The Grinnell 14 Take On the Bomb (feat. Peter Coyote)

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Episode: The Grinnell 14 Take On the Bomb

Date: November 10, 2025
Host: Sally Helm
Guest: Peter Coyote (formerly Peter Cohan, original Grinnell 14 member)

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Overview

This episode dives into the little-known but pivotal 1961 protest of the "Grinnell 14," a group of Iowa college students who traveled to Washington, D.C. to fast and peacefully protest nuclear weapons testing. Through the recollections of Peter Coyote—actor, activist, and one of the original protesters—the episode explores their motivations, strategy, and the lasting impact of their action, including how it sparked the broader student peace movement of the 1960s.

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Main Discussion Points & Insights

1. Context: Living Under the Shadow of the Bomb

• Era Anxiety: The episode opens with vivid scenes of young Americans—like the Grinnell 14—growing up with “duck and cover” drills out of fear of nuclear annihilation.
• Scientific Reality: Fallout from weapons tests was contaminating food in the U.S. as late as 1959 and “children were told not to eat fresh fallen snow” due to radiation. (05:00-05:53)

Quote:

"Just the existence of nuclear weapons fueled all sorts of anxiety."
—Peter Coyote [02:34]

2. Roots of Activism: Peter Coyote’s History

• Political Family: Peter grew up amid leftist politics and McCarthy-era trauma in New Jersey.
• Role Models: His primary caregivers were Sue Howard, a Black civil rights activist, and her community, reflecting the intersectionality of peace and civil rights activism.

Quote:

"I came from a very political family. A lot of my mother’s relatives were socialists and communists and labor organizers and pretty much lefty Jews."
—Peter Coyote [05:29]

Quote:

"Sue was put in charge of the whole household. And it's like she took all the sorrow and all the grief and she threw it in the sack over her shoulders… Until I was 14, this woman and her boyfriend were my primary parents."
—Peter Coyote [06:14]

3. Grinnell College: A Breeding Ground for Protest

• Campus Culture: Grinnell College, founded by abolitionists, fostered progressive values and was home to an "early hippie or beatnik" crowd—students already steeped in activism and counterculture (08:04-08:14).
• Bullying of Nonconformists: Long hair and black turtlenecks marked them for ridicule (“jocks shaved my friend’s head for covering his ears with hair” [08:30–08:53]).

4. The Nuclear Issue and The Peace Race

• Kennedy’s Influence: JFK’s calls for a “peace race” (not an arms race) inspired students nationally and at Grinnell. He resonated especially with youth (“He was hip. He brought poets in to read.” [11:23-11:31]).
• Soviet Escalation: Soviet nuclear testing in 1961, including the detonation of the largest bomb ever, pushed the issue to a boiling point.

Quote:

"Like we felt like, wait a minute, you’re taking away the future. This is bullshit. I’m not going to just sit around and watch my future evaporate.”
—Peter Coyote [09:31]

5. Strategy: Student Tactics for Respectability

• Deliberate Mainstream Appearance: To avoid being dismissed as radical “beatniks,” the 14 students wore jackets and cut their hair short; women styled their hair like Jackie Kennedy (13:10–13:34).
• Logistics: Raised money, bought two old cars, and were gifted a new Chevy and walkie-talkies by a supportive Iowan insurance executive (13:43–13:58).

6. The Washington Protest: Fasting and Silent March

• Arrival at the White House: The group marched in silence, holding signs (“Support Kennedy’s Peace Race”), not shouting, to signify gravity and seriousness ([16:24–16:31]).
• Press Coverage: Local and national press began to pay attention almost immediately.

7. The White House Meeting

• Historic Invitation: The Grinnell 14 were the first protest group ever invited into the White House ([17:20]).
• Meeting with McGeorge Bundy: Rather than JFK, students met with National Security Advisor Bundy, who appeared dismissive—offering orange juice (“Gandhi drank orange juice during his fasts”), which Peter refused to “feel the room.” ([19:23–19:55])
• Mixed Reception: Students left feeling like “annoying teenagers” rather than serious political actors ([19:55–20:44]).

Quote:

“The only way that I could get this guy’s attention would be to come back with an army.”
—Peter Coyote [20:44]

8. Facing Counter-Protesters and Nazi Hecklers

• Taunting: Counter-protesters threw fried chicken bones and mocked their fast. Even George Lincoln Rockwell of the American Nazi Party showed up to heckle ([21:00-21:06]).

9. The Ripple Effect: The Student Peace Movement

• Protest Spreads: Students from other campuses joined the protest, making the action contagious ([21:47]).
• Media Coverage: The New York Times later credited Grinnell as the origin point for the student peace movement ([25:18]).
• Influence on Later Movements: Tom Hayden (Students for a Democratic Society) is said to have cited the Grinnell protest as an inspiration ([25:18–25:54]).

Quote:

“It was an affirmation that you could generate something in your imagination and bring it to bear on the physical world, actually make it happen.”
—Peter Coyote [24:44]

10. Encounters on the Road: Cyrus Eaton

• Unexpected Welcome: On their way home, the group was stopped in Ohio and invited for breakfast at the estate of peace activist and industrialist Cyrus Eaton ([23:20-24:19]).

11. Legacy and Larger Impact

• Protest Continues: For a year, protests continued with 120 colleges sending students to the White House ([24:55–25:07]).
• Real-world Results: The activism contributed to the climate that enabled the Limited Test Ban Treaty (1963) and eventually a comprehensive test ban (1996; not ratified by the U.S.) ([26:15]).
• Ongoing Struggle: Peter reflects that the efforts didn’t "overturn the U.S." as they'd hoped, but the peace movement changed culture and persists today ([25:54]).

Quote:

“Although it didn’t completely overturn the United States that we wanted to overturn, it did change the culture… So, you win some and you lose some.”
—Peter Coyote [25:54]

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Notable Quotes & Moments

• “No more nuclear testing. We support Kennedy's peace race.” [02:05]
• “The first nuclear explosion made random annihilation a fact.” —quoting Bob Dylan, Peter Coyote [02:34]
• “I will never forget the hamburgers we had that night.” —Peter Coyote on breaking the fast, [21:43]
• “I’d like to be credited as a kind person.” —Peter Coyote [27:28]

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Important Timestamps

| Timestamp | Segment/Topic | | --------- | ---------------------------------------- | | 01:02 | Arrival of Grinnell 14 in D.C. | | 02:14 | Introduction of Peter Coyote | | 05:29 | Peter’s political background | | 08:04 | Progressive legacy of Grinnell College | | 09:31 | Nuclear anxiety and its effect | | 12:56 | Strategy: Mainstream appearance | | 16:24 | Washington protest strategy | | 17:20 | White House invitation and meeting | | 19:36 | The Bundy meeting: orange juice moment | | 21:00 | Counter-protesters and Nazi hecklers | | 24:44 | Reflections on protest legacy | | 25:54 | Changing the culture, not the system | | 26:15 | Test ban treaties and recent developments|

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Tone & Language

The conversation balances earnest, thoughtful retrospection (Peter Coyote's measured insights) with a lively, anecdotal recounting of the events (campus stories, road trip mishaps, surreal moments with millionaires and Nazis). The tone is sincere, poignant, and subtly humorous, echoing the idealism and grit of the era.

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Conclusion

This episode encapsulates the origins of the 1960s student peace movement—demonstrating how a determined group of students, with careful strategy and deep conviction, captured the attention of the nation and helped shift the conversation around nuclear weapons. The Grinnell 14's nonviolent tactics and their legacy serve as a touchstone for how youth activism, even when it falls short of immediate goals, can leave a permanent mark on society and culture.

Transcript

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[Sally Helm]

Podcast history this week, November 16th, 1961. I'm Sally Helm. It's early in Washington D.C. 7:30am to be exact. Two beat up cars pull up to the curb at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue. The White House. Fourteen college students have driven a long way, almost 1,000 miles. They all grew up in the atomic age, hiding under their desks as young kids for duck and cover drills. The fear of the bomb has cast a shadow over almost their entire lives. But just a few weeks earlier, there started to be some new hope that things could change. That's why the students are here. They unpack the signs that they made the night before.

[Peter Coyote]

No more nuclear testing. We support Kennedy's peace race. Those were the two messages. Basically.

[Sally Helm]

We spoke with Peter Coyote, one of the protesters who was there. He was 20 back then and going by his given name, Peter Cohan. He's now an actor, perhaps best known as the narrator of Ken Burns documentaries. And he grew up under the fear of the bomb.

[Peter Coyote]

The best quote on it is a quote by Bob Dylan where he said that the first nuclear explosion made random annihilation a fact. Just the existence of nuclear weapons fueled all sorts of anxiety.

[Sally Helm]

That anxiety only increased as it became clear that the fallout from nuclear weapons was toxic and that scientists in the US and the USSR were testing weapons in in the earth's atmosphere. So just like in the air in 1959, wheat and milk in the northern United States were found to be radioactive because scientists had been exploding nuclear bombs in Nevada and the fallout had drifted up to North Dakota, settled on the wheat and on the grass where it was eaten by cows. When the USSR tests more weapons in 1961, the fallout drifts over to the US to and public health officials warn parents, tell your children not to eat fresh fallen snow. It might be secretly contaminated. This understandably makes people very nervous. And President Kennedy has made this one of his key diplomatic issues. He wants to ban these tests to keep people safe from fallout to and as a first step towards nuclear disarmament.

[John F. Kennedy]

Together we shall save our planet, or together we shall perish in its flames.

[Sally Helm]

These Iowa college students think the issue is pretty important, which is why they've shown up on the doorstep of the White House to protest nuclear weapons tests and to engage in a three day fast which on this cold, drizzly day in 1961 has only just begun.

[Peter Coyote]

It was amazing. At a certain point you stopped being hungry and you got crystal clear.

[Sally Helm]

Today, the Grinnell 14, the college students who carried out what would later be called the start of the student peace movement in the 1960s. How did these students try to make sure that the press and the public would listen to their message? And what did they ultimately accomplish? Growing up in New Jersey, Peter Cohan was exposed to what many considered at the time to be radical ideas.

[Peter Coyote]

I came from a very political family. A lot of my mother's relatives were socialists and communists and labor organizers and pretty much lefty Jews.

[Sally Helm]

These are the post war years where fears of communism, the red scare, start to take hold.

[Peter Coyote]

I did see people broken in my family by the McCarthy period. Adults weeping in my living room, terrified. They lied about my family. They called them spies, called them traitors. And so I was very affected by that.

[Sally Helm]

Peter's father was a wealthy businessman, often absent, and his mother struggled with mental health issues. The family hires Sue Howard, a young black woman, to help raise Peter and his sister.

[Peter Coyote]

My dad was a very volatile, very kind of dangerous guy. And my mom was unreachable. And sue was put in charge of the whole household. And it's like she took all the sorrow and all the grief and she threw it in the sack over her shoulders. And my sister and I just gravitated to her as a safe place.

[Sally Helm]

Sue and her boyfriend and her friends would be over at Peter's house all.

[Peter Coyote]

The time, arguing about the Bible, listening to Errol Garner and Billie Holiday. And that's where the life was. And my mom was out in the living room staring into a glass of scotch. So Until I was 14, this woman and her boyfriend were my primary parents.

[Sally Helm]

During this time, the civil rights movement is picking up.

[Peter Coyote]

Sue was involved in integrating Englewood, New Jersey and she was the secretary of the Urban League.

[Sally Helm]

Peter watches as sue and other activists work to desegregate Englewood's school system. A years long fight. They go on to conduct sit ins, marches, boycotts.

[Peter Coyote]

So I brought all that in the background to Grinnell.

[Sally Helm]

Grinnell College in the middle of Iowa. When he realized that's where he'd be headed, Peter was not enthused.

[Peter Coyote]

I applied to nine schools and the only school I got into was Grinnell and I threw sort of a fit. I said, I'm not going to bum Egypt. I'm sorry, I'm not going anyway. It turned out to be a great school.

[Sally Helm]

Grinnell had been founded in the mid-1800s by abolitionists. John Brown stopped through escaping from one of his anti slavery raids. The school had progressive roots and a progressive present.

[Peter Coyote]

I met writers, poets, people who knew about folk music, people who knew about art and culture.

[Sally Helm]

Peter falls into a very hip crowd, early hippies or beatniks.

[Peter Coyote]

You know, maybe my hair was down to the bottom of my ears or something was already identifying with the counterculture and so were my friends. Camel cigarettes and black turtleneck college students.

[Sally Helm]

Not everyone on campus thinks they're cool.

[Peter Coyote]

My best friend, the late novelist Terry Bisson, was jumped by the jocks and had his head shaved for, you know, wearing hair that probably covered his ears. And to this day I regret that I didn't just cut my own hair in sympathy.

[Sally Helm]

Peter and his friends aren't just into smoking and Jack Kerouac. They're also activists.

[Peter Coyote]

Whatever I was interested In, I did 100% until it was exhausted. I was arrested. Something, something went wrong and it soon.

[Sally Helm]

Becomes clear to them where they should direct that energy. Nuclear bombs have changed the fabric of society around them. You can see the anxiety everywhere.

[John F. Kennedy]

In less than three hours, an H bomb might fall. Communism, what is it?

[Peter Coyote]

There were 500 science fiction films about flying saucers coming down with rays that would hypnotize people. And communism and all of this stuff was fueled together destroy America. And it wasn't exactly recognized as what it was, but it was, it was the specter of annihilation. We were agitated and we had to do something. Like we felt like, wait a minute, you're taking away the future. This is bullshit. I'm not going to just sit around and watch my future evaporate.

[John F. Kennedy]

Today every inhabitant of this planet must contemplate the day when this planet may no longer be habitable. Every man, woman and child.

[Sally Helm]

On September 25, 1961, President John F. Kennedy addresses the United Nations General Assembly. The Cold War is at a fever pitch. The Berlin Wall had just started construction, and the Soviets had just ramped up their nuclear weapons tests in the Earth's atmosphere, which led to those warnings about kids not eating snow. And instead of fanning the flames, Kennedy goes in the other direction.

[John F. Kennedy]

It is therefore our intention to challenge the Soviet Union not to an arms race, but to a peace race, to advance together, step by step, stage by stage.

[Sally Helm]

A peace race is actually a controversial thing, with the Cold War at such a fever pitch. But over in Iowa, Kennedy already has a lot of supporters on campus.

[Peter Coyote]

First of all, he was hip. He brought poets in to read. He walked down the street in Washington.

[Sally Helm]

At his inauguration, he's seen as a president for the youth. And his message resonates with college students across the country.

[John F. Kennedy]

Together we shall save our planet, or together we shall be perish in its flame. Save it we can, and save it we must.

[Peter Coyote]

Civil rights had taught us that stepping out and being part of a mass movement caught the attention of the press. So we decided that we would support Kennedy's peace race and we would protest the resumption of nuclear testing.

[Sally Helm]

Cold War tensions have only risen since Kennedy's speech. On October 30, the Soviet Union detonated a 50 megaton bomb. It is still to this day the most powerful nuclear device ever tested. Kennedy's argument is that each successive nuclear test provokes the other side to conduct their own test, usually with a bigger bomb. If there's a test test ban, the bombs will hopefully stop getting bigger. Some Grinnell students buy this logic and decide to publicly support Kennedy's plan. They adopt some of the tactics of the growing civil rights movement, the same kind of protests that Peter had seen back in New Jersey.

[Peter Coyote]

There were about 14 of us, and we conceived of a trip to Washington. We strategized it so that we'd have short hair and we'd have jackets and we'd look presentable.

[Sally Helm]

This is a key decision. The group doesn't want to be accused of being radicals and have their message shoved aside. They're coming from Iowa and they want to look as mainstream American as possible. So the men shave, the women adopt Jackie Kennedy style haircuts, and they make their plan go to Washington, protest in front of the White House while also fasting for three days.

[Peter Coyote]

We raised the money. We bought two old cars a 48 Chevy and a 49 Ford and Terry and I fixed them and got them running in good order.

[Sally Helm]

The 14 students gin up some media attention, reporters interviewing them from local papers.

[Peter Coyote]

The head of an insurance company in Des Moines heard about us and he gave us a brand new Chevrolet and three walkie talkie radios.

[Sally Helm]

They'll need the radios to communicate as they drive to stay together in their little road trip caravan. On November 13, 1961, the Grinnell 14 depart from Iowa. During their trip, a letter to the editor appears in the Des Moines Tribune. One Des Moines resident writes in I would like to propose a question to these students when they return. What did you achieve besides spending hundreds of dollars losing a few pounds, having a three day vacation in Washington and adding a few more newspaper clippings to your scrapbooks? That is what these students are about to find.

[Peter Coyote]

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[Sally Helm]

Spriesto Dzoich?

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[Sally Helm]

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[Peter Coyote]

We had signs, support Kennedy's peace race. We looked nice. We kept our mouths shut.

[Sally Helm]

The Grinnell 14 aren't shouting. It's not that kind of protest. They silently march in a circle carrying their signs. Their tactics are meant to reflect the seriousness of the nuclear threat. Plus they're fasting. Not a lot of energy to get loud. In Washington, no one seems to have anticipated their arrival. The first day of the protest goes mostly according to plan. No problems. When the day comes to an end, the students return to the places they're staying. And then a visitor, a White House aide, Marcus Raskin. He says, the President has read about your protest. Apparently in that morning's paper, word was starting to get out and he was.

[Peter Coyote]

Just below, hysterical with excitement, saying, do you know what this means? You're the first protest group in the history of the White House that has ever been invited in. Do you know what this means? This is like a historic moment and you can capitalize on it. And we did.

[Sally Helm]

The next morning, the 17th, the students start their protest in front of the White House again. Some of them do interrupt their fast a little, depending on how you look at it, by taking aspirin for their headaches. At 11am they take a break and head over to talk to the other side.

[Peter Coyote]

We were trying for peace, so we were testing weapons to extinguish the Soviets and they were testing weapons to extinguish us. So it was just natural that we would go talk to them.

[Sally Helm]

They walk over to the Soviet embassy. They reportedly get a cordial reception.

[Peter Coyote]

It was rigid.

[Sally Helm]

They meet with a deputy attache who gives them the party line. The Soviets are conducting their atmospheric nuclear tests out of self defense. That afternoon, the protesters make their way to the White House. Per their invitation, they're ushered into the fish room where FDR liked to hang his fishing trophies. It's now called the Roosevelt Room. Their meeting isn't with JFK himself. He's still away, but with National Security Advisor McGeorge Bundy. A Yale trained technocrat in the President's inner circle. He's known as a prodigy, a condescending prodigy.

[Peter Coyote]

So we go in, we sit down this far away from McGeorge Bundy, and I looked at him and I thought, I know who this guy is. This guy's solving a problem for his President. He doesn't care about us.

[Sally Helm]

Bundy starts the meeting with an offer.

[Peter Coyote]

He said, would you like orange juice?

[Sally Helm]

Remember, they're fasting. It feels to Peter like The offer is almost meant to taunt them, even though in theory they should all be on the same side.

[Peter Coyote]

And I just sat there and sort of felt the room. And I said, no, thank you. And he said, Gandhi drank orange juice during his fasts. I said, we're not. Thank you. That's how the meeting got started.

[Sally Helm]

The icy tone doesn't really improve. The meeting lasts for about 45 minutes. The students laying out their positions. They ask that the White House convene a national student conference centered, centered around peace. Bundy nods along, not giving them much. Says he'll pass the idea along to the president. Peter says Bundy even somewhat undermines the president's earlier position, saying that it's possible the US could resume atmospheric nuclear testing as a defensive necessity. The meeting ends, and Peter leaves feeling like what just happened. He expected them to be welcomed as serious political actors supporting the president. Instead, they leave feeling like they were treated as annoying teenagers.

[Peter Coyote]

The only way that I could get this guy's attention would be to come back with an army.

[Sally Helm]

The hypothetical army would have to wait. After the meeting, the Grinnell students walk back over to their protest site, where trouble is waiting.

[Peter Coyote]

These guys were eating fried chicken and throwing the bones at us. Classy act.

[Sally Helm]

Counter protesters are carrying buckets of kfc, taunting them with food. American Nazi party founder George Lincoln Rockwell is there too, in full uniform, along with his stormtroopers to jeer and heckle. The protest carries on for its third, third and final day without incident. In fact, students from Bluffton College in Ohio join the Grinnell 14 to start their own three days of protest. And students from Carleton College in Minnesota are on their way.

[Peter Coyote]

I will never forget the hamburgers we had that night.

[Sally Helm]

With those burgers comes a real sense of accomplishment. This protest could be the start of something big. The drive back to Iowa feels like a victory lap. They pick up a friendly hitchhiker. All's going well until.

[Peter Coyote]

The Ohio state troopers threw a roadblock across the highway.

[Sally Helm]

They're stopped somewhere in Ohio by the police.

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[Sally Helm]

On their way back to Iowa, from Washington, D.C. the Grinnell 14 have been pulled over by the police. But when the officer approaches their caravan, they're told, you are not under arrest.

[Peter Coyote]

No. They extended an invitation from Cyrus Eaton.

[Sally Helm]

Cyrus Eaton. He has close business ties to the Soviet Union and is well known for his effort to end the Cold War. The Grinnell students get a police escort to Eaton's estate.

[Peter Coyote]

This highway patrol took us into the millionaire's house. We brought the hitchhiker with us who was stuffing rolls into his jacket. It was kind of surreal.

[Sally Helm]

The students join Eaton for breakfast. Grapefruit, bacon, eggs, toast, jam, coffee.

[Peter Coyote]

I think he was showing a statement of appreciation for us, including the Soviet Union. Union in our deliberations and being fair players. I mean, this guy's not a communist. He was a really rich, indulgent guy, but he. He was correct. You know, Russians were people.

[Sally Helm]

Then the students go on their way, though not before being taken, to see the three white horses that Nikita Khrushchev had gifted to Mr. Eaton. It's a strange but harmless coda to their adventure. The students from those two other schools who agreed to go take up the mantle of the Grinnell 14. They turn out to be the first of many more.

[Peter Coyote]

It was an affirmation that you could generate something in your imagination and bring it to bear on the physical world, actually make it happen.

[Sally Helm]

The protests continue for a year. 120 schools in total from around the country come to voice their support for nuclear disarmament right in front of the White House.

[Peter Coyote]

The culture was changing. Things were actually changing, and we were sort of on the curl of the wave.

[Sally Helm]

In February of 1962, 4,000 students come to Washington to protest nuclear testing. The New York Times says the march had its origins at Grinnell. Later, Tom Hayden, leader of the Students for a Democratic Society, is said to have credited the Grinnell 14 as the start of the student peace movement. The activism on college campuses, of course, continues throughout the 60s. When Peter looks back on that time, on the peace movement that he was appointed part of, he thinks the results are mixed.

[Peter Coyote]

Although it didn't completely overturn the United States that we wanted to overturn, it did change the culture. And all of these movements are still extant and now exist in the real world, and they're being carried on by real people. So, you know, you win some and you lose some.

[Sally Helm]

On the narrow issue of nuclear test bans, there's some success. In July of 1963, the United States and the Soviet Union agreed to ban testing in the atmosphere, underwater and in space. That was followed by a comprehensive test ban treaty in 1996, though the US eventually refused to ratify it. And the last confirmed nuclear weapons test in the US was in 1992. But a few weeks ago, President Donald Trump announced on Truth Social that he wants the US to resume testing immediately. His administration later clarified that this didn't mean nuclear explosions, but it sometimes feels like the era of nuclear anxiety might be coming back. History this Week is a Back Pocket Studios production in partnership with the History Channel. To stay updated on all things History this Week, sign [e-mail] and if you have any thoughts or questions, send us an [e-mail] Special thanks to our guest actor, Peter Coyote.

[Peter Coyote]

My name is Peter Coyote. I'd like to be credited as a kind person.

[Sally Helm]

This episode was produced and sound designed by Ben Dickstein. It was also produced by me, Sally Helm for Back Pocket Studios. Our executive producer is Ben Dickstein from the History Channel. Our executive producers are Eli Lehrer and Liv Fiddler. Don't forget to follow rate and review History this Week wherever you get your podcasts and we'll see you next week.