Joe Lo Truglio, Our Close Friend

Summary

Hollywood Handbook — "Joe Lo Truglio, Our Close Friend" (July 7, 2026)

Podcast: Hollywood Handbook
Host: iHeartPodcasts
Guests: Joe Lo Truglio, Casey, Sean, and Richie
Theme: A comedic, meta reunion with frequent guest Joe Lo Truglio, riffing on failed bits, fake project pitches, acting philosophies, and the absurdities of showbiz.

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Episode Overview

This episode brings back Joe Lo Truglio—a member of the unofficial "11 Timers Club" on Hollywood Handbook—for a raucous, freewheeling conversation with hosts Sean and Casey, joined by staffer Richie. The crew reminisces about past appearances, pokes fun at failed bits, and mines Joe's new film (the fictional "Gail Daughtry and the Celebrity Sex Pass") for comedy, all while spiraling through running jokes, faux life hacks, and Hollywood satire.

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Key Discussion Points & Segments

1. The Ongoing "Jholo" Bit and Failed Appearances

Timestamps: 00:35–03:53

• The hosts exasperatedly joke about Joe’s repeated visits, bemoaning their inability to get a "releasable" episode.
• The "Jholo" mispronunciation gag hangs over the intro. Joe, mock-aggrieved, insists, “First of all, you know how much I hate Jho Low. I mean, it’s a very simple. It’s Joe. Who do you know that’s named Jholo?” (01:00)
• Memories include fabricating a Brooklyn Nine-Nine spinoff (“Brooklyn 100”) immediately after the show wrapped—“In hindsight, I think doing it two days after our show officially ended wasn't great timing on my part.” (02:10)

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2. The Hermit Crab "Charity"

Timestamps: 03:04–05:01

• A recurring joke about raising $2,700 for the show, which allegedly went to "a good charity… for hermit crabs."
• Joe dryly admits, “We didn’t save a lot of those guys.” (04:16)
• The group tries to calculate the cost per crab, with Sean quipping, “So what are we working with, like, three, five hundred dollars? A hermit crab?” (04:35)

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3. Revisiting Past Stunts: Randy Johnson, Bird Suits, and Freddy Krueger

Timestamps: 05:42–08:20

• The hosts recall a surreal live show where Joe dressed as a bird and (fictional) baseball legend Randy Johnson “nailed” him with a pitch—a callback to Johnson’s infamous incident killing a bird with a fastball.
• Joe: “I would dress up as a bird. Exact. And I'd kind of hustle across the stage and he...he'd just...he'd be me with the ball.” (06:04)
• A tangent about long-armed Freddy Krueger quickly becomes a comedic comfort zone. “Some themes are so universal…the brain just seeks purchase on these ideas. They're not comforting…but they're fascinating...” (Sean, 07:20)

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4. Joe's Recurring Dream

Timestamps: 07:51–09:08

• Joe details a childhood nightmare about being rushed toward a “man in the moon with crater fingers”—which devolves into the hosts dissecting dream logic and taking playful jabs.

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5. Life Hacks and the Home Depot Scam

Timestamps: 11:15–14:46

• Joe jokingly recounts “life hacks” on returning items to Home Depot (even without a receipt) and hollowing out sandwich centers to facilitate fraud.
• Notable exchange:
  • Sean: “Home Depot will let you make a return without a receipt…so you’ll go in there and just boost every which way you boost.” (12:27)
  • Joe describes using mulch or crumpled paper to keep hollowed burgers heavy enough for returns.

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6. Richie Joins & The Power of Cinema

Timestamps: 15:21–18:18

• Richie, a new staffer described as a “movie holic,” is introduced as a possible “new spoke” to refresh the group dynamic.
• Joe: “Now that I am seeing you, I’m seeing that soul behind that. I’m looking through that window…” (18:14)
• The group lightly debates seafaring films, leading to comedic name mangling (“Steve Swizo”).

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7. Promoting Joe’s Movie (and the Four-Question Contract)

Timestamps: 18:38–24:44

• Joe explains his (fake) new film, “Gail Daughtry and the Celebrity Sex Pass.”
• The hosts riff on the convoluted title, revenge plot (Jon Hamm as the “sex pass” target), and inevitable contractual requirements for his characters to “get it in.”
• Joe’s “four-question” system for accepting roles: Is it scary? Will I make money? Will it be fun? Will I get sick?
  • “I don't kind of differentiate between, you know, leprosy and like, you know, a common cold. One of the two is fine.” (Joe, 24:36)
• Notable: The "getting sick" part is played for escalating absurdity, as is payment—“He was paid a fair rate…but he didn’t make the money.” (Sean, 24:16)

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8. Home Depot Receipts: Source of All Hollywood Ideas

Timestamps: 26:38–27:58

• The hosts joke about using Home Depot receipts as literal inspiration for movies.
• “People do say, like, God, you work in Hollywood…Where do you get all your crazy ideas? They don't understand…when you have a mind like ours, the ideas are right there on your Home Depot receipt all day.” (Sean, 26:50)
• Joe: “You have to have an open mind. All these riders, magic parachutes—they only function when open.” (27:15)

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9. Zoo Adventures & “Madagascar” Group Chat

Timestamps: 28:02–29:59

• The hosts propose “living your life” as a way to break writer’s block—combining zoo adventures with hardware store visits.
• Joe riffs about being in group chats with the “Madagascar” animal crew, eventually removing himself (“I removed myself from the con. I had to…” 29:17)
• Multiple layers of absurdity: animals unable to text, “success going to their long neck.”

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10. Childhood Nostalgia: Roadrunner vs. Sonic, and The “Old Ways”

Timestamps: 36:32–39:16

• Who’s faster: Sonic the Hedgehog or the Roadrunner? The consensus is Roadrunner, with Joe signaling “I’m old school.”
• The hosts remember unstructured, unsupervised childhoods (“We used to go outside…drink out of the hose…Literally, raised by TV.” 37:06-38:01)
• Bit characters from Back to the Future are humorously misnamed: “Martin the Fly,” “Mr. Brown,” “Biv.”

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11. Acting Can Save the World

Timestamps: 42:00–44:20

• The conversation pivots to acting’s “true power” and disregard compared to science.
• Sean: “The money that’s been going into science…has yet to reap any kind of dividend… Meanwhile, we’ve basically not supported the arts at all in this country. And some of that acting that’s being done…I think has been much more impactful.” (43:01)
• Joe: “It can. It’s maybe the most powerful art form.” (43:00)

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12. Favorite Part of the Movie, Fight Scene, Acting Approach

Timestamps: 40:02–42:45

• Joe’s favorite part of “Gail Daughtry”—“It was meeting the Fonz. It was meeting…Henry Winkler.” (40:41)
• Second favorite: a choreographed fight scene, discussed as both real and metaphorical combat—“Every scene has a winner and a loser.” (Sean, 41:13)
• Joe: “Whether it’s mentally, physically…I want to make sure I succeed and I’m good in this.” (41:17)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Casey (on their multiple attempts): “How many times have we tried to get a releasable episode out of you?” (00:56)
• Sean (on charity): “Nothing to sneeze at.” (03:15)
• Joe (on the hermit crab charity): “It went to a good charity for, say, the Herm crabs, because a lot of them…leave the shell…they died.” (03:23)
• Sean (on life hacks): “Home Depot will let you make a return without a receipt…so you’ll go in there and just boost every which way you boost.” (12:27)
• Joe (explaining contractual movie requirements): “There’s four questions: Is it scary? Am I gonna make money? Is it gonna be fun? Will I get sick?” (21:10)
• Sean (on acting’s impact): “Some of that acting that’s being done, I think has been much more impactful (than science).” (43:09)
• Joe (about acting): “It can. It’s maybe the most powerful art form.” (43:00)
• Sean (on inspiration): “When you have a mind like ours, the ideas are right there on your Home Depot receipt all day.” (26:50)

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Humor, Structure, and Tone

• The conversation is rapid, tangential, and highly self-referential—layering callbacks to previous bits, dry meta-commentary, and unbridled absurdity.
• Satirical takes on Hollywood, acting, and the art-making process persist throughout, blending fake pitches and exaggerated personal quirks.
• The show’s signature “inside baseball” energy is on full display: jokes about contract clauses for “getting it in,” feigned confusion about movie titles/plots, and improv-style riffs on mundane topics.

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Structured Highlights & Timestamps

• 00:35 — Opening banter, “Jholo” bit, Brooklyn 100 origins
• 03:10 — Hermit crab charity and show fundraising
• 05:52 — Randy Johnson/bird suit stage show memory
• 07:51 — Joe's recurring dream: Man in the Moon with crater fingers
• 11:27 — Home Depot refund hack and life hacks callback
• 15:21 — Richie introduced; movie fandom as new group dynamic
• 18:38 — “Gail Daughtry and the Celebrity Sex Pass” promo, contract requirements, “four questions”
• 26:38 — Where do movie ideas come from? (“Home Depot receipts”)
• 28:12 — Breaking writer’s block by visiting zoos, connecting with animals
• 29:17 — “Madagascar” group chat breakdown, animal texting
• 36:36 — Roadrunner vs. Sonic, 80s nostalgia, Back to the Future misnamings
• 40:02 — Favorite part of Joe’s new movie (meeting Henry Winkler), fight scene discussion
• 42:00 — Disdain for science vs. praise for acting’s world-saving potential
• 43:29 — Back to the Future’s existential questions and Joe’s interpretation

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Final Thoughts

Joe Lo Truglio’s 11th visit delivers the signature Hollywood Handbook blend of in-jokes, meta-satire, and improv chaos. From hermit crab charity scams to comedic dissections of acting contracts, the episode leans into recurring bits and running gags, while lampooning the mechanics of Hollywood storytelling. The addition of Richie as a “movie freak” creates an amusing echo chamber for their love-hate relationship with cinema—and the heights (or depths) showbiz can inspire.

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If you missed the episode:
This is Joe Lo Truglio in his element: riffing, revisiting (and botching) bits, all while amplifying the show's blend of Hollywood parody and high-concept absurdity. There's no need for context—just bring your sense of humor and willingness to follow a zigzagging comedic path.

Transcript

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[Casey]

Jolo episode Jolo. Every single time I say we're not, that's the last one. We're not having him back. I mean, I love you.

[Joe]

I know.

[Sean]

Yeah.

[Casey]

But how many, how many, how many

[Sean]

times have we tried to get a releasable episode out of you?

[Joe]

Well, first of all, you know how much I hate Jho Low. I mean, it's a very simple. It's Joe, who do you know that's named Jolo.

[Casey]

I know this immediately. This again.

[Joe]

Under again.

[Sean]

This is why he's doing it again. At this point, it's on me. No, at this point, it's on me.

[Joe]

No, it's on me. And I said that I'd try harder. And let's start over.

[Casey]

The lone himself of the 11 Timers Club, Joe Otrulio is back.

[Sean]

Thank you.

[Joe]

It's so good to be here.

[Sean]

Trulio Madlio. Deep Leo. I like to call you that one.

[Casey]

I like what. When did we first start? Was it you and Terry came on?

[Sean]

Were you.

[Joe]

It was either Terry and Terrence or Bill and William, because that was the whole theme. Like let's get the long name and the short name. Guess Terry Terrence.

[Casey]

You came on with Terry Terrence and you were trying to get Brooklyn 100 off the ground at that time.

[Sean]

I do remember being very excited about the prospect of Brooklyn 100.

[Joe]

Well, I was excited too, in hindsight, I think doing it two days after our show officially ended, I think wasn't great timing on my part.

[Sean]

A little bit. Yeah.

[Casey]

And not Terry Crews. Terry Terrence. I think that was like. Right.

[Joe]

I just wanted.

[Casey]

Terry. Terrence was not someone that people really remember from the show.

[Joe]

He can do anything with his pecs and he just. He was winded easily.

[Sean]

And I'll take it on the chin a little bit. I had a misunderstanding of what the number meant in Brooklyn. Nine. Nine.

[Joe]

Oh, yeah.

[Sean]

And I thought it was just like the percentage of comed that we were going to do. And it actually was something about a. It was the precinct Code or something. Yes. And so that precinct.

[Casey]

Y.

[Joe]

Yes.

[Sean]

So the Brooklyn 100 title, I think, was not really playing off of that.

[Joe]

No, no. And didn't exist. There was no 100th precinct.

[Casey]

Yes. We did raise a lot of money, as I recall, for the. For the show. Did that. Like, what?

[Joe]

$2,700 is a lot of money.

[Casey]

Yeah.

[Joe]

And, you know, nothing to sneeze at. What's that?

[Sean]

Nothing to sneeze at.

[Casey]

No.

[Joe]

You're not gonna kick that out of bed. Yeah, 2700.

[Casey]

And what ended up happening with that?

[Joe]

It ended up going into kind of a. A good charity. A good charity for, say, the Herm crabs, because a lot of them kind of leave the shell. And then I'm a big. I grew up in Florida, had a lot of pets. Hermit crabs was one of them. They died. And so that it went. It went towards that.

[Casey]

Okay.

[Joe]

I mean, it wasn't. It wasn't that smart of a thing. I think I could have raised more money if it was for kind of a bigger, if more altruistic charity, but.

[Casey]

Right. Well, I mean, you didn't say it was for a charity at all.

[Sean]

Yeah, at the time it was for the show.

[Casey]

And not even using Kickstarter. The platform is a cash app.

[Sean]

Yeah, just a cash app code.

[Casey]

And then the.

[Sean]

The hermit crab thing kind of came later, which I am now. I'm relieved to hear that it went to a cause at all.

[Joe]

It did.

[Casey]

Huh.

[Joe]

But we didn't save a lot of those guys.

[Casey]

You didn't save very many hermit crabs with that $2,700, do you? Is there a number?

[Joe]

Yeah, I mean, I would say about a dozen.

[Casey]

Wow. Okay.

[Sean]

You know, so back in the napkin math.

[Casey]

Eight. Okay.

[Sean]

Okay.

[Joe]

I saw that look. It kind of squinted and. All right, fair enough. Caught. Caught red handed.

[Sean]

Okay, so what are we working with, like, three, five hundred dollars? A hermit crab or something?

[Casey]

No, it's only 2700 total. So, yeah, so it's about. I think it's like 6, $800. A hermit crab.

[Joe]

Okay.

[Sean]

Yeah.

[Joe]

So, yeah.

[Sean]

So, yeah, so that charity. I also would kind of want to get under the hood, under the shell, as it were, and look at some of what they're processing. Ah, got.

[Casey]

Sorry.

[Joe]

I mean, that's kind of how I'm feeling right now. Crickets.

[Sean]

Hey, Grace, you're on Hollywood Handbook.

[Joe]

I didn't know you don't treat your guests very well. I mean, if they're calling in, they're making the effort to call in.

[Sean]

Well, I don't. I don't I don't necessarily think. Oh.

[Casey]

All he said was, you're on Hollywood Handbook.

[Joe]

Well, you're right.

[Sean]

You did. I thought that was actually really nice. If I had not said that, it probably would have been a much bigger problem, especially from how quickly the hang up happened.

[Casey]

And then we brought you back with. With Randy Johnson, I think. Was it you and Randy Johnson? Yeah, yeah.

[Sean]

Big unit.

[Joe]

Well, you remember, I. Yeah, it was. This was just after he nailed that bird with the fastball.

[Casey]

Yes.

[Joe]

So I didn't want to set him too.

[Casey]

This is like a stage show where

[Sean]

you were dressed up as the bird.

[Joe]

I would dress up as a bird. Exact. And I'd kind of. Kind of hustle across the stage and he. He would just. He'd be me with the ball. And this guy.

[Sean]

Yeah.

[Joe]

There's not a. You know, there's. There's a reason he's MVP of the 2001 World Series.

[Sean]

There's not a reason he's not MVP.

[Casey]

Yeah, he. The. The size of the studio, I think with his re. I mean, he just end up. Would end up just like wailing on you with his hand. Because to get a full pitch off

[Joe]

with his extension, I mean, he was like Freddy Krueger. I mean, with the like, you know, the nightmare. He's just the long arms.

[Casey]

He's just Freddy Krueger's famous scene where

[Joe]

like, you know, he has that long. Yeah, I felt like that's what he was just.

[Sean]

He wasn't like traditional Freddy Krueger that if you just say he was like Freddy Krueger. I don't think people necessarily picture the long arms. You're right. But he was like the long armed version. From the one scene.

[Joe]

From the one scene which everyone remembers. Yeah, that's the.

[Sean]

You got me thinking about it again.

[Casey]

Yeah. That'20 or 30 scariest Freddy Kruegers. Yeah.

[Sean]

Okay, great. And I was hoping to get some sleep tonight. Thank you, Jolo, for undoing that wish.

[Joe]

This is what happened on episode 10. It began with the whole Nightmare on Elm street talk.

[Sean]

Yeah. Which I swore we wouldn't get into again. But there's some themes that are so universal and that are, you know, water finds its level, as it were, and our brain just seeks purchase on these. These ideas. They're not comforting necessarily, but they're fascinating and we crave exploration of Freddy Krueger dreams. What do they mean? How long our arms. A bird getting hit with a baseball.

[Joe]

Since we're talking about the dreams, I had a recurring nightmare as a kid where I Came.

[Casey]

I like having you on the show. Sorry.

[Joe]

I get.

[Casey]

Sorry. It's a recurring nightmare. Like, we've had you so many times.

[Joe]

Are you gonna start with Jholo again or. You know, I'm doing my. I'm doing my best here. It's like, minute eight. Minute eight. It always turns out like clockwork.

[Sean]

I do have a fear that this is your best.

[Casey]

But.

[Sean]

But go ahead, because you were gonna tell us about this.

[Joe]

No, I mean, like, you know, look, whatever. Like, I fly towards this, the man in the moon. And he's going, you. And then like,

[Sean]

man in the moon's got fingers and he's pointing his little crater.

[Joe]

Crater fingers.

[Casey]

It starts out. And you're flying like you're.

[Joe]

No, it starts out, I'm walking and I'm. I'm picked up and rush towards the man in the moon. He's very angry and he's shaking his crater fingers at me.

[Sean]

Crater fingers.

[Joe]

Figure. What does it mean, crater fingers?

[Casey]

I'm having trouble picturing it as well. I mean, the. The craters are holes.

[Joe]

I know, but it's dream logic.

[Casey]

Okay.

[Joe]

You know.

[Casey]

Yeah.

[Joe]

It's tree. It's. Yeah. Are you drunk?

[Sean]

No, I'm just looking at. I'm looking at my fingers and I'm trying to think how they could be craters. Well, you give me a lot to chew on, Joe. I think we could get to the bottom of that today.

[Casey]

The sunglasses are like. They're meant to be worn in kind of a drunk way so you can get pulled over by police. They treat you a certain way. You're filming them.

[Sean]

I'm filming them.

[Casey]

Like, now you've got a case and content.

[Sean]

Yeah, I'm a victim. Which is my favorite thing to be is actually incredible. The sympathy that you can get when

[Casey]

you are a victim and rich.

[Sean]

Yes. Your second favorite thing and a little bit of money. Yeah. You can never be too rich or too thin or too victimized is what I always say.

[Joe]

I mean, you're not wrong, I suppose.

[Casey]

And then what was the neck? So the Mir on Elm street was number 10. You had Randy on.

[Sean]

I don't think he was.

[Casey]

I think he thought that was a game.

[Joe]

Yeah, he might have thought it was

[Casey]

like, you know, you told him it was a game. He seemed to think that Sean was.

[Joe]

I wanted to get him. You thought Sean was what?

[Casey]

Matt Stairs. Oh, who was. Were they.

[Joe]

Who's Matt Stairs again?

[Casey]

Well, now that I think about it, I feel like maybe they were on the Diamondbacks together at the time. I don't know. So, like, I Don't know. But he was not.

[Joe]

He wasn't happy. That wasn't a long episode.

[Casey]

Leaning over, really short.

[Sean]

Hey, we got this. Hey, we got this, man.

[Casey]

Right? Okay, so that's.

[Sean]

Hang in there.

[Joe]

Yeah. I had forgotten the bird outfit. That episode two, which made it awkward because I was walking across room and he's throwing me, throwing a ball at me.

[Casey]

Yeah.

[Joe]

No one understood why that was happening.

[Casey]

Yeah.

[Joe]

Without the bird, that.

[Sean]

Yeah. That episode was not a success.

[Joe]

Certainly compared to this one. Where would you say it is?

[Sean]

Scale of one visually interesting.

[Joe]

Yeah.

[Sean]

Which I don't think we have.

[Joe]

No, there's no.

[Casey]

You brought no visual element today at all. He has his sunglasses, his funny sunglasses,

[Sean]

and they can go on.

[Casey]

My drink is at least bringing a pop of color. Okay.

[Joe]

What about a Home Depot receipt?

[Casey]

All right.

[Sean]

Okay. Shopping.

[Casey]

Not a very long receipt.

[Joe]

Well, it's actually a refund receipt. Do you want to know. Do you want to read how much that refund was for?

[Sean]

Can I get a look at that?

[Joe]

Sure.

[Sean]

I think you're answering 12:06pm 12:06pm no,

[Joe]

but look how much I got back.

[Sean]

The money.

[Joe]

Yeah. Look how much I got back.

[Sean]

Okay. And the sales tax came back as well. Initial purchase. And you're going to like the beginning of this. 69698. It was 6.98. Sales tax was 73 cents. We got 60771 back. And this was for an adapter with plug. An ABS clean out adapter.

[Casey]

Yeah.

[Sean]

Okay, so it looks like you took them for a bit of a ride. And, and you know, we did do the episode where you talked about, you know, all your greatest life hacks.

[Joe]

Yep.

[Sean]

And one of them is Home Depot will let you make a return without a receipt. And so you'll go in there and just boost every which way you boost.

[Joe]

I'll, I'll like, you know, pay for it and then, you know, then go out and like maybe see if it fits the pipe, maybe not. Maybe it does hammer the nail, maybe it doesn't. Maybe I use the nail, maybe I don't. But I just take it right on

[Sean]

back and walk around the smart Charge

[Casey]

your phone for free at the end of the day.

[Joe]

Yeah.

[Casey]

Yeah. Okay.

[Sean]

Hey, guys, you know, there wasn't the right charger for me. Meanwhile, your phone's full of battery.

[Joe]

Full battery.

[Sean]

And then you got 771 in your pocket.

[Joe]

I go, I walk out. I go suck.

[Casey]

You call them. It's coming through. So clear on the phone because it's fully charged.

[Joe]

I got a full Bat. A full bat.

[Sean]

Yeah. The life Hack episode, I would say it was probably our best one. There was that and then there was some trick with parking meters that I'm not going to be able to remember.

[Joe]

Oh,

[Sean]

it was your hack, right?

[Joe]

It was.

[Casey]

Oh, it was something like tying a string to the quarter when you drop it in the slot.

[Sean]

I think so.

[Joe]

Yeah.

[Sean]

Which a lot of them don't take quarters now, so. It was a long time ago that we did the episode.

[Joe]

Yeah, yeah. Mostly they just. It's a credit card now, but. Yeah, the quarter.

[Casey]

That's what it. No, that's when it became tying a string to the credit card. When you pull it in. So you can pull it back out.

[Sean]

Pull it back out.

[Casey]

But you're supposed to pull it back out.

[Joe]

That's right.

[Sean]

And as we actually realized that you had been leaving a lot of credit cards in parking meters, all the parking meters you might have. Learning the string trick.

[Joe]

My rating went way down. Cuz I had, you know, I had about 15 credit cards. I had new credit cards. I had to get a month.

[Sean]

Got to open a new one every time you park. Yeah.

[Casey]

And it keeps paying that meter.

[Joe]

Yeah. Over and over.

[Casey]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Joe]

So.

[Sean]

Which also is illegal. Like if somebody else is parked there and you pay their meter.

[Casey]

Yeah, that's illegal.

[Sean]

You go to jail, brother.

[Joe]

I don't like that. I don't like that.

[Casey]

That does seem a little.

[Joe]

You can't be kind, like suddenly you can't be kind like, hey, this person may have a bad day. Maybe, you know, maybe a sat on attack, you know, maybe he stepped in gum, you know, and he didn't, you know, he's upset. He can't get his coins out of his pocket and he's just like, I'm out of here. And then he comes back to see.

[Sean]

When did it become illegal to be kind? When did that happen in this country? Exactly.

[Joe]

Yeah.

[Sean]

And I think we can pinpoint it. It was somewhere around your fourth appearance on the show. And I don't know if it was related or not.

[Joe]

Maybe, maybe not.

[Sean]

There was some shift.

[Joe]

There's a shift, A seismic shift.

[Sean]

This whole entire concept of a Good Samaritan somehow became weak or frowned upon. Yes.

[Joe]

Frowned upon or just.

[Sean]

Just a negative. A negative thing. It ruffled people's feathers.

[Casey]

It was.

[Sean]

Yes. So that's why I don't understand. Richie's here.

[Casey]

This is Richie. Hey, how's it going? Richie wasn't here last time. For your last episode. Were you here for the last one? No, I wasn't.

[Sean]

Oh, dude, you'll be able to bail us out, man.

[Joe]

Was he. Was he working here during the fourth episode? The illegal. When is it illegal?

[Casey]

He just said that he wasn't. That he's new. He's never.

[Joe]

I don't listen to people.

[Casey]

Yeah.

[Joe]

Off camera normally.

[Casey]

Yeah. No. So. But that's. That is what he was saying over there was that he was not there for that episode.

[Joe]

Okay.

[Casey]

Ricky or any of the other ones. He's right there.

[Joe]

All right?

[Casey]

You're not. You keep looking at the sea like he's not on sea. Like he's not.

[Sean]

Like he's not behind anything. He is there. He's right across from you in the corner.

[Joe]

One day I'll. One day I'll meet Richie.

[Casey]

He loves movie.

[Sean]

The guy's a movie freak.

[Joe]

Who's this guy over here?

[Casey]

That's Richie.

[Sean]

So that is Richie. That's actually. Yes, we're making that forward progress. So that's Richie. Oh, he's a movie holic. He always comes in. Every time I see him, he goes, oh, I was at cinema last night.

[Joe]

Oh, wow.

[Sean]

Cinema.

[Joe]

What's your favorite seafaring movie?

[Sean]

Seafaring movie. Ooh, Life Aquatic with Steve Swizo.

[Casey]

Okay.

[Sean]

Steve Swizo. Such a memorable character. My son was talking during, so I couldn't hear most of the time.

[Casey]

Sud was talking over some of the names.

[Sean]

Oh, man.

[Joe]

You get that? That happens.

[Sean]

Richie does watch the. He does watch the films. All with the soundtrack for the visually impaired. So they are constantly describing the scenes too. So I think it sometimes leads you to, on one level, miss dialogue, but also to understand the plot, I think, better than others because it is being dictated to.

[Joe]

I also went to lausd, so, you know,

[Sean]

teachings there.

[Casey]

So the whole thing is just kind of just leaking out. Yeah. Yeah. That's really tough. But he loves movie.

[Sean]

The guy's a movie maniac. And then meanwhile, we got someone here who's in a movie.

[Casey]

Yeah.

[Sean]

And I'm thinking, is this a pairing that could actually work? Because it doesn't feel like there's been any connection in the 11 appearances with the three of us. And so having this new spoke.

[Casey]

Yeah.

[Sean]

To sort of focus. I like this bike and just. Just to. To sort of explore movies.

[Joe]

Yeah. Okay.

[Sean]

Through the lens of Richie and you reflected off of him could actually be maybe rewarding.

[Joe]

I. I mean, I do feel it. I do feel something now. Now that, like, we are kind of engaged. Now that I am seeing you, I'm seeing that soul behind that. I'm seeing that window. I'm looking through that window and, you

[Sean]

know, for me to see it.

[Joe]

Yeah, well, you know, I think it could work, though. I think this. Our love for cinema can work together, you know, so.

[Sean]

So Richie, he's in a movie. So are you gonna watch that?

[Casey]

Oh, yeah.

[Sean]

Yes, definitely watch it.

[Joe]

Yes, it's. It has the captions and everything, if you want it. So, yeah, it's.

[Sean]

And talk about the movie.

[Joe]

Well, I mean, in the movie, Richie, the movie's called Gail Daughtry and the Celebrity Sex Pass. And about this. About this girl who. She's gonna get married.

[Casey]

The name thing. Like, you might want to simplify it for him a little bit because you just heard. Yeah, I'm so bad with names.

[Sean]

I think that's.

[Joe]

Pass. Yeah. Sex pass.

[Sean]

Yeah. I think what you're gonna find is that Gail Daughtry gets pretty butchered in the retelling if you leave any. What we see. Is there a name in the title? He has an issue. Steve Sweezo.

[Joe]

Yeah, it's Gail Suizo and the Delivery Sex Pass. Yeah. You know, Chris Daughtry.

[Casey]

This.

[Joe]

This Gail gets. She gets cheated on by her fiance, sleeps with very famous big shot big shot. You gotta go see it. And so she wants to sleep with a big shot, Jon Hamm.

[Sean]

She goes a little bit of a revenge. Revenge story.

[Casey]

And now, I mean, I'll just skip ahead.

[Sean]

John Dick. Am I right?

[Casey]

John. John Penis.

[Sean]

John Penis.

[Joe]

Right.

[Sean]

Because it's. It's a revenge tale, right?

[Joe]

That's right.

[Casey]

I know we're gonna have this conversation sooner or later. You always say that in all of your movies and shows that you do. Your only requirement in your contract is that your character is getting it in at the movie. Do you want.

[Joe]

That's his.

[Casey]

Yeah.

[Joe]

I

[Casey]

never really, like. Does that mean, like, having sex? Like, I guess I've never really. This is a movie about having sex.

[Sean]

Well, yeah. The other characters, if that's what getting it in is, they're doing it in a way where I feel like another character doing it would actually be distracting

[Joe]

it to me. Maybe.

[Sean]

I don't know.

[Joe]

I mean, I say, like, getting it in. I could be getting it in or I could be getting into me. So it goes either way.

[Casey]

And that is happening in this one as well.

[Joe]

It's happened in this one. It's happened in most projects that I.

[Casey]

Okay, so sometimes they have broken the contract.

[Sean]

So what makes you decide to sign on for a project that's not honoring that? Is it just a dream director to work with? Is it the script?

[Joe]

Well, look, there's four questions. Is it that I have to answer? There's four questions.

[Sean]

Feeling I'm at Passover.

[Joe]

You know, there's like, is this scary? All right. Am I gonna make money?

[Casey]

Right. Yes.

[Joe]

Or is it gonna be fun? And the last is, will I get sick? So. But one I didn't take was. I was scared.

[Casey]

Well, let's go. Let's do. We're promoting Gail Doctrine, so let's go through the process.

[Sean]

Well, hang on. I want to hear this.

[Casey]

Okay. Yeah, yeah.

[Joe]

Well, the one you were scared it was gonna be funny. Yeah. That. That I didn't do. That did have. We'll get them in. We'll get something in them.

[Casey]

Yeah.

[Joe]

I was gonna get sick on it.

[Casey]

Oh.

[Joe]

And so, you know, I was like, you know, because you would think not getting sick is a plus. No, I want to get sick.

[Casey]

Right.

[Joe]

It's got. I need a yes.

[Sean]

So it was gonna be scary. It was gonna be funny, fun. You were gonna have fun.

[Joe]

I was gonna have fun.

[Casey]

You were gonna make money and you

[Sean]

were gonna get sick.

[Joe]

Yeah.

[Sean]

And so it hit all that criteria. So you were willing to not get it in or get it into you.

[Joe]

Yes. Correct.

[Casey]

Okay.

[Joe]

Correct.

[Sean]

But you want to talk about Gil Daughter.

[Casey]

Well, I was just. I wanted to go down the checklist for that movie because you must have answered. You must have asked yourself the four questions going into that process.

[Joe]

You got it again. You got it.

[Casey]

And specific elements of the production that satisfied each of the four questions.

[Joe]

Okay. Well, you know, I. I did have fun.

[Casey]

Okay.

[Joe]

Because I. I worked with one of my heroes, the Fonz. Henry Winkler.

[Casey]

Yeah. So you knew that was gonna be fun.

[Joe]

I knew that was gonna be fun.

[Casey]

And free soda.

[Joe]

I was scared. It did scare me because there is a scene. I'm not gonna blow it. I'm not gonna spoil it.

[Sean]

But it doesn't know. You gotta shell out the money.

[Joe]

But there is soup. And that was involved in this thing, and that was scary.

[Casey]

And you read the script and it made part.

[Joe]

Yeah. He gave me the willies.

[Casey]

Okay.

[Joe]

And then fun, scared. Oh, and the money.

[Casey]

Money.

[Joe]

And I wasn't going to make the money.

[Casey]

Okay. You were not compensated for this particular.

[Joe]

I wasn't going to make the project. I was compensated enough, but I wasn't going to make the money. But I.

[Casey]

You were going to make the money? Yeah, I was. Yeah.

[Joe]

I was going to make a money, but not the. The money. And then I. I was. It was gonna make me sick, and it did get me sick.

[Sean]

Oh, well, congratulations on getting that taken care of?

[Joe]

4. Three out of the four was a yes.

[Sean]

Yeah. And then you. And you got it in as well.

[Joe]

And I got it in.

[Sean]

I mean, possibly into the soup.

[Joe]

Anybody make your money?

[Casey]

No.

[Joe]

Free lunch is here.

[Sean]

Come on.

[Casey]

To do it all at once like that. To be scared, get it in, have fun and make money at the same time and get sick.

[Joe]

Well, I didn't make. Well, but he didn't make. I didn't make.

[Sean]

He was paid.

[Joe]

It was a slave.

[Casey]

Made a money.

[Joe]

Slave work.

[Sean]

But he paid a fair rate.

[Casey]

Right.

[Sean]

But he. But he didn't make the money.

[Casey]

Right, right, right.

[Joe]

Yeah.

[Casey]

And what kind of sick. What kind of sick did you got?

[Joe]

Yeah, it wasn't. It wasn't like a neurovirus. It was. It was more kind of like a scratchy throat that turned into, like a stuffy nose. So it was. It was a moderate. But again, that's okay. Yeah, that is okay.

[Casey]

Yeah.

[Joe]

I don't kind of differentiate between, you know, leprosy and like, you know, a common cold. One of the two is fine.

[Casey]

Yeah.

[Sean]

When leprosy would be preferable.

[Joe]

But, I mean, I would be sick.

[Sean]

Yeah, that's sick. That's very sick.

[Casey]

Yeah.

[Joe]

You know, but I would have my own island. Oh, that's where they put them.

[Sean]

Right.

[Casey]

At that point. Yeah, I guess. You would have your own island.

[Joe]

Yeah. Yeah, that's where. That's what I'm told.

[Casey]

Yeah.

[Joe]

Growing up, all the stories I read, they had their whole island. Yeah. So is that so bad? I don't think so.

[Sean]

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[Joe]

Hollywood Handbook.

[Casey]

Is Casey in there? I'm here. This is Casey.

[Joe]

Hi, Casey.

[Casey]

He loves movie.

[Sean]

Casey's a movie. Casey just made a movie, actually.

[Joe]

Oh, yeah.

[Sean]

You should have been in that one because I definitely think it would have been sickening to you. And it's. It's certainly scary. It's about like, Casey's having sex with a devil or something. It's like. Yeah.

[Joe]

Oh, so someone went in Him.

[Casey]

Yeah.

[Sean]

It's like. Yeah, it's called the Devil Loves Me so Long. That's close enough. Yeah. Okay.

[Casey]

It changes every time.

[Joe]

Is it 90 minute, or do you go past the 90? Because that's the ideal time. Is it one minute? 121.

[Casey]

The actual runtime is 96 minutes.

[Joe]

Okay. Okay.

[Sean]

So both those numbers appear on the receipt.

[Joe]

That's where I get my ideas. Yeah. Most ideas come from this receipt.

[Sean]

It is funny when people do say, like, God, you know, you work in Hollywood. Where do you get all your crazy ideas? And they don't understand that, like, when you have a mind like ours, the ideas are right there on your Home Depot receipt all day. You return the charger. You know, you get a fully charged phone. You just look at that thing until you get a movie idea.

[Joe]

That's right.

[Sean]

Have sex with Jon Hamm. You know what I mean? Like, that's in there. That's in the barcode.

[Joe]

You have to have an open mind. Right? Like, you know, all these riders, magic

[Sean]

parachutes, they only function when open. They only function when open. Go ahead.

[Joe]

You float down in that parachute, dude.

[Sean]

Yes. Right?

[Casey]

Yeah.

[Joe]

I like how zigzag. I like how this is going.

[Sean]

I hope so.

[Joe]

Yeah. The thing is, like, if you really are worried about someone stealing your idea, listen, pal, writing's not for you. The good writers, the. The ideas just come out.

[Casey]

You're supposed to have so many. At least three more in there. Yeah.

[Sean]

No, four total ideas. Every great writer has four ideas total. And some of them, they do twice.

[Joe]

And if you still are stuck, you still are just in a big old writer's block. Go to Home Depot.

[Casey]

Go live your life. Go have an experience, Right?

[Sean]

Oh, yeah, sure. Go to the. Yeah. Go to the zoo and then take, you know, and then go to Home Depot and then bring, you know, one of the. A tool to the zoo and try to open the cages.

[Joe]

Yeah. You know, get to know the tiger, get to know the platypus, get to know the rhino, know your fellow sentient beings on Earth. Even if they're a fence around them to protect you from them, you can still commune. You can still.

[Sean]

Them, you know.

[Joe]

That's right.

[Casey]

And your friends. Madagascar of them.

[Joe]

I know a few of them. I can't. I can't.

[Casey]

The. The group is not still, like, really, like, the whole Madagascar group is not.

[Joe]

That whole group.

[Casey]

Yeah.

[Joe]

I don't think they're still together. I think. Okay. Yeah. I think after that, you kind of had to.

[Sean]

That sucks.

[Joe]

Yeah, they had.

[Sean]

That sucks, man. Yeah, I'm sorry, dude.

[Joe]

That's all right. Success got to their head or their horn or their long neck or their.

[Casey]

Success got to their long neck, you know?

[Sean]

Sucks, dude.

[Joe]

All of it. No, it does. It sucks. You know, it was a good. It was a good group. It was a good group. They worked hard. They did so funny, funny stuff.

[Sean]

What's going on in the Madagascar group chat at this point? It's just crickets.

[Joe]

I removed myself from the con you had. I had to. I mean, it was getting. First of all, I didn't understand any of the text. Yeah, most of them can't, you know, type, so. Yeah, it was a lot of just ellipses and then nothing would appear. Right.

[Sean]

Yeah.

[Joe]

You know, they're trying to. However, with their snouter. It was just a stupid idea signature.

[Casey]

It takes. And the hoof is not giving that. Yeah,

[Joe]

but so that was that. That was sayonara. See you later, Madagascar. That was.

[Casey]

They don't speak Japanese.

[Joe]

They're. Oh, the animals. Well, you're right. Yeah, I guess they don't. Well, panda did.

[Casey]

No,

[Joe]

panda didn't.

[Casey]

No, it didn't.

[Sean]

Yeah, unfortunately, no, the panda did not speak Japanese.

[Joe]

He always said he did, but he always was a black and white liar anyway.

[Casey]

Okay.

[Sean]

Yeah. So it feels like you're kind of digging the hole a little deeper at this point. Hayes is really trying to bail you out.

[Casey]

This is why. This is why after the last one,

[Sean]

I always think, like, I don't want to talk about Freddy Krueger again. But then I go, well, that's just a safe area where I know that Joe's not gonna be the first area.

[Joe]

I don't understand why you wouldn't want to talk.

[Sean]

Yeah, just. No one's really offended when you, you know, mischaracterize what languages he speaks and

[Casey]

things like that, because he's like. Like he's such a bad guy. Like, you can kind of put whatever you want.

[Sean]

Yeah, well, yes. And so there's a freedom discussing Freddy Krueger with you. I'm just saying it's safe. And that when we do, you know, and it's our fault for getting into the whole Madagascar concept, but, you know, I could feel that we were about to touch the third rail. And with the Sayonara, we certainly went in there and then doubling and tripling down. I just. I think, like, let's. I can't believe we're doing this again in this episode. I know.

[Joe]

I mean, what do we do to Reset now?

[Casey]

And I'm sort of.

[Sean]

We're going to rank the most iconic times that Freddy Krueger said the word bitch, you know, and it's not what I wanted the episode to be about and certainly isn't something I'm comfortable saying this many times.

[Joe]

No, you're right.

[Sean]

But I think we do have to do the top 12 times that Freddy Krueger said the word bitch, because we are. We are quoting Freddy Krueger, which I think makes it okay.

[Casey]

I don't want to be. I don't want it to be interrupted.

[Joe]

Do that.

[Casey]

Well, if we're starting, I want us to be able to finish it. And you did say when we were booking this that you were going to need to have dinner during the show and that you were going to bring your dinner and that you were going to be eating it in such a way that you could return it

[Joe]

so that it would look like I can get the refund.

[Casey]

You could get the full refund on the dinner. So you would kind of be eating somehow the inside of the dinner.

[Sean]

It's like the center of the burger patty, but you leave the rim so that it still holds up the bun.

[Joe]

It's kind of like how they hide, like, cash in those books. They just dig out a little hole. That's what you're talking about?

[Sean]

Yeah. Well done it with a burger. That's what I guess you were talking about. But yeah, now I'm talking about it

[Joe]

because we got you and you.

[Sean]

That's getting me.

[Casey]

And I don't understand. If you're leaving cash in the hollow dinner when you're returning it, it seems like you're losing money.

[Joe]

Oh, no, no, I'm not doing that. I was just saying, like those things you see in the movie, like the cash.

[Sean]

No, I just.

[Casey]

What do you put in. Do you put something in the hollow.

[Joe]

Oh, crumple up some paper or, you know, put some mulch or something in there.

[Casey]

Mulch.

[Joe]

Yeah.

[Casey]

Okay.

[Sean]

Seems like then they would take.

[Casey]

When they would take it back just

[Joe]

for the weight of it.

[Casey]

Maybe you wet the mulch a lot. Like, to get heavy enough to be.

[Sean]

Well, mulch is often free.

[Casey]

No, I know, but just so they don't suspect when they're holding up the

[Sean]

texture of the returned burger.

[Casey]

The weight. The weight when they hold in there. Because, like, it all hinges on when you hand the. The uneaten dinner back to them and

[Joe]

say, I don't eat this at all. So, like, you know. You know, it's in the kind of plastic.

[Casey]

Yeah, but with you, they're looking in the bag, Joe. You've done this so many times. I don't ever.

[Joe]

Not to Home Depot is too many employees that work there. They don't. But like I not at the neighborh.

[Casey]

Isn't the whole thing about Home Depot that you can't get the attention of the employee? There aren't enough employees.

[Joe]

They got a return desk. It's a return desk, and there's always someone there. But in terms of the restaurant, I never do the same burger trick more than once.

[Casey]

You fill it with different stuff or

[Joe]

you do, like, always mulch or crumpled up paper.

[Casey]

Okay, so then you're going to different restaurants.

[Sean]

Restaurant every time.

[Joe]

Yeah.

[Casey]

Okay.

[Joe]

Yeah.

[Sean]

What is it that you think happens after you give back the mulch burger that kind of burns you at that place? Maybe an employee goes back and tries to eat it, gets a big mouthful of mulch, realizes that they gave you.

[Joe]

No. I mean, they probably just throw it out and they never find out about it. And they're like, yeah, sure, here's your refund back. But, yeah, where's the fun at that point?

[Casey]

I guess?

[Sean]

Yeah. How many times are you gonna order and return a burger?

[Joe]

Well, a couple times I've waited in the car. I've gone out to my car and sat in it and kind of just watched the front do. Just clocked it, waiting for them to run out. And they never. They never do.

[Casey]

So I'm assuming they're Scorpion jacket with your gloves.

[Joe]

Yeah, I do have driving gloves.

[Casey]

Just sitting at the wheel.

[Joe]

Right. And. And the car's running. One time, one guy came out and I just, you know, flipped them off and like, tore out of the parking

[Sean]

lot and got him.

[Joe]

That felt pretty good. But that was only one time.

[Casey]

And you don't think. It sounds like you're not sure he was coming out to. It might not.

[Sean]

Or that he recognized you.

[Joe]

Yeah, I don't even know if he noticed me.

[Casey]

He might have been a patron rather than.

[Joe]

He wasn't wearing an appointee.

[Casey]

He's not the person that you.

[Joe]

No, no, no. Yeah.

[Casey]

Wasn't wearing an employee.

[Sean]

Just uniform out of the same building.

[Joe]

Maybe that's what it was.

[Casey]

Yeah. Okay.

[Sean]

Okay. And is it ever not a burger? Is there any other food that you replace the middle of with mulch?

[Casey]

Where do you get the mulch? Is my. You answer his question first. But.

[Joe]

Well, it's mainly burgers because that's the easiest thing to hollow out. Maybe a sub. It's always a sandwich of some sort. In terms of the mulch question, I would say that the Glendale public Works has a pile of mulch right behind the library there in Brant park. And that's all free.

[Casey]

Okay. And that's. They're replacing that. Yeah, they dump.

[Joe]

They dump fresh mulch all the time there. Yeah.

[Casey]

Okay. Because you are.

[Joe]

I don't know if they know what.

[Casey]

Like they don't know who is taking it, but they know it's gone. They have to replace.

[Joe]

No, it is for everyone. It's. If you live in Glendale.

[Casey]

Oh, it's for everyone.

[Joe]

Oh, yeah. So that's why I'm never caught. Like, you know, I just. They think I'm going to, you know, throw some mulch down on the garden, but.

[Casey]

Yeah.

[Sean]

Who's faster, Sonic the Hedgehog or the Roadrunner?

[Joe]

I like that. I like that Switch up. I like that Segue way. I'm going to go with Roadrunner.

[Sean]

It's faster.

[Joe]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. But you know what? I'm old school. Yeah.

[Sean]

And this is what I like about you. We took task on the sayonara comments, but it is like you're from a different time.

[Casey]

We used to. These zoomers who named themselves after Sonic, by the way.

[Joe]

Get it. Give me a break. You know, we're latchkey kids.

[Casey]

We used to go outside. We used to drink out of the

[Joe]

hole and when would you go home? When the.

[Casey]

When the light went off.

[Joe]

That's right. That was time.

[Sean]

Literally. Raised by tv. I was a kid. I watched the movie Back to the Future. Kids don't know about this, but the style and the car and that movie, I mean, that was part of my childhood.

[Joe]

What was great is that you felt you were transported. You felt you. Like you were transported to another time.

[Sean]

To a different time. Different time. Yes. Yeah, yeah. No, it was so cool. Martin the Fly.

[Casey]

Mr. Brown.

[Joe]

Mr. Brown.

[Sean]

Mr. Brown was there.

[Casey]

Yes.

[Sean]

And Biv.

[Joe]

Biv and Mr. Brown and.

[Sean]

And Bib is kicking everyone underwear and. Yes, yes, yes.

[Joe]

It was that movie.

[Sean]

So incredible. They don't do that anymore. But yeah, when. When we were kids, that was. That was the thing. And I'll be unreal.

[Joe]

But anyway, that's the time I'm from. Like, that's. You know, so you get it.

[Sean]

Like, yeah, kids. Yeah.

[Joe]

All the pranks. I do. And then my obsession with. To be. Not to be named again and you know, all the. Because I'm from then. I'm from the 70s and the early 80s.

[Sean]

Yes, yes, yes. And the. And that at that time, people need to understand it was just different. We didn't. We weren't.

[Casey]

This

[Sean]

part robot living in my phone it was literally what you were looking at was you were looking someone in the eye and you were calling them some sort of slur or you. Or you were.

[Joe]

Or some, you know, misogyny type of something.

[Casey]

Something.

[Joe]

Yeah, that.

[Sean]

Some part of it that awful. That. Yes. And you. Yeah. And then you would go and throw crab apples at each other until somebody ended up in the hospital.

[Joe]

Y.

[Sean]

It was just a different. It was a different time in the world. Was so alive then. It wasn't technology, you know, it was

[Joe]

real famous interaction, you know, like, work it out, work it out, you know, with your words, you know, not. Not online, you know.

[Sean]

Yeah, no, it was. It was real. It was real back then. So the movie's Gail Daughtry and the celebrity sex tape. And so, Casey, do you have any questions about the movie? I know you're a movie maniac. You just made your movie. Yeah, I got a question about the movie.

[Casey]

What is your favorite part of the movie?

[Sean]

And I was ready to not like the question, Casey. And it was grand slam home run. You hit it out of the park because. And the way lit up and I don't know if you can see him, but Joe's eyes lit up.

[Joe]

Sparkle.

[Sean]

This. This man, he just got a four course burger dinner put down in front of him to hollow out because he's going to dig into this question with relish.

[Joe]

My favorite part. I mean, I, you know, I touched upon it, but like the relish is your favorite part.

[Casey]

Part.

[Joe]

No, no, no.

[Casey]

Oh, your favorite part of the movie. Oh, okay. That was the question he asked. Yes, that's right. Okay. Favorite part of the movie.

[Joe]

I'm telling you, it was. It was meeting the font. It was meeting like you said before.

[Casey]

Yeah. So Casey, if you remember, he actually did answer the question.

[Joe]

My second favorite part. Because, you know, let's, you know, I'm. I'm a game student.

[Casey]

Yeah.

[Sean]

Let's get something.

[Casey]

Was.

[Joe]

Was a fight scene that I did. I did a fight scene.

[Sean]

Yeah, yeah, I did.

[Joe]

Like, it's all choreographed. It was pretty fun.

[Casey]

And you kind of talk about your approach. Like they're all fight scenes, right? It's all stage combat. It can be a scene.

[Sean]

Every scene has a winner and a loser.

[Casey]

Yes, that's right.

[Sean]

And you ain't gonna lose.

[Joe]

I ain't gonna lose. I'm gonna take. I'm gonna take this person down. Whether it's mentally, physically, I just wanna, you know, it's about make sure I could. I could succeed and I'm good in this.

[Casey]

There's a lot of setting up the

[Sean]

continuity in their coverage.

[Casey]

As long as they know they lost.

[Joe]

Yes. Yeah. Just say like, like tap out. If they tap out again, even if we're not physical, like we'll be in a scene and then they'll see and they'll go. I'll be like, yeah, you know, give them a nod. I won't do extra dialogue. I don't want to ruin the writer's vision. But just so they know that I saw the tap out, you know, they

[Casey]

have a secret code with the director, as all actors do, for when they need to go home. Like they're. For when they're done.

[Joe]

That's right. That's right.

[Casey]

When they feel like they're gonna feel

[Joe]

like they've done, they've given it their all and they can give no more.

[Sean]

That's such a disrespected art. And people think they have this cushy, you know, sort of like just make believe existence where they're totally coddled and in fact, you know, it's constant combat and you do often need to signal the director that it's just time to go home.

[Casey]

And who was this fight scene with?

[Joe]

Who was it with? It was with. It was with John Slattery. And Slattery will get you every. Everywhere it. Well, this, this flattery did this latter. He did. And some extras. And some extra slattering. Some extras.

[Casey]

Oh, wow.

[Sean]

Background artists.

[Joe]

Yes, background artists.

[Sean]

Yeah.

[Joe]

I mean, a lot of people, you were talking about acting. A lot of people don't understand that it can really save the world.

[Sean]

Thank you.

[Joe]

It can. It's. It's maybe the most powerful art form.

[Casey]

Well, it's getting ready to do it.

[Sean]

I think the money that's been going into science and this other stuff that has yet to reap any kind of dividend for.

[Joe]

Show me results. Science. Show me facts.

[Sean]

Science. And meanwhile, we've basically not supported the arts at all in this country. And some of that acting that's being done, I think has been much more impactful. What was the movie I just saw

[Joe]

that almost saved the world?

[Sean]

I was, I. I was re watching Back to the Future. The acting in this movie, it really makes you think about where do we come from? Right. And what we do in, in this, in this life. Does it matter? Like, how do we affect those around us?

[Joe]

I mean, advance y family. What happened before? That's an important hoverboard.

[Sean]

Work on water. Yep. Can it work on water or do

[Casey]

you need to have. And what's going to happen later?

[Joe]

Yeah. And what's going to happen later.

[Casey]

And what happened even before that?

[Sean]

What was before that? And how did that affect what happens?

[Joe]

And we're at this moment. This moment. This moment.

[Sean]

We can expect what happens later.

[Casey]

Yeah.

[Sean]

And we can go back to before.

[Joe]

Yeah.

[Casey]

And of course, one of them, starring our friend Mary Steenberg, which must have gotten you a little excited.

[Joe]

It was harder to hollow her out.

[Casey]

A steamed burger like that. Yep.

[Joe]

I was gonna see if there was any more ideas on here.

[Sean]

Hollywood Handbook.

[Joe]

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