson
At 3 o' clock in the morning on September 14, it stopped. It was pitch dark and it had been raining, so the visibility was very poor.
Sally Helm
Key and Skinner and Beans didn't know who won the battle. They just knew it was over.
Mark Leapson
You know, they didn't have any. You know, no one was tweeting out, we won. You know, there was no communication whatsoever. So they paced the deck until, what, the dawn's early light. And then Key had his glass on Fort McHenry and there was a flag on the flag pole. But it had rained all night and that flag was hanging limp.
Sally Helm
Key couldn't tell whether it was a British flag or. Or an American flag.
Mark Leapson
Well, the troops at McHenry took it down and put up a second flag. And the wind blew, and he saw that our flag was still there. So not only did he know that the flag was there, but he knew that the British were defeated.
Sally Helm
The flag was huge.
Tim Grove
The stars were two feet across from point to point and the stripes were 2ft tall.
Sally Helm
Kee was awestruck.
Tim Grove
That's his kind of moment of inspiration when he sees the flag flying. Apparently, he had a old letter in his pocket, and he takes it out and starts scribbling words on the back of it.
Sally Helm
Key had written poems before, just for friends and family. And both the experts we talked to said he likely also had a melody in mind. It was taken from an existing song, Anacreon in Heaven. The tune had been used for other political songs in the past, and Key would have known it. So he starts writing what would become the anthem right there on the boat, and he finishes it in his hotel, all four verses. There's a part in verse three that many people don't know. He writes, no refuge could save. Save the hireling and slave from the terror of flight or the gloom of the grave. He may have been talking about those enslaved people who made their way to the British ships in order to get their freedom. He says their blood has washed out their foul footsteps. Pollution. Some people interpret that as Key rejoicing in the death of these formerly enslaved soldiers who fought on the British side. We only sing the first verse today, but these lyrics are part of the anthem as Key wrote it. He shows the poem to Skinner, who had been by his side the whole night. Skinner shows it to a friend of his who shares it around. Eventually, it ends up in the local paper. It gets a really positive reception.
Tim Grove
People thought it captured the moment very well, and so it eventually was printed in newspapers up and down the East Coast, New York, Washington, Boston, and it's.
Sally Helm
Performed publicly for the first time about a month after the battle at Baltimore's Holiday Street Theater. That's where it first gets its name, the Star Spangled Banner. The song becomes a well known patriotic tune, but it doesn't become the national anthem in Key's lifetime. In fact, there is no national anthem yet. And Key doesn't go on to become a great American songwriter. He goes back to being a lawyer. Andrew Jackson eventually appoints him District attorney of Washington, D.C. there he takes on some notable cases where he attacks the abolition movement. In his personal life, he has become a supporter of the American Colonization Society, which advocated for the deportation of African Americans to Africa.
Tim Grove
Basically thought that the races could not exist in harmony together.
Sally Helm
Key dies in 1843, but the star Spangled Banner continues to be popular. In the late 1800s, the army and Navy make it one of their official songs. In 1918, it sung at the World Series for the first time. And people start introducing legislation to make it the national anthem. But it faced some obstacles.
Mark Leapson
It's hard to sing right if you're a man and you start on a high note. You're cooked when you come through the rockets red glare and the bombs bursting in air.
Sally Helm
In the 1930s, proponents of the anthem took an extra step to convince their fellow legislators.
Mark Leapson
They brought a soprano to sing the song in Congress, and it did pass. So it has only been the official national anthem since 1931.
Sally Helm
This song, written during the Forgotten War of 1812, becomes part of the American tradition. And those words, the land of the free and the home of the brave, are ingrained into American life. But Mark Leipson reminds us, you cannot.
Mark Leapson
Argue with the fact that when he said, in the land of the free and the home of the brave, there were a million enslaved people when he wrote those words, that's inarguable.
Sally Helm
Even during Key's lifetime, there were people who called attention to the idea that America was not the land of the freedom for everyone. One abolitionist broadside from the mid-1830s read, the land of the free, the home of the oppressed. Above, drawings depicting scenes of slavery, including one of enslaved people being led past the Capitol building. So people have long argued that those words are not a reality, but that they might instead be something to struggle towards. As Tim Grove put it, the definition.
Tim Grove
Of freedom and for who has changed over time, as it should, and it should be ultimately freedom for all. So the ideal embedded in the song is still, I would say, a pure ideal that is worthy of striving toward.
Sally Helm
Thanks for listening to History this Week for more moments throughout history that are also worth watching, check your local TV listings to find out what's on the History Channel today. This episode was produced by Ben Dickstein. By the way, his favorite version of the national anthem is by the trumpeter Arturo Sandoval at the Orange bowl in 2009. It's amazing. Check it out. History this Week is also produced by McCamey, Lynn, Julie McGruder and me, Sally Helm. Our researcher is Emma Fredericks. Our editor and sound designer is Dan Rosado. Our executive producers are Jesse Katz and Ted Butler. Don't forget to subscribe, rate and review History this Week wherever you get your podcasts, and we will see you next week.
Date: October 23, 2025
Host: Sally Helm
Guests: Tim Grove (historian, author), Mark Leapson (historian, journalist, Key biographer)
This episode dives into the complicated history and enduring legacy of "The Star-Spangled Banner." The podcast unpacks how Francis Scott Key’s famous lyrics were inspired by a very specific moment in the War of 1812, revealing the contradictions of early American ideals—especially regarding slavery. With expert insights, the episode explores Key’s life, the circumstances that led to the anthem, and how its meaning has evolved, challenging listeners to reconsider what “land of the free” has meant throughout U.S. history.
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Key’s moment of inspiration:
On the enduring paradox:
On the evolving ideal:
| Topic | Timestamp | |----------------------------------------------------|------------| | Theater performance & song debut | 01:06–03:13| | Introduction to Francis Scott Key | 06:01–06:53| | Key’s relationship to slavery | 06:39–09:39| | Causes & stakes of the War of 1812 | 10:15–11:28| | The burning of Washington, D.C. | 13:37–14:04| | British offering freedom to the enslaved | 14:15–15:08| | Beans kidnapping & Key’s negotiations | 15:41–19:23| | Battle of Baltimore & Fort McHenry | 20:28–23:54| | Key's inspiration & writing the anthem | 24:04–24:20| | Public reception & path to national anthem status | 25:45–27:41| | Contention over anthem’s ideals | 28:12–29:24|
This episode offers a nuanced, critical, and engaging exploration of the "Star-Spangled Banner" and its creator. Listeners are challenged to reconsider both the anthem's origins and its relevance—especially around the tension between American ideals and historical reality. The story ultimately invites reflection on who freedom has meant for, and how America can keep striving towards the song’s highest ideals.