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John Holmberg
Still streaming Homberg's Morning Sickness online at 98kupd.com aupd Arizona's real rock. Oh, Larry King gets me every time. And then I have purchased Brady's present. He has arrived and it's the young boy, Zachary. You have a young boy staring at you the entire morning, Brady Zachary. He's a good looking twink. Zach is here. It's Kevin Ray, son's announcer. It's his son and he is here in Kevin's stead because Kevin is it was his birthday yesterday as well. And so he was going to come in and you saw it last night, Zach, when I said, kevin, you want to come in and play Brady Gro later? You win cash and prizes for your birthday and you saw him start to hem and haw and like, if you don't want to go, just say, I don't want to go. I don't want to go. And I'm like, all right, well then we just won't go. And then Zach's like, I'll do it. Like he Heard Cash and prizes so well. That's a nice gift for Brady.
Brady
Said he studied well.
John Holmberg
Good. I don't know what the topics are yet, but I hope you're ready. Zach's ready. Are you a qualified broadcaster, Zach? Do you think you're good at this? All right, hop on over and sit in that chair, and we'll let you play along for a little bit. Don't get too mouthy, though.
Brady
He's been pacing like a tiger.
John Holmberg
This is that Nepo baby thing right here. This is the. Just go on this one right here.
Brady
Use your announcer voice, too.
John Holmberg
Don't do that. Not like Brady does. It's too obvious, everybody. Zachary. This would be like having Al McCoy's son. Did he have a son? God, that would have been Don Swayze. That Don. Yeah. It's kind of the Timu. Kevin Ray is here. We like it. What? He's here. Are you ready?
Brady
You get up in that mic.
John Holmberg
Third breast. Are you in or out? Yeah, he just doesn't have with his dad's guy. He's just. He's just not. He's not just not the same. I miss Kevin already. Yeah, you got to get right on that saying. Like, it's Tanner. That's his buddy. I spent a lot of time with Zach and the boys over there at the Sunset.
Brady
Well, he got on that.
John Holmberg
Now he's on it. Yeah, the people are mad at Brett. I'm winning the third boob debate, by the way, on the online. They're mad at Brett for not for being bougie about the third breast. Said if Margot Robbie grew one, you'd play with it.
Brett Vesely
I take her to the doctor and get that thing.
John Holmberg
You would play with it first. Anyway, I'm tired of talking to you about this Bo boob.
Brett Vesely
I'm out.
John Holmberg
It's not.
Brett Vesely
It is.
Brady
It's underarm.
John Holmberg
That's disgusting. Here's a fun one.
Brady
Sweaty.
John Holmberg
Oh, by the way, we've got, you know, a proxy of a sports broadcaster. The Cardinals made their hire this weekend. They got their guides again. Brother. Family thing of the coach of the packers, LaFleur. This one's Mark. Mike. That's right. It's another M. Sorry, Matt. Mike. Mike. Mike LaFleur. And so the Cardinals actually, you know, through all this process of nobody wanting the job, landed a pretty good get. That's not a bad choice. It's better than the Vance Joseph thing that was floating around. Cardinal fans can get a little excited about, like, the Rams offensive coordinator, but here's the rub on him. He's Never called to play for the Rams. It's always been Sean McVeigh. So he's not the offensive coordinator, play caller. He's just the guy running the practice. Sean McVeigh told him prior to that job, he was the OC with the new York jets on the Aaron Rodgers year. That was a terrible offense, and that was eerie.
Brady
Got hurt to work with Aaron that much?
John Holmberg
No, but that's when you need your OC to be something, because guess what? He's walking into a situation that isn't much better than what he had without Aaron in New York. It was Zach Wilson as quarterback. Yeah. It was horrible. So, you know. And then the next year, he did have Aaron and the offense was okay, but they weren't very good. And then he. Off he went. So his resume looks pretty because he's a Rams guy, but we'll have to see. He seems to be the guy and he's got the name and the pedigree, and he comes from the Shanahan thing. So Cardinal fans can be a little excited. That's a little excitement as opposed to.
Brady
I think, the most.
John Holmberg
You're still a Cardinals fan at the.
Brady
End of the day, though, and you got a coach.
John Holmberg
Yeah. Well, yeah, you got, you know, you got something. We'll see. I don't know if they're going to be any good with it or not, and I guess we'll have to find out that they're serious as a team because now it's all about who they put on the field. But, yeah, Cardinal fans, congratulations.
Brady
Coming down to the line, they needed to pull the trigger.
John Holmberg
Not a terrible weekend for them. Well, yeah, they were the last ones. All the jobs are full now. Say. What are you saying, Zach? No, I got.
Zachary Ray
You got to figure out the quarterback.
John Holmberg
Oh, yeah. That's the biggest problem. That's Zach Ray. That's Kevin Ray, son. He's broadcasting.
Brady
Who would you go after?
Zachary Ray
I think they're going to run it back with Kyler.
John Holmberg
I do, too. It's too much money not to. Are you. Have you ever sat in on a son's game, like Father Sunday, where you sat on your dad's lap while he called the game? Have you? Yes. And they let you talk for a little bit. Did you call a play and that.
Zachary Ray
Like maybe 30 seconds, one of those.
John Holmberg
Awful moments where they make the kids time out?
Brett Vesely
Yeah.
John Holmberg
Yeah. Oh, you're. Oh. On the air. Yeah. Then you didn't, like, do a.
Zachary Ray
It was like 30 seconds. Yeah.
John Holmberg
Was it Steve Nash days? Do you remember the call?
Zachary Ray
The Nashty days.
John Holmberg
No kidding. And you were.
Zachary Ray
Didn't sound like that.
John Holmberg
Boom goes the dynamite.
Zachary Ray
Didn't sound like that. No. But I don't know.
Brady
That sounded pretty accurate to the.
John Holmberg
To the boom room.
Brady
Boom room.
Zachary Ray
I remember the first time that he made the boom room call. I was at home watching, and I looked at the screen and I was like, what did he just.
John Holmberg
My dad just said the boom.
Zachary Ray
And I texted Tanner, of all people.
John Holmberg
Yeah.
Zachary Ray
Like, why did he just say that? And now that's.
John Holmberg
It's his thing now. That's going to be T shirts and stuff.
Zachary Ray
Yep.
John Holmberg
And they.
Zachary Ray
They even last week or two weeks ago, the Sun's Instagram had posted, like, a bunch of memes. It was like, where were you the first time K. Ray called the boom room?
John Holmberg
Really? Yeah. And people remember this?
Zachary Ray
Yeah.
John Holmberg
Sad, sad lives.
Brady
And what's the background? How did he just come up with boom room?
Zachary Ray
It just. It just.
John Holmberg
It just fell out of his face.
Zachary Ray
And ej, ej, even on the air was like, what did you just say? Yeah, it's stuck.
John Holmberg
Yeah. And there it is. Now he's forced to do it.
Zachary Ray
Yeah.
John Holmberg
The boomerang.
Zachary Ray
There's even an account on son's Twitter that counts every time and each player that he calls it for.
John Holmberg
How about that?
Zachary Ray
Yeah.
John Holmberg
Interesting.
Zachary Ray
I'll. I'll send it to you.
John Holmberg
I didn't know that. Yeah, it's not normal. Speaking of not normal. And, Zach, I don't want you to feel uncomfortable, but this room gets weird sometimes.
Zachary Ray
Yeah.
John Holmberg
I want to. I want to be less. I want to find all the things no one's talking about on news that would be talking about it if we weren't so crazy. That's my new goal. That's my February goal, is that everybody else is talking about this, but if it wasn't going on, here's the news we would be talking about. I'm going to just read the first couple of paragraphs. Okay. There's a sentence that I think will stand out, and I have a feeling you'll all react. So Mary Mann once explained why he left his wife. And then it became a viral sensation. So Kim west had given birth to a son called Ben when she was 19, and she was in California. She was in college, and she was, you know, studying to be. I don't even know what. But she was in college very. Before placing him up for adoption around a week later. She was from the United Kingdom, so she was studying in California, got knocked up, had the baby, put it up for adoption. In 2013, Ben the baby decided to seek out his biological mother for the first time. Found her, and they've stayed in contact the whole time. Sort of a nice story.
Brady
So she had the baby in what year?
John Holmberg
I don't know.
Brady
So the kid was. I mean, he was like 20 or something. Were in college.
John Holmberg
I don't know.
Brady
Yeah. Okay.
John Holmberg
But it says, in 2013, Ben founder. And they've had phone calls and everything else. Then they decided, you know what? It was a few years later, we need to. We need to meet. It was like 2014, 2015, couple years after they'd first. We need to meet up together. So they tried to arrange times, and here's the sentence that I think is going to stand out. See if you can catch the subtleties. Okay. However, that meeting was different than they expected. What should have been an emotional meeting between mother and son immediately turned sexual.
Brady
Yep. I knew that was my call.
John Holmberg
Was it your call?
Brady
Yeah. If you would ask me what's gonna happen.
Brett Vesely
Called your shot on that.
John Holmberg
Yeah. You put that on your knee.
Brady
I was gonna go. That bad.
John Holmberg
Ben admitted the encounters were so mind blowing, he felt compelled to leave his wife of two years.
Zachary Ray
Oh, my God.
Brady
For mommy.
John Holmberg
Because he could no longer be intimate with his wife because he could only think of his mom.
Brett Vesely
What pornhub video were you watching this weekend?
Zachary Ray
Mind blowing, this.
John Holmberg
Yeah. Yeah. You know, it's bad enough that the whole time you're like, this is my biological mom, and this is tight. It'll never be the same.
Brett Vesely
You're so much bigger than your father.
John Holmberg
Exactly. And then you go back to your wife, and you're like, how'd it go? She's great. I love my new mom. When you can't tell your wife, like, I boned her. It was awesome. And then. So then he goes back into his wife. Yeah. He goes back into his wife. Well, yeah, because he had to. He had to break it off. He hosed the wife a couple times, like, it's just not the same as. As where I came is what he said. It's crazy. And so he breaks it off with his wife, hoping mom felt the same way. Oh, no, she does. I became even more aware of the fact that she thought I was spending too much time. This is the mom talking Too much time with Ben. His wife started to get suspicious. She would constantly call him when I. When he. When we were together, supposedly at lunch. Eventually, he admitted she was giving him a lot of grief about the time they were spending. And she calls you mummy girlfriend, which they probably laughed. And then she blew him. It says incestuous relationships, of course, are illegal in almost every country and that's scary to almost to say almost. But they spoke about wanting to have kids and I think maybe we should step in. I think maybe it's time as a society calling Dr. Lynn yeah.
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John Holmberg
53342 morning sickness they don't think their situation is incest. It's a genetic sexual attraction they say supposedly occurs when relatives who meet for the first time as adults experience knew each other right. But they have a connection and they confuse it for sex yeah, for, like, love. Like, intimate love.
Brady
They felt that, right, Zach?
John Holmberg
Yeah.
Zachary Ray
Never. Never.
John Holmberg
Well, I want to tell you something. I'm glad you're here today.
Zachary Ray
All right?
John Holmberg
Because the woman that you think is your mom has not been your mom the whole time. We have your real mom here now. Come on, bring her in. She's hot. She's willing to do it if you are. We've paid her a lot of money. Yeah, they said we're. We're like peas in a pod. We were meant to be together. And I know people will say we're disgusting, and that should be able to control our feelings, but when you're hit by love so consuming, you're willing to give up everything for it, and you must fight.
Zachary Ray
And this is her. That's my saying that. Yeah.
John Holmberg
That's mom talking.
Brady
No pictures.
John Holmberg
Yeah. Of. Of Ben. There's Ben. He's a. You know, he looks a little like some dude. He looks a little incestuous to begin with, to be honest with you. The eyes are a little far.
Brady
He's happy.
John Holmberg
And. Yeah, I don't think there is a picture mom, because, I mean, why would she do that? But. Yeah. So just know that that lady you're meeting online, when you have that instant connection, could be from the past and might be your mother. And you know who's happiest about this is Bill Belichick. Because now his relationship doesn't seem so strange. No, not at all. You know what's weird about this? So she never happens with daughters. Daughters, first off, very rarely seek out their dads and then meet them. And, like, they usually get mad. They show up mad. Like, they yell, where? Where were you my whole life? They don't, like, feel a sexual connection with them. This is clearly a crazy older woman. And, like, the dude, like, somebody needs to get involved in this, like, immediate.
Brady
You're saying it's not fair the dad has to groom the daughter.
John Holmberg
Yeah, and then he'd get in trouble. So that's my point, what I'm getting at. Why isn't this lady immediately thrown in jail the way a man would be if his daughter met him after 20 years?
Brady
Because there was some grooming.
John Holmberg
Well, sure, there are phone calls. And, like, God, I just feel so connected. Well, of course you feel connected. He fell out of your honeyhole. Everybody who's been in there, you have a connection with. He was in there the longest.
Zachary Ray
But.
John Holmberg
There'S no police involved. The whole story's like, we're supposed to just go. That's the way things work.
Brett Vesely
That's love.
John Holmberg
It's love. You can't stop love. Can't start it like a car, can't stop it like a. With a bullet. But if it was a dude immediately going to jail, even if it's not illegal in that country, he's like, nah, we gotta put you away forever.
Brett Vesely
How old are they again?
John Holmberg
Or he's. Well, it didn't really say. She was nine. I never really gave. Like 2013 is when they found each other and he had been married, I.
Brady
Think, in 2040, you know, 2242.
John Holmberg
Well, she was 19.
Brady
19.
John Holmberg
So yeah, there's a 20 year gap there. That's not so bad.
Zachary Ray
It's pretty good age gap.
Brady
2038.
John Holmberg
So she's expired. Yeah, she's not.
Brett Vesely
Well, then what's he doing?
John Holmberg
Yeah, exactly. Just find a mother his own age. Ew.
Zachary Ray
Ew.
John Holmberg
That's disgusting. Why not a sister? You know, date inside the family. You got to do it with somebody your own age. A pervert. Yeah, he says he was. He had to tell his wife.
Brady
We've had a couple of those.
John Holmberg
What?
Brady
Where the brother and sister.
John Holmberg
Yeah, they meet online, separate, 22 years later.
Brett Vesely
Where in Indiana is this?
John Holmberg
No, this is in the United Kingdom. So it's. It says Ben admitted his infidelity to his wife days after meeting his mother and soon moved in with his mom. They took him about.
Brady
Moved into her flat.
John Holmberg
Yeah, moved into Michigan. Who?
Zachary Ray
What? They've got accent.
John Holmberg
Well, he doesn't. She does.
Zachary Ray
Okay.
John Holmberg
Which is really sexy.
Brady
So he moved from England, Michigan.
John Holmberg
No.
Brady
Or the other way around.
John Holmberg
He was in California.
Brady
Okay.
John Holmberg
She moved back to England, and then now they're in Michigan together. So when he found her, she was back home in England and he was adopted in California.
Brady
Can she get instant US Citizenship if they.
John Holmberg
For marrying her son? Yeah, it's a good question. I don't know. I don't know.
Brady
I think it'll work.
John Holmberg
Could you imagine breaking that to your wife? I'm leaving you. I found someone else. Oh, my God.
Brady
Who is she?
John Holmberg
Is it Angela, my friend from work? No. God, no. Yuck. That would be gross. It's my mom.
Brett Vesely
What's mom look like? Do you got a picture?
John Holmberg
No, no pictures of mom. She's hot.
Brady
I bet you he broke that news just for another woman. Didn't tell.
John Holmberg
You gotta tell. You gotta say it's your mother.
Brady
You think I could see him leaving those details out? I'm just waiting for another woman for right now. Buying time.
John Holmberg
I think when you're driving around practicing that speech you go through both the one with her with the mom reveal.
Brady
And without them saying you want to lay out the whole nine yards. You wanna.
John Holmberg
I think that's scorched earth. And you have to let her off the hook by saying you can't just say I left you.
Brady
I think it's the better approach.
John Holmberg
And then later she finds out it was his mother.
Brady
Yeah.
John Holmberg
Like she's gonna kill everybody.
Zachary Ray
And then wait, he was married, right?
John Holmberg
He was married. Yes.
Brady
Left his young.
John Holmberg
Yeah. That's who he has to leave. His beautiful young brother.
Zachary Ray
Those legal papers had to be a little off. Are gonna be really crazy.
John Holmberg
It's not gonna be a normal ending. But just. Just know in this day and age it's easy to do a little research. Maybe hire a PI and say, you know, if you're not real sure that your. Your husband and mom are actually at lunch and you. You catch them at the days in.
Brady
And where is. Where is dad in the mix? I mean, you know, he was actually.
John Holmberg
Just a. I don't know that you're asking too many biblical questions. Here's the thing. I want everybody listening to do right now. Close your eyes. Picture your mom. Oh, there it is. That's it. No, I think that's mom. That's mom. I think that's the happy couple. Brett. Brett.
Brett Vesely
Found him.
Brady
Yeah.
John Holmberg
What are you doing? Picture your mother right now. Just go ahead and then now picture her reverse cowgirl. Can you do it? Is it possible? Most. That's proof. If you're normal, if you're immediately gonna. You're nauseous. If you're not nauseous, drive your car off a bridge immediately and get off my planet.
Brett Vesely
I mean what kind of pig was he married to to leave her for this? Yeah. No, I.
John Holmberg
Older broad. And how normal is the next relationship for the ex wife?
Brady
These are actors.
John Holmberg
Well, I was married for a little while. Oh, how did that. What? Didn't work out?
Zachary Ray
No.
John Holmberg
Oh he left me for his mother. Okay. Check. We're leaving. She's not you. You can never date again.
Zachary Ray
The original wife.
John Holmberg
Yeah. She's a mess forever like you said. I love it.
Brady
We'd like to do an article on you guys.
John Holmberg
Great. Well that's the funn about this is that they called.
Zachary Ray
They submitted this story themselves.
John Holmberg
Well, they called a. I think it was a publishing house. They had a. They want to write a book about this. Yeah.
Brett Vesely
How about that 50s.
John Holmberg
Well that's just disgusting.
Brady
Yeah.
John Holmberg
What you doing that is repulsive. That. That turned my stomach almost more than the fact that's his mother? Yeah.
Brett Vesely
Inspired milk.
John Holmberg
Zach, have you ever dated a woman your mother's age?
Zachary Ray
No.
John Holmberg
But you would. No, you wouldn't.
Zachary Ray
Not saying I would.
John Holmberg
Hot woman. You're not gonna hold a guy, are you?
Zachary Ray
Huh?
John Holmberg
How old are you?
Zachary Ray
Almost 26.
John Holmberg
Okay. Yeah. You're not ruling that it's close. And again, just like the same story, just Ben and mom. I mean, if it's just your mom's friend and you meet at lunch, he'd go 52. You do it. 50. What's the. What's the cutoff? Because she's here today we've got a whole gaggle of women in their 50s. If you name the right age, she'll come in.
Zachary Ray
There's been a 42 year old.
John Holmberg
Oh, how old were you? Nice kill, kid.
Brett Vesely
20.
John Holmberg
Nice. The Ray Killers. No kidding. How did that happen? Tell us all.
Brady
McCoy was. Chad.
John Holmberg
Yeah, McCoy. That's mine. Give me that piece. Was he on the other side? High five.
Brett Vesely
Zr.
John Holmberg
Shazam. What a shot. What a burger.
Zachary Ray
Just hands up.
John Holmberg
No. What? McCoy wasn't there? No, he wasn't it. Move your head out of the way. I can't see your cans. Take her to the boot room. No, McCoy. McCoy was not there. Wouldn't it be great though? That would have been awesome.
Zachary Ray
Just off the side call.
John Holmberg
He's calling it. Oh, even better. Zachary Mounts. Yes. He's in. Playing very little defense. Shazam. He's hard. The McCoy call would have been awesome.
Zachary Ray
Imagine that though.
John Holmberg
I am trying, but joking. How do you meet a woman twice your age and talk her into it? At 20? She was recently divorced.
Brady
Couple of drinks.
John Holmberg
This was when you were working at the bar in Scottsdale. That's. I know what you're up to. He worked at a bar in Scottsdale. And it was a cougar party. No, just by herself. Just gaggle of girls sitting in the bar. One takes a liking to the young stud behind the bar washing dishes. Were you smooth or was she just jokes. Just recently divorced.
Zachary Ray
Maybe a month working with me.
John Holmberg
Oh, all right. Kid's a killer.
Brady
She groomed you?
John Holmberg
Yeah.
Zachary Ray
No.
John Holmberg
And you didn't after a couple of times called it off. All right. He's just throwing up hand signals. You brought it up. If you bring it up in this room, you gotta play. I did and you answered, so I appreciate that. It's son's announcer prodigy after too.
Zachary Ray
Yeah, yeah.
Brady
He's got along.
John Holmberg
He doesn't like this.
Brady
Like it's not you, it's me.
John Holmberg
That's all right.
Brady
I feel you're. My mom. I can't.
John Holmberg
You want to go out with her again? We'll pay for it.
Zachary Ray
Not anymore. No.
John Holmberg
No. Is she crazy?
Zachary Ray
No. He's been there.
John Holmberg
He's been done that, you know, years ago, six years ago.
Brady
Years, baby.
John Holmberg
He spend ages. You wanna have her? We should have a reunion. What do you think she's doing? She's still working in bars.
Zachary Ray
I have no idea.
John Holmberg
That's even hotter. Like if she's pushing 50 and she's over at the pub and grub or something.
Brady
Dirty drummer.
John Holmberg
She's at the drummer.
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Zachary Ray
What'S the what's the Irish.
John Holmberg
Bar in Gilbert Seamus no, that's downtown.
Brady
That's downtown. It's Fibber McGee.
Zachary Ray
Yes.
John Holmberg
I don't know if that's real. Is that where she works? All right, well, if you were 42 and you boned a young man at a bar in Scottsdale, just call us today, please. Let us know if it still burns. It's crazy. Pretty great. She had two boobs or three?
Zachary Ray
She. Three.
John Holmberg
Three. She had a third can. I like it. I like it. Yeah. I said everybody's coming in with their calls for you for Al McCoy. Oh, yeah, that. Let's get a 42 year old on top of him. But he's still giving her the death ray. Shazam. I like it. Yeah, I think you should. 23andMe everybody you've ever thought of dating, you know, there isn't an ounce of anytime you're.
Brady
Why are we hitting it off so much?
John Holmberg
Yeah. If you get too much chemistry, like, you're like, this is great. And like, in Zach's case, it can be an older lady and you just don't even understand, like, why are we so connected? Like, this is awesome. You're probably related is what I'm learning. That's probably something to it that you're like, you might have. You might have hit it off with someone and then gone. Yeah, there's a history that we don't even understand here. You're related to her. It could be your mom. Check it out. Especially if you're adopted. You got to do extra work if you're adopted to make sure that the person. A relative. It's disgusting.
Brady
It seems like we see it more in the. The brother and sister combo.
John Holmberg
Yeah, they find each other states. And you're right, though. They find the news. And that's the craziest part.
Brady
It's like, no, you're not doing an article.
John Holmberg
Yeah, no, thank you. We heard you guys might be mother and son. That's not important here. But sure enough, that happens more than you think. But just, you know, take a look across the room this morning while you're eating your grapefruit and go, wonder if that's my sister. If you were ever adopted, and you might not know you were adopted, be careful. You also could have one of those situations where your family lied to you the whole time and you're not really your dad's daughter. You know, one of those deals or son. And then you're out there and you find that, you know, that lady who's about 20 years older, product of a mistress or something like that, kept it like, Dave Grohl's got that side baby with that lady.
Brett Vesely
That's right.
Zachary Ray
Whatever happened with that?
John Holmberg
They're fine now.
Zachary Ray
Yeah.
John Holmberg
This guy says guys like that with.
Brady
Grohl or even, you know, Ozzy back in the day. How many that you find out, like, later.
John Holmberg
There's a baby that shows up. This one says, you're doing the Lord's work. Jewburg. Nobody at KTAR Ladonna, they'd never cover this story. That's exactly right. They're too busy riling you up about ice. That's enough. I don't know about this Zach guy, going around banging all these old broads. Can't you get young snooch? Oh, he can't.
Brady
He's mixing it in a relationship now.
John Holmberg
Are you in a relationship right now? No.
Zachary Ray
Open man.
John Holmberg
All right. All ages can apply, right? Yeah.
Zachary Ray
I don't know.
John Holmberg
Six years ago. She's 48 now, so let's keep that. Keep it together. I'm for it. This one says, oh, no, I can't do that one right now. It's not in the right spot. I just had to get that out. That's right. I'll get it out. That's right. That's fair enough. Not applicable to Zach Hammer and all those elderly women. It is. Yeah. Zachary is here today instead. And that is our gift to Brady for Brady Graw. Later. Are you looking to win any prizes later? You're going to sit in, answer trivia questions with Brady.
Brady
Yes.
John Holmberg
About just random topics. And whatever you win, you'll be winning a prize for your father. You don't get to keep it.
Zachary Ray
Yeah, not for me.
John Holmberg
In the past, there's been sauce motos, which are little clips that go on your air conditioning vents in your cart. You can put your sauces to dip your chicken fingers in.
Zachary Ray
Okay, totally true.
Brady
You got some nugs in the car.
John Holmberg
You got nuggets. Brandy knows. If you've got nugs and no dip, you're fumbling.
Zachary Ray
Sauce Moto. What's the best nugget?
John Holmberg
Oh, wow.
Zachary Ray
Where from?
John Holmberg
You've just made him so hard.
Brady
Called WTF. It's on Buckeye in 12th street downtown.
Zachary Ray
Never heard of it.
Brady
They got some good nugs.
John Holmberg
You got to learn early, Zach, that if you're going to be in this room, you cannot distract him with what are the best nugs. Because.
Brady
Or food.
John Holmberg
Yeah. You know, how to hypnotize old people is basically what I learned. One thing I know about Zach, who.
Brady
Makes good planks, they're bigger than nuggets. Opened a can of work.
John Holmberg
He didn't even hear me say, don't ask him those. His brain's just been going.
Brady
Those are good. Those are good planks.
John Holmberg
Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Nobody cares about this.
Brady
Great question, Zach.
John Holmberg
All right, now, did anybody else see this weekend, the greatest boxing situation in the history of boxing?
Zachary Ray
Right.
John Holmberg
Gerald Miller. His hairpiece, Big Baby, got punched off of his head, and instead of trying to flatten it back down, he threw it into the crowd.
Zachary Ray
Well, did you see the guy who caught it?
John Holmberg
No.
Zachary Ray
Courtside. Oh, my God.
John Holmberg
It's insane. Yeah.
Zachary Ray
No, there's a. There's a video. I'll have to send it to you.
Brady
Pull it up.
Zachary Ray
Yeah.
John Holmberg
I have had a mouthpiece fall out at a boxing match and land next to me.
Zachary Ray
Really?
John Holmberg
It's really cool. It was an undercard fight. I was on the second row ringside, and a kid got. Just smashed and his mouthpiece shot out and landed not. Not in my seat, but two seats over, and there it was. And some guy came. Nobody touched it. Nobody wanted. It's gross. Yeah. And then. So some guy came over from a corner. I don't even know if it was that guy's corner. And just picked it up with his gloved hands and walked away.
Zachary Ray
The guy that tossed it to. There's a video. He's sitting there ringside. I don't think that he had anyone sitting next to him. And he's just the two paces in there.
John Holmberg
Yeah, you keep that, right? Yeah. That doesn't go back. That is.
Brady
And he won the fight.
John Holmberg
Oh, yeah. No, it was a. It was a. Did he win it? Yeah, it was a. Miller won a.
Brady
Split decision, but he lost his toupee.
John Holmberg
Yeah, well, the guy who hit him watched his hair flap. If you haven't seen the video, it's great. His hair flaps on an uppercut, and the guy punched him, starts laughing. Yeah. And it's just. And he has to peel it off, and the line of glue is still there, and he just chucks it into the crowd, which is the worst and yet greatest souvenir in the history of sports.
Brady
He explained that after the fight, he lost his real hair two days earlier when he accidentally washed it with ammonia bleach instead of shampoo. No way. Then he added, I'm a comedian. You have to make fun of yourself.
John Holmberg
Can't be real. Just shave it off. Then he didn't lose his hair from washing with ammonia bleach. That fight would have been canceled.
Brady
It's pretty light there.
John Holmberg
Okay. But. All right. Just bleached his head. That doesn't have that. And then he just. I mean, this dude just knocking that hairpiece off, and then he starts laughing and. But he rips his hairpiece off and chucks it, because what else are you gonna do?
Zachary Ray
Oh, my God.
John Holmberg
But he's lying. He went bald. You don't. Two days ago. I'll tell you this right now, as a bald man. Two days ago, if I'd lost my hair. Let's say if I lost my hair Friday, I wouldn't have had it replaced.
Brett Vesely
No. You're shaving your head today. Yeah.
John Holmberg
Like. And you guys wouldn't notice with a Velcro dinner plate. Yeah, yeah.
Zachary Ray
The top of it. Like, he kept whatever that is.
John Holmberg
That's glue. Yeah, yeah. He kept what was left. Whatever the ammonia bleach did left a nice little border for him to glue his new hair to, and he had to go find it. And plus, you're gonna go into a boxing ring, you're sweating. You'd be so concerned the whole time, your corner would have to say, you did what? Now, see, man, I washed my hair with bleach and ammonia, and then I got no hair. It's like, well, you're just gonna fight without hair? No, I can't let the people see me that way. And then he. And so his corner would have been like, you're going to be distracted the whole time with iba or I. Whoever.
Brady
The guy, he's boxing.
John Holmberg
Yeah.
Brady
Could he protest?
John Holmberg
Why?
Brady
Illegal equipment in the room.
John Holmberg
I think it gave him a benefit, an advantage.
Brady
If he headbutt him a couple of.
John Holmberg
Times, I'll tell you right now, as many times as I've been in sparring matches and things, a dude goes in clearly with a toupee. It's my goal. I don't care if I lose this fight. I'm going to swing for that thing constantly. I'm not working the body once. I'm going away from the game plan. That toupee is going to at least half fly off.
Brady
It's all uppercuts.
John Holmberg
Yeah, it's nothing but uppercuts and strong, whippy hook shots to try to top his head.
Brett Vesely
Why is he washing his hair with bleach and ammonia?
John Holmberg
Why is it even close to the shower?
Brett Vesely
Is he out of Clarol or something?
John Holmberg
What the hell is wrong with this idiot? Even in the shower, do you have ammonia bleach?
Brady
Yeah.
John Holmberg
I mean, and then confuse it for shampoo. It's just a lie. He just lied. He's lost his hair and he's been wearing a toupee the whole time, but not anymore. Now he's free as a bald man.
Zachary Ray
It was almost like the. The Jaylen Brown thing.
John Holmberg
Oh, yeah.
Zachary Ray
Remember with the spray paint?
John Holmberg
Pretty great. He sprayed it on. It reminded me of the wnba. Now this is how cool dudes are versus women in the wnba. What's her name? Got her hair pulled off in the middle of a thing and her weave. And then she grabbed her head and ran off the court in the middle of the game. Her hair fell off.
Zachary Ray
Natasha Cloud.
John Holmberg
I don't. Come on, man. Okay. What are you doing? What are you auditioning?
Zachary Ray
I know more.
John Holmberg
I know more WNBA than you do. I hope so.
Zachary Ray
Yeah.
John Holmberg
I'm a straight male. It's crazy.
Brady
She went to the broom room.
John Holmberg
Yes. It was nicotine. It was. It was Natasha Cloud. We all know. Yeah, that's her. Yeah, that's the one. So she runs off. Her hair fell off. Someone in the front row and she left the game. Like, where'd she go? It's like, oh, is this. Her hair wouldn't come back, right? No. She was horrified and someone in the front row teased her and got kicked out. A man's hair falls off on a pay per view fight and he's the laughingstock of all the boxing. And there he is with his arms in the air smiling like, you can have it. Yeah, this is the shot. This is the. I'm a lot, but this is the game. Her hair fell off. Watch out. I got to go.
Zachary Ray
Oh, no.
John Holmberg
Oh, no.
Zachary Ray
She gonna go.
John Holmberg
Head to the back. Yeah, she just left. You can't do that. She had to go glue her hair back on.
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John Holmberg
Called.
Brett Vesely
You have time out for weaves.
John Holmberg
Yes.
Brett Vesely
League is ridiculous.
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John Holmberg
Holberg's morning sickness.
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Brett Vesely
Cancel it.
John Holmberg
Now and then they kick the guy out of the game for teasing her.
Brett Vesely
He should be happy about that.
John Holmberg
Well, thank God. Instead, she should have picked her weave up and thrown it into the crowd. It would have been a souvenir.
Brett Vesely
Oh, yeah.
John Holmberg
To one of the owners of Title 9 Sports Bar. And it would have been a fantastic. I loved every second of that. But see, this is why men's sports has a sense of humor about itself. If your hair falls off in the middle of anything, it's immediately funny, especially if you grab it. Can you imagine that happened in a football game? It's like, you know, we've had just.
Brady
A couple of strands been used.
John Holmberg
Well, sure, Palomalu's been tackled by his hair, but if it all came off, you would understand because it's attached to his head. But if you found out that Palomalu had a weave and somebody tackled and it came out and was like, it's a weave.
Brady
Everybody take his helmet off.
John Holmberg
A cry, and then Troy grabs the weave and runs into the locker room, you'd be like, oh, Troy's never going to come back again. This isn't good.
Zachary Ray
That would be the craziest NFL.
John Holmberg
Like, like, hey, why'd you do that?
Zachary Ray
If Troy Palomalo just had fake hair.
John Holmberg
The whole time when they had us all fooled, we'd hate him. We'd be mad at him, his identity. Then they show that lady's weave. Why wear a wig during a sporting event? It just doesn't add up. You're gonna sweat. It's gonna come off. It's just strange. Just strange. I don't understand any of it. But he won.
Brady
I think she paid, you know, decent money for that Wii that if, especially if I'm in basketball or football, I want a good weave.
John Holmberg
Well, yeah.
Brett Vesely
WNBA money. So she doesn't have a good week.
John Holmberg
She's. And Natasha's not a superstar.
Zachary Ray
Yeah.
John Holmberg
So it's a mid level dollar store. It's dollar store.
Brett Vesely
Yeah.
Zachary Ray
If you do get that. Where you put that, is that ebay or toupee?
Brady
I was just gonna Check to see.
John Holmberg
If it's up by the wayside. Weave in a full. Let's go back a story. Yeah. One of my cop buddies just text me and said, how for you to leave your wife for your mom. It says, can you imagine? And everybody do what the police say. That's what I mean. We're in a time when it's time to protest everything. But the cop just emailed me and said, can you imagine eating the. You came out of. Oh, my God. We'll be right back, everybody. We'll be right back. The first time you're like, all right, go get me some mama.
Brady
Okay.
Zachary Ray
Oh, my God.
John Holmberg
Oh, it's just like your dad. You remember. Tell me about Daddy.
Brady
It was years ago.
John Holmberg
Well, you have his hands and his fingers. And his fingers. It tickles the same as it did 19 years.
Brady
You have his tongue.
John Holmberg
You remind me of him so much.
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John Holmberg
Tell me more about him. Thank you. I love you, Mom.
Brady
Just don't have time to talk.
John Holmberg
Mother's Day. They have, like, romantic weekends. Anyway, the officer asked, so I had to do it. An officer asked, I complied. I had my hands up. He asked me a question, I answered it. That's what you do with the police. He said, can you imagine eating the. You came out of. My hands, went up, and I answered the officer's question. That's all I do here. Yes, officer. I can't imagine that. I'm gonna lay down for you.
Brady
That's the right person.
John Holmberg
I'm gonna be in a fetal position. The mom had to be like, you know, he's kissing her neck, and she's like, oh, this is weird. And then he's. And then her chest. Okay, maybe. And as he works to the stomach, she had to, like, grab his head and go, I don't think this is a good idea.
Brett Vesely
Idea.
John Holmberg
No. I want to give you pleasure.
Brett Vesely
Or she pulled it up.
Brady
When they first contacted each other, you know, and then sent a picture, he's like, I'm kind of attracted to you.
Zachary Ray
Who reached out to who again?
John Holmberg
Well, he found her. Okay. But they didn't do that.
Zachary Ray
He.
John Holmberg
They. He found her. And then when they met, they're like, oh, the energy in the room is so much more than they did.
Brady
Some correspond, some pen.
Brett Vesely
They did.
John Holmberg
They did. They. But there wasn't sexual. They didn't know it was sexual till they were together. Yeah. When they arranged a time. And they probably had some odd flirtatious things. They're like, was that what I think it was? Does this wanna. And then. Yeah.
Brady
And Then it was Hammer time.
John Holmberg
And then it was and it remains Hammer time to this day. Yep, yep, they're in love. Anyway, picture your mom. Call your mom today. I say, everybody. When's the last time you called your mom, Zach? This morning. Did you call her this morning?
Brady
She's up early, man.
John Holmberg
What'd you call her this morning? Yeah. You got here at 5:50.
Zachary Ray
Yeah.
John Holmberg
You called her before. Oh, hold on. Is she in the bed with you? What the hell? You called her the see you later. What for?
Zachary Ray
Say hi. At 6, she gets up.
Brady
Did you pack your lunch?
John Holmberg
Yeah. What are you doing? What are you wearing?
Brady
She packed your lunch?
John Holmberg
Did she pack your lunch?
Zachary Ray
Relax.
John Holmberg
No, I mean that. That's a euphemism for did she pack your lunch? Oh. Anyway, it's fun having you, Zach.
Brett Vesely
She's listening.
John Holmberg
Yeah. Is she listening? Did you call her to tell her meatloaf tonight I want to come home and smell bacon in the house?
Brady
What'd you ask her? Did you ask her some stuff? Yeah.
John Holmberg
What do you call your mom today? Really? You just called her. That's lovely. What a nice thing. Nobody does that. It's really nice.
Brady
Yeah.
John Holmberg
You called your mom at 6 to just say, have a nice day?
Zachary Ray
She gets up the same time I do.
John Holmberg
All right, shoot. All right, all right, tell me more.
Brady
New story starting to open up.
John Holmberg
Keep going, Keep talking. That's good stuff.
Brett Vesely
You didn't call Marcy this morning?
John Holmberg
No.
Brett Vesely
At four in the morning?
John Holmberg
No, I talked to Bunny yesterday, rolled over and I said, sorry I woke.
Brady
Bunny called me yesterday afternoon. Wish me a happy birthday.
John Holmberg
Oh, yeah, it's your birthday. That's nice. Yeah. Brady. We used to tease Brady because he sent his mom those chocolate covered strawberries for which is sexy.
Zachary Ray
Really?
John Holmberg
For Mother's Day, he would send his mom chocolate. No, it wasn't Mother's Day. It was Valentine's Day. Mother's Day.
Brady
They do them both.
John Holmberg
Oh, geez. Yeah, but you missed it.
Zachary Ray
Well, Brand.
Brett Vesely
Yeah.
Zachary Ray
Oh, Sherry.
John Holmberg
He had a deal. Oh, yeah, Sherry from down at the arena.
Brady
She made him.
Zachary Ray
Oh, this. Anyway.
John Holmberg
Well, that's nice. And yeah, to Zach's mom, everybody. She's got it coming.
Brady
Can we call her?
John Holmberg
Call and say hi?
Brett Vesely
No.
Brady
Have you met his mom?
John Holmberg
I don't think I've ever. I don't think so. I don't think I've ever been on the phone with my mom at 6 in the morning.
Zachary Ray
Morning.
John Holmberg
Ever.
Zachary Ray
No, that was. That wasn't the question.
John Holmberg
I know, but I don't think I've ever, like, I'll ring her up now. Yeah.
Brady
You wouldn't think of reaching out at that early. But if you knew she was up, you would.
John Holmberg
I would. Have to be an emergency. She would think someone's dead. If her phone rang at 6 and it was me, she's like, oh, that's.
Brady
Because you don't know. But normally, like, he knows Monday morning.
John Holmberg
Quick, call the mom at 6.
Brett Vesely
I don't call anybody at 6 in the morning.
John Holmberg
Me neither.
Brett Vesely
Doesn't matter who.
Brady
He could be doing a bed check with his mom.
John Holmberg
I can hear.
Brett Vesely
Just roll over.
Brady
Who you with?
John Holmberg
Yeah, who's in there? That's nice. All right, well, there you go. Zach, you're a better person than all of us.
Brady
You're not with your other son.
John Holmberg
Yeah.
Zachary Ray
Good callback. Good call.
John Holmberg
That's solid. He's jealous his mom's cheating on him with his brother. There's no boundaries over there. Brett, what do you got on the big board of Musical Treats?
Brett Vesely
Wake up song time. And we got a ton of stuff up here. Apparently it's Robert DiLeo's birthday.
John Holmberg
Oh, from Stone Temple Fire.
Brett Vesely
Yeah. So Cracker man. On the list, Mastodon, Motionless and Wide Ice, Nine Kills, Fozzie, Rage against the Machine, Lamb of God, Van Halen, Megadeth, Shinedown, Body Count, and Avenge Sevenfold.
John Holmberg
Said so. My first words I heard this morning on the radio was, can you imagine eating the. That you came out of? Sorry to start your day like that, but go back and listen to podcast. You'll catch the entirety of the story. The British mother, her son, or found love 19 years after. Yikes. Yeah, we'll get a little STP. Let's do cracker Man. That's a good one. That's a good solid one. Get that started.
Brady
Obscure Birthday. I. I know you'll know this one.
John Holmberg
Okay.
Brady
He's would have been 87 today. Robert Mandan.
John Holmberg
Robert Mandan from Soap. That was Chester Tate. Yeah. Still alive.
Brady
No.
John Holmberg
Oh, Robert Mandan. Soap was a great show. Hilarious. Speaking of great shows in American history, also this weekend kind of came and went with all the things going on. Nobody paid attention to the facts. The great Desmond Wilson.
Brady
Yeah.
John Holmberg
From Sanford and Son has passed away.
Brady
79 years old.
John Holmberg
That's. You didn't watch any Sanford and Son. You missed out on all of it. So there's whole stations dedicated to Sanford. You need to watch at least a couple episodes of. Of the greatest comedian of all time. And we'll. When we're off here, we'll play the clip of when Fred Sanford. This is how different TV was in the 70s when he was in court. You remember that one? Oh, yeah. It's a legendary classic television scene.
Zachary Ray
Okay.
John Holmberg
Where they used to. It's pretty. Everybody Google it today. Fred Sanford, Sanford and Son for Lamont in Court. And do it for Lamont. It was the. It won the Emmy for comedy, best comedy series, like two or three years in a row. It was the. One of the funniest shows you'll ever watch. I wasn't alive when it was on, but reruns.
Brett Vesely
He's not gonna do any more job fairs anymore, apparently.
John Holmberg
No, he can't. That was who I used to always lean on when I was the voice of Kiss 12:30. That's how it works. Cracker man for Lamont. We'll throw that out there for Robert Daleo, who's 60 years old. Stone Temple pilots have a 60 year old out. Zach's asking what his wife looks like. How old is she? It's Cracker man, everybody. It's 98 Kup. Wake him up. Arizona's most powerful rock radio station. He said fully erect.
Episode: 02-02-26
Date: February 2, 2026
Host: John Holmberg, with Brady Bogen, Brett Vesely, Dick Toledo. Guest: Zachary Ray (son of Suns announcer Kevin Ray)
This lively episode swings from Arizona sports analysis to jaw-dropping and comedic takes on a truly bizarre viral news story: a man leaving his wife for his biological mother, whom he met as an adult. The morning crew, joined by “Nepo baby” Zachary Ray, riffs through uncomfortable laughter, incredulity, and signature irreverent banter, before swapping wild stories about boxing, wigs, and age-gap couplings.
[03:39 – 05:35]
[07:46 – 16:22, 18:48 – 20:39, 27:02 – 28:29, 34:55 – 35:41]
[20:25 – 24:38]
[29:19 – 34:16]
On the viral story’s twist:
"What should have been an emotional meeting between mother and son immediately turned sexual."
— John Holmberg, reading the article [09:37]
Disbelief:
"Oh, my God."
— Zachary Ray [09:54]
Explaining the ‘connection’:
"Of course you feel connected. He fell out of your honeyhole. Everybody who's been in there, you have a connection with. He was in there the longest."
— John Holmberg [15:31]
On navigating mother-son “romance”:
"I'm leaving you. I found someone else."
— John Holmberg, jokingly enacting the break-up [17:29]
On the toupee snafu:
"His hair flaps on an uppercut, and the guy punched him, starts laughing…he has to peel it off…then chucks it into the crowd, which is the worst and yet greatest souvenir in the history of sports."
— John Holmberg [31:37]
On the difference between men's and women's sports reactions:
"A man's hair falls off on a pay per view fight and he's the laughingstock…with his arms in the air smiling… A woman's weave comes off, she runs off the court and cries."
— John Holmberg [37:19]
| Time | Topic / Segment | |--------------|-------------------------------------------------------------------| | 03:39 | Cardinals hire Mike LaFleur; coaching talk; Kyler discussion | | 07:46 | Introduction of viral "man marries mom" story | | 09:37 | Key article quote; room reaction | | 15:19 | Double-standards, legality of mother-son incest, role reversal | | 19:08 | “Picture your mother…” – Holmberg’s ultimate disgust test | | 21:04 | Zach admits to dating a 42-year-old at 20 | | 30:28 | Boxer Gerald Miller’s toupee incident recounted | | 31:37 | The “greatest souvenir” line | | 37:19 | Gender difference in handling on-court hair malfunctions | | 41:54 | Zach jokes about calling his mom every morning |
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