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Hayes Davenport
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Sean Clements
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Hayes Davenport
who. My face Dirty.
Sean Clements
Huh?
Hayes Davenport
Dirt on my face.
Nick Kroll
I don't know.
Hayes Davenport
Did the ranch all day ever take you out to the ranch? No, You.
Nick Kroll
You've never taken me to the ranch.
Hayes Davenport
Oh, we are rectifying with love today.
Sean Clements
Okay, today we may need to cut this episode short because it's a little bit of traffic this time of day to get to the ranch, but it's wor.
Nick Kroll
Worth it.
Hayes Davenport
Yeah, it's VR. Hey, man, he's kidding. It's a virtual reality.
Nick Kroll
It's a. It's a virtual reality ranch. Yes, dude, you guys did Westworld, but life.
Hayes Davenport
So Westworld is not that.
Nick Kroll
It's not a ranch.
Hayes Davenport
It's from the west, but it's not VR. Virtual reality is a completely different concept from Westworld. People do say this. I'd appreciate if you could help get out there now that you've been educated. Now. Now that you've been educated. That casual reality, I did not want
Sean Clements
that to be what the episode was.
Nick Kroll
Sorry, but I.
Sean Clements
But it's. This is going to take us all
Hayes Davenport
the way to the end.
Nick Kroll
I'm really sorry to bring it up. I didn't mean to stir the. Stir the bonnet right away.
Sean Clements
Well, let's do it now. You start it. Explain it.
Hayes Davenport
Westworld takes place in meatspace, even though some of the characters, some of the personalities in the experience are cybernetic.
Nick Kroll
Sure.
Hayes Davenport
Virtual reality takes place entirely on the computer plane, the digital.
Nick Kroll
So it's not a helmet. Is it a helmet driven experience?
Hayes Davenport
It is a helmet. Thank you for understanding that. Because some people say goggles. No, no. This is a full immersion shoulder to hair helmet.
Nick Kroll
Lowered down like a Joan Cusack in a high school movie. Like broken.
Sean Clements
Yeah, that's the halo and the neck brace and everything. Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes. It's like that.
Nick Kroll
And then you're on the ranch. And what's the vibe on the ranch?
Hayes Davenport
There's ice cream.
Sean Clements
There's infinite ice cream.
Nick Kroll
Bottomless, bottomless troughs of ice cream.
Sean Clements
And I eat it. Bottomless oh, yeah, I bet you do.
Nick Kroll
Because that's the.
Hayes Davenport
Randy.
Nick Kroll
That's the vibe in the ranch.
Sean Clements
At the ranch, there's no rules.
Hayes Davenport
There's puppies and. And kitties. Yeah, like, that's what we're ranching for the most part.
Nick Kroll
You're ranching puppies and kitties. You're heard. Puppies and kitties.
Sean Clements
Kitties, yes.
Nick Kroll
So it's a puppy mill. Is that what we're talking about? Is this a puppy mill that you guys are running?
Sean Clements
Virtual puppy mill with ice cream.
Hayes Davenport
Like, it's the same as, like, a cereal mill for puppies. So it is a. It is a puppy mill in that.
Nick Kroll
Like a cereal mill. Oh, like. Like the. The real versions of the ancient grain of cereal.
Hayes Davenport
You break them down into their, like, component.
Nick Kroll
Yes.
Hayes Davenport
Parts.
Nick Kroll
So you are.
Hayes Davenport
It's virtual reality.
Sean Clements
But.
Nick Kroll
So you are milling when you. So when the puppies are being. There's a millstone and they're pulverizing the puppies.
Hayes Davenport
No, because that would be like. That wouldn't be as useful for. Like, you just break them down so you can separate the little, like, parts out. Like, the parts that you need. You don't want them. Like, what would you do with. Pulverize means turn to dust.
Nick Kroll
Yeah. You can make.
Hayes Davenport
I guess my question.
Sean Clements
I mean, it would be sludge in this case. What are you going to do with the sludge? Drink it, I guess. I guess you drink it.
Nick Kroll
You drink the puppies.
Hayes Davenport
We gotta get you. We gotta get you out here.
Sean Clements
You've got to get out.
Hayes Davenport
Gotta get out to the ranch. You gotta get out to the ranch. We take turns.
Sean Clements
You would love it.
Hayes Davenport
So you specifically would love it. Yeah, I'm using it.
Sean Clements
Yeah. 100.
Nick Kroll
Color me intrigued.
Hayes Davenport
Ice cream is so good. The ice cream's in the helmet and.
Nick Kroll
And vert. Sorry. I know, I know. We want to move on, but. And virtual reality is different than augmented reality.
Hayes Davenport
Augmented reality has been augmented. Yeah. Visual on screen experience replicating meatspace, the world that we move through, but injected with Pokemons. Oh, yes.
Nick Kroll
That's the augmented reality stuff. So it's. Right.
Hayes Davenport
Yes. Hitmonchan is there.
Nick Kroll
That's one of the Pokemon.
Hayes Davenport
Yeah, Hitmonlee is there.
Nick Kroll
Did you guys get to talk there?
Sean Clements
Yeah, Psyduck's there.
Nick Kroll
Did you guys get to talk to Ryan Reynolds when he was doing Detective Pikachu Press? Did he come through?
Sean Clements
Yeah. So that episode still has not released. We have a little bit of a background. That one. We are. Well, he's something of a riffman, so there's A lot of good runs in there and it's kind of picking and choosing cuz we do have to hit our target time. Yeah, yeah. And so but that one, yeah, obviously he did sit down with us and we haven't released it yet but Ryan was here and you know, a fun project and he was fun talking about it. Although we couldn't keep him corralled into just that. He hit on every topic you could imagine.
Nick Kroll
Yeah.
Sean Clements
From pissing to shitting to having sex to you know, soccer, football, you know, killing news to killing someone drinking gin, you know, and everything that he brought up it was like, oh, this he's an expert on. Oh now this he's an expert on. And it became like no, his mind holds the entire universe at once and he's just sort of funneling it down to me.
Nick Kroll
So yeah. So then choosing the clips has gotta be challenging.
Sean Clements
It's really been a slow process. Even understanding the clips for me has been a.
Nick Kroll
Well, so like I wanted to talk to you guys about your clips.
Hayes Davenport
Yeah, okay.
Nick Kroll
Cause I'm, you know, not super familiar at this point but with the show
Hayes Davenport
you'll go on, before you go on a show, you'll do a quick clip chat.
Nick Kroll
I'll do a quick, quick clip check,
Hayes Davenport
see what am I in for and what's my following it for.
Nick Kroll
Yeah.
Hayes Davenport
Will I be co posting.
Nick Kroll
Yes, yes. Will there be a collaboration?
Sean Clements
Collab would be so big for us, you know, because we, you know, we count on that to sort of break containment. Of course our audience knows us already but your audience, Nick, you check with
Hayes Davenport
your social media liaison.
Nick Kroll
Sure.
Hayes Davenport
To say is there an opening to.
Nick Kroll
No. And I've. And he. Your team, they, your team has been in, your team has been in quite regular contact about the clips and what. And collab and inviting. Inviting a collab and will Nick accept and can, you know.
Sean Clements
Yeah, we like to get some sort of assurance before we even find what the clip is, you know, right before
Hayes Davenport
we want to talk to you.
Nick Kroll
Yeah. And I, and I, but I respect that about you guys. You guys are really straightforward.
Sean Clements
We try to be above board where it's like, you know, obviously we want to promote your stuff and you got so much good stuff. But we also do see it as an opportunity for everyone to benefit in terms of our stuff getting seen.
Nick Kroll
Sure, sure. I mean that's the beauty of it. It's a give and take, it's a collaboration, it's symbiotic. Totally.
Sean Clements
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Nick Kroll
Sucking the succubus of it all.
Sean Clements
Sucking on. Yeah. Yeah, sucking on.
Nick Kroll
You know, sucking on the teat.
Sean Clements
I'm sucking on your ass. But I'm cleaning stuff out of it too.
Nick Kroll
You know, like you guys are. Thank you. You guys are a couple human bar butt barnacles.
Sean Clements
Yeah. Lamprey.
Nick Kroll
What's that?
Hayes Davenport
Remora.
Sean Clements
Lamprey.
Nick Kroll
Uh huh. Is that kind of like in the stingray family? A tick bird. Yeah. A what?
Sean Clements
Little tick bird.
Nick Kroll
A little tick bird.
Sean Clements
Just park myself right up there on
Hayes Davenport
your ass and I'll take that rhinoceros right on top and.
Nick Kroll
Are you giving stuff in there? Are you just sucking out? Or are you putting stuff in the system too?
Hayes Davenport
We know what we're doing up there. You know what I mean? When we're feeling around up there, you know exactly, exactly what. What we're doing. Don't you wor.
Nick Kroll
Can I say, like, if I. If you guys embed into me, is it best to smoke you out? Is it best to scoop you out? Smoke us out.
Sean Clements
Hey man, I didn't know it was that kind of episode today.
Nick Kroll
You can smoke us out.
Sean Clements
Geez, 420 was a week or two ago, but I could make an exception.
Hayes Davenport
Nah, man.
Nick Kroll
No, we're having fun for real.
Hayes Davenport
No, don't touch us at all while it's happen. Yeah. Do not even physically.
Nick Kroll
Don't physically touch.
Sean Clements
Don't hang during that moment.
Hayes Davenport
Keep it pushing. Do not do anything just to let
Sean Clements
us go all the way through. If you pull us out when we're halfway in, you don't know what we're gonna take with us.
Nick Kroll
I'm okay. Good to know.
Hayes Davenport
Nick roll. It's time.
Nick Kroll
Close
Hayes Davenport
a roll for you.
Nick Kroll
Okay. A Nick roll.
Sean Clements
Your most challenging one yet. Yourself.
Hayes Davenport
Yeah, but we have to. We have to stop.
Sean Clements
Come on, man, you guys gotta set the table.
Hayes Davenport
We have to. We have to stop pretending.
Sean Clements
Come on.
Hayes Davenport
It's time for you to take over. Or jimmy Nick at night.
Sean Clements
Nick at night.
Nick Kroll
Take over. Nick at night as. No, you do both. Or I call the. I take over late night. And I do. I call Nick at night.
Hayes Davenport
This guy's radioactive, okay? There's no telling what he'll do next.
Nick Kroll
I.
Hayes Davenport
You got to stop it.
Sean Clements
He's a goddamn ticking fucking time bomb, Nick.
Hayes Davenport
And it's only. We're all in the blast radius. Or take us down with him.
Sean Clements
Yeah, he's willing to say anything. We need a trump positive talk show hosted by Nick Kroll stat.
Nick Kroll
Nick at night. It's playing off the nostalgia we do. It'll be for Paramount plus.
Hayes Davenport
Got it.
Nick Kroll
Because they own the underlying rights, obviously. So it's exciting to think about that collaboration.
Sean Clements
Oh, my God.
Nick Kroll
It would be really. I'm. It would be really exciting for me.
Sean Clements
What a superpower. It's all going to be one company soon anyway.
Hayes Davenport
It's all. It's this. And this is going to be a Comics Unleashed also.
Nick Kroll
Yeah. What we're doing is we're buying local markets and it's an interesting. This is actually what I wanted to talk to you guys about.
Hayes Davenport
Sticking around.
Nick Kroll
Here we are.
Sean Clements
I hate that it's. Here we are.
Nick Kroll
Here we are. Right.
Hayes Davenport
Can you.
Nick Kroll
But let's talk about local market purchasing of ad time. And it's.
Hayes Davenport
What.
Nick Kroll
And finally, let's talk about Byron. Let's talk about Byron Allen.
Hayes Davenport
Finally have the Byron card.
Nick Kroll
Let's talk about Byron genuinely. Can we talk about Byron the segue man? Yeah, right. Well, exactly. Now, I feel like you guys get a lot of what you do from sort of having watched a lot of
Sean Clements
Comics Unleashed steal from the greats.
Hayes Davenport
And we watch it. And how do we watch it? Like everyone else on tv. No, we are paid audience members. That is our main job. More Comics Unleashed. And so then you get to watch not only the comedy, but all the rehearsals as well.
Nick Kroll
Yeah, watching the. Yeah. So the element of routines over and over again.
Sean Clements
Oh, yes. See them explain the routine to B. The way that he introduced it the first time actually did not set up what they were going to do. And some other ways he could maybe approach it.
Nick Kroll
And so you guys must be super interested in how he's. He's basically just leasing the time that. That 11:30 slot on CBS is now just going to be leased out to Byron Allen. And. And he's buying up local markets and
Hayes Davenport
then he sells ads to products based on unspecified animals.
Nick Kroll
Yes. Pulverized puppies, per chance.
Hayes Davenport
Hey, if someone were to get into that business, puppies probably should be someone with a little experience. Right.
Sean Clements
I'd look the other way.
Nick Kroll
And that's because you have trouble making eye contact.
Sean Clements
I'm struggling with that my whole life.
Nick Kroll
Nick. We're 13 minutes in. Almost 13. We're 1330. 1330 and bam, we hit the 1330 mark.
Sean Clements
So, you know, with.
Hayes Davenport
What was that feeling?
Sean Clements
Like probably about 10 minutes of content.
Nick Kroll
Yeah, that felt a bit like about 10 minutes of content and 3 minutes of just fun for the boys.
Sean Clements
Some of that stuff's just for us.
Hayes Davenport
So we make money coming and going on this thing.
Nick Kroll
Really?
Hayes Davenport
Yes. Because also, of course, all the comics are paying to be on the show. And when we say paid audience members, mean we pay You.
Nick Kroll
Yes, of course. You pay to be in the audience.
Hayes Davenport
Of course. And so everything is monetized.
Sean Clements
I benefit so much. And, you know, with something like comics on. Lee, I do want to see how the sausage gets made.
Nick Kroll
Sure. Well, you love the process and you're. But you don't really. You're not doing too much comedy yourself at this point.
Sean Clements
So I have stopped. Not because I was unsuccessful, though. That didn't help. I have stopped because I've found a new passion. And that, of course, is promoting you and your brand.
Nick Kroll
Thank you.
Sean Clements
And your show.
Nick Kroll
Sure. You're into manage. You guys are managing now.
Sean Clements
I'm not asking for a percentage yet. If you like what I do, prove your worth. If you feel like. Yes, your visibility has been improved.
Hayes Davenport
We don't work in contracts and sign your name.
Nick Kroll
Don't sign this little.
Hayes Davenport
That's not our business.
Sean Clements
If I need to compel you with some piece of paper to keep working with us, then I haven't done my job correctly. I actually want you to be excited to cut me a check at the
Hayes Davenport
end of the day, where you go,
Sean Clements
well, this guy earned this because, like, my value will be far greater than the 20, 25% that I'm taking.
Nick Kroll
And I'm very happy with my management, my representation. Everyone says that at first, but I would love to hear where you see me in five years.
Sean Clements
Okay, Hayes, you want to take it away?
Hayes Davenport
I'm just saying what I saw. I'm just saying what I saw. Okay, you prompted me. I had a vision. Dead on the surface of the moon. Lying dead, completely undisturbed. There's no eruption, explosion, there's no wind up there.
Sean Clements
Eyes exploded out of your head.
Nick Kroll
Okay. Peacefully dead.
Hayes Davenport
Peacefully, peacefully dead. Decomposition, not really an issue. Gravity?
Nick Kroll
No gravity.
Sean Clements
Face frozen in a scream, sure, right.
Hayes Davenport
But big cavities in the skull where the eyes used to be. Otherwise, very peaceful, huh?
Sean Clements
Yeah.
Nick Kroll
Honestly, could be much worse.
Sean Clements
So, I mean, Serenity, the surface of the moon.
Hayes Davenport
I should tell. Sorry, I'm just. You did look very peaceful, but you're. You're kind of touching your.
Nick Kroll
I'm touching my area.
Hayes Davenport
Yeah.
Nick Kroll
So I'm screaming.
Sean Clements
Face frozen in his scream, kind of around it. On the moon, holding my dick, both hands cupped. Around you?
Hayes Davenport
No. Yeah. Just kind of like around the area.
Sean Clements
In the zone. Yeah.
Nick Kroll
Okay.
Hayes Davenport
You didn't get there in time is what it kind of seems like happened.
Nick Kroll
Ultimate. The ultimate Goon.
Hayes Davenport
There was time now, right?
Sean Clements
Goon on the moon.
Hayes Davenport
Goon on the Moon.
Sean Clements
Goon on the Moon. That was the name of what we were trying to make when something went wrong.
Nick Kroll
Well, that's my movie about Jim Carrey making Man on the Moon is me playing Jim Carrey making the movie.
Hayes Davenport
You are playing Jim Carrey making the
Nick Kroll
movie man on the Moon, which. Playing Andy Kaufman.
Hayes Davenport
You're playing Jim Carrey playing Andy Kaufman. Yes. Playing Tony Clifton, telling his manager that he doesn't. He's never seen him before.
Nick Kroll
Yes. So if that's what five years is.
Hayes Davenport
Seeing a plane and screaming because he thinks that planes weren't around in the 1970s.
Nick Kroll
Yeah, yeah. That's the idea.
Hayes Davenport
And because you didn't see the original movie.
Nick Kroll
I did not, but I saw. I heard people talk about the documentary about Jim Carrey making the movie. So mine is based. Our movie will be b. Our movie. If you guys are willing to engage.
Sean Clements
I like to think of it that way, as ours.
Nick Kroll
Great. Yeah. Well, if you want to be my manager, you know, get involved.
Sean Clements
Yeah, I would like.
Hayes Davenport
And he doesn't need you. Say you're happy with yours. That's. There's a lot of room in the tub.
Sean Clements
You know me on the.
Hayes Davenport
Why shove them aside.
Nick Kroll
Sure, sure.
Sean Clements
It could be a great collaboration.
Hayes Davenport
You got 45, like, 55 left.
Nick Kroll
Okay.
Hayes Davenport
To go around. Yeah, let's all. Let's eat.
Nick Kroll
You know, let's all. Yeah, let's all. Let's all come to the table.
Sean Clements
I'll do it, too. You're in.
Hayes Davenport
I'm in.
Sean Clements
Okay.
Hayes Davenport
I'll get in there too.
Nick Kroll
Okay.
Sean Clements
Richie, you want a slice of this?
Hayes Davenport
Yeah, count me.
Sean Clements
Okay, Richie's in.
Nick Kroll
All right, great.
Hayes Davenport
Richie's a killer.
Sean Clements
This guy's a animal. He's psychotic. Honestly, I'm gonna get cut out of the deal. I know it. I shouldn't have invited Richie because that's how cutthroat this son of a is. But while I'm there.
Hayes Davenport
Ooh.
Sean Clements
The eating's gonna.
Nick Kroll
Yeah, it's gonna be fun.
Hayes Davenport
You know what his. You know what his full name is?
Nick Kroll
Who?
Hayes Davenport
Richie. We were just so. We were just talking about Richie. So that's Richie right over there when we were saying he's a killer. He's a animal.
Nick Kroll
I'm sorry, I should have mentioned. I have full. Goldfish. Goldfish.
Hayes Davenport
Goldfish, Goldfish.
Sean Clements
Goldfish.
Nick Kroll
I have gold first.
Hayes Davenport
Oh, my God.
Nick Kroll
Different than goldfish brain.
Hayes Davenport
Very.
Sean Clements
This is. Goldfish is for us.
Hayes Davenport
Goldfish can at least swim.
Nick Kroll
Well, Goldfish. It was a. It's something. It happened to Austrian man in 1913.
Hayes Davenport
Sure.
Sean Clements
Yeah.
Hayes Davenport
Goldfish.
Nick Kroll
Yeah. Adolf goldfish.
Hayes Davenport
Unfortunate.
Nick Kroll
Yeah, at the time.
Hayes Davenport
I see why they call it goldfish instead of Adolf?
Sean Clements
Yeah.
Hayes Davenport
So that's rich.
Nick Kroll
Yeah. Who's Richie?
Hayes Davenport
Richie is the guy over there.
Nick Kroll
Oh, okay. Oh, hi.
Hayes Davenport
And sorry.
Nick Kroll
I have a gold first place.
Hayes Davenport
Oh, no.
Sean Clements
Oh, yeah.
Hayes Davenport
We literally. We just had.
Sean Clements
Well, it's proof positive. Yeah. Because if it's the conditions presented to us and it's on his shirt and
Hayes Davenport
his nice shirt just a tiny bit. It's not.
Nick Kroll
It's not a nice shirt.
Hayes Davenport
It's like you knew you were gonna spill.
Sean Clements
I think that might be a Filson.
Nick Kroll
I wish it were a Filson with bizarrely off sizing. Go to Filson. Get a small that's bigger than all of your other shirts. Somehow that's how it works at Filson sometimes.
Hayes Davenport
Really?
Sean Clements
Filson's a unique sizing brand.
Nick Kroll
Yeah.
Hayes Davenport
I love that.
Nick Kroll
Do you guys ever, like, wearing green or blue? Either of you?
Hayes Davenport
Either green or blue.
Nick Kroll
Yeah.
Sean Clements
Don't make me pick.
Hayes Davenport
He's actually wearing both today, and I'm wearing blue right now. That's so crazy that you would say that. We're actually wearing those colors right now today.
Nick Kroll
Well, maybe everybody brings a little something to the table.
Sean Clements
Yeah.
Hayes Davenport
His name is Richie.
Nick Kroll
Wait, who is this?
Hayes Davenport
That's Richie. His name is Richie Sambuca. Mm. Like Richie Sambora. But it's.
Sean Clements
But it's about.
Hayes Davenport
It's Sambuca. And so people think when he, like, enter. Like, when he comes to the negotiation table, people think like, party time. Richie Sambuca's here.
Sean Clements
Yeah.
Hayes Davenport
But.
Nick Kroll
Yeah. And is that guard Richie Throat? Can I ask, is that your maiden name?
Hayes Davenport
Yes, that is his maiden name.
Nick Kroll
Interesting. Richie Sambuca.
Hayes Davenport
He has kept his maiden name for business purposes.
Nick Kroll
Exactly.
Sean Clements
Speaking of maiden names, mating season.
Nick Kroll
Look at that.
Hayes Davenport
Mating season.
Nick Kroll
Finally.
Sean Clements
You know, we do have a job to do here.
Nick Kroll
21 minutes in.
Hayes Davenport
We only have. We got one shot at this.
Nick Kroll
Yeah.
Sean Clements
The way we cut it, it's gonna feel like 16 minutes.
Hayes Davenport
It's gonna be 16.
Nick Kroll
So we've cut another two from the.
Sean Clements
It'll feel longer. Yeah. Hey, guys, it's Sean from Hollywood Handbook. You heard it, now see it. Hollywood Handbook is now available with video episodes, free in the Iheart app. Watch your favorite podcasts, full episodes from start to finish, all. All in the free iHeart app. You can also watch lots of your other favorite podcasts, like hey Jonas, Las Culturistas, Post Run High and more. Hear the voices you know. Now see the moments you missed. Open the iHeartRadio app. Search video podcasts or search Hollywood Handbook and tap watch.
Nick Kroll
But mating season.
Sean Clements
Maiden season.
Nick Kroll
What the heck are you up to this time, Nick?
Hayes Davenport
So now let you. They let you take another bite at the apple? Sometimes I go, oh, watch out. Something's coming.
Nick Kroll
Yeah. Yeah.
Hayes Davenport
Wow.
Sean Clements
Blasted in the torso with a comedy cannonball on this guy.
Nick Kroll
It's. Some of it goes a little blue. How do you guys feel about blue stuff?
Sean Clements
Oh, my God.
Hayes Davenport
I'm actually wearing it right now.
Sean Clements
I'm wearing the color. And by the way, if you're talking about getting a little dirty, I love
Hayes Davenport
talking about that stuff.
Nick Kroll
Yeah.
Sean Clements
Oh my God.
Nick Kroll
Yeah.
Hayes Davenport
Sex. You can say whatever you want.
Nick Kroll
Can you? Yeah.
Sean Clements
Go crazy.
Nick Kroll
Yeah. Do you have all of George Carlin's stuff memorized?
Sean Clements
Obsessed. Obsessed. And I consider it. I consider it.
Hayes Davenport
And we will do them on here. We will do the seven words. He's going to do them right now. He's going to do all seven. We've done it before and we'll do it every episode.
Sean Clements
I say them. I should be allowed to say them. I should explain why it's actually good to say them. And then when I'm done with that little modern man. Little bit of modern man.
Nick Kroll
What about modern mammals? How do you guys feel about Pete Holmes shampoos?
Hayes Davenport
We never talk about it on this show.
Sean Clements
So Pete.
Hayes Davenport
We don't talk about it every episode. We don't talk about that. We don't talk about magic.
Sean Clements
Mind me bringing up his ads, which are they even ads. They feel so native to the content. They exist in that I can't quite tell. But that's not something we've touched on before. Just like somehow isn't hitting my algorithm. But explain it to me.
Nick Kroll
It's.
Hayes Davenport
But you can tell what I.
Sean Clements
Better than another guy. Somebody friend of his maybe.
Hayes Davenport
He's been on that since college. He's been on that tip.
Nick Kroll
Modern mammals.
Hayes Davenport
Yes.
Sean Clements
Really?
Hayes Davenport
Shampoo. That is pulverized. It's dust. You don't use it in the shower. You just put it dry.
Nick Kroll
Oh, it's a dry. It's like a dry shampoo. You just put it and it's pulverized Mammals.
Hayes Davenport
You gotta go outside.
Nick Kroll
You gotta do it outside.
Hayes Davenport
Do not do it in the house.
Nick Kroll
Okay?
Hayes Davenport
Go outside. Don't even do it on the property.
Nick Kroll
Really. Get off the property before you do it.
Sean Clements
You're gonna want a little bit of space
Hayes Davenport
in the public right of way in the street. Do it in the street.
Sean Clements
Do you need a magic mime, by the way?
Nick Kroll
I would love one.
Sean Clements
Do you know about this stuff?
Nick Kroll
Tell me about it. What's the deal? With magic mind.
Sean Clements
Green tea.
Hayes Davenport
Yeah,
Nick Kroll
that's it, basically, pretty much. Yeah. Would you drink blue tea? Because you like. I know you like green tea. Would you drink blue tea?
Hayes Davenport
Blue tea.
Sean Clements
What do you have in mind?
Nick Kroll
You know what I want. Would you guys drink, like, high tea? Are you guys doing a lot of testosterone right now?
Hayes Davenport
Drink pure tea. Yeah, just like gelatinous tea in its natural form.
Sean Clements
For me, what I found is that the host is rejecting
Nick Kroll
the tea.
Hayes Davenport
And it's like an elevator shaft.
Nick Kroll
Right.
Hayes Davenport
I. I have not straight falls. It doesn't want to be there.
Sean Clements
I have not found the correct delivery system yet. But everything so far. Yeah.
Hayes Davenport
Talk about having a good side.
Nick Kroll
Oh, my God.
Sean Clements
Oh, my Jesus.
Nick Kroll
Yeah, no, it's a thicker. It's a thicker dosage.
Hayes Davenport
Okay.
Nick Kroll
So you. But. So you can. You can do, like, an injection.
Hayes Davenport
An injection. Okay.
Nick Kroll
But it's at least the stuff that I'm. That I'm pedaling.
Sean Clements
Yeah, it's thicker. Okay. Well, that could be good for me. I'll try basically anything.
Nick Kroll
And it's my own.
Hayes Davenport
And it's getting all over the place.
Nick Kroll
It's kind of my own personal testosterone.
Hayes Davenport
Because cats are walking around. Yeah. Beefed up.
Sean Clements
Yeah. Because they're just, you know, behind me, eating it off the ground. Comes tumbling out of my asshole. My cats are.
Nick Kroll
And they look good or they're jacked. Are they happy? How are they doing?
Hayes Davenport
Their jaws got a little big. Yeah. Yeah.
Nick Kroll
Big old jaw.
Sean Clements
Yeah.
Nick Kroll
And they do it sort of meal plan or like, what are they doing? They just. Because they got to get their calories if they're gonna build muscle.
Sean Clements
Oh, yeah. No, they're. They're doing all kinds of different, like, body weight exercises.
Nick Kroll
Are they with each other or what's their. What's their relationship?
Sean Clements
They are all.
Hayes Davenport
Yeah. They're all with each other.
Sean Clements
Yeah, they're with each other. Yeah.
Nick Kroll
That's really beautiful.
Hayes Davenport
Some of the. Some of the. In some directions. It's not going super well right now.
Nick Kroll
How so is it. Are you having trouble with either of them or.
Sean Clements
I'm having trouble because I am no longer sort of in charge of the household.
Nick Kroll
Okay.
Sean Clements
I have no testosterone. They have too much testosterone.
Hayes Davenport
Where are you saying so I thought you understood. They're all with each other.
Nick Kroll
No, I get that. So I didn't want to. Because you know him better. Like, that was my feeling, what you were implying, but I wanted confirmation that you're feeling a little, like, X'd out. Like, you've been sort of boxed out a little bit. Because they're Ribbon.
Sean Clements
More of like a butler figure.
Nick Kroll
Yeah.
Hayes Davenport
Yeah.
Sean Clements
For the hot cats who are kind of just running roughshod over me.
Nick Kroll
Yeah.
Sean Clements
Yeah.
Nick Kroll
That's what I. I didn't want to pry, but that's sort of what I was.
Sean Clements
Fine. It's fine. I talk about it on the show. You know, the hot testosterone cats in
Hayes Davenport
my house, each other's brains. Yeah.
Sean Clements
They're fucking like crazy having sex.
Hayes Davenport
That's what I thought you meant. Like they're all.
Nick Kroll
Yeah. I mean, that's part of it. Like. Yeah.
Sean Clements
And I just got to watch. And if I even go. If I try to touch myself.
Nick Kroll
Yeah. They get. They get. Well, cuz they still have. You didn't declaw any of them. So they can come right at you.
Sean Clements
Yeah, they go ahead and swipe at me. No, no, no.
Hayes Davenport
Not till I. Sorry, one second.
Nick Kroll
Are you.
Hayes Davenport
He's the only person who like the text get through.
Nick Kroll
Sure. No, of course. That's the kind of beauty if you figure out what. Like a brick.
Hayes Davenport
But he wants me to say, dude gets no pussy about Sean.
Sean Clements
Okay.
Hayes Davenport
Because it's cats. He's a. Yeah. Killer.
Nick Kroll
I'm telling you guys. Just like a shot of Sambuca. It's sweet going in, but it burns when it gets down to the belly.
Sean Clements
Yeah. Yes.
Nick Kroll
Yeah. It stinks. But you're gonna have a heck of a time.
Sean Clements
Yeah. It's fun. Lose your inhibition.
Nick Kroll
Would you ever let Richie Sambuca be the bartender at the Ranch?
Hayes Davenport
That's so interesting. The bartender. Right. Now that might be an issue because he is currently a ghost in the machine. Okay, so he's not. He's not in the programming.
Nick Kroll
Gotcha.
Hayes Davenport
Right?
Nick Kroll
Enough said.
Hayes Davenport
He.
Nick Kroll
Enough said.
Sean Clements
Yeah. So Nick is done listening to what you're saying.
Nick Kroll
Enough said.
Sean Clements
You said finally.
Hayes Davenport
At last.
Sean Clements
Yeah.
Hayes Davenport
I can. I can die.
Nick Kroll
Yeah. Just ease into the end.
Hayes Davenport
Oh, God.
Nick Kroll
Eyes closed. Exploded out of your face. Thank you.
Hayes Davenport
Thank you.
Nick Kroll
Gripping yourself Screaming into oblivion on the surface of the moon.
Hayes Davenport
I've been waiting for this for so long.
Sean Clements
Enough has been said, right?
Hayes Davenport
Anna Konkle. I thought. When she was here. I thought we almost got to the.
Nick Kroll
To the end.
Sean Clements
We had Anna Conkle a couple weeks.
Hayes Davenport
Whoa. I'm sorry. I didn't mean to like.
Sean Clements
Whoa. It's like sometimes guests are weird about us talking about other guys. You're confident enough.
Nick Kroll
No, I mean, I asked about Ryan. Like, I'm. I'm pretty happy with where things are.
Sean Clements
Yeah.
Hayes Davenport
Right.
Sean Clements
So with good cause. Yeah.
Nick Kroll
Yeah. Mating season.
Hayes Davenport
Yeah.
Sean Clements
Mating season. The cats are having sex. Is some of what's happening on your show? It's animals.
Nick Kroll
Well, ironically. Well, you know, there. It's all about animals living in the woods, dating backwoods. Zach Woods.
Hayes Davenport
Wow.
Nick Kroll
June Diane Rayfield, Sabrina Jaleese. Nick Kroll.
Hayes Davenport
Got a little taste for daddy, right? Yeah. You know it's not a charity organization, right?
Nick Kroll
That's right. That's right. That's absolutely right.
Hayes Davenport
Yeah.
Nick Kroll
It is not a charity organization. This is a for profit enterprise. Okay.
Sean Clements
Yeah.
Nick Kroll
It's, you know, make no mistake, it's
Sean Clements
not called show charity.
Hayes Davenport
Oh,
Nick Kroll
that's a really beautiful idea though.
Hayes Davenport
Show charity would be really nice. That'd be awesome.
Nick Kroll
It's not a show business, it's a show charity.
Hayes Davenport
We're just giving it away. Yeah. And you go begging to various people to be like, can you please, please just give us money to do this? You get nothing.
Nick Kroll
Nothing.
Hayes Davenport
We're just gonna get it on tv.
Nick Kroll
Please, please give me an exorbitant amount of money in the human experience to
Sean Clements
make it worth our while, obviously to do. But a show charity organization like that
Nick Kroll
could really be something where any overages, you know, we donate. Yeah, anything.
Hayes Davenport
Anything that's left over. But like also me. We should probably put it back into the show.
Sean Clements
Well, I need a little taste for me.
Hayes Davenport
Yeah.
Sean Clements
Now obviously we. I mean, if you're giving money at all, you probably want that to end up on screen, at least in the
Hayes Davenport
pockets of the people on screen, you know, for sure. For the.
Nick Kroll
Right. And it's because you gotta fly him in. He's to you fly him in from Montana.
Hayes Davenport
Yeah, exactly.
Nick Kroll
But he's the best. Keith is great. He's really. I mean the voice obviously is incredibly special, but his on screen, I was
Hayes Davenport
going to say part's bad. But you don't like. You don't like at least like a.
Nick Kroll
Like as a voiceover artist. You don't like him?
Hayes Davenport
No, not for me.
Nick Kroll
Hot take.
Hayes Davenport
I think it's great.
Nick Kroll
It's like just don't feel it.
Hayes Davenport
Just talk.
Nick Kroll
I guess because I'm. I guess because I'm in it feels fake, you know, I guess because I'm. I'm sort of. I live in the animation space, mating season, et cetera. I think about voices. Like I really. When I hear a voice, I'm like, is that a voice?
Hayes Davenport
Yeah. I also. What's happening almost my entire life on an animated ranch. So you act like you're the only one.
Nick Kroll
Is it animated or is it virtual?
Hayes Davenport
100% cool world style.
Sean Clements
The puppies and kitties. Are cartoons animated? Oh, it's like the Aristocats are there basically.
Nick Kroll
Okay, yeah. Do you guys talk about the. The Aristocrats on here? That the joke.
Hayes Davenport
We say it at the end. We don't talk about it until the very end.
Sean Clements
We do the joke. The last like nine or 15 minutes of every episode is us doing the Aristocrat's joke. And you know, we take bits and pieces of all the. We try to always make it fresh. But we also do borrow from all of the different comedians in the documentary.
Nick Kroll
Who told do you guys. Ms. Gilbert.
Hayes Davenport
We were just.
Sean Clements
I don't have a chance to. Because I'm engaging with his content so often.
Hayes Davenport
I mean you're just engaging with this content.
Sean Clements
I do think that you aren't actually gone if people are still watching you. Watching and listening and thinking about the work you created.
Nick Kroll
I think that's kind of what is behind the concept of fame.
Sean Clements
Everyone dies twice, don't they, Nick?
Nick Kroll
How so?
Sean Clements
Well, once when you're on the surface of the moon, hands reaching for your area, just screaming and your eyes exploded. And then again the last time someone clicks stream on mating season, that's when you die. Once they've completed all the second time.
Nick Kroll
I don't know if you guys are completion rate heads but I would love to just talk quickly about just getting make sure and really activating our audiences to for completion.
Hayes Davenport
How many minutes do you really need?
Sean Clements
Yes.
Hayes Davenport
Well, like what are we like let's compromise.
Sean Clements
Give me a three day and give me a 26 day target.
Nick Kroll
Okay, well let's say it's on Netflix. There's like, I guess like what do we. How many subscribers on Netflix now? This is like 300 million subscribers worldwide. Something I think if we got like 296 million households watching, watching the whole thing. Well, that's the thing. There's gonna be a drop off. So like let's say at least what's
Hayes Davenport
the moment that we're thinking that is gonna.
Nick Kroll
I mean, I guess there's a moment where Sarah Silverman as a skunk expresses her anal glands all over me.
Hayes Davenport
Okay.
Nick Kroll
And we end up in a. I'm a raccoon. I'm a dirty little raccoon. And we end up in a copulatory tie. So I think there might be certain markets.
Sean Clements
That's inside the skunk's vagina.
Nick Kroll
Yes, exactly. Yeah, yeah. But it's really like. It's like it's a one night stand that doesn't end. So then.
Sean Clements
Well, of course to actually deal with some real intimacy because of this physical.
Nick Kroll
It's like we're taking animals.
Sean Clements
You know, inconvenience.
Nick Kroll
Right. Like animals, obviously, but then we're telling actually kind of human stories. We're exploring stories.
Hayes Davenport
We learn more about ourselves than we ever could by watching ourselves.
Nick Kroll
Yeah.
Sean Clements
Are you allowed to do that?
Nick Kroll
We had to get. Yeah, we had to. We had to get a couple letters. We got a special clearance. Yeah. Yeah. We got a letter from Christopher Nolan.
Hayes Davenport
Wow.
Nick Kroll
Okay.
Sean Clements
All right.
Nick Kroll
Which was.
Sean Clements
Chris said okay out of the dga. Yeah. He's okay with it. I'm okay with it. Yeah.
Hayes Davenport
Jesus. Goats and animals. Yeah. Why is it called that?
Nick Kroll
Dogs. Goats and Animals.
Hayes Davenport
Dogs, Goats and animals.
Nick Kroll
What's that? Oh, he's the president of dga. I'm sorry. Of dogs. Goats. Dogs.
Sean Clements
Goats and animals.
Hayes Davenport
Yeah.
Sean Clements
He's mad at hay. Hay shouldn't be using AI for those dogs, goats and animals on the ranch.
Nick Kroll
And Chris, have you guys. Wait, have. Have you guys done your Sheep Detective rewatch yet? I guess it's hard. It's not out yet. Are you guys excited for Sheep Detective?
Sean Clements
Sheep Detective is on my list, right ahead of number two.
Nick Kroll
It's pretty.
Sean Clements
I'm excited. Yeah. Top two, and it ain't two. No. I'm stoked. I can't believe what those sheeps are up to in the trailer.
Nick Kroll
At least.
Hayes Davenport
We were gonna go.
Sean Clements
Are they allowed to do that?
Hayes Davenport
If you wanna. Like. He mentioned Gilbert. We were gonna go to the Earwolf Cemetery after this, if you wanna.
Nick Kroll
Oh, yeah.
Hayes Davenport
Like, check out some of the places
Nick Kroll
that's in that sort of that we work space near Hollywood Forever Cemetery.
Sean Clements
We worked.
Hayes Davenport
Yeah, we worked.
Nick Kroll
We worked.
Hayes Davenport
And it says it's really nice.
Sean Clements
You.
Hayes Davenport
So you walk in and you hear. It's your voice saying a. Woo. Yeah, the people dead.
Nick Kroll
That's right.
Hayes Davenport
And we'll. So we'll go see Gilbert and Scott, of course.
Nick Kroll
And of course, like, that's really beautiful. That's really great.
Sean Clements
It's nice. Nice to remember that stuff.
Hayes Davenport
Yeah.
Sean Clements
I hope someone does it for me.
Nick Kroll
Are you worried about your mortality? Yeah, a little bit.
Sean Clements
Just because, like. Well, some of what's been happening with the tea not getting into my body. Like that actually can't be good.
Nick Kroll
No, no. If your body can't absorb that, you're
Hayes Davenport
supposed to have at least a little.
Sean Clements
You're supposed to have.
Nick Kroll
Yeah.
Hayes Davenport
And it's like they say low, not. No.
Sean Clements
Yeah.
Nick Kroll
Do you feel like you've spilled the tea?
Hayes Davenport
Spilling is just a different thing compared to this.
Nick Kroll
Are we gonna spill the tea today?
Sean Clements
Well, you said you had a bombshell when you came into the office, you said you were gonna really hit us with some major news.
Nick Kroll
Oh. I mean, if you guys wanna.
Sean Clements
I wouldn't mind going viral. I mean, it could be good for us.
Nick Kroll
Okay.
Hayes Davenport
We could do. We have a segment called Make a Dish foundation where you dish on.
Nick Kroll
Sure.
Hayes Davenport
Cool stories from Hollywood that could help.
Sean Clements
Maybe help someone who's in the hospital.
Hayes Davenport
Yeah, no, this is a lot of hospitalized listeners.
Sean Clements
Yeah.
Nick Kroll
Oh, really?
Sean Clements
That's where we're most popular.
Nick Kroll
You guys are playing, like, in hospital in the waiting rooms or in the actual the.
Hayes Davenport
Where the stuff plays on the PA at the hospital.
Nick Kroll
Okay.
Sean Clements
In the rooms where people have a coma.
Nick Kroll
So it's just audio, no video. Cause it's just hard.
Hayes Davenport
Were you gonna do something for the dish? Was there a visual component?
Nick Kroll
I wanted to do? Yeah. I wanted to do it. I mean, I think you can just hear it and it's fine.
Hayes Davenport
Okay.
Sean Clements
Yeah.
Nick Kroll
But obviously there's just something about video that helps you connect, especially to sick people.
Hayes Davenport
Ain't that the truth?
Sean Clements
Yeah. That is something that I think could be very underrated about communicating with sick people is them being able to see you, you know?
Nick Kroll
Yeah. Be visually. Because they're sick and they can't. They're not moving around. Like they haven't seen as many people. Exactly. So. So, um. So it's. What is the name of the show? It's Dish.
Hayes Davenport
Make a Dish Foundation.
Nick Kroll
Make a Dish. Make a Dish Foundation. So what. So I think what it is, if I understand it right, is like we go in and we cook. Easy to make hot one pot meals in a hospital room. Serve it. And then we sort of give them some. A little tea. Some hot, little spicy. Little spicy little tea. Yeah. So I would happily do that. And if you guys want me to spill the tea, I will.
Sean Clements
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Hayes Davenport
It feels like he's gonna spill it for real. This is why we haven't had him on the show in 11 years.
Sean Clements
And it's. I literally have told you that Richie is insanely violent. He just made a mess in his studio. That's really bad.
Hayes Davenport
Like, what do you think he's doing? Like, he's not, like, doing anything else.
Sean Clements
Yeah, right. Why is he in here?
Nick Kroll
You don't mess with Richie Sambuca.
Hayes Davenport
You gonna come at your house? And now he's on Mike. I can't believe it. I can't believe Richie's actually talking to us on the show. God, this is awful.
Nick Kroll
Have you met Richie Samboro? I'm not. I go to the same, like, leather Scarf factory that he works at.
Sean Clements
Oh, nice.
Nick Kroll
Oh, he works there. It's not even where he shops. Yeah. It's just like he felt, you know, he got so into the craft of it, he just. It's like his throwing pottery.
Hayes Davenport
Wow.
Nick Kroll
That's where he just goes to kind of unwind.
Hayes Davenport
Leather scarves.
Sean Clements
Such a beautiful art form.
Hayes Davenport
That's it.
Nick Kroll
That's the tea that Richie Sambora makes. Leather scarves. Leather scarves himself. Yeah. And then reported everybody to ice.
Hayes Davenport
That's really the tea Richie Sambor reported everyone at the factory to ice.
Nick Kroll
Yeah.
Hayes Davenport
Oh, my God. So he would have more scarves for himself. He thinks that that's.
Nick Kroll
That's what he thought, but it was just like a bunch of other 80s rockers working in the factory and all
Sean Clements
of them also them going away. I have a feeling it's probably the kind of situation where. Probably the kind of situation where he thinks he's doing a lot of the scarf making, but there's a lot of people behind him.
Nick Kroll
There's a lot of. There's a lot.
Hayes Davenport
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Nick Kroll
He's like, oh, but he loves it.
Sean Clements
Yeah, yeah.
Hayes Davenport
Meeting Animals is on.
Sean Clements
Meeting Animals.
Hayes Davenport
Netflix all season, all season long.
Nick Kroll
Yeah. Mating Animals is on. Mating season. Mating season. Wait, what is it called?
Hayes Davenport
Mating Season.
Nick Kroll
Who is this, by the way?
Sean Clements
Mating season.
Hayes Davenport
Okay, so this is Richie Sambuca, First Brain.
Nick Kroll
Hey, how are you? Nice to meet you, man. Nice to meet you.
Sean Clements
Mating animals all season long.
Nick Kroll
Maning main Maning animals all season long.
Sean Clements
All season long.
Nick Kroll
On Peacock.
Sean Clements
And you can't skip it. No skipping, guys.
Nick Kroll
Completion rate.
Sean Clements
The completion rate is so important.
Nick Kroll
You talk to your spouse about completion rate.
Sean Clements
You know, we're in a bit of a no talking phase.
Hayes Davenport
The Aristocrats.
Nick Kroll
This is an I heart podcast.
Hayes Davenport
Guaranteed human.
Podcast: Hollywood Handbook
Host: iHeartPodcasts
Release Date: May 5, 2026
Guests: Nick Kroll
Duration Covered: Main content (~00:00–40:46)
In this chaotic, razor-sharp, and delightfully absurd episode of Hollywood Handbook, hosts Sean Clements and Hayes Davenport welcome comedian, writer, and actor Nick Kroll for a sprawling riff-fest across everything from viral clips and social media synergy to Hollywood’s secret economies, speculative business ideas, and the surreal realities (and virtual realities) of show business. Kroll’s signature quick wit matches the hosts in a volley of running bits—about puppy mills, VR ranches, “symbiotic” relationships, and the meta-business of being funny in Hollywood.
[00:37–04:12] The show kicks off with a surreal exploration of a “virtual reality ranch” concept, riffing on the difference between VR and “meatspace.”
Augmented Reality vs. Virtual Reality explained with Pokémon references
[16:59–20:15] Outlines the “tub” of representation—room for many managers, deals, and collaboration (including the enigmatic killer “Richie Sambuca”).
“Goldfish” Brain
Filson Shirt Sizing
[21:16–33:53]
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The entire episode is delivered in the signature, meta-comedic, fast-joking style of Hollywood Handbook—bit-laden, knowingly absurd, and full of inside jokes about the “biz,” with Nick Kroll fitting right into the running satire. The tone veers between silly, cynical, and occasionally sweet when talking legacy and process, but always irreverent.
This episode is a winding, riotously funny conversation that zigzags from speculative business ideas and the machinery of “content” to animated puppy mills, animal sex, TV nostalgia, and reflections on fame. Nick Kroll and the hosts maintain a volley of riffs and comedic archeology, poking at the realities of Hollywood and the meta-culture around podcasts, clips, and “entrepreneurial” comedy. If you appreciate intricate comedic banter and surreal scenarios, this episode is a prime example of the Hollywood Handbook machine in full effect.