01-16-25 - Thursdays w/Former Dallas Cowboy OLineman Dale Hellestrae - Thoughts On Who Will Be Next Cowboys Head Coach - Picks For NFL Divisional Weekend

Summary

Holmberg's Morning Sickness - Arizona: Episode Summary (January 16, 2025)

Episode Title: Thursdays w/ Former Dallas Cowboy OLineman Dale Hellestrae
Host: John Holmberg
Guests: Dale Hellestrae, Brady Bogen, Bret Vesely, Dick Toledo
Duration: Approximately 26 minutes and 33 seconds
Release Date: January 16, 2025

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1. Introduction and Comedy Highlights [00:00 - 00:31]

The episode opens with John Holmberg promoting upcoming comedy shows in the Valley, highlighting performances at various venues such as the Tempe Improv and Stand Up Live. While this segment provides valuable information for listeners interested in local entertainment, it is brief and sets the stage for the more substantial discussions to follow.

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2. Personal Anecdotes and Lighthearted Banter [00:31 - 12:25]

Dale Hellestrae shares a testimonial for the Core Institute, emphasizing the importance of trusting experts to overcome physical setbacks:

“...you can get rid of your pain and start saying yes, I can to all the things you want to do. And all you have to do is trust the experts at the Core Institute.” [09:22]

The conversation quickly shifts to playful teasing between Dale and Brady Bogen about roses and relationship dynamics. Their back-and-forth includes humorous exchanges about public appearances, personal crushes, and marital interactions, showcasing their camaraderie and chemistry.

Noteworthy exchanges include:

• Brady: “How are the roses I gave Megan? Are they flourishing?” [01:34]

• Dale: “It's one less set of flowers I'll ever have to buy. But again, hates flowers.” [05:16]

This segment underscores the hosts' ability to blend personal stories with humor, creating an engaging and relatable atmosphere for listeners.

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3. Discussion on NFL Coaching Speculations [12:31 - 18:13]

The conversation pivots to a central topic: speculation about the next head coach for the Dallas Cowboys. Dale Hellestrae and Brady Bogen delve into the complexities surrounding potential candidates, particularly focusing on the influence of acclaimed figures like Deion Sanders.

Dale raises the question of whether Brady has been approached by Jerry Jones for the coaching position, highlighting the tumultuous relationship between Jones and former players:

“He's gonna get Deion. If Deion called you with all your high school coaching success, Dale, I want you to come out here coaching me.” [15:33]

Brady discusses the possibility of working under Dion Sanders, reflecting on past interactions and the dynamics of team leadership:

“The one thing I will give him is. Disliked him very much as a teammate. Yeah. Did not like his Personas, personalities, work ethic and all that. He was super talented.” [16:52]

The hosts analyze the implications of such a coaching appointment, debating the balance between personal sentiments and professional responsibilities. This section provides listeners with insider perspectives on NFL coaching dynamics and the specific challenges facing the Cowboys.

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4. NFL Divisional Weekend Picks [18:13 - 26:24]

A significant portion of the episode is dedicated to predicting outcomes for the upcoming NFL Divisional Weekend. Dale and Brady present their picks for various games, discussing spreads, team performances, and player impacts.

Key Picks and Insights:

• Chiefs vs. Texans:

  • Dale: “Take the Texans plus eight and a half.” [19:23]
  • Brady: “I'm putting that down.” [19:23]

• Detroit Lions vs. Washington Commanders:

  • Dale: “Take the points.” [20:32]
  • Brady: “Take Detroit straight up.” [21:00]

• Rams vs. Eagles:

  • Dale: “Rams plus six and a half.” [21:06]
  • Brady: “I take Philadelphia straight up. But I would take the Rams.” [22:14]

• Ravens vs. Bills:

  • Dale: “Bills are a home underdog.” [23:11]
  • Brady: Eventually picks the Buffalo Bills after playful resistance. [23:24]

Throughout their analysis, the hosts incorporate humor and personal anecdotes, such as Brady's recounting of his experience with the Wonderlic test:

“Nobody knew what the damn combine was. Right. I got a nice little invite from the NFL...” [23:45]

This segment not only provides entertainment but also valuable insights for listeners interested in NFL betting and game predictions.

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5. Conclusion and Final Remarks [26:24 - 26:33]

As the episode draws to a close, Dale humorously criticizes Brady's betting picks, reinforcing the ongoing playful rivalry between the hosts:

“Dale's ruined everything.” [26:25]

He wraps up by teasing upcoming segments, ensuring listeners remain engaged for future episodes.

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Notable Quotes

• Dale Hellestrae on trust and recovery:

  “...you can get rid of your pain and start saying yes, I can to all the things you want to do.” [09:22]

• Brady Bogen on relationship humor:

  “How are the roses I gave Megan? Are they flourishing?” [01:34]

• Discussion on coaching dynamics:

  “He's gonna get Deion. If Deion called you with all your high school coaching success, Dale, I want you to come out here coaching me.” [15:33]

• Brady on Wonderlic test experience:

  “Nobody knew what the damn combine was. Right.” [23:45]

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Insights and Conclusions

This episode adeptly balances humor, personal anecdotes, and in-depth NFL analysis, making it a compelling listen for fans of the Dallas Cowboys and football enthusiasts in general. The playful interactions between Dale and Brady provide an entertaining backdrop to serious discussions about coaching strategies and game predictions. Additionally, the inclusion of listener interactions and real-life experiences adds authenticity and relatability to the podcast.

Listeners can expect a blend of laughter, insightful commentary, and valuable sports betting tips, all delivered in Holmberg's signature engaging style. Whether you're a die-hard Cowboys fan or simply enjoy lively sports debates, this episode offers something for everyone.

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Transcript

[John Holmberg]

All right, HMS Podcast, time again to let you know where to go for some great comedy in the Valley this week. Get out to the Tempe Improv on the east side to see Paul Versey on Thursday and Beth Stelling Friday, Saturday, and Sunday. The Desert Ridge Improv up north features Sarah Weinschenk this Thursday and Joe Derosa on Friday and Saturday. And downtown at Stand Up Live, check out the very funny Lil Rel performing Friday, Saturday and Sunday for the complete lineups. And for tickets, go to standuplive.com desertridgeimprov.com and tempeimprov.com it's John Holberg here for.

[Dale Hellstray]

The amazing people at the Core Institute, life can throw you a curveball now and again. One day you're trucking along, feeling great. Next day your dog smashes into your head and knocks you cold. Or like a KUPD listener told me this week, his dog did a sprint across the backyard directly into the side of his wife's leg and blew her knee up. She needed that need to get fixed and fixed right? Two years later, she's running like she used to again. And it's all thanks to the Core Institute. I went through it, too. And you can get rid of your pain and start saying yes, I can to all the things you want to do. And all you have to do is trust the experts at the Core Institute. Head there right now. The Core Institute.com 09:22 Tail Settle down. I have. You took forever to get up the stairs.

[Brady]

You waste 15 minutes with that nonsense.

[Dale Hellstray]

Lincoln Park. And we were wasting it because you had a lot to say about nothing and we wanted to get out. We got to take a break. All right. We're going to take a little break here before we get to D. Dale hell is here. Everybody.

[Brady]

Got to ask a couple questions real quick.

[Dale Hellstray]

Go ahead.

[Brady]

How are the roses I gave Megan? Are they flourishing?

[Dale Hellstray]

No. You know how roses work, right?

[Brady]

Yeah.

[Dale Hellstray]

Dale brought roses to the house in a. In a cup with a heart on. Did the handle's a heart. And he. Because. And. But tell everybody what happened when you walked in my house Saturday with your cup of roses. Well, you act like you don't remember when you walked in the room and we saw that you were there. I got booed violently by everyone there.

[Brady]

I got booed. But again, I. I look at that. I look at the clientele.

[Dale Hellstray]

No, it doesn't matter.

[Brady]

It doesn't really hurt your feelings.

[Dale Hellstray]

Doesn't matter.

[Brady]

Every one of those guys could have been trafficked.

[Dale Hellstray]

25 people see you and then you hear, oh, Dale's here. And nobody planned it, and nobody started. It was in unison. Ravens gear.

[Brady]

My Ravens gear. And I said, where's Megan? Because Megan never gets anything. She's the one who puts on. I asked you this.

[Dale Hellstray]

When's the last time you bought Brooklyn flowers? And your face.

[Brady]

It's been a minute. Good things. You don't listen.

[Dale Hellstray]

And I said, maybe I'll send a picture to Brooke of the flowers you bought for this lady here.

[Brady]

You went on security records or whatever and thought you had our phone number.

[Dale Hellstray]

I do. And he goes, I have your phone number. So I said, I want to talk to your wife. He won't introduce me to his wife for probably many good reasons. First off, she'll finally see what a real man shaped like. Second, she'll understand what actual funny people are. And then I said, well, I found her phone number online. Easy. He goes, well, that's an old number. Yeah. All right, we'll test that theory.

[Brady]

That's three numbers ago. Well, then I'll find one of the three.

[Dale Hellstray]

I'll just keep calling till I hit one.

[Brady]

But all I know is that I walked in, I said, where's Megan? I have. I have. You know, I think it's a half dozen roses. And again, it was three roses. You're. Shut up.

[Dale Hellstray]

It was three roses in a cup.

[Brady]

Very pretty. They're blossoming. And Megan jumped up and come and gave me a big hug.

[Dale Hellstray]

First off, that wasn't me.

[Brady]

And then the next thing I know is that she's sitting next to me watching the football game.

[Dale Hellstray]

Gravitational pull. And I don't think that happened. You were late. She had already had a seat. You sat next to her, and then.

[Brady]

She got up and moved, right?

[Dale Hellstray]

And then, to her surprise, you sat next to her.

[Brady]

Magnet. You're a magnet. You don't know what that feels like.

[Dale Hellstray]

Something that almost rhymes with magnet is what I want to call you. Why won't you introduce John to her? But you introduced Michael Irvin to her. I made a point.

[Brady]

Because Michael Irvin knows how to act around women.

[Dale Hellstray]

Yeah. Wow, you've been.

[Dick Toledo]

You're worried about John.

[Dale Hellstray]

Michael Irvin. Jesus. I know exactly where to go. Beast mode.

[Brady]

I don't go. Beast mode is somebody's house. Now, then. Then we walk away from Brooke, and Michael becomes Michael again. John would be extra saucy. Just. No, I wouldn't. I'm.

[Dale Hellstray]

Please, John. John's real. That's why. That's exactly right. They see you in your little bow tie and your tiny, short Pants.

[Brady]

Your best behavior. My life watching.

[Dale Hellstray]

So, anyway, you got food, you sat down.

[Brady]

Did she plant the roses somewhere?

[Dale Hellstray]

You can't do. That's not how it works. They're dead when you buy them. She didn't put them in the ground.

[Brady]

Yeah.

[Dale Hellstray]

Oh, she planted them, all right. Bottom of the garbage.

[Brady]

You can rejuvenate them.

[Dale Hellstray]

What a woman. Yeah, that's rude.

[Brady]

Are they in your bedroom?

[Dick Toledo]

Expensive?

[Brady]

No, they're on. On our side table by the bed.

[Dale Hellstray]

Yes, they are. With pictures of you everywhere and stuff. Oh, yeah. It's a shrine. Yeah, that's exactly what I know. They're on that. They're in the kitchen on the little, like, table. And they're dying.

[Dick Toledo]

They can't be.

[Dale Hellstray]

Yeah.

[Brady]

That'S. That's plenty.

[Dale Hellstray]

I don't know that they lasted a week. They're just not thrown out yet.

[Brady]

Well, of course.

[Dale Hellstray]

Well, of course not.

[Brady]

Yeah. There's too much sentimentality the rest of the week and. Hey, those are death. Throw away. Honey, I can't.

[Dale Hellstray]

I don't care.

[Brady]

It's fine.

[Dale Hellstray]

It's one less set of flowers I'll ever have to buy. But again, hates flowers.

[Brady]

She. She told me different.

[Dale Hellstray]

She didn't want to hurt your feelings. She looked fragile.

[Brady]

I'd wear her jersey.

[Dale Hellstray]

Oh, is. Oh, would you? You heard that this morning. Am I wrong? Would you ever wear a Brook jersey? No, but you'll wear a Cowboys jersey. You'll wear.

[Brady]

And you don't. You don't wear a visiting jersey. Especially Philadelphia.

[Dale Hellstray]

Exactly.

[Brady]

Oakland.

[Dale Hellstray]

Did they warn the Cowboy back in the 90s? I bet you for sure.

[Brady]

Yes.

[Dale Hellstray]

Do not wander around in your Cowboys gear. Media team.

[Brady]

No. Like, Brook would. Probably went on five road trips to towns that we knew. Like, Jason Garrett went to the Giants. Right. Brook took the girls there over Giants weekend. They toured New York City. And I said, you don't wear anything cowboy related to Giant Stadium.

[Dale Hellstray]

No.

[Brady]

And. And they were sitting in the player section, but there's still some.

[Dale Hellstray]

Oh, they're going to be horrible, too. And on purpose. They know who's. They know the family section. They're not dumb.

[Brady]

Yeah.

[Dale Hellstray]

Yeah. I remember that with the Cardinals when I was sitting in those media meetings and I. I just did home games.

[Brady]

Yeah.

[Dale Hellstray]

Like, all right, we're going to O. Oakland.

[Brady]

Yeah.

[Dale Hellstray]

Gonna go through the rules one more time. Get off the bus. You are not in Cardinal gear. We're walking to the stadium. Not in Cardinal gear. Once we're in, we're fine.

[Brady]

Right.

[Dale Hellstray]

Shields, tell your families if they're going to this game, do not wander around in this game. It was the Cardinals and Raiders. The Raiders just. The opposing team was going to catch hell.

[Brady]

Well, even back in the day when candlestick was in play and you'd play a Candlestick, the car. The Cowboys fans are getting fights. The 49er fans like to fight here. Yeah. And I don't. I don't understand. Why would you ever go to a football game wanting to fight somebody? I don't understand. I don't think you want to.

[Dale Hellstray]

I think you end up with it.

[Brady]

In your mind that, you know, there's a. There's a percentage that say, we're gonna fight today.

[Dale Hellstray]

Hooligans.

[Brady]

Yeah. And I'm like, I don't understand that.

[Dick Toledo]

Well, they might be a little angry going in because we spent so much money just to watch this game.

[Dale Hellstray]

Yeah. I think there's a mentality of like, you know, planting the fl. Going to protect the house. But that's what the team's advertising is protect the nest.

[Dick Toledo]

You're back in your.

[Dale Hellstray]

When you say protect the nest or, you know, you know, the, The. What do they call the backyard brawl in Pittsburgh and West Virginia?

[Brady]

Right.

[Dale Hellstray]

Everything is about like, don't let them have our house. It's all right. This is dangerous. Like a dangerous thing because you could.

[Brady]

Go to Green Bay and. And they are loud and they are proud and all, but they're. They don't mess with other people.

[Dale Hellstray]

But the Steelers, Green Bay, Super Bowl, I couldn't have been more like. It was so pleasant to lose to that. Yes, they were welcoming. My God, they were so nice. All dressed like Pete. Like Dale is today in the green and the yellow. Peas and corn. They look stupid. They're wandering around in these dumb houses.

[Brady]

Saying the masters is penis.

[Dale Hellstray]

Penis. What? You said that green and peas and corn. Not as bad as the packers outfits.

[Brady]

Yeah, it's a master, Johnny.

[Dale Hellstray]

Yeah, I know. Well, you're not playing in it. You just look like a weirdo.

[Brady]

I turned down my empire.

[Dale Hellstray]

Oh, did you?

[Brady]

Yeah.

[Dale Hellstray]

You should have.

[Brady]

Yeah.

[Dale Hellstray]

Well, before we get into this, somebody emailed me and I think I don't have the answer to this. I don't know. But it said, john, you have that crush on Dua Lipa, which. Yes, I do. And. And they said, but we. They want to know what all the other wives crushes are. And they assumed that. Brett, you said yours was Bradley Cooper. Bradley Cooper. Now somebody wanted that. And then they assumed Brady's wife's crush is Guy Fieri.

[Dick Toledo]

Guy Fieri.

[Brady]

Probably like big guys.

[Dick Toledo]

Jason Momoa she likes.

[Dale Hellstray]

Yeah, because that's her.

[Brady]

She's heard about that.

[Dale Hellstray]

Well, she's also seen what it could be. Nobody picks the same thing they married.

[Brady]

That's dumb.

[Dale Hellstray]

When you've got that chunk sitting at home. Why would you.

[Dick Toledo]

It was Paul Williams.

[Dale Hellstray]

Yeah, well, Brady tried to tell us once he fantasized when he masturbates about his wife. And I'm like, why? She's right there.

[Dick Toledo]

That's all I think about. Dale.

[Dale Hellstray]

He's trying to pull that wool over our eyes.

[Dick Toledo]

I'm like, what do I think about Dale?

[Brady]

You've been actually caught by your wife.

[Dale Hellstray]

Yeah.

[Dick Toledo]

Yeah.

[Brady]

Well prepared.

[Dick Toledo]

Yeah. She's pre.

[Dale Hellstray]

Yeah.

[Brady]

You got caught. You got Kleenex and on the.

[Dale Hellstray]

On the armrest of his couch facing the fish tank.

[Brady]

Your wife.

[Dale Hellstray]

Yeah. Right before the wedding. Yeah. Came down the hall, looked at him like, really? That's the leak.

[Brady]

Mid stroke or.

[Dale Hellstray]

No, no, no.

[Dick Toledo]

Just prepping. Nothing was. You know, just had the.

[Dale Hellstray]

She was in the house? Yeah, she was in bed. He got out of bed and walked down the hall. Oh, I thought she came home or something like that.

[Dick Toledo]

No, no.

[Dale Hellstray]

Wow.

[Dick Toledo]

And you know it all.

[Dale Hellstray]

Go to the bathroom and lock the door. Go to the bathroom. But she got. She was awakened because she heard in the other room. Celebrate me.

[Dick Toledo]

I had my tunes on the head.

[Brady]

Leave.

[Dale Hellstray]

Why is Brady singing out there? I'm gonna take a gander at this.

[Brady]

So did you just scoop everything up and go. Put it away and go climb.

[Dick Toledo]

She just went by. What are you doing? Nothing. I just.

[John Holmberg]

Oh, my God.

[Dale Hellstray]

Who do you think. Who do you think, Brooks?

[Brady]

You know what? I was thinking about that. I don't. I don't. My head. I don't know. I mean, I obviously think there's certain actors that are attractive.

[Dale Hellstray]

Well, yeah, that's what kind of what we're going for. Like the Dua lipa thing where I joined Al Qaeda.

[Brady]

Yeah, but. But.

[Dale Hellstray]

But when you don't do it, don't say it. See, no, she's so. You've ruined all mankind in a worst possible way. She has no faith in humanity. Even look at another man.

[Brady]

Did you think about who Megan's was?

[Dale Hellstray]

Yeah. So it's probably a girl.

[Brady]

Why? Because.

[Dale Hellstray]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Brady]

You don't think. You don't think it's me.

[Dale Hellstray]

I think. I think that I have actually, in the worst possible way, ruined things for her to ever think about a man getting attractive. So I would probably say not like I'm the pinnacle, but I. I'm. I'm the wrecking ball. She Talks about Sabrina Carpenter a lot. She's. Yeah, Sabrina Carpenter's hot. She's got, like, a girl crush on her. Oh, yeah. She's some singer that's doing some stuff now.

[Brady]

Oh, okay.

[Dale Hellstray]

I don't mind that.

[Brady]

So. So, Brady, you don't think of something like that. You think of your wife.

[Dale Hellstray]

That's.

[Dick Toledo]

That's it. That's right.

[Dale Hellstray]

Dale, he's playing it now, but when we brought up I think of my wife, we all were like, why? Why in the world I think of your wife?

[Brady]

Why do you do it?

[Dale Hellstray]

Why would you fantasize about the thing you've got?

[Brady]

It's celibacy.

[Dale Hellstray]

Yeah. It's disgusting.

[Brady]

It's so faithful.

[Dale Hellstray]

Truly perverted. It's like something really wrong. I can't even imagine, like, thinking that, like, the last time you think about it. Yuck. Yuck. And you think she's doing the same? You think she's down there? Yep.

[Brady]

Nope. Nope.

[Dale Hellstray]

No, not at all. Like, the last thing she's thinking about is you ripping that CPAP off and loving her. That is not. You just painted the picture. I know. And I just. I am your father.

[Dick Toledo]

Call me daddy.

[Dale Hellstray]

All right, we gotta take a break. To ludicrous. Take a break. Dale's gonna give us his fanduel pics and some thoughts on the suns in just moments. It's 98.

[Brady]

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[Dale Hellstray]

To Holmberg's morning sickness. All right, Dale Hell street joins us on Thursdays. FanDuel's a part of this thing and Dale has yet to make any picks that have mattered. We knew it was. I lost money last week. Thanks. You did. You followed Dale's thing and when he said the Steelers not only were going to cover the spread, but we're going to win, we all knew. Crushed on both. I got an email from a guy that says, please don't let that giant jinx say any predictions out loud. Let the big oaf write it down and whoever wants can read it. He ruins. He ruins runs more than helps those this season. It would really be nice to not have him helping at all with the picks. It's unlikely. Casey needs this help. I don't know if he's trying to get you to go against him or. I didn't really vibe it. He very wisely didn't give away his game there, so.

[Brady]

Right.

[Dale Hellstray]

We get into that this weekend. You get all this. This football stuff's killing me right now. I don't want to watch it all. How bad is it when you're a player and you get bounced from the playoffs? It's over. Like Mike Tomlin always says, the seasons come to a screeching halt.

[Brady]

Right.

[Dale Hellstray]

When you're in the. When you're in the tournament and then it ends.

[Brady]

Well, that. The thing about making the playoffs is obviously you get to extend your season and give you a chance. You. You, no matter how bad you are, you. You legitimately have a chance to win a champion championship. Yeah, but the thing is, it's so abrupt, the finish. And with each week that you advance, the more difficult it becomes when you do get bounced. Yeah, you know, we got bouncing NFC championship game killer. Oh, it was. It was the worst.

[Dale Hellstray]

How long till you get over it?

[Brady]

Yeah, you know, you get back home.

[Dale Hellstray]

And hang around the family. It's not like a death.

[Brady]

It doesn't always come back out here and sunshine.

[Dale Hellstray]

And so you got away from Dallas, away from. Speaking of that, has Jerry Jones reached out to you for the head coaching position?

[Brady]

Boy, it sounds like he's on a rampage with former players.

[Dale Hellstray]

He's gonna get Deion. If Deion called you with all your high school coaching success, Dale, I want you to come out here coaching me. Dale, how you doing?

[Brady]

Did you hear Michael the other day? He was on calling cowherd.

[Dale Hellstray]

Yeah, he's been screaming for Deon for a year.

[Brady]

And he said, hey, I just got off the phone with Deon and I really can't say a whole lot.

[Dale Hellstray]

He knows.

[Brady]

Oh, yeah. Oh, because he's talked to both of.

[Dale Hellstray]

Yeah.

[Brady]

And they both told Michael, shut up, don't say anything.

[Dale Hellstray]

He said it at the Mike Tyson Jake Paul fight when they, for some reason interviewed Jerry Jones and Michael Irvin together.

[Brady]

Right.

[Dale Hellstray]

Because it was in the Cowboy Stadium. And Michael's like, we both know who's going to coach this team next year and they're still playing football is in October. We both know who's going to be here next year. All right, that's enough. Michael. We all have a football coach we have in mind, but would you coach with Dion if you.

[Brady]

I guess there's. There's that monetary figure.

[Dale Hellstray]

Okay. So you have a price to be on Dion Sanders.

[Brady]

Yeah. It would take a.

[Dale Hellstray]

That shocks me.

[Brady]

What? Really?

[Dale Hellstray]

Yeah.

[Brady]

You think I just go.

[Dale Hellstray]

I think that. Yeah, there's. I like if you were capable of being on his staff, you would have to think to yourself, I can go somewhere else. Well, that's the Dillingham argument.

[Dick Toledo]

The team is bigger than the person.

[Brady]

No, no, because. Because he, he. The. The one thing I will give him is. Disliked him very much as a teammate. Yeah. Did not like his Personas, personalities, work ethic and all that. He was super talented.

[Dale Hellstray]

Sure.

[Brady]

But it seems like as a coach, he holds his guys to a little bit higher of a standard than he wanted to be held to.

[Dick Toledo]

And he's changed a little bit over.

[Brady]

The years and I think, I think, I think he has. But that's. If you hire me as offense line coach, you let me take him and.

[Dale Hellstray]

You would work for Deont.

[Brady]

Yeah, if they were giving me Holmberg money.

[Dale Hellstray]

Never. They can't afford that. So you would do that. You would work with the. See, and that's the argument that everybody has. Oh, Kenny Dillingham won't leave. It's about the team. It's about the team. Everybody's got a price.

[Brady]

They do.

[Dale Hellstray]

You're leaving to coach with Deion Sanders in Dallas.

[Brady]

There would be a price.

[Dale Hellstray]

There would be a price, but it's a price that would get rid of all of your negative feelings towards the.

[Brady]

No, I could, I could just swallow them for a couple years and then fire me in about two years and I, And I. I want a three year deal fully guaranteed.

[Dale Hellstray]

And do you think you would. But then in that point, then if you swallow me, then you get fired because you're an insubordinate, terrible man.

[Brady]

Right.

[Dale Hellstray]

Then you're never getting another job.

[Brady]

Well, I'm not looking for another job.

[Dale Hellstray]

All right, nice.

[Brady]

Close that house.

[Dale Hellstray]

Go in there and mess up Dion's life, and then come home. Yeah. I Would Jerry call. Would. Jerry wouldn't call you?

[Brady]

Jerry wouldn't say.

[Dale Hellstray]

But Dion, was there a chance that if you applied, he'd be like, I don't consider that.

[Brady]

No, He. Now, Dion and I.

[Dale Hellstray]

It's mutual. No.

[Brady]

Yeah, we. Well, he. I don't think he. You know, if he walked in here, we'd hug and.

[Dale Hellstray]

Oh, he'd remember you.

[Brady]

Oh, yeah.

[Dale Hellstray]

Is it because of. I don't know if he would. Dale. I don't know that a lot of long snappers know who I am. Yes, I do, and I am one of three in the room. But would Dion walk in here and.

[Brady]

Go say, what's up, Helly?

[Dale Hellstray]

What's up, player? You get a player?

[Brady]

Yeah. Oh, yeah.

[Dale Hellstray]

Hey, I'm Deon Said.

[Brady]

And I'd say, hey, Dion, how's that.

[Dale Hellstray]

Foot play for the. Oh, you go after his diabetes, first thing you'd say, what a.

[Brady]

No, it's not diabetes. It was. He jacked that up when he played.

[Dale Hellstray]

Diabetes. We all know what it is. So it'd be like, my man from Brady, then. Yeah, that's how Dion would come in. Damn, my man.

[Brady]

We played together.

[Dale Hellstray]

We was on the Falcons together. He doesn't know you at all. All right, let's get to your picks real quick and get this nightmare out of the way. Chiefs have the Texans coming to town.

[Brady]

Yeah.

[Dale Hellstray]

Point spread is eight and a half. Boy, this is, like, one of the biggest. Other than like, one or two. One game, actually, where the point spreads are massive. For the playoffs, it's nine points for the Chiefs.

[Brady]

Well, it's funny to me, because everybody's bitching about the College Football Playoff and the. And the routes.

[Dale Hellstray]

Yeah, a lot.

[Brady]

I think there's been two really good games, but then the first round of the playoffs, same. Washington and Tampa were the only.

[Dale Hellstray]

Nobody cares about those two.

[Brady]

Yeah, but. But. But that was the only competitive game, so.

[Dale Hellstray]

Yeah, true.

[Brady]

When's the last time Kansas City covered a game? August covered a spread. Yeah.

[Dale Hellstray]

So you take the Texans plus eight and a half.

[Brady]

I. I'm putting that down.

[Dale Hellstray]

Detroit Lions have the magical Washington Commanders coming to town. They are nine and a half point favorites.

[Brady]

Boy, are you not just shocked at Jaden Daniels?

[Dale Hellstray]

A little bit?

[Brady]

I mean, because we saw him at asu.

[Dale Hellstray]

Well, I mean, a little bit. He was the second overall.

[Brady]

Did you see him at asu?

[Dale Hellstray]

Yeah. But then he grew with real coach and he was her medwards guy. There's a reason. Yeah, I mean when he went to a real school.

[Brady]

Yeah.

[Dale Hellstray]

He flourished.

[Brady]

Yeah.

[Dale Hellstray]

So it isn't surprising because he was the number two pick and arguably like people were saying, maybe you do take Jaden over Caleb. Like that was an argument. So he has the skill. What he's doing with that team is remarkable.

[Brady]

But yes, very cool, calm, collected and having a hell of a season.

[Dale Hellstray]

Yeah.

[Brady]

Detroit, I think they're on a mission.

[Dale Hellstray]

Take the points.

[Brady]

Well, I. Nine.

[Dale Hellstray]

Nine and a half. Do you give Washington nine?

[Brady]

You allow me to just pick the teams or if you want, you call it.

[Dale Hellstray]

You want to go straight up?

[Brady]

Take Detroit straight up.

[Dale Hellstray]

Okay. And with points.

[Brady]

I say Washington keeps.

[Dale Hellstray]

All right, Rams and Eagles is a six and a half pointer in Philly. See if the ugly dumb C word guy comes back and like has a. Like he's the fireman Ed of the Eagles. Then he spells out the. Instead of jets, he's got another four letter word he can spell to the.

[Brady]

I've always wondered so how they supposedly took away his season tickets and kicked him out. How can they be sure he doesn't come back in the stadium?

[Dale Hellstray]

He's got a mustache, a hat. They're never going to know. One thing in the future that will is this eye recognition deal. Because if you've got your FaceTime thing on your phone has made it so companies can identify you and they bill you in a lot of places now with it. Intuit center in Los Angeles. When you walk in it, if you've got an iPhone you can blip it. Put your information in everywhere you go that you grab something that grabs your eyes. Your face recognition, really. It's amazing. I don't like that.

[Brady]

I know. That's scary. That's scary. So we got Philly six and a half. Boy, the Rams looked really good last week.

[Dale Hellstray]

Can the Rams drunk uncle their way right into the championship.

[Brady]

I can see Philadelphia. So what's the spread?

[Dale Hellstray]

Six and a half.

[Brady]

I take Philadelphia straight up. But I would take the Rams.

[Dale Hellstray]

All right, Rams plus six and a half. Ravens, Bills only one and a half in Buffalo. Who gets this?

[Brady]

Boy oh boy, what a battle. Game of the weekend. It's a game of the weekend, kind.

[Dale Hellstray]

Of the game of the year.

[Brady]

And guess What?

[Dick Toledo]

Get the two MVPs potentially battling each other.

[Brady]

Yeah, it's gonna be 6:30 at night in Buffalo on, on, on Sunday night. So it'll Be nice and frosty.

[Dale Hellstray]

Chilly.

[Brady]

Yeah, you can have all your fires going.

[Dale Hellstray]

I'm not gonna watch that game. I'm done. Football's over. Well done. I'll keep an eye on it, but I'm not gonna watch. I'm not gonna watch. I'll look up every once in a while. All right? And then. But I'm not watching the games.

[Brady]

Really? You don't got all the music to.

[Dale Hellstray]

No, football's over.

[Brady]

Okay.

[Dale Hellstray]

Football's.

[Brady]

I would say, obviously, the points don't matter.

[Dale Hellstray]

I would say Bills are a home underdog.

[Brady]

I know, I know.

[Dale Hellstray]

Come on, Dale, say it.

[Brady]

You know what? Pick them. Yeah, I'm gonna go ahead and pick the Buffalo Bill.

[Dale Hellstray]

No, the other way. No. He just ruined the Ravens. Son of a.

[Brady]

Big trust.

[Dale Hellstray]

You know what, what was your Wonderlic score? Did you have to take it?

[Brady]

Yes. And you know what? What was crazy about that? So I was part of the second combine ever. 1985.

[Dale Hellstray]

Okay.

[Brady]

It was out here in Tempe.

[Dale Hellstray]

Yeah.

[Brady]

Nobody knew what the damn combine was. Right. I got a nice little invite from the NFL. You're cordially invited to the NFL Combine in Tempe, Arizona. And I'm like, I get to go home for a weekend, hang out with my boys, and we all meet in the bar because I played in All Star games with some of these guys and drinking beers and going, hey, I wonder what's going on this weekend? And some dude walks in and hands out this schedule. It's like 5:30, drug test.

[Dale Hellstray]

AM.

[Brady]

AM what? 6:30. Wonderlic, 8:00, physicals, noon.

[Dale Hellstray]

I need to go through the whole.

[Brady]

Thing on field work. And we're going, we haven't done diddly, you know, now they start working on all that stuff beforehand. We're all going, when's the last time you bench pressed during the season?

[Dale Hellstray]

So Wonderlic shows up after your drug test. You're not worried about the drug test. Obviously you're not drugging. A lot of guys probably were. And then the next thing you do, the Wonderlic test, which is the identifier, it's kind of an IQ test for football players. What was your score? 50. Is the highest you can get?

[Brady]

Yeah, I think it was 49.

[Dale Hellstray]

No, it was two of the high. The two highest scores was a punter and I can't remember, he went to Ohio State and then Ryan Fitzpatrick was a 48. He had a 48. Two guys and both of them Harvard guys.

[Brady]

At 6:30 in the morning. I can.

[Dale Hellstray]

That's not an excuse. What was your score.

[Brady]

I don't remember. You do too. I honestly. Because they never shared your results.

[Dale Hellstray]

Lowest score ever was Vince Young got a six.

[Brady]

How would you like that out in the podcast?

[Dale Hellstray]

And you know what it equates to your IQ? Lamar Jackson's a 13.

[Brady]

Yeah.

[Dale Hellstray]

And that's equivalent to about an 82 IQ, which means you're five points from a state allowing you a helper. It's higher than I thought actually. Yeah. Vince young got a six. And at that IQ is 73.

[Brady]

See, we have never got any results. I didn't get until I was in Dallas. I went from a second round pick to a fourth round pick because they took an X ray in my back.

[Dale Hellstray]

Yeah.

[Brady]

And not human. And. And. And I have an issue. Spondylolisthesis. And.

[Dick Toledo]

And the fire.

[Brady]

And the Cowboys open the thing. And the Cowboys open the thing. And there's a red X through my name. They wouldn't. He said we wouldn't have drafted you if you're around in the 12th round.

[Dale Hellstray]

No kidding.

[Brady]

Said probably because your back had been.

[Dale Hellstray]

Stabbed by pitchfork so often. All right, we got to take a break. Dale, your story.

[Brady]

Never have a smile on his face.

[Dale Hellstray]

Because he's listening to you. Because he's listening to you. It's 9:53. Dale Hillistry has made his picks. We'll post him. It's a twelve hundred dollar win. But you pick the bills.

[Brady]

Damn it.

[Dale Hellstray]

Ah. Dale's ruined everything. Entertainment drill is next. It's out of control now.

[Brady]

98 to you, PT.