02-04-25 - Time To Blow Up The Suns - Emailers Comment On Toledo's Latest Tucson Update - The Saints Helped Catholic Church Handle Their Admission Of Child Sex Abuse In New Orleans

Summary

Podcast Summary: Holmberg's Morning Sickness - Arizona Episode: 02-04-25 - Time To Blow Up The Suns - Emailers Comment On Toledo's Latest Tucson Update - The Saints Helped Catholic Church Handle Their Admission Of Child Sex Abuse In New Orleans
Release Date: February 4, 2025
Host: John Holmberg
Co-Hosts: Brady Bogen, Bret Vesely, and Dick Toledo
Platform: 98KUPD | Hubbard Radio

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1. Devin Booker and the Phoenix Suns' Struggles

The episode opens with a heated discussion centered around Devin Booker's achievement as the Phoenix Suns' all-time leading scorer. Brett Vesely passionately criticizes the team's management, arguing that despite Booker's individual success, the Suns have failed to build a cohesive and competitive team around him.

• Brett Vesely [01:35]:
  “Now he's the leading scorer in Sun's history and he will be for years.”

Brett continues to express his frustration with the Suns’ inability to capitalize on Booker's performance, particularly highlighting recent losses to the Portland Trailblazers despite Booker’s record-breaking night.

• Brett Vesely [02:13]:
  “He is the only trade piece you've got. This team is heartless.”

He laments the lack of team spirit and strategic planning, emphasizing that Booker's dedication hasn’t translated into postseason success.

• Brett Vesely [02:06]:
  “Who was it at the Walter Davis Sweet deed. It lasted 40 years. This record, it's huge.”

Ken, another co-host, reflects on the historical context, noting that previous Suns players rarely managed to leave a lasting legacy, making Booker's record even more significant.

• Ken [02:12]:
  “It's crazy. I didn't think it was that. I mean think about the Sun's teams are like 92.”

The conversation delves into the futility of the current management's strategies, with Brett advocating for a complete overhaul of the team to restore its former glory.

• Brett Vesely [03:47]:
  “I see a future here. I don't know how you do it with the Bears.”

David joins in, providing a contrasting perspective but ultimately agreeing with the sentiment that drastic changes are necessary.

2. Dick Toledo's Personal Life and Commercials

Transitioning from sports, the discussion shifts to Dick Toledo’s personal life, particularly critiquing the juxtaposition of his life story with his commercial promotions.

• Brett Vesely [00:35]:
  “Somebody Phil said, man, you talked about Toledo's life story and I don't know if you did this on purpose, but you were talking about his situation and then you went right into a commercial where Toledo talks about low testosterone and losing his sick drive. John, that's diabolical.”

Brett speculates that Toledo’s behavior might be a cry for help, highlighting the awkward transition between personal anecdotes and promotional content.

• Brett Vesely [04:17]:
  “Let's get back to ripping on Toledo's kid. I didn't need Bartman to make an appearance this morning.”

The conversation satirizes the implications of Toledo’s commercials on his personal relationships and public image, painting a picture of turmoil and questionable decisions.

• Brett Vesely [05:25]:
  “What are you doing? What are you. What? Oh, I can't wait.”

Kenneth and David interject with light-hearted remarks, maintaining the show's comedic tone while criticizing Toledo’s apparent personal issues.

3. The Saints' Involvement in the Catholic Church's Child Sex Abuse Scandal

A substantial portion of the episode is dedicated to exposing alleged misconduct involving the New Orleans Saints and the Catholic Church. Brett Vesely reveals disturbing information about the Saints assisting the archbishop of New Orleans in covering up child sex abuse cases.

• Brett Vesely [05:27]:
  “Also, people need to. If you're a fan of the Saints, maybe stop it. I don't know if you guys are seeing what's going on there, but it's all leaking out to Leonardo.”

He elaborates on the severity of the situation, accusing the Saints of actively participating in the concealment of abuse.

• Brett Vesely [06:10]:
  “They were asked, can you help us with some PR and some work and like, oh, absolutely. We'll help you with that. We're the Saints.”

David corroborates Brett's claims, emphasizing the role of emails that suggest the Saints were complicit in covering up these heinous acts.

• David [06:10]:
  “That's what I was saying recently.”

The co-hosts draw parallels between the Saints' scandal and other sports-related controversies, questioning the inconsistent repercussions faced by different figures within the sports industry.

• Brett Vesely [07:31]:
  “because they made Daniel Snyder essentially sell the Washington Commanders because of a couple of emails about cheerleaders being naked.”

Ken adds to the criticism by pointing out the disparity in how different organizations handle misconduct.

• Ken [08:07]:
  “Father Dale can cruise over and be the commissioner of the league now.”

Brett vehemently argues that the Saints and the Catholic Church have too much power, allowing them to avoid accountability.

• Brett Vesely [08:27]:
  “The church didn't. Yeah, that's what I'm saying.”

David and Ken agree, suggesting that systemic changes are necessary to prevent such abuses of power and ensure justice is served.

• David [09:10]:
  “We'll say look into it.”

The discussion concludes with a call for more transparency and accountability, urging listeners to scrutinize the actions of powerful organizations and demand ethical behavior.

4. Final Thoughts and Upcoming Content

As the episode nears its end, Brett touches briefly on upcoming releases and maintains the show's signature edgy humor.

• Brett Vesely [10:27]:
  “John Gruden will get fired again for another email in this mix.”

Despite the intense topics discussed, the hosts ensure the conversation remains engaging and thought-provoking, encouraging listeners to stay informed and critical of the institutions they support.

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Notable Quotes:

• Brett Vesely [02:13]:
  “He is the only trade piece you've got. This team is heartless.”

• Brett Vesely [06:42]:
  “We were raping a bunch of kids. Yeah, absolutely. Step in my office, we'll help you with that.”

• David [09:10]:
  “We'll say look into it.”

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Conclusion

In this episode of Holmberg's Morning Sickness, the hosts deliver a fiery critique of the Phoenix Suns' management and Devin Booker's role, alongside a deeply unsettling exposé on the New Orleans Saints' alleged involvement in covering up child sex abuse within the Catholic Church. Through spirited debates and unabashed opinions, Brett Vesely, Ken, and David provide listeners with a blend of sports analysis and socio-cultural commentary, urging accountability and transparency in both sports and broader societal institutions.

Transcript

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[Brett]

Still streaming Homberg's morning sickness online at 98kupd.com man, that Toledo kid story has me just spinning. Hilarious. Just hilarious. Somebody Phil said, man, you talked about Toledo's life story and I don't know if you did this on purpose, but you were talking about his situation and then you went right into a commercial where Toledo talks about low testosterone and losing his sick drive. John, that's diabolical. I didn't do that on purpose. In fact, Toledo's in charge of those commercials. Maybe it was a cry for help. What a morning. Between him and Ken and his crazy wife. This is just this show's doing itself this morning. This is fantastic. Also, for all you people who have emailed me over the last year and a half about how insane I am to trade Devin Booker and get huh huh. Now's the time.

[Ken]

But now he's the leading scorer in Sun's history and he will be for years.

[Brett]

So it's time to jettison him. The only thing you can do now is add to that pile. Get rid of him now. He is the only trade piece you've got. This team is heartless. Last night, for those who weren't paying attention, Devin Booker became the all time scorer for the Phoenix Suns. He's got more points as a Phoenix sun than anyone who's ever worn the uniform. And the 55 years that's been a team, nobody has scored more points than Devin Booker as a son. Who was it at the Walter Davis Sweet deed. It lasted 40 years. This record, it's huge.

[Ken]

It's crazy. I didn't think it was that. I mean think about the Sun's teams are like 92.

[Brett]

Nobody stayed.

[Ken]

I know.

[Brett]

But yeah, I mean KJ would have been the one, but he didn't score 26 a night. Yeah, Kevin was an assists guy. Barkley was only here for three years. You know you forget like Tom Chambers was here for a while and he scored a ton of points, but he was only in his prime with the sun from 88 to like 92, then he was a bench player. This is 10 years of Devin Booker. People forget. He's been here for like, this is year nine, I think nine. So he's like, he's been here for a minute and he's all time leading scorer. Last night that team could not get past Deandre Ayton and the Portland Trailblazers. For the second time in three days, this average ass Portland team beat him. And it's on Devin Booker's special night. Your all time leading scorer breaks the record. And you can't muscle up and beat the Blazers just for him. You can't do it. You're heartless. That's a heartless bunch. And Devin Booker, poor bastard, gets fouled at the end of overtime from the three point line. Three free throws to tie. Misses the last one. He was 12 of 13 from the free throw line. This team is heartless. I've been screaming it for I don't know how long. Trade all of them. I'm a season ticket holder. You know how hard it is for me. Want to go to one of these games? Because this team's going nowhere. And I paid for a team that was supposed to be good. And I know I'll sit with a team and ride the ebbs and flows, but when, boy, when they are heartless, it's hard to be there and say, I see a future here. That's all I ask for with the team. I don't know how you do it with the Bears. You check out a lot, but you see a team, you're like training camp.

[Ken]

I'm out, right? I see a future.

[Brett]

I know what you're up to. There's a plan in place. This is a disaster.

[David]

This year's different though, Brett.

[Ken]

That's what they say every year, but it's like being a Cubs fan for 100 years. Same thing.

[Brett]

Oh, yeah?

[Ken]

Yeah. This is. This. This could be it.

[Brett]

No, we knew the one when we started having this could be the year.

[Ken]

Well, then you got. Then you got real nervous. What's his name? Bartman? Screamer.

[Brett]

Well, come on. Why'd you hit me there?

[Ken]

Oh, I'm just saying. That's when you thought it was going to happen.

[Brett]

Let's get back to ripping. Let's. Let's get back to ripping on Toledo's kid. I didn't need Bartman to make an appearance this morning. Says Wait a second. Toledo said he's spending all his time stand there in Tucson with dudes. Now he wants to backpack with dudes. Oh, he's coming back with a boyfriend and hep C. Sup, Hep C is the theme today. David makes an interesting point. Vasquez is the one who sees it so clearly. Said, what if when Toledo's kid's girlfriend gets left behind when he goes back to school for fashion, and that chick is going to end up having a nightmare try to climb in Toledo's bed with him while she's living there. Like that lady from yesterday's. What, with Brady. That's right. That's what Toledo's future holds right now. He's going to house the pregnant girl that his son brought with and his son's going to run off to la. That girl's going to still live with Toledo. And the next thing you know, like yesterday's what would Brady do? She's going to have a bad nightmare and climb in bed with Richard. And the next thing you know, he's banging his son's pregnant girlfriend. I can only pray for that to actually occur once your wife wake up. She sleeps so sound.

[Ken]

What are you doing?

[Brett]

What are you. What? Oh, I can't wait. So anyway, also, people need to. If you're a fan of the Saints, maybe stop it. I don't know if you guys are seeing what's going on there, but it's all leaking out to Leonardo. Looking into it yesterday, I read more. Evidently the Saints, the New Orleans Saints helped the archbishop of New Orleans cover up a bunch of sex with kids. Like the, like, they were asked, can you help us with some PR and some work and like, oh, absolutely. We'll help you with that. What are you doing? We were raping a bunch of kids. Yeah, absolutely. Step in my office, we'll help you with that. We're the Saints. So I don't know how this isn't a bigger deal because it evidently has been going on for years. Years.

[David]

That's what I was saying recently.

[Brett]

Well, a bunch of emails have just recently come out that said. And they've been denying having anything to do with. And these emails came out and said, no, like, you guys helped them, like, a lot. And you know who else helped the New Orleans Pelicans. The. The archdiocese. The archbishop went over to the owners of two of the, you know, the franchises in town and said, hey, you guys mind help some pr Help getting out of this pickle a little bit? And they're like, yeah, sure. What do you need some money, some PR stuff. Help us out. We've been burying it in some children.

[David]

That this wasn't happening.

[Brett]

Yeah, you can say that all you want, but when the church comes over and says, we need you to help bury this child rape thing we got going on, they're like, absolutely.

[Ken]

Father Dale can cruise over and be the commissioner of the league now.

[Brett]

I mean, this is very quiet, but it should be super loud that a sports franchise is doing what they're being accused of. Like, what? They're not even accused. Like, the emails are saying, yeah, no, they knew all about this and sat back. I know. If Brett came to me and said, hey, I need a hand, I'm like, what do you need, buddy? What do you got? Got this child rape thing lingering over me. I'd love to if you could back me for. No, I'm pretty much out on that immediately. The child rape was the phrase that pays there. I'm not gonna help with that. I'm not helping anybody. When they say, can we just wait.

[David]

Until after the Super Bowl.

[Brett]

Yeah. Can we get through this?

[David]

We're in playoffs right now.

[Brett]

Because they made Daniel Snyder essentially sell the Washington Commanders because of a couple of emails about cheerleaders being naked.

[David]

And Grude.

[Brett]

Yeah, And Gruden lost his job forever for saying that a guy with big lips has big lips, essentially. That's why he's out now. It wasn't the most favorable thing, but he didn't like the guy. Did he have big lips? Yes. Are you allowed to say it the way he did? No. So both things can be true at once. So Gruden will never work again in the NFL. The Saints, that guy can still have at the team when he helped the local Catholic church cover up some child rape.

[Ken]

No.

[David]

Only the church can get away with that, right?

[Brett]

I'm good, right? Yeah. I'm not even. I'm done with them. They're. They're the ones that keep going. We didn't mean it. It Keep acting like it didn't happen. You know, they didn't even change the uniforms. A decent franchise changes the uniforms after they get caught raping kids. You don't come out in the dress again.

[Ken]

The church didn't.

[Brett]

Yeah, that's what I'm saying.

[Ken]

Still use the same uniforms.

[Brett]

That's what I'm talking about.

[Ken]

I mean, this is ridiculous.

[Brett]

The dudes in dresses still show up in the same dresses. Like, well, this is tradition. Like.

[David]

Yeah, but there's something they could learn from the NFL and college teams. Jerseys.

[Brett]

You change, you Change up, Call Alex and get some fashion advice. Because right now the hats and the dresses remind us of something else.

[Ken]

He needs a job.

[Brett]

I always say that. Even Papa John got rid of the apostrophe. They changed something. And all he did was say the N word once. So the Saints thing's weird and it's quiet. You gotta search for this story. This should be sort of blockbustery, if you ask me.

[David]

We'll say look into it.

[Brett]

Well, yeah, look into it. And you'll be like, oh, it's not people. People poo, poo. Because the way it is, it's like, oh, they didn't know. It's like, no, the email said, we're gonna say we didn't know about this if it happens. Like, they knew something terrible was going on. It ain't good. But it's the world we live in. A lot of money in that church and they seem to push their way around. But, man, to get the Saints and the Pelicans both involved again, it would take me an awful. Ah. Again. Don't know that I have that kind of love. My dad could come to me and go, I got this child rape thing hanging over me. I'm gonna need your help.

[Ken]

Peace out.

[Brett]

No, what do you need me to do? Take you to the prison myself? Or like, you need a ride to jail, right? That's what you're asking for. No, no, no. I need you to cover it up with me.

[David]

No, you can go back to. I mean, it's been happening.

[Brett]

Oh, it's that stuff. It's the tradition of the church. But get to get the NFL involved and they say yes. I don't understand it. So keep your eyes open on that one. I have a feeling that one's gonna be a thing. If it isn't, it's shocking because then it does scream that there's too much power in both of those organizations to sit and go. Yeah, yeah, it leaked out. We contained it. It's good. It's like, you know, if here's two.

[David]

People to sacrifice, right? Yeah, there'll be a couple people involved, probably.

[Brett]

John Gruden will get fired again for another email in this mix. But, yeah, strange. We got the hot releases coming up in just a little bit. It's 98, Arizona's most powerful rock radio station. He said fully erect.

[Ken]

98.