Gil Ozeri, Our Close Friend Again Maybe

Summary

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Hollywood Handbook — “Gil Ozeri, Our Close Friend Again Maybe”

Release Date: June 16, 2026
Hosts: Sean Clements, Hayes Davenport, Eddie Pepitone
Guest: Gil Ozeri

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Episode Overview

In this characteristically loose, meta, and playfully combative episode of Hollywood Handbook, Sean, Hayes, and Eddie welcome comedian and writer Gil Ozeri back to the show—though “welcome” is up for debate. The episode unfolds as a comedic wrestling match over status, trust, and the existential artifice of showbiz podcasts. The conversation, driven by bits and escalating improvisation, explores show business milestones, the nature of podcasting, the fabrication of success, creative partnerships, and—repeatedly—the fragility of trust. Gil tries (and fails) to promote his new podcast, only to be immediately caught in multiple fibs. The hosts, meanwhile, meditate ironically on memory, identity, and the absurdity of both Hollywood and podcasting.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. The Uncertain Welcome

• [01:25] Sean sincerely welcomes Gil back; Eddie cuts in, hesitant:

  “I'm gonna wait and see if it's good to have him back here. … I don't like to assume. … I'm at work right now.” (Eddie Pepitone, 01:27)

• Gil and Eddie riff on withholding judgment—“Is it okay if I also don't make an assumption about whether I'm having a good time?” (Gil, 01:52)

2. The Hollywood Handbook Hot Streak

• Sean and Eddie reflect—somewhat boastfully, somewhat anxiously—on their recent “murderers row” of guests (William H. Macy, Riz Ahmed, Sarah Sherman).
• Discussion about humility in showbiz and whether it helps or hurts:

  “Unfortunately, humility is not always a virtue in this business, and you do kind of have to be your own PR team sometimes.” (Eddie Pepitone, 02:34)

3. Confusion and Fabrication: The ‘Kevin’ Saga

• Gil attempts to plug a fictional Amazon Prime show, “Kevin,” set in an animal rescue, where he claims to play the manager.
• This is rapidly unraveled:

  “I don't think the Kevin show is real… I don't think you have that show.” (Sean Clements, 09:04)

• The hosts play up the deception, leading to an extended riff on trust:

  “Once it is broken, Gil, it's not like a lamp that you can just glue back together, is it?” (Eddie Pepitone, 09:51)

Memorable Moment:

Gil, backed into a corner, admits:

“I'm willing to let go and say Kevin is fake. I'm willing to like let go of that and say that's not a real show on Amazon Prime.” (Gil Ozeri, 11:01)

4. Showbiz Status Anxiety

• Gil reveals insecurity about his own project after hearing about the hosts' success:

  "Now I'm going to talk about my podcast, my piss ant podcast, when these guys are doing so well..." (Eddie Pepitone mimicking Gil's anxiety, 12:00)

• The hosts riff about podcast longevity (Sean claims 49 years):

  “That's been our mindset for 49 years.” (Sean, 13:21)
  “How long have I been doing it? 11 minutes. That's as long as I've been doing it.” (Eddie, 13:36)

5. The Real Podcast — and More Confusion

• Gil finally reveals his actual new podcast, Good Science, co-hosted with Anthony Atamanuik:

  “The podcast is called Good Science. I host it with Anthony Atamanuik.” (Gil, 15:52)

• The format: Atamanuik as “RFK Jr.,” Gil as an “unfiltered comedian” (Kyle Quim), riffing on health misinformation.
• The hosts continue to press Gil for clarity—both about the idea and about whether his character might be an amalgamation of real comedians (Colin Quinn? Kyle Kinane?).

6. Meta Bits: Trust, Identity and the Artifice of Podcasting

• Throughout the episode, the hosts claim to forget anything outside the current episode, referencing a Severance-like state:

  “I didn't exist before this timer started.” (Eddie, 19:50)
  “The nice thing about forgetting every episode of your podcast as soon as it's over is you can listen to it just as a fan.” (Sean, 38:17)

• Discussion of trust returns cyclically, with lamp analogies:

  “Trust, once broken, it's not a lamp, right? ... Can't just glue it back together..." (Eddie, 44:49)

7. Absurd Confessionals: The Anthony Atamanuik Dynamic

• The hosts prod Gil to ‘break up’ with Atamanuik for the sake of the bit; Gil gives a mock-confessional about being controlled by Tony:

  “Tony has control over me. He forces me to do things I don't want to do. Smell different stuff. … He makes me cook for him with my crack out.” (Gil, 27:36)

• The discussion devolves into escalating (and increasingly surreal) bits about giving “a peek” (of his butt crack) as a present, to much confusion over what constitutes a “present.”

Notable Quotes:

“You showing a little bit of your butt crack is the present.” (Sean, 43:55)
“My God. Mr. Egomania.” (Eddie, 43:58)

8. Meta on Podcast Structure and Identity

• Gil asks existential questions about podcasting, doors, and memory (prompting Sean's Severance joke).
• Unwinding the metaphoric “lamps,” “open books,” and what questions even mean in podcasting.

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Notable Quotes & Moments (with Timestamps)

• “Should we talk about it?” (Eddie Pepitone, 02:18)
• “I would love to hear it.” (Gil Ozeri, 02:47)
• “You can't fail on this show.” (Gil Ozeri, 05:49)
• “If you were here with a potato, it would have been the same.” (Gil, 06:21)
• “Once it is broken, Gil, it's not like a lamp that you can just glue back together, is it?” (Eddie, 09:51)
• “I'm willing to let go and say Kevin is fake.” (Gil, 11:01)
• “How long have I been doing it? 11 minutes. That's as long as I've been doing it.” (Eddie, 13:36)
• “Tony has control over me. He forces me to do things I don't want to do.” (Gil, 27:36)
• “He makes me cook for him with my crack out.” (Gil, 28:10)
• “You showing a little bit of your butt crack is the present.” (Sean, 43:55)
• “Trust, once broken, it's not a lamp, right?” (Eddie, 44:49)
• “A lamp could also look like buttocks or a penis.” (Eddie, 50:16)
• “I am going to be a part of participating financially in the Kyle show, which I think could actually be a nice little piece of business podcast.” (Eddie, 51:07)

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Segment Highlights with Timestamps

| Timestamp | Segment | Content / Notable Moments | |-----------|-------------------------------------------|-------------------------------------| | 01:25 | Opening & Tentative Welcome | Gil’s presence debated. | | 02:34 | Status in Showbiz | Humility, recent big-name guests. | | 06:21 | “Potato” Bit | Comparing guests to potatoes. | | 09:51 | Trust and Lamps | Repeat lamp/trust analogy begins. | | 11:01 | “Kevin” Confession | Gil backpedals on fake show plug. | | 13:36 | Podcast Longevity Exaggeration | “I’ve been doing it 49 years…” | | 15:52 | Gil’s Real Podcast | Good Science premise explained. | | 19:50 | Meta on Memory & Existence | “I didn’t exist before this…” | | 27:36 | Tony Atamanuik Bit | Gil confesses mock “abuse.” | | 43:55 | Present = Butt Crack | Surreal escalation of the bit. | | 44:49 | Lamp Metaphor Returns | “Trust, once broken, it’s not a lamp…” | | 50:16 | Body Part Lamps | “A lamp could also look like buttocks or a penis.” | | 51:07 | Business Pitch for Kyle Show | Eddie proposes funding a spinoff. |

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Episode Tone & Style

The entire episode is driven by improvisational, ironic banter—the hosts and Gil constantly undercut themselves and one another, escalate each other's bits, and simultaneously inhabit and deconstruct the world of showbiz podcasts. Much of the humor is built on recurring riffs around trust, show business mythology, and the sometimes farcical nature of creative self-promotion. The mock-memorialization of their own podcasting achievements, the meta-reminders that nothing outside the episode exists, and the mock-interventions over Gil’s “lies” all serve the surreal tone of Hollywood Handbook at its best.

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Summary Takeaway

For listeners who haven’t tuned in: This episode is a relentless, self-aware farce about the games of creative ego and insecurity among comedians and podcasters. Gil Ozeri, both guest and foil, is lovingly roasted for his struggle to promote his work, his made-up animal shelter show, and his willingness to fold under pressure. All the while, the hosts lampoon the hollowness of podcast fame, riff on trust using a lamp as metaphor, and turn the art of the plug into an existential game. The episode is an inside-baseball, abstracted victory lap for Hollywood Handbook’s singular style.

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Transcript

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[Sean Clements]

It's good to have you back here.

[Gil Ozeri]

I'm excited to be back.

[Eddie Pepitone]

Yeah. And I'm gonna wait and see if it's good to have him back here.

[Sean Clements]

I.

[Eddie Pepitone]

And it's nothing personal. I don't like to assume. Look, as a person, it's nice to see you for the show, which is a professional venture. I mean, I'm at work right now.

[Gil Ozeri]

You never.

[Eddie Pepitone]

Job. Yeah, I. I don't want to just say, oh, pressure's off. It's good just to have you here.

[Gil Ozeri]

Right. You know, is it okay if I also don't make an assumption about whether I'm having a good time?

[Sean Clements]

I'm sharing how I feel right now.

[Gil Ozeri]

Yeah.

[Sean Clements]

Like, and that objectively, I can check in with myself and say, like, it is nice to have him back. Part of that is, like, we are doing well on the show right now. So I'm in a position where I have a lot to, like, give. And I. Like, I'm feeling positively about where the show's at.

[Eddie Pepitone]

Should we talk about it?

[Sean Clements]

We try to be modest about this. I think, like, we.

[Eddie Pepitone]

I don't talk about that much.

[Sean Clements]

I can feel myself wanting to, like, make it, like, oh, it's not a big deal. Like, this is a podcast or whatever to, like, make. To not make other People feel small.

[Eddie Pepitone]

Unfortunately, humility is not always a virtue in this business, and you do kind of have to be your own PR team sometimes.

[Sean Clements]

And maybe by telling our story, saying exactly where we're at, we can help people feel insane.

[Gil Ozeri]

I would love to hear it. I would say.

[Eddie Pepitone]

Should we go through some of the recent guests?

[Gil Ozeri]

Sure.

[Eddie Pepitone]

So let's see. Let me look at the.

[Sean Clements]

You don't remember? They're literally our first time walking into the studio. Literally our first time walking in the studio.

[Gil Ozeri]

Yeah.

[Sean Clements]

Bill Macy's here waiting for.

[Eddie Pepitone]

No, Bill Macy. And you call him literally. He just.

[Sean Clements]

For us and one other podcast. He was here today.

[Eddie Pepitone]

Riz Ahmed was just here. Crow.

[Gil Ozeri]

Never heard of him.

[Eddie Pepitone]

Chet Strong in here. We got the Men in Black. We got these kids who I don't know, but they seem to have a following. Sarah Sherman, snl. So it's been a pretty.

[Gil Ozeri]

It's been kind of a murder.

[Sean Clements]

It's been a crazy run.

[Gil Ozeri]

Solid.

[Sean Clements]

Yeah, it's been awesome financially. It's been insane.

[Gil Ozeri]

And aside from. Are you guys enjoying yourselves? Aside from the money stuff, some of

[Eddie Pepitone]

the episodes have been pretty fun.

[Gil Ozeri]

Yeah. Some of them.

[Eddie Pepitone]

Some of them have been a good time. Yeah. And even when it doesn't go

[Hayes Davenport]

well,

[Eddie Pepitone]

I think that it's always nice to reflect on later and say, okay, here's what I learned from that. Here's what I'm gonna do differently next time.

[Gil Ozeri]

Right.

[Eddie Pepitone]

And even employing it to a certain extent with. With you today, Gil, where he said, hey, it's so great to have you back on the show. And I said, hang on a beat, because I think we have sometimes taken the air out of the balloon for people too quickly.

[Gil Ozeri]

Right, right.

[Eddie Pepitone]

And they haven't necessarily felt like there's no anticipation. Had to perform.

[Gil Ozeri]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, I feel the pressure.

[Sean Clements]

I think he knows that hanging out, like.

[Gil Ozeri]

Yeah, no, I feel. No, I feel fine.

[Eddie Pepitone]

I don't know what your show is. I. I love to hear about it. I'm excited to hear about it.

[Narrator/Ad Voice]

Sure.

[Eddie Pepitone]

I don't know if it's more of a hangout show. There's a lot of those. And then there are shows where you actually have to show up and deliver, you know?

[Gil Ozeri]

Yeah.

[Sean Clements]

But there's room for all kinds of shows.

[Eddie Pepitone]

Nick was good on the show. Nick was really good.

[Gil Ozeri]

Yeah, he's good. He's good. Yeah, yeah.

[Eddie Pepitone]

You're working with him.

[Gil Ozeri]

I'm working with him. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Eddie Pepitone]

He stepped up. He was doing some voices.

[Gil Ozeri]

Oh, he was. Yeah, Yeah. I don't do voices, so that's Already a strike.

[Sean Clements]

That's okay.

[Podcast Announcer]

That's okay.

[Sean Clements]

There's like so many different kinds of.

[Gil Ozeri]

I can go.

[Eddie Pepitone]

I don't.

[Sean Clements]

Oh, my God.

[Eddie Pepitone]

Yes.

[Sean Clements]

Yeah. Like, even. Even within this show, there's a really doing kinds of shows.

[Eddie Pepitone]

He did a. Yeah. He did one accent.

[Sean Clements]

Did a little voice. Yeah. Michael didn't really do one. Chech didn't do one.

[Gil Ozeri]

Riz.

[Sean Clements]

Sarah didn't do one. Riz didn't do. But there's so many different. Like, they did different stuff.

[Gil Ozeri]

No, I don't.

[Sean Clements]

They did nothing. I'm not saying they did nothing.

[Gil Ozeri]

No, no. I hope I do something.

[Sean Clements]

Sarah did nothing. Sarah did. Functionally did nothing.

[Eddie Pepitone]

Being fair to the guests that we've

[Hayes Davenport]

had,

[Eddie Pepitone]

it's a tough show to do. You don't always know how to find your way in. Sarah did not.

[Hayes Davenport]

Right.

[Eddie Pepitone]

She never.

[Gil Ozeri]

So you can't feed under. You can't fail on this show.

[Eddie Pepitone]

There was no access point, seemingly through which she was able to understand or participate in the show at all. In my opinion. No, it would have probably been the same show had she not arrived at

[Sean Clements]

the studio at all, tried nothing. But if she had, there was sort of an agreed upon. Actually, it would have been better because

[Eddie Pepitone]

we would have been able to. Just the two of us would have had an interplay where she hadn't checking in constantly.

[Gil Ozeri]

Of, like, if you were here with a potato, it would have been the same.

[Eddie Pepitone]

A potato would be amazing. A potato would be amazing for this show.

[Sean Clements]

What we can do with just a. Like a potato. Like, make it MacGyver style of comedy. Like, we can. We can. We can turn.

[Eddie Pepitone]

Oh, yeah. Mr. Spud or whatever. We come up with a funny name and then like, maybe.

[Gil Ozeri]

I mean, it's already Mr. Spud.

[Eddie Pepitone]

I mean, Mr. Spud. That was the first thought. And, you know, sometimes that is the best thought.

[Sean Clements]

But you. You have a show.

[Gil Ozeri]

I do.

[Sean Clements]

Um, let's get. Let's get into that. Like, I want to hear about your show. I talk about my show literally all the time.

[Eddie Pepitone]

No, we talk about our show to start. And now it's your turn to talk about your show and you have a show.

[Sean Clements]

The show is if you can make

[Eddie Pepitone]

it funny, make it feel.

[Sean Clements]

You say it.

[Gil Ozeri]

This show is called Kevin. It's on Amazon Prime. It's about a rescue shelter.

[Podcast Announcer]

It's a.

[Gil Ozeri]

And I play the manager of the rescue shelter. So it's cats and dogs are in. I think you had Joe.

[Eddie Pepitone]

Wait, what? I thought we were talking about. Oh, this is what I thought you were talking about.

[Gil Ozeri]

I thought you mentioned Kevin had a podcast.

[Sean Clements]

Is that real?

[Eddie Pepitone]

Oh, Kevin's our name of our producer.

[Sean Clements]

We said Kevin to be the name of our producer.

[Gil Ozeri]

Oh, I thought you wanted to talk about Kevin.

[Sean Clements]

No, we were not. We do need to talk about Kevin.

[Interjection Voice 2]

If.

[Sean Clements]

If you have a show named Kevin, then we need to talk about that.

[Gil Ozeri]

If you don't, that is, if you don't.

[Sean Clements]

Gil.

[Gil Ozeri]

Yeah.

[Sean Clements]

Then. Now we need to talk about that.

[Gil Ozeri]

Well, I. I have a. I do have a podcast that just premiered, but I thought. Is it called Kevin?

[Sean Clements]

Is it on Amazon Prime?

[Gil Ozeri]

It is not.

[Sean Clements]

Does it have cats and dogs?

[Gil Ozeri]

No.

[Eddie Pepitone]

Are you the manager of a shelter?

[Gil Ozeri]

I am not.

[Eddie Pepitone]

Okay, so then we do need to talk about.

[Sean Clements]

We need to back up and talk about that.

[Gil Ozeri]

Okay. I've already. I feel like I'm already making mistakes.

[Eddie Pepitone]

I feel like you said. You said. I think you had Joe Wangard on. I just read you the list of guests we'd had on.

[Gil Ozeri]

Yeah.

[Sean Clements]

Was Joe Wenger on that list?

[Gil Ozeri]

I didn't hear it on that list, but I feel like I remember seeing. Is that. Is that not true?

[Sean Clements]

Not only is it not true.

[Narrator/Ad Voice]

Now.

[Interjection Voice 2]

I don't know.

[Sean Clements]

There's.

[Eddie Pepitone]

Now I don't know.

[Sean Clements]

Not a single one of those names could be confused with Joe Wayne. So now we need to talk about that.

[Gil Ozeri]

Yeah.

[Eddie Pepitone]

If he came on, he did even less than Sarah Sherman because I didn't see him.

[Sean Clements]

Yeah, but that's hard to do. But none of them came in here and fibbed. What I'm picking up from you.

[Gil Ozeri]

Yeah.

[Sean Clements]

Is actually two fibs right in a row. I don't think the Kevin show is real.

[Gil Ozeri]

Okay.

[Sean Clements]

I don't think you have that show.

[Gil Ozeri]

Unfortunately, it is a show, and I

[Sean Clements]

know that the Joke Wenger episode of our show is not real.

[Gil Ozeri]

Okay. Well, I thought. I thought.

[Eddie Pepitone]

I thought you're talking about 2014 or something.

[Gil Ozeri]

No, I. I'm. I was pretty sure I saw Joe Way. But if that's maybe confused us with

[Eddie Pepitone]

another podcast, which is hard to do.

[Sean Clements]

That. That. Yeah, one of these. I just don't believe that happened.

[Gil Ozeri]

Okay.

[Sean Clements]

I don't believe that happened.

[Gil Ozeri]

Well, there is a show with Kevin, but I don't want to. We don't have to talk about it at all.

[Sean Clements]

I do want to talk about your podcast, provided.

[Eddie Pepitone]

I'd like to stop. Just before we talk about that, I'd like to talk a little bit about trust.

[Gil Ozeri]

Okay.

[Eddie Pepitone]

Because literally is exactly what I was saying.

[Gil Ozeri]

We don't have to do. We don't have to do this, because

[Eddie Pepitone]

that Is something that once it is broken, Gil, it's not like a lamp that you can just glue back together, is it?

[Gil Ozeri]

It's not like a lamp.

[Eddie Pepitone]

It's gonna be a little harder to reassemble trust once it has been broken through a betrayal. So then you have to earn it. As he's actually generously trying to launch you into the podcast saying, I don't think this Kevin show is real. I know the Joe Wengart episode is real. You're going, well, Kevin is real. And it's like, for what? Like, what are you going to fucking win, man?

[Gil Ozeri]

No, I sound. What are you going to. I can hear it now. I sound defensive.

[Sean Clements]

You've already gotten the listeners excited about a project, right? You got them excited about Kevin. Hell, you got me excited about it.

[Eddie Pepitone]

Jesus Christ, man. The way you're talking about the kitties of puppies

[Sean Clements]

that's on tv.

[Eddie Pepitone]

It was on Prime.

[Sean Clements]

It's on Prime.

[Gil Ozeri]

I'm like, I, I really sold it, didn't I?

[Sean Clements]

Yeah, I know. If it made it all the way onto the platform, it's been vetted.

[Gil Ozeri]

Okay.

[Sean Clements]

By a Cracker Jack.

[Gil Ozeri]

Yeah.

[Sean Clements]

Yes. Well, you know what, the number of,

[Eddie Pepitone]

number of layers that has to go

[Gil Ozeri]

through to make it to my screen. Yeah. I mean, I'm willing to let go and say Kevin is fake. I'm willing to like let go of that and say that's not a real show on Amazon Prime.

[Sean Clements]

That's interesting. And it's not just that it's not called Kevin. It doesn't have. It doesn't exist kitties and puppies in it.

[Gil Ozeri]

I don't.

[Sean Clements]

You're not in it.

[Gil Ozeri]

I'm not in.

[Sean Clements]

It's not a show.

[Gil Ozeri]

It's not.

[Sean Clements]

You heard us talk about Kevin the producer before and gave you an idea.

[Gil Ozeri]

It gave me an idea to try to boast here in this moment.

[Sean Clements]

It could be a show.

[Interjection Voice]

Really?

[Eddie Pepitone]

I mean, if it's not real,

[Sean Clements]

as you were pitching it, I thought like,

[Gil Ozeri]

are you asking me to take it out with you?

[Sean Clements]

It must be a show.

[Eddie Pepitone]

It has to be because we need

[Sean Clements]

to talk about it. We gotta.

[Gil Ozeri]

We gotta talk about it.

[Eddie Pepitone]

We need to talk about Kevin. We need to talk about Kevin as a project for us.

[Sean Clements]

But now, I mean, I'm worried because I want to hear about the podcast.

[Gil Ozeri]

Okay.

[Sean Clements]

You don't feel like the podcast is enough?

[Gil Ozeri]

And I wonder if it was us

[Sean Clements]

talking about, yes, we're doing well here.

[Eddie Pepitone]

I think that made you a little self conscious of. Now I'm going to talk about my podcast. My piss Ant podcast. When these guys are doing so well. Amazing and financially doing.

[Gil Ozeri]

I mean, we don't. Certainly don't have the guests that you guys just have. And so.

[Sean Clements]

And bring that up. That I would make other podcasts feel small when I really was just trying to make them feel inspired.

[Gil Ozeri]

Right.

[Sean Clements]

Because you will kill. You will have those guests. You will have a run.

[Gil Ozeri]

I mean, you guys, though. I've been doing it for, like, 40, 50 years now.

[Eddie Pepitone]

You've done this.

[Gil Ozeri]

How long have you guys been doing this podcast? Long time. Right. Till you got to this point.

[Eddie Pepitone]

You know, the way that I kind of look at it is, like, I only ever have today when I'm doing this episode. There's only this episode.

[Gil Ozeri]

Right.

[Eddie Pepitone]

It doesn't matter where I've been, what I've done.

[Sean Clements]

Right.

[Gil Ozeri]

You don't see all the foul shots,

[Eddie Pepitone]

because from the time the whistle blows to start the podcast to the time that the foghorn or it seems convenient.

[Gil Ozeri]

I mean, you're not looking at all the. All the stuff the podcast was before.

[Sean Clements]

No. You gotta, like, it's work to take every single episode that you do.

[Gil Ozeri]

Yeah.

[Sean Clements]

And just let it drift out. And that's been our mindset for 49 years.

[Gil Ozeri]

Jesus.

[Sean Clements]

So it's like almost as long as I've been doing the show. A little longer than that. That's been our mindset.

[Gil Ozeri]

Right.

[Sean Clements]

49 years.

[Eddie Pepitone]

At first we were hanging on to stuff, but then we haven't said if we want to really have staying power in this for 14 years.

[Sean Clements]

We were. We were kind of hanging on.

[Eddie Pepitone]

What we got to say is. And what we've been saying is, how long you been doing the podcast? One episode. How long have I been doing it? 11 minutes. That's as long as I've been doing it. Because every episode I have to feel.

[Gil Ozeri]

You guys look great for 11 minutes. That's incredible.

[Hayes Davenport]

Yeah.

[Eddie Pepitone]

Yep.

[Sean Clements]

The podcast.

[Eddie Pepitone]

You've got one.

[Gil Ozeri]

I've got one.

[Eddie Pepitone]

That's interesting. I wonder where he got that idea.

[Sean Clements]

Hey, you gotta admit, it's a little

[Eddie Pepitone]

bit similar to what I know.

[Sean Clements]

It is. And sometimes I feel like we say that on a lot of episodes. We say, like, where'd you get that idea?

[Hayes Davenport]

Yeah.

[Sean Clements]

But I am not allowed to remember what we've done on other shows.

[Bethenny Frankel]

No.

[Gil Ozeri]

Right.

[Sean Clements]

So if you hear us doing something again, have a podcast and we say, where they get that idea? Probably from us. I don't know that we did that.

[Eddie Pepitone]

Oh, they've done that joke. I go, news to me.

[Sean Clements]

Yeah. No, it sounds like a funny show. Tell me Tell me more about it.

[Gil Ozeri]

Well, yes. Well, yeah.

[Eddie Pepitone]

The joke itself doesn't work in a way, because when I say, wonder where he got that idea, what am I even referring to?

[Gil Ozeri]

Yeah.

[Sean Clements]

Because I've never done a podcast.

[Gil Ozeri]

I don't know how that makes sense.

[Sean Clements]

I don't know about it.

[Eddie Pepitone]

Yeah.

[Sean Clements]

You only know about this one.

[Gil Ozeri]

I was just trying to challenge me

[Sean Clements]

on doing the same show before. I don't understand.

[Gil Ozeri]

Did I get the idea from you or have you not had a podcast? Well, which is.

[Eddie Pepitone]

That's part of it. Yeah.

[Sean Clements]

We've had this episode. So then yours was before. Before, yeah.

[Eddie Pepitone]

Yours is older because you've done a few episodes.

[Sean Clements]

I don't understand.

[Gil Ozeri]

I'm very confused. Okay, well, I guess I got it before I. Maybe I traveled through time somehow.

[Sean Clements]

And obviously even this episode would take time to develop. Like, we'd have to, like, book it and stuff like that. So maybe in the time between when we decide to book you for this episode, I got your own.

[Eddie Pepitone]

That's interesting. That's interesting.

[Gil Ozeri]

You like that?

[Sean Clements]

It does make sense. It does make sense.

[Eddie Pepitone]

Okay, so it actually works.

[Gil Ozeri]

Yeah, no, it works. I stole it. I did steal it from you.

[Eddie Pepitone]

Okay.

[Gil Ozeri]

I did steal it from.

[Eddie Pepitone]

And what made you decide to steal it?

[Gil Ozeri]

Well, I just.

[Eddie Pepitone]

And what is it?

[Sean Clements]

And what is it?

[Gil Ozeri]

I just saw it. So successful.

[Eddie Pepitone]

Yes.

[Gil Ozeri]

The show, the podcast is called Good Science. I host it with Anthony Atamanick.

[Eddie Pepitone]

When does it air?

[Gil Ozeri]

It airs on Tuesdays. It comes out every Tuesday.

[Interjection Voice]

Tuesday.

[Gil Ozeri]

When? When does.

[Sean Clements]

We don't know.

[Gil Ozeri]

You don't.

[Sean Clements]

You know, we've never done it, too.

[Bethenny Frankel]

Yeah.

[Sean Clements]

We just have to know when it's coming out.

[Gil Ozeri]

You have no idea when this one's coming out.

[Interjection Voice 2]

Yeah.

[Sean Clements]

And by the time it does, we won't know about it anymore.

[Gil Ozeri]

It's almost like 50 first dates.

[Eddie Pepitone]

I'm not hating the sound of Tuesday,

[Sean Clements]

though, as an episode. Tuesday. Tuesday makes sense. Yeah. It's not Monday, you know.

[Kalpen (Host of Hearsay Podcast)]

Right.

[Sean Clements]

But it's still, like.

[Eddie Pepitone]

It's still packed on the week.

[Gil Ozeri]

It's the beginning of the week.

[Sean Clements]

Yeah.

[Gil Ozeri]

It's not the first thing in the week.

[Eddie Pepitone]

You don't want that. Monday is a little bit thirsty, ain't it?

[Gil Ozeri]

Yeah, it's a little Garfield.

[Sean Clements]

It's you and Tony.

[Paramount Plus Announcer]

No.

[Gil Ozeri]

No, it's not.

[Hayes Davenport]

No.

[Eddie Pepitone]

I mean, Garville would not want to release his podcast on a Monday. He's barely surviving on Monday.

[Gil Ozeri]

Yeah, that's what I mean. That's what I mean. That's what I mean.

[Sean Clements]

But if it's coming out for him on Tuesday, then he might have to record it on Monday when you're not going to get the best product out of him. If that's the case.

[Gil Ozeri]

Oh, that's.

[Sean Clements]

If it's releasing on Monday. If nothing else, you know that he was recording on Monday. That could be Garfield's.

[Gil Ozeri]

When is Garfield recording?

[Eddie Pepitone]

You think so? I guess your joke of it's a little Garfield could work.

[Gil Ozeri]

Thank you.

[Eddie Pepitone]

That Monday would be a decent release date for him. It's the only way to ensure.

[Gil Ozeri]

I like that you keep coming around. I like that you keep coming around. I don't know.

[Eddie Pepitone]

You know, I'm either way or learning. I'm either winning or learning.

[Sean Clements]

And what are you guys up to?

[Paramount Plus Announcer]

What?

[Gil Ozeri]

The podcast?

[Sean Clements]

Yeah.

[Gil Ozeri]

Tony plays RFK junior And I play an unfiltered comedian named Kyle Quim. And we talk about. It's like, as if the podcast was released from the desk of the health secretary. So it's like bad or misinformation, Disinformation. Health stuff.

[Sean Clements]

That's funny. That's so crazy. I thought you. I thought. I thought you said. This is so stupid. I honestly thought you just said that it was a show where you're playing or Anthony is playing RFK Jr.

[Gil Ozeri]

Yes, that's correct.

[Sean Clements]

And that it's like, bad stuff from the health secretary and misinformation.

[Gil Ozeri]

Yes.

[Sean Clements]

From him.

[Gil Ozeri]

Yes.

[Sean Clements]

But what is it?

[Gil Ozeri]

What do you mean? What's it called?

[Sean Clements]

But what is the show, really?

[Gil Ozeri]

No, that is the show. That is the show.

[Sean Clements]

That is the show.

[Gil Ozeri]

Yes. Why is that not good? Do you guys have a sh.

[Sean Clements]

Did you know this?

[Eddie Pepitone]

So, no, I mean, as I've said. Oh, I didn't even know we were

[Gil Ozeri]

recording today, But I don't like how quiet you're getting. It's scaring me.

[Eddie Pepitone]

Give us a second.

[Interjection Voice]

Yeah.

[Eddie Pepitone]

So I didn't know that.

[Sean Clements]

We cannot have this in here.

[Eddie Pepitone]

Yeah.

[Sean Clements]

We cannot be having any of the. Like, I just laid out to you what we're building here, right? Like, the guests that we've had on, like, the kind of people that we have in this studio. You are talking about someone with a direct line to the President of the United States. Do you realize that?

[Gil Ozeri]

I mean. Yes.

[Sean Clements]

And talking about him in a.

[Eddie Pepitone]

Making fun of bad misinformation in a making fun of style.

[Gil Ozeri]

Are you guys. Do you guys agree with what he says?

[Eddie Pepitone]

First of all, I don't know. I don't know who has said what. I don't know who said anything. I've only been alive for 17 minutes.

[Podcast Announcer]

Basically.

[Eddie Pepitone]

I Didn't exist before this timer started.

[Gil Ozeri]

Where do you go when the podcast ends?

[Eddie Pepitone]

Oh, I'm not the guy to ask.

[Gil Ozeri]

It's like, sort of like I'm not

[Eddie Pepitone]

the person to answer that question, so don't know what that is either.

[Sean Clements]

Sean and I being dead outside of the confines of this episode keeps us alive. Do you understand what I'm saying?

[Gil Ozeri]

I think so.

[Sean Clements]

If we knew go out into the world taking in no information, putting out no information, just moving through it as if we didn't exist. I don't know and I don't want to. Okay. And so when you bring in here into this space where we are building something. I told you, Bill Macy was. We did an episode with him.

[Eddie Pepitone]

Yeah, yeah.

[Gil Ozeri]

And congrats, by the way, again.

[Sean Clements]

I mean, thank you. But, like, I'm worried about that now. I'm worried about that episode getting pulled.

[Eddie Pepitone]

That's scary to me because I go, oh, great. So now the Bill Macy episode has been shadow banned on all platforms. You know what I mean? And that was.

[Sean Clements]

Come out on a Tuesday call. One call. And this is gone. All this is gone.

[Gil Ozeri]

You think?

[Sean Clements]

And we are doing.

[Gil Ozeri]

I'm sorry.

[Sean Clements]

You think, Robert, finally, finally we have something going here.

[Gil Ozeri]

You think RFK would care about what's

[Sean Clements]

going on about his. Like his.

[Gil Ozeri]

About an episode with Bill Macy, about

[Sean Clements]

his entire life's work being like throwing fucking garbage.

[Eddie Pepitone]

Like, making fun of what? Making fun of him to.

[Gil Ozeri]

You know, I think he's busy.

[Eddie Pepitone]

I just. I feel like our idea for a show and then made it just to make it.

[Gil Ozeri]

How do you know that if you're not. If you just were born.

[Eddie Pepitone]

I'm occupying his mental space.

[Gil Ozeri]

Okay.

[Eddie Pepitone]

You know, I'm not me.

[Gil Ozeri]

I'm going.

[Eddie Pepitone]

Yeah, I'm dropping into RFK for a minute, same way you do on the show. Because I'm not making fun of him. I'm actually trying to understand him and saying, well, what would he be thinking? Probably that's not very nice. And so what you basically have said to me today, Gil, if I could paraphrase, is you said, hi, guys, nice rocket ship. Mind if I get on with a goddamn fucking stick of dynamite and just explode the entire thing right as you're

[Sean Clements]

about to leave the atmosphere, Literally the day of the ipo, you guys are going public.

[Eddie Pepitone]

Yes.

[Sean Clements]

The.

[Eddie Pepitone]

The plan was always to go public.

[Sean Clements]

Wow. Today to be the second trillion dollar

[Eddie Pepitone]

ipo, it was Gill's here. Let's let him talk about his show. It won't be anything damaging, I'm sure. Then we'll announce the ipo and he'll be here for the popping of champagne. When did you think this? This. Probably around minute nine.

[Gil Ozeri]

Oh, okay. So you did think of it during this podcast.

[Eddie Pepitone]

But that was always the plan. That was always.

[Gil Ozeri]

Well, I apologize. I was. I'm not trying to ruin anything. You guys seem like you're doing well.

[Sean Clements]

You too.

[Gil Ozeri]

It's to rfk.

[Sean Clements]

It's him. So he is not mad at us, but instead happy with us, because, like I said, he has a direct line to the president. He can call and say something actually nice about what we're doing.

[Eddie Pepitone]

I have a feeling you also. I have a feeling you also. An apology to both Colin Quinn and Kyle Kinane.

[Gil Ozeri]

Ok.

[Eddie Pepitone]

I feel like when you tell me about this comedian that you're playing that you go, well, this is a completely fictional character. There's no.

[Gil Ozeri]

It's just a name.

[Paramount Plus Announcer]

It's not.

[Gil Ozeri]

It's not based on them.

[Eddie Pepitone]

No, but, Gil, you're telling me that you just came up with these unfiltered comedians with this fake name and that you're not borrowing at all.

[Gil Ozeri]

I'm not insane. It wasn't borrowing at all. But those two. Definitely not.

[Sean Clements]

Who is it, then?

[Gil Ozeri]

No.

[Sean Clements]

Is it one person?

[Gil Ozeri]

It's an amalgamation of sweeties.

[Sean Clements]

Okay, maybe. Maybe two, max.

[Gil Ozeri]

Maybe two. Maybe. Maybe not. Those two.

[Sean Clements]

It's not them.

[Gil Ozeri]

It's not them. It's definitely not you guys, you know?

[Eddie Pepitone]

Okay. Okay.

[Gil Ozeri]

But if you want, as a third fib, I can say that that podcast doesn't exist. So maybe Bobby won't be upset.

[Hayes Davenport]

Oh, yeah.

[Eddie Pepitone]

It's lucky for us.

[Hayes Davenport]

That's.

[Gil Ozeri]

Lucky for us. That's what you want me to do. You want me to go down one

[Eddie Pepitone]

small issue with it, and it's an issue of trust.

[Sean Clements]

Yeah.

[Eddie Pepitone]

Which, as you may be aware. Yeah. Once that's broken, Gil, it's not a lamp.

[Gil Ozeri]

You know, it's definitely not a lamp.

[Eddie Pepitone]

It's not a lamp.

[Gil Ozeri]

Well, how do I repair this? How do I get on? I want to make. I don't want to ruin your stream.

[Kalpen (Host of Hearsay Podcast)]

It's not.

[Eddie Pepitone]

With more words. You know what I mean?

[Gil Ozeri]

No. I feel like I can't. I'm trying to dig out, but I feel like I'm. I'm.

[Sean Clements]

You know, I see a path here.

[Gil Ozeri]

Okay.

[Sean Clements]

And it goes right through and right over Tony.

[Gil Ozeri]

Would you like me to. What does that mean, getting rid of him?

[Sean Clements]

I think you need to say the truth about Tony, what he's about.

[Eddie Pepitone]

I think we need to effectively kill Tony.

[Sean Clements]

Kill Tony?

[Eddie Pepitone]

I do Think we need to kill Tony.

[Sean Clements]

His dominion over you. What he.

[Eddie Pepitone]

I don't like that for you.

[Sean Clements]

What he subjects you to.

[Gil Ozeri]

You're a nice.

[Sean Clements]

Your creative dynamic.

[Gil Ozeri]

I feel like I need to throw him under the bus. Is that what you're asking me to do?

[Eddie Pepitone]

Gil, this isn't you. This being mean to the president's friend. That's not you.

[Gil Ozeri]

I've known you a long time. Yeah, no, you're right. I'm. I try to be as sweet as possible.

[Eddie Pepitone]

Jesus Christ. You stayed on my couch. You brought over State of Play on dvd.

[Gil Ozeri]

Do you remember that?

[Hayes Davenport]

You know what I mean?

[Eddie Pepitone]

You were like, let's watch State of Play.

[Gil Ozeri]

That's right.

[Eddie Pepitone]

Right.

[Gil Ozeri]

You're two beautiful cats.

[Eddie Pepitone]

I mean, that was. They're dead.

[Gil Ozeri]

Okay, well, that's me digging a hole again. I apologize for bringing that up.

[Eddie Pepitone]

Of course, I'm not aware of that during this recording.

[Sean Clements]

To me, it's. I'm sorry, it's just another example of something that you loved at one point.

[Paramount Plus Announcer]

Well, I'm.

[Gil Ozeri]

Okay.

[Sean Clements]

You can kill.

[Gil Ozeri]

Kill your darlings. I will do that for you if you guys want. Tony, can I talk to camera?

[Sean Clements]

Yeah, maybe talk to. So if it's helpful, like, sure. Talk to this gentleman here.

[Gil Ozeri]

Okay.

[Sean Clements]

Do you know who Tony Atamanic is? Not before this episode. Okay. Not before this episode. Okay, so this is our first episode. So this is someone who can really, like, embody.

[Eddie Pepitone]

He's like me.

[Sean Clements]

Yeah.

[Gil Ozeri]

Yeah. Just born.

[Eddie Pepitone]

Yeah. Before this episode, I didn't know anything about any of these people.

[Gil Ozeri]

So weird how you knew my name when I came in here.

[Kalpen (Host of Hearsay Podcast)]

Someone told us.

[Gil Ozeri]

Okay.

[Sean Clements]

Yeah. Someone told us right before you went,

[Gil Ozeri]

all right, here I go. Tony, I don't think what you're doing is right.

[Sean Clements]

Oh, sorry. Oh, no, this is not. This is not the device that I'm setting. Oh, you wanted to work. You are speaking to our audience.

[Gil Ozeri]

Okay.

[Sean Clements]

Are the proxies sitting right here.

[Gil Ozeri]

Okay.

[Sean Clements]

And telling the truth about Tony and his dominion over you.

[Gil Ozeri]

Okay. Everyone out there. Tony has control over me.

[Sean Clements]

Yeah.

[Gil Ozeri]

He forces me to do things I don't want to do.

[Sean Clements]

Smell different stuff.

[Gil Ozeri]

Smell different things, taste different things. Touch different things. He's done it for a while now. It's sort of a grooming thing.

[Eddie Pepitone]

Kissing things.

[Gil Ozeri]

Kissing things. Touching, kissing.

[Sean Clements]

Tasting.

[Gil Ozeri]

Tasting. Licking. And I don't want to do it anymore. And he forces me to do it so that he can criticize the establishment.

[Eddie Pepitone]

Not allowed to wear shoes around.

[Gil Ozeri]

I'm not allowed to wear shoes around the house. I have to go barefoot because he Likes to see my feet. He makes me cook for him with my crack out. He makes me.

[Eddie Pepitone]

I didn't know that part.

[Gil Ozeri]

Why would you. It's the first time you've been alive.

[Sean Clements]

But some stuff you could do. Pick up on, but like.

[Gil Ozeri]

Yeah, you can sense.

[Eddie Pepitone]

You didn't know that part.

[Gil Ozeri]

Yeah, well, he likes to see a little. He likes to see the start of something. You know what I mean?

[Sean Clements]

So just a little bit.

[Gil Ozeri]

Just a little bit. Not the whole thing. Okay.

[Sean Clements]

That doesn't sound that bad. Yeah.

[Gil Ozeri]

And then I. I feel like I don't want to say these things about Bob.

[Sean Clements]

What does he like to eat?

[Eddie Pepitone]

Was he, like, cooking for him? What are you making?

[Gil Ozeri]

Bacon.

[Eddie Pepitone]

Pierogies.

[Gil Ozeri]

Pierogies and bacon. He likes Ukrainian and he likes even

[Eddie Pepitone]

a stop clock deli twice a day

[Gil Ozeri]

and he likes a diner. What's that?

[Eddie Pepitone]

Even a stop clock's right. Twice a day. I'm not gonna fault the guy's dietary. I mean, bacon and pierogi sounds like a pretty. That was a nice.

[Gil Ozeri]

Pretty tasty.

[Sean Clements]

Yeah. And the Ukrainian thing is like. What's that about? Like, it's a comment on something. Like, what's the deal there?

[Gil Ozeri]

I think he just likes pierogies. Oh, maybe you think it's a comment about.

[Sean Clements]

You said it's. No, it might be political.

[Gil Ozeri]

It might be political.

[Sean Clements]

I mean, knowing this guy. I mean, yeah, everything seems to be political with this.

[Gil Ozeri]

Are you guys aware of what's happening over there? Because I know you were just. You just.

[Eddie Pepitone]

Well, it is around the time in the podcast where I do have a hard reset around minute 28. I forget what the first 14 minutes of the podcast where I do. I do maintain some knowledge from the middle chunk.

[Gil Ozeri]

Whatever's. Yeah, whatever you feel is right or

[Eddie Pepitone]

it just, you know, it's a. Yeah, I. I don't go through a selection process.

[Gil Ozeri]

Okay.

[Eddie Pepitone]

It's like things get filtered out. Some things stay. Some things.

[Gil Ozeri]

I wish I could do this. I mean, I wish I could have this memory.

[Sean Clements]

I'm telling you, you don't. Yeah.

[Eddie Pepitone]

It is a curse, Gil. Okay. Does it make for a good podcast? The numbers don't lie.

[Sean Clements]

Yeah, it's pretty good. You know, but then when you do one that's really special, when you get that episode.

[Hayes Davenport]

Oh, please.

[Sean Clements]

Can I just have this, please?

[Gil Ozeri]

This one?

[Eddie Pepitone]

Just this one.

[Sean Clements]

No.

[Gil Ozeri]

Does it ever.

[Sean Clements]

Those are the ones that you really have to.

[Gil Ozeri]

What. Can I ask what you're giving up?

[Sean Clements]

Push under the surface of the water.

[Gil Ozeri]

What are you giving up? When is it bad? When does it Hurt you.

[Eddie Pepitone]

Well Hayes just.

[Sean Clements]

I, I did that. Yeah. That was sort of the last idea that I was laying out that like when you have a really special episode it's kind of an answer to the question like what are you giving up? Right. You're giving up like a memory that's like positive.

[Eddie Pepitone]

Yeah. You were saying you interrupted him and said that's when it's worth it. But was saying was like that's actually the hardest part.

[Sean Clements]

The hardest part. Those are the ones that you really have to listen.

[Eddie Pepitone]

I guess it's worth it.

[Gil Ozeri]

No, I, I, I, I was confused. I was listening.

[Sean Clements]

But how. I guess I'm wondering how. I was just saying like you it's a good thing that you have to separate yourself from. And you thought that was good?

[Gil Ozeri]

No, I, I just, I was confused. I thought you were talking about that. It's it, it's all worth like what you're giving up is like that you.

[Sean Clements]

I think we have to put this on Tony as well somehow that you've even part of just like a social experiment where like yeah. Everything is inverted. He has, he has some linguistically neuro progressed your mind.

[Narrator/Ad Voice]

Yeah.

[Eddie Pepitone]

That you are unable to take.

[Gil Ozeri]

I feel like I know I don't know what's happening. I feel like I'm babbling and lying.

[Eddie Pepitone]

Which is a challenge for us because obviously we, we often work with guests. We told you how good Nick did on the show with a lot of people who they do know what's happening.

[Gil Ozeri]

I could try doing a voice like Nick.

[Eddie Pepitone]

I'm worried that the voice would be offensive to someone very powerful. Based on the history that you have

[Gil Ozeri]

of the Bobby thing. Yeah.

[Eddie Pepitone]

Yeah.

[Interjection Voice 2]

So.

[Sean Clements]

And that will like we'll figure out who the comedian is that you have it out for. For some reason in this business.

[Gil Ozeri]

Not anyone specific.

[Sean Clements]

You know it's like the business is not doing amazing right now.

[Gil Ozeri]

Yeah.

[Sean Clements]

Like I don't think an attitude.

[Gil Ozeri]

Do you think I'm piling on?

[Sean Clements]

I don't think it's production is in

[Eddie Pepitone]

a state of contraction and I'm not necessarily someone who's going to kick the town while it's down a circular. Let's attack it.

[Sean Clements]

It seems like a good idea to you. Ye firing squad. But it's actually a great way to get your head blown off.

[Gil Ozeri]

Yeah.

[Sean Clements]

Because they all have. It's a squad. Like they also have guns.

[Gil Ozeri]

Are you warning. Are you telling me to be careful?

[Sean Clements]

I'm literally describing a circular firing squad where everyone is standing in a circle and they're firing into the Circle sounds kind of fun for just you.

[Eddie Pepitone]

Of course it sounds fun when you first start it, but it's incredibly dangerous. Is there another way to explain it to him? And. And now I've done too, you know.

[Gil Ozeri]

Okay.

[Sean Clements]

Yeah, like, that's your. The person that you're trying.

[Gil Ozeri]

No, it's not. It's definitely not. David, tell.

[Sean Clements]

Okay.

[Gil Ozeri]

Love, Dave. So funny.

[Sean Clements]

Okay, well, now it's narrowed down to, like, such a small.

[Eddie Pepitone]

And now whenever we find out who it is, it's like.

[Sean Clements]

I mean, I feel like now it just definitely.

[Eddie Pepitone]

It's not just maybe the.

[Sean Clements]

If it's not conquering.

[Eddie Pepitone]

He's saying they're not funny.

[Sean Clements]

Like, yes.

[Eddie Pepitone]

Like, he's going and they're not funny.

[Gil Ozeri]

I mean, that's only three. There's plenty of more comedians out there.

[Sean Clements]

But I mean, can you guys, like. I wouldn't say there's. We're in a plenty, I mean, situation.

[Gil Ozeri]

Name someone who's like, under, you know, I don't know. Can you name anyone who's like, okay,

[Sean Clements]

so now these guys are like, washed up. No, Nobody. They are old. Washed up hats.

[Eddie Pepitone]

You know when you see an old soldier. I never said that he's old for a reason.

[Gil Ozeri]

He's experienced. I just.

[Eddie Pepitone]

He's a survivor.

[Gil Ozeri]

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[Sean Clements]

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[Eddie Pepitone]

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[Sean Clements]

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[Gil Ozeri]

Price Void in Florida Hollywood Handbook who do you guys like? Who do you guys like to listen to?

[Eddie Pepitone]

Me personally, I don't know.

[Sean Clements]

Nice thing about forgetting every episode of your podcast as soon as it's over is you can listen to it. Just as a fan.

[Eddie Pepitone]

I'm a huge fan of this show, and I can't wait to hear this episode. Yeah. Because this is gonna be a really cool.

[Gil Ozeri]

Are you able to experience the episode outside? Do you know what's happening on the outside of this podcast? Do you have any memories of it at all?

[Eddie Pepitone]

Drips and drabs, Trips and drabs.

[Gil Ozeri]

Like m.

[Eddie Pepitone]

A ray of light, a

[Gil Ozeri]

flower petal, just so you like. Images will flash.

[Eddie Pepitone]

Syrup on a fresh everything bagel.

[Hayes Davenport]

Whoa.

[Gil Ozeri]

That's weird. Hot. Syrup on an everything bagel.

[Sean Clements]

Fresh everything bagel.

[Gil Ozeri]

Yeah. I did make. That's. Why would you put syrup on. Why do you think your Audi is putting syrup on an everything bagel?

[Eddie Pepitone]

And for the listeners who just are hearing this, I'm pointing a gill. Like, what the fuck is this guy talking about? You know, he doesn't have an answer. And Hayes is looking back at me and he's going, your guess is as good as mine, hombre.

[Hayes Davenport]

So.

[Sean Clements]

So, I mean, Sean writes for severance. I don't know if you know this about.

[Gil Ozeri]

I did, Sean.

[Sean Clements]

I did, But I was trying to relate the mindset.

[Gil Ozeri]

Yeah.

[Sean Clements]

Of not knowing what's happening in or outside the room that you're in also applies to severance.

[Gil Ozeri]

Right.

[Sean Clements]

So he doesn't know about that right now.

[Gil Ozeri]

Oh, okay.

[Sean Clements]

So when you say. What do you say? Audi? That's why he does that little gesture at you saying he's like, what's going on? And can I have some. You know.

[Gil Ozeri]

Right. I'm not on anything. I'm just saying things he doesn't know about me. I apologize, because he's not.

[Sean Clements]

In that case, I don't want in that video right now.

[Gil Ozeri]

Where do you think I came from?

[Eddie Pepitone]

What do you mean? I hate to answer a question with a question.

[Gil Ozeri]

What's outside that door?

[Eddie Pepitone]

This one? Another door.

[Gil Ozeri]

Another door.

[Sean Clements]

Yeah.

[Podcast Announcer]

Open it up.

[Sean Clements]

Check it out.

[Gil Ozeri]

Oh, my God. Okay, well, that's just for sound. That's not like. That's not like some Alice in Wonderland freaky shit that you're doing. That's just. You know what I mean? That's just for sound.

[Sean Clements]

That's for sound.

[Eddie Pepitone]

You think?

[Gil Ozeri]

Yeah.

[Sean Clements]

That's two doors.

[Gil Ozeri]

Yeah.

[Eddie Pepitone]

Sound of the door.

[Gil Ozeri]

Well, we're in a recording booth studio.

[Sean Clements]

They all have two doors.

[Gil Ozeri]

A lot of them do.

[Sean Clements]

Okay.

[Kalpen (Host of Hearsay Podcast)]

Wow.

[Sean Clements]

I don't know.

[Eddie Pepitone]

You don't know anything about. Except the new.

[Sean Clements]

Every episode, don't you?

[Eddie Pepitone]

I mean, we honestly learn something new.

[Gil Ozeri]

I mean, you learn everything Every episode.

[Eddie Pepitone]

We try to. Yeah, we try to. It depends. It depends on whether the guest is acting in good faith because it's very difficult to learn when you are being given a bunch of misinformation.

[Gil Ozeri]

Yeah, you don't trust me as you've

[Eddie Pepitone]

accused RFK of delivering.

[Gil Ozeri]

I guess I've been fibbing too.

[Eddie Pepitone]

And yet there's the stench of hypocrisy fills the room.

[Sean Clements]

And so the case you're making is that your creative collaborators like so called great crime is that he likes you to occasionally make pierogies and bacon.

[Eddie Pepitone]

Sounds pretty good.

[Sean Clements]

Not like a. Not an elaborate meal for him.

[Eddie Pepitone]

It's not that demanding. Are they frozen or are you making the dough and all that from scratch?

[Gil Ozeri]

They're frozen. Everything's frozen.

[Sean Clements]

I mean, it's one pan.

[Gil Ozeri]

It's not a lot, I guess, but he does other. I said the crack thing.

[Sean Clements]

Showing a little bit of crack. And how is he going to an

[Gil Ozeri]

office and say, show me a little bit of crack?

[Eddie Pepitone]

Doesn't sound like you're in an office. It sounds like you're at his house. My ride's here.

[Sean Clements]

How is he negotiating? Like, like more or less like how do you like pull it up and pull it down a little?

[Gil Ozeri]

He calls it a peak. Okay, so he wants to see a peak.

[Sean Clements]

Okay. And so is he pulling it down or you then know what that means?

[Gil Ozeri]

I know what it means. At this point, Yeah.

[Sean Clements]

I think you might actually be misunderstanding.

[Gil Ozeri]

Why? Where are you getting that? I misunderstand. What am I misunderstanding?

[Sean Clements]

I mean, it seems like you have just assumed that that means that he wants to see a little more of your butt crack.

[Gil Ozeri]

Well, I feel like, I don't think

[Sean Clements]

I would have so many different ones if I heard that. If I heard that, I wouldn't like reach back and like, honestly, if I pull my shorts down, if I said

[Eddie Pepitone]

the Hayes, give me a peek and he turned around and showed me some of his butt crack, I would be like, okay, never mind. So he would never find out what I meant. Because at that point, what could it possibly mean? Going to engage.

[Gil Ozeri]

What could it possibly mean to say, show me a peek?

[Eddie Pepitone]

Well, I need more context. I need more context.

[Gil Ozeri]

A present.

[Sean Clements]

The present I give to him after the show.

[Gil Ozeri]

Well, he's not saying, don't do it.

[Eddie Pepitone]

Let me peek. Let me feel how heavy the box is.

[Sean Clements]

Eh, yeah.

[Eddie Pepitone]

And then he's showing at the present.

[Gil Ozeri]

You think I'm the one instigating, showing crack I.

[Eddie Pepitone]

The way you've described it? You are. I mean, you're Literally.

[Sean Clements]

Do you not give him a present after you do it?

[Gil Ozeri]

No, I mean, the crack is the present.

[Eddie Pepitone]

Well, no wonder he's being so destructive on the show. He's acting out.

[Gil Ozeri]

I guess so.

[Eddie Pepitone]

And the guy is screaming for some kind of show of love.

[Sean Clements]

All right, when do you give him a presentation?

[Gil Ozeri]

That is the present.

[Sean Clements]

You showing a little bit of your butt crack is the present.

[Gil Ozeri]

I feel like that's.

[Eddie Pepitone]

My God. Mr. Egomania.

[Sean Clements]

I know.

[Eddie Pepitone]

Oh, my God.

[Gil Ozeri]

You know what?

[Eddie Pepitone]

My butt crack is a good enough present. Hey.

[Sean Clements]

In just a little bit.

[Eddie Pepitone]

Anything else?

[Narrator/Ad Voice]

Well, it's.

[Sean Clements]

And just a tiny bit of that.

[Gil Ozeri]

I happen to think my crack is pretty.

[Eddie Pepitone]

Oh, your poor wife. That's the present.

[Gil Ozeri]

I can.

[Eddie Pepitone]

These male cheeks back. Back there. Oh, no.

[Gil Ozeri]

I, I, I. All right, you know what? I am willing to concede that it's not a great present, and I apologize. Maybe it is me giving off bad vibes to Tony.

[Eddie Pepitone]

Have I explained trust yet in this episode?

[Sean Clements]

Apparently not.

[Gil Ozeri]

Do you remember it or not?

[Sean Clements]

Apparently.

[Eddie Pepitone]

We're going to need to go over this.

[Gil Ozeri]

Did you have another reset, Gil?

[Eddie Pepitone]

Trust, once broken, it's not a lamp, right?

[Narrator/Ad Voice]

Yeah.

[Sean Clements]

It's not a lamp.

[Gil Ozeri]

No.

[Eddie Pepitone]

Can't just glue it back together, you know, screw a new light bulb into it. It's going to take a lot more work.

[Gil Ozeri]

Which part of the lamp are you imagining is broken?

[Eddie Pepitone]

The light bulb. And the other part that you could

[Sean Clements]

glue together, it's a new light bulb.

[Hayes Davenport]

Yeah.

[Sean Clements]

So the base. The light bulb broke, but not the base. But that we're not putting the light bulb back together. The base is intact.

[Gil Ozeri]

Okay.

[Sean Clements]

And it's been broken before, so it breaks on the kind of the same line, same area every time.

[Gil Ozeri]

Okay.

[Eddie Pepitone]

Yeah.

[Gil Ozeri]

Sorry.

[Kalpen (Host of Hearsay Podcast)]

And it's nobody's fault.

[Eddie Pepitone]

You know what I mean? No need to play the blame game here. Lamps break sometimes.

[Gil Ozeri]

Yeah.

[Eddie Pepitone]

Trust is a little different. It's a little different than the lamp.

[Gil Ozeri]

How do you repair.

[Eddie Pepitone]

Don't always break in the same place. And there's no light bulb in it.

[Narrator/Ad Voice]

It.

[Gil Ozeri]

Sure.

[Eddie Pepitone]

Although a light bulb can represent an idea, sometimes it can.

[Gil Ozeri]

Yeah.

[Eddie Pepitone]

And trust is an idea.

[Sean Clements]

I never get that idea.

[Eddie Pepitone]

Well, the podcast was called Good Science.

[Narrator/Ad Voice]

Yeah.

[Gil Ozeri]

Can I ask you a question, by the way?

[Eddie Pepitone]

Yeah, anything. I'm an open book.

[Gil Ozeri]

What does a lamp look like?

[Eddie Pepitone]

You talking to me?

[Sean Clements]

Yeah. So he did say that. He did ask if he could ask you a question before. Right. Before he said the question.

[Gil Ozeri]

Did you hear? Yeah. I feel like you have and have a reset.

[Kalpen (Host of Hearsay Podcast)]

Yeah.

[Sean Clements]

And you did agree to answer the question. So here's. Let me make this clear. The question he just asked, what does the lamp look like? That was the question that he was asking you if he could ask.

[Gil Ozeri]

No, no, I wasn't asking it.

[Sean Clements]

So when you said yes, I believe

[Eddie Pepitone]

I said, I'm an open look.

[Sean Clements]

So that, to me, did sound like a yes. But you. It sounds like were not responding to him asking me to ask you a question. I don't even know you would just listen to him. He never actually agreed to respond. He.

[Gil Ozeri]

He.

[Eddie Pepitone]

I'm just mentioning that I'm an open book.

[Sean Clements]

He was sharing.

[Eddie Pepitone]

Interesting.

[Sean Clements]

He was sharing something with you.

[Gil Ozeri]

Can I. All right.

[Eddie Pepitone]

It seems relevant.

[Gil Ozeri]

We're on a podcast. Sean, what does a lamp look like?

[Sean Clements]

Like, may also help to ask what he thinks an open book looks like.

[Gil Ozeri]

What does an open book look like?

[Sean Clements]

It doesn't to him necessarily mean something that provides information freely.

[Eddie Pepitone]

Well, a lamp could look like just about anything, couldn't it?

[Narrator/Ad Voice]

Sure.

[Eddie Pepitone]

Be specific, I mean, I guess. Gil, what does a lamp look like?

[Gil Ozeri]

You're just throwing it back at me.

[Eddie Pepitone]

Oh, no, fair's fair. What's good for the goose is good for the gander. I mean, here I am. I said it could look like anything.

[Sean Clements]

I'm starting to. I'm honestly on Tony's side at this point. You are that, like, okay, this is your podcasting style, is you just, like, lay down a question and, like, and that's it.

[Eddie Pepitone]

I feel like you're unwilling.

[Gil Ozeri]

That's what podcasting is, is. It's questions and answers. What does a. Can you tell me what a lamp looks like?

[Sean Clements]

A woman's leg.

[Hayes Davenport]

Yeah.

[Gil Ozeri]

Okay. There are lamps that look like a woman's leg in some, like, 80s movies. Like stockings. That's so. That's okay.

[Eddie Pepitone]

A heavy breast.

[Gil Ozeri]

I've never seen that before. A heavy breast. What is that? What does that even mean? What is a heavy breast?

[Eddie Pepitone]

I mean, what do they go for?

[Sean Clements]

I feel even more sorry for your wife that.

[Gil Ozeri]

How heavy are you talking?

[Eddie Pepitone]

I'm at the butcher shop. I'm going. Four people. I guess

[Gil Ozeri]

more people of weight. What cut? What cut?

[Eddie Pepitone]

I'm getting chicken breasts for four people.

[Gil Ozeri]

So, like, okay, fine. I guess.

[Eddie Pepitone]

Sure that's not allowed?

[Gil Ozeri]

No, it's allowed.

[Eddie Pepitone]

You tell me there's something bad in it because you're rfk.

[Sean Clements]

Do we think Kyle could live on his own on a show somewhere? Is there a Kyle vehicle?

[Gil Ozeri]

Maybe.

[Sean Clements]

Possibly. Maybe only one seat.

[Gil Ozeri]

Well, on the podcast, part of the lore is that Kyle has his own podcast called Shitheads.

[Sean Clements]

Did we just do that podcast and make your podcast be the lore. And so now he's on.

[Gil Ozeri]

You think I just came up with that.

[Sean Clements]

Make that the real podcast.

[Eddie Pepitone]

Oh, that's the podcast.

[Sean Clements]

Please, please, please, please, please. I don't think this is.

[Gil Ozeri]

I'm confused again. Explain it to me.

[Sean Clements]

You said that you have a real podcast, and then one that's just Kyle. That's lore. I'm saying let's make the just Kyle podcast. The real podcast.

[Interjection Voice]

Actual.

[Kalpen (Host of Hearsay Podcast)]

Actual.

[Sean Clements]

And. Oh.

[Gil Ozeri]

So no Bobby.

[Sean Clements]

No Bobby, that's what you're saying. That becomes lore, doesn't that?

[Eddie Pepitone]

That could be his lore.

[Gil Ozeri]

Sure.

[Eddie Pepitone]

Just to say it, I think a lamp could also look like buttocks or a penis.

[Gil Ozeri]

So just any. I don't know. First of all, it could look like anything. Sure, you're right, technically. But I wanted to know what like, a standard lamp is. And you're just.

[Sean Clements]

That's his thing.

[Gil Ozeri]

No, you're just like naming body parts to show off.

[Sean Clements]

Then show that now the part.

[Eddie Pepitone]

I got the idea.

[Sean Clements]

Yes. Now supply goes up, so demand goes down. You know what I mean? If every lamp looks like a buttocks, then, like, what do you have to offer?

[Gil Ozeri]

I guess nothing.

[Sean Clements]

You know, that's your.

[Gil Ozeri]

I guess nothing. No, I.

[Sean Clements]

Your present. You give your present people like, oh, thanks. Like, they.

[Gil Ozeri]

I've already seen.

[Sean Clements]

They have that already.

[Gil Ozeri]

Yeah, they have that already. Well, I guess I could talk to Tony and tell him, hey, it's not gonna work out.

[Sean Clements]

Not my business. What? You tell him the.

[Eddie Pepitone]

I'm not gonna be a part of that conversation. I am going to be a part of participating financially in the Kyle show, which I think could actually be a nice little piece of business podcast.

[Gil Ozeri]

What are you willing to. What are we talking about here? How much money?

[Eddie Pepitone]

I'm willing to let you walk out of here with both your legs.

[Sean Clements]

Bye.

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