02-12-26 - Resetting Our Show w/Lonely Listener Sarah Yesterday - HGTV Show Rehab Addict Canceled After Host Nicole Curtis Drops N*Bomb During Taping

Summary

Podcast Summary: Holmberg's Morning Sickness – 02-12-26

Overview of Episode Theme

In this episode of Holmberg’s Morning Sickness, John Holmberg and the crew (Brett, Dick Toledo, absent Brady) reflect on the previous day's wild show featuring "lonely listener" Sarah, discuss cultural naivety around adult relationships and lifestyles, and deep-dive into the news of HGTV star Nicole Curtis ("Rehab Addict") being fired for using a racial slur on set. The conversation runs the gamut from awkward social experiences to moral debates on what happens when private exclamations become public scandals.

---

Key Discussion Points and Insights

1. Resetting After "Lonely Listener Sarah"

• The hosts debrief on having Sarah—a unique, outspoken listener—participate in a dating-style segment the prior day. The fallout, especially for the show's regular Brady, is a main topic.
• Sarah sent a nude photo to Edward, a “Ninja Turtle” toy collector, which the guys discuss in a mix of humor and shock. Holmberg warns, "You just went on the radio and begged for it... This is as good as you're gonna do here." (03:00)
• Brady, notably absent, is teased for being "frightened" and "running” from Sarah: “He had his track shoes on... running down the hall like Carl Lewis." (03:54)
• The segment provoked a flurry of emails and a spike in engagement from “felons” and “ex-cons.” The team sees this as a sociological experiment exposing their own bubbles and biases.

2. Generational Cluelessness about Modern Dating and Sex Work

• Chiding both themselves and Brady for not understanding the prevalence of transactional dating (“sugar daddy” sites like Seeking Arrangements), the hosts admit surprise at just how mainstream such arrangements are:
  • "Are there a lot of people on this? It's like Facebook, like everybody's got a page, OnlyFans, all that stuff. I'm too naive to it." (14:13)
• The group uses self-deprecating stories about their own "naive" upbringings regarding sex, casual relationships, and even recreational drug use:
  • Holmberg confesses: "...in my late 30s when I discovered that most people I know are casual drug users. ...I assumed my way was the majority. It wasn't." (10:23)
• Brady’s naivety is presented as both comic relief and symbolic for a generation sheltered from and/or judgmental of less conventional lifestyles.

3. Nicole Curtis, “Rehab Addict,” and the Pitfalls of Live TV

• Major topic: Nicole Curtis, star of “Rehab Addict” on HGTV, is fired after being caught on a hot mic uttering the N-word during a renovation mishap.
• Holmberg, dissecting the apology, mocks the claim “that’s not part of my vocabulary”: “Yes, it is. You said it. You know it. You said it. It fell out.” (19:32)
• The team debates context, intent, and the notion of a “freebie” pass for expletives when injured:
  • “I’m gonna go ahead and, as a white person, even give a pass to anybody for an injury N-word.” (25:32)
  • Dick Toledo disagrees: “Gonna have to disagree on that one, Bob.” (27:20)
• There’s broad cynicism about the industry’s scapegoating and whether one inadvertent slip should destroy a lengthy career. However, they also acknowledge the complicated cultural weight such words carry.
• Entertaining what constitutes an “acceptable” context for such language, they mostly laugh off the entire scenario while making it clear they don’t condone the behavior.

4. Reflection on Selves, Culture, and Media

• The gang satirizes sanctimonious apologies and the difference between private frustration and public outrage, drawing on personal stories (e.g., cussing at DIY projects).
• Discussion of generational shifts in what’s considered “mainstream,” especially regarding sex work, race, and drugs, is laced with both admiration and astonishment.
• There’s acknowledgment of feeling bad for Nicole Curtis: “I feel bad for Nicole Curtis for, you know, one word and her whole career is over. And it wasn’t even like she said it to someone. She said it while she was wrestling with wiring or some sort of project…” (31:50)

---

Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Sarah’s appearance and boldness:
  • “We human trafficked a woman yesterday.” (01:49, John Holmberg)
  • “She’s a wild card.” (06:25, John Holmberg)
• On the new world of dating:
  • “If you’re getting a thousand bucks a pull for your poon... I’d have a Ferrari.” (15:23, Brett)
  • “My job is kegels now. Seven, eight hours a day.” (15:31, John Holmberg)
• On Nicole Curtis’s firing:
  • “She just drops the n-bomb... She was working on a light and just says it. That’s what’s wrong with this... No, you’re not hot enough to do that.” (18:33, 19:32, John Holmberg)
  • “I want to be clear. And this is the worst thing you can say... Not part of my vocabulary.” (19:30, 19:32, John Holmberg)
• On rationalizing accidental slurs:
  • “If I hurt myself in a DIY project, I’m allowed to mort out something like, I got Tourette’s. Is that OK?” (25:03, John Holmberg)
  • "Gonna have to disagree on that one, Bob.” (27:20, Dick Toledo)
• On Fred Flintstone and the past:
  • "Even Fred Flintstone, the cartoon, would yabba dabba... I think he threw the bomb called Barney. ... They were cavemen." (31:15–31:38, John Holmberg)
• On generational naiveté:
  • "He’s got to put her back in the bubble. ...She can’t discover that this world exists." (07:03, John Holmberg)
  • “I was so naive to all of that. Still to this day, somebody will say something like, I can’t. But Brady’s that way with, like, stuff that I know now. ...He goes, just can’t believe that’s a common thing. Like, oh, the sugar daddy thing.” (13:14–14:10)

---

Timestamps for Important Segments

• Debrief on Sarah, nude photo fallout: 01:49–04:35
• Brady’s comic panic, generational “bubble”: 03:54–08:12
• Sex, sugar daddies, Seeking Arrangements: 13:14–15:31
• Nicole Curtis incident, language debate: 17:20–27:44
• Personal “naivety” stories (casual drugs, sex): 09:31–13:14
• Cultural baggage, Flintstones humor: 30:00–32:35

---

Episode Tone and Style

The show retains its fast-talking, irreverent, and slightly cynical tone throughout. The hosts are brutally honest, sometimes crude, often self-mocking, and always ready to undercut any claim of moral superiority—with special shots at themselves and especially their missing co-host Brady. The humor is edgy but rarely mean-spirited, focusing more on the absurdity of modern life and the generational/cultural divides now so hard to ignore.

---

Conclusion

This episode encapsulates what makes Holmberg’s Morning Sickness unique: a combination of envelope-pushing humor, generational reflection, and pointed pop culture commentary. Whether dissecting their own hang-ups or the headline-making mistakes of reality TV hosts, Holmberg and crew offer both entertainment and accidentally insightful social critique.

Transcript

[Brett]

You're listening to the HMS Podcast, brought to you by mmpguns.com, your most trusted online marketplace for firearms, ammunition and accessories.

[Dick Toledo]

The Winter Olympics have begun, and you want to know why Betting the Winter Games on FanDuel just makes sense. It's Dick Toledo from Holberg's morning sickness. And from game lines to medal counts to finding your angle on the events you care about most, FanDuel gives you more ways to stay connected to the action. That's right, the Winner Games are on. And there's no better way to follow them than with a little wager on FanDuel. The winner games and FanDuel play your game 21 plus in President Arizona gambling problem. Call 1-800-next-step or text next step to 533-42.

[John Holberg]

It's John Holberg here from the morning sickness for life changerloan.com so as you know by now, if I'm telling you about a product, I am using it. And that's because I don't want to be accused of steering you the wrong direction. I've told you that most clients of Life Changer Loan pay off their mortgage in about five years. That means you're not paying 30 years of interest. So on top of paying off your mortgage in five years because all your money goes to the principal first, you're going to save hundreds of thousands of dollars on interest. It isn't tr. Nothing about this should have you roll in your eyes. It's not magic, it's just math. Lifechangerloan.com Morning sickness. You've been deceived by an agent of Satan himself. 98. Good morning everybody. Hello there. Welcome to Thursday. It's 5:45. My name is John. How are you? That chair's empty. There's Brett. There's big Dick Toledo. As Brady is very possibly afflicted with some type of brain tumor or something. His head has exploded with sinus infection. And he's not, not coming in today because he was. He was on his last legs yesterday. You could see it in his eyes. He wasn't going to get through the day.

[Brett]

I don't know. I think he was a little scared yesterday.

[John Holberg]

Yeah.

[Brett]

And then just come on.

[John Holberg]

And then reality came in uninvited to the party and introduced itself to Brady again. And Sarah was a treat. Sarah was a treat. We had the chat on the podcast. You can pick it up again. But having Sarah in as we human trafficked a woman yesterday. And yeah, a lot of takeaways from Sarah after. Oh yeah. Oh yeah, she's a special girl. She's very nice, very sweet. Yeah, no, she was, but she's. Yeah, this was my favorite part. Yesterday, after the show was over, the man that won her and was to human traffic her wherever he wants. The Ninja Turtle guy.

[Brett]

Yes. Edward.

[John Holberg]

I think his name.

[Brett]

Yeah, I think that was it.

[John Holberg]

So he sends a picture of himself to her. Okay. He's a nice looking guy.

[Brett]

All right.

[John Holberg]

You know. And she's like, he's a. He gets a beard. And she's starting. I'm like, look, you just went on the radio and begged for it. This is nice. This is a good fingers.

[Brett]

Can't be choosers over. What are you doing?

[John Holberg]

Thank you. This is as good as you're gonna do here. This is nice. And he's like, how about a picture of you? And I just casually said, yeah, send him like a naked one or something. Be crazy. Sure enough, just fires off a full nude.

[Brett]

Oh, nice. All right.

[John Holberg]

And then Edward fires back, nice bush. And I didn't look at the picture, you know, I just noticed that she'd done it. And I'm like, did you send him one of like an unkempt kind of thing down there? And she goes, no, I mean, it's there, but it's like, okay, you did. That's a bush shot. Yeah. So this.

[Brett]

Look, they don't trim in Santan Valley or. What is this?

[John Holberg]

Coolidge doesn't have electricity for clippers. So I thought to myself, well, you know, we did Edward a solid. This dude's in there playing with his action figures because he's a collector of Ninja Turtles. And this is. Sure thing. Don't screw this up, Edward. This is done. You cannot make a mistake here. But yeah, you're right. Brady was. Brady ran out of here yesterday. The sugar daddy talk. And then, you know, a lifestyle he doesn't want to admit that is. That happens in humanity. Yeah, he ran from her. She was a bad influence. Brand liability.

[Brett]

We didn't even get the normal lay and slammed the door. He had his track shoes on and was running down the hall like Carl Lewis.

[John Holberg]

Almost every time Brady leaves, we all hear it. Yeah, Lee. And it echoes through the halls and he waddles out. No, he ran from here. Gotta get away from that. That's the. That's the enemy's plan to put me in darkness. Yeah, he didn't. That was clear that. That was if you were to ask him, like, Sarah and you are going to go out to lunch. No, not my cup of tea. Which is the kind way of saying, I'd never do anything with that person. I think she scared him. And that was my favorite part of yesterday. His fear was my favorite part of the entire day.

[Brett]

I should have had her fire over the nude to him.

[John Holberg]

Oh, my God. That's just wrong. No, no, no, we'll kill him. You can't go throwing. No, he was afraid of her. Like, he was. Yeah, he was never. See those people, like in the. Those religious document documentaries that have, you know, they're introduced to something, they say this is a demon or something. They believe it, and they're whole. That was Brady. I think he thought she might have been demonic. I think he had some sort of.

[Dick Toledo]

A Right off the door.

[John Holberg]

Well, no, we're not sending nudes to anybody. That's just. No, I don't want to be responsible for that. Getting in his house and then. Oh, then he's right. Then the evil infiltrates his home. You can't have that.

[Dick Toledo]

Share an Apple account, John. So Kirby.

[John Holberg]

Ronnie. Oh, no, we could not. No, this is. This proves. Well, then. No, this, in fact, would prove. I will never give that number to Sarah just because that would then prove that his fear. Well, if you can do it. And I'm. Look, here's how evil I am. You can do that. And I'm going to giggle like crazy, but I will not be the responsible party. And getting the emails and man, my, my. This is. It was ridiculous.

[Dick Toledo]

Oh, my God.

[John Holberg]

A massive amount of emails came in talking about her, and I was shocked to find that, you know, the felons really enjoyed oh, the dating game yesterday. Lots of felons checking in.

[Brett]

Well, the ex cons came out yesterday.

[John Holberg]

They were happy to talk to her. So it was an interesting show. It was an interesting podcast, I'll say. Yesterday.

[Brett]

Well, afterwards, it seemed like, you know, when she wasn't sure if she wanted to take a role in the Donatello Ninja Turtle sheets with Edward. Yeah, that she was up on Larry.

[John Holberg]

Oh, she loved Larry.

[Brett]

What's going on there?

[John Holberg]

I don't know.

[Brett]

Okay.

[John Holberg]

I stayed out of it, too.

[Brett]

All right.

[John Holberg]

But I, I. Yeah, we introduced a wild card yesterday to the party. And did she fire over a photo to Larry? I don't know. I didn't. I didn't talk to Larry about it. You know why you're handing out those numbers and stuff? Maybe talk her into that one, too, because that I'm for. I won't do it myself again. I'm not going to be the guy who gave the. The commands. XO has the comm that's you, my friend.

[Brett]

I'll fire it right on over.

[John Holberg]

I'm not doing that. Oh, yeah, but poor Brady. Yeah, you can't do that to him. And Larry would be. Yeah, that. You can't do that. Too fragile Brett.

[Brett]

And you notice this is the one time that Brady didn't try to hand it. Yeah. Why don't you give me those digits? Yeah.

[John Holberg]

He was scared of was such a. Almost a sociological experiment to watch how, like, unenthused Brady was with this faction of humanity that. That's out there somewhere. And I think he just probably went home and hugged Kirby. Yeah, I didn't know that was out there. Like, he's got to put her back in the bubble. She can't discover that this world exists. With, like, casually talking about a sugar daddy is to his brain. I wish he was here to defend this, but to his brain, I just. Like, he wants to try to say nice things, but I can't imagine what his mom bunny would have just been like, oh, it would have been so good to have the boat.

[Dick Toledo]

I just can't believe that that goes on.

[John Holberg]

I just. I don't buy it.

[Brett]

After he watches the videos every week, he can't believe that kind of stuff goes on.

[John Holberg]

Those are all AI. Like, he's got. It's a good. He lives in a better world than us. None of the stuff we see.

[Brett]

I guess I'm jealous. I think. I don't know.

[John Holberg]

In a weird way, he doesn't have to actually think it's real. Not confronting that reality. Is this his reality? And then when it's presenting itself here, it's demonic. And I don't blame him because it was hilarious. But she was fun. It was a fun thing.

[Brett]

I was leaving yesterday, and everybody in sales is like, is she really like that?

[John Holberg]

Well, yeah.

[Brett]

Go up there.

[John Holberg]

Go up there.

[Brett]

I know Jennifer came up there.

[Dick Toledo]

Oh, that was a great interaction. I didn't see it, but I heard it. Yeah, you're funny.

[John Holberg]

Yeah.

[Dick Toledo]

That is like the girl swipe of.

[John Holberg]

And then she's like, hey, if I call my brother, can. Can you talk to him? I'm like, sure. And she facetimes her. But brother couldn't have been nicer. Very nice guy. And like, she wasn't unkind. She was fun. She was nice. But the brother wasn't what I expected. He seemed like everything just. I expected normal. He was totally normal. Is he a lawyer? No. I don't know what he does. He's that. But he was just a.

[Brett]

No, we know about the Lawyer?

[John Holberg]

Yeah. Oh no. Yeah, the lawyer was the sugar daddy. Yeah, the lawyer. That was just a great. Yeah. And sometimes you have to introduce yourself to that side of the world. I think we get too straight and narrow in our lanes and we realize that what, you know, what's going on out there. I remember, you know, it's like when I found out everyone in high school was, was having sex and I'm like, wait a minute. What? I thought we were all on the same page of being a little bit afraid of that. Not in. If you didn't have a girlfriend, it was impossible. Like it had to be relationship. Then you're like, no. There was casual like sex happening in high school and my brain just did not understand how that's possible.

[Brett]

You thought like Brady in high school.

[John Holberg]

Oh yeah. No, it like you know, white picket fans and freshman year Ben Burry.

[Dick Toledo]

When I found out he was having. I'm like, stop.

[John Holberg]

Yeah. Oh yeah, yeah.

[Dick Toledo]

That doesn't happen.

[John Holberg]

I, I always thought you had to have like a hand picked daisies and a tuxedo and your hair slicked down and like ding dong yes.

[Dick Toledo]

Where you had to pin a girl.

[John Holberg]

In order to get that. Yeah. My, my, my world of that was completely like Jimmy Stewart should have been involved. It was so old fashioned. I'm going to pin her, I'm going to take her out. I didn't know how to do it. I didn't know you could just go, do you want to go do something? And then start rolling around with them. I did not know that was possible. So then like this whole new world open. You know what else I didn't know? I was in my late 30s when I discovered that most people I know are casual drug users.

[Dick Toledo]

Yeah.

[John Holberg]

Like the most normal people I know are like, hey, good bump now and again. Like to me that was mind blowing. Until I realized, well, I'm the one. I'm the one that's different.

[Dick Toledo]

You're the one of pure heart.

[John Holberg]

I'm the. No, I'm not. I'm just different than almost everybody. Oh, I used to do blow all the time. Like the most normal people telling me that that was part of their life for a while or currently every once in a while they're like, New Year's Eve, we'll do it again. I'm like, really? I've never even. Like I used to run from rooms I would watch like at Tony Roma's and stuff when I worked in the, the kitchen guys would do. I remember opening the office once and one of the managers had A tinfoil out. And they were. They were smoking crack or something.

[Brett]

I don't know, the Valenzuelas or.

[John Holberg]

Oh, one of the managers. Oh, wow, a white guy. But they had a tinfoil open and it had a rock on it and a lighter underneath that and a glass tube. And I walked in and it was almost like I might as well just yell, demons, I rebuke you. I just slammed the door and kind of ran from it. Like, oh, my God. And all I'm thinking was, there's huge problems. Like, they're addicts. They're gonna steal money. They're like, we're all gonna go to jail. I mean, my first thought, and then I realized, you know, crack's a different one. But I mean, when you're starting to. When you're around that. And then I'm like, who else is doing this? I thought, like, whispering it to other people. Like, oh, my God, I think he's doing drugs. Everybody's like, so, like, no, no, no. Like real drugs. They're like, yeah, so relax, Nancy Reagan. Exactly. I was. I was so outside the fringe. And then I had those doors open. I' I mean, I choose not to do it, but it's happening all around me. And I just chose to assume my way was the majority. It wasn't. Visit Holmberg's morning sickness [e-mail] all right.

[Announcer]

HMS podcast, time again to let you know where to go for some great comedy in the Valley this week. Downtown and stand up live. Get out and see the comedy of Moshe Casher and the up and coming Ari Maddie. Up north at Desert Ridge, you'll get Josh Wolf and SNL's Tommy Brennan and East side of the Tempe Improv Don'. The very funny Sam J. And more Josh Wolf. For the complete lineups and for Tickets, go to standuplive.com Desert Ridge, improv.com and.

[John Holberg]

Tempeimprov.Com It's John Holmerg here from the morning sickness and it's time to talk about Doug Hopkins of my home group and Doug hopkins.com let's talk about the people who make claims. For instance, a company out there saying they'll get you 100% of market value for your home. And a lot of times, Mr. 100% getting that inspection and says, oh, 100% just dropped because you've got a few more problems. Don't play around with these people. Trust me when I say you can trust TV's Doug Hopkins. He won't play. Play with the offer at all. If he does, he'll give you $5,000 guaranteed. You can start the [e-mail] or grab that phone and Singberg's morning sickness.

[Brett]

You think about all those commercials that we had in the 80s and we're growing up and stuff. It'll make you feel good. Yeah.

[John Holberg]

No, no, I was the. No, no, no. Okay. I ran away. I learned it by watching you.

[Brett]

Right. That one.

[John Holberg]

Right. Oh, well, I was. So look. Yeah, I learned it from you. That kid just opened up that. The dad opens up the drawer. He found this in your drawer.

[Brett]

It looked like Dennis friends and stuff like that.

[John Holberg]

Who thought you had to do this? I learned it from you. That was me. I was that kid almost, you know? Yeah. Finding Playboys. I'd look over my shoulders like, we're gonna get arrested for, like, I was so naive to all of that. Still to this day, somebody will say something like, I can't. But. But Brady's that way with, like, stuff that, like, I know now. Like, see, those doors opened yesterday, so he could very easily be. I remember after we were talking, he goes, just can't believe that's a common thing. Like, oh, the sugar daddy thing.

[Brett]

There's a website more real than you want to.

[John Holberg]

There's. And. And it is.

[Dick Toledo]

How long have we seen the back page of the New Times?

[John Holberg]

But that's. To me, that's cd. Now it's just. Yeah.

[Dick Toledo]

Because now I think it's more mainstream than anything.

[John Holberg]

I forgot the name of the website. Something Seeking. Damn it.

[Dick Toledo]

Seeking sugar.

[John Holberg]

No, no, no, it's not that. But it's literally, Larry was talking about it yesterday. Goes, no, no, you just go on there, and the girls will put, like, little roses. There's little emojis on the bottom of what they want. And sometimes it's bills, car payment. And they don't necessarily say they're sex, but they're gonna be sex.

[Brett]

So we'll take crank for counterpayment.

[John Holberg]

And if you just go on there, we're like, look, this is an arrangement. The seeking arrangements. That's what. So it's you. You arrange a transactional relationship by saying, yeah, we can do stuff together. And if it leads to sex, that's. It's not prostitution yet. It's prostitution light. But I'm like, are there. I remember telling Larry, like, are there a lot of people on this? He goes, oh, it's. It's like Facebook. Like, everybody's got a page, only fans, all that stuff. I'm too naive to it. Brady's blind to it. I'm naive to it, but it makes sense to me. And if you're getting a thousand bucks a pull for your poon.

[Brett]

Oh, I bet I'd have a Ferrari.

[John Holberg]

Yeah, that would be the richest girl in the world.

[Brett]

I'd have a Ferrari. A couple cranks. Cranks a month.

[John Holberg]

Can you imagine? And then I just go home, do kegels. My job is kegels now. Seven, eight hours a day, Tighten that bad boy up. Go get some sort of ablation so I'm never bleeding. And roll that bad boy out every time. Like Barrett Jackson every day. Who's the highest bidder? Let's go. A thousand bucks a blow. I know it's classless, but damn it, I would be. First off, I'd be one ugly ass woman. The only thing I've got is this. And I would be throwing it at everybody for a few bucks. I'm not gonna give it away for free. I just face the other way.

[Brett]

Get some big clown cans. You'd be fine. Don't worry. There's dudes that are boob blind once.

[John Holberg]

You get clown can. Yeah, this newt Roc thing I got going on, it's gonna. Nobody's gonna care she's ugly as sin. But the cats and I would get some good ones.

[Brett]

Get some petrus cans.

[John Holberg]

Oh, yeah. Oh, I get those teardrops. Nothing. Yeah, they'd be good. You're almost talking me into this. Anyway, six o' clock on the dot. The word for six o' clock to get into your nine inch nail suite that feeds coming up here in March is broken. Speaking of periods, that's the word. She's broken. Broken. Broken for vacations or.

[Brett]

Oh, every time. Every time.

[John Holberg]

Excellent. First dates. Broken every time. Broken is the word right there. And that's all you need to worry about. You put it in on the app or at our website and you, my friends, can be sitting in the suite.

[Brett]

I heard that one time, like, what are you talking about? We just went on vacation two weeks ago. How are you broken again?

[John Holberg]

Yeah, come on. I think you're cutting. I think you're a God. There's a. I'll add a consonant to the word cutter. I think that's what she is. She's a cutter. Speaking of words you can't say anymore. I don't know, Brett. If you watch a lot of hgtv. I watched a ton of it.

[Brett]

Nah, not too much.

[John Holberg]

I used to love it. I used to love watching flip shows and things like that. And the one that always got me Was. There's a show called. What was it called? Rehab something. Rehab. It was in Detroit.

[Dick Toledo]

Rehab addict.

[John Holberg]

Rehab Addict. So, yeah, a girl. The girl's name was Nicole Curtis.

[Brett]

Oh, I remember her.

[John Holberg]

Yeah, she was really cute.

[Brett]

She's pretty.

[John Holberg]

She had a son. And I always thought. And I always used to bring this up. I'm like, I like watching that because eventually she's going to reveal how lonely she is. I watched the deeper meaning of Rehab Addict when she. Because she loved Detroit, but she had problems with men. That was not announced. But she manifested her male problems into old homes where she was a type of girl. I need to fix this. Like, she. Her. Her relationship with whoever she had a kid with. And the boy was on the show every once in a while, clearly went the ways of. I could not save him from himself. And I don't know if it was just behavioral or if it was drugs or whatever. So it was sad in its own weird way because she was so hell bent on being a fixer. Well, she's never going to be on TV again.

[Brett]

Oh, why don't you whip him out?

[John Holberg]

No. Oh, she pulled a.

[Brett]

She's cute enough.

[John Holberg]

It's the best episode you'd have ever watched. She was working on a light and they're filming and she was struggling with like, electric stuff or something. And then she just drops the end bomb. No yelling at the. You know, when you're in Detroit. Well, that's what's wrong with this. Here's the thing. No, you're not hot enough to do that. Oh, you. She's just saying. It's like in A Christmas Story when the bumpkiss hounds. And he's like, it's Yosemite Sam cussing and everybody's done it. When you're struggling with something and you just say something stupid like. And then comes out and you're like, whoops. I think somebody at that show hated her because it's taped and it got out, Right. Oh, and so she says, and this is where she's done forever. I want to be clear. And this is the worst thing you.

[Dick Toledo]

Can say whenever you want to be clear.

[John Holberg]

The worst thing you can say. The word in question is wrong and not part of my vocabulary. Yes, it is. You said it. You said it. You know it. You said it. It fell out. Now, I do that all the time. I don't drop the N bomb, but I'll throw the homo F word or other slurs at, like, something that's defeating me. That's an inanimate object that I'M trying to get through, but she threw out the N bomb. She said, I want to apologize to everyone. I'm grateful. And then she says, they. Because they fired her that day after the tape got out. So the dude taping the production crew didn't protect the person on the other end. Now, that tells me either somebody on the production crew hated her or was a black guy and was like, no, I know this. I know she's in on this. I'm tired of hearing her say it.

[Brett]

Or that was his sugar mama. She cut him off.

[John Holberg]

Oh, yeah, that's a good.

[Brett]

I mean, that's a good twist.

[John Holberg]

That's good fan fiction right there. I like that. But yeah, so she dropped that bomb. And now all I want to do is watch the clip. How bad was it? Was it a hard R? Was it.

[Brett]

Do we have it?

[John Holberg]

Was she. No. I don't know.

[Dick Toledo]

Was she losing an episode?

[John Holberg]

No. Oh, they're filming an episode.

[Dick Toledo]

Gotcha.

[John Holberg]

And she says it. And then she's like, oh. And they're like, shut down production now because you're done. It's like, no, no, we don't have to air that. Can I get. Can I just. Give me a break.

[Dick Toledo]

Mulligan.

[John Holberg]

Yeah, no, Mulligan. They fired her immediately for even thinking it. And you know you can't do that when there's cameras rolling or mic's on. No, she got ratted out. But I mean, I think she's fine so long as she doesn't say. Well, it's like when Tom Brennaman, our good friend Tom Brennaman's like, I'm a good man. These are not words in my vocabulary. Yes, they are. Not only that, because if it would be. Because then you just cuss like a five year old. Yeah, exactly.

[Dick Toledo]

Or a Mormon.

[John Holberg]

Right. You knew how to use it in a sentence. It's part of your vocabulary. We gotta stop that. But the apologies are so stupid. But yeah, she. She hit the N bomb barking at a light fixture. Whatever she was trying to fix, because it was mad. I tend to. And this is because of my friend Thomas. When I'm doing work, like when I was trying to put those bike racks on the wall. The whole time I'm cursing at the wall, I'm cursing at the material. I'm doing a terrible job drilling holes in walls and just making a mockery of the whole thing. I do it with a Scottish accent and I don't know why. And that's because it feels better to say horrible things in a Scottish accent when you're just like, oh, you mother. That's right. Yeah. Just don't go through the brick, you piece of. This little.

[Dick Toledo]

It's the only purpose.

[John Holberg]

Don't do it. This sucking. I've tell you. Why don't you bend over and you're gaping. I say horrible things in a Scottish accent. C word is non stop.

[Brett]

Oh, yeah.

[John Holberg]

Oh, it's. But it feels better. So it's a character of frustrated. Do it yourselfer. That's what I do. But I also know that I'm not doing a show that's being recorded.

[Dick Toledo]

Yeah.

[John Holberg]

And I think I would kind of pull back on the whole. I would tell people like, hey, welcome to rehab addict. My name is John, by the way. When I'm working hard and it's not going my way, I turn into Shrek for a little bit. And the most foul mouth version of him ever. So just give me a little grace on that because it's going to get weird and I, I turn into a strange person. But yeah, she's gone and done. So the show was supposed to return to air after a long hiatus. They brought her back. So I'm wondering if the like, does she still get to sell the houses? She did all the work.

[Dick Toledo]

Well, she becomes a silent partner now, right?

[John Holberg]

I guess.

[Dick Toledo]

I mean, she still does all the work. You just can't see who did it.

[Brett]

I'm pretty sure that papa John. Isn't he still getting a paycheck even though he's not part of the company, quote unquote.

[Dick Toledo]

I think he got bought out.

[Brett]

Oh, did.

[John Holberg]

I think they took care of him. But I mean, I'm like, I know for a fact that the dudes who worked at my house said terrible words. You hit your thumb with a hammer or a nail gun into your foot. I don't know. I think you're allowed to say everything. Visit Holmberg's morning sickness [e-mail] it's John Holmer here from the morning sickness. Time to talk about TV's Doug Hopkins of My Home Group and Doug Hopkins dot com. Another satisfied listener called TV's Doug Hopkins and sold her home for cash. She reached out her name, Ashley. And Doug wants to make it simple. Buy your house for cash as is. You don't have to do anything. Just like Ashley. No strings attached. If he moves that price, you get $5,000. Want to sell that place? Start the process online@doug hopkins.com or grab the phone and sing.

[Commercial Voice]

This episode is brought to you by Progressive Insurance. Do you ever find yourself playing the budgeting game. Well, with a name your price tool from Progressive, you can find options that fit your budget and potentially lower your bills. Try [e-mail] Progressive Casualty Insurance Company and affiliates. Price and coverage match limited by state law. Not available in all states.

[John Holberg]

Holmberg's morning sickness.

[Brett]

Look, I'm not trusting somebody working at my house if they yell fudge instead of the big one.

[John Holberg]

And I just.

[Brett]

He's not doing good work again.

[John Holberg]

Christmas story. Even Ralphie, when he dropped all the lug nuts. Fudge. But I didn't say fudge.

[Brett]

Right. Yeah. I'm not trusting a dude. That's not.

[John Holberg]

I think we have to. I don't know. If we have a meeting with all the races and have, like, a. Un. Un word. We'll call it. And we're like, look, you got to give us a break. If I hurt myself in a DIY project, I'm allowed to mort out something like, I got Tourette's. Is that okay? If. If. If I get shocked by a ceiling fan, I'm allowed to. I'm allowed to hit the. I'm allowed to hit that default N bomb button.

[Brett]

Billy says Nicole should find a doctor to diagnose her with Tourette's.

[John Holberg]

Yeah. Immediately.

[Brett]

A victim. Immediately.

[John Holberg]

Right. It's just. It doesn't just. I mean, people are like, why did that one slip out? Yeah, Kyle's right. You're dealing with an inanimate object. I mean, what were the wires making you think about? Were they black wires? Like, where are you with the. Why was that your immediate go to. But I think if you get shocked, like, it's. But maybe she was. I didn't see it. So maybe she's just, like, struggling with a lamp shade and then, whoops. But I think you're allowed to do it. I'm gonna go ahead and, as a white person, even give a pass to anybody for an injury. N word.

[Dick Toledo]

I don't know if you're.

[John Holberg]

Or homo. Effort. I think I'm allowed. I think Toledo. I think I've got enough cachet.

[Brett]

You're allowed to hand out the card.

[Dick Toledo]

I don't know.

[Brett]

The bounty hunter.

[John Holberg]

I think I'm allowed.

[Brett]

I. I don't know about that.

[John Holberg]

Yeah, I think I'm allowed to tell people, look, we give the guy a break. If he. If. All right, you better talk to your consigular area. Winston.

[Brett]

He may, you know, let him give you the approval.

[John Holberg]

Winston, please. Winston. If I. If I'm with Winston and we're working on electric stuff, I wouldn't do it.

[Brett]

Well, see, then, there you go.

[John Holberg]

But let's say Winston sees me on a ring camera, and I trip and fall and bash my head into a live wire. That's what I think. I'm allowed to bomb that.

[Dick Toledo]

No, because.

[John Holberg]

No. I think I'm allowed to do it. I think that is the only time whitey's allowed to just go pure primal. You're trying to put a ceiling fan in it.

[Dick Toledo]

Gonna have to disagree on that one, Bob.

[John Holberg]

All right, I think I'm gonna. I'm saying that.

[Brett]

Let's try it. Let's try it. I want to see people.

[John Holberg]

No, not me.

[Brett]

I'm saying, what if you can do it?

[John Holberg]

I remember when I was having my house rewired and the bathroom that I had to touch two wires together to turn the lights on, and I got real comfortable. No, no. Because it was totally wrong to do.

[Brett]

All right.

[John Holberg]

But for a day. It was like a day or two. But I got super comfortable going into the bathroom just tapping those wires. Well, that's a full electric.

[Brett]

Yeah.

[John Holberg]

And I. Dumbass. I'm like. I wanted to use my new bathroom. The only thing that wasn't done yet was the. So I popped off the caps, and I'm like. I know how to turn the lights on. Just put these two things together. And so I went in there and took a shower. And then I got to the point where I could just smash the things and they'd separate. Well, not when you're soaking wet.

[Brett]

Oh, Jesus.

[John Holberg]

And the wire stuck to me.

[Dick Toledo]

Yeah.

[Commercial Voice]

Yeah.

[John Holberg]

I didn't know that was gonna happen. And I'm pretty sure I just went. I was alone.

[Brett]

So proud.

[John Holberg]

I was. I don't know how I got. I don't know how I pulled myself away. It was. But I don't know what I said. I could have. It might be just a visceral reaction of the human mind that that word comes out when you're being electrocuted in your own home. Maybe because I had a ceiling fan do the same thing to me once. It just pushed me almost through the wall because I reached up and put the wires together, and I exploded.

[Brett]

What are you, Nicole Curtis?

[John Holberg]

I was Nicole Curtis, Yeah. I think. But you get. Once you. Once the. Happens when you get. And it's not just a shock. It's holding on to you. I think it happens. I know for a fact I didn't scream mother fudger. I'm positive I didn't. Keep it classy. I don't know that I have the right to say it. And what. And, like, see, this is where you guys have got us blacks. That if you get shocked or something and say it, it's okay. It's a powerful word. It's like your wife getting mad at you. There's a lot of women who don't like the C bomb. And I think if you got electrocuted around the house or you were doing some stuff and you're, you know, a knife and a toaster and, like. And you throw. I hate that word. Oh, my God. And she gives you grief about, look, I was almost dead. I'm allowed to throw a bomb there.

[Brett]

That's how I knew Mathia was the right one. As soon as I yelled that one time, she's like. I'm like, you okay with that?

[John Holberg]

She goes, oh, yeah, I use it.

[Brett]

All the time, too. I'm like, yes, you're a keeper.

[John Holberg]

C word is a. Have you ever see a beautiful woman using that word? Yeah.

[Brett]

And then she could get to pass.

[Dick Toledo]

I think she's dolled herself up for years. She's very. Been doing it forever.

[John Holberg]

Very pretty. But I always had a. There was always something sad about Nicole Curtis, something lurking, and it was always. I just couldn't help but think there's a past relationship that makes it so she feels like she's got to fix all of Detroit. Like somebody did a number.

[Brett]

Nobody can fix that place.

[John Holberg]

But no.

[Brett]

Yeah.

[John Holberg]

I mean, and maybe it was some sort of weird white savior syndrome that she'd go through all of Detroit and try to make it pretty again. Like, she's buying houses for 12 grand. You know, that was when Detroit was in its. You know, it was thrown down to nothing. She's getting these old 1920s houses, or 3,000 square for 12, 15,000 bucks.

[Dick Toledo]

You blow up the neighborhood, and there.

[John Holberg]

Were bad neighborhoods, right? And so. Yeah, I don't know, what's this blonde.

[Brett]

Doing in my neighborhood? What's she doing over there?

[John Holberg]

She's out there. You working on some electrical? What'd you say?

[Brett]

Sorry.

[John Holberg]

I was getting shocked. God damn right, you getting shocked. How do you think I feel? I'm appalled.

[Brett]

You gonna get shot.

[John Holberg]

They can't keep that up. Keep it up. Crack it. Yeah, I think that. I think hammer to, like, Fred Flintstone style hammer. I think Fred Flintstone used to do that when he. Remember when he would hit himself and his thumb would start throbbing and stuff like that. I'm pretty sure even Fred Flintstone, the cartoon, would yabba dabba. I think he threw the bomb called Barney. Oh, yeah, Those two. You think Fred and Barney didn't drop n bombs. You're crazy. Hey, Fred, you see the new in town? They were racist. They're cavemen. As long as they never let them vote Bond. It doesn't even have. I don't even know that they ever.

[Brett]

I don't think so.

[John Holberg]

Colored anyone in. In that. They never went. Brown pencils.

[Dick Toledo]

No, no, no, no.

[John Holberg]

Yeah. Gazoo was the closest thing, as Winston says.

[Dick Toledo]

Melanated.

[John Holberg]

They didn't use that one. That's right. Yeah. I don't want it to be something, but I just think this poor girl needs a. I don't know. She needs a pass for this one. She didn't do it maliciously. It just fell. And it just makes you think. And it makes everybody think. Oh, she's throwing that around like crazy. I feel. I feel for Nicole Curtis for, you know, one word and her whole career is over. And it wasn't even like she said it to someone. She said it while she was wrestling with wiring or some sort of a project. She called that thing. I know Toledo. It's a slippery.

[Dick Toledo]

You say we're gonna road parse that out.

[Brett]

Hey, there was a black Flintstones character.

[John Holberg]

There was.

[Brett]

Yeah.

[John Holberg]

Not in my house. Bond.

[Brett]

Philo Quartz.

[John Holberg]

Philo Quartz, the first black character in the Flintstones. Well, now they brought her in an 86. 86. Flintstones was on the 60s, 20 years too late.

[Brett]

But look at this. They had the black stones.

[Dick Toledo]

What?

[John Holberg]

All right, that's worse than what Nicole Curtis did.

[Brett]

Yeah.

[Dick Toledo]

Like separately.

[Brett]

Yeah, it was like a spin off or something.

[John Holberg]

Huh.

[Brett]

It was just in the late 70s.

[Dick Toledo]

Wow.

[John Holberg]

Oppressed cavemen in the. In bedrock.

[Dick Toledo]

What did the Mormons run the stunts.

[John Holberg]

And they decided to change it. They just drew Fred and made him black. That spread a little bit of a fro.

[Brett]

But he's a little.

[John Holberg]

He's in better shape, too. And his thing was like. He wrapped it. Bob Quartz. Bob Quartz. All right. Yeah, Yeah, I know it's a lot. Thanks, Nicole. Well, yeah, it doesn't. Yeah, there's like. Yeah, if you can't. There's.

[Brett]

When did she start her only fans page? That's what I want to know.

[John Holberg]

Well, I think I'm. She's in her probably mid to late 40s now. Well, she's not going to make as much money.

[Brett]

Adriana did it. She'll make the money. Yeah, but everybody, supporters out there.

[John Holberg]

Adriana was slutting up on the Sopranos so long. We wanted to see her naked. She was the only one in the show that didn't Give.

[Brett]

Yeah.

[John Holberg]

So we kind of were like. And then a little disappointed.

[Brett]

I know them Luke Bryant fans will be all up in that. Yep.

[John Holberg]

It doesn't make it right, but.

[Brett]

I didn't say it made it right.

[John Holberg]

But I think everybody can go. We understand now if she makes a habit of it and it becomes her go to. That's different. But if you're getting shocked.

[Brett]

So you get a one, you get a freebie, you get a pass.

[John Holberg]

So, like, it's like, bingo. Can the center square be free? Can we get one? Can we break glass in case of emergency? So long as it's not aimed at another person. Can I have. Ooh, I used up my freebie. And then you get, like, a tattoo, and you're like a barcode that says you're not allowed to use it ever again. I don't know. It's just. I feel bad for her. I felt bad for her from the beginning, though. Anyway. What are you gonna do? Poor Nicole Curtis. The whole show's canceled. Like, we couldn't enjoy her work ever again. She's been on forever. Yeah, I know. All the reruns are out. Like, all the work she's done where she rehabs a kitchen. You're like, that's beautiful. But, you know, she said that once, and so we can't like her stuff. Does it mean she's bad at what she does? No. Sometimes I didn't like her design. She kept it a little too authentic to the 20s, and it looked like garbage. But still, that's a personal preference. And maybe that's her thing. Like, her desire to go back to the 20s was pretty strong, and now she's showing like. Like she wanted to go back 100 years, man. Right. She did it the other day.

[Brett]

She had separate water coolers on the job site and everything. I mean, come on.

[John Holberg]

She's like, I want to restore this home to exactly how it was in the 20s. And then she did it where workers were allowed to just go. Anyway, I don't know what you do. Broken is the word you're using for nine inch nails this morning. Broken it is. 6.

[Commercial Voice]

17.

[Brett]

This coming in from a white guy. As a white person, I believe you can say the N word in anger if it's directed towards another white person.

[John Holberg]

Nope. Dangerous. No, don't play that game. Negative. Please.

[Brett]

Video that and send it to deeply, though, and we'll see how that works out.

[John Holberg]

I think that's. Yeah. Give me four examples. That's okay, General Akbar. Totally agree. Four examples where it's like, that Was. Okay. It's not a thing. You know, Remember when Trump did that thing? And now we're gonna talk about the N word. We all know the N word. And then somebody in the audience shouted it. Not that one. Nuclear. Like you know better. Don't do that. You set a guy up. No, no, no, no, my man. That's not what I meant. Nuclear. No, no, my man.

[Brett]

I love the setup party. Because he knew it was coming.

[John Holberg]

Of course. Now we're gonna talk about the N word. You like it? Get in there. Maybe it was Nicole Curtis. Oh, I know that one. Yep. Sorry. Rehab addict. No, what I meant to say wasn't nuclear. I shouldn't have done that. Yeah. Anyway. And I don't even remember what the rest of that speech was because everybody in the audience was like, whoops, I thought we were in a safe place. It's the N word, Nicole. That's right.

[Brett]

If you feel like you gotta say it, just write it down.

[John Holberg]

Worse down.

[Brett]

I've got time for that.

[John Holberg]

I'm not writing that word right after. We don't walk around with that written down. Or just hold it up like Wile E. Coyote. You got flashcards? Anyway, I feel bad for that girl, but what are you gonna do? Let's get a wake up song, shall we? 585 9, 800. A good one. And we will scream it together. It's 98 KUPD. Wake up. It's not weird. It's pretty cool, actually. No membership fees. I have heard enough of this.

[Commercial Voice]

This episode is brought to you by Progressive Insurance. Do you ever find yourself playing the budgeting game? Well, with a Name youe Price Tool from Progressive, you can find options that fit your budget and potentially lower your bills. Try [e-mail], progressive Casualty Insurance Company and affiliates. Price and coverage match limited by state law. Not available in all states.