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John Holmberg
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John Holberg
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John Holmberg
Yeah, I hit my ring when I was pulling the mic over.
John Holberg
Pinky ring incident.
John Holmberg
Well, we end up surprised.
John Holberg
It doesn't happens. How you doing?
Dick Toledo
I'll do that.
John Holberg
Yeah. Put in there and add some more to our theme song.
Dick Toledo
Yep, I can do that.
John Holberg
I like that. Evidently people have seen the clip of Nicole Curtis from rehab.
Dick Toledo
I know.
John Holberg
I don't know, but somebody said she actually used. She said fart and then the. The N bomb and. Yeah, that's the thing. The apology is where the wheels came off. That's not in my vocabulary. If in fact she said fart, it's in. Not only is it in your vocabulary, you've made it a playful game for yourself. To make it silly. What you say is. Oh, boy. It just fell out of my mouth. I was Mad and I yelled something and I Tourette's myself. And I am an idiot. But yes, I do occasionally say terrible things. People would be like, all right, well, there's no fighting somebody. But you say.
John Holmberg
I always say terrible things.
John Holberg
But, you know, same. That is not in my vocabulary. James Vanderbeek passed away yesterday. Everybody was the Dawson's Creek guy in Varsity Blues. The world famous forever and ever whipped cream bikini scene from Varsity Blues. And Vanderbeek was seemingly one of those dudes just as nice as can be. Doesn't it? Didn't he seem like. I didn't like Dawson's Creek? I didn't care.
Dick Toledo
I didn't like Varsity Blues. Other than the whipped cream bikini, not a great movie.
John Holberg
But, you know, we can be heroes, be entertaining. Yeah, it was good. It was fine. And he was. That. He was one of those dudes that's not gonna. He's not an Academy Award winner by any stretch. He's not gonna be one of those guys that's gonna change your world. But every time you saw him, Van Der Beek seemed like just a good dude.
Dick Toledo
Was.
John Holmberg
There was no reason to hate on him or anything like that. He was just there.
John Holberg
Vanilla man.
John Holmberg
Right. Exactly.
John Holberg
And then he gets the prostate cancer and it gets him. And that's a shame. It's.
John Holmberg
Did he catch it late?
John Holberg
I don't know. There. There's. Well, no. Everybody keeps saying, like, oh, he's a perfect example of why men need to get checked. And you do. I'm not going to until they, you know. And evidently, there's no more fingering. My, My, my, my beef with that. So.
John Holmberg
You back in?
John Holberg
Well, do it. If there's no fingering again. MRIs, ultrasounds, nobody has to get fingered for anything. And it's just some power play doctors are keeping over us to, you know, to puppeteer us for a second. Just. I've checked out my own prostate on the reg. It's fine. Look, if anybody's gonna notice a difference, it's gonna be me. I go to a doctor, first time he's feeling it, I can tell him all the subtle nuances and nooks and crannies of that thing. I know exactly where the almond is, and I keep an eye on changes.
John Holmberg
Just don't Nicole Curtis it.
John Holberg
Yeah, well, yeah, you don't want to start dropping that bomb while you're giving yourself a prostate exam.
John Holmberg
Doctor.
John Holberg
You. I look at it the same as. Oh, yeah, no, there's a chance that N word will come out if a doctor goes in Dry. You try to. That. I. I'm allowed that. Pass.
Dick Toledo
High likelihood.
John Holberg
I'm. I don't care even what the doctor looks like. If you go in my ass dry, there's a chance that gonna fly out of my mouth.
Dick Toledo
I can be on board with that.
John Holberg
Yeah. If you try finger me. And then Dr. Like, hey, hey, hey, hey. You don't have to do this. In fact, I can probably pretty accurately, with a blindfold on, draw my prostate. Oh, yeah, I know where it is. I wash it. It's not even for pleasure. Get up there and I scrub it. I treat that thing like, you know, the way Brett would if he had, like, a gto. He'd have mirrors under just to show you how clean the bottom part is. So I don't need any doctor telling me what's wrong with it. I'll be like, what do you know? That's your first time. I know what's going on in there, but you should go get checked. But they say that you don't have to get fingered anymore. What I'm confused about is James Vanderbeek's family asked for a GoFundMe, and it's over a million dollars now. And I'm like, he lives on a.
Dick Toledo
Ranch and has six kids.
John Holberg
Yeah. Even if he ran into a little financial trouble from this, this didn't cost $1 million.
Dick Toledo
No. He was an advocate for it. You'd think that they were giving him some kind of spokesman privileges.
John Holberg
I mean, $1 million and still growing. It was, actually. Right now, it's at a million three in donations from fans. It was on Dancing with the Stars. The, you know, people are dropping thousands of dollars each on his GoFundMe page. And I think that you're right. Like, he's got a ranch and all this other. The family's like, oh, it didn't cost you. I know costs for healthcare are high, but he's not a million dollars behind. What are you gonna do with that money? That doesn't make any sense. I say we take all that money and we put it towards technology to keep fingers out of our asses. At the doctor's office, Clint said, no, no, John, they're still fingering. The blood test just tells you if they need to or not. Well, then I'm not going.
Dick Toledo
That's fair. I. I just had that. The blood test.
John Holberg
Did you. And everything's kosher.
Dick Toledo
The next step is to go to my primary. And he looks at the blood and goes, no finger.
John Holberg
Oh. It says that he had colorectal cancer. Not prostate.
John Holmberg
Yeah. So then you get the tube up the ass.
John Holberg
That's a tube?
John Holmberg
Yeah, yeah. That's a camera and stuff?
John Holberg
Yeah, yeah. Have you had that done?
Dick Toledo
The tube?
John Holberg
No, they go in and they haven't done any.
Dick Toledo
Haven't had anything done.
John Holmberg
No, I haven't.
John Holberg
None of us.
John Holmberg
They keep telling me to, and I'm like, yeah, I'll get to that.
John Holberg
Yeah. Who? Michael and Troy keep telling me to.
John Holmberg
Also.
John Holberg
It's not gay. It's life saving. I'm with you if you want to do it. That's up to you. But you can't get. You can't shame people anymore for saying, I don't want to get fingers. And I also don't want to find out anything's wrong. I've said that for years. The doctor goes, oh, I don't want to hear, oh, with a finger in my ass. I just don't want to hear that. Oh, this is no good. Like, what is it?
Dick Toledo
Well, you don't want to hear the long pause.
John Holberg
No, I don't want to go back every two weeks to have him check it again. I'm just.
Dick Toledo
No.
John Holberg
Done a pretty good job my whole life keeping men's fingers out of my ass. I got one.
Dick Toledo
Oh, yeah.
John Holberg
Doctor. That got me back when I was like 21.
Dick Toledo
That's a shocking thing when you don't think about your story right away. Wait a minute. You had a.
John Holberg
No, I had a guy do it. Yeah.
John Holmberg
He was grooming you.
John Holberg
Boy, was he. And now. And after watching that Ohio State documentary, I realized he was. It was an unnecessary exam. And there I was on my side in a gown, and all I told him was, it hurts to pee. Are you sexually active? I'm like, well, I guess so. I guess you call it active. She didn't. I mean, I wasn't just laying there.
Dick Toledo
I was.
John Holberg
Oh, yeah. I did about eight attempted high fives with this guy. He didn't want one. And then he fingered me and I finished. And now I'm never going back again because that was horrifying. And by the way, I've tried to do that myself since that day. And I've never been able to accomplish what that man did, ever. I've never been able to make that.
Dick Toledo
Button for lack of trying.
John Holberg
Never hit the button right again. I think you drained it. I think he broke it and it drained it.
John Holmberg
You think?
Dick Toledo
It was a one time only thing.
John Holberg
There's like a, like scorpion venom. Once it's out, it's out.
Dick Toledo
Like those New Year's poppers.
John Holberg
Yeah, you can't pack that back up. That's it now. Oh, that's all right. That'll happen. I'm like, it will first and only time. Try to make that happen every day. Then nothing. The girl I. My girlfriend back. Tony Roma's her ex boyfriend liked that. And that's what. She would try that with me.
John Holmberg
What exams?
John Holberg
Yeah, not the exams, but like, yeah, he liked her to exam. But I've done it. But I don't need that. But Vanderbeek, it didn't cost over a million dollars for that. And I think you should. Yeah, it should go to. It should go immediately to technology to keep doctor's fingers out of us. End of story. I don't think doctors want to do it right.
Dick Toledo
Not since the PSA test has come out.
John Holberg
Yeah, doctors are like, they should be on the fast track to not doing that. Like, if I was at proctology convention, I'd be like, all right, how do we stop seeing it? Like, let's make it so it's like, a, the blood test is good. B, those ultrasounds seem about right. Rub it across my ass. You don't have to go in.
John Holmberg
Is that the one where you crap in a box or something beforehand?
John Holberg
No, that's. There's that, too. Okay.
Dick Toledo
Cologne.
John Holberg
Yeah.
Dick Toledo
And then you mail it. That just feels off.
John Holberg
Yeah. James says they sound worse than they are. The prep is the worst part. Drink the stuff that cleans you out a day before there's no fecal matter to block the camera. You drop like five pounds in that day. Go get scoped, boys. Maybe you could make a show out of all of you going getting a colonoscopy.
John Holmberg
Pervert.
James
James.
John Holberg
Jesus. You want us all to just take one in the ass on the air? No, they do that every day over at Katie kb. There's a place for that. I'll gladly pass it on. No, I know it's immature and I know it's stupid to not want to get the checkout, but I don't. Yeah, I just don't want to find out. It's bad. And then I'm at the doctor every Tuesday. Like, this is going to be another weird day, but I don't know can kill me. My biggest beef there is if I started to die. What's my GoFundMe raise? I wasn't on Dawson's Creek. I just have this cruddy little show. So if I ran into. All right here, I don't think I'm going to get into the millions. Maybe raise 40 or 50 grand. Right. So it all depends on your status. Like if Tom Cruise.
Dick Toledo
Local artists, you know, flood the page.
John Holberg
Yeah.
Dick Toledo
And then.
John Holberg
And then they're gonna. Then it's gonna drop. People bring it back. We have, like, school teachers and people in Queen Creek and all this other, like, dropping down. They might actually end up owing them money after my. I try to get some money for my healthcare. I just don't know why that's a deal anyway. That's a sad one, though. Cause James Vanderbeek seemed to be a. A nice man. And, I don't know, you don't like to say 47. That's a tough one. We've had that guy, the guy from three doors down.
John Holmberg
He was 47 as well.
Dick Toledo
So is that.
John Holmberg
That's the two.
John Holberg
Well, that's two.
John Holmberg
Is there another one?
John Holberg
Well, you're looking for a third.
John Holmberg
No, not necessarily that. The stars and the threes.
John Holberg
We'll go with those two right now. But that's a tough one. And then you start getting to the age where people younger than you are dying of, like, really serious stuff. Not accidents. Or you're like, oh, my God, I'm older than that guy. He said, john, what if we had a reasonably attractive female practitioner who would finger you? And. Well, yeah, that's a better idea. You get to choose. You know, it's like a massage therapist. When they ask, do you want a male or a female? I'm like, yeah, I like that.
Dick Toledo
If you're an attractive woman interested in medicine, is that you're not getting a proctology. Nope, That's a good point.
John Holberg
How many female proctologists are there?
Dick Toledo
I'd venture to guess less than one half.
John Holberg
I'm not even gonna throw a percentage. I think it's less than eight people total. I think there's like eight in the United States.
Dick Toledo
In the United States, maybe.
John Holberg
Yeah. I'm gonna go with eight female proctologists. That. Why would they ever want to do that?
John Holmberg
Oh, I mean, it's. Why would anybody want to do that? Male or female?
John Holberg
Yeah.
John Holmberg
Why do you want to look at a holes all day long?
John Holberg
Fascinated.
John Holmberg
Yeah, that's true.
John Holberg
You go to school and you get to pick all that. Like, podiatry would be like feet.
John Holmberg
That's another one.
John Holberg
Go to feet. I know it's gross, but it's better than buttholes. Like you. It's almost like they go to medical school and then you reach into a fishbowl. Ah, I got proctology.
John Holmberg
Plastic surgery.
John Holberg
Yeah. There.
John Holmberg
Create some nice cans every so often.
John Holberg
Don't think about the feet.
John Holmberg
You're an artist.
Dick Toledo
How about this?
John Holberg
You have to fix. Like. Talk about rehab addict.
Dick Toledo
Guys, I just turned 25. It takes 15 minutes. Please get it done. Had mine done. They removed two polyps, came back negative for cancer. You do drop a quick five, but it's pretty cool.
John Holberg
Yeah.
Dick Toledo
Talking about the colonoscopy, that is. I didn't get the finger, just the camera. That's how I found mine.
John Holberg
Mine's good. I'm in there a lot digging around.
Dick Toledo
I don't know if you're in there up high enough.
John Holberg
Sure I am, man.
John Holmberg
You better break out the Nikon.
Dick Toledo
You do have long.
John Holberg
We're in there.
Dick Toledo
No, we got that thing the. Didn't we get the thing with.
John Holberg
Oh, yeah, I got that thing for. It is for your butt, too. Well, no, it isn't.
John Holmberg
It was your wax, wasn't it?
Dick Toledo
No, no, no. That one is on the pen. The one we had has like a snake.
John Holberg
It's got a snake. Was it for butts? I think.
Dick Toledo
I think it could be.
John Holberg
Well, I'll do it myself.
Dick Toledo
There you go again.
John Holberg
I'll DIY this project.
Dick Toledo
And then you got Facebook Live that for everybody, then with AI.
John Holberg
Ask AI. How's this camera analyze these.
Dick Toledo
These photos for polyps?
John Holberg
I mean, is it like Asian haircuts? Do all.
Dick Toledo
Excuse me.
John Holberg
Yeah, do all colons and prostates look alike?
John Holmberg
Yeah, they all got the Chinaman.
John Holberg
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Dick Toledo
Anyway, guys, you're forgetting Catherine O' Hara was a third.
John Holberg
Oh, there's one.
Dick Toledo
Colorectal cancer.
John Holberg
Oh, she had that and died of, like, a lung. Like, an aneurysm in her lung. It blew up. That's what got her. But she had the cancer, too. Anyway, but she's not getting a GoFundMe. Like, why do people think, James, the family comes out and says, we can't afford this. I'm like, all right, Well, I hate to be a.
Dick Toledo
Did the family do that?
John Holberg
Yeah, but just sell the house, Sell the ranch? Yeah.
Dick Toledo
They live on a ranch.
John Holberg
And I know that. Well, we can't disrupt the kids. Like, well, you can't afford. Like, this is not a normal thing.
Dick Toledo
Because it's a parcel of the ranch.
John Holberg
If I have that, I can't afford to pay my medical bills. I gotta sell my house. Like, nobody's gonna say, oh, just keep it. Like, Dawson's Creek and Dawson's Creek to be a dick. Wasn't that good? That's not good enough to part with your money to. You might need that money for your rectum someday. Am I wrong?
Dick Toledo
No, you're 100% right.
John Holmberg
His residuals weren't good for his rectum.
John Holberg
Yeah. I mean, yeah. Anybody else on the planet has a family member pass away and you start to go fund me, it's not going to get to a million, too. If you've got a branch of acreage and animals and, like, you sell the ranch.
Dick Toledo
Varsity Blues is still playing. And.
Progressive Insurance Announcer
Yeah, he gets.
John Holberg
He's. You know, he's not. He was on Dancing with the Stars. And I know medical bills get up there, but, I mean, come on. This one says, last time I got checked, because the blood test PSA was high, the proctologist was female, and she said, are you cool with me doing this, or would you rather have a man? And I said, you. You've got small girl fingers. Smart move, Donovan. I would rather take those tiny little fingers all day.
Dick Toledo
Yes. And textures, like, three in a row are like dudes. It's a routine part of the colonoscopy of the finger. No, we understand that.
John Holberg
No, that's what I'm saying.
Dick Toledo
We're opting out.
John Holberg
I don't want that.
Dick Toledo
Just give me the camera. I'll do. I might accept the camera over a finger. Yeah.
John Holberg
No, it's pencil. Yeah. No, they knock you out for a reason.
Dick Toledo
Wait a minute. They Knock you out to do.
John Holberg
Oh, yeah.
John Holmberg
Oh, yeah.
Dick Toledo
I didn't know that.
John Holberg
Yeah. Yeah.
Dick Toledo
Well, why do they knock you?
John Holberg
Do some research and keep you away for a reason. Otherwise you just sound silly. Because it's because you got a camera up your ass.
Dick Toledo
I don't want anybody fishing around in my butt while I'm out.
John Holberg
That's exactly right. This is a game the doctors are playing.
John Holmberg
Yeah, but if you're gonna do it, you might as well be out. You just. Out of sight, out of mind.
Dick Toledo
I guess you don't want an accident like what John had, you see, with.
John Holberg
The people in the sleep and in the buttholes.
John Holmberg
Out of sight, out of mind.
John Holberg
At that point, Dr. Huxtable has be that. This one says, I'm guessing you didn't have life insurance. Okay, fine. But I mean, tons of people don't. I don't know. This one says, drop your pride and get the tube. It's easy, it's painless, it'll save your life.
Dick Toledo
Now Toledo, get it done. You're in and out in 30 minutes. It's not. Wait, if they knock you out and you're out in 30 minutes.
John Holberg
I'm not. It's people. People misunderstand that. I'm not. I'm not afraid of the thing in my ass. I'm afraid of them finding something.
Dick Toledo
And this also isn't a selling point. And the nurses are usually hot.
John Holberg
Yeah, this one's a medical. She's an oncologist. You got to have the cancer to get to her. I'm not interested in those people. People send me pictures of their doctors who are pretty. Pretty fingers. Not interested in that. So, yeah, it's sad and do your thing, but I just don't want to look. I'm one of those weirdos that's not afraid of dying. I don't want to suffer, but I don't want to go to the doctor and find things. Like, I'm not searching. I'm fine until it hurts. I'm not going into. If I feel great and come out of there. And like, oh, you got all sorts of problems. I feel terrible, and so I don't want to know.
Dick Toledo
I don't want to go like Dave Nash on this, but I do kind of prescribe to that. Like, if you go to the doctor, they're finding something they want to.
John Holberg
You're asking them to, right?
Dick Toledo
You're asking them to do their job.
John Holberg
See, in a month or so. Yeah. Why? Well, I'm not done. Right.
John Holmberg
The Toledo, the camera, seven inches long. Do you really want to be awake for that.
Dick Toledo
Seven inches.
John Holberg
Seven inches. It's a lot of camera.
Dick Toledo
All right, knock me out.
John Holberg
I'll take them. I'll take. Well, yeah, it's, that's, it's. I like the Toledo, which is longer than this. Yeah, he went to his. He went to his hand. Yeah, Your phone's about 7 inches.
Dick Toledo
That's not 7. That's like 5.
John Holberg
That's about 7. Let me see yours. I know exactly how long mine is. Oh, we have the same one. Okay, there's six. It's. It's almost six full inches. Yeah, if you stick out an inch, another inch.
John Holmberg
Okay.
John Holberg
I use this to measure me to make sure I'm still. Use your phone to measure me. I'm going to send you parakeet accident. There's another story that I also laugh at. Again, I'm in this mode where nothing. I'm blinded by the idea that nothing makes sense. There's a family in Illinois that just made it into the Guinness Book of World Records because they're liars. Oh, seven o' clock word, by the way, is distortion. Distortion is the word for seven. And you could do this at home. If you've got a. If you've got a parakeet or a minor bird or a cockatiel or something like that, call Guinness and say, I have the oldest cockatiel in the world. And they're like, oh yeah, how old? I don't know what's the oldest one currently on record? It's like 32. Mine's 33. These people say, I've got a 32 year old. Almost 33 year old cockatiel. Yeah.
Dick Toledo
What are they, carbon dating?
John Holberg
Who has a birth certificate and who like you. Okay, I've got some pictures. What do you just. You teach your cocktail the cockatiel to say stuff like, oh, J did it or Lewinsky, like, see, he's been around since the 90s. And the 33 year old bird, and it's the oldest one they say it was, he moved in with the family in 1993.
John Holmberg
He moved in, right?
John Holberg
Yeah, he just stayed at his bags and he knocked on the door. Hello, my baby, hello, my honey hey. This brand new bird. And they didn't know how old it was when they got it. And it didn't live with them in 19. Somebody replaced it. Here's the thing I think happened with the 33 year old cockatiel. Somewhere along the lines, dad and mom found the bird dead. And I'm guessing that was somewhere around 2009. And the kids couldn't handle it if the cockatiel wasn't there. So they went and bought another one and they replaced it.
Dick Toledo
Classic parenting strategy.
John Holberg
They don't have the heart to tell the family that they pulled a fast one. So now the kids called Guinness and the kids are probably 30 now that cockatiel's been around since I was 4. Like uh huh, yep, same cockatiel, no question there. And then they called Guinness and said the kids did it. Now the parents are in there. No 33 year old caged cockatiel living with some and evidently it got mush mouth and can't do anything anymore. Oh gee, did it turn it to friends, I hate Frasier. Teach it those phrases and then call Guinness and go, this thing's 40. Sam Malone's hilarious Thursdays at 8. Cheers. Like, oh, it's just copying what it heard on tv. But when I was a kid, turn on Matlock.
John Holmberg
You want to be real old.
John Holberg
The Rockford file starts at seven like this. It's an 80 year old bird. Just teach it crazy stuff and then there's nobody, nobody's going to ever question it. You're not going to get some carbon date analyst to come out and do a thing on your dying cockatiel. And by the way, you got a cockatiel that is 30, you start poking around, you don't wait to go 30. So they just made it up.
Dick Toledo
What do you mean poking around?
John Holberg
Look, I gotta, I'm telling you, like if right now I'm like, hey, that cockatiel of mine is 30, you gotta suppose that's the record, right? And then you go and find out, no, it's 32. I'm like, let's lie, no one's gonna know. And then the Guinness book people come and I think it's like 12 or 1300 bucks from Guinness if you're getting the book. So if you've got a bird right now that's kind of a little ragged, a little rough around the edges, you know, and it can't got the bird Alzheimer's or whatever it's got, Call up Guinness, make up a look up what kind of bird you have, find out exactly what the oldest one is and trumpet before you know it. Like 5 years would be like 200 year old cockatiel lives at somebody's house.
John Holmberg
Or get a life.
John Holberg
I don't buy into this. Well yeah, you can get a life.
John Holmberg
If you gotta call Guinness because your cockatiel is the oldest one, what are you getting out of it?
John Holberg
A plaque you get a plaque and some money. They pay a little.
John Holmberg
What are they paying?
John Holberg
I was like 1200 bucks. I think they give you. I know, I know. Look, I do. I think they give. I think they give you a nice chunk. Yeah. And you look like a jerk off.
Dick Toledo
What happens if somebody beats you? A record? You have to give the money back.
John Holberg
No, I think you get it because you held it for a time. The, the cockatiel that it whistled the theme to the Bridge over the River Kwai and Andy Griffith. But don't parrots live to be like 70? You have to will those things to people.
Dick Toledo
Yeah, well, the parrot I had, the.
John Holberg
Cursing parrot, the Nicole Curtis parrot, somewhere in Mesa.
Dick Toledo
Nico is still out there.
John Holberg
He's out there. Yeah. But anyway, it's unethical.
John Holmberg
It says they don't pay.
John Holberg
They don't pay.
John Holmberg
Guinness World Records does not pay money to record holders or for breaking or setting records.
John Holberg
Well, then you're right.
John Holmberg
Exactly. What a waste of time.
John Holberg
Now you're just. Now it's just an ego thing. By the way, I, I do this so you don't have to. I did a deep dive of the most amazing thing I've ever seen on the heels of Pavlov's dogs. You know that where they just, they associated feeding with a bell. And then every time. And then they took the food away. But every time the bell rang, the dogs would start to like and drool. They're like, oh. It caused the bell became representative of food at that same. This is when, you know, everybody that says, kids are having it tough nowadays and it's harder to be. I've said it, I'll say it every day that I'm alive. It is easier to be alive today than it has ever been ever. No question. Especially for your kids. Your kids have got it. Every generation has it easier than the last one. And that's called technology. And generationally we look at it as, oh my God, it's so difficult because we don't understand it. But they're fine. And here's how I know it. After, like, this was probably the most amazing thing that was ever volunteered for after the Pavlov's dog thing, where they're like, well, we can make dogs associate sounds with other things and have their bodies actually react to those sounds. They're like, what about a baby? And they, they kept a baby for nine months, a nine month old baby. They kept him in conditions where they would just. They all they tried to do every single minute of every day was make him afraid of Animals. He's an infant. He's nine months old. So he sat in this cage, like. Like a baby that was going to be adopted. Like, who cares about this one?
Dick Toledo
What country did this?
John Holberg
United States of America. And so they would say, oh, they wanted to see if they could condition the infant to be afraid of certain animals. And they'd show the baby various things like a rabbit, a monkey, a white rat, and then burning newspapers or something like, you know. And so when the rat was shown, they played a super loud noise. And Little Albert was his name. And the tale of Little Albert is amazing. And they said he would associate the white rat with that sound. And then eventually they could just show him the white rat, and then he'd react to the gong noise without it actually going off. Like he. And so then after a while, they. They started to introduce real rats to Little Albert's cage. This is a person. And they shoved it in there. And then he'd be like. He'd just be waiting for that noise. And then he was just terrified of white rats. And it was. They managed to make him cry every day, multiple times a day, with scary sounds or images that made him hate animals. So they got the white rat, like, that's it. Every time we play that gong, he starts looking for a rat. And he's like, of course. So they recorded another session where they had. The rat would like, if even saw, like, a hint of the rat. He'd start to whimper a little, just waiting for that horrible sound. Your kids are so. It's so easy for them. Then he was subjected to five instances of the scary noises and the rat. And when they showed the little boy the rat again, he just lost it, started pissing himself, rolled over into the corner.
John Holmberg
Crazy lab is.
John Holberg
Yeah, this is. Then a month later, they bring him back from the orphanage, and Little Albert's there, and we're not done with you yet. And then they started to show him scary stuff again. And they'd shoot the rat across because it's been a month since they'd done it. And he's like, no, he's still scared of the rat. Good job, everybody. And then he had a mother, and then she took him out of the hospital. So there were no more deconda. They promised the families, like, look, we're gonna do this, and then we're gonna reverse it.
John Holmberg
And get dinner at Rodigio Steakhouse or something for all.
John Holberg
Exactly. Little Albert was. It was taken away by his mom. Like, you're not doing this anymore. It was Appalachian State University. And they had another kid. They just got some nurse. It's like, well, you're a single mom here in the 1930s. We're going to take your baby. It's a waste of time. It doesn't have a father. And then they would start to do that with, with stuff. They would have, like, they blind him with things and stuff like that. Your kids have it so easy. Visit Homeburg's morning sickness online@98kupd.com it's John Holmer here from the morning sickness and it's time to talk about Doug Hopkins of my home group and Doug hopkins.com let's talk about the people who make claims. For instance, a company out there saying they'll get you 100% of market value for your home. And a lot of times Mr. 100% getting that inspection and says, oh, 100% just dropped because you've got a few more problems. Don't play around with these people. Trust me when I say you can trust TV's Doug Hopkins. He won't play with the offer at all. If he does, he'll give you $5,000 guaranteed. You can start process@doug hopkins.com or grab that phone and sing.
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John Holberg
Holmberg's morning sickness. Google search. Little Albert. Poor little Albert. The baby experiment. James Vanderbeek's getting a million two for not having. Not being able to sell his ranch. Where's the money for little Albert's family?
Dick Toledo
Did I miss what? Like, how recent is this thing?
John Holberg
This was this year. Oh, no, no, no. Yeah. No, can't do it. Now. This was. I mean, the pictures look pretty early 1900s.
Dick Toledo
Okay.
John Holmberg
Oh, I thought you were talking. This is recent.
John Holberg
Oh, no, no.
Dick Toledo
Well, that was my point 10 years ago.
John Holberg
No, my point is today your kids can't even like, get close to a bike store without wearing a helmet. Little Albert was. It was totally reasonable.
Dick Toledo
It's not exactly related, but you saw those, like, people that lived in cities used to have little cages that would hang out out the side of the building. Their kids would sit in cages.
John Holmberg
The good old days.
John Holberg
That's what I'm saying.
Dick Toledo
Like a kid kennel.
John Holberg
That to me, those pictures in New York were like, the kid could sit Outside, but in a fence cage.
John Holmberg
They could close the window so you don't have to listen to the damn thing.
John Holberg
And Eric Clapton tried it, and it didn't work anymore. But that. I don't know when that stopped. Like, box it up and put it outside for a little bit. It's a nice day. And then they just. Like, loads of kids would just sit in fenced boxes. Now I see kids at the Rah Rah Room getting steak that they don't appreciate. They didn't care if they got it or not. They'd eat Cheerios off the ground. And mom and dad are spending a couple hundred bucks. It's just so hard to be a child. It is so easy right now to be a child. I'm listening to the news, and they're talking about kids in Queen Creek. And they're back on that again. It's like, oh, my God, they had a thing about today is. I don't know if it's today or somewhere in February. It's Teen Violent Dating Month or something. I forgot what they called it. But, yeah, it's like, well, you're supposed to be aware.
Dick Toledo
Violence in Dating Month.
John Holberg
Yeah. Well, no, they're dating violence. Of course it's violence dating. And so they're teens, though, and they're like, it's so hard for kids today because, you know, evidently they just beat the tar out of each other on dates. I didn't think that's a thing.
John Holmberg
It's Chris Brown Day or what, right?
John Holberg
I mean, Jesus, So easy. All the kids do is just grab iPads and doordash food to each other. That. That's a date. Hilarious.
John Holmberg
It's gonna be like Demolition man, where they put the helmets on and said, no touching.
John Holberg
Good.
John Holmberg
You know?
John Holberg
But, man, oh, man, I want to hear it about your kids anymore having a tough time with a dating situation. So hard and this. We have to really keep an eye on them. They'll harm themselves. Like, why are your kids upset that just read Little Albert to them. It needs to be a children's book. At least you're not Little Albert.
Dick Toledo
Jesus, Holmberg. I thought this was recent. I just looked it up. Thank God it was in the 20s.
John Holberg
Yeah.
Dick Toledo
Moved on.
John Holberg
It's a hundred years ago. But think about that. It was only a hundred years ago. One hundred years ago. They're like, do we have any babies? No one loves. I have one. Give it to me. I want to scare it. Like, every day for a long time. How old is it? Nine months. It's in its easiest form of brain development. Oh, we're gonna f with this thing for days. Look at him. Look at him with the rats. He thinks the gong's gonna play. And little Albert had to sit there with. And then a rat would run by, and they did it to him over and over until it was just one represented the other, and it was a mess. Even play a gong next to a kid now. I tried to give money to a teenager working, or probably early 20s person working at a QT, and I could see the neurodivergence. And I had 20 bucks in my hand, and I aimed it at her like you're supposed to. I aimed at her hands went up like I was robbing the place. Put your hands down. You're gonna get me killed.
Dick Toledo
Yeah, don't be on video.
John Holberg
I don't know what you're doing. I'm like, I'm paying for a diet Coke here. Put it down. Like, ah.
John Holmberg
Did you call Curtis or something?
Dick Toledo
No.
John Holmberg
Did she freak out so bad?
John Holberg
Cause she's. She's got autism.
Dick Toledo
She's never handled cash because she's Little Albert.
John Holberg
No, I was. I guess I was coming in hot. She's never seen anybody hand or anything, and her hands went up like. I was like, give me all the.
Dick Toledo
Money in the john. I've learned from your show that I'm not into protests. I don't think that they do anything, but when you mentioned little Albert, I was ready to put my sign together and start protesting.
John Holberg
Oh, it's just. Come on. It's just. Knock it off. Give me a nine month old. I want to scare the crap out of it. How long? I don't know. A year or so. We're going to science and. Yeah, it's a. They want to see if they condition him to become afraid of things and then associate it with other things. And then the end game was, can we make a baby afraid? Yes.
Dick Toledo
This guy says no. I think that class at Appalachian State University was part of a new degree program. How to create a serial killer.
John Holberg
Yeah, I don't know what happened to little Albert after.
Dick Toledo
That's what you need to follow up on.
John Holberg
Find him. But Mom's like, okay, of course the baby's afraid of gongs and rats. So am I, by the way. If a rat went by right now and then a Chinaman hammered a gong, my whole body would shudder. I'd probably piss. What were the. What. What did you expect? The baby just be like, what else you got?
Dick Toledo
Come on.
John Holberg
Rats don't bother me. And gongs are cool. Going Next. So the results of the study have been questioned over time. Little Albert, being nine months old and stuff, couldn't really give consent to the experiment, so they say. As for what happened to Little Albert, unclear. Subsequent researchers tried to identify. Identify him, and they found candidates. They think his name is Douglas Merritt. He was the son of a wet nurse who worked at John Hopkins University. And sadly, the boy. That kid had water on the brain. So they couldn't. They couldn't ask him any questions. They think it's also possibly Albert Barger, who lived a long, happy life and died in 2007. But I'm guessing that a Little Albert. I'm gonna go with the first Douglas one.
John Holmberg
Says he died when he was six. After all those nightmares, there's no way that he died. 2000.
John Holberg
Yeah. Again, give that a go for me. Rat runs by. I'm losing my mind. Anyway, no one likes a rat. Nobody. It's 7:17. Everybody says the app crashed. You guys might have wrecked the app. I'm not sure if that's real.
John Holmberg
There's a shocker.
John Holberg
We're working on it.
Dick Toledo
Yeah, we're working on it. The. The property or proper people have been notified.
John Holberg
Don't count on it. So distortion only works at 98kUpd. But it's not even going to work. There is a voice.
Dick Toledo
No, they're separate.
John Holberg
Oh, if you go to the website.
Dick Toledo
And put it in. Yeah.
John Holberg
Good.
John Holmberg
DJ says podcast not playing on the app right now. So I had to switch to this.
John Holberg
Thing called a radio. I don't even know what those are anymore. I hear the Bobs up north talk about that all the time.
Dick Toledo
Guess what? We're gonna hear from the Bobs at 10am Your radio numbers really spiked.
John Holberg
No, what we'll hear from the Bobs is what happened to the contest. The numbers really fell off at 7. Everything you guys did do is broken. Huh. And then they just ignore that. Well, you know, you could have just brought them over to radio. Yeah, I know. You guys making it so hard for everybody. We're 45 different things. Pick a lane. Bob's. God, these douchebags have ruined the whole thing. So sorry about that, folks. Not our fault, but evidently the app took a dump. If you do still have access to a computer and you're on the radio, distortion is the seven o' clock word.
John Holmberg
Top men have been aware of this.
John Holberg
Oh, yeah, yeah. The bigwigs are in charge of it. You know what? They do too. They stare at it and then come down here and tell us. Yeah, it's down well, we told you that. Yeah, yeah, and I agree with Kyle, who just says the app sucks. The podcast is going to hell. I agree. It's not our fault. Blame all the knobs that run this place. I just read that Little Albert changed his name to Adolf and moved to Germany. Yeah, that would be pretty reasonable. I just don't care for rats. I could scare your baby right now, scientifically, with a gong and a white rat, and for about a year. That kid's not gonna like either.
Dick Toledo
Listen to what JD Just texted in his opener. Hey, Juno's okay. One of my earliest memories was when I had my tonsils out. I was about three years old, 1966. They put me in a caged bed, waiting in the hallway for them to.
John Holberg
Knock me out because you were gonna lose your mind.
Dick Toledo
Put him in a caged bed.
John Holberg
That's pretty awesome. It's like a crib. Good crib in a cage. Better. The same thing. I. My earliest memory. My earliest memory. I broke my leg when I was two at Hook's Drugstore in Lowell, Indiana, And I remember it. And it was on a wet floor. We should have sued him, but my grandpa just kept going, you're fine. And he kept walking me around. That's my earliest memory. And to this day, if I see somebody mopping up at a drugstore, I like carpeted drugstores, like CVS and what they've got. Johnny, if I see anybody. Oh, it screws you up. And it's a. It's because I was 2.
Dick Toledo
Have we talked to our friend Jeff who ripped his kid's arm out of his socket?
John Holberg
Yeah, I don't know. I have, actually. They came to my house for a Steelers game this year, and little Nicholas is, like, 30 now, but. Oh, my God. But his. I don't know. If he tried to pick him up by his arm, he'd probably start screaming because his arm came out of. In a grocery store. Nicholas was. Was losing his mind. And Jeff grabbed his arm and yanked him. Well, he knocked him down, and then he went. And so he had, like. He ended up bumping his face. He had a bloody nose. And then Jeff grabbed his arm and pulled him up. And when he pulled him up, he didn't realize he'd ripped it out of its socket. And the kid's just. He's like, shut up. Nothing's wrong. You're just being a jerk. And he didn't realize he'd ripped his son's arm out of the socket.
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John Holberg
And so he had to take this kid with his arm ripped out of his socket and blood on his shirt. And I happened to be wearing because at the time it wasn't cool, but almost. You were wearing one of those gas station shirts with your name patch on it.
John Holmberg
Oh, my God.
John Holberg
So he just looked full white tray. Something wrong with this thing. And it's arms dangling like it's got polio and he's got blood on his shirt. And they immediately CPS the whole thing.
John Holmberg
Oh, sir, which trailer park do you live in?
John Holberg
But that's what my grandpa did when I broke my leg at the thing. We went out in the snow in the parking lot and he made me walk around in circles on a broken leg going, you're fine. Walk it off, you're fine. And my dad was like, yeah, you're fine. I remember the whole day.
Dick Toledo
But this day and age, like, I don't know how Jeff didn't have this happen to him. When Alex did his dive off the balcony, the cops showed up at the emergency room.
John Holberg
Oh, I think that happened to Jeff.
Dick Toledo
Oh, it did.
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John Holberg
I think that happened too. In my case. No cops.
Dick Toledo
I knew as soon as they walked in, I knew what was going on.
John Holberg
My grandpa and dad took me home and said, he won't stop crying. Something's wrong with it. And my mom's like, what'd you do? Oh, he fell down at the, at the drugstore. Then what'd you do? Well, we walked him around and he was fine and. But I was walked on a broken leg. I had a broken leg. And my grandpa, well, because I was in the snow thing, so you couldn't see that my leg was like swollen low leg, upper leg, lower leg.
John Holmberg
Yeah.
John Holberg
And I remember the whole day and then my mom's like, oh, jackasses. Like, she looked at my dad, you idiots. I'm crying my eyes out. And they took me to the hospital and I just remember people hovering above me. And then I got this weird big cast put on with a rubber stopper in the bottom because I was brand new to walking. But if I see you mopping a floor, you might as. It's like, I might as well be the scarecrow around fire. I hate it. So I can understand with little Albert a little bit, but it's pretty easy to make a kid scared of rats and gongs. Look, give me a kid right now and I'll wreck him for rats and gongs in a half hour. I give me a 20 year old and I can do it in probably a day anyway. Give me your 20 year olds and your Children. I'll do some work. It's 7:23. If you're still looking to get that app. The name is. Or the word is distortion. Brad, what do you got it through? What do you get in the big yellow? I don't care. Good luck. Good luck to you. It's not my problem anymore. What do you got on the big board there?
John Holmberg
All right. Wake up song time. And first one on the list for Brady. Killed by Death for Motorhead. Faith no More. The kids aren't all right. Warning Sick in this moment. Horror for well, yesterday. Five Finger Death, Punch, Mud Vein, Corn, Fear Factory, Pantera Rise, Van Halen. Pound Cake for Edward, the guy that won Sarah yesterday.
Dick Toledo
Nice.
John Holmberg
And System of a Down.
Dick Toledo
And then texters are saying, rats by.
John Holberg
Ghost for Young for Little Albert, Little Rats. Then I have a gong song today. You know what? I want to hear some Pound Cake by Van Halen.
John Holmberg
All right.
John Holberg
Mainly because it is exactly what Edward's gonna do to our. Our. Our prize. She's gonna hurt Edward. He's in for it. There was another guy. She got the email and she's. She's working on a couple of them. But, yeah. I mean, we may be responsible for, like, the spread of STDs, but it's not our fault.
John Holmberg
What are you gonna do?
John Holberg
Wrap it up. Edward. You heard her yesterday when Sarah said it. I was wearing a condom. It's like he's not even in the room. Like. That is the worst great logic I've ever heard in my life. Life. And this song is underrated. It's as old as that bird, though. Coming out of 1991. How about that? Since 35. Pound cake. This didn't come. This wasn't in a movie.
John Holmberg
No, it.
John Holberg
Humans.
John Holmberg
That was. That's one.
John Holberg
It was in Twister. But yeah, Pound Cake was just. This was when they kind of tried with Sammy Hagar to be cool. Double entendre cool. This is about a vagina or butt. Is it a butt or a vagina? What would the pound cake represent?
Dick Toledo
Either way, I think Brett's right.
John Holmberg
Pounding away. It doesn't matter.
Dick Toledo
Whatever your preference is.
John Holberg
All right.
John Holmberg
But she doesn't do the butt stuff, so. Edward, be careful where you go with that. Yeah, don't screw that from yesterday.
John Holberg
Sarah's butt stuff. She's not into that. And I don't know what kind of only fans Christian turns down the butt. That's. I'm an only fans Christian, which is a great band name also. You can get on that. Yeah. This song is underrated. This has some stuff to it. It's Pound Cake from van Halen. It's 98K upd.
Dick Toledo
It's not weird. It's pretty cool actually.
John Holberg
No membership fees. I have heard enough of this.
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This episode of "Holmberg's Morning Sickness" is classic irreverence and banter from the 98KUPD crew. The cast tackles topics ranging from James Van Der Beek’s passing and the culture around colonoscopy and cancer screening, to record-setting cockatiels, and the notorious 1900s "Little Albert" psychological experiment. There’s skepticism, dark humor, playful self-mockery, and a thread of questioning “how things are done”—exactly what fans expect from this Arizona morning radio staple.
"I’ve checked out my own prostate on the reg. It’s fine. … I know exactly where the almond is, and I keep an eye on changes."
"I say we take all that money and put it towards technology to keep fingers out of our asses at the doctor’s office."
“James Van Der Beek, Colonoscopies, and Fundraisers”
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“Guinness Book Bird Records, Parental Lies, and the Pointlessness of Plaques”
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“Jesus, Holmberg. I thought this was recent… Thank god it was in the 20s.”
“Little Albert, Child Experimentation, and Life Was Tougher Before”
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"All the kids do is just grab iPads and DoorDash food to each other. That’s a date." (31:44, John Holberg)
“Generational Hardship: Childhood Then vs. Now”
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