01-08-26 - Thursdays w/Former Dallas Cowboy OLineman Dale Hellestrae - Will Dale Meet Up w/Former Teammate Michael Irvin While He's In Town - Thoughts On NFL Coaches Fired Thus Far - Picks For NFL Wild Card Round

Summary

Holmberg's Morning Sickness: Thursdays with Dale Hellestrae (01-08-26)

Overview

In this lively episode, John Holmberg, Brady Bogen, Bret Vesely, and Dick Toledo welcome former Dallas Cowboys lineman Dale Hellestrae for their recurring “Thursday” segment. As always, Dale dishes on NFL news, reminisces about his playing days, and banters with the crew about the Phoenix Suns, the drama around NFL coaching changes, and this week's playoff picks. The show blends humor, nostalgia, and insightful commentary on Arizona sports and beyond.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

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1. The Joy of Victory (Ravens-Steelers Aftermath)

Timestamp: 00:53–01:41, 08:32–09:12, 13:17–14:00

• John’s elation after the Ravens loss is on full display, much to Dale’s amusement.
• “When I think about the Ravens...I get real happy. Tripp even goes, ‘Jesus. It's intolerable, your happiness.’” (Holmberg, 00:56)
• Dale jokes about John “floating” into work after his team’s win.
• Reflects on Dale’s brief Raven stint, with ribbing about a botched snap:
  • “My favorite part of your career is you flopping the ball all over the field for the Ravens.” (Holmberg, 09:01)
  • Dale acknowledges his poor first game, but insists he got better.

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2. Dallas Cowboys Reunion: Will Dale Hang with Michael Irvin?

Timestamp: 01:49–04:11, 10:15–11:07

• Dale and Michael Irvin keep in touch (“We texted yesterday,” Dale, 01:59) but Dale avoids legendary Cowboys nightlife.
• “He’s got 10 times as much energy as I do...He tends to go places that I do not frequent.” (Hellestrae, 02:09)
• Running jokes about Phoenix clubs like the fictional “Boom Boom Room” and being out of place as old, white Cowboys.
• “It wouldn't be that I wouldn't be welcome. It would be uncomfortable for everyone in there to go, what's he doing here? I look like a narc.” (Holmberg, 03:14)

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3. Phoenix Suns Banter: Flow, Hustle, and Hope

Timestamp: 06:09–08:27, 34:02–34:38

• John and Dale revel in the improved “flow” and persistent motion of this Suns squad.
• “For the first time in four years, we're watching flow...I haven't recognized what flow looks like for four years.” (Holmberg, 06:10)
• Dale emphasizes hustle and effort, praising the new attitude and coach Jordan Ott, whom John quips “looks like a Netflix serial killer.” (Holmberg, 07:20)
• They hope Jalen Green’s return will boost the team further and caution against unnecessary trades:
  • “Don’t move a single player and wait for Jalen Green to come back…It’s like adding a player.” (Holmberg, 08:02)
• The Suns’ camaraderie is reminiscent of the Finals run: “They really like playing with each other.” (Hellestrae, 08:14)

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4. NFL Coaching Carousel: Critique and Predictions

Timestamp: 14:33–21:10, 32:53–33:53

• The crew bemoans the rapid-fire coach firings (25 NFL teams without their coach at one point):
  • “They're firing everybody like crazy after two or three years.” (Holmberg, 14:38)
• Criticism of teams recycling questionable candidates (e.g., Matt Nagy for Cardinals).
• Dale and John brainstorm ideal hires:
  • Harbaugh: “No way,” but maybe a dream target.
  • Jon Gruden: “He would. It would be perfect...Even if it doesn’t go well on the field, you’ve revamped how the thinking goes.” (Holmberg, 18:41/18:46)
  • Mike McCarthy: “Wins, wins, wins. He's got the same resume as John Harbaugh.” (Holmberg, 16:42)
• They agree the Cardinals won’t land a big name unless owner Michael Bidwill radically changes philosophy, with Dale noting: “Is Michael Bidwell willing to do that? History says no.” (Hellestrae, 18:18)
• Parallels to Buddy Ryan hire (“I’m the star” mentality)—Gruden would outdo Ryan.

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5. Wild Card & NFL Playoff Picks

Timestamp: 24:48–31:43

• The crew runs through playoff matchups and makes their “six-leg” parlay picks:
  • Bears over Packers (Bret)
  • Panthers +10.5 vs Rams (Brady)
  • Jaguars over Bills (Dale: “The way that Jacksonville's played of late...I'm going with the Jags.” 29:22)
  • Eagles over Niners
  • Patriots over Chargers
  • Steelers +3 vs Ravens (John: “I'm taking plus three on my Steelers right there.” 31:17)
• The potential payout is $3,000, with playful squabbling over profit-sharing.

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6. Steelers Fandom: Rituals and Superstitions

Timestamp: 21:01–23:40, 36:36–39:10

• John boasts about the Steelers’ Monday night home streak (23–0).
• Dale ribs John over superstitious game gatherings and the presence (or absence) of certain friends.
• “If he show up. Yeah. Do the entertainment drill next. It’s 98.” (Holmberg, 39:26)
• Postgame emotional rollercoaster:
  • “I cannot deal with this anymore. And I’m saying goodbye to my Steeler friends…having a massive heart attack.” (Holmberg, reading his own text, 38:21)
• The group debates football pain and ecstasy—Steelers’ and Ravens’ fans alike.

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7. Comic Relief & Classic Holmberg Off-Topic Tangents

Timestamp: 04:58–05:50, 35:06–36:32

• Banter about “hot” mother-daughter Instagram duos versus incest taboos.
  • “Both of them are independently beautiful. Together, it’s incest.” (Holmberg, 05:04)
• Running gags about multi-erection etiquette, weird internet content, Brett’s taste, and Dale’s cussing.
• Dale quips: “I have a one-erection per room rule. That is a huge rule for me.” (Holmberg, 36:19/36:28)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Suns rebirth:
  • “For the first time in four years, we're watching flow…” (Holmberg, 06:10)
• On NFL coaching futility:
  • “The Cardinals are so delusional to believe that any of these high end candidates want to come here.” (Holmberg, 16:21)
• On the “Boom Boom Room”:
  • “I look like a narc, so I’m gonna ask you to leave.” (Holmberg, 03:14)
• On Steelers’ playoff agony:
  • “I cannot deal with this anymore. And I’m saying goodbye to my Steeler friends…I'm having a massive heart attack.” (Holmberg, 38:21)

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• Ravens-Steelers banter: 00:53–01:41, 08:32–09:12
• Dallas Cowboys/Michael Irvin segment: 01:49–04:11
• Phoenix Suns talk: 06:09–08:27, 34:02–34:38
• NFL Coaches Carousel: 14:33–21:10
• Wild Card Picks: 24:48–31:43
• Steelers streak, superstitions, and heartbreak: 21:01–23:40, 36:36–39:10
• Comic Relief (Instagram, cussing, etc.): 04:58–05:50, 35:06–36:32

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Tone and Language

The episode is in typical HMS style—irreverent, self-deprecating, full of friendly jabs, inside jokes, and Arizona sports fandom. The football analysis is playful but informed, with Dale providing the ex-player’s insight and Holmberg steering the conversation with jokes and passionate diatribes.

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Summary

For fans who missed this episode: it’s a raucous blend of football nostalgia, sharp sports commentary, Phoenix sports optimism, and the kind of locker-room humor that makes HMS a Valley staple. Dale Hellestrae stands as the straight-talking, dryly funny ex-pro; Holmberg, the exuberant, obsessive fan. Together, they dissect Arizona’s coaching fantasy land, debate which civic curse is worse (Jets or Cardinals), make their playoff picks, and, as always, tease each other mercilessly—whether about sports, TV musicals, or etiquette for mother-daughter Instagram duos.

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For full picks, details on the Steelers’ emotional trauma, and Sun’s optimism, jump to [24:48–34:38]. For classic Dale and John tangents, tune in anytime.

Transcript

[John Holmberg]

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[Dale Hellestra]

Morning sickness.

[John Holmberg]

You've been deceived by an agent of Satan himself. He's evil sitting right here.

[Dale Hellestra]

Come on. No, no, he's not.

[John Holmberg]

He's not evil. He's just a bit rude.

[Dale Hellestra]

98.

[John Holmberg]

Can't do that crap. All right.

[Dale Hellestra]

Well, John, are you still walking on cloud nine?

[John Holmberg]

I'm pretty happy, Dale. Thursday. I'm coming down a little bit because, you know, the weather ain't helping and all that, but I. I'm still. When I think about the Ravens and st. I get real happy. And Tripp even goes, Jesus. It's intolerable, your happiness.

[Dale Hellestra]

It is. You walked into our place on Tuesday, and I was like, whoa.

[John Holmberg]

You. First thing you saw?

[Dale Hellestra]

I got a magic carper floating.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah. I was like Aladdin. Oh, boys.

[Dale Hellestra]

Like, you're in love again.

[John Holmberg]

I brought donuts. I brought slushies. I was so happy. I'm still happy. And when I. And look, when I'm. When I'm feeling a little down, Dale, I just go to my phone and I take a. I take a look at one of my favorite things ever. A picture of Derek Henry. As the kick goes past the uprights. It's.

[Dale Hellestra]

I love that meme. You sent me that. If it goes through the uprights.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah, Fire Mike Tomlin.

[Dale Hellestra]

Tom is gone. Either side. Harbaugh's gone.

[John Holmberg]

It's a tough one. Dale Hellestra is here, former Dallas Cowboy, three time world champion, and hopefully babysitter of Michael Irvin tonight in the next couple of days. Because he's here, right? Have you talked to him?

[Dale Hellestra]

We texted yesterday.

[John Holmberg]

Are you guys hanging out?

[Dale Hellestra]

I don't hang out with Michael.

[Brady]

I thought there was a chance.

[Dale Hellestra]

Why? Oh, he go.

[John Holmberg]

He.

[Dale Hellestra]

He's. First of all, he's got 10 times as much energy as I do. That's true. He tends to go places that I do not Frequent.

[John Holmberg]

They're gonna go to the Boom Boom.

[Dale Hellestra]

The Boom Boom Room? Yeah.

[John Holmberg]

He likes the Boom Boom Room.

[Dale Hellestra]

Is there such thing as a Boom?

[John Holmberg]

Yeah, it's McDowell and 16th Street. I want to go in there really bad, but I'm. I. I don't think I'm wanted.

[Dale Hellestra]

Oh, really? Okay. I don't know.

[John Holmberg]

Michael. Have Dale set it up. Would Michael Irvin go? Hey, look, I can roll with the big boys. I'll go out with Michael Irvin and the gang.

[Dale Hellestra]

Well, the game. Games tonight, right? That thing won't be over. Well, it starts at 5:30. Yeah, they'll be overrun. 10 o'. Clock.

[John Holmberg]

But it'll be in the West Valley.

[Dale Hellestra]

Yeah, but they'll make their way. They're not staying.

[John Holmberg]

Could meet Michael and the gang at the Rah Rah Room. Rah Rah. We'll go to Rah Rah Room. I'll get him some meat and we'll.

[Dale Hellestra]

Head over to Boom.

[John Holmberg]

No, I'll. I'll cover it.

[Dale Hellestra]

You will? So long. You.

[John Holmberg]

You can come with. And you cover too.

[Dale Hellestra]

Yeah.

[John Holmberg]

And then we'll roll over to the Boom Boom Room on 16th and you and I will go. No one will even notice.

[Dale Hellestra]

Right.

[John Holmberg]

Our glowing white asses in there. And Michael Irvin's with us.

[Dale Hellestra]

Is it Boom Room?

[John Holmberg]

No, it is not. It's just a really cool club that.

[Dale Hellestra]

That you're not welcome.

[John Holmberg]

That prop. I would be welcome. But remember that scene in Animal House? Yeah. That's the Boom Boom. I look way too much like a cop for them to be. It wouldn't be that I wouldn't be welcome. It would be uncomfortable for everyone in there to go, what's he doing here? I look like a narc, so I'm.

[Brady]

Gonna ask you to leave.

[John Holmberg]

I'd be fine, but everybody else would be like, all right.

[Dale Hellestra]

Yeah.

[John Holmberg]

He's killing the room. I killed the vibe.

[Dale Hellestra]

Yes. And you've done that.

[John Holmberg]

Oh, sure. I know when I'm doing it. I am highly aware when I'm like, hey, guys, I'm wrecking this place and it ain't got Michael with you. You're not ruining nothing. All I am is his albino friend. They might think I'm like, I'm with Michael Daryl Johnson or something. You don't know I'm with Michael. Yeah, they'll be like his white friend. Must. Must be a cowboy too, or something.

[Dale Hellestra]

I don't know.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah, but it would be. You're not hanging out with him. That's weird.

[Dale Hellestra]

No, everybody kind of knows that there's a Separation of state and power and religion and. And all that. That's why I never knew where the White House was.

[John Holmberg]

You weren't allowed to go to the sex dungeon. Right, that the Cowboys bought because cowboy players. Right.

[Dale Hellestra]

Okay.

[John Holmberg]

You weren't allowed.

[Dale Hellestra]

I mean, they had John Holberg money. I mean, you own a couple houses. Your wife doesn't even know.

[John Holmberg]

No, no.

[Dale Hellestra]

Yeah, it's true.

[John Holmberg]

I have a white house.

[Brady]

It's.

[John Holmberg]

It's white. For reasons that are different than that one. It's just me. And their painting, Dale, is brought to you by our friends over at diamond coatings. Diamond coatings. AZ.com is where you go. I'm having them come out, take care of some outdoor countertops. The sun has gotten to. They've got a plan for that. They already did my sport court. If you've got pavers, a garage floor, your driveway, anything that you have a surface, they can make it look better. Check them out. Diamond coatings AZ.com. let's talk, Dale. Let's talk sports. First off, let's talk about what Brett was showing you when you walked in the room, which was an Instagram girl dancing with her mother.

[Dale Hellestra]

Yes.

[John Holmberg]

And you asked me, yes. Mother, daughter, hot, Right?

[Dale Hellestra]

Yeah.

[John Holmberg]

And I said no.

[Dale Hellestra]

Right.

[John Holmberg]

Both of them are independently beautiful together. It's incest.

[Dale Hellestra]

Yeah. And I. I know. I. I did not know you had lines.

[John Holmberg]

That is. You should have that line.

[Dale Hellestra]

No, I have lines. I didn't think you had lies.

[John Holmberg]

You didn't a second ago. Who's with me on this one? That he was.

[Dale Hellestra]

He was propagating the mother, daughter say what stays. What goes on off air, stays. What's your demand? To have your show on. On TV or whatever it is.

[John Holmberg]

What are you talking about? Oh, I have the thing. We'll put the cameras up, but when.

[Dale Hellestra]

We'Re off the air, yes, it stays off.

[John Holmberg]

But that's because of Brett, not because of you and I talking. All I wanted to do is teach you how wrong incest is, and you can't talk about that stuff.

[Dale Hellestra]

Please.

[John Holmberg]

If. If you've crossed the line with me, you've crossed a line that is.

[Dale Hellestra]

That. That is something that I never thought I could do.

[John Holmberg]

Never knew there was a line. When you see me go. That is enough. You have gone so far past the line. Let's talk first off, we'll get it out of the way. So. Suns are a blast. How much fun it was, but watching Kevin Durant beat him the other night was a killer. And. But I talked to Kevin Ray last night during the Game.

[Dale Hellestra]

Yeah.

[John Holmberg]

And I said, first off, I figured out why they're fun. The Suns are fun, because for the first time in four years, we're watching flow.

[Dale Hellestra]

The team. The ball doesn't get stopped, the team doesn't stop.

[John Holmberg]

And I'm like, oh, that's what's been missing. It's moving and everyone's moving, and there's a. It's not like jammed in a corner, and then they just pop it out and hope for the best. So you're watching flow. And I'm like, I haven't recognized what flow looks like for four years. Watching the Suns, we were hoping. You don't have to. They're going to move. They're so much fun. And the best part is the news going forward is that last night they beat a team they should have beat. And they beat them badly.

[Dale Hellestra]

Yes.

[John Holmberg]

They didn't struggle.

[Dale Hellestra]

I'm going to argue that there's two things about this version of the Phoenix Suns that I love. Death, everyone. Yeah. Always moving. Constant motion. Hustle and all that. But the effort level is something we haven't seen around here in a long time. Now, I've always said effort should be something you expect.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah.

[Dale Hellestra]

From a professional athlete. But so oftentimes, it's not what you get.

[John Holmberg]

It's gotta be.

[Dale Hellestra]

And these guys are going for 48 minutes, and it's a pleasure to watch. Plus, this Jordan Ott guy, he doesn't say a whole lot.

[John Holmberg]

He looks like a Netflix serial killer. The next time I see a picture of the Suns coach Jordan Ott, think it's going to be in a Dateline special. He just looks like, oof. Man, he's got bodies.

[Dale Hellestra]

He's got keys, and he's. He's turning the right ignitions on. That's.

[John Holmberg]

They're moving. And the fun part about it is they're. They're not going to be an indestructible force in the playoffs. They're going to be a team that. But if they want something, you're going to have to fight them for it.

[Dale Hellestra]

Right.

[John Holmberg]

You might beat them, but they require a fight. And that we have not seen for a long time.

[Dale Hellestra]

Are you excited to see them with Jalen Green? A little bit nervous.

[John Holmberg]

There's your trade deadline.

[Dale Hellestra]

Yeah.

[John Holmberg]

Don't mess around giving anybody away or they're talking about Dylan Brooks getting trouble. You're out of your mind.

[Dale Hellestra]

No.

[John Holmberg]

Don't move a single player and wait for Jalen Green to come back. It's like adding a player.

[Dale Hellestra]

Right.

[John Holmberg]

And he's going to be 22, 23.

[Dale Hellestra]

Come in.

[John Holmberg]

Oh, there's always going to be a hiccup, but I think, you know, he's definitely 20 points a night that they don't have that.

[Dale Hellestra]

He seems like he's into this team because he's at games. He's high five and guys. Pretty hugging guys. It's, again, it reminds me kind of like the team that went to the finals. Yeah, they really like playing with each other.

[John Holmberg]

It seems that way.

[Dale Hellestra]

And they enjoy being around each other, and that goes a long way in the NBA over two games.

[John Holmberg]

And I wanted to start with the Suns because. There you go. Yeah, there's some fun to talk about. Now, before we move on to the Cardinals, I do have one thing I have to say is thank you to Dale for coming to my house on Sunday night when the Steelers played the Ravens. And again, tickle in my tummy when I say it. Everybody go get me a towel. Brad, at any moment now, I could Vesuvius right through my drawers. Dale brought the Christmas card the Ravens sent him this year.

[Dale Hellestra]

Yes.

[John Holmberg]

Because you used to be one.

[Dale Hellestra]

Yeah.

[John Holmberg]

For like an hour. And then you and I love. My favorite part of your career is you flopping the ball all over the field for the Ravens. For a game.

[Dale Hellestra]

Yeah. No, you were for three.

[John Holmberg]

Okay.

[Dale Hellestra]

But you were bad at being really bad at one.

[John Holmberg]

You destroyed the Ravens season, if I'm not mistaken.

[Dale Hellestra]

No, we. We still made the playoffs. We won the game somehow, but.

[John Holmberg]

Did you do anything in the playoffs?

[Dale Hellestra]

Yeah, we. We won our first game. Miami. Yeah.

[John Holmberg]

You actually played in the playoffs and didn't screw it up?

[Dale Hellestra]

No. When I went down to Miami, it was 72 degrees. My body functioned a little bit.

[John Holmberg]

You were feeling pretty good.

[Dale Hellestra]

Yeah. When did you.

[John Holmberg]

When did you start throwing the ball all over the.

[Dale Hellestra]

The first game I played.

[John Holmberg]

Oh, the first game.

[Dale Hellestra]

Yeah. That's a Monday night game. Because that's what we do.

[John Holmberg]

Well, now, I take it back. I thought your last game was you flipping the ball.

[Dale Hellestra]

No, no. First game, second game was perfect. Third game was probably a C. Are.

[John Holmberg]

You friends with Ray Lewis, too?

[Dale Hellestra]

I will tell you, after that first game, in the bathroom after a shower or whatever, getting ready, and he came in and very, very supportive. Nice guy.

[John Holmberg]

Do it again and I'll kill you. I have killed before.

[Brady]

That was nice support.

[Dale Hellestra]

Yeah. He said, don't hang your head. You're fine. We'll be fine. You're one of us now.

[John Holmberg]

And then you looked up at him, he goes, no, never mind.

[Dale Hellestra]

Hang your head.

[John Holmberg]

I can't look at that. So he's here. Michael Irvin's here.

[Dale Hellestra]

Yeah.

[John Holmberg]

Take my soup to the Dracula. Did Michael and Troy are here together? Michael and Troy or Michael and Ray?

[Dale Hellestra]

Oh, I'm sure they are.

[John Holmberg]

And, and Warren Sapps, probably.

[Dale Hellestra]

Yeah. And so I, so I had texted Michael said, hey, you're out here in God's country. He said, yes, I am. I'll call you in a minute.

[John Holmberg]

Did he?

[Dale Hellestra]

Well, that was yesterday at about 4:00'. Clock.

[John Holmberg]

So he's at the Boom boom Boom.

[Dale Hellestra]

He probably is.

[John Holmberg]

Does he know not to drag you along or does he want you to come with?

[Dale Hellestra]

No, no, no, he doesn't want you with him. No, he just knows he's not gonna put me in that position.

[John Holmberg]

Does he make the offer though? I mean, he out there, like I told you.

[Dale Hellestra]

Honestly, a lot of us guys had no clue there was a White House. They kept it in their group. And.

[John Holmberg]

And, but he can't say to you, let's have dinner while I'm here.

[Dale Hellestra]

He could say, let's have dinner, but. But is he eating dinner?

[John Holmberg]

I see.

[Dale Hellestra]

You know, dinner's a girl's. He's not going to put me in that situation. He won't. Go beast mode. Gotta go beast mode with me. D Something something. Check out Homework's morning sickness podcast.

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[Dale Hellestra]

Holmberg's. Morning sick.

[John Holmberg]

Let's go together. If you text him right now and say, hey, I've got a guy who wants to hang out. He's fun. We want to go stay all night. He's not up right now. All night long. Yeah, but he's not up now. But he will be when he gets the text I got and I want to.

[Brady]

He's working out right now.

[John Holmberg]

So we've got that going on tonight. And who you're picking for tonight's game?

[Dale Hellestra]

Hold on. You were about to.

[John Holmberg]

We'll get to the Cardinal.

[Dale Hellestra]

Oh, yeah.

[John Holmberg]

Thank you. Because he brought that car or the Ravens card. Well, I thought you'd fumbled the. I thought you were a good Raven for me. Yeah, you tried. I didn't realize that was going on.

[Dale Hellestra]

But he sent me a. He sent me a video of him burning my Christmas card.

[John Holmberg]

I burned Christmas.

[Brady]

You left it there. Yeah.

[John Holmberg]

No, no, not at that.

[Dale Hellestra]

No, no.

[John Holmberg]

I burn his family Christmas. Okay. Yeah, he does that. I burned Christmas cards after they're done.

[Dale Hellestra]

Whose face is the last one fighting to stay?

[John Holmberg]

It was the hardest one to burn. Your whole family went up like they were made of gasoline.

[Brady]

That wasn't on a separate card.

[John Holmberg]

It should have been. It was an Easter fold out. Yeah. So then Dale brings the car to the Ravens team photo to my house for the game Sunday. And we sacrificed it. Yeah. And it burned. Weird. It's still in a square.

[Dale Hellestra]

Is it really?

[John Holmberg]

Yeah, it's really strange. And I think that you helped that kick go right. Either way, thrilled that that happened. So who do you have? Miami or Ole Miss? Quick.

[Dale Hellestra]

I am cheering like crazy for Ole Miss.

[John Holmberg]

Are you really?

[Dale Hellestra]

Oh, yeah.

[John Holmberg]

It's your friend Michael.

[Dale Hellestra]

I just can't imagine these guys. Senior coach. Go. Hey. I have a better chance to win the national championships at lsu. And yet you're two games away from winning one here. Yeah, screw him.

[John Holmberg]

A little more impressive to win it at Ole Miss. Too.

[Dale Hellestra]

Yes.

[John Holmberg]

And now we get into the, the meat and taters.

[Dale Hellestra]

Okay.

[John Holmberg]

Of what's going on.

[Dale Hellestra]

You realize 25 of NFL teams now are without an echo.

[John Holmberg]

Isn't that crazy? They're firing everybody like crazy after two or three years. Michael, Mike McDaniel just got fired by the Dolphins. The Cardinals.

[Dale Hellestra]

Yeah.

[Brady]

Who's their next head coach?

[John Holmberg]

They're going to interview Matt Nagy.

[Dale Hellestra]

Yeah. Why yes. That, that just you need another bald guys down the side, you know, we.

[John Holmberg]

Don'T need any more ball. I've got it covered.

[Dale Hellestra]

Yeah. Yeah.

[John Holmberg]

What in the world are they thinking? Vance Joseph, Matt Nagy. They just will not admit they're a bad franchise that needs someone to come and take over.

[Dale Hellestra]

Well, that's. And that's the thing. It's one of those things to me, you're either going to hire Robert Salah from San Francisco coming here because. Well, you never know. You never know.

[John Holmberg]

He was the jets coach. He's been through this, you know.

[Dale Hellestra]

Well that is something you have against you because you, you are lumped in.

[John Holmberg]

With Browns, Jazz, the Cardinals are the jets again.

[Dale Hellestra]

Yes.

[John Holmberg]

And his. There's no way Robert Salas agent is going to be like take that if.

[Dale Hellestra]

He has other offers. No. Unless they blow it out of the water.

[John Holmberg]

No way.

[Dale Hellestra]

Or I would say, hey one time, Michael, take a stab at something. Throw a lot of money at Harbaugh, see if he bites.

[John Holmberg]

No way.

[Dale Hellestra]

And I don't think he will.

[John Holmberg]

No way.

[Dale Hellestra]

But at least try no. And say you can have run of everything because guess what? The way we've done it now for the last doesn't work. Hasn't worked.

[John Holmberg]

They have to admit they're the issue and they have to let go. Harbaugh will not come here. He's got pick of the litter.

[Dale Hellestra]

Oh, I know he does. And they're firing coaches now to get.

[John Holmberg]

Him playoff teams that if, if the Bills don't get through the playoffs in an impressive fashion, you know, McDermott's probably out and if I'm Harbaugh, I'm waiting to get Josh Allen or you get a quarterback.

[Brady]

He.

[John Holmberg]

The Giants is the job he should take. The Cardinals are so delusional to believe that any of these high end candidates want to come here. And you know what I said? I've said Jon Gruden, top to bottom. John Gruden, your answer. Second. Second on my list. And I didn't think of this until yesterday. Mike McCarthy wins, wins, wins. He's got the same resume as John Harbaugh. Yeah, same one.

[Dale Hellestra]

Yeah. But he's older than Harbaugh.

[John Holmberg]

I believe he was 104 when he took over the Bills and he's still alive.

[Dale Hellestra]

I think that if you look at it that Harbaugh's either. You're right. If the Bills fire McDermott on Monday.

[John Holmberg]

That'S the one I'm taking.

[Dale Hellestra]

Right. Going there. But he's an east coast guy. He's a Giants guy. They got a few more pieces and.

[John Holmberg]

Giants is a great job.

[Dale Hellestra]

But because the thing about the Cardinals, not only do they have their history laying in front of you, but they also got three other teams in this division that all are double digit win.

[John Holmberg]

They're going to kick your ass for a few years.

[Dale Hellestra]

Yes. Yeah. Yep. And that. And you, you look at that stuff and then what are you going to do at the quarterback position if you're Harbaugh?

[John Holmberg]

Don't you just sit back and wait till the end of the playoffs and drive the market?

[Dale Hellestra]

Oh, I'm going to be very patient. Oh, super patient. Be very patient.

[John Holmberg]

And the Raiders are going to throw a ton of money at them because. And that was what the NFL would love to have. Raiders, Chargers, twice a year. Harbaugh and I would too, because there's a better chance that terrorists are in the area for that stadium. It's a one hit shop there to get rid of all the Harbaugh and then. Yeah. Or like, you know, an accident or a volcano or something terrible like God's wrath. I'm not sure. Oh, something terrible. And it would have to happen in Vegas, which is unfortunate because the Rams don't deserve that. So you can't tear their stadium down.

[Dale Hellestra]

No, not that. Yeah.

[John Holmberg]

So I would like to see that happen. That's just my wishes.

[Dale Hellestra]

Right.

[John Holmberg]

But the Cardinals are going to end up with something stupid. Do you see them make. Do you see them doing what we talk about, which is finally getting over their delusion of being valuable to a coach?

[Dale Hellestra]

No, I don't see them. But again we, I think over the history of professional sports, you've seen owners decide, hey, I've had enough of this. And. And I'm putting my flag in the ground. I'm going to. I'm throwing everything I got at a guy. And is Michael Bidwell willing to do that? History says no.

[John Holmberg]

No. Do you like my Gruden idea?

[Dale Hellestra]

You brought that up the other day and gosh, he would. It would be perfect.

[John Holmberg]

It's perfect. Even if it doesn't go well on the field. You've revamped how the thinking goes.

[Dale Hellestra]

Right.

[John Holmberg]

And you're going to bring players in and don't.

[Dale Hellestra]

And don't think his stuff with the NFL and suing them and all that.

[John Holmberg]

Double motivation.

[Dale Hellestra]

Yeah. It doesn't have anything to do with it.

[John Holmberg]

People will hate hearing this, but it reminds me of the Buddy Ryan hire. And people forget, the first year Buddy was here, they were eight. Eight and going the right direction. Buddy had a problem with the press because the press told him, yeah, sure. Your defenses, it was like the number two defense in football overnight. You got Seth Joyner, Clyde Simmons, Terry Hogue came here. That 94 team was like Eric Hill was on the other side. They drafted Thrill Hill. They had. They had some players and they said, yeah, but you can't coach offense. And he cut the entire offense and traded Hill to Miami because he's like, I'll show you. I'll build an offense. And the next year they were a disaster.

[Dale Hellestra]

Well, he called Steve Berline a cancer.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah, yeah. He was a mess. It was a disaster.

[Dale Hellestra]

He didn't have Randall cutting it.

[John Holmberg]

No. He had Kent Graham. All of a sudden he's working with Jim McMahon again. Like, what is going on? He was bad, but it reminded me of that hire going, this Bidwell thing is secondary. I'm the star. Gruden would do that exact same thing, only he's more capable and qualified.

[Dale Hellestra]

That's what I was gonna say. I think that as far as running a program, he's more capable doing that. Oh, than Buddy ryan was.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah, 100%. So. I love that one.

[Dale Hellestra]

Yeah.

[John Holmberg]

Mike McCarthy's my two. Everything after that is a crap.

[Brady]

Pete Carroll, three.

[John Holmberg]

No, he's 83. You got to get rid of Pete Carroll. Come back, let Pete Carroll go work in tv.

[Dale Hellestra]

If Tomlin, if Pittsburgh loses Monday night, there's a chance.

[John Holmberg]

Depends on the embarrassment of. If they get drubbed at home.

[Dale Hellestra]

Right.

[John Holmberg]

In the playoffs. There's a chance.

[Brady]

How do you. How would you feel?

[John Holmberg]

It depends on the loss. Like if it's.

[Brady]

That's what I'm saying. If it was a drubbing.

[John Holmberg]

If it's like 48 to 10 and they look every bit of that. Yeah, there's a chance.

[Brady]

You just clean.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah, there's a. You're okay with that on the. Based on the one game or. It's not just one game. That's. That's a lot of time of not. Not getting over in the playoffs. They fired Harbaugh because they had the number one seed twice. They got a two time, almost three time MVP at quarterback and they didn't get over the hump. So it's like we got to make a change. I think Mike's got one year left on his deal. So I would be surprised if they did it. But if he loses badly.

[Dale Hellestra]

Right.

[John Holmberg]

People will be like, all right, it's time.

[Dale Hellestra]

You can go TV for a year.

[John Holmberg]

Well, you can go anywhere he wants.

[Dale Hellestra]

Yeah.

[John Holmberg]

He could he again pick the litter.

[Dale Hellestra]

Right.

[John Holmberg]

It's. It's his choice after that. It's interesting. But yeah.

[Brady]

So.

[John Holmberg]

But they're not gonna lose because they.

[Brady]

Will have to wait on what Rogers decides to do.

[John Holmberg]

Or 23 and oh. On Monday night home games.

[Dale Hellestra]

Pittsburgh. Yeah. Really?

[John Holmberg]

Yeah. In the last 23 Monday night home games there.

[Dale Hellestra]

Wow.

[John Holmberg]

Undefeated.

[Dale Hellestra]

You gotta like that. Except for.

[John Holmberg]

Doesn't hurt.

[Dale Hellestra]

Every streak has to end.

[John Holmberg]

They're do. What I see is two sides. I'm like, well, they're. They're invincible.

[Dale Hellestra]

Yeah.

[John Holmberg]

And they're due at some point.

[Dale Hellestra]

Even UCLA basketball team finally lost the game.

[John Holmberg]

And it's scary, but it's a hell of a run and I. I like it. So I like the odds of where it's sitting and how it's happening, plus their motivation to keep going. And Aaron Rodgers has proven he's pretty clutch.

[Dale Hellestra]

Yes. So have you looked at the weather? What's it gonna be like Monday night?

[John Holmberg]

Probably not nice.

[Dale Hellestra]

Okay.

[John Holmberg]

Which is fine. I don't care. I just. They're in it and the Ravens are out.

[Dale Hellestra]

Just make sure you have all your fires going.

[John Holmberg]

At your fires going.

[Dale Hellestra]

You look at the TV and you go, that's football. That's.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah. We have a beautiful situation. 70 degrees Monday here. That's all I care about. And the Ravens are also at a bar watching too. And that is. Oh, that is. My balls just got a little bit.

[Dale Hellestra]

Of a little tingle.

[John Holmberg]

A lot of tingle. A lot even went right up into the beginning. Everything was fantastic. Yeah, that was a good one. Wow. That was that. Hey, I didn't know you were a. Anyway, it's good stuff. So I'm excited. We're going to make our. Our football picks here.

[Dale Hellestra]

Okay.

[John Holmberg]

Just a little bit. Are you excited about that? The college and the pros.

[Dale Hellestra]

So who the Cowboys got this week?

[John Holmberg]

Oh, and that's the thing. You and Brady can commiserate over your teams sucking. Here's my. And I've made this prediction. I don't know if it'll be next year, but soon Joe Burrow will be a Pittsburgh Steeler. That's going to happen.

[Dale Hellestra]

You think?

[John Holmberg]

I think that's going to happen.

[Dale Hellestra]

Well, I think he's I think he's going to start going the way that Carlson Palmer did.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah, he's going to tell the Bengals I quit or trade me, right? Yeah. He's not happy there and it's awesome. There's another oh my butthole. That was my B hole again. I got tingles again thinking of the Bengals becoming the Bengals all over.

[Dale Hellestra]

What happens if Rogers wins a playoff game or so and decides I want to come back?

[John Holmberg]

You keep him around unless Joe Burrow starts becoming available and then you throw all the stuff at that and get rid of Aaron. It's a business. The players reminder of that all the time.

[Dale Hellestra]

Hey, were you a little bummed at how long that your boy Watt stayed out for just a little puncture.

[John Holmberg]

It was a punctured collapse lump.

[Dale Hellestra]

It's a little poke.

[John Holmberg]

It's a collapse lump. We're late. This is your fault.

[Dale Hellestra]

That's right.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah, that's it. New Year's, same results. That's exactly it. Dale's here, Brought to you by our [e-mail] we'll do some football picks with Dale next.

[Dale Hellestra]

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[John Holmberg]

Holmberg's Morning See this is where it's fun. And we only have a few more weeks of this with football gambling, and we're all sitting in here making our picks and doing our thing.

[Dale Hellestra]

Well, a couple of the lines were a little bit when. When Brady said that Carolina was getting 16 and a half.

[John Holmberg]

It's like, hold on, it's settling at 10 and a half. But that's still an awful lot to get a team for the playoffs.

[Dale Hellestra]

At home.

[John Holmberg]

At home. And you already beat this team once. Well, can you do it twice? That's a big question. But we'll see. Football playoffs are so much fun there. But have you ever seen Book of Mormon, Dale?

[Dale Hellestra]

I have not. Oh, I heard you talking about this morning.

[John Holmberg]

Get him to it.

[Dale Hellestra]

Well, where's this damage?

[John Holmberg]

Down in Tempe. Oh, get your ass over. I'm going tonight.

[Dale Hellestra]

I've never seen it before, the Book of Mormon.

[John Holmberg]

Oh, yeah, it's brilliant.

[Brady]

I've gone. Dale.

[John Holmberg]

It's brilliant.

[Dale Hellestra]

Okay. And do you think it's as great as Johnny?

[Brady]

It's hilarious.

[Dale Hellestra]

Yeah.

[John Holmberg]

Brilliant.

[Dale Hellestra]

Okay.

[John Holmberg]

Get your ass over. Don't take your wife, though. There's a lot of cussing.

[Dale Hellestra]

I mean, you. Well, actually, she's getting better. We're watching Landman now.

[John Holmberg]

Oh, no kidding.

[Dale Hellestra]

Yeah.

[John Holmberg]

Billy Bob thing.

[Brady]

Big step, right?

[Dale Hellestra]

Yeah, it is a big step.

[John Holmberg]

She likes when I talk to her through the television, doesn't she? How you doing there? This is hella straight.

[Dale Hellestra]

She said, you know what? The. The language doesn't seem to be. It's. It just is in the conversation. It's not like a comedian throwing on an F bomb feeling like they're going.

[Brady]

Out of their way.

[Dale Hellestra]

Yeah, yeah.

[John Holmberg]

She just doesn't like cussing.

[Dale Hellestra]

Right. I mean, just for no reason, Cussing like you do.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah. Or you. Yeah, you hide from them. Let's not get into that. You're the. You're as bad, if not worse, than me. Does she know that? You're horrible.

[Brady]

I've never heard Dale cuss.

[John Holmberg]

Oh, my God. I've never heard him not. Some of the words are just. He muddles words and then cusses and muddles and cusses. My God.

[Dale Hellestra]

Hold on. Now you're out in Mormon country. Is it something that the Mormons like or.

[Brady]

No, mostly they get it. The ones that aren't so Mormon. Like Jack Mormon.

[Dale Hellestra]

Yeah.

[Brady]

Enjoy it even more.

[John Holmberg]

It's not mean.

[Dale Hellestra]

It's. It's.

[Brady]

It's done in a living, loving way. In a way.

[John Holmberg]

Sort of. Yeah, it's definitely a kick in the nuts, but it's like this is what you guys believe. We're just having fun with it.

[Dale Hellestra]

I was gonna say. I just don't know how you can make that funny. So maybe I would go. Go see it.

[John Holmberg]

Because I'll tell you off the air how they make it funny.

[Dale Hellestra]

Okay.

[John Holmberg]

And it'll sell tickets. I guarantee it, because it's a blast. By the way, Dale is also the co host of the. The spot sports emporium.

[Dale Hellestra]

The main event.

[John Holmberg]

Main event. No, no. We'll get to that in a second. The main event with Steve McCollum who I met, and he seems like he's a very nice guy.

[Dale Hellestra]

Fellow doll. And I think. I think there's something in the water over there because everybody I've met from dolls bald.

[John Holmberg]

We've all lost our hair.

[Dale Hellestra]

Yeah.

[Brady]

Wow.

[John Holmberg]

Very strange.

[Dale Hellestra]

Did you go to Dobson Brady?

[Brady]

I did not.

[John Holmberg]

He's been close, though. I can see the Chernobyl of high school. But yeah, so I met. You're at the main event. Tmesports.com you'll go to any of your watch me jiggers.

[Dick Toledo]

All right.

[Dale Hellestra]

You can get that youtubes and whatever you can find.

[John Holmberg]

The tubes and the. Yeah. And the face. The face pokes and all that. And also that sports show with a John Holmberg podcast. Dale occasionally chimes in on that.

[Dale Hellestra]

It's wet from John. It's been from John being a co host. No, a guest host. Star to co host to the host to. Now it's a John Holmberg.

[John Holmberg]

More just executive producer, showrunner, and star. Sort of the Byron Allen of the whole deal. And then Dave Nash is on there and he's getting really annoyed at the fact that he. He doesn't talk much and then gets mad when other people do.

[Dale Hellestra]

Oh, yeah, he. He knows he's up against it when he's in there with you.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah, he's. He's done. But it's fun, so you can check that out as well. All right, let's get right to it. Our football picks for the week. We've got the packers and Brett's Bears. Brett, I'm going to let you choose this one in our parlay. The packers are one and a half point favorites in Chicago with the Bears. You're going with the Bears straight up.

[Dale Hellestra]

Yep.

[John Holmberg]

Bears to win it all. No points.

[Brady]

Nope.

[John Holmberg]

All right. All right. Let me undo this stuff here because I'm going to redo the whole 16. We're doing a sixer parlay on fanduel for this, and it's going to be awesome. All right. You're Going straight Bears. Straight Bears. Brady, I'm going to let you because you don't have a team in the hunt. Panthers are getting ten and a half at home against the Rams.

[Brady]

I'm going to take the Panthers and the points.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah, absolutely. Plus 10. In a playoff game, anything can go wrong.

[Dale Hellestra]

Boy, Brady, if you went them just straight up, the Als would go at up. I wouldn't. I wouldn't get him to win.

[John Holmberg]

But Matthew Stafford could bonk his hand on a helmet and everything changes. Ten and a half's an awful lot to give in a playoff game, Dale. You used to be points again. Yeah, well, we can do that. That's ten and a half. You're puss around.

[Dale Hellestra]

Yeah.

[John Holmberg]

The Bills are going to Jacksonville. Nobody's talking about the Jags. They're also one and a half point favorites. Dale, who you got there?

[Dale Hellestra]

Yeah. The way that Jacksonville's played of late and Trevor Lawrence. I mean, it's like you don't even recognize him other than the long hair and pretty face and pretty face like Mr. Red and Beautiful Yellow Eyes.

[John Holmberg]

What are you doing when you watch Jags game? It's Jags. It rhymes with what I'm thinking.

[Dale Hellestra]

And I think that the Bills are probably on their last leg. Although this is one year where they wouldn't have to beat the game. Kansas City Chiefs or the Ravens or the Ravens or the Bengals and. But I going down to Jacksonville again. The NFL is made for change, to change things up. He's down. He's there for one year.

[John Holmberg]

Christ sick Pickett with the Jags.

[Dale Hellestra]

I'm going with the Jags.

[John Holmberg]

Going Jags straight up. All right, Brady. Eagles are at home against the Niners and they're given four and a half to San Francisco.

[Brady]

I gotta go with the Eagles straight up.

[Dale Hellestra]

I gotta get the points, right?

[John Holmberg]

You're giving points to the Niners on that one.

[Brady]

I'll go with the points on Eagles.

[John Holmberg]

You're giving up four and a half points.

[Dale Hellestra]

Yeah.

[Brady]

Let's just go straight out.

[John Holmberg]

Oh, for Christ's sake. These guys. All right, Brad, I'm going to go back to you because you're decisive. Male Chargers in New England Patriots. Three and a half points. Patriots are favorite. Patriots going Patriots. Straight up.

[Larry McFeely]

Straight up.

[Dale Hellestra]

All right.

[John Holmberg]

And then I'll take it for the end, boys.

[Dale Hellestra]

Monday night. You got to wait the whole weekend.

[John Holmberg]

I can just watch that Raven Steelers game. Seven full days of getting your nuts tickled that the Ravens are out. I don't care what happens. Steelers are getting three at home. 23 and oh, at home Monday night games since the 90s.

[Dale Hellestra]

NFL did them by making them huge.

[John Holmberg]

I'm taking plus three on my Steelers right there. Our bet boys is a plus 29. 23. That's 3,000 bucks in my hands. If this thing goes, will I share it with you? I'll have to decide afterwards.

[Dale Hellestra]

We'll see.

[John Holmberg]

But I'll put the 100 bucks on it. And off we go. Well done, gentlemen. Let's hope that thing goes.

[Dale Hellestra]

3,000.

[John Holmberg]

$3,000 on a six leg parlay and then it has the nerve to ask me as I hit the button, do you. Are you enjoying FanDuel?

[Dale Hellestra]

Well, we'll see. I'll let you know. We'll see.

[John Holmberg]

10 o' clock right now? No, but maybe in a little bit.

[Dale Hellestra]

We'll see.

[John Holmberg]

Right now we have one good win though. We had a nice. We had a nice win this year. I think we. I didn't make up for all the money put in, but I came out pretty even on that. It was nice. You still owe us for the big F up that one week. You can't even figure out apple pay. That's right, buddy.

[Dale Hellestra]

I owe you $33.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah, all of us get 33 from you eventually. Once you get one of your kids.

[Dale Hellestra]

To tell you how well you guys can do it for me.

[John Holmberg]

Maybe when you're in one of your mother daughter talks, you can get one of them to explain to you how the phone works.

[Dale Hellestra]

There are some interesting lines this week.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah, there are.

[Dale Hellestra]

Seriously, How's Carolina?

[John Holmberg]

Ten and a half at home. They've already beaten the Rams once and I think they're taking that into account. I don't know. We'll see.

[Dale Hellestra]

Football starts well, what watches get off the air and the quarterbacks out.

[John Holmberg]

We have the right to change that. We can move it. Don't you worry. Subject to change. Yeah, it is tough. Make your prediction. Who do the Cardinals hire?

[Dale Hellestra]

I would think that probably Robert Sala would be the guy that they would settle on right there. I don't think he's going to command. He'll take $8 million a year. Yeah, I think he'll be better than he was at the Jets. A lot of times you get that first job, you learn things and plus I think the Cardinals, as hard as for me to say this, are a little bit better run than the Jets. Jets. I think the jets are the worst run organization. They're pretty bad in the national football.

[John Holmberg]

But here's the thing. If you're being compared to jets ownership and people are like maybe, yeah, you're bad.

[Dale Hellestra]

But, John, remember we talked about this in August.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah.

[Dale Hellestra]

We were high on the Cardinals. Yeah, we were high on the Cardinals.

[John Holmberg]

And then midway through, you said that thing.

[Dale Hellestra]

Yes.

[John Holmberg]

We can't have nice things. No, it can't happen here in the Valley. It's just something dumb happens to all those locals. I don't care about the Cardinals winning and losing. I like when the city is happy.

[Dale Hellestra]

Yeah.

[John Holmberg]

It's just not going to be.

[Dale Hellestra]

Although we. We got our sons, Johnny.

[John Holmberg]

No.

[Dale Hellestra]

We got ourselves.

[John Holmberg]

We're just happy with them not sucking.

[Dale Hellestra]

Yes.

[John Holmberg]

They're not great.

[Dale Hellestra]

Well, I got. I got them over. Under 30, one and a half.

[John Holmberg]

Oh, you're gonna win that.

[Dale Hellestra]

But don't. Don't.

[John Holmberg]

You got so much. It's January. They've got 22. Three wins, 22 wins. You're fine. Walk in the park. They'd have to go eight, and the.

[Dale Hellestra]

Rest of them, bookers out. They decide to trade Dylan Brooks.

[John Holmberg]

Well, they do that.

[Dale Hellestra]

I do it.

[John Holmberg]

Then we'd win 10 or 12 more games for sure. If I'm running point, I'd have him in hysterics.

[Dale Hellestra]

You'd be hurt more than you know what to do with.

[John Holmberg]

I already am thinking about it.

[Dale Hellestra]

All right. Well, there you go.

[John Holmberg]

The football picks are in, and we'll post them up there. This is a good parlay. I like what we did here. You two were a little indecisive, like trying to get a woman to tell you where she wants to have dinner. Brett, I appreciate you knocking it out. That's pretty good stuff.

[Brady]

But wait. Okay, we're in.

[John Holmberg]

Would you really, if in your single days a mother and daughter were interested in you, you'd go in there at the same time?

[Dale Hellestra]

No, no, I just said they were both.

[John Holmberg]

I'm not talking about that. I'm saying, let's go back to Dale's single swinging days, and his daughter's like, mom's hot and she's in.

[Dale Hellestra]

That was 40 years ago.

[John Holmberg]

Okay, let's talk about 40 years ago. Look, I didn't say. Do you remember a time you mentally say, that's a good idea?

[Dale Hellestra]

No, I think I. I would think it'd be weird.

[John Holmberg]

It's disgusting.

[Dale Hellestra]

Yeah, weird.

[John Holmberg]

It is disgusting, John.

[Dale Hellestra]

I. I just don't understand where you decide that's disgusting. But watching.

[John Holmberg]

I can explain it, but watching pimple poppers is. How are you comparing those two things?

[Dale Hellestra]

I'm just saying disgusting is disgusting.

[John Holmberg]

I'll tell you. Let me give you a sentence that will make you go, oh, John's Right. There's the girl and her daughter again. That, that Brett Brady found this. Nope. First of all, and he started and he shot it to me.

[Brady]

I'd go, grandmother, mother, daughter.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah. See, here's what, here's where, here's where I'm going to tell you. Big pimping over here. Both of them in the room together. Nude, self lubricated. Shouldn't ever happen.

[Dale Hellestra]

No, I'm 100% with you.

[John Holmberg]

What about twins?

[Dale Hellestra]

The same thing.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah. It's incest. Yeah. Yeah. Would you and your brother ever tag team one of those ladies? So uncomfortable.

[Dale Hellestra]

This is fun for me. Would you and Brett.

[John Holmberg]

Brett's not my brother. No, I'm, I have a.

[Dale Hellestra]

You don't have a brother.

[John Holmberg]

I have a. One erection per. One crank room.

[Dale Hellestra]

One.

[John Holmberg]

One erection per. Like, if you got one right now and like, I gotta go, you'd know. Oh, he's got one, too. One erection per room rule.

[Dale Hellestra]

That's your rule.

[John Holmberg]

That is a huge rule for me.

[Dale Hellestra]

How about when the Steelers win, there's more than one erection.

[John Holmberg]

Ah, that's different, man. That's. That's heavenly. That's different.

[Dale Hellestra]

So I, I, I did. I asked you on Sunday night because I walked in to your get together and there was noticeably scant of people.

[John Holmberg]

Go ahead, make your racist comment.

[Dale Hellestra]

No, I just, I, I just wanted, you know, you, when you scoop up. Of finding people, you. Dale said when he came in, did ICE come and scoop up half the.

[John Holmberg]

Fans because a couple of the Mexican guys that are normally there, not there. Don't pussy around if you're gonna bring it up. That's funny. No, I don't know.

[Brady]

J.D.

[John Holmberg]

Could have been scooped up. There's a chance. Look, if I was an ICE agent, I'd look at J.D. quinones and I'd be like, he's got to come with me.

[Dale Hellestra]

Maybe.

[John Holmberg]

I don't know. Jose was there. Joe was there. Pretty safe. That I still a Jose there? Yeah, there's a Jose and we call him Joe, but that's another one.

[Dale Hellestra]

Yeah, it's Jose.

[John Holmberg]

A couple of Joses in there. It's all right. Phil Avila. We have some. Yeah.

[Dale Hellestra]

But no, hopefully this Monday it'll be stacked up again.

[John Holmberg]

All right. Yeah, I like it. Oh, I. Oh, the Ravens are in turmoil.

[Dale Hellestra]

Yeah. We talked about it on. On podcast that we did. The fact that you went in in the span of about five minutes, real time. Yeah. Went from absolutely devastating.

[John Holmberg]

Can't imagine it.

[Dale Hellestra]

Absolutely devastated. Missing that extra point to then poop in your pants for about Four and a half minutes to then. Ecstatic, elated.

[John Holmberg]

I wrote a text to someone. Yeah, that actually, I will read it back.

[Dale Hellestra]

Okay. Because I just imagine you sitting there, first of all, you guys throwing stuff at the TV after the miss extra point. Because Boswell doesn't miss extra points.

[John Holmberg]

Well, it got blocked. The NFL redid it to a block, so they. It's now considered like it got tipped. That's why it turned crazy.

[Dale Hellestra]

Right.

[John Holmberg]

Okay, this says I. I actually wrote this to a friend who's a Steelers fan. I said, I cannot deal with this anymore. And I'm saying goodbye to my Steeler friends. I've enjoyed our brief time together. I'm having a massive heart attack.

[Dale Hellestra]

Was this right after.

[John Holmberg]

No, this was just after the Ravens caught that Isaiah likely caught that miracle and got a text back says, I can't be a Steeler fan anymore either. This is crazy. And that was a synopsis.

[Brady]

Was that from Bradshaw?

[John Holmberg]

There's about 15 different people that I shared similar.

[Dale Hellestra]

Mean Joe Green.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah, Me and Mean Joe.

[Dale Hellestra]

Brutal.

[John Holmberg]

But it's. It's the life of it. Yeah. It's so worth it in the end.

[Dale Hellestra]

Look at that.

[John Holmberg]

Look at how many people have a heart on. Because I might have to leave. That might be two. I'm Stoneheart and Dale.

[Brady]

You have to go there Monday.

[John Holmberg]

Oh, you should probably come. Yeah. You're more than welcome. He's. He's been. We boo him when he comes in.

[Dale Hellestra]

The whole crew. It's pretty great.

[John Holmberg]

The Steelers lost with him there, though.

[Dale Hellestra]

Oh, yeah.

[John Holmberg]

Oh, yeah. One time we were up 17 nothing and he left and we lost that game. Go. We blame him now.

[Dale Hellestra]

You have to.

[John Holmberg]

Otherwise you're the mush. If he show up. Yeah. Do the entertainment drill next. It's 98. It's not weird. It's pretty cool, actually. No membership fee. I have heard enough of this.