Podcast Summary: Holmberg's Morning Sickness – Homeland Security & ICE Raid on All Zipps Locations

Episode Date: January 27, 2026
Hosts: John Holmberg, Brady Bogan, Bret Vesely, Dick Toledo
Topic: Homeland Security and ICE's coordinated raids on all Zipps Sports Grill locations in the Valley, speculation about the cause, and the hosts’ reactions to the event and public discourse surrounding it.

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This episode reacts to the breaking news that Homeland Security and ICE raided all 15 Zipps Sports Grill locations across the Phoenix Valley. The hosts discuss initial rumors and social media reactions, speculate on reasons for the raid—from immigration enforcement to money laundering—compare it with past raids on other businesses, and examine society's quickness to jump to conclusions about such law enforcement actions.

Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Immediate Reactions and Social Commentary

• John Holmberg missed being present at Zipps during the raid by chance, and recounts how this “action” made Phoenix seem uniquely “cool” and laid-back due to locals’ humorous responses online.

  • “The first comment I saw on this wasn’t crazy political nuts. It was a thread of people going, ‘I hope it wasn’t for the killer Zipperitas.’” — John Holmberg, [02:10]

• There’s amusement and regret among the hosts at missing the spectacle. John expresses his desire to be “pepper ball adjacent”—close to the action, but not in it.

  • “Deep down… I want to be adjacent to a pepper balling. I want to see it… I’m so tired of watching things on TV and thinking, this is...maybe it’s real. I don’t know what’s real anymore. So I have to see it with my own eyes.” — John Holmberg, [04:18]

2. Speculation About the Purpose of the Raids

• While many online presumed an immigration (ICE) raid, a listener's account and the hosts suggest it might be primarily about financial crimes.

  • “One of the cops mentioned that it’s a money thing—laundering investigation. They left with a bunch of boxes and documents.” — John Holmberg (relaying listener comment), [06:16]

• The hosts riff on possible illegal gambling, ID theft, and money laundering, poking fun at stereotypes and the tendency for conspiracy theories.

  • “That’s an awful large sports gambling operation considering we all have sports books in our hands now… There possibly some sort of illegal gambling thing going on.” — John Holmberg, [07:37]

3. Kitchen Staff Stereotypes & Racism in Reactions

• The crew acknowledges how quickly the raid was presumed to be immigration-related and how this exposes biases.

  • “If you thought that was an immigration raid, deep down, you know that a lot of the kitchen staff is probably not here legally. So, like, you’re mad, but you know why they’re there.” — John Holmberg, [06:44]

• John points out that the assumption itself can be racist:

  • “If you went there thinking, oh, ICE, you assumed that there was a bunch of illegals there, you’re the problem.” — John Holmberg, [15:17]

4. Civic Curiosity & Distrust of the Media

• John repeatedly reaffirms his wish to gain firsthand, unfiltered perspective on police raids and news events. He critiques the unreliability of news and viral videos.
  • “You ever talk to people who are actually at the birth of one of those things, and almost always they’re like, it’s not at all what happened.” — John Holmberg, [13:30]

5. Comparisons to Other Raids and Local Institutions

• The hosts compare this to previous high-profile ICE raids in Phoenix, such as those at Danny’s Car Wash, and muse about other wing places’ suddenly suspiciously “good” deals.
  • “Maybe it’s just every place that serves wings is up to no good. They figured out a loophole and Homeland Security finally spotted it.” — John Holmberg, [37:44]

6. Protesters, Signs, and the Use of “Fascism”

• The group pokes fun at the rapid deployment of protesters and professionally printed banners, suggesting some people are primed to call any police action fascism.
  • “You’re a freak if you’ve got a 30-foot banner that says ICE isn’t welcome, or Where’d you get that? Like, you’ve been sitting on that.” — John Holmberg, [35:13]
  • “Not all protesters are hippies. There isn’t fascism running wild. We all have to calm the F down.” — John Holmberg, [32:44]

7. Personal and Local Anecdotes

• The hosts reminisce about Zipps’ surprisingly attractive staff and speculate if money laundering contributed; they also muse about the business cycles of other local joints with “too good to be true” deals.
  • “When we were there, we were wondering how such a average wings and sports bar had... Megan Fox supermodel servers...Now they’re paying a whole bunch extra with that money laundering thing.” — John Holmberg, [11:34]
  • They recall a DEA friend’s stories about drug trafficking exploiting tribal land loopholes in Guadalupe. ([25:51])

8. Humor & Tone

• Throughout, the tone is irreverent and sarcastic, with playful jabs at local politics, protest culture, and each other’s assumptions.
• John repeatedly reiterates his “good soldier” attitude—not wanting to get involved, just to observe and understand.

Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

| Timestamp | Speaker | Quote/Comment | |-----------|---------|---------------| | 02:10 | Holmberg | “The first comment I saw on this wasn’t crazy political nuts. It was a thread of people going, ‘I hope it wasn’t for the killer Zipperitas.’” | | 04:18 | Holmberg | “I want to be adjacent to a pepper balling. I want to see it. I don’t want to get pepper balled… I want to see what leads to it.” | | 06:16 | Holmberg (from James, listener) | “One of the cops mentioned...a money thing, laundering investigation. And they left with a bunch of boxes and documents.” | | 07:37 | Holmberg | “Awful large sports gambling operation considering we all have sports books in our hands now.” | | 11:34 | Holmberg | “How are they pulling this off? Just dawned on me. Now they’re paying a whole bunch extra with that money laundering thing. Whatever they were doing was working.” | | 13:30 | Holmberg | “You ever talk to people who are actually at the birth of one of those things and almost always they’re like, it’s not at all what happened.” | | 15:17 | Holmberg | “If you went there thinking, oh, ICE, you assumed that there was a bunch of illegals there, you’re the problem.” | | 32:44 | Holmberg | “Not all protesters are hippies. There isn’t fascism running wild. We all have to calm the F down.” | | 35:13 | Holmberg | “Where do you get these things printed up so damn fast? ...You’re a freak if you’ve got a 30-foot banner that says ICE isn’t welcome.” |

Timestamps for Key Segments

• 00:39–02:10: Opening banter, local pride, news that all Zipps locations got raided
• 02:10–04:09: Immediate reactions—wanting to witness action; social media’s first thoughts
• 04:18–06:16: Speculation on what led to the raid; discussion of scale and law enforcement presence
• 06:44–08:24: Racial/immigration assumptions, mention of money laundering and possible sports betting
• 11:34–13:30: Zipps’ staff, money laundering, reminiscences
• 13:30–16:27: Media distrust, importance of firsthand knowledge, critique of protest culture
• 17:28–19:47: ICAC confusion, protesters mistaking all agents for ICE
• 25:51–27:51: Story about drug trafficking via tribal lands and opening up about law enforcement pressure
• 32:44–35:13: Fascism and overreaction critique, protest signs
• 37:44–38:22: Joking about suspiciously cheap wing places (“Maybe it’s all wing places!”)

Episode Takeaways

• Nuanced Reality: The hosts emphasize not rushing to judgment, mocking both the reflexive anti-ICE crowd and those convinced the raids target only immigration.
• Cynically Curious: John’s humor and morbid curiosity frame deeper points about media unreliability and the dangers of snap-storytelling in society.
• Phoenix’s Attitude: The show celebrates local culture’s laid-back attitude—and appetite for good wings and drinks—amidst chaos.
• Comedy as Coping: Irreverent humor about serious government action serves to both entertain and provoke listeners to question their assumptions.

Summary:
This episode is an energetic, irreverent group chat about the eye-catching multi-location raid on Zipps restaurants. The hosts speculate, joke, and spar about the rumors (money laundering, immigration, gambling), lampoon both alarmist protesters and conspiracy theorists, and ultimately champion first-hand perspective over viral outrage. Holmberg’s self-described “compliant but curious” attitude shapes the show’s distinctive, sarcastic take on a serious local story.