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Sean Clements
Bridger, I'm. I'm grateful that you are here for this moment. In the history of this podcast.
Bridger Winegar
Is this the first time?
Sean Clements
This is the first time. Here comes haze and sh.
Commercial Voice
Done.
Sean Clements
We've done. How many episodes have we done?
Kevin
647.
Sean Clements
647. Of course, that's not worthy of a Hollywood reporter article. Like 300 episodes is. Literally nobody ever did this before Bridger did it. We must tell the story. It was my idea to do 300 episodes.
Bridger Winegar
What if somebody did 300?
Sean Clements
What if you did 300 episodes and the. And then it was written by a guy named Mikey? The article, Mikey o'.
Bridger Winegar
Connell.
Sean Clements
Sorry, I'm not being written about by someone named Mikey.
Bridger Winegar
That's your one rule.
Sean Clements
Sorry. I will not be written about by Mikey.
Bridger Winegar
Danny.
Sean Clements
Oh, Danny's fine. Sure, Danny's fine. We have had no communication from Sean
Bridger Winegar
outside of my texting.
Sean Clements
You texted earlier.
Bridger Winegar
I said, don't bother coming in today, Sean. You're working hard enough already.
Sean Clements
Oh. Oh, that changes everything.
Bridger Winegar
What does it change?
Sean Clements
Well, I guess the wellness check of it all.
Bridger Winegar
Oh, sure, you were worried.
Sean Clements
I mean, he would want me to push for Jared.
Bridger Winegar
Sure.
Sean Clements
It's the pot. Like it's about the work.
Bridger Winegar
Podcast first.
Sean Clements
It's about the podcast. That's how you get to 640. That's how we get to potentially getting a Hollywood Reporter article at episode maybe 1500.
Interjecting Speaker
You.
Sean Clements
What episode are you on now?
Bridger Winegar
I would say probably 306. 306. 306 maybe.
Sean Clements
That article is fresh.
Bridger Winegar
Yeah, I know. But also now kind of out of date.
Sean Clements
Oh, we'll talk about it every time you come on. For the rest of our lives. Which we will all be doing. We will all be doing these podcasts for the rest of our lives. You've been doing. I said no gifts for 306 episodes. You keep your circle tight in terms of. You don't really have a cast of characters surrounding the show. You don't really let personalities in beyond yourselves. Yes. You keep it very sterile.
Bridger Winegar
I would say people think it's cold. Sterile. Lifeless would be another word I would use.
Sean Clements
It creates the impression, at least, that there is no one else in the universe. It seems like you would like to simulate a world.
Bridger Winegar
No, no, no, no, no, no.
Sean Clements
Where it's just you.
Bridger Winegar
I want it to be suffocating.
Sean Clements
Okay. Okay. Cause we've gone and done the show. There are little people around.
Bridger Winegar
There are people there. I don't know any of their names.
Sean Clements
Yeah. And they seem to be very aware that there's a force field surrounding the mic table.
Bridger Winegar
Right.
Sean Clements
And the camera line. Like they eye it with fear.
Bridger Winegar
Yeah. There's a. When the mic is on, there's a line you don't cross. People have.
Sean Clements
Yeah. Oh, they have.
Bridger Winegar
They have. They don't anymore.
Sean Clements
They have.
Bridger Winegar
They don't anymore. Yeah. And you guys were on just last year.
Sean Clements
Just last year.
Bridger Winegar
We're late. I was told very early on we're going to get these guys on the podcast.
Sean Clements
Yeah.
Bridger Winegar
And then six years passed.
Sean Clements
Yeah.
Bridger Winegar
And we ran into each other at a restaurant.
Sean Clements
A restaurant is well elevated for what it was. I know you'd like to be a restaurant guy.
Bridger Winegar
What would you describe a building as? A building that serves food.
Sean Clements
It was a. Yeah, it was like a shack. Like a snack shack.
Bridger Winegar
A snack shack?
Sean Clements
Yeah.
Bridger Winegar
You'd call that. Frequently call things snack shacks.
Sean Clements
No, I frequently. When I. Oh, you don't go.
Bridger Winegar
Oh, okay.
Sean Clements
When I patronize them, you're a wrestler. But every time I've gone, you've been there.
Bridger Winegar
That's true 100% of the time.
Sean Clements
And it did lead to a booking on that show.
Bridger Winegar
Lucky booking.
Sean Clements
But it's been a while since you've been here.
Bridger Winegar
Yeah, I was on Zoom the last time.
Sean Clements
You were on Zoom the last time. Yes, yes, yes.
Kevin
I have an update.
Sean Clements
What?
Kevin
I have an update.
Sean Clements
Ok.
Kevin
This is from a different group text from a few weeks ago. Plus I'm going to be in Tahoe July 1 to July 5. Oh, wait. Different place, but yes, definitely gone. Keep going.
Sean Clements
So this.
Bridger Winegar
How did you find that one? How did you track down that text?
Kevin
I typed Tahoe into my phone. Hold on, I gotta get the door.
Sean Clements
That's Sean.
Bridger Winegar
Kevin's in Tahoe.
Sean Clements
We need everyone we can get here. Kevin. So whoever it is, you know, you might. You might as well bring them over.
Kevin
They're naked. Is that okay?
Bridger Winegar
Bring them in.
Sean Clements
Oh, my God.
Richie
This.
Sean Clements
So he. Kevin has been. He moved to Pittsburgh.
Bridger Winegar
Oh, that's why it's so dark.
Sean Clements
Yes.
Bridger Winegar
Okay. And he's been jerking me around all these dates that.
Sean Clements
So he has been getting jerked around by all these dates in Pittsburgh. That's basically he is pursuing the lifestyle.
Bridger Winegar
Right, Right. So now. And we don't even know where he's gone now.
Sean Clements
That door.
Bridger Winegar
You know where that door goes?
Sean Clements
Yeah. So there's two doors behind him. One is for. One is for tension and the other is for release.
Bridger Winegar
Oh, sure.
Sean Clements
That's all I know.
Bridger Winegar
Right. And which one did he just go through?
Sean Clements
Release.
Bridger Winegar
Release. Full release. Okay, good.
Sean Clements
And I think part of that is he fucked up. Look what he's been dealing with egregiously. Yes. And he was just probably thinking that he had gotten away with us discussing him fucking up a six year delayed booking on your show.
Bridger Winegar
Oh, yeah. Because that was also his.
Sean Clements
That was also his fault.
Ryan Reynolds
Right.
Sean Clements
That was also his fault.
Interjecting Speaker
Right.
Sean Clements
And so as you can. He's spending a lot of time in there.
Bridger Winegar
Yeah. It could be for the rest of
Sean Clements
the episode, but it's good. He likes all of it. It's not like. It's like he feels shame in like a negative way.
Bridger Winegar
He loves this.
Interjecting Speaker
He loves.
Bridger Winegar
He loves his feeling.
Sean Clements
Yes.
Bridger Winegar
Okay.
Sean Clements
That's right. He goes into the tension door to. Okay. So you see what he came back with.
Bridger Winegar
I brought back another person.
Sean Clements
This is Desmond. He named his son after the character from Lost.
Interjecting Speaker
He loves.
Bridger Winegar
Oh, of course.
Sean Clements
Loves the show Lost. Or you say of course. But are you familiar with.
Bridger Winegar
I've seen the first season of Lost.
Sean Clements
Okay.
Bridger Winegar
I watched the whole first season while working@overstock.com.
Richie
okay.
Sean Clements
He hates the first season because Desmond shows not overstocked.
Bridger Winegar
Desmond comes into. In another season, I believe, in season
Sean Clements
two, I think it. Season two, I believe, is kicked off by Desmond. The introduction of Desmond.
Interjecting Speaker
Yes.
Sean Clements
And so Kevin has been describing this as season two of his life.
Bridger Winegar
How are you feeling?
Sean Clements
I feel okay. It's inevitable in a way because we have the opposite situation as you have on your show where your show effectively takes place under the dome.
Bridger Winegar
Right?
Sean Clements
Ours. We are effectively under siege by middling talents.
Bridger Winegar
Right.
Sean Clements
Who inescapable demand. Demand screen time, mic time. Just forcing themselves on the show in
Bridger Winegar
a
Sean Clements
legally actionable way.
Bridger Winegar
Right. All just kind of in the name of self promotion.
Sean Clements
At best. At absolute best. And so I haven't even looked over at Richie. I can feel that he's just known. We're ten minutes in. He has known from the beginning that this is the one.
Bridger Winegar
This is the episode.
Sean Clements
The chair's empty.
Richie
This is where I get my shot.
Sean Clements
Richie, would you like to shit. Host the show with me?
Richie
I mean, I can.
Sean Clements
Bridger's a very critical guest. Bridger, like, Bridger is very judgmental. So can you.
Richie
I definitely. I can.
Bridger Winegar
I just gotta reframe the camera.
Richie
And then.
Sean Clements
Did you hear?
Bridger Winegar
He says he thinks he can just.
Sean Clements
I can do it,
Bridger Winegar
but you're not going to excel.
Sean Clements
No, he's saying that like he. He can't. Like he's perfectly capable. It's just like. Does he have the desire.
Bridger Winegar
Oh, interesting.
Sean Clements
It's a nap, right?
Bridger Winegar
It's interesting.
Sean Clements
You don't know this guy. He's incredibly disrespectful. Richie, will you host the show? Will you please come over here and host the show?
Richie
Yeah, let's do it.
Sean Clements
You have almost a thousand total episodes of experience, to say nothing of bonus shows. Did you do a. You have bonus shows?
Bridger Winegar
We're doing bonus Patreon. Of course.
Sean Clements
Patreon, of course.
Bridger Winegar
How many have you done total with Patreon and everything?
Sean Clements
Kevin, add it up.
Kevin
2002.
Sean Clements
Exactly 2000.
Bridger Winegar
There's an article.
Richie
That is an article.
Sean Clements
Richie gets one tomorrow.
Richie
It's my moment, my breakout.
Sean Clements
It's all about. Eaves me instantly.
Richie
I won't forget you, though.
Sean Clements
Do you know. Are you familiar with Bridger's show?
Richie
I'm so bad with names. And
Sean Clements
so you are. So your story is that you are not familiar with Bridger's show because you forgot his name. So you might have listened to the show, but the names involved. Yes, you have forgotten.
Richie
Yeah, with the kids, it's just. Stuff's on and it's okay.
Sean Clements
So you think while you're. While you're with your children, you have, I said no gifts.
Commercial Voice
Playing
Sean Clements
on a Beats pill at the beach.
Richie
That's exactly how I listen to it.
Sean Clements
It's a. It's a. It's a high premise show. Tough to sustain over a long time.
Richie
300 episodes.
Sean Clements
Yeah, that's hard. It's A burden.
Bridger Winegar
It's a lot for me.
Richie
It is.
Sean Clements
Do you have any questions for him?
Richie
So many. So many.
Bridger Winegar
Shoot.
Richie
You want to tell me about it?
Bridger Winegar
I'll try to remember. Kind of just try to remind you. Yeah. It's called I said no gifts and people. For example, Hayes and Sean will come on and bring me a gift.
Sean Clements
For example.
Bridger Winegar
For example Sounds like a great show. Is that ringing any bells?
Sean Clements
It's on a very powerful network.
Bridger Winegar
It's called. Exactly.
Commercial Voice
Right.
Bridger Winegar
Are you familiar with my favorite murder?
Richie
No.
Bridger Winegar
Okay. I'm very new. Not much of a podcast listener.
Richie
Yeah.
Bridger Winegar
Understand.
Richie
Yeah.
Sean Clements
It's a big show, Karen. Georgia. We never got Georgia.
Bridger Winegar
You never got Georgia.
Sean Clements
We. We went down the road a little bit.
Kalpen (Kal Penn)
We never.
Sean Clements
Yes. Never consummated.
Bridger Winegar
Interesting.
Sean Clements
A guest appearance with. With Georgia. Big show. Richie, I'm behind. You're catching up.
Richie
I am catching up now.
Sean Clements
What are you catching up on? Right now, Richie?
Bridger Winegar
Right now?
Sean Clements
Yes, right now.
Commercial Voice
God.
Richie
Nothing.
Sean Clements
Okay, so.
Bridger Winegar
So you're not catching up.
Sean Clements
That's why I'm not.
Richie
But I'm gonna start. I've been working on my house, so by the time I get home, I'm like, I'm out.
Sean Clements
What are you doing to your house now?
Richie
Renovating the whole thing. We actually just put in a bifold door for our patio, which is.
Sean Clements
That's the word for what Kevin has. It's nice, those two doors.
Bridger Winegar
That's a bifold door right there.
Sean Clements
Bifold door. Bi on one side, fold on the other side. Richie, it's all been for this. You've been so antsy about your screen time. Like building a screen life for yourself, as you say, getting your brand out there.
Richie
I just. I wasn't on top of it. I wasn't prepared.
Sean Clements
They love you out there, Richie.
Richie
I didn't know.
Sean Clements
The fans love Richie, don't they, Kevin?
Kevin
They do.
Richie
I'll try and do better then.
Sean Clements
Kevin looks at them with just like, have I given you nothing? But you don't know any of this. Like, you don't. Like you have no cast.
Bridger Winegar
I have no cast.
Sean Clements
How do you do it?
Bridger Winegar
It's a great question. We've got our producer, Ellis, and.
Sean Clements
But we know. But do we ever. We don't never hear of Ellis's life.
Bridger Winegar
Oh, on occasion. Okay. I need some.
Sean Clements
I need new lore for these guys.
Bridger Winegar
Actually, Ellis keeps it pretty close to their chest.
Kevin
Okay.
Bridger Winegar
I'm trying to think of what Ellis has revealed on the podcast.
Interjecting Speaker
Okay.
Bridger Winegar
Almost nothing.
Sean Clements
Almost nothing. Ellis, be nice.
Bridger Winegar
Ellis keeps it pretty professional. Okay, we'll get into it. Here and there for us.
Sean Clements
It's like, Kevin, sex stuff non stop.
Kevin
Mostly sex stuff. Stuff I'm into. Stuff I'm trying to get into.
Sean Clements
Yes.
Richie
So much moaning off camera.
Sean Clements
Used to be the Office, that he loved the Office.
Bridger Winegar
Oh, sure. That was the thing.
Sean Clements
But that was more we. We've now learned he never talks about
Bridger Winegar
the Office anymore out of embarrassment or.
Sean Clements
He basically. He basically like bag of a woman. And so it was all along for
Bridger Winegar
his love life, sex reasons. Right, right. That makes sense.
Kevin
I found my Pam. From the Office. Have you listened to that podcast, Richie? Office ladies?
Sean Clements
I have not.
Richie
I told you, I'm very new to the podcast world.
Bridger Winegar
What have you listened to?
Richie
A long time ago, I listened to Ron Burgundy.
Sean Clements
Jesus Christ, this company man. And pretending not to have heard my favorite murder. Is he still doing that?
Richie
No.
Bridger Winegar
I've been asking that a long time.
Commercial Voice
Yeah.
Bridger Winegar
I'll always, you know, you'll see the thumbnail and you'll think, can't possibly be doing it.
Sean Clements
Here it is. Comedy writer Bridger Weiniger said no gifts. Now he has more than 300 of them. Unbelievable.
Bridger Winegar
What do you want me to say?
Richie
Do you sell the gifts after.
Bridger Winegar
I've never sold. That's a. Most of.
Sean Clements
That would have been a good question.
Bridger Winegar
I would describe most gifts as unsellable, Mikey.
Sean Clements
That would have been a good question.
Bridger Winegar
He kind of asked.
Sean Clements
He said, how many do you still have?
Commercial Voice
Yeah.
Bridger Winegar
I didn't say.
Sean Clements
And that's when you're like a reporter for a trade publication and you need to, like, maintain these relationships. That's how you ask instead of what you really mean, which is how much money have you made selling the gifts as former possessions of celebrities with their DNA on.
Bridger Winegar
Right. Kind of plastering their name all over the ebay list.
Sean Clements
That's right. Huge market. That's right. On Poshmark.
Bridger Winegar
On Poshmark. Yeah. I haven't sold any of them. I've kept most of them.
Sean Clements
What is. I read this interview. What did Bowen Yang ring that you say you threw out?
Bridger Winegar
Bowen gave me, I think, maybe a 50 pound bag of birdseed.
Sean Clements
Okay.
Bridger Winegar
But I was.
Sean Clements
You said that stayed in New York. Which doesn't actually say you threw it out. It could be that you sold it.
Bridger Winegar
Okay, fine.
Sean Clements
You sold a 50 pound bag of birds.
Bridger Winegar
I saw there's a valuable bag of birds. Seed.
Richie
Just left it on the sidewalk in
Bridger Winegar
a city full of birds.
Sean Clements
With money.
Bridger Winegar
With money.
Sean Clements
It's New York.
Bridger Winegar
You can flip that in a nutshell.
Sean Clements
Can't be a bird in New York without money.
Bridger Winegar
Yeah. I think two things stayed in New York, actually.
Sean Clements
What was the question that gave you the most terror when he asked how
Bridger Winegar
would you define a bad guess?
Sean Clements
I saw that one and I thought that's a tricky. Here we go. R says, I've started being able to send somebody who was on purely for promotional purposes instead of for the love of podcast guest. Fucking sellout. Yes. Okay. I've met people like this. Somebody who may not even be aware, meaning of like where they are, of what they're doing. They just showed up.
Bridger Winegar
Right. I imagine you have a list of people that you've felt that.
Sean Clements
You know what's really fun?
Bridger Winegar
What?
Sean Clements
When they. When you watch them realize where they are 3/4 of the way into the podcast and understand. Find some comfort and relaxation in it.
Bridger Winegar
Finally click in.
Sean Clements
Or just be like, oh, this is where I am and it's okay.
Bridger Winegar
I would say the ones. The really bad ones, for me, that never occurred.
Sean Clements
Never. You know, including when they.
Bridger Winegar
The recording happened and then they just moved on with their.
Sean Clements
And it's hard to get out of. Exactly. Right.
Bridger Winegar
Okay. Now I will say the. The worst ones happened over Zoom.
Sean Clements
Okay.
Bridger Winegar
Which Zoom's not easy.
Sean Clements
And that's. This is your thing. It's like we're. I'm the COVID podcast. I'm the podcast that started at the beginning of COVID and yet I persevered.
Bridger Winegar
I pushed through, put in the work.
Sean Clements
And you set up a backyard studio.
Bridger Winegar
Yes.
Sean Clements
And then Scott Aukerman, kind of.
Bridger Winegar
Is he doing that now? You know, I don't know that it's bad for me. Not.
Sean Clements
I'm not going to be a part of this.
Bridger Winegar
I didn't know he was doing. He's in his backyard.
Commercial Voice
This is.
Sean Clements
I'm. I. This is my.
Kevin
Did you text him happy birthday, Hayes?
Commercial Voice
Huh?
Kevin
Did you text him happy birthday?
Sean Clements
Scott's birthday is today. You better get quick. Oh my God. You're gonna be off. It's after five. It's after eod. You can never text Scott after eo.
Interjecting Speaker
Yes.
Sean Clements
That's his very old fashioned Don Draper
Bridger Winegar
esque approach to a lot of different things. In the backyard. Comedy Bang.
Sean Clements
Bang.
Bridger Winegar
Interesting.
Sean Clements
And I look, I could never bring that stuff home to my family. You know, like this environment should not be around. No.
Bridger Winegar
Not around kids.
Richie
That.
Bridger Winegar
Especially not around you.
Commercial Voice
Look at this.
Sean Clements
Do you have any white whales?
Interjecting Speaker
Yes.
Sean Clements
Martha Stewart. Not really a nice way to refer to her.
Bridger Winegar
Do you think Martha Stewart. Does she do podcasts at all?
Sean Clements
I. I think she. I'm sure she has.
Bridger Winegar
Think of what podcast she would Even do.
Sean Clements
What do you think about the Snoop thing? A little much now, right? It's kind of doing it.
Bridger Winegar
It became a gimmick really fast, and then they didn't stop. So I don't think either of them enjoys it.
Sean Clements
You know how people are sometimes. Like, only one of these two people is a convicted felon and it's her. It's supposed to be his.
Bridger Winegar
Clearly, it's this guy's. The criminals.
Sean Clements
Is this crazy an inversion of reality?
Bridger Winegar
What are we talking about?
Sean Clements
She has podcast, but I think this is maybe a Ron Burgundy esque network launching project where they say, how long do I have to do this?
Bridger Winegar
Right. Bare minimum. Are there episodes?
Sean Clements
No, there are no episodes. So that's the one.
Bridger Winegar
She's just squatting.
Richie
Just her saying, this is my podcast
Bridger Winegar
in memory of Clive Davis.
Sean Clements
Oh, wow. That's pretty fresh. Yeah.
Bridger Winegar
Just getting on.
Sean Clements
And that's post. I think that's what kicked your 300th episode off of the trades.
Bridger Winegar
Clive Davis pushed it up.
Sean Clements
Wait, go back to the interview, please. This is good. This is like what Rogan does.
Bridger Winegar
Is this what Rogan does?
Sean Clements
Rogan has like this. Yeah, it just reads what's. What's on the screen. Your podcast is produced by Exactly Right Media, Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark's network and studio that skews heavily towards true crime. Because of my favorite murder. Do you know what the overlap is with your audience? Have you courted the true crime fans? I don't know if this is. You only have so many questions. What could possibly be, like, a great answer to this? But for you.
Bridger Winegar
For me, I think it's an interesting network for my podcast to be at because I think most of the network's fans kind of hate my podcast.
Richie
There's no killing in this at all.
Bridger Winegar
I think a lot of them were, at least initially, very confused. Well, this seems like a waste of resources for your network, and they probably still feel that way. Richie's pushing me out to see he has no interest.
Interjecting Speaker
Perfect.
Sean Clements
Exactly what they would say. They would hear his podcast and say, there's no killing in this at all. Exactly. Nothing talk about. Exactly. Right. Wow. Oh, look, you talked about Joe Rogan.
Bridger Winegar
Yeah, I was asked.
Sean Clements
Wow.
Bridger Winegar
I think I was not entirely clear on what the question was
Sean Clements
called. Barry Weiss, Dumbass of the Year.
Richie
Let's.
Bridger Winegar
Let's get through.
Sean Clements
We're not gonna do that here.
Commercial Voice
Okay.
Bridger Winegar
You're courting Barry.
Sean Clements
Let me just make that clear. Court not. We're not. We're not doing any of that. We're not handing out Dumbass of the year on this episode. Amy man wrote the theme song.
Bridger Winegar
Amy man wrote the theme song.
Sean Clements
How'd that happen?
Bridger Winegar
I texted her.
Sean Clements
Wow.
Bridger Winegar
And I mean, actually in a.
Sean Clements
She's too involved in comedy stuff.
Bridger Winegar
She.
Sean Clements
It's. It's she and John Hamm, honestly.
Bridger Winegar
But Amy's funny.
Sean Clements
I'm not saying that she couldn't do it. I'm saying that she shouldn't.
Bridger Winegar
She's got a lot of comedy friends.
Sean Clements
I think that's a mistake.
Bridger Winegar
It's working for Amy.
Sean Clements
I don't. I think. But imagine the counterfactual.
Bridger Winegar
Who do you want her to be friends with?
Sean Clements
Musicians. Name a musician, reputable artists.
Bridger Winegar
She can do both.
Sean Clements
It's too. It diminishes her. She shouldn't be doing your podcast. Sorry.
Bridger Winegar
I don't think she should be doing the whole legacy. I'll say it. She's cheapened the legacy.
Sean Clements
I don't. And I don't think you're the only thing that did. But, like, she. She likes comedy too much. These people like comedy too much.
Bridger Winegar
Yeah. What's Jon Hamm doing with comedy these days?
Sean Clements
It's been a while since he's really debased himself by, like, going on our podcast, for example.
Ryan Reynolds
Right.
Bridger Winegar
Oh, interesting.
Sean Clements
But, like, he.
Bridger Winegar
Tell me about that.
Sean Clements
He was in the comedy bank.
Kalpen (Kal Penn)
He was great.
Bridger Winegar
Okay.
Sean Clements
He crushed. They can do it, but they should not.
Interjecting Speaker
He wore a blank check hat on his Apple TV show.
Bridger Winegar
Oh. How do you feel about that?
Sean Clements
That's the lowest. I could never have imagined that he wore.
Bridger Winegar
Wait, he wore that? He could see a blank check hat in the show where he's robbing his
Sean Clements
neighbors and now is that really what happened, Casey?
Interjecting Speaker
Yeah, he's in the show on the scripted show. He walks in. I haven't watched it, but I've seen the clip, and he's wearing a blank check podcast hat on the show.
Sean Clements
Wow.
Bridger Winegar
What. What is the show? Guess I don't know that much about the show.
Sean Clements
The show is called you'd Friends and Neighbors.
Bridger Winegar
Right.
Sean Clements
And it is, Casey. I mean, you know everything about it.
Interjecting Speaker
Yeah. It's called your Friends and Neighbors. It's on Apple, and as far as I know, it's about Jon Hamm listening to podcasts.
Bridger Winegar
He's a huge podcast person.
Sean Clements
Hollywood handbook. So this is so crazy. Like, we're recording a podcast with Jay Pharaoh. Yeah.
Bridger Winegar
Okay. Or DJ Vlad.
Sean Clements
Yeah, okay.
Ryan Reynolds
Yeah.
Bridger Winegar
All right. Yeah.
Sean Clements
Sorry. With. With DJ Vlad.
Bridger Winegar
DJ Vlad.
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Bridger Winegar
Yeah.
Sean Clements
There's so many Russian dashboards.
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Sean Clements
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Bridger Winegar
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Sean Clements
Hollywood Handbook what do you think of this Taylor Swift wedding?
Bridger Winegar
Until a couple of days ago, I didn't. I. I thought it was some sort of performance. I'm happy for her. I'm happy that she booked.
Sean Clements
You thought it was some sort of performance.
Bridger Winegar
I couldn't figure out. I couldn't figure out why, like, is it going to have an audience?
Sean Clements
So this is. That's interesting because you're saying because it is in like a huge arena which
Bridger Winegar
is kind of traditionally reserved for performance.
Sean Clements
Yes, that's. Now that is interesting. Is it going to be filled? I mean, I assume there will be people there, but the question is, will they be sitting in the stands?
Bridger Winegar
Right? Is that. Will they be holding popcorn?
Sean Clements
Will they be. Will the concessionaires be operating light up bracelets?
Bridger Winegar
I'm not. I'm not sure. I genuinely, I'm curious. Are they selling tickets?
Sean Clements
Thank you for trying to spare me, Bridger, and just keep it moving, but
Bridger Winegar
I just felt something.
Sean Clements
His blade drawn against my throat. Light up bracelets. That's exactly what they wear at Taylor Swift shows. I'm not sure they light up, but they're definitely bracelets. Some of them probably light up. It's a good question. And will. Will the basketball team be playing?
Bridger Winegar
Well, I think that's. Cause that's what they do there all
Sean Clements
the time, you know, and she can afford it.
Bridger Winegar
She can afford to have a basketball team playing during her wedding.
Sean Clements
She can afford to book two NBA basketball teams to play a regulation game outside of the season and have that game count
Richie
and have Fergie sing the national anthem.
Sean Clements
Oh, no. My last second of podcasting, I just felt it go by
Bridger Winegar
the final episode. It's interesting.
Sean Clements
No, the show will continue with who I think we all know. Fergie. That's right. She sang that crazy national anthem. I would never, ever have pulled that up in this moment. And I'm the one that introduced this concept like it was my idea, but clearly it was Richie's all along, the whole time. Wow. Why? Ella Hunt is everywhere right now.
Bridger Winegar
Why is she.
Sean Clements
I didn't know she was. It shows how out of touch I am.
Bridger Winegar
Ella Hunt,
Sean Clements
she was in Dickinson on Apple tv, which I had a cup of coffee. We've both been around the.
Bridger Winegar
Sure.
Interjecting Speaker
The business.
Sean Clements
Met a lot of people.
Bridger Winegar
Now she's in.
Sean Clements
Now she's in. Not suitable for work.
Bridger Winegar
NSFW.
Sean Clements
They took my temperature on that.
Bridger Winegar
They took your 10. Moved on.
Sean Clements
I don't know how far it would have gone. Sometimes you say no to something just so to get ahead of them. Saying no to you.
Bridger Winegar
Sure.
Sean Clements
You know what I mean?
Bridger Winegar
Right. Right.
Sean Clements
You don't wanna.
Bridger Winegar
You want that egg on your face.
Sean Clements
Yes.
Bridger Winegar
Not suitable for work. Didn't want me.
Sean Clements
We can't have that.
Bridger Winegar
I don't think you can have that.
Sean Clements
Outside Taylor Swift's rehearsal dinner, a surprising calm and security worthy of Gaddafi.
Bridger Winegar
Who picked Gaddafi for this headline?
Sean Clements
You know who I think it was Mikey. This has Mikey written all over it.
Bridger Winegar
He is.
Sean Clements
I mean, he compares you to Gaddafi multiple times.
Bridger Winegar
It's not a favorable comparison.
Sean Clements
Do you expect to meet a similar end? He asks you why. Why would that ever happen?
Bridger Winegar
Where did that question come from? Gaddafi. That's interesting. Did Gaddafi have a particular type of security that you would need to.
Sean Clements
I guess maybe what he's saying is penetrable.
Bridger Winegar
Oh, interesting. I mean, ultimately it will fail.
Sean Clements
At some point. Were he still in a position to fire people after that. I mean, worthy of good. There would have to at least be a conversation.
Bridger Winegar
Yeah. So you would never want to sit somebody down, say, like, hey, some things I've noticed.
Sean Clements
How do you. You just have one person. You're talking to them.
Bridger Winegar
Yeah. You're kind of.
Sean Clements
How do you do that? How do you. And you don't have the computer. You don't have Richie.
Bridger Winegar
Yeah, I. I do feel like I'm restraining myself right now.
Sean Clements
Now, what would it look like if the leash came off?
Bridger Winegar
If the leash came off?
Sean Clements
Yeah.
Bridger Winegar
It's uncaged.
Sean Clements
Yes.
Bridger Winegar
I'd be asking you a lot of questions.
Sean Clements
Okay.
Bridger Winegar
Asking you a lot of questions.
Interjecting Speaker
Now.
Bridger Winegar
I want to step on any toes here.
Sean Clements
But how?
Bridger Winegar
I want to step on Richie's toes.
Sean Clements
But what is that? How does you do that?
Bridger Winegar
Pure curiosity. Just my deep curiosity.
Sean Clements
I would Say, let a couple rip.
Bridger Winegar
I'm really. I'm just so. I am genuinely curious as to.
Sean Clements
Yeah.
Bridger Winegar
You in this moment. What are you thinking about Sean?
Richie
Yeah.
Bridger Winegar
What do you think Sean is going to think ultimately about this situation?
Sean Clements
I think I'm happy he's getting his time.
Bridger Winegar
He needed a break.
Sean Clements
I think right now he has a lot. You know, it's all good problems. You know what I mean? It's like.
Bridger Winegar
It's the problems you like to have.
Sean Clements
It's a lot better than not having these things on your plate.
Bridger Winegar
Right.
Sean Clements
But it can be stressful.
Bridger Winegar
People forget that as well.
Ryan Reynolds
Yes.
Sean Clements
Yes. But being alone with the stress can also. You have to be very intentional when you're taking the time, which I'm really glad he is. When Kevin said he's in Tahoe, I was overcome with pleasure.
Bridger Winegar
You were happy? Of course.
Sean Clements
I was overcome with pleasure. Because my friend is getting his time, recharging. That's the hope.
Bridger Winegar
Then he can bring it back to the show.
Sean Clements
Yes. But that just being sitting with the stress of. He has a movie, is a movie.
Bridger Winegar
He's got a movie.
Sean Clements
It's hard to have a movie.
Bridger Winegar
A lot of pressure. It's one of the hardest things you can do.
Sean Clements
Yes, he says that.
Bridger Winegar
I know. He's told me. He keeps telling me.
Sean Clements
And so that's why we need. That's why these places exist, these special places, the Tahoes. That's why they're there.
Bridger Winegar
These cabins, the restorative waters. Whereas you're more just go, go, go.
Sean Clements
Yeah, I mean, look, I showed up, didn't I?
Bridger Winegar
You're here. There's only one of you here, Right? I don't know if there's much more to say about that.
Sean Clements
So, yeah, I think that when you ask, what am I feeling right now? I could just straight up goosh. I'm so happy for my friend. I could just goosh all over the place.
Bridger Winegar
That's probably what the listener wants to hear.
Sean Clements
They do hear it a lot. So I think at this point they might be a little sick of it.
Kevin
What I meant to ask, is Tahoe in Utah? I said, is Tahoe in U Haul? Sorry.
Bridger Winegar
What a good question. Either way, it's just off the rails today. You've been to Tahoe?
Sean Clements
Have not managed to make my way out there yet. It's kind of looking farther and farther away on the horizon for me. The faster I run, the farther away it gets. It feels like sometimes.
Bridger Winegar
Richie, have you been to Tahoe?
Richie
I have not, actually. One of the few places I haven't been
Commercial Voice
Bridger.
Bridger Winegar
It's right there on the California Nevada border.
Sean Clements
Right. Have you been there?
Bridger Winegar
I've driven through. Driven through.
Sean Clements
You know what's interesting? I can hear you so clearly, and yet I don't have headphones. Is this just a connection we've developed over the years? Kevin, I could hear your voice clear as a bell.
Kevin
That's good. It must be years of work whittling away.
Sean Clements
Okay, ask me another question. That was great.
Bridger Winegar
That's a good question, right?
Sean Clements
That was a really good question.
Bridger Winegar
Right? Yeah, great question. Fourth is coming up.
Sean Clements
Yeah.
Bridger Winegar
Big plans.
Sean Clements
Big plans. Yes. I'm doing a lot of drone shows.
Bridger Winegar
I've just happened to be a few drone shows.
Sean Clements
I'm doing some drone comedy.
Bridger Winegar
Okay.
Sean Clements
So I guess. Are you doing that as well?
Bridger Winegar
No, I'm still in the fireworks drone.
Sean Clements
Doing, like, Patriot. Yeah, like, type stuff, simulated fireworks and flags and things like that. You got it. Like, where the industry's at right now? Like, we have to do the fireworks industry. I was. Well, where the comedy industry and the fireworks industry is.
Bridger Winegar
It's all headed towards drones.
Sean Clements
Yes. So, like, we. Yeah, we've. Like the. The TV writing space is flourishing, but,
Bridger Winegar
like, sometimes you have to say no to.
Sean Clements
Yes, that's right. And, like, you know, if one of us could have a spot in it, I'm glad it's Sean.
Bridger Winegar
Of course. Well, I mean, how else do you go to Tahoe?
Sean Clements
Yes.
Bridger Winegar
That could be in Tahoe if we hadn't said no.
Sean Clements
That's right. And we can't both go. One of us has to do the show.
Bridger Winegar
Yes.
Sean Clements
But, yeah, I am doing. I'm smashing watermelons with.
Bridger Winegar
Via drone.
Sean Clements
Via drone. Yes.
Bridger Winegar
So carrying into the air, dropping.
Sean Clements
I'm Galdur 11.
Bridger Winegar
And that's. Is this open field kind of show
Sean Clements
or is it heavily obscured by buildings?
Bridger Winegar
Okay, right. You're doing it in city spaces and
Sean Clements
applying drones, which is like. It was pitched to me as like, an advantage of the. Of the drone format because you can't really set off fireworks in a. In a heavily urban environment.
Bridger Winegar
Right. But keep that for.
Sean Clements
Yes. Over the ocean.
Bridger Winegar
Over the ocean. Like dry fields.
Sean Clements
But. But I'm. I'm finding that the. The eyelines similar problems to. To the. To. To a fire.
Bridger Winegar
Firework. Yeah, of course.
Sean Clements
Yes.
Bridger Winegar
That's why it works so well with firework. I mean, you know, it's a nice replacement for a firework.
Sean Clements
Yeah. What about you? You're doing. You're just doing open field.
Bridger Winegar
I'm doing open field. I am gonna be doing something and
Sean Clements
that's the equivalent for people that don't know. That's the equivalent of an open mic for.
Bridger Winegar
Yes. You know, I'm not saying so you can show up.
Kalpen (Kal Penn)
You just.
Sean Clements
You put your name on the. On the list.
Bridger Winegar
I'm putting in the hours right now.
Sean Clements
You go up and you kind of
Bridger Winegar
just try things, see how people respond to it before you kind of take it to a real stage.
Sean Clements
And everyone else there is also a craftsman. And so you get feedback. People that are actually doing it.
Bridger Winegar
You might be inspired by something instead
Sean Clements
of, like, some who just, like, rolled off the, like, turnip truck.
Kalpen (Kal Penn)
Right?
Bridger Winegar
Yeah.
Sean Clements
These guys, your drones are too. Whatever. Loud. Like there's louder than fireworks.
Bridger Winegar
Like, and they are loud if, like,
Sean Clements
some of the, like some of the really good ones are. Are allowed. Yes.
Bridger Winegar
Right.
Sean Clements
But people are expecting something quieter than a fire. Certainly not louder than a fireworks show.
Bridger Winegar
Right. Not louder, but more sustained noise.
Sean Clements
PR issue.
Bridger Winegar
Yeah.
Sean Clements
By.
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In this episode of Hollywood Handbook, hosts Sean Clements and Hayes Davenport (Hayes is mostly off this episode, referenced as being away in Tahoe) reunite with comedian, writer, and podcaster Bridger Winegar (host of I Said No Gifts!). The discussion dives into the realities of podcasting longevity, the ins and outs of guest management, podcasting culture, and the absurdities of the industry. The three also touch on network misfits, “white whale” guests like Martha Stewart, and playful reflections on legacy and the comedy community. Regulars Kevin, Richie, and others make appearances, adding to the show’s signature inside-joke-laden, meta, sardonic energy.
Bridger’s Minimalist Approach
Hollywood Handbook’s Chaotic Energy
Booking Tales & Delays
Show Production & Producer Mystique
Keeping & (Not) Selling Gifts
Most Notable Gift
What Makes a Bad Guest?
Pandemic Podcasting
Big Dream Guests
Being an Outlier on a True Crime Network
Amy Mann Wrote the "I Said No Gifts!" Theme
Meta References & Industry Inside Jokes
Tahoe, Rest, and Show Dynamics
Fourth of July Drone Comedy
Sean on Podcast Episode Fatigue:
“We've done. How many episodes have we done?...647. Of course, that's not worthy of a Hollywood reporter article. Like 300 episodes is. Literally nobody ever did this before Bridger did it. We must tell the story.” (01:27–01:30)
Bridger on His Show’s Vibe:
“I want it to be suffocating.” (04:26)
Sean on Podcasting Intrusions:
“We are effectively under siege by middling talents who inescapably demand screen time, mic time. Just forcing themselves on the show in a legally actionable way.” (10:13–10:42)
Bridger on Selling Gifts:
“I would describe most gifts as unsellable, Mikey.” (19:12)
Bowen Yang’s Absurd Gift:
“Bowen gave me, I think, maybe a 50-pound bag of birdseed.” (20:05)
On Bad Podcast Guests:
“...when you watch them realize where they are 3/4 of the way into the podcast and understand. Find some comfort and relaxation in it.” (21:35–21:54)
Bridger on Audience Fit:
“...I think most of the network's fans kind of hate my podcast.” (26:20–26:32)
Joking About Taylor’s Arena Wedding:
“Will they be holding popcorn?” (34:09)
Sean Celebrating Hayes' Rest:
“I was overcome with pleasure. Because my friend is getting his time, recharging. That's the hope.” (40:31–40:40)
This episode is a quintessential Hollywood Handbook: self-referential, skewering the entertainment industry and podcasting with genuine affection, meta-comedy, and layered in-jokes. Bridger Winegar’s return provides both a wry perspective on self-produced podcasting and a foil for the more chaotic, ensemble-driven ethos of the hosts. The result is a breezy, joke-heavy conversation about why they podcast, who gets famous, and the bizarre micro-celebrity decisions that drive the scene—even down to whose name appears in trade articles, and whether Amy Mann or Jon Hamm should really be friends with podcasters.
Listening to this episode offers a peek into the rarely-glamorous, always-strange world of podcasting—and why these behind-the-scenes discussions are often more entertaining than the big milestones themselves.