01-27-26 - Homeland Security And ICE Raided All 15 Zipps Locations In The Valley And We Want To Be At The Next Local Raid If We Can As We Guess What The Raid Is About

Summary

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Podcast Summary: Holmberg's Morning Sickness – Homeland Security & ICE Raid on All Zipps Locations

Episode Date: January 27, 2026
Hosts: John Holmberg, Brady Bogan, Bret Vesely, Dick Toledo
Topic: Homeland Security and ICE's coordinated raids on all Zipps Sports Grill locations in the Valley, speculation about the cause, and the hosts’ reactions to the event and public discourse surrounding it.

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This episode reacts to the breaking news that Homeland Security and ICE raided all 15 Zipps Sports Grill locations across the Phoenix Valley. The hosts discuss initial rumors and social media reactions, speculate on reasons for the raid—from immigration enforcement to money laundering—compare it with past raids on other businesses, and examine society's quickness to jump to conclusions about such law enforcement actions.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Immediate Reactions and Social Commentary

• John Holmberg missed being present at Zipps during the raid by chance, and recounts how this “action” made Phoenix seem uniquely “cool” and laid-back due to locals’ humorous responses online.

  • “The first comment I saw on this wasn’t crazy political nuts. It was a thread of people going, ‘I hope it wasn’t for the killer Zipperitas.’” — John Holmberg, [02:10]

• There’s amusement and regret among the hosts at missing the spectacle. John expresses his desire to be “pepper ball adjacent”—close to the action, but not in it.

  • “Deep down… I want to be adjacent to a pepper balling. I want to see it… I’m so tired of watching things on TV and thinking, this is...maybe it’s real. I don’t know what’s real anymore. So I have to see it with my own eyes.” — John Holmberg, [04:18]

2. Speculation About the Purpose of the Raids

• While many online presumed an immigration (ICE) raid, a listener's account and the hosts suggest it might be primarily about financial crimes.

  • “One of the cops mentioned that it’s a money thing—laundering investigation. They left with a bunch of boxes and documents.” — John Holmberg (relaying listener comment), [06:16]

• The hosts riff on possible illegal gambling, ID theft, and money laundering, poking fun at stereotypes and the tendency for conspiracy theories.

  • “That’s an awful large sports gambling operation considering we all have sports books in our hands now… There possibly some sort of illegal gambling thing going on.” — John Holmberg, [07:37]

3. Kitchen Staff Stereotypes & Racism in Reactions

• The crew acknowledges how quickly the raid was presumed to be immigration-related and how this exposes biases.

  • “If you thought that was an immigration raid, deep down, you know that a lot of the kitchen staff is probably not here legally. So, like, you’re mad, but you know why they’re there.” — John Holmberg, [06:44]

• John points out that the assumption itself can be racist:

  • “If you went there thinking, oh, ICE, you assumed that there was a bunch of illegals there, you’re the problem.” — John Holmberg, [15:17]

4. Civic Curiosity & Distrust of the Media

• John repeatedly reaffirms his wish to gain firsthand, unfiltered perspective on police raids and news events. He critiques the unreliability of news and viral videos.
  • “You ever talk to people who are actually at the birth of one of those things, and almost always they’re like, it’s not at all what happened.” — John Holmberg, [13:30]

5. Comparisons to Other Raids and Local Institutions

• The hosts compare this to previous high-profile ICE raids in Phoenix, such as those at Danny’s Car Wash, and muse about other wing places’ suddenly suspiciously “good” deals.
  • “Maybe it’s just every place that serves wings is up to no good. They figured out a loophole and Homeland Security finally spotted it.” — John Holmberg, [37:44]

6. Protesters, Signs, and the Use of “Fascism”

• The group pokes fun at the rapid deployment of protesters and professionally printed banners, suggesting some people are primed to call any police action fascism.
  • “You’re a freak if you’ve got a 30-foot banner that says ICE isn’t welcome, or Where’d you get that? Like, you’ve been sitting on that.” — John Holmberg, [35:13]
  • “Not all protesters are hippies. There isn’t fascism running wild. We all have to calm the F down.” — John Holmberg, [32:44]

7. Personal and Local Anecdotes

• The hosts reminisce about Zipps’ surprisingly attractive staff and speculate if money laundering contributed; they also muse about the business cycles of other local joints with “too good to be true” deals.
  • “When we were there, we were wondering how such a average wings and sports bar had... Megan Fox supermodel servers...Now they’re paying a whole bunch extra with that money laundering thing.” — John Holmberg, [11:34]
  • They recall a DEA friend’s stories about drug trafficking exploiting tribal land loopholes in Guadalupe. ([25:51])

8. Humor & Tone

• Throughout, the tone is irreverent and sarcastic, with playful jabs at local politics, protest culture, and each other’s assumptions.
• John repeatedly reiterates his “good soldier” attitude—not wanting to get involved, just to observe and understand.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

| Timestamp | Speaker | Quote/Comment | |-----------|---------|---------------| | 02:10 | Holmberg | “The first comment I saw on this wasn’t crazy political nuts. It was a thread of people going, ‘I hope it wasn’t for the killer Zipperitas.’” | | 04:18 | Holmberg | “I want to be adjacent to a pepper balling. I want to see it. I don’t want to get pepper balled… I want to see what leads to it.” | | 06:16 | Holmberg (from James, listener) | “One of the cops mentioned...a money thing, laundering investigation. And they left with a bunch of boxes and documents.” | | 07:37 | Holmberg | “Awful large sports gambling operation considering we all have sports books in our hands now.” | | 11:34 | Holmberg | “How are they pulling this off? Just dawned on me. Now they’re paying a whole bunch extra with that money laundering thing. Whatever they were doing was working.” | | 13:30 | Holmberg | “You ever talk to people who are actually at the birth of one of those things and almost always they’re like, it’s not at all what happened.” | | 15:17 | Holmberg | “If you went there thinking, oh, ICE, you assumed that there was a bunch of illegals there, you’re the problem.” | | 32:44 | Holmberg | “Not all protesters are hippies. There isn’t fascism running wild. We all have to calm the F down.” | | 35:13 | Holmberg | “Where do you get these things printed up so damn fast? ...You’re a freak if you’ve got a 30-foot banner that says ICE isn’t welcome.” |

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• 00:39–02:10: Opening banter, local pride, news that all Zipps locations got raided
• 02:10–04:09: Immediate reactions—wanting to witness action; social media’s first thoughts
• 04:18–06:16: Speculation on what led to the raid; discussion of scale and law enforcement presence
• 06:44–08:24: Racial/immigration assumptions, mention of money laundering and possible sports betting
• 11:34–13:30: Zipps’ staff, money laundering, reminiscences
• 13:30–16:27: Media distrust, importance of firsthand knowledge, critique of protest culture
• 17:28–19:47: ICAC confusion, protesters mistaking all agents for ICE
• 25:51–27:51: Story about drug trafficking via tribal lands and opening up about law enforcement pressure
• 32:44–35:13: Fascism and overreaction critique, protest signs
• 37:44–38:22: Joking about suspiciously cheap wing places (“Maybe it’s all wing places!”)

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Episode Takeaways

• Nuanced Reality: The hosts emphasize not rushing to judgment, mocking both the reflexive anti-ICE crowd and those convinced the raids target only immigration.
• Cynically Curious: John’s humor and morbid curiosity frame deeper points about media unreliability and the dangers of snap-storytelling in society.
• Phoenix’s Attitude: The show celebrates local culture’s laid-back attitude—and appetite for good wings and drinks—amidst chaos.
• Comedy as Coping: Irreverent humor about serious government action serves to both entertain and provoke listeners to question their assumptions.

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Summary:
This episode is an energetic, irreverent group chat about the eye-catching multi-location raid on Zipps restaurants. The hosts speculate, joke, and spar about the rumors (money laundering, immigration, gambling), lampoon both alarmist protesters and conspiracy theorists, and ultimately champion first-hand perspective over viral outrage. Holmberg’s self-described “compliant but curious” attitude shapes the show’s distinctive, sarcastic take on a serious local story.

Transcript

[A]

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[C]

Morning sickness. The old method of treatment for a person in this condition was to throw him in jail. Good morning, everybody. Hello there. Welcome to Tuesday. It is 5:45. My name's John Holmberg. How are you? There's Brady Bogan. There's Brett Fessley. There's Big Dick Toledo. Let's get going with this glorious perfect day that we're starting off once again. You look outside to everybody else and realize everywhere else sucks, but here. Florida's nice. Couple spots in California, but who wants to live there? Everybody's leaving. Visit the snow man. Oh, man, it looks terrible out there. Everywhere else, I'm fine with it. And I also like that we are. We're cool. Phoenix. We're cool. You guys are cool. It's a cooler. It's a cooler place. Like, a little more relaxed. I think we've got that. It's gonna get a little weird. Is it to what? The Parada del Solar, One of those parades coming up here for Spanish. It might get a little weird for that Saturday because might be a little lightly attended. Well, yeah, I think it's gonna be a little less than normal. But yesterday, all the Zips got raided. And ironically, I have not been to Zips in a long time, a very long time. And our boy Hanson pops up yesterday and says, meet me for lunch at Zips. Like he knew something. Oh, you went, oh, oh, I didn't. Because I've been feeling so cruddy. So I'm like, he wanted me to bring that bush baby that was crawling around on me yesterday. You still got the bush baby. Meet me at Zips. So I didn't. But I get the Text a little bit later, it says, good thing you didn't show up. Said Homeland Security came barging in, started knocking people out. It was great. And the reason Phoenix is cooler is because the first comment I saw on this wasn't crazy political nuts. It was a threat of people going, I hope it wasn't for the killer zipperitas. Like, everybody here was worried that our drinks were gonna get taken and the wings are gonna stink for a couple hours. My buddy Jose Meza, he went driving by one last night. He wanted to go get those golden honeys, which are very good if you've ever had. No, they're just like wings are. Yeah, they're wings. They're really good like a honey, but they've got a. I don't know how they dip them different, but they're just a different color.

[A]

Let's go today for lunch.

[C]

You know what? It's probably.

[A]

Well, we should be able to get right in.

[C]

Yeah. Service might be a little different today, but. Yeah, so we're cooler. We're cool. Nobody. Now they did start to protest a little and pepper ball started to fly around. That'll happen. But, you know, they had a couple of zips with some pepper ball. Well, they did all of them. They went to like, yeah, 10 or 12 different places and just. They knocked them all out. Which makes me wonder, you know, what Zips up to that. They were the first and only ones to get like, raided. At every location, you know, there's certain people, and it was Homeland Security. They walked in like cops. The one lady said there were like 30 people that just. Back door, front door just came in. What's going on at zips? That's more than immigration. And if it's not, you think it would have been like a bunch of different places, but it was just zips. So color me skeptical on whether or not this goes one way or the other. Zips was. Zips was the target.

[D]

Interesting.

[C]

So I wish I'd have gone to lunch. Like, this is the kind of stuff I miss all the time. Like weddings that have a fight. I usually leave early at lunch at the time. Oh, it look deep down. And I don't care what anybody thinks of this. I want to be adjacent to a pepper balling. I want to see it. I don't want to get pepper balled. And I'm going to be officer super cooperative. I'm not going to be one of those guys that's fighting back all the time, screaming at you and yelling. I'm just going to be an observer. But I want to get into a situation like, oh, he shot him with a. Or that. Remember that beanbag we all got excited about? That guy got hit in the nuts a few years ago in the beanbag, and it just kept rotating through everybody's feeds. It's awesome. I don't necessarily agree or disagree with all things that are going on, but that doesn't mean I don't want to be near a pepper volley. And I do. I want to see that. I want to see what leads to it. I want to be firsthand. I don't want to get somebody else's video anymore and judge it. I think that's my main point with my brain, is I'm tired of not knowing for sure what I'm looking at, if it's real or not. If I could see the pepper balling, I'd be like, oh, that guy didn't do anything. Or like, I should have gotten shot with real bullets. Like, I don't want. I'm so tired of watching things on TV and thinking, this is. Maybe it's real. I don't know what's real anymore. So I have to see with my own eyes. I want to be pepper ball adjacent. I want, like the old Quiznos commercials. They got a pepper bar. I want to be close to the pepper balling and all the stuff that goes on with it because, frankly, it's exciting. We talk about it a lot.

[D]

But Brett asked me if I knew who owns this, and I just remembered I do know the guy. I mean, I've met him several times.

[A]

See, I knew it. That's why I went right to the source.

[C]

You do? Of course, you know the owner of Zips.

[D]

They're good operators, too.

[C]

Well, sure, they got a bunch of successful stores, but they're up to something.

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

This wasn't a random thought that they're like, how about all this?

[D]

For sure.

[C]

Like, they didn't just draw out of a hat and go, all right, we're raiding Zips today. There's something they know. They have to. This guy says, James says, I live right around the corner from a zips. We go there all the time. It's so convenient. And I got to know the staff. I don't think this was ICE specific. One of the cops mentioned that it's a money thing, laundering investigation. And they left with a bunch of boxes and documents. It sounds like ICE was invited along to pick up the scraps. Yeah, this one wasn't. And that's the thing is, like, again, because people are so quick to jump to go, oh, this has to be an immigration raid. Cause think about it. If you thought that was an immigration raid, deep down, you know that a lot of the kitchen staff is probably not here legally. So, like, you're mad, but you know why they're there. In the back of your mind. It turns out, I'll say it. They're Jews running the place. And that's why there's a money laundering thing. Of course we want to be racist. Let's go all the way around the block.

[A]

You can say that, though.

[C]

I can talk about that. It's a J word. Sure. But they wouldn't have gotten caught. So must have been some Irishman got involved or something.

[D]

One of us. Like sports betting or something.

[C]

I don't know. That big a raid they get. You got to be putting some serious money in.

[A]

Especially all 15 stories.

[C]

That's an awful large sports gambling operation considering we all have sports books in our hands now. Yeah, it's.

[D]

I'm just trying to think of.

[C]

Yeah, it used to be something like bookies and like, this place is the place to go. And they could, you know. Now, I mean, you'd have to be doing something pretty crazy. Now there possibly some sort of illegal gambling thing going on. That's way bigger than. And you can imagine. But it's pretty. It's pretty big deal. Yeah. They said that it was also related to ID theft. They were stealing people's credit card information. You know, let's start betting. I said. I say the owner was cleaning money for the Jewish mob. It's a hunch maybe. Is there a Jewish mob here in Phoenix? They've been quiet. That's awesome. And they run zits.

[A]

That's the way it's supposed to be.

[C]

That's exactly how it's supposed to be.

[A]

I just can't believe they rounded up so many zips over there.

[C]

Now. Hold on. You can't. That's not what happened. It is. They round up all the zips.

[D]

All 12.

[C]

Look how horrible the zips are. Part of some sort of a racist raid. I love the zips. I hope they don't get in trouble. But. Yeah, so it's weird. And I don't know if they're gonna stay open or what happened, but I was. I was so close. And I didn't do it. I just. Because of this stupid glop. You can hear it living in my throat. I'm just like. I'm just gonna lay down and rest some. I can't. Every time I get to them all.

[D]

John.

[C]

Well, Plus, I know I want to go, but I don't want to go to him after. I want to be there for the birth. I don't want to go chase. It's like women. You don't want to chase one. You want them to like you. You want them to reach out to you every once in a while. You want, you want to. You know, it's not. Dudes who chase are always like standing alone at the end or screaming at something stupid. You want them to. You want it to happen naturally. I don't want to go to it after it's happened. That's. That's dumb. Anybody can do that. I want to be in the mix. And adjacent to Pepper bowling.

[A]

They haven't posted anything on their page since December, so, like their Facebook. See if there's. Oh, we'll be open today.

[C]

Yeah. I wonder if they are.

[A]

Yeah, I don't know.

[C]

That's a good question. Yeah, I don't know. It's. It's a very strange thing that happened, but God, I was close. I was so going. Hanson had you text me an hour earlier. There's a chance. I was feeling pretty good when I left work. I was just coughing a little bit, but I'm like, I'm just tired and I'm like, I'll just go home and clean it up. I go lay down for a little bit. Take one more of those dayquil things that's supposed to keep you awake, but doesn't. You just went away for a couple hours and, and, and I get it. And Hanson was there. Dad. Son of a. Could have been me.

[A]

So was he there for it? Was he there during the.

[C]

He was. He was. He and his buddy were there for a. He got somebody else to go with him and they were going like some 80 year old man for. At his work and the raid happened. Yeah, he's good to go.

[A]

Probably got a free meal out of it.

[C]

Yeah. I wonder if they.

[A]

Oh, for sure they're not checking out, you know.

[C]

Yeah, everybody out. I wonder how much you've finished. Did you get a togo. Homeland Security. Could you reach over and get one of those Styrofoam?

[A]

I need a refill over here real quick.

[C]

I got half a Zipperita and I just ordered one. Come on. Zipperitas will knock you down. Those are good.

[A]

Never had one.

[C]

They are, they're. They're candy. You're gonna get a headache. They're all sugar, but they are good. They come in tiny glasses and they're good. And zips. By Bethany Holman, 16th Street. They used to have, like a beautiful staff. Like, they hired, like beautiful women. So then, actually, what's weird, thinking back, me and my buddy Chuck Powell used to go there all the time and he always tried to have sex with the servers and stuff. And I always have the rule like, you know, don't bang the help. That's not so. You know, you see him outside of the building, maybe, but you can't. They're. They're designed to be nice. But he ended up banging the help, actually. Anyway, she turned out to be a little bit crazy, but shocking.

[A]

Chuck, come on.

[C]

Well, yeah, exactly. But when we were there, we were wondering how such a average wings and sports bar had. And we're not kidding. Like Megan Fox supermodel servers. Like, how are they pulling this off? Just dawned on me. Now they're paying a whole bunch extra with that money laundering thing. Whatever they were doing was working. Never once did I think there's an illegal immigration problem. I thought there was some sort of a modeling program going on in the back. Like, I had no clue. But I do like that Phoenix is cooler. We didn't go crazy. Probably will, because now, now everybody sees the after stuff and that's what makes you mad. Nobody's really mad at the beginning. If you were nobody there, how many.

[D]

Other places like zips are wondering?

[C]

This isn't a nice thing, though. But it's going to seem like it. So that's what everybody's going to be mad about. Nobody's going to actually read, oh, it could be a money laundering deal or, you know, maybe a sports gambling thing or maybe they're just. Nobody's going to read that in this culture. Everybody's going to think, oh, they attacked the kitchen staff and that they're. They're raiding people. And I don't. We don't know, but people showed up last night after the fact and started screaming about it and go home. And I was like, maybe it was, maybe it wasn't. ICE just kind of tagged along. Evidently. I don't know. I wasn't there.

[A]

They didn't walk out with any Chris Balance.

[C]

Whale is. No, I mean, if they did boxes of stuff, dude deserved it. Like if. If they went in for boxes of Jew papers and they left with a couple Mexicans, then of course, then, yeah, I sound terrible. But I'm just saying what everybody thinks and won't say. It's. It's. If you're, if you're mad about immigration and you think it was an immigration raid, you know, deep down there's probably a bunch of illegals working in there and that's what makes you want to defend it. But that wasn't even about that as far as what I've seen. But again, I don't know because I wasn't there. But I almost was. I could have had first hand knowledge. There's something, something. Check out homework's morning sickness [e-mail] Holmberg's Morning Sickness. You ever talk to people who are actually at the birth of one of those things and almost always they're like, it's not at all what happened. And everything we see is crazy. We got videos running around of ice handcuffing babies and stuff. And it's on major news networks and it's all over Instagram and all your feeds and all that stuff. And it turns out it was a cop playing cops and robbers, was his three year old son. And they said, ice, what are they handcuffing kids for? It just turns into crazy. Which is why we can't even come close to believing anything unless we're there. So all this said as a decent citizen of the United States of America, a cooperative one, one of those privileged whites they talk about a lot. I would like someone from Homeland Security or maybe even ICE to email me [e-mail] and tell me where you're gonna go today. I want to be there. I want to watch this stuff. I want first hand accounting. Nobody's gonna be more open and honest about it than me. I'm not going to try to. I have no agenda. Frankly, I live a life where I just don't care that much. So if I'm at the zips, I'd be like, how the hell about this? And you're not going to get pushback, you're just going to get an observer. That's what I've done my whole life is observe things and then I make up my mind about like, well, that was weird or whatever and then I go home. Yeah, that's what Adam's saying. What I'm saying, isn't it racist that protesters showed up assuming it was an ICE raid? What are they trying to say about zips? Yeah, that's it. If you went there thinking, oh, I said you assumed that there was a bunch of illegals there, you're the problem.

[D]

They're. They're trying to protect them.

[C]

But you would think, yeah, but this, the, the mere assumption that they thought that's a. Oh, that had to be what they're doing because we all know that staff's a bunch of Mexicans. That's. You're the racist.

[A]

It's a slippery slope.

[C]

See? You can't. And you're a problem, General.

[D]

I did not. It is a slippery slope.

[C]

All right, all right. Idio.

[A]

I just want to wait and use that one.

[C]

And let me be clear. I don't want to get hit with a pepper ball. So I do want to be adjacent. And also, if I got hit with a. If I'm adjacent to pepper balls flying and one hits me, I'd be like, this is my fault. I'm in pepper ball country. You stand on the freeway, you might get hit by a car. You stand in pepper ball lanes, you might get popped with the pepper bowl. But I definitely want to be there. Definitely want to be part of this. So a Homeland Security officer, if you would be so kind as to just tip me, I'll be quiet about it. I'm a good soldier.

[D]

Well, if you want to help John on the business side. I don't go to Zips for lunch today.

[C]

Why? What if they were money laundering? What, am I supporting them? I'm not going to do that again. I don't care if you're up to no good in your business and you get busted. I'm not going to go there and support you because I'm crazy. And I think that it was an ICE raid. It wasn't. I mean, ICE was like, hey, guys, can we go? Treat me like ice. Homeland Security. Where are you going today? I want to buy you guys lunch. And also, where are you going today? I want to buy you lunch. I mean, I got suggestions, but my first thought also was ice. But then when they left with boxes of papers, you're like, oh, this is something they've been thinking about. Yeah, they're thinking. Yeah, thinking it's something completely different. And then a bunch of liberal hippies showed up and started screaming, go home. And like, well, they're not even here for that. I watched one yesterday where there was a IC AC Department. And these people get out of a truck, and they're icac. And this hippie couple screaming at him, get out of here. Nobody wants you here.

[B]

Ice.

[C]

You think we're not ice? Ah, you're hanging around a supermarket. What the hell's wrong with go home? They're screaming, say, hey, we're not ice. We're ic ac. Yeah, but you're driving that black truck. And you're not. And you're not. How dare. You're on the Internet. And they go after the guy and he's like, Internet crimes against children. We're here nabbing a pedophile. That's what. Likely story. And the guy wouldn't let him have it. No, it's ice, and we don't want. You really? Go home. And he's like, yeah, okay. You should be ashamed you're on the Internet. Then he's filming the guy. He's like, you're on the Internet. You should be ashamed. Most. Most ICE guys cover their face. You're right here on the Internet. How do you feel about that? And he goes, I feel great. And with icac, it's not ice. Yeah. The unlikely story. And this hippie is lost. Lost in his own narrative in his head that everybody. He wants to be ice. Must be ice. The guy's stopping Internet crimes against children. But it's almost ice. There's like, I see your ass close enough.

[A]

Sheba Hut. Give him the afternoon off or what?

[C]

Oh, Sheba Hut wouldn't hire this loser.

[D]

It wasn't a staged video either.

[C]

No, because the cop just kept. He put his arms up and he just got in his car. Like, this guy's not like. It was. It wasn't hilarious enough to be staged or confrontational. The guy's just like, are you kidding me? He's like, no, no, we're just. We're icac. Yeah, that's what they. Sure you are. He's like, just stop, and I gotta get in my car. He goes. And then he. And then. Then he spun the whole thing at the end. And he goes, yeah, like some pedophiles hanging out here at the Bromart all day. And that's the name of the, like, store.

[A]

The Bromart?

[C]

Yeah, it's B R O U G or something. It's like one of those Midwestern. I don't know what it was. Some dump. And he's like, yeah, the pedophiles hang out all sorts of places. You don't expect. That's the point. That's what pedophiles do. Yeah. You don't know. I see almost ac. Whatever that is, Isaac. But I want. That's why I want to be there for these things. I don't. I don't watch the news anymore. I don't want to find out my information secondhand from people like, oh, was there. Like, I want to be there. I want to be the one that stands and watches and says, holy cow. And then I. You know, being one of those privileged whites, I usually can walk up to a cop and go, what the hell happened in here. And then they'll tell me. I've had that happen several times.

[D]

But don't tell anyone.

[C]

I've had. I've had a cop recognize me when he's nabbing somebody downtown. He's like, hey, Holmberg, what's going on? I'm like, what the hell happened here? And he's just like, ah, this guy did this and he's on drugs and he died. I'm like, okay, I didn't know if you're supposed to tell me or not, but he told me. And then I could tell everybody I was there. I was. That guy did that to that guy. This doesn't have anything to do with, like, race. Maybe it does, but Zips is up to no good. And I hope it doesn't affect the constant flow of zipperitas and chicken wings, because the Zips by my house is full of every day. Like, it doesn't seem like that place ever has a hiccup. Like, even when the sports world is kind of closed up, even this Sunday, there'll be no football. That zips will have people all over it. It's cause their wings are good. My friend Joe took me there one time and it was like, dollar pizza night. You get like a slice of pizza for a buck. And, you know, it made Peter Piper look like Bianco. It was like. And I just thought, I don't think you should do this dollar pizza night anymore. Because I'd rather eat the box this. My buddy Joe was like, it was great. I'm like, ah, that's not good. But for a dollar, people will, you know, but they don't evidently need to make money better. Yeah, but when. Yeah, when Chuck and I used to go there, he's starting to add up now. That staff was getting money extra from something. I bet you it's years in the making. I want to know everything. Still haven't gotten an email from any of those guys? Just one. David says, I'm a brown guy and I think this is good stuff. I would watch this every day. Yes. As long as it's on the TV or not getting too violent, I'm all in. Yeah, I have a guy says I'm at Homeland Security and I trust you a ton, but I can't tell you when we do stuff. If anything happens, I'm liable. I just can't do it. I'm not asking you to tell me what you're gonna do. I'm saying wink. Where are you going for lunch today? You bring in the boys. That's all you can Answer that innocuous question.

[D]

Where should I go to lunch today?

[C]

What would be a good place recommended by my friend at Homeland Security for lunch today? What you thinking? There's a place called Goldie's that they. That discuss the owner. That's the owner.

[D]

Yeah. Start gold around for a long time.

[C]

Goldie's. Will that get rated as well? It's same deli.

[D]

It's a sports bar in Scottsdale.

[C]

Brady knows these guys.

[A]

It was a test.

[C]

You know them all any. It's just. Yeah, I don't want to show up to this stuff after. And by the way, everybody's saying that they think Zips are closed. They told all the customers to leave, they grabbed documents, they shut the doors and they locked it up. The place would just turn over employees like crazy. That same James guy lives by one, he said but there were never Mexicans there. And that's what I remember. It was just a bunch of. A bunch of good looking in the back there. Well, no, I remember I never looked into the back, but I also. I assumed it was mostly Mexican in the back. That's just my assumption at most restaurants I'm going to but all the staff was when I went there. This is probably 10 years ago. They were all beautiful people. And for a little sports bar on 16th and Bethany it was like that's strange. They can't be pulling in beautiful people money. Like girls that look like this didn't need to work unless something else was going on.

[A]

It was a Santan brewery before that or something.

[C]

No, that was. That was a standalone by itself next to it. Oh, the Zips is in the, in the center. Oh, 16th Bethany. Now that's a blue fish water place or.

[A]

Oh, got your clear water.

[C]

I don't know what I call it. Yeah, it's so. I don't know. And then also if there's some ice guys out there, where's what's for lunch? Like what are you. What's for what's for lunch? Joseph says you're shown your true colors. Says I want to buy you lunch and I'm a good soldier, John. I want to buy a bunch of unlawful fascists lunch. By the way, not all protesters are happy. Sure, Joseph, I get it. I'm. I'm not bashing you. I'll buy you lunch too if you tell me where you guys are going to go nuts. I'll follow you around for a minute. But yeah, I don't buy we're into the fascist thing. I'm not. Don't, Don't Bother me with that word. Because most of you can't define it. And it isn't. It's not. If you're allowed to run around and scream at the police. There's no fascist state. That's. It's just not a thing. You can be upset at the way things are going. But let's not say Nazi and fascism anymore, because it's just not. You're just throwing out. You're throwing out the buzzwords from the choreographed last one. You know, every. You seem to get ground with that. I don't think all the cops are fair. I know a bunch of the guys. I know two or three dudes who work for ice and they're scared to death that people are going to kill them just for doing their jobs. And I don't get it. And if you do any history on fascism, this is the exact same operation that was going on with your guy Barack. Exactly. Same dudes in charge. Tom Holman was Barack's man. They were deporting people like crazy back then. I'm for it. I don't think it's fascism. I think it broke the rules. You don't have to be rough on them. But, yeah, I don't get why it all swung. That's why. That's why I want to be at the zips when it goes down. But the words Nazi. In fact, you lose me when you start screaming that. Because that's extremes. That's when a woman fights and they say you always. Here we go. I'm going to hear about stuff that doesn't matter. But you throw the word Nazi at me and I immediately dismiss it. You throw the word fascist at me, immediately dismiss it. Because it ain't. You can't. You can't email radio shows about fascism being running rampant. They'd find you and they'd get you. So it's not a thing. This one says, go back to Guadalupe and just hang out. How is that place not look like it's on fire from tear gas? Well, they got a loophole.

[D]

Nobody messes with Guadalupe.

[C]

Well, it's its own country.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Guadalupe is like a little sovereign Indian res, kind of a hybrid. Here's an interesting fact about Guadalupe that I learned while I was there from the Yaqui tribe. There's another area of their tribal land that goes from the United States into Mexico and can't be policed. It crosses the border, and they can cross freely. Once they get to that, there's something, something. Check out Homework's morning sickness podcast at 98kupd.comberg's morning sickness. And my cop friend that was a DEA guy, said it was the number one distribution place to move drugs across the border because they can't police it, really. And then the. The deal was when they left the reservation to come down to Guadalupe, that's when they had to get them. And they had to be pretty damn sure that they were getting the right people. So it was moving. It was moving. It was nice. A nice little wagon train of stuff going on with that one. I was like, that's one of the dudes that worked for DEA that I knew. Had a partner come over from Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, and he was working the worst spots in Pittsburgh. And he was like, came over here thinking it's a resort town. He quit. Cause it was so helpless of the trafficking that was going on. He's like, I don't even know how you guys are.

[D]

I forget what show. It was like a 2020 or there. Just random people coming over the border.

[C]

Everyone's muling pills, everybody. And that's what the dude said. He goes, we are, like, the scrutiny that we're under to try to nab anybody bringing drugs across. If we miss one, we're racist, we're fired. And he's like, we are. It's. We're done. So they had to be so sure. He just, like, it was too much pressure and he left. He went back like, I can't do it. This place is nuts. So we've kept it quiet. But I want to be there. And I don't. I don't want to support fascism. I don't. And I don't want to support illegal immigration.

[D]

I don't.

[C]

Here's another thing I think is kind of neat. The school. One of the schools downtown that has, you know, a high population of people who are a little bit worried. They've offered zoom classes because some of the parents are, like, not real comfortable sitting in line for my kids at pickup. Like, because they're drive line. You're a sitting duck. And some of them are like, oh. So all I'd do if I was ICE instead of being crazy is go to that school and find out which kids have missed the last four or five days, but they're on the zoom. And then go dab them, not the kids. But, you know, little pricks walk. You don't need to go wait in line. I'm not saying that because that's what I want, but if I worked for ice, that's what I do, get my quotas up. I just. I Honestly, I decide I want to be part of this. Not necessarily ice. They want to be close to it. Yeah, I will see. We'll see. What's going on? It says word on the street is Zips is going to open today. But their hours. All right. Burner. That's the nice. Their hours will be slanted. That doesn't even make sense.

[D]

No, yeah, it does a little bit.

[C]

And I mean, for Brett. Yeah. I don't know. But anyway. Well, we'll see. But their wings are still good. And the zipperitas will flow again. He's gonna find out. Yeah. This one's more of that Danny's car wash thing. Remember that was like, that dude got in trouble for having a couple, and then they raided him and found out, like, everybody there was doing stuff, and that guy had to go to jail because they warned him a couple times, like, don't. And then. Yeah.

[D]

And I think they found some stuff, too.

[C]

Oh, sure. But they were like, we see you're up to this. Don't do it anymore. You've got a problem hiring illegals. And we caught you. And they gave him that chance. And then.

[D]

Because if you're paying, you know, cash under the table.

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

And all of a sudden, it's, you know, if that were the case and it's 15 places, that starts to add up.

[C]

Yeah. All right. Here's what he says. Matt says, hey, by the way, I'm the guy with the Eminem super bowl nipple problem for what would Brady do?

[A]

I remember that one.

[C]

I don't either. Maybe I haven't read it yet. Might be in the pile. Says I was managing its zips. I wonder why you got fired. Next sentence might have something to do with it. Those Jews are not giving extra dimes to any of the staff. I can assure you of that. Maybe you're not one of the hot ones. Like, maybe you're just a guy that they would let go. I don't know.

[D]

When I called in an hour before shift. Not gonna make it.

[C]

Yeah. And the guy that's mad at me, that says I'm a good soldier and that upset him. I am. I'm a compliant person again. When you don't care, you live a more carefree life. That's what. Don't care and carefree. Hand in hand. Now I pay attention. I'm knowledgeable. I'm not ignorant to everything, But I really don't care. That's. You just have to deal with people like me. I'm just like, okay, is this gonna get me in any way? Fascism, like, all right, I'm not interested in this at all anymore. I'm gonna walk away. It's kind of neat to watch the cops go to work though. All those people are innocent. I don't know. They have due process. They'll figure it out. Nobody gets it anymore, okay, you're nuts. I'm walking away. I don't care that much, but I am. I'm a good soldier. If ICE guys want to tell me where they're gonna have lunch linking it, I'm. We're gonna have lunch there today. Force. I just went to the. I think that's Zips. I went to down at Park Central Mall with Dale Hellstrain a couple weeks ago. Very nice. Staff was better looking than it should be. And it was like a Tuesday and it was pretty full. I didn't even know there was still a Park Central Mall. I gotta be honest with you. And Dale said, boy, one on for Central. I'm like, where's that? It's huge. There's an EOS Fitness and then the Park Central Mall. Zips and I don't know what else is in there. The parking stunk, but outside of that.

[D]

Used to be a Starbucks in there.

[C]

I think there is. I don't know, something like that. I didn't even know that. I thought they tore that down. It was. I've driven by that a million times. I look, I'm like, it doesn't look.

[A]

Like it did though. I mean, it's kind of changed a lot.

[C]

But I didn't know what it was. What it. I thought it was businesses. There's like, you know, offices. No, that's certain. They got wings. Actually had a really good Last time I was Quesadillas.

[D]

Tom Brannaman, Scottsdale 1. He loved that one up in Via Day, Ventura.

[C]

And why meet me at Zips, I bet you. Because it was zipperitas and the staff was better looking cash and it was free of.

[A]

Never mind.

[C]

Yeah, I don't want to go to the one downtown Brady. Now you and I both know what kind of weirdos frequent that place. I mean, the Ice Dragons down there, they call them the Nice because they're filled with ice cream and that's not ice. Not vanilla running out of their mouth. I'm not going down to City, Brady. Meet me in Scottsdale. Oops. And yeah, so yeah, not all protesters are hippies. There isn't fascism running wild. We all have to calm the F down. You don't even know like, that guy's yelling at me, saying, I'm a good soldier for Homelands maybe. It was a terrible crime being committed in there. And everybody just assumes because the news has you blind. Yeah. That you don't know. That might have been a terrible, terrible crime at the place. But we don't know. I like it though.

[D]

What if ended up being child trafficking?

[C]

Yes. What if at Homeland Security needed the documents that they kept? I don't know what they do with child trafficking. They have paperwork probably. Again, I'm not ignorant to it. I just don't care that much.

[D]

They had cameras in the bathrooms.

[C]

Yeah, what if. Yeah, what if it's that? But everybody just assumes it's Minnesota Junior and we're gonna lose our minds when the police show up. Now they do show up in powerful numbers. That's a lot of people. 30 dudes rolling into a zips. I think the three of us could probably get what they got done.

[D]

And they did it to all locations.

[C]

They did it to almost all of them. And then one of the zips got a heads up from another zips. God, this sounds terrible.

[A]

I'm loving it.

[C]

And they're like, hey, they're on their way to all of us. Which means that they all were into the same thing, that they knew if they're getting us, they're gonna get all of us. There's some more to this than just like the.

[D]

They're like, should we one at a time or let's just nip it in the bud right now.

[C]

Get them all in, boys, while you're working. Anyway, what's for lunch? That's my code to all of the massive law enforcement raids. I want to be close to one. No, I don't consider it fascism. Like it's fun. Shishm. I call it the zips eating wings and stuff. And you get a. You get wing juice all over your lips and fingers and you're screaming about fascism. Just check yourself for a second. You're going crazy. Fascism, man, my fingers are covered in.

[D]

Did they have ready made signs going too on the protest?

[C]

Yeah, and that's the thing that gets me. Where do you get these things printed up so damn fast? You have to be sitting at home waiting for this. You're. You're a freak if you've got a 30 foot banner. Test scanners on 30 foot banners that say ice isn't welcome or Where'd you get that? Like you've been sitting on that. Kinko's is fast, but yeah, they are not that fast. I'm telling you, man, fascism. I need my other plate for All. It's all you can eat. Hurry up. She's a fascist too. I mean, I told her I need more wet naps too. She's a fascist with the wet naps. This one says if zips is afraid to open after what happened, it'll prove one thing. They're all yellow. All right, everybody, that's enough. Those people are. There's a guy driving what we do. He's right. It's 6:20. You can be mad at me all you want. It's did nothing phases me. I'm fine with it. So I just find it. I think everybody's gotten hysterical. Not in a funny way either. It's like you're getting too crazy. But you can tell me right now, as a compliant citizen, that I wouldn't want to know what lunch you need to be at today. This one says you're a compliant U.S. citizen, John. I'm not going to hear about you attacking things that say ice on them. For example, the machines in front of the circle case. Those things have to go. This guy says, you know, Long Long's a scrambling today. Yeah, that's that. Business has boomed. You know what another one is? And I don't want to disparage them. Those two hippies, those dudes, they're called two hippies. And they got stores all over the place. And I never see anybody in there. Like they just popped up like two hippies making burgers. They're everywhere. They've been around for what? Burgers. It's like a little shack and it's like. It looks like a beach cabana. And they serve hamburgers and they're good.

[D]

How about that?

[C]

But there's like. Well, there's like 16 of them. And they came. America's taco shop. Showed up and left real fast. There were 300 of those in like a weekend. And then they were gone. So those are the ones I look at. Like Longwangs has been around for a long time and there's a bunch of them. And for a while their longwangs was like six dozen wings for 12 bucks. How are you people making it? How many chickens have to die for a saw buck plus two? You seem to be okay with that. And native New Yorker went for a while. They're selling dime wings. Maybe it's all wing places. I'm just gonna. I'm gonna do it. The people who scream fashion. But maybe it's just every place that serves wings is up to no good. They figured out a loophole and Homeland Security finally spotted it. I'm telling you right now, when spring comes along, I'm gonna get in the. I'm gonna get in the sun and brown up and wear some green pants and just walk around and hope that someday I get nab so I can meet Kristi Noam in that hat. I like when she wears that hat. I wouldn't mind Kristi Noem putting me on a plane.

[D]

I don't think I've seen her in the hat.

[C]

You haven't? It's all she does is wear the hat. She wears the hat everywhere every time she's around. She's in the commercials, she's in the hat. She's always in the hat. The hat's great.

[A]

I just saw a picture.

[C]

Baseball hat. Oh, I would. They would be like, are you a citizen? It's like if she was in the car, I'd pretend to be the most illegal. Oh, Christy Noem in the hat. She's always in that hat. All right, Tim Flannery will close with your email. Sounds like Brett's gonna have a zippity doo dot time today. That's for the raid. Unzips. That's double bad. Knock it off. Let's get a wake up song, shall we? 585-9800. A good one. We'll scream it together. It's 98 KBD. Wake up. It's not. It's pretty cool, actually. No membership fee. I have heard enough of this.