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You're listening to the HMS Podcast, brought to you by MMP guns.com your most trusted online marketplace for firearms, ammunition and accessories. Still streaming Homberg's morning sickness online@98kupd.com before we get to this entertainment drill, I want to let you know we've got our super bowl party. And I don't. I don't even know. I don't care if we're allowed to say it or not, it's a Super Bowl. But we're going to watch the super bowl at Copper Blues downtown on Sunday, 4 o'. Clock. And we have got this thing loaded up and now it has extra meaning because it's for the Humane Society. And I've got, you know, Frankie on my brain. My little guy passed away last night. So now we have the Super Sunday for Frankie at Copper Blues and all the rest of the dogs that we've all lost in our past. Frankie is now headlining because he's the most recent of dogs who gave and gave and gave to us. And now let's do a tribute to all the dogs that need a life like Frankie had. And we can help out. The Humane Society is going to be the beneficiary of this. You come down, you donate, come watch the game with us. We're going to give away all sorts of stuff. And the arcade system for from Prestige billiards, gift cards from Mo Money Pawn and MMP Guns 150, a snowboard from Action Ride Shop. Capita. That's awesome. Mattresses from my folks over at Boring Mattress. $300 carpet cleaning from Zero Res 100 Gift Basket from Raising Cane's Chicken Fingers. $200 gift card to crazy girls, cabarets and. And cash in the form of gift cards. So we're gonna have thousands of dollars to give away and it's all gonna support the Arizona Humane side. If you guys come down, not gonna ask you. There's no cover charge. You just drop money in and donate. Let's see if we can raise a bunch of money in honor of my loss this week. A Frankie loss. It's almost like an Italian thing at the funeral. And they give you an envelope. Put this to. That's what I'm asking. Frankie gets his envelope. This is Frankie's funeral. And all the proceeds are gonna go over to the Humane Society, which I absolutely love working with them. Super Sunday at Copper Blues. Head on over there. Doors open at 2. We'll get there around 4. Game starts at 4:30. We'll watch the whole thing. We'll give everybody stuff, have A good time, hope for a good game and tease Toledo if they lose. That's the good thing. John, can you throw in a free cleaning from Rodney if. Yeah. Frady, can we get Rodney? Somebody pay for him? Well, you know what we can do? We'll just put him up on the stage and people can bid.
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No, he's mine.
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Tony Hawk wanted to clear some things out. Some misinformation, some clean. Clear some things up. Basically, he wanted. There's a rumor me that he married one of his Wives on Epstein's Island.
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Okay.
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And he said, I.
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He.
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He was married four times.
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Okay.
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Like, never once did I meet Jeffrey Epstein. And it wasn't on his island. Because all these emails. You know, the 3 million email exchange, by the way.
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Yeah.
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Joe Bogan is mentioned.
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And is that somebody?
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Kirby? Yesterday, one of her.
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She's searching it.
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Classmates said, hey, one of your relatives has mentioned the Epstein things. So it's Joseph Bogan.
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Who's that?
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Same spelling. Who is like, are we related? Guys from Cincinnati, Ohio. I text my brother yesterday. I'm like, are we related to a Joe Bogan? So my brother pulls up a family tree.
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Yeah. Nothing.
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And there's one side of the Bogan family. A cousin that. I think it's Royal Edward Bogan. Had a son named Joseph Bogan.
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Royal Edward Bogan is not within the last generation to go to Epstein Island.
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No, it was. It would have been.
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What was his maid's name? Oh, he had himself a Rodney. Royal Edward Bogan is not like the father of the guy who went to Epstein Island. You guys went too deep.
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Because Royal Edward was 1800s. 1882.
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Why even search past the 60s?
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Well, he had two sons who had a daughter and a son.
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Where's this going, Brett?
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I don't know.
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You were lost. The plane is landing somewhere. Malaysia, just like the Malaysian. Why did you search the 1800s to see if this guy's been to Epstein Island?
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Well, because any Bogans have Joe Bogan as a son.
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Why did you go back so far? Well, and if it's a sun. Brady, the sun's 120.
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James Bogan, we don't know. The kids that he had, they're from Cincinnati on that side.
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You're telling us things that don't happen. You know you're doing that. No, it's James Bogan. We don't know if he's got a Joe Bogan. We're looking for Joe Bogan here.
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He's missing some steps in the right.
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So are you. If there's no Joe Bogan, there's no story.
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Well, there could be. I don't know what you're saying.
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Well, there could be a Joe Bogan in my family.
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Could have had Joe Bogan, but he. You can't.
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You're telling us a story that drives us nuts. Because you don't know.
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That's what I'm saying. After James Bogan.
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Yes.
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Out of Cincinnati, Ohio. Because Joe Bogan, if you look him up, was a professor at.
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Right. But he's not on your family tree.
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UCLA USC was also the guy, one of the creating founders of split brain surgery, which got a Nobel Peace.
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This is James Bogan.
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That's Joseph Bogan.
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Where'd Royal come from? Where's who? All I'm asking is why did you go to the 18?
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We don't know, because my brother has a tree that goes all Joe's not on there. It stops at James Bogan in Cincinnati. And it doesn't say what his kids had, which would be right around that time that Joe Bogan would be.
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So you're just going to place that in there just in case.
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No.
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We went back to the 1800s. Can you see where it gets hard for the follower?
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Can you see where I'm following?
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No, no, no. I have no. Like, the reason why is because it's a bit meandering.
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Joe Bogan is in Cincinnati, Ohio.
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I heard that.
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So I went back to see where our roots are from Cincinnati, Ohio, 1800s. Yeah, well, poor Porkopolis is from.
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This is again, this is too much info. We're just looking for Joe Bogan for the last 50 or 60 years. So once you couldn't find one past 1970, it was really no point in continuing. But you brought us Royal Edward Bogan.
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Well, I brought you that because I thought that's an interesting name to have that.
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He's insane and I love him for it. You need to duplicate yourself and then tell yourself there's only one. No, no. And duplicate. And then tell yourself a story and then have that guy go, wait a second. Now I see they're everywhere. We got to do a lot of math. They're fun stories. Don't get me wrong. Yeah, but in that whole story, Brady, at the end, there was no joke.
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Never had problems telling stories.
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No.
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You know, you've never tell you. No.
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You're a guy that interjects stuff. I can interrupt your stories all the time, Brady.
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No, you couldn't. I'm more. I'm. I'm going to say it out loud. I'm a bit more eloquent than you at storytelling.
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Sure you are. On the air.
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My point being. Okay, off the air, I'm a complete retard.
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You are.
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Here, listen.
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No, I am.
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No, nobody's saying you're. Understand that this was a story of a search for Joe Bogan. Yeah, there is.
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I thought it was.
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And you continued to tell us the story. All this. This got lost.
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Basically, what I'm saying is my brother stopped at He'. I don't see a Joe Bogan as far as I know. But I don't know the kids of James Bogan.
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But you went back to Royal Edward Bogan.
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Someone to go to 20.
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Fred, you're with me. You were waiting for something. I'm trying. I'm trying to follow. Didn't land.
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There might be a possibility it could be off of James Bogan.
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Sure. The name Bogan alone. We all think that. But then you said you went in the family tree. We all went, ooh, he's gonna find him. And then we went to the 1800s, and I'm like, we've gone too far. The story doesn't need this part. It got a little lost.
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Sorry. Then I went too far back.
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Well, yes, that was my. Why are we talking, like 1800?
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I didn't realize I was going too far back.
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1800S for Epstein Island. You didn't.
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I I like how you think you know what's going on.
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Well, don't get mad at us trying to figure it out. None of us know what's going on. When you tell stories, we have to ask it.
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Well, here's something. Or is this too old of a story?
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No, that's Don't Yeah.
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On Dinosaurs. Four episodes. Premieres on.
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That's where Joe Bogan used to live with the dinosaurs back in the day.
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We don't go far. Just one deeper fall. Bogan. Well, actually, you wouldn't have last name.
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Probably not. Yeah, they didn't have surnames then.
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That was the town he's from.
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Who fall. Oh, I see. Okay.
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The docu series is being narrated by Morgan Freeman.
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Mm.
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So it's pretty cool. Will be on Netflix March 6. And if Spielberg's by the creatures are look pretty amazing, I think this is kind of cool. Jelly Roll is giving his grammy to the Nashville Juvenile detention center. He spent time in.
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They're just gonna melt it down.
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They want to display it.
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You're gonna use it as a weapon.
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This guy did it. You could do it.
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Whatever. No, you can't. No, you can't. Nope, you can't.
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Every once in a while.
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Don't do that. Don't give those jackasses hopes. Those juvenile delinquents. None of them are gonna make it. Jelly Roll's an accident. He's one of none. Giving them false hope with Grammys is just gonna piss them off later when they start to fail. It's like I was told I'd be more like Jelly Roll. Let them know that they're probably going to be the lowest level blue collar plumber. You're not even allowed to touch the tools. You might be able to drive the truck. You're lost in life. You're not going to make it. If you do.
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That's a nice way to.
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It's a fact. Just, you know, it's like going into like an inner city school and going. You should all wrap. No, you can't. I'm tired of this false help.
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You should run the juvie send.
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Hey, look, somebody's got to take a look at these kids. And with little reality, their parents didn't care about them at all. So the parents screwed them up. They end up in juvenile hall. Now they think they're going to win a Grammy. Go your son. There's a Grammy sitting up there. From one guy, one did. Look, I know. That's it. That's all it did. The rest of them plumbers and drug addicts back in jail. In fact, you should just get them a second set of bars because say when we open these, you're just going to walk right into another one. Recidivism rate. They don't put. You know what?
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You're hired.
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The recidivism rate for juvenile hall is 85%. End up in a real prison and getting Grammys. They're going back to jail. Somebody needs to give them a dose of reality instead of giving them hope like that. I'm gonna be a rabbit like Jelly Roll. No, you're not. You're gonna be. You'll be a drug adder. Oh, I know that. Stat recidivism rate is for rehab. 5% success rate. 95% failure in a rehab center. Juvenile hall is an 85% second visit.
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Give up?
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Yes.
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Okay.
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Just like the parents did initially.
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Got no shot.
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None. You're done. You go to juvenile hall, you're done. You can have a life. Ain't gonna win a Grammy. Stop telling them you're gonna win Grammys. That's a problem with this goddamn generation that thinks everything they're gonna do is gonna result in an Academy Award. You're gonna be a plumber. You're gonna dig ditches. You're not gonna be a model. You can film yourself.
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Just end them. Exterminate them. Since they don't have a shot.
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You know what? Your plan isn't bad. I hadn't thought of that. But I like Brady's. Kill all kids and start over. Grammys. See kids, it's possible. Outliers at.0001%. Don't. Now if juvenile halls across the nation were littered with Grammys, you'd be like, we're all going to win a Grammy. No, you're not.
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More kids would go to juvie.
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It's the same thing of that goddamn.
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Shot of getting a Grammy.
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Teen mom on MTV. It turned into like a 25 year series. It encouraged girls to have pregnancy when they were 15 to try to get on TV. It was the opposite. You tell dumb people dumb things, they do dumber stuff. Jelly Roll won a Grammy. What's stopping you? I don't know. A horrible drug addict problem. And I like to steal. Well, that's not gonna win a Grammy. That way you're not gonna win a Grammy at all. Hey, juvenile hall, if you're listening. Prediction. Zero Grammys. Not a one of you is gonna win a Grammy. And then you know what I would do? Because that's the guy they need to hear from? Is have one of those kids in the back. Well, show him. I'm gonna go win me a Grammy. And then they might. But if you put a Grammy up there, they think, oh, okay, that's my path. Idiots. Spend the rest of your life.
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Take it back. It wasn't a cool thing.
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Terribly uncool thing. Jelly Roll was cool, but it's rubbing it in their face. I'm the best juvie hall graduate is basically what he did.
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Top that.
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Yeah, top that, bitches. You know that. You know what all you in juvenile hall need to do when you get out? Make up with your dad. Find your dad. Make up with him and start a normal life and then go do your. Then to go do your menial tasks. It's like dusting up the corners of freeways and holding the tools for a real guy. Two from the hall. Grammys. Knock it off.
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Well, this podcast is gonna.
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There they are.
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Last maybe less than a year. I'm announcing that right now. Brett, our podcast. Sorry. You better start finding the job. Skid Row has launched a worldwide search for a new singer.
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Oh, here we go.
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So long, John. Send your audition.
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Gonna go be with Skid Row for a while here.
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You're gonna tour for a couple of years.
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Yeah, that sounds great. To hang out with Dave. Snake Sable.
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Submissions are open February 5th, which was yesterday, right?
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Yeah.
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And there's no deadline, but you got to put a tape together and a video and send it to skid Row.
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Guys just need to hang it up at this point. I agree. How much can they be making? They don't have a singer. No. They haven't had a album since 92. Maybe playing the Rebel Lounge type, you know, you're not making any money. No traveling to that. If it's two grand at official Skid.
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Row on Instagram, at Skid Row, on YouTube, at Skid Row official on TikTok.
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Good luck. By the way, Toledo printed up the stats. Rearrest rates in juvenile hall within two years of leaving the facility, 70 to 80% within two years.
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It's gotten better.
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No, I said total. I didn't even put a. Within a reconviction. Within 36 months is 41 to 62% of a reconviction. Not just going back, but like. Yeah, the one thing that does help them, if they go through Teen Court, which is cute. Lower recidivism rates get around 11% if they go through programs. Yeah, you're not. Bottom line, you're not winning a Grammy. You're gonna go back to jail. Oh, you'll be singing. Usually it'd be bent over while some guy's behind you.
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If they find the right house in Gilbert.
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Yeah, that's right. You're gonna end up. You're gonna end up cleaning Brady's house. Maybe it's gonna rush to go check juvenile hall.
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Yeah.
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Go to juvie hall. There's a bunch of Grammy nominees in there.
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That should be a good music venue. Garbage performing at juvie hall.
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It's just such a dumb thing to do to tell people you can do anything. No, you can't. Most of you in juvenile hall have already. You've already stopped that. Well, Johnny Cash said Folsom Prison, so, yeah, John Rogan, dude, Juvie Folsom Prison. And played for him. Then he got juvenile. Exactly. Juvenile hall. You're a mess already. I'll get emails from. I went to juvenile hall and I'm fine. I know you can live a life. You don't have any Grammys. If you went to juvenile hall and you've got Grammys, send me a picture of you and your Grammys and prove me wrong. Unless you're Jelly Roll, it's not a thing.
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1.
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It's like Michael Jordan going, anybody can be me. No. No.
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I don't think he's ever said that.
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If you went to a Jew Jewish school and said, you guys can all be as good at basketball as me, we'd be like, stop it. What are you doing? It's not happening. You go to juvenile hall and say you're all capable. No, you're not. Most of you aren't. That's what you got to tell them. Most of you aren't. Be like me. Be the one that isn't. You can all win a Grammy. More than likely, you'll be. You'll be hearing this. Oh, come on in. You can clean over here first and then you can get into the bathrooms.
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I don't think it's the point about you can all win a Grammy. I don't think they sell that, but they. The point is that. Look what this guy did. He was in juvie. He's rubbing something out of himself.
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He's rubbing it in. He's rubbing it in. I don't. I disagree. That's him patting himself on the back.
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Sure, he wants to feel good about it.
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Look at me. And if I can inspire just one stop, then go in there and have, like, a singing contest and give him your Grammy, the winner. That's not a bad idea. Yeah, see, that would be better. At least you can prove they're all losers. If your kids in juvenile hall, it's your fault. By the way, I don't even know the squares are coming up. We're so late. It's going to be 10:30 by the time we get out here. We'll get through the intros because we'll do some intros, all right? We'll get some in, get the squares going and maybe give you some prizes. It's 98. There goes your entertainment drink. Arizona's most powerful rock radio station. He said fully erect.
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98.
This episode of Holmberg’s Morning Sickness focuses on the typical irreverent entertainment news banter, but is dominated by two main storylines: Brady’s comically convoluted attempt to explain a distant relative’s (possible) connection to the Jeffrey Epstein files, and John Holmberg’s spirited takedown of Jelly Roll’s donation of his Grammy to a juvenile detention center. The hosts riff on the absurdities of pop culture, family trees, and the realities (and myths) of redemption for troubled youth.
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This episode is classic Holmberg’s Morning Sickness—irreverent, fast-moving, full of friendly mockery and satirical jabs. The hosts digress into absurdities, punctuate with hard truths, and debate the efficacy of inspiration for troubled youth, encapsulating the show's blend of crude humor and unexpectedly sharp social commentary.
For those who missed it: expect chaotic family-tree stories, brutal realities for juvie kids, and signature Phoenix morning radio cynicism—with plenty of laughter all the way through.