01-02-26 - Emailer Says He's Breaking Up w/His Mean Pregnant GF Today And We Wonder How We'd Do It - BO

Summary

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Holmberg's Morning Sickness – Arizona

Episode Title: Emailer Says He's Breaking Up w/His Mean Pregnant GF Today And We Wonder How We'd Do It
Airdate: January 2, 2026
Hosts: John Holmberg, Brady Bogen, Bret Vesely, Dick Toledo, and guests
Focus: A listener email sparks a wild, candid debate about breaking up with a pregnant partner, navigating relationship craziness, and notorious fugitives.

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Episode Overview

This episode pivots around a provocative email from a listener seeking advice: he's planning to break up with his pregnant girlfriend, who he claims has become "mean" and "violent" since becoming pregnant. Holmberg and the crew dig into whether, when, and how you can ethically exit such a relationship, weaving in dark humor, personal anecdotes, and even detours into infamous criminal absconders. The conversation is raw and irreverent, as the team weighs practical (if hilarious) options for coping with tough situations.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. The Email: Breaking Up with a Pregnant Partner ([01:06])

• Listener "GH" writes in:

  • He's four months into his girlfriend's pregnancy and claims she has turned volatile.
  • He intends to end the relationship but vows to care for the child.
  • He's oddly fearful for his safety, joking that any "mysterious death" should be noted.

• Panel Reaction:

  • General consensus: breaking up with a pregnant woman is incredibly risky, both emotionally and logistically.
  • Holmberg wonders if the situation could get more dangerous after the breakup.

Quote:

"Breaking up with a pregnant lady at four months isn't exactly going to make her more stable, though. If she's nuts and you're still there, I think this weekend might be a bad plan." — John Holmberg [02:12]

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2. How to (Not) Break Up with a Pregnant Woman ([02:12–04:22])

• Hormones and Behavior:

  • Brett acknowledges that pregnancy hormones can cause volatility.
  • Wedge shares his own war stories:

    "My ex wife was mean as a snake when she was pregnant... Now take that and amplify it with pregnancy hormones." — Wedge [02:47]

• Leaving vs. Sticking It Out:

  • Strong advice to tolerate the situation rather than leave—at least while she's pregnant.
  • Humorous alternative strategies are offered:
    • Disappear temporarily
    • Avoid triggering further instability
    • Just "tolerate it" for now

• Documenting the Crazy:

  • Holmberg suggests keeping detailed records of erratic behavior for future use in custody battles or court.

Quote:

"That's what I would say. Start documenting here at month four. Start documenting all the things that she's done. Crazy." — John Holmberg [05:26]

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3. Absurd Escape Fantasies ([04:55; 05:43; 07:02])

• Robert Fisher Reference:

  • Multiple jokes about "Robert Fisher-ing" the situation, referencing the infamous Arizona fugitive who vanished after a family tragedy.
  • Clearly, no one condones the behavior, but it serves as dark comedic relief.

• How to Get Her to Break Up First:

  • Suggest "low-key sabotage":
    • Feign losing your job
    • Behave just poorly enough to inspire her to end it

Quote:

"Get her to break up with you. Do something. Don't go crazy like start hosing hookers. Just start—"
"Tell her you lost your job."
— John Holmberg & Wedge [07:04–07:15]

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4. The Ethics and Practicalities ([09:04; 09:17; 09:40])

• Moral Responsibility:

  • Holmberg compares leaving a pregnant woman to leaving someone right after a serious medical diagnosis:

  "That's like breaking up with somebody who, like, gets a disease because pregnancy is an illness. ... You got at least stick out a year after the diagnosis." — John Holmberg [09:40]

  • The risk of becoming the villain in the long term is discussed:
    • The ex could weaponize the breakup in custody or parental alienation.
    • The legacy of the split lingers far beyond the moment.

• It Might Get Worse:

  • What if things don't level out?
  • Awareness of postpartum issues is raised ("what if she gets the postpartum and starts trying to murder everybody?").

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5. Infamous Criminals as Metaphor ([10:18–13:38])

• Robert Fisher & John List:
  • Tangential but fitting, the hosts riff on infamous men who vanished after killing their families, tying the escape fantasy back to how bad situations can spiral.
  • The conversation highlights the sometimes-comic, sometimes-dark temptation to "just disappear" when life gets tough.

Quote:

"We've all thought about blowing the house up... but then I'd think, well, I don't have the skills after that. I'm gonna end up in jail. I don't wanna." — John Holmberg [12:10]

• Forensic Science Sidebar:
  • Fascination with how John List was caught using a forensic artist's paper mache model sparks a fun aside on guilt and aging in fugitives.

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6. Listener Feedback & Self-Awareness ([13:40–16:31])

• Critical Listener Email:
  • A listener complains about Holmberg's "worrying about other people's lives."
  • Holmberg fires back, embracing the premise of the show as "social commentary" and defending their approach.

Quote:

"The whole point of this show is that I gotta worry about other people's lives. ... It's social commentary. You gotta care about other people's lives. God, I hate that guy. I don't even know who that is. I hope you die in the canyon. I hope you get Robert. I hope that guy gets Robert Fishered today." — John Holmberg [14:13]

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• "If you think she's gone nuts now, this is with you still there... Don't break up with her. Just don't show up anymore. Or sit there and tolerate it." — John Holmberg [02:30]
• "Did you think you were going to leave? Like, did it run through? Oh, God no. She'd hunt me down.” — Wedge [03:50–03:54]
• "You have to have his training. There are two people that are Robert Fisher and D.B. Cooper. The only ones that were... I don't have those skills." — John Holmberg [06:03]
• “Babies don’t make women crazy. It just awakens the beast that was always living in them. Good point.” — John Holmberg, reading email [13:40]
• "That's like breaking up with somebody who, like, gets a disease because pregnancy is an illness. ... It’s curable, but it lingers for at least 18, 20 years." — John Holmberg [09:40]

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Segment Timestamps

• [01:06] – Reading of GH's email and panel's first reactions
• [02:12–04:22] – Brainstorming "the right move," hormones, and horror stories
• [05:26] – Advice: start documenting the craziness
• [05:43–07:32] – The “Robert Fisher” escape plan banter and how to get dumped instead
• [09:04–10:18] – Ethical metaphors and seriousness for GH's dilemma
• [10:18–13:38] – Infamous criminals, escape fantasies, and forensic science stories
• [13:40–16:31] – Listener feedback and John’s rant about the purpose of the show

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Tone

The conversation is irreverent, unfiltered, and laced with the group’s signature mix of deadpan sarcasm and gallows humor. While they address real anxieties and terrible relationship scenarios, the hosts keep things light by leaning on outrageous hypotheticals and callbacks to infamous cases.

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Takeaway Summary

The crew’s ultimate (though semi-serious) advice:
Don’t break up with your pregnant partner at four months, no matter how “crazy” things have gotten. Hang in there, document behavior, and—if things truly go south—try to maneuver events so she breaks up with you first. All the while, maintain a sense of humor... and maybe avoid taking relationship tips from fugitives.

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Transcript

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[John Holberg]

The best of the morning sickness is on the air. Do any of you people do any actual work? The best of Holmberg's morning sickness. Then you got this guy another one. This email came this morning, says, I just wanted you guys on my favorite show to know that if you hear about a mysterious death this weekend of a man whose girlfriend is four months pregnant, it wasn't mysterious, it's murder. My chick has gone crazy and I'm breaking up with her on Saturday. She is four months pregnant. I'm going to take care of the kid. That's not the issue. I don't know what's happened to her since she's become pregnant. She has lost her mind, she's violent, she's mean, and I hate her. I will not name names because if she hears this before I dump her, she'll preemptively strike and possibly kill me. So just pay attention to the news for my sake. She's gone insane. Gh. So if there's a story on the news this weekend of a crying pregnant woman and her dead husband and the initials happen to be GH we know. We know. We're on. We're on the case. Thanks for the update. Staying out of this.

[Brett]

GH okay.

[John Holberg]

Breaking up with a pregnant lady at four months isn't exactly going to make her more stable, though if she's nuts and you're still there, I think this weekend might Be a bad plan. I think maybe you should just start ignoring her. Leave now.

[Brett]

Well, if you hormones, you know, when they're pregnant can jump around, but yeah, I think it will make matters worse.

[John Holberg]

But if you think she's gone nuts now, this is with you still there. I think Brett's right. If you just disappear for a while, but make it so she can't find you. Don't break up with her. Just don't show up anymore. Or sit there and tolerate it.

[Brett]

Then there's after the fact.

[John Holberg]

Yeah. Oh, you're gonna have to see her again. Yeah.

[Wedge]

Pardon me because I've got the cold sweats. My ex wife was mean as a snake when she was pregnant.

[John Holberg]

And when she wasn't.

[Wedge]

Now take that and amplify it with pregnancy hormones.

[John Holberg]

I've heard the calls.

[Wedge]

I know.

[John Holberg]

Yeah, she wasn't pregnant when she was screaming it. No, no call.

[Wedge]

Yeah, I think she was barren at that.

[John Holberg]

But she. She birthed out. That was a good.

[Brett]

That was a good day, that call for Toledo.

[John Holberg]

Oh, yeah. It was a bad day for Chad. Yeah, Chad was the one. That's right. I'll never forget that. I got a call from someone else, dude. I got a voicemail from Toledo's wife and I think she. She butt dialed me and it is insane. And he sent it to me and I'm like, whoa. She was losing her mind. And I thought. And then I sent it to you and you're like, yep, that's about right. When she gave birth, she just launched out all the birthing materials too. Baby, ovaries, uterus.

[Wedge]

Now imagine her uncomfortable. Can't move because she's pregnant. She's got a giant headed baby inside of her.

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Did you think you have to live with her?

[John Holberg]

Did you think you were going to leave? Like, did it run through? Oh, God no.

[Wedge]

She'd hunt me down.

[John Holberg]

See, that's the thing I'm worried about. Take Toledo's advice.

[Brett]

Stay.

[John Holberg]

Stick around through the pregnancy. Yeah. Hold.

[Byron from MMP Guns]

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[John Holberg]

Hold.

[Wedge]

I can't do it.

[John Holberg]

Get out of here, Wedge. You're no good to us. Hold.

[Brett]

Stay on target.

[John Holberg]

Yeah, just. Exactly. Just. I don't think it's a good idea to leave a pregnant lady who's already shown. Like, the reason you want to leave her is because she's nuts because she's pregnant. You leaving is not gonna help.

[Brett]

Makes it worse.

[John Holberg]

You way worse. You have to keep dealing with her.

[Wedge]

You have to sympathize with the guy because this is four months in, he's got five more to go.

[John Holberg]

Well, unless if he gets lucky and it preemies up. Well, no, I mean, she might pre me. You can start rooting for her. You still got take her to the canyon.

[Wedge]

You still got four months. In that case, it could level out.

[John Holberg]

That's true. If all things go the way they're supposed to. I mean, I'd have her in like bounce houses and jump arounds. I'd be taking her four wheeling every week. And we're gonna get this thing shook out. I'm gonna. She's like a can of Dr. Pepper. I'm shaking that thing until it pops.

[Brett]

And getting those baby classes.

[John Holberg]

Lamaze.

[Brett]

Yeah.

[John Holberg]

I don't know if she's.

[Wedge]

I don't gonna take her to a class. You're smoking crack.

[John Holberg]

Yeah, yeah. You don't take the crazy ones.

[Wedge]

Yell at the instructor.

[John Holberg]

I think it is the, you know, upon further review, probably not the best option to, you know, throw a little gas on the fire that's already kind of smoldering. Yeah, I wouldn't break up with the pregnant girl you got because it's never gonna go away. And then she's gonna use the kid as leverage because you left while she was pregnant. Document. That's what I would say. Start documenting here at month four. Start documenting all the things that she's done. Crazy.

[Wedge]

Unless you're like one of those dudes on those bad detective shows that's got a guy that can get you documents, new new id, new identification. You can just disappear. She'll find you.

[John Holberg]

Yeah, if you can go full on. Better call Saul.

[Brett Vesely]

You need to robber Fisher this.

[John Holberg]

No, no, no, no, no. Don't take that. That's the Italian's advice. What? What are you talking about? For those who don't know, that's. The suggestion would be to blow up the house and use black ops to never be found again. I'm sorry it's a gold mine in your brain, but tactically, you're not 18.

[Brett Vesely]

Years of that nightmare.

[John Holberg]

No way.

[Wedge]

But Brett, how do we know Robert Fisherman?

[John Holberg]

Brett, I'm with you. If I could Robert Fisher, I would. Robert Fisher. Several times a day. Oh, there's so many. Like, sometimes I'm just upset at the guy at qt. I'd like to Robert Fisher, just blow the whole place up and go to the woods. But yeah, it's. You have to have his training. There are two people that are Robert Fisher and D.B. cooper. The only ones that were pretty sure I don't have those skills. I get caught on Shea and McDowell, probably because I'd be like, all Right, Right. Before I disappear in the woods, I better hit the casino. They'd find me fast. So it's a good idea to blow up the house and then run, if you have those kind of skills. Otherwise, stick it out and start getting emails back and forth. Email her today and go. Look, I know you're going through a lot right now, but when you said blah, blah, blah, and like, details of your last crazy argument, make it so you get all her points and then she'll fire back. Like what? Toledo's ex would do something even more loony. And now you got paperwork.

[Wedge]

That's why you got a blind copy of Friends.

[John Holberg]

Yeah, and also get her to break up with you. Don't you leave. Get her to break up with you. Do something. Don't go crazy like start hosing hookers. Just start.

[Wedge]

Tell her you lost your job.

[John Holberg]

Oh, that's not bad. Go get training.

[Brett Vesely]

Screw that.

[Wedge]

Well, you didn't really lose your job. Just tell her you did.

[John Holberg]

Yeah, and I'm going to spend eight hours a day looking for a new job every day, and then just go to your regular job and start collecting. I don't know. Don't leave her. Don't drag us into this either.

[Brett Vesely]

Should have called Dr. Lynn, pal.

[John Holberg]

Yep, that's. We've been. You know what? For years we've been telling you to avoid this whole thing. And imagine that this lunatic's now gonna raise a kid to hate you. Oh, and you gotta pay for that. Next thing you know, you're 92, you're in the bottom of the Grand Canyon with some kid that you thought you did right by, and he and his son, your grandson, are trying to kill you for your. Whatever you've done. GH. Don't do it. Merry effing holidays from the Big Red Radio.

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[John Holberg]

Holmberg's morning sickness. I don't know who you are, and I don't know what it is, but I think staying. You got to stay put for the next couple months and make this right. If she breaks up with you, that's okay, but you can't dump her at four months. You can't.

[Brett]

You know, does it help to know that there's guys, a lot of guys that have gone through that. Oh, that it leveled. It either leveled out or just, you.

[John Holberg]

Know, the behavior that you don't have to understand, it lives forever. And then you got the kid, and she's not going to be better. And what if she doesn't level out? Like, you're thinking of Pollyanna's way? What if she gets the postpartum and starts trying to murder everybody?

[Brett]

And, I mean.

[John Holberg]

But I agree that you can't leave a pregnant. That's like breaking up with somebody who, like, gets a disease because pregnancy is an illness. That's why you got to go to the hospital so often. It's a disease, and it's curable, but it lingers for at least 18, 20 years. But, like, if she ended up with, like, you know, I don't know, sickle cell or Ms. Or something like that, and you broke up with her. First symptoms. You're a jerk. You got at least stick out a year after the diagnosis, because otherwise.

[Brett]

And you got to let her know up front, you know, look, I'm gonna give this a year, and after a year, I'm out of here.

[John Holberg]

Okay? Was it Newt Gingrich?

[Brett]

I'm hanging with you.

[John Holberg]

Newt Gingrich found out his wife had cancer and she was dying of it. Remember that? And then he went to the hospital with his mistress because he's like, well, he already was that nude or was that. Well, there was a couple of them. I think John Edwards did it, too. Yeah. John Edwards. Newt Gingrich did It. There were a few guys who were like, that had side. Side action. Did Rudy. Oh, Rudy's. He doesn't count. Yeah, I'm gonna say yes because it's horrible. So I assume Rudy Giuliani did that. If it's awful. Probably under his. Under his time. Yeah. But you know, you find out that your spouse has something terrible, you can't break up four months after the diagnosis. You got to stick around at least a year. And I think the same with it with a pregnancy or Robert Fisher or Robert Fisher is an option. For those of you well trained enough to Robert Fisher. I mean, we laugh, but if you had the Robert Fisher. How often. If you had Robert Fisher's skills, this is a really dark moment. But if you were trained like Robert Fisher was, what kind of balls did that wife have to start making him think, you know, I could blow this whole thing up and leave and no one would ever know. Like, you know, Robert Fisher had the Robert Fisher skills. Oh, yeah, if I had if. Like, if, if.

[Brett]

And how long did he plan it out?

[John Holberg]

Not long, because he was like, well, I mean, he had the skills. It was like mapped out in his brain the whole time. Like he has a bug out plan of safety before he even knew things went sideways. But if you are. If you're married to like a guy like Robert Fisher and you start getting a little bit lippy, you know the risks you're taking, this dude knows he can get away with it. Like, I can take care of this all day. Now it turns out he's a horrible person for having done it, but something led him to it. Not saying I condone it, but we've all thought about blowing the house up. We just thought, well, but then, what.

[Brett Vesely]

A bitch she was.

[John Holberg]

Right. Right. Exactly what I'm saying. Like, somebody caused this. And then you said, because I thought, I'm gonna blow the whole house up and nobody's ever gonna. But then I'd think, well, I don't have the skills after that. I'm gonna end up in jail. I don't wanna. This guy was like, and I can blow the house up and no one will ever find. How many years ago was that now? Like 30. And the dude on the news said it, we're looking for Robert Fisher. We found his truck. And they're like, what do you think of the evidence? And he goes, robert Fisher's training is so extreme that there's a good chance we're never gonna find it. That was the first day they found the truck. They're like, nah, he's gone. They knew. That means there's training out there that everyone's aware of that makes it so. Oh, he's doing that thing. He's gone.

[Brett Vesely]

There you go.

[John Holberg]

There's a guy named John. I want to say John Locke, but that's a philosopher. His main may have been. John Locke disappeared after he killed his family 27 years. Started a whole new life in Iowa as a pastor. Got a new wife. They're rolling around. They found him on America's Most Wanted 27 years after he slaughtered his whole family. I think it was John Locke. I think that's right.

[Brett]

Is that the one? I mean, just was last year, like in the fall, there's a guy that was gone for that amount of time. There's a couple finally.

[John Holberg]

Yeah, they surface him. Yeah, there's a few. But John Locke was one. They found him because of a paper mache head they made on what they thought he looked like now. It was amazing. It was the first time they had those scientific forensic artists saying, here's how we think he probably aged. And one of the things are like, he'd want to hide his face.

[Brett]

Hey, I think I know that.

[John Holberg]

Had these big Harry Cary glasses. Because the forensic scientist or the scientist was like, eh, he's got guilt in his body. He can't help it whether you're a sociopath or whatever. So he's gonna want to like have a disguise without it being a disguise. So if he's wearing glasses, I bet you those got real big. So they build this little paper mache head like a kid would in fifth grade, put these massive glasses on. And then the guy goes. And also after years and years of the guilt weighing on you, your lips will start to naturally frown on their own. And that's like a. Like. So they kind of pull this clay lips down a little bit. And then they put it up there. And John Walsh is like, all right, this is what they think he looks like. Within like an hour, somebody's calling going, that's our pastor. And they showed a picture of him. It was perfect. If you look it up online, it's. It's amazing how good they did. It's like they knew. It almost feels like they knew. And they're like, let's just pretend we built this. So that's how like he thought he Robert Fisher. This one says, babies don't make women crazy. It just awakens the beast that was always living in them. Good point. That is true. This guy says two days in a row of John being a complete Worry about your own life, dip. Well, what did you just do with your email, jackass? Worry about your own life, dip. I better email in and tell him I don't like what he's saying. Oh, okay. What are you doing? Then go listen to something else. You stick. I'm tired of people like you. Say hi to Beth. Yeah, go say hi to Beth. Listen to someone else. John List. That's his name, not John Locke. Was a philosopher. John List. The whole point of this show is that I gotta worry about other people's lives. Although if I just sat back and said, I didn't do much yesterday. Anyway, we'll be right back. It would be pretty boring, you idiot. Because you don't have a creative bone in your body. You don't understand what this whole thing is. It's social commentary. You gotta care about other people's lives. God, I hate that guy. I don't even know who that is. I hope you die in the canyon. I hope you get Robert. I hope that guy gets Robert Fisher today. Two days in a row. You talking about other people. What do you listen for? You hard. Go away. Go away. Leave. Get out of my store. No soup for you, idiot. Anyway, some people ruin things. That's why Robert Fisher was like, I don't condone it, but I understand it. He's mad because he's trying to kill us. You know what that guy is? He's a dude that's been telling people, when my grandpa dies, I get a billion dollars. That's why he's mad. Worry about your own life. Yeah, it's because. Why don't you go get a job? That's worth it, you dick.

[Brett]

Push the button, change the channel.

[John Holberg]

Yeah, it's easy. Oh, I like that. He's saying that my grandpa dies, I get his inheritance. That's what he's. I hit a nerve with that idiot.

[Brett]

Find that station, call in and say, how many numbers you got through the 10 item minimum?

[John Holberg]

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