01-15-24 - Final Episode Of Curious Case Of Natalia Grace Did Not Disappoint But Begs Questions On Types Of People Who Date The Disabled - Emailer Says Date Filed Restraining Order

Summary

Holmberg's Morning Sickness - Arizona Episode: January 15, 2025 Title: Final Episode Of Curious Case Of Natalia Grace Did Not Disappoint But Begs Questions On Types Of People Who Date The Disabled - Emailer Says Date Filed Restraining Order

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Introduction

In the January 15, 2025 episode of Holmberg's Morning Sickness on 98 KUPD, host John Holmberg, along with his co-hosts Brady Bogen, Bret Vesely, and Dick Toledo, delves into the controversial final episode of the true-crime series Curious Case of Natalia Grace. The discussion centers around the ethical implications of relationships involving individuals with disabilities, using Natalia Grace's situation as a focal point.

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Discussion on the Final Episode of "Curious Case of Natalia Grace"

Overview of Natalia Grace's Case

John Holmberg initiates the conversation by expressing his thoughts on the concluding episode of Curious Case of Natalia Grace. He describes Natalia Grace as a "very funny" yet troubling figure who, despite her disabilities, seemingly manipulates the lives of those around her.

"I loved it. Well, no, not at all. She flew off to the United. So for those of you to recap, she's ruined another family this time. She's moved in with a bunch of little people."
[02:37] John Holmberg

Ethical Concerns in Relationships Involving the Disabled

The hosts delve into the moral complexities surrounding relationships where one partner has significant disabilities. John Holmberg asserts that such relationships often involve exploitation rather than genuine affection.

"Don't blame everybody in the race for being an asshole. And same goes for, like, handicapped people and whatever. You automatically give a little extra to something that you feel, you know, like, oh, I don't understand their plight. And so they have a little more leeway to be dickheads. But people who are crippled can be assholes, too."
[03:30] John Holmberg

He further emphasizes that individuals without disabilities who enter into relationships with disabled partners may be driven by ulterior motives, such as fulfilling personal fetishes or seeking attention.

"I don't believe in love that way. I don't think it happens. I think the social pressure for you to wander around like that is some sort of a badge of honor. I think it's an attention grab more than it is love."
[15:00] John Holmberg

Case Study: Neil and Natalia Grace

A significant portion of the discussion revolves around a character named Neil, who entered into a relationship with Natalia Grace. Holmberg portrays Neil as someone who exploited Natalia's vulnerabilities for personal gain, likening his actions to a dark comedy narrative.

"I think he owns a bar now. My guess is if you looked up whoever this Neil guy is, he is currently in the middle of a deed transfer with an owner of the Winchester."
[08:04] John Holmberg

He draws parallels between Neil's actions and themes from the movie Company of Men, where characters manipulate others for malicious purposes.

"It's like dwarf tossing. We were allowed to do that for a while. And so people are like, you know, this is kind of taking advantage of. I'm like, they want to do it, do they?"
[22:04] John Holmberg

Comparison to Media and Pop Culture

Holmberg references various films to illustrate the manipulative nature of such relationships. He mentions The Company of Men and In the Company of Men to draw parallels between fictional narratives and real-life exploitation.

"In the company of men, thank you, Nick Rivera. That's it."
[29:30] John Holmberg

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Listener Email Segment: Restraining Order Case

Cody's Experience with a Restraining Order

The episode transitions to a listener email from Cody, who shares his ordeal of receiving a restraining order from a woman he had an on-and-off relationship with. Cody recounts how he pursued her despite her lack of response, culminating in legal action that has ostracized him at work.

"I got a restraining order from a girl I had slept with about 15 times. Most recently slept with her three weeks ago."
[12:32] John Holmberg

Hosts' Reaction and Advice

John Holmberg responds to Cody's situation by highlighting the consequences of disregarding boundaries in relationships. He emphasizes the importance of respecting legal restrictions and recognizing when a relationship becomes unhealthy or manipulative.

"You have to never talk to her or be close to her for a year, which is fantastic. Work on your end. Good work, Cody."
[35:24] John Holmberg

He further narrates a personal anecdote about a past encounter with an older woman, reinforcing the notion that pushing boundaries can lead to severe repercussions.

"But still, I didn't bang her. And it goes away."
[35:24] John Holmberg

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Ethical Implications and Social Commentary

Boundaries in Relationships

A recurring theme in the episode is the necessity of maintaining boundaries in relationships, especially when power dynamics are skewed due to disabilities or other vulnerabilities. The hosts argue that crossing these boundaries often leads to exploitation and emotional harm.

"Boundaries. Because we all know you can't fall in love with the color of her skin, but by the content of her character... but you. They represent individuals, not the entire race or group."
[04:46] John Holmberg

Critique of Society's Perception

The hosts critique societal tendencies to sympathize excessively with individuals who are disabled or vulnerable, suggesting that this can enable manipulative behaviors.

"You automatically give a little extra to something that you feel, you know, like, oh, I don't understand their plight. And so they have a little more leeway to be dickheads."
[03:30] John Holmberg

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Conclusion and Final Thoughts

John Holmberg wraps up the episode by reiterating his skepticism about the authenticity of love in relationships where significant power imbalances exist, particularly in cases involving disability. He warns listeners to be cautious and discerning in their personal relationships to avoid falling into exploitative dynamics.

"I don't believe in love like that. I don't think it's beautiful. I certainly don't think that would be a beautiful. I wouldn't go to a wedding and start crying going, I can't believe these two kids found each other."
[10:41] John Holmberg

The hosts collectively express a critical stance on relationships that appear to leverage one partner's vulnerabilities, urging listeners to prioritize genuine connections over superficial or exploitative engagements.

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Notable Quotes

1. John Holmberg at [02:54]:

   "She flew off to England in the middle of taping. No cameras allowed in full out, everybody hates her here."

2. John Holmberg at [04:34]:

   "Happy birthday, MLK junior. It is his birthday, too. And that's why I'm telling you this, because I know what he really meant."

3. John Holmberg at [15:00]:

   "A crooked pot at 6 foot 2 banging that still doesn't say that it has boundaries."

4. John Holmberg at [28:43]:

   "That's exactly what there's something wrong with that guy to think, you know what that little hand's gonna make my tiny penis finally."

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Final Remarks

This episode of Holmberg's Morning Sickness provides a provocative exploration of the ethical dilemmas surrounding relationships between able-bodied individuals and those with disabilities. Through the lens of Natalia Grace's case, the hosts challenge listeners to critically evaluate the authenticity and motivations behind such relationships, emphasizing the importance of maintaining personal boundaries and recognizing potential exploitation.

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Note: This summary excludes advertisement segments and focuses solely on the substantive discussions within the episode.

Transcript

[John Holmberg]

All right, HMS Podcast, time again to let you know where to go for some great comedy in the Valley this week. Get out to the Tempe Improv on the east side to see Paul Versey on Thursday and Beth Stelling Friday, Saturday and Sunday. The Desert Ridge Improv up North features Sarah Weinschenk this Thursday and Joe DeRosa on Friday and Saturday. And downtown at Stand Up Live, check out the very funny Lil Rel performing Friday, Saturday and Sunday for the complete lineups. And for tickets, go to standuplive.com desertridgeimprov.com and tempeimprov.com it's John Holberg here for the amazing people at the Core Institute, life can throw you a curveball now and again. One day you're trucking along, feeling great. Next day your dog smashes into your head and knocks you cold. Or like a KUPD listener told me this week, his dog did a sprint across the backyard directly into the side of his wife's leg and blew her knee up. She needed that need to get fixed and fixed right? Two years later, she's running like she used to again. And it's all thanks to the Core Institute. I went through it, too. And you can get rid of your pain and start saying, yes, I can to all the things you want to do. And. And all you have to do is trust the experts at the Core Institute head there right now. The Core Institute dot com. What the. God damn it. I need another mic. Give me another mic.

[Brady]

Hold, please.

[John Holmberg]

Work again. Does it There. Son of a. So and so. What happens to this room?

[Brady]

It's that magic reset button.

[John Holmberg]

I don't know. It isn't. I do that every morning. I test it. The times I don't test doesn't work. I have to switch mics. I don't know why that is. And it was Shannon last night. It wasn't some sort of a weirdo weekender. Nah. Anyway, what a way to kick her off. Good morning, everybody. It's 5:45. This is the morning sickness. My name's John. There's Brady. There's Brett. There's Big Dick Toledo. And there's one broken, one dead Mike that, for whatever reason, will be just fine. Mike in three seconds. Mike, we need Mike filled make or. Mike, we have a broken mike. Mike. Anyway, it doesn't make any sense. I'll turn this thing off, everything, and it'll be fine in a second. It's just like, you know, we have IT guys and we have engineers and things like that, but really, all we need is me, because I just will walk through and smash the thing that's not working. And for some reason, it scares it back into, like, Fonzie. It sort of feels like you're Fonzie because that jukebox. I just hit it and it works again. It'll be fine. Enough of my complaining. Hopefully you guys are doing just fine and your stuff's working. I'm still head over heels for the final episode. It ended last night, for me, at least. I watched the last episode of the Curious Case of Natalia Grace, and I went on and on yesterday about it, because.

[Brady]

Strong ending.

[John Holmberg]

I loved it. Well, no, not at all. She flew off to the United. So for those of you to recap, she's. She's ruined another family this time. She's moved in with a bunch of little people. If you haven't watched Natalia Grace, it's. It's both sort of sad, and then it just gets hilarious.

[Brady]

Is this Tiger King type stuff? Like, it's all good at first, and.

[John Holmberg]

Then you're like, why did I watch that? At first it's Tiger King stuff, and then you just can't get past like, how many. How much, like, damage this little thing does. And it's. And it's also kind of. It proves my point that all people are assholes, no matter what. I'm the. I'm the. I'm the only person in my. I truly believe this, that I may be the only person that understood what Martin Luther King was saying. Because he wasn't a white person. No, the only person in general, I think it might be the only. I have to explain it to so many people. When he said one day, you know, don't judge a man by the color of his skin, but by the content of his character, people applauded, like, that's beautiful. And what he was saying was, look, everybody can be an asshole. It doesn't matter what color you are. A dude could be a dick and be black, Asian, white. Didn't matter. So most likely you're gonna run into some assholes. Don't blame everybody in the race for being an asshole. And same goes for, like, handicapped people and whatever. You automatically give a little extra to something that you feel, you know, like, oh, I. I don't understand their plight. And so they have a little more leeway to be dickheads. But people who are crippled can be assholes, too. And it's just mean to tell somebody, like, you know what? I'll. I'll kick your ass. And, you know, get up out of that Wheelchair. And now we go. You know, doesn't mean that everybody's. So Martin Luther King wasn't saying, everybody needs a chance, everybody should be loved. No, no, no, no. He was basically saying, just assume that guy's an asshole, but don't blame everybody. He looks like. They're probably not all assholes. Brit's Italian people. If he was amazing, if he's a dick to you, he doesn't make. Don't hate all Italians based on one guy's behavior. That's what he was saying.

[Brady]

Happy birthday, MLK junior.

[John Holmberg]

It is his birthday, too. And that's why I'm telling you this, because I know what he really meant. Let me translate for mlk for the white people who couldn't understand it or never tried. And everybody else.

[Brady]

Don't we get the day off?

[John Holmberg]

Yeah, I don't know. I don't think we get it off. I don't. Do we get Monday, or did we get Monday off? No, I thought we had the President's day one. I don't know. Anyway, so Natalia Grace is one of those. Yeah, look, I'll show up when they tell me again. Again. My boss could be a Mexican. He's like, geez, he represents. No. Martin Luther King basically said, individual Mexicans can be dicks, too. So. But don't blame them all. So anyway, that's the same thing with Natalia Grace. You look at her and you kind of want to be like, oh, poor kid, poor. You know, she's going through all this, but it doesn't negate the fact that after a few chances, it's time to throw her out into the trash. She's horrible and like, oh, but she's crippled. Yeah, okay. But she's taking advantage of that one time too many. So she's destroyed this new family of little people that want to give her a chance because they understand, oh, you're little like us. But even they were like, I. I'm getting sick of this. I. You know, it's time that we just. We're going to look like assholes, but it's time to kick out the Midge. So the best part about the whole last series of shows, which are four of, was that this dude in England had been sexting with Natalia Grace, who I find Neil. Right, Neil. Okay. And yeah, yeah, thanks for remembering that Neil. And Neil was not. Did not want to be on camera. His voice could be on there, but. So I basically kind of assessed that Neil was making bar bets with his friends that he could get nudes of cripples all over the place. So he's searching the Internet going, got a new one, mate, watch this. And there's some. Some just getting naked pictures. And his friends are buying him drinks and pints at the bar. Well, it got a little too far with Neil and I think the bet got too high that Neil had to score with Natalia Grace for his friends. I think he owns a bar now. My guess is if you looked up whoever this Neil guy is, he is currently in the middle of a deed transfer with an owner of the Winchester. Because I couldn't believe you did it, Neil. I can't believe you did it. Because she flew out to England in the middle of taping. No cameras allowed in full out, everybody hates her here mode. She was ruining. Everything goes, goes to the uk, flies back now they'll take pictures of Neil, but his face is always blurred out. So it's just these body shots of Neil. And like, Neil's such an amazing man, the things he's done for her. She flew out, spent a couple weeks with Neil and came back angelic. So, whoops, sorry. Neil just absolutely the kind into this little, tiny crippled woman I know on the side. And then there's no real explanation of what happened. Like also somewhere in the paperwork, we don't know. Neil said no details, no nothing. But I laughed hysterically. When she gets on a plane and then all of a sudden she's back there was. They've been following her every step for like eight years. Two weeks off with Neil. Neil, I mean, just bangs the lights out of her, out of her little tiny, you know, her body is. Her hunched body, which looks like it's on a 90 degree angle because she got to get her spine straight. She's always bent over. So Neil took advantage of that, I'm sure. And Neil just banged her into kindness, sent her back to the family and everybody's getting along. I was dying. Dying the entire time because I'm like, nobody's really seeing this. Every. They're trying to make it seem like there was some sort of a connection. Neil's not coming back here. She's not going back there. Basically went out there to Neil and Neil's like, I got to do this. Neil owns a bar, so.

[Brady]

So that won't happen. Oh, I want you goes to the uk.

[John Holmberg]

Oh, no. Because it would be too depressing for the people who didn't see what really happened. They'd think it would be like some sort of a love thing. And what you'd realize was it was. It was a bet. There's no question it was a bet.

[Brady]

There are guys that have been following her. That's way too expensive. We can't do the overseas thing, right?

[John Holmberg]

There was a movie a few years ago that nobody saw. That was one. It's one of my favorite dark comedies that stops being a comedy midway through. I can't remember the name of it, but who played Harvey 2 face in that Batman movie? I forgot. Not Tommy Lee Jones, but the other one. Aaron Eckhart. Yeah, Aaron Eckhart. He's in a movie where there's the. He's just this player, like a womanizer, he's evil and he works with this guy who's kind of a nerd and they're. They're together on a lot of projects and good friends and they hire this deaf girl at the office and they make a bet on who can bang her first and then just break her heart and ditch her. Like that was. The goal is to like let her feel like she can get, you know, a normal guy. And they both do it. Only the nerdy guy kind of falls in love with her and the other guy cuts it off and like tries to destroy her life because that was the bet. It is so dark. That's what's going on with Neil because he's like, you're deaf, you're. He basically starts calling her names because she's got a handicap and he just destroys her. It's so hard to watch. But it's.

[Brady]

The other guy tells the other dude.

[John Holmberg]

And the other guy tells it's a bet. And he starts.

[Brady]

Really got into this.

[John Holmberg]

But he's truly in love. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, it's a great movie. And I think that's what's going on. That's what's going on with, with Neil up there in the uk except for he doesn't have a bet going with anybody else. He won a bar. So in a few years, my guess is Neil from the Natalia Grace thing will reveal himself with his new bar and say here's what happened.

[Brady]

His new bar, Half Pint.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah, yeah. Little is what it would be called. But it's worth watching because of that. If you watch with that perspective, women watch thinking she's horrible, she's horrible. And they think Neil's a saint. Neil's. No, Saint Neil is a. Neil's the dude that got her done. And anybody who bangs. I don't believe in love that way. I don't. If you do, you're crazy able bodied man banging a very disabled crippled person. That shouldn't be that should be illegal. That shouldn't be a thing. Love can't find its way that way. No, that's just a dude taking advantage of something, not just in a chair. Really. Like, you know, like the whole hunchback midship, things different.

[Brady]

The hunch is bad. I haven't seen her really walk around.

[John Holmberg]

It looks like she's charging. You see, I haven't watched it at.

[Brady]

All yet, so I'm kind of getting filled in from you.

[John Holmberg]

She's. If you're born that crippled right. And you know, three feet with a curve. Three feet, four, three. Even if you, you know, there's a certain aspect that an able bodied male with a tiny little midge, that's a fetish. Oh yeah. You know, you don't. That's not a. You're not. You didn't fall in love. Visit Holmberg's morning sickness online at 98kupd.com.

[Brady]

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[John Holmberg]

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[John Holmberg]

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[Brady]

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[John Holmberg]

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[Brady]

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[John Holmberg]

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[Brady]

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[John Holmberg]

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[Brady]

That's why I kind of believe in it.

[John Holmberg]

But a woman. A woman can do it, A man can't. I think a woman can fall in love with a man who has something bad. I don't think a man can fall in love with Natalia Grace if he's able bodied. You just. He just can't. And a woman like that, it just can't happen. If Brett came in here and he's like, I met a girl, and she's amazing. Like, good for you. Brett and Natalia Grace came in in her Frankenstein boots, 3ft 2, just a mess. We'd pull him aside and go, what are you doing? It's like, I'm in love. Nope.

[Brady]

She must be loaded.

[John Holmberg]

Or that. Right. There's an agenda. It has nothing to do with loving anybody. And Brady, even as nice as you are, the jokes between the two of us behind Brett's back would be. I mean, it would be like Internet comments. It would. It would be hours and hours. Expect nothing less. Right. Because you wouldn't do it. Love does no bounds.

[Brady]

I don't care. Love knows love.

[John Holmberg]

Love has boundaries all over. That's why we have divorce lawyers. There's boundaries to love everywhere, all over the place. She's let herself go. That's love. Boundaries. He's not the Man, I married love. Boundaries. Love has tons of boundaries. Anybody who believes that it's, you know, this, you know, infinite. It goes any direction and you can't. There's a crooked lead for every crooked pot. All right, but sometimes the crooked pot at 6 foot 2 banging that still.

[Brady]

Doesn'T say that has boundaries.

[John Holmberg]

That you're saying boundaries, Brady.

[Brady]

A crooked friends will have advice on. It does have boundaries.

[John Holmberg]

I agree with you because like boundaries.

[Brady]

Oh, it has boundaries. You shouldn't go for that one.

[John Holmberg]

Here's another thing. It's got boundaries. She's 16. I love her.

[Brady]

Well, boundaries.

[John Holmberg]

Boundaries.

[Brady]

That is a theory, a working theory.

[John Holmberg]

Boundaries. It's boundaries. Because we all know you can't fall in love with a 16 year old girl if you're 45.

[Brady]

That says she's 29.

[John Holmberg]

Natalia, Grace. I'm talking generally.

[Brady]

Yeah.

[John Holmberg]

We've placed boundaries on it. You can't love that. You're not allowed legally to love that. That means there's boundaries. Legal boundaries. Well, and we should have them for insanely. Like a judge should be able to look and go. Too crippled to love. You are too. You're too healthy and she's too crippled. Can't love her. Can't do it. No. No Romeo and Juliet ever happened.

[Brady]

16 necessarily isn't. Ask Benny Mardones. He'll tell about it. He'll tell you all about it.

[John Holmberg]

Why do you do this to me? And we think back at this and goes, boundaries, man. Boundaries. I don't believe in love like that. I don't think if. I think if you're. And that's why little people find other little people. And you know, you find somebody that's relatable. You can't take a normal sized guy who's healthy and able to do it. You can go to the bottled blonde and pull one out and put him with somebody who's 3ft 1. Crippled as can be. But if Neil wants to marry Natalia, should be illegal. It should not be allowed. No way. It's all for attention, Neil. Then something's wrong with Neil. Go find yourself an able bodied lady. Something. I love this one. No, you don't. This is for attention. This is for you can't do it. It can't be done. You wouldn't do it.

[Brady]

Yeah, but that's different, Neil.

[John Holmberg]

Why is that? I'm not talking about Neil. I'm talking about you. Because don't bring Neil.

[Brady]

I don't agree with saying no. You cannot. You know, if everything's legal, they're adults.

[John Holmberg]

So you have Boundaries.

[Brady]

Well, she's not an adult though, either.

[John Holmberg]

No, she is. Yeah, I'm not talking about. No, no, I'm not talking about that. Okay. I'm saying that if she came in this room and you started to like her too much, I would step in and go, hey, you need to. You need to pull it back here. You're taking advantage of a very disabled human.

[Brady]

Sorry, bro. I love her.

[John Holmberg]

I wouldn't believe you. I would not. I'd say something's wrong with you. Like you've got something. You've got something wrong with you that makes it so you're trying to take advantage of somebody like that. You. You don't. You have the capabilities of normalizing a relationship. For you to fall in love with her is taking advantage of some sort of child fetish or some sort of weird.

[Brady]

So you're saying the only fetish that Natalia could marry is a equally yoked.

[John Holmberg]

Pretty close. Well, it would have to be in her area. You know, it would have to be. You know, if it can't be, it. Because there's nothing.

[Brady]

I appreciate you saying I'm way too tall for.

[John Holmberg]

You're way too tall. You're waiting. Here's the thing.

[Brady]

Never heard.

[John Holmberg]

You're too normal of a grown up to be in her camp. Now you're about three inches away, so if you want to do some surgeries to knock down a couple inches, if you waddle in here one day, I'm like, brady's gonna have to get himself somebody that understands his situation.

[Brady]

Well, you know, it was two weeks ago. Is where the texts were on break. And you're like, you know, I was joking. I might be coming around on this Natalia Grace.

[John Holmberg]

Why? Because it's hilarious to think of me boning Natalia Grace. That's why I sent it out. I'm like, natalia Grace is hot. And the reason I said that she grew up pretty sexy is because they put her in makeup and they're putting her on the COVID of People magazine.

[Brady]

I know.

[John Holmberg]

I know you know, but you made my point for me by trying to be a jackass and contrarian is basically say when I made that joke, that would be absurd for John to start thinking that Natalia. But racist.

[Brady]

But the other way around for women.

[John Holmberg]

Totally different. They're empathetic creatures.

[Brady]

They know how to handle the situation.

[John Holmberg]

They know how to hand. They like to be nurturers and caretakers to things that need them. They try to fix everything. They try to fix it. And if they can't fix it, they like to nurture and care for things that are broken. If when I told you Natalia Graves was hot, what was your response? Yuck. No way. So you yucked her. I said she was hot because I looked into it.

[Brady]

I thought maybe you had something too.

[John Holmberg]

Right. And you text back after one viewing.

[Brady]

And said up some other images. Like did she get up and what did she say?

[John Holmberg]

I can read it. It doesn't matter if she had a makeover. What did you say?

[Brady]

Yuck.

[John Holmberg]

Yuck. Period. End of story. That's it.

[Brady]

There is no makeover good enough for that. The twinks from the Fab Five guys couldn't even do this well, I'll tell you that that People magazine headshot right there is the best one. She's.

[John Holmberg]

Don't try to defend your yuck. You threw a yuck at me because, you know, little arms out, that it isn't normal and it's somewhat disgusting for an able bodied man to take advantage of somebody that disabled. It would be wrong of me. And you would think, what's he doing? Like there's. You're taking advantage of her. Like she's. No you. You have the capability of doing something else and you're not. This is wrong. I don't believe in love like that. I don't think that kind of love exists. I just fell in love with Natalia. What do you have in common with her? I mean, I. Nothing. But I mean she, she wants it. She's going to have a hard time getting it. So this isn't. It's an easy mark, you know, it's like, it's like LeBron James going and playing in the WNBA. It's like, this isn't fair. He's going to. This is going to be easy. He's going to score. You could pretend like that's a thing, but you deep down know that every friend you've got coming into the room with her, you would immediately go, something's wrong with that guy. Immediately you wouldn't be like, that's beautiful. Nobody does. Women kind of do. But nobody would think that was a He's married. And you would be the first to tell us. You remember Brian? Yeah, he's dating some Midge. And we'd be joking all the time about why Brian decided that was the route for him. Hilarious.

[Brady]

Chris Clark says, come on, man, just imagine the size of your junk in her hands.

[John Holmberg]

Thank you. You're making my points for me.

[Brady]

Knew that was.

[John Holmberg]

This is exactly what. There's something wrong with that guy to think, you know what that little hand's gonna make my tiny penis finally. I can finally feel like a man. It's your mental disorder that would make you want to pursue her boundaries. That shouldn't be right. Because I'm telling you right now, that Neil guy in the uk, it's gonna. It's gonna destroy this. This crippled little lady.

[Brady]

Apparently, the movie you're talking about was thank you for smoking.

[John Holmberg]

No, different one. No, it was something. I can't remember, but it was a. It's a good movie if you. I'll find it and I'll remind everybody, but can't remember the name.

[Brady]

It's dark.

[John Holmberg]

Oh, it's a great movie, though. It's so good. But yeah. So the Natalia Grace thing ended. And if you were, you know, thinking, oh, she found love, just know Neil's. Neil's as bad as those people that are trying to get, you know, old ladies to send them money. It's. It's saying, it's a lady who's lonely. It's a lady who can't find love, can't do anything about it. And they're like, I'm gonna take advantage of this. You're doing the same thing to Natalia, period.

[Brady]

Donovan says, big difference between boning and marrying Natalia, John.

[John Holmberg]

Oh, sure, yeah, if you want to. It's like dwarf tossing. We were allowed to do that for a while. And so people are like, you know, this is kind of taking advantage of. I'm like, they want to do it, do they? I mean, I watch Wall Street. I'll watch it, right? I'll definitely watch it with a smile on my face. But I also know deep down, this isn't right. Happy MLK Day, everybody. Boundaries. MLK would have done that too. I have a dream one day, little, tiny whatever she is, people will be not allowed to marry really full sized white people. It's just weird and wrong. That don't fly. Martin Luther King's right. It's all about us now. Yeah. If you're in a wheelchair and your body's still, you know, you're still a large person. Like, if you're just. If you're crippled to the point where, like, you shouldn't be able bodied, people shouldn't just find you online and bone you. It's wrong if you have to pick somebody up out of the chair, start rolling them around and they're, like, unable to fight back or anything. Yeah, you're doing something terrible. That's just how I feel about it. There's something wrong with a guy who can't find something that isn't Crippled. Too many options out there. Too many. If Larry came in here with her. Come on, come on.

[Brady]

The closest thing that said, okay, you're.

[John Holmberg]

Looking for a nice way to. You think it's mean, what I'm saying? I don't think crippled people should want an able bodied person think that they take advantage of them. There's that lady right now. Larry's a provider and we would pull them aside, go, what are you doing? Have you quit? I'm in love. You are not in love. You are in desperation. And you are doing something weird right now. You got to stop. I don't find. I don't find those things beautiful. I think that's creepy and weird. Really? It's like if. It's the same thing as if Brett came in here with a. She's 88. You have an 88 year old girl? Yeah, she's an 88 year old bag of bones. And I love her. Like, what is going. What is the agenda here? She loaded? What are you getting out of this? No, I just love stage five. None of us believe in. None of us believe in love like that. None of us. You would never try to go, that's beautiful. You guys are rude. We'd be going, something's wrong with Brett's life. You found some old lady. You don't see that. You don't want to see that. You wouldn't want your mom to have it happen.

[Brady]

We'd need more of a trend, right? Like, he's always dated older women.

[John Holmberg]

Okay. Bunny's like out of Blue. She's 80 something.

[Brady]

But I'm saying, like, you're saying the. The shock would be he's never done that before, and all of a sudden he's in love with this 88 year old woman.

[John Holmberg]

Because it's hard to do that.

[Brady]

Something's going on there. It'd be hard not to question.

[John Holmberg]

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[John Holmberg]

Morning sickness. What's this guy doing? Yeah, what's going on?

[Brady]

What's the agenda here?

[John Holmberg]

Dad worked too hard for you to hand it to this jackass. What's going on here? That's why you got to keep an eye on your par. That lady that just sent the fake Brad Pitt $900,000.

[Brady]

850.

[John Holmberg]

She's been sending him money like crazy. And he sent pictures, said he had cancer, he's gonna die soon. And then pictures of him in a.

[Brady]

Hospital going through the divorce with Angelina.

[John Holmberg]

They weren't very good pictures.

[Brady]

And she's counts are frozen.

[John Holmberg]

I'm doing this. And she sent over $900,000 to this guy over time. And, and then she got curious when she saw Brad Pigeon in an awards show with a girlfriend that she. Wait a minute. That's he's with some lady.

[Brady]

She didn't wonder why she didn't get the Invite.

[John Holmberg]

No, because too many people get lost and blinded by Hallmark love that doesn't exist. And her friends were probably like, I can't believe this is happening to you. They're in this whirlwind of BS and then they act like council frozen.

[Brady]

So send them to this Turkish bank.

[John Holmberg]

Right? And she did it because the picture, he's sending me pictures. And the pictures were Brad Pitt's head on a guy in a hospital that had a. Like a time in the gown that would say, I love you, Ann. And she's like, you can't fake that. Like, he's writing notes to me and holding them up. So she sent him all her money and then she wants to play victims. I say, lesson learned.

[Brady]

Even his mom got into it.

[John Holmberg]

Brad Pitt's mom?

[Brady]

Yeah. Started sending the lady stuff saying, oh, thank you so much.

[John Holmberg]

And oh, fake.

[Brady]

Not the real first pretended to be Brad's mom, right?

[John Holmberg]

Yeah. But they just kind of out of the blue. Bottom line is you're not a victim, you're an idiot.

[Brady]

So, John, you're saying no loving under that adorable blanket?

[John Holmberg]

Yeah.

[Brady]

Okay. Yes.

[John Holmberg]

If some able bodied lady came and started to bang on Caleb for a little while, he'd be like, what in the world is wrong with her brain? Why is Caleb the object of her affection? I just. He's almost of age now too. He is no longer cute.

[Brady]

The first guy Alex is, or I.

[John Holmberg]

Think Alex way of age. But yeah, people, if some lady was just like, I'm gonna start boning Alec, you'd be like, what did your uncle do to you that made this a thing that you think is a good idea? I don't believe in love like that.

[Brady]

I saw one the other day. Oh, this is a new one. No, it's like 20 years old. Because all sudden Caleb came up.

[John Holmberg]

Oh, he's just tiny. Oh, you see old Caleb and new kid.

[Brady]

I thought I. Because I don't recognize a couple of them. But that new Caleb blanket.

[John Holmberg]

New Caleb looks like he's like late teens now and he's got kind of acne. And he's not the same. He's not the same at all. It's in the Company of Men is the movie with Aaron Eckhart. Thank you, Nick Rivera. That's it.

[Brady]

Oh, man.

[John Holmberg]

In the company of men.

[Brady]

Alec is 21 now.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah, Alex, he's cruising the bars. Alex been drinking for same at the.

[Brady]

Bottle Blonde this weekend.

[John Holmberg]

I'm sure the girls are like, I don't know what it is about this Stephanie, but that little one over there with no neck. It looks like a pumpkin sitting in the chair. I can't get enough of him. What's wrong with you? I don't know. My uncle used to finger me a lot and I think I've got some mental damage. I'm gonna go roll around with that guy who can't walk.

[Brady]

Caleb's 16.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah. And he looks every bit of it. He looks like that awkward teen boy. They don't use him in commercials with new Caleb. They roll out seven year old Caleb.

[Brady]

Hey, everybody.

[John Holmberg]

I got eight broken bones, like, aw, poor little guy. You're adorable. And now he's like, I want to beat off a little bit. I'm kind of at that age. But my hands don't work. Will you do it? Don't beat off. Don't beat him off, please. That makes you creepy guy says, F you, John. Cripples need love to sign Stephen Hawking. Yes. And Stephen Hawking, he got it. He got it. But Stephen Hawking was some sort of magician. We're not real sure, but I'm still pretty sure that that caretaker lady had a screw loose because first off, she was in Stephen Hawking's house to wipe him and clean him all the time and then managed to fall in love. Had a little Florence Nightingale situation brewing there.

[Brady]

The famous thing, going to a little.

[John Holmberg]

Fame, some money, you know, he was quick witted, evidently. When he got that computer going, it was pretty funny. Dave, you heard the one about the Pollock and the Jew walking into the bar. You're so funny, Stephen. Yes, I know. Yeah. So it, yeah, I don't buy into that. I don't. I don't find love to be that boundless. And I certainly don't think it's beautiful. I certainly don't think that would be a beautiful. I wouldn't go to a wedding and start crying going, I can't believe these two kids found each other. She 3ft 1 inches tall with Frankenstein boots and him just a normal fella who fell in love with. No, doesn't happen. You have too much peer pressure from your pals. That's it. Speaking of love, I got this email yesterday. I read this, says yesterday afternoon meeting. I guess that would be Monday. I got a restraining order from a girl I had slept with about 15 times. Most recently slept with her three weeks ago. Her last words to me in person were, I think I'm falling in love with you. I cannot get enough of you, Cody. Naturally, I think everything's going well. So I text her and called next few days. She didn't respond to me. So I got a little curious. Text a few more times. Then I start texting regularly to say, hey, at least let me know you're okay. What happened? Reach out. Ten days went by, and I drove to her house in Santan and knocked and knocked and knocked. Nobody answered. Called her work a couple of times, asked for her. They said she was there, but she was in the middle of a meeting. She'll call me back. Never did. So I know she's alive. So I'm at work. Front desk girl says there's a cop here at the door who needs to talk to me. Tells me I get an order of protection, blah, blah, blah. All the rules. Get a lawyer, yada, yada, Court case, wtf, man. Now everybody at work thinks I'm a crazy stalker. This is devastating me. I can't even go show my face anymore. Cody, how about that right there at work? You get that? Broads be crazy. Broads be crazy. That's it, Cody. Just consider this your lucky charm. The best day of your life. Oops. Are the best day of your life because you are now legally not allowed to be around that girl. And that is a gift, like she made it. So you have to never talk to her. I don't know how long the restraining orders are. I don't know. Never ever talk to her or be close to her for a year, which is fantastic. Work on your end. Good work, Cody. I had that old lady, years ago drop one on me because I. She thought I was following around that because I yelled at her once. I was climbing that sidewalk and I shouted at her. And next thing you know, she's got the authorities involved because I was behind her at a stoplight. I didn't even know. And she took pictures of me, said I was following her. I was just going down 20th Street. I didn't know what. I didn't even know what kind of car she had. I'm like, what? But I had, in fairness, driven by her house a few times and called her the C word. When I saw her, I yelled, she had a thing. I had a thing. We went back and forth about three weeks. She was an old lady. I'm a dude driving over sidewalks. She was a touch intimidated. She'd yell at me at first, and then I started screaming her. And then it got a little bit heated, but, yeah, that's not a good feeling. But still, I didn't bang her. And it goes away. Look, you can get a lawyer. You can make it all go away, or you can just let it Sit out there for as long as it needs to last and use it as your catalyst to every time you think about calling or realize that if you do, you're going to jail. She gave you a gift. Bitches be crazy, like Brett said. Now, is she full size? Is she in a wheelchair? Or like, was the love too strange to. Maybe you shouldn't have been doing this.

[Brady]

Her husband didn't like it. What?

[John Holmberg]

You know, don't know. Yeah, whatever it is, the gift you've been given is complete separation. She's bananas and she revealed herself. It's time for you to just take advantage of the fact that the law won't let you be in the same area as her. That's great stuff. It's designed to protect you. Don't make the mistake of calling. And she's crazy obvious. So more than likely she's going to reach out to you. Don't respond because then you can go to jail. I learned that with that crazy lady, is that if she contacted me and I responded, I'm still the one that gets in trouble. The person who gives you a those protective orders can contact you all they want. You can't respond. The second you do, they can turn you in. It's crazy. Just ignore her. She's gone from your life. What you basically got ghosting got. Went wrong, evidently. Whatever.

[Brady]

That was a hard ghost.

[John Holmberg]

That cop that showed up, essentially, you have to look at it like this. Cody, he just handed you a notice of death. That woman that you liked, she. She's dead. And that's basically what he handed you guys. I'm sorry to give you this information, but she's dead. She's dead and gone and you never talk to her again. Oh, that's good stuff. It's no fun. Good thing. It's a good thing. Look at it and tell everybody at your office. This lunatic thinks I'm following her around.

[Brady]

Well, why don't you reach out to him and tell him you're not interested anymore?

[John Holmberg]

Yeah. She didn't.

[Brady]

Nope.

[John Holmberg]

She decided to do it with a copy. Might as well been adjusted.

[Brady]

Well, if I don't say anything, he'll just go away.

[John Holmberg]

No. Makes you crazy. Anyway, she's dead to you. Like, you see when people get the American flag at the door and there's a lot of tears. That's essentially what just happened. Cop came by, said, I'm sorry to tell you that that insane piece of ass that you've been having so much fun with passed away. Oh, my God. But different kind of passed away because you might see her at the mall. And if you do, run the other direction because they have to come arrest you. So kill her. In your brain. Not in real life though, Cuz you've got jod arus on your hands, my friend. Then that could get crazy. Let's get a wake up song, shall we? A good one to start this day off. 585 9800, that's the phone number and we'll scream it together. It's 98 KUPD. Wake up, it's out of control now. 98, can you PT?