02-12-26 - Thursdays w/Former Dallas Cowboy OLineman Dale Hellestrae - Dale's Thoughts On Super Bowl And How Cardinals Will Fare This Season - Ranting On NBA Players Taking Nights Off When Tickets Cost So Much

Summary

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Podcast Summary: Holmberg’s Morning Sickness (98KUPD)

Episode: 02-12-26 – Thursdays w/ Former Dallas Cowboy O-Lineman Dale Hellestrae

Date: February 12, 2026

Main theme:
A fast-paced, humorous discussion blending NFL Super Bowl recap, the Arizona Cardinals’ bleak outlook, NBA players’ “load management,” local sports frustration, and the state of Arizona teams. John Holmberg is joined by former Cowboy Dale Hellestrae to apply veteran football insight, personal rants, and banter to current headlines.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Super Bowl Recap and NFL Offseason (04:13–10:04)

• Dale on the NFL Calendar

  • Football is “12 months a year,” with free agency and mock drafts (04:25–05:20).
  • John jokes about being “charged with the responsibility of entertaining an entire nation.” (02:20)

• Super Bowl Quality

  • John Holmberg: “Either way, Super Bowl is mildly entertaining.” (07:32)
  • Dale Hellestrae: “If you don’t appreciate dominant defense, it was kind of a dud... It was a game until it wasn’t.” (08:13)
  • Critique of New England’s O-line and coaching for failing to adjust under heavy Seattle defensive pressure (08:13–09:13).
    • “You found out really quickly early that you can’t [block Lawrence]. What’s your plan B? And they didn’t have a plan B.” – Dale (08:54)

• Podcast Football Banter

  • Joking about a guest’s outlandish claim that Tommy DeVito could win a Super Bowl, highlighting podcast banter and fan delusion (06:31–07:06).

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2. Arizona Cardinals and NFC West Outlook (09:18–10:05)

• Dire Cardinals Prognosis

  • John and Dale agree the Cardinals are hopelessly behind in their division.
  • John: “They came in last place and third place was nine games ahead of them.” (09:18)
  • Dale: “None of those teams are getting worse. The Seahawks...are not paying anybody three to four more years.” (09:46–09:57)

• Comparison within NFC West

  • The Rams, Seahawks, and 49ers expected to remain strong, making recovery for the Cards even harder.

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3. Suns, NBA Load Management, and Fan Frustration (10:05–15:11)

• Bitter Rant on Resting Players

  • John, a season ticket holder, is irate over Suns and opponents benching stars before the All-Star break:
    • “People paid money to go to this stuff...a dad and his son, they can afford tickets to maybe two Suns games...” (11:29, 11:47)
    • “Devin Booker is resting for the All Star game and the three point shooting contest. He’ll play... He’ll play in the All Star game, and then he’ll probably sit out next Thursday.” – Dale (13:25)

• Comparison to 1990s NBA

  • Holmberg reminisces about big marquee games, where stars never rested for rest’s sake, and the implications for the value of tickets. (13:59–15:05)
  • Suggests teams should automatically refund or compensate fans if starters sit for “rest.” (15:04)

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4. Diamondbacks’ Injury Woes and Pessimism (15:26–19:11)

• Crushing News on Corbin Carroll
  • Corbin Carroll’s season possibly derailed by breaking his hand in spring training activities.
    • John: “The baseball season ended before Valentine’s Day for Diamondbacks fans. And that’s just ridiculous.” (18:42)
    • Dale on the injury: “He broke his hand. His hammy bone.” (16:47)
• General Tone:
  • Cynical about sports luck in Arizona—“We can’t have nice things” is a running theme. (18:41)
  • Doubt for a successful recovery or a good season due to multiple lingering injuries. (16:14–19:10)

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5. Podcast Banter & Personal Sports Fandom (19:10–22:00)

• Holmberg Talks about Cubs & Diamondbacks Fandom
  • Story about giving away his Cubs memorabilia for charity, which failed to sell at auction—“It was stuff that didn’t get bid on. Ernie Banks, really?” (20:13)
  • Playful ribbing between John and Dale about sports allegiances and Arizona’s luck.

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6. True Crime Distraction: Savannah Guthrie’s Mom Case (22:00–28:11)

• Holmberg’s Skepticism About the Case
  • Transitions from sports to national news: suspicious circumstances around the abduction of Savannah Guthrie’s mom.
  • John: "My BS meter’s gone off on a lot of news stories that later turned out to be [fake]... Jussie Smollett, Ryan Lochte..." (22:23)
  • Mocking media coverage and comparing a plea speech with one from Silence of the Lambs. (24:12–24:36)
• Dale’s Take
  • Dale: “Don’t you put tape around it and have police officers there until Dale knows the case is over with?” (23:45)
  • Jokes about the case’s odd timeline and evidence (“10 days later, they find a glove…” [28:00])
• General Satire
  • Suggests media and authorities are incompetent or manipulating the narrative (“This can’t be really how they’re going about this.” – Dale, 24:03).

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• “When you are charged with the responsibility of entertaining an entire nation, your app doesn’t work.”
  John Holmberg, 02:20

• “If you don’t appreciate dominant defense... it was kind of a dud.”
  Dale Hellestrae, 08:13

• “They came in last place and third place was nine games ahead of them.”
  John Holmberg, 09:18 (on the Cardinals)

• “That’s a marquee matchup. I remember...big games...you would pay $20 or $30...because those games meant too much. Kobe’s going to play.”
  John Holmberg, 13:59–14:31

• “This city can’t have nice things.”
  John Holmberg, 10:05, recurring theme throughout

• “Yes, we can’t even be excited in February. The baseball season ended before Valentine’s Day for the Diamondbacks fans.”
  John Holmberg, 18:42

• “Don’t you put tape around it and have police officers there until Dale knows the case is over with?”
  Dale Hellestrae, 23:45 (on the Guthrie case)

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Important Segments & Timestamps

| Timestamp | Segment | |-----------|------------------------------------------------| | 01:12–02:27 | Dale joins, comments on show’s ‘promotion’ and Brady’s absence | | 04:13–09:13 | Super Bowl recap and critique | | 09:18–10:05 | Arizona Cardinals’ dire outlook | | 10:05–15:11 | NBA/Suns: Load management rant, ticket cost | | 15:26–19:11 | Diamondbacks injuries and pessimism | | 19:10–22:00 | Cubs memorabilia, sports loyalty | | 22:00–28:11 | Savannah Guthrie’s mom case, media critique |

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Tone and Style

• Blunt, sarcastic, and self-deprecating—the hosts use humor and cynicism, riffing on Arizona sports failures, load management in the NBA, and conspiratorial takes on true crime news.
• Dialogues are rapid, with frequent interruptions, asides, and callbacks to running jokes.
• Dale brings a direct, former-player’s perspective, sometimes exasperated, sometimes playful.
• The conversation is accessible, entertaining for diehard sports fans and humor fans alike, with Arizona-specific references.

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Quick Reference: Episode Highlights

• Super Bowl Chat (04:13–09:13): Solid defense, underwhelming game, New England woes.
• Cardinals’ Struggles (09:18–10:05): Outclassed in stacked division, long rebuild ahead.
• NBA Load Management (10:05–15:11): Suns (and others) resting stars, screwing fans, nostalgia for 90s NBA.
• Diamondbacks Bad Luck (15:26–19:11): Corbin Carroll’s injury ends early optimism.
• Arizona Sports Woes: “We can’t have nice things” motif.
• True Crime Satire (22:00–28:11): Bizarre details, media mockery, speculation.

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This summary delivers the energetic and comedic spirit of the episode while thoroughly covering its main subjects—sports despair, fandom, and social commentary—offering a comprehensive and timestamped guide for both new and returning listeners.

Transcript

[John Holmberg]

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[Comedy Announcer]

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[Dale Hellstray]

You'Ve been deceived by an agent of Satan himself.

[John Holmberg]

There you go. Getting a lot of emails from people saying that they're watching. Other people know that they listen to KUPD because he says. Kevin says, I was just looking around the gym and I saw a dude spreading his cheeks. He's singing along. It's easy, Dale. We're going to get you to do little Michael McDonald impression for us before it's all over. Today you're taking Brady's chair.

[Dale Hellstray]

Today.

[John Holmberg]

You think this is a promotion? Dale thinks that he's. There's been an opening look at you in the new chair.

[Dale Hellstray]

That's ten minutes. My life. I'll never get back.

[John Holmberg]

None of us will.

[Dale Hellstray]

That was absolutely ridiculous.

[John Holmberg]

Awesome.

[Dale Hellstray]

This show goes to hell in a hand basket without Brady.

[John Holmberg]

It's only getting worse.

[Dale Hellstray]

Now Brady's a straw. That's right.

[John Holmberg]

He's the straw that stirs the drink. That's right. And luckily today he's not stirring it.

[Dale Hellstray]

Because he'd get us all a disease.

[John Holmberg]

Should have seen him yesterday. He was, oh, he looked horrible. And I don't know how he worse than normal.

[Dale Hellstray]

What is it with you guys? Bert's the only healthy one in this room.

[John Holmberg]

Look, when I, when my throat shuts down, I'm not coming in here and talking. I'm not going to do it.

[Dale Hellstray]

You had a little scratch.

[John Holmberg]

No, I had a. Yeah. And that's enough. That's enough for me to say, I can't entertain America today. When you have to.

[Dale Hellstray]

When you're.

[John Holmberg]

We have the. When you are charged with the responsibility of entertaining an entire nation, your app doesn't work. Well, that's true.

[Dale Hellstray]

Today you're entertaining Guadalupe.

[John Holmberg]

You make a strong point today. But again, that's not my fault. I still have the ambition and desire to entertain the entire.

[Dale Hellstray]

Yes.

[John Holmberg]

Whether or not anybody here pays for stuff to make it work, I don't know. Wow.

[Dale Hellstray]

Good morning, Josh.

[John Holmberg]

Good morning, Dale. Dale house trace back. You took last week off because it was super bowl week. And why do a sports segment on that? But he's here to recap it. We're going to get to that in a second. We'll get to Dale in just moments because we're going to do commercials first. That way you'll have more time.

[Dale Hellstray]

Hurry up and get in here.

[Dick Toledo]

I know.

[John Holmberg]

And you didn't. And now you're late. So now we have to get to work on this. Dale Hell, three time world champion, joins us next.

[Dale Hellstray]

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[John Holmberg]

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[Dale Hellstray]

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[John Holmberg]

All right, it's Thursday. Brady's sick and dying. But that doesn't mean we can't replace him with somebody who's even less healthy. It's Dale hell astray, everybody. Three time world champion and co host of the main event with Steve McCollum who I'm having lunch with later today.

[Dale Hellstray]

Yeah, Steve. He's a little nervous about that.

[John Holmberg]

Is he?

[Dale Hellstray]

Yeah.

[John Holmberg]

Why?

[Dale Hellstray]

Well, because he, he said John has a habit of talking about Personal things on his radio.

[John Holmberg]

What's he planning on doing?

[Dale Hellstray]

Well, he said I just can't do anything stupid. So now he's talking himself.

[John Holmberg]

See, that's, that's good. And that'll be exactly what happens. Then he'll do something stupid trying not to do. It's when you play to lose, you lose.

[Dale Hellstray]

Yes. And.

[John Holmberg]

Or play not to lose, you lose. So. Well, we'll talk about it then. Maybe next time. We got sports super bowl happen. Dale. And now we have no more football for what, five more months? That would be July.

[Dale Hellstray]

Yeah. Except for that the NFL does a nice job of, you know, because I know you and you'll be watching the underwear.

[John Holmberg]

Underwear Olympics are coming up in a week and I'm going to be going.

[Dale Hellstray]

To the mock drafts.

[John Holmberg]

Oh, I'm already on. Already on them. Well, there's. Well, see, this is where the confusion is is that the Steelers have a new coach and a new system.

[Dale Hellstray]

Right.

[John Holmberg]

And so normally what we would do in this particular case would be a draft defense, but I don't think we're going to do that. And they're looking at the receiver from Arizona State's been mentioned a couple of times.

[Dale Hellstray]

What when do pick 20th as usual. He's not going to be around.

[John Holmberg]

You don't think so?

[Dale Hellstray]

No.

[John Holmberg]

Well, we've got 13 picks, so there could be a trade involved.

[Dale Hellstray]

Getting 13 picks in a seven round draft.

[John Holmberg]

That's exactly right, Dale.

[Dale Hellstray]

Wow.

[John Holmberg]

A well run operation.

[Dale Hellstray]

Yeah, it is.

[John Holmberg]

So. Yeah. So Ty Simpson's on there. The guy from. There's a ton of things with that. So.

[Dale Hellstray]

So, so you got, you got here soon free agency opens up.

[John Holmberg]

Football's never. It's 12 months a year. Yes, it's awesome. But we have other things. You watched the Super Bowl. We talked about it on our podcast called that sports thing.

[Dale Hellstray]

No, it's your podcast.

[John Holmberg]

It's that sports thing. John Holmberg podcast. Finally, he acquiesces the John Holmberg joint to the John Holmberg podcast.

[Dale Hellstray]

Yes, sports is the topic from John being a guest.

[John Holmberg]

You know what we should do?

[Dale Hellstray]

They're going, hey, this thing's kind of good. Yeah. Now that not only is he the host, it's a John Holmberg podcast.

[John Holmberg]

I think about this now almost in a digital newspaper type of way. I may change the name of that.

[Dale Hellstray]

Oh.

[John Holmberg]

To John Holmberg Podcast. And then underneath would just be a click. Sports like. Like you're going through the newspaper.

[Dale Hellstray]

I don't even get any.

[John Holmberg]

It's almost like your op ed authors. So it's like The John over podcast is almost like the Arizona Republic. And then sport. You click on the sports section. Oh, and I give you Johnny.

[Dale Hellstray]

You go that route, you'll become the Washington Times. And then I'll have you understand me.

[John Holmberg]

I'm not going lefty.

[Dale Hellstray]

No, no. The sports department got shuttled, you' gone. They'll be out the air. Nobody cares what you think about sports.

[John Holmberg]

Well, that's not true because the podcast does pretty well. What they don't care about is what? You gotta listen to the podcast this week, Brett, because Dave Nash made a 40 minute plea that Tommy DeVito might be the next great thing. Yeah, and Italians will like hearing that, but. Yeah, but we know reality. I don't remember if this was the quote exactly. Dale, you can correct me, but I believe Dave on the podcast said that if he were to start a team today, his first pick would be Tom. I'm pretty sure that's.

[Dale Hellstray]

Well, I think he also said you could just interchange DeVito for SA. Yes. And Seattle would be the same.

[John Holmberg]

He said they'd win the super bowl with Tommy DeVito. And he wasn't being facetious, really. He was just saying that so it's.

[Dale Hellstray]

Worth talking Super Bowl. Yeah, talking super bowl. And literally two minutes into the conversation, he brings up Tommy DeVito. Yeah, it's like, what does Tommy DeVito had to do with the Super Bowl?

[John Holmberg]

Never sniffed it. And so I googled Tommy DeVito after. I wanted to text Nash on this. I googled him right after. And the first thing that came up on my Google search was a Reddit article that someone wrote said Tommy DeVito is the most overrated and worst Giants quarterback we have ever had.

[Dale Hellstray]

Really?

[John Holmberg]

And then it said, the hype train made this guy something. And I swear to God, watching the games is like he's never seen football in his life. But Dave Nash would put him in Sam Darnold's shoes and hopefully he thinks he could win a Super Bowl. Either way, super bowl is mildly entertaining. Exactly. That's. That's. It's. Awful is actually the word I shouldn't use.

[Dale Hellstray]

And then first half was. If you. If you like.

[John Holmberg]

Now here comes Toledo. He's going to argue.

[Dale Hellstray]

Oh, yeah. Oh, I thought it was commercial time already. No, he only comes in when I'm. Oh, good, continue. He's leaving.

[John Holmberg]

You just want to come in, make his presence felt, that his Seahawks are champs.

[Dale Hellstray]

Okay.

[John Holmberg]

Does a bad super bowl wreck a whole season? No, no, because this was one unbelievable season for games.

[Dale Hellstray]

And then, I mean, even the playoffs, you go through the playoffs and the super bowl was kind of a dud, especially if you don't appreciate dominant defense. And, you know, even there it was. It was. It was a game until it wasn't a game in the second half. Yeah. And Seattle just got out of. Got got out of hand. Things frustrate me, John, the fact that I look at it from an offensive lineman standpoint. Will Campbell, left tackle for New England, their left guard, they're overmatched. Yeah, I understand. You go in with a game plan. Hey, I think we might be able to block Lawrence. I think we might be able to block this guy. But you found out really quickly early that you can. Yeah. What's your plan B?

[John Holmberg]

They didn't have.

[Dale Hellstray]

And they didn't have a plan B.

[John Holmberg]

Which is shocking because of who's the coach.

[Dale Hellstray]

Yes. McCann, I think, is a really good offensive coordinator and Vrabel's a good coach. I'm surprised Variable didn't go, hey, hey, if Cavill's getting his ass whooped.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah.

[Dale Hellstray]

Well, what are we doing with that?

[John Holmberg]

Let's move somebody.

[Dale Hellstray]

Nothing.

[John Holmberg]

Put another body in there. Do something.

[Dale Hellstray]

You can motion a tyrannocrace. Something. Try something.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah. And.

[Shane Orlando]

Yeah.

[John Holmberg]

And so with football being over and. And kind of sitting there with the Seahawks on top, and the Seahawks are one of those things you just look at and you're like, all right, they're not going to be in trouble for a while. And then you go down the street here to the Cardinals and you realize, like you've always said, they came in last place and third place was nine games ahead of them.

[Dale Hellstray]

Yeah. Not. Not first place.

[Dick Toledo]

No.

[John Holmberg]

Third place.

[Dale Hellstray]

Second place.

[John Holmberg]

Third place. They were not. They were in a nine game gap.

[Dale Hellstray]

Yes. And none of those teams are getting worse.

[John Holmberg]

The Seahawks are going to get better and stay this way because their window has, I think, seven or eight rookie contracts.

[Dale Hellstray]

They're not paying anybody three to four more years. Yeah. This level of this.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah.

[Dale Hellstray]

The Rams with that coaching and the staffers going back in there and San Frisco, guess what? They'll get healthy.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah. For a while.

[Dale Hellstray]

Yeah.

[John Holmberg]

But still, the Cardinals are in dire straits in that division, and this is a bad time to try to start over. I mean, again, the hope is lost. So on that I go back to what Dale said a while ago. This city can't have nice things. The Suns last night, infuriating to season ticket holders like myself who this rest. Look, this is. This is frustrating. This is. No, no, this pisses me off. Happens two nights ago. They played Dallas and It was fun to watch Cooper flag.

[Dale Hellstray]

And by the way, to add insult to injury, Devin Booker played about 30.

[John Holmberg]

Minutes before they could have shut that team out and not played a whole fourth quarter against Dallas. But to Dallas's credit, they made a little run there and kind of kept a little close. It was a 30 point game for a lot and jumped back to seven.

[Dale Hellstray]

Back in the raw room. Yeah.

[John Holmberg]

Oh, we jammed out of the game. We went to the Rahrah Room at halftime. We're not coming out of here. Last night, you knew at 2 o' clock this was not even going to be a game. So you've got, you know, Booker's out, Greens out. Grayson Allen, Grayson Allen's out. They sat down their stars. Today the all star break starts. There are no games for 10 days and these guys were resting last night. Now, people paid money to go to this stuff.

[Dale Hellstray]

And some people don't have Holmberg money.

[Shane Orlando]

Right.

[Dale Hellstray]

You know, so.

[John Holmberg]

Well, you know what? Statistically, very few. 99%. That's a 1%.

[Dale Hellstray]

Yeah. Very few. You Epstein, someone. No.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah. Similar lives.

[Dale Hellstray]

But a dad and his son, they can afford tickets to maybe two sons games these days. Hey, we see Oklahoma City on the schedule. Let's go to that. We'll do dinner. It's a fun night, kid.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah. Back in August.

[Dale Hellstray]

Yes.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah.

[Dale Hellstray]

And all of a sudden you go, well, Oklahoma City is not playing SGA now. I don't know.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah.

[Dale Hellstray]

If he's really injured, he's not.

[John Holmberg]

He's playing in the All Star game.

[Dale Hellstray]

Okay. And. And then I. Because I turned the TV on last night and I see those three sitting together like three little class clowns. Now, I know Grayson Allen's hurt, so take him out of the equation. Right. He's actually the other two knuckleheads. I mean, Devin Booker, that was absolutely infuriating to me to see him sitting there, a little goofy grin on his face, and Jalen Green, who they're treating like he's a kindergartner and he's 23 years old.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah.

[Dale Hellstray]

John, at 23, did you need rest after playing 25 minutes? I.

[John Holmberg]

At 23, we would play four or five games a day.

[Dale Hellstray]

Yes.

[John Holmberg]

And break our ankles and play again the next day. It wasn't smart. It led to four massive surgeries in my life.

[Dale Hellstray]

But that's later on in life when.

[John Holmberg]

I didn't play every guy we played, like, if we weren't playing in a league, we were playing at a pickup games. We constantly played ball all the time.

[Dale Hellstray]

Four or five years ago, Jalen Green was playing AAU basketball or club basketball, and they're playing three games on a Saturday, two on a Sunday.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah, you got like a half hour rest. You got to do it again.

[Dale Hellstray]

He's 23.

[John Holmberg]

I know.

[Dale Hellstray]

And he played 20. 20 minutes the night before. Yep, 20. And then Devin Booker played 30 the night before against that vaunted Dallas team.

[John Holmberg]

Easing him back in.

[Dale Hellstray]

And I'm gonna concentrate on Devin Booker. Yeah, Devin Booker played, I think it was 29 or 30 minutes against Dallas. Probably didn't even have to play that much. And I turned the TV on and I see those two goofballs sitting next to each other and I said, are you kidding me? Are you kidding? Devin Booker is resting for the All Star game and the three point shooting contest. He'll play, I promise you he'll do the three point shooting contest. And I promise you he'll play in the All Star game and then he'll probably sit out next Thursday.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah, because he's, you know, he's worn out, gotta rest.

[Dale Hellstray]

Yeah, it is.

[John Holmberg]

It is frustrating as a season ticket holder to have games like that. That's a marquee matchup. That used to be. I remember when Colangelo used to own the team and he started the pay per views, and that was in the 90s, and he started pay per views, big games. So when the Seattle Sonics and Sean Kemp and Gary Payton played Barkley or the Lakers, you would pay $20 or 30 bucks for a Suns game at home. And we gladly did it because you never said, well, Barkley's not going to play because he's just resting. And it is because those games meant too much.

[Dale Hellstray]

Kobe's going to play.

[John Holmberg]

But remember, the standings were like they are now. You were fighting from usually the third to the 12th seed were within six or seven games of each other. You were jockeying for position all year. And now they. They don't even do that in April. They just kind of take the. It's so ridiculous. So, yeah, and you're right, you know, people who, who picked that game out in August should get it. You should. Everything's digital. So when you don't play the superstars, the ticket refunds you or gives you at least money to spend on food.

[Dale Hellstray]

Food, you know, merchandise.

[John Holmberg]

We didn't play any of our guys tonight. If, if four stars are out and they are just resting.

[Dale Hellstray]

Right.

[John Holmberg]

But I mean, they would manipulate that by saying, oh, he's got a tweaked ankle. Just monitoring it. But come on, if he played the night Back to backs. They can't play back to back games anymore.

[Dale Hellstray]

Not 20 minutes for Jalen Green and then 20 minutes. Another night. Now, at the end of the day, it wouldn't have made a difference.

[John Holmberg]

No, they're going to get killed.

[Dale Hellstray]

They were going to get killed, but.

[John Holmberg]

Still he's not playing.

[Dale Hellstray]

And the other thing it reminded me of, and I guess it's still fresh in my mind, is the fact that last year, All Star break in baseball. Yeah, our All Star could tell. Marte takes Sunday off before the All Star game. So he's rested and ready to go for the All Star game.

[John Holmberg]

That's upset, too.

[Dale Hellstray]

He's playing two innings.

[John Holmberg]

Well, here's the thing. Diamondbacks should rest. Their season is already over. Their season is already the hope lived in everybody recovering from last year's injuries. People forget that. What's his name? Lordis Goreal. No, Lourdes Goreal blew his knee out late last year. He's expected back in July. The pitcher, Corbin burns. Corbin Burns.

[Dale Hellstray]

A.J. puck.

[John Holmberg]

He was coming back.

[Dale Hellstray]

The other reliever.

[John Holmberg]

Oh, yeah.

[Dale Hellstray]

Yeah.

[John Holmberg]

Four or five guys had injuries last year that are bleeding into this year. But like, man, when they get back, this is going to be something to contend. Yesterday, Corbin Carroll bust his hand.

[Dale Hellstray]

And understand the significance of that. It's when pitchers and catchers were.

[John Holmberg]

What's he doing?

[Dale Hellstray]

He was showing he's hungry to get back.

[John Holmberg]

That's what the whole team has played together, evidently, all week. And like, what are you doing? Was it live batting practice? Is that what I heard? Did they get hit with a ball? That's what I heard. And broke his hand.

[Dale Hellstray]

And it broke his hand. His hammy bone.

[John Holmberg]

So it's that removable bone. It's a boxer's break, essentially.

[Shane Orlando]

Okay.

[John Holmberg]

Is when you hit heavy bags. Because I have that going on right now. When you hit a heavy bag wrong. There's this bone that's just above your wrist.

[Dale Hellstray]

Yeah. It's a little horseshoe. Yeah.

[John Holmberg]

And you can take it out. That's Ken Griffey had that done it almost. It almost ended his career. Because it's a floating bone in your hand that'll snap. And it hurts like you have no idea, but it doesn't do anything.

[Dale Hellstray]

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[John Holmberg]

It's John Holmberg here from the morning sickness, and I'm talking with my friend Shane Orlando from Orlando Auto Body. Here we are staring at a brand new year. You know what I just found out from insurance? They used to have low mileage cars. They don't do that anymore. And if you have a low mileage car deal with your insurance, it's more money when you hit somebody.

[Shane Orlando]

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[John Holmberg]

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[Dale Hellstray]

Bird's morning sickness. Whenever you get up and you turn on your computer, your phone, or whatever you do to check news. Yeah. And you see something like that, do I come right to your mind and go, dale's.

[John Holmberg]

Every time yesterday, when. When the news broke, Brett goes, oh, my God, Corbin Carroll just broke his hand. And I'm like, we can't have nice things, Dale.

[Dale Hellstray]

Hellstray.

[John Holmberg]

You can't even be excited in February. The baseball season ended before Valentine's Day for the Diamondbacks fans. And that's just ridiculous.

[Dale Hellstray]

It's.

[John Holmberg]

I mean, now what?

[Dale Hellstray]

Yeah.

[John Holmberg]

Now they have to scrap against the Dodgers.

[Dale Hellstray]

Wawa or Ta Da or whoever.

[John Holmberg]

Don't want to hear it. Yeah, yeah. Ta wahahawa. No, nothing. And everybody's gonna be like, it's okay. He's pretty good. Yeah. They're gonna have to just scramble, and then in September, they're gonna wear out.

[Dale Hellstray]

Let's give Lawler some time.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah.

[Dale Hellstray]

You've done that for the last two years. What's that? Gotcha. Nothing. I mean, you gotta go back to the Cubs. I think ever since you came to the Diamondbacks, it's been.

[John Holmberg]

They went to the World Series.

[Dale Hellstray]

Well, they. You didn't really come over until they got to the world, but I was.

[John Holmberg]

Making all the right calls.

[Dale Hellstray]

You know what?

[John Holmberg]

Dale's right. I'm a Cubs fan again. I'm back On. Can you buy all your stuff back? God damn it, I need my stuff back. All those charities I donated that to. I hope you haven't sold my. I want it back. Yeah, no, it's.

[Dale Hellstray]

I always gave you Craig. A lot of people go, I'm not cheering for them anymore. Yeah. And they slowly start cheering for. But you actually.

[John Holmberg]

You saw my sports bars void of cub stuff.

[Dale Hellstray]

Yeah. You got rid of stuff.

[John Holmberg]

I gave it to charity. Well, the news showed up at my house. Troy Hayden was there with cameras saying, what are you doing?

[Dale Hellstray]

Is Troy Hayden really the news?

[John Holmberg]

He's the news. Troy's a good dude.

[Dale Hellstray]

He's the new. I'm not saying he's not a good dude, but he's also your buddy.

[John Holmberg]

It wasn't at the time I got to know. I mean, I knew him, but we've gotten to be friendly after that. But he came to the house and he's. And he filmed my Ernie Banks thing. Oh, I wish I got that back. I had an autographed Ernie Banks. Did you get rid of that? Well, I gave it to charity. I had to stash that. No, that's. See, that's not.

[Dale Hellstray]

What's that? Look who's a charity. Is this your wife's charity?

[John Holmberg]

No, this was a. No, that would have been a smart move to keep it in the family Swiss bank account. No, this was a. I gave it to Lost Our home Pet rescues charity auction.

[Dale Hellstray]

Okay. Did you raise some decent money?

[John Holmberg]

I didn't pay attention, didn't care. I had. I just had to let it go. Whatever they got, they got. I had to let it go. It was very depressing, though, because. Oh, this. This part hurts. I don't even like saying it. So they. They had it at a charity auction, and then about three months later, I'm going through the Lost our home pet rescue for one of the picket litter weeks. And I looked in an office and I saw it there leaning on a wall. It was stuff that didn't get bit on Ernie Banks. Ernie Banks. Really see them there, Right there. So they said, we're gonna put it. We're gonna put it in the next one. And they did it on the next one and got money.

[Dale Hellstray]

But were they asking too much?

[John Holmberg]

I don't know if there was people who just didn't get it. I don't know which auction they put it up on.

[Dale Hellstray]

You think there were people that are going, who's Ernie Banks?

[John Holmberg]

Yes, I do. I think it was some sort of weird. I don't know if they had, like, you know, Some DND convention or something? Maybe it was just a charity raising money for lesbians with blind cats. That, I mean, like, I don't even know.

[Dale Hellstray]

What's a D and D convention?

[John Holmberg]

Dungeons and Dragons.

[Dale Hellstray]

Don't look at me. Know what that means? Well, you grew up with dragons.

[John Holmberg]

Didn't Gulliver have dragons? And I think Dale was there. Like, you're one of the characters in Dungeons and you're the one with the big. Yeah, they tell stories about people like you two.

[Dale Hellstray]

I thought D and D would stand for something else.

[John Holmberg]

Oh, that's because you're a pervert. We're normal humans. This isn't Katie. KB Hey, Dale. What do you think of Savannah Guthrie's mom?

[Dale Hellstray]

What?

[John Holmberg]

What?

[Dale Hellstray]

We go from deep.

[John Holmberg]

Are you paying attention to anything in the world?

[Dale Hellstray]

Yeah.

[John Holmberg]

You know what's going on down there? What do you think?

[Dale Hellstray]

If you're asking me my opinion, I, I, I think that the, the son in law.

[John Holmberg]

You think the family has something to do with it? I think the daughter's doing something I'm starting to believe.

[Dale Hellstray]

Man, you, you haven't even seen this guy, though. I mean, Tomaso or.

[John Holmberg]

Oh, yeah, that guy. Yeah, I, I don't, I, I, at first. Well, I still think it was, it's all arranged. I think it's gotten so clumsy that it's fake. But I also think now that it's going to be an illegal immigrant because have you noticed that since we started this fake news story, this is Nash rubbing off on me. But since this fake news story started. No, it's not this fake news story. I've been good at this for years. I've been. I've been. I'm not saying you're wrong, but it is a little Nash. It is a little Nash. But my BS meter's gone off on a lot of news stories that later turned out to be like, oh, you're right. Oh, Jussie Smollett, Ryan Lochte, all these things. When you're like, that doesn't add up. Like, at first blush, it doesn't add up. And then it gets worse. So, you know, nobody cares about the dead people in Minnesota anymore. Since this started, the news doesn't even pay attention.

[Dale Hellstray]

Oh, I see where you're going.

[John Holmberg]

All this stuff is this manufactured. Like, look over here for a second. We screwed everything. Both sides screwed up everything up in Minnesota. Now it's over. There's two dead people that everybody cared about. A week and a week and a half ago, there were marches. Marches in every city in America.

[Dale Hellstray]

That's true.

[John Holmberg]

And they're like, ah, they're killing people. Don't you dare. Like, the democracy's over. It's like, what, Savannah Guthrie's mom's missing. Oh, we don't care about this anymore. Democracy is just fine.

[Dale Hellstray]

And 10 days have gone by. Yeah. And they've released house and they released property. And then they come back two days later.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah.

[Dale Hellstray]

It's like none of that adds up. Don't you put tape around it and have police officers there until Dale knows the case is over with?

[John Holmberg]

Dale goes to NFL doctors on a weekly basis to see how is he still alive. And it's so elementary to even you.

[Dale Hellstray]

It's like they. They. This can't be really how they're going about this.

[John Holmberg]

It's on my brain a lot. Yeah. And then did you see, you know the movie Silence of the Lambs?

[Dale Hellstray]

Yeah.

[John Holmberg]

You're familiar with that. Did you see the video of that where the speech that Savannah Guthrie gave to say, I miss my mom. She's smart, she's kind. Talk to her. You'll see. And then you play this, the scene where the senator is begging for her daughter's life in silence. The Lambs. It's the same speech. No, it's the same speech. No, it's the same thing.

[Dale Hellstray]

And it's like.

[John Holmberg]

It's exactly. I saw it when I watched it because I have. Silence of the Lambs is memorized in my head. I know every line from that movie.

[Dale Hellstray]

Well, that initial interview, I'm looking at the brother going, what? What's up with him?

[John Holmberg]

And then who goes up to a house with that much preparation to kidnap an old lady and goes, oh, camera. And then they stare at it and then go pick flowers. By the way, the last thing you want to do is kidnap an 85 year old person.

[Dale Hellstray]

You want one? Bitcoin.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah, unless. Yeah, unless your family member and you know her medicine schedule and you know.

[Dale Hellstray]

How do you think they took the medicine?

[John Holmberg]

I thought they said they didn't. Well, no.

[Dale Hellstray]

Well, you can get refills.

[John Holmberg]

Well, yeah, but still, bottom line is they took an 85 year old with needs.

[Dale Hellstray]

Yeah.

[John Holmberg]

Nobody's doing that. If I broke into your house and I'm like, I'm gonna steal a person. Let's say the only one in there was 85. And I'll do it tomorrow. I'll come back to those relevant people here. I'm not gonna listen to her about how cold it is every day for the next. You're the victim. If you've got an 85 year old woman who doesn't want to be in your house. That's. They're terrible. After 80.

[Dale Hellstray]

Human beings are the worst. Nobody showed anything about the drop off. Supposedly after they make mom way mode to their house for dinner.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah.

[Dale Hellstray]

What was a mile and a half?

[John Holmberg]

They wouldn't even pick her up.

[Dale Hellstray]

No.

[John Holmberg]

Oh, it's good stuff. See, this is what we got to talk about. Now that sports is over, now that football's over. Did you find it? I think this is it. All right, let's see. Like, this is. This is abs. It's full of kindness and knowledge. Talk to her and you'll see. Catherine is very gentle and kind. Talk to her and you'll see. How about that? She's full of kindness. It's. It's the same speech. And I understand that maybe the FBI hands over a template, but once a movie does it, you've got to change it.

[Dale Hellstray]

You've got to change the speech.

[John Holmberg]

Don't you Scorsese delete on this case down there or what? I mean, here's your script. It's. It's interesting. You think it's a family member.

[Dale Hellstray]

And the other thing is you never. Which one's the USA Today or the. The host today?

[John Holmberg]

Oh, the Today show host. There's no USA Today. Is that Savannah Guthrie?

[Dale Hellstray]

Yeah, Savannah. Because I didn't know who she.

[John Holmberg]

Mom is Nancy.

[Dale Hellstray]

Okay. And then the sister. Somebody else. But you haven't seen either husband of the sisters.

[John Holmberg]

I saw it when. That's in that speech she gave one of them sitting by.

[Dale Hellstray]

No, that's her brother. Oh, it is? Yeah.

[John Holmberg]

I didn't know that.

[Dale Hellstray]

I haven't seen either, either. Wouldn't you if you're. Well, I don't know. You're not the right guy to ask, but if your wife's mother got abducted and it was this dire, would you not be by her side when she's talking to the media at least once? Would you not be there giving her support at least once?

[John Holmberg]

Would I be back from the party in 10 days? It's the old Patrice O' Neill thing. He said, if you, like, a man would be like every guy. He's a comedian, he's great. But it's like your wife disappears and he's like, after two or three days, you're like, man, something's different. I haven't seen her. I've been having a lot of fun for like 72 hours. Nobody's yelled at me. And like, oh, they're gonna think I did this. So you gotta whip up Some tears and act like. But I think the fam. I don't think Savannah's in it. I think something in the family they know. And they were gonna. Because they know Savannah's got money outside. Is there money? Is the old broad have money? She got a nice place. This is a nice. Bought a Tucson.

[Dale Hellstray]

All of a sudden, 10 days later, they find a glove.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah. And O.J. was nowhere to be. Yeah. There's gloves in the road.

[Dale Hellstray]

Yeah.

[John Holmberg]

Come on.

[Dale Hellstray]

Just off.

[John Holmberg]

Off the rubble. Come on. How dumb do they think we are?

[Dale Hellstray]

Well, evidently, there's a lot of people.

[John Holmberg]

Falling for it because Dale Hellestray is making more sense. That scares the hell out of me. Good Lord. You got a guy with head trauma going. This doesn't add up. And normally that's just. All right. I can't get enough. And Corbin Carroll's broken, so I got no baseball season. Basketball. Everybody's sitting down. We need to. We need more of this stuff going on to keep your segment interesting.

[Dale Hellstray]

Although I did cash some money a couple days ago.

[John Holmberg]

How much.

[Dale Hellstray]

To pay for what I'm not getting?

[John Holmberg]

Oh, I thought it was a bet.

[Dale Hellstray]

Yeah, it was. I took the Suns in the over 31 and a half.

[John Holmberg]

Oh. So I've been throwing bets out. Over and 31 and a half.

[Dale Hellstray]

I got that before the season started. Oh.

[John Holmberg]

For wins. I thought you meant last night. I'm like, oh, my God, what a bet that had to be.

[Dale Hellstray]

Now 31 and a half wins.

[John Holmberg]

I thought you gave a 31 and.

[Dale Hellstray]

A half before the All Star game.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah, yeah, that's. That's pretty good. Well, yeah, I don't bet nobody's. No, no. Which $10 you want? About 74 bucks. How much did you get on that Alhatcha, Jack? You know how much you got? Give me a ballpark. How much did you bet?

[Dale Hellstray]

I bet 25.

[John Holmberg]

25 and the. And so it was probably like a plus 300.

[Dale Hellstray]

I think it was a hundred. 112.

[John Holmberg]

Oh, that's nothing. So.

[Dale Hellstray]

Oh, yeah, I know it's nothing for you, but at least I had a little comp. Did you take the sons in the over?

[John Holmberg]

Huh? Yeah, that was an easy one. I don't know. Thousands. Thousands. Philip makes a good point. So, John, did you just say a nice place in Tucson? Yeah, I mean, for Tucson, it's all. All things relative. It's a dump.

[Dale Hellstray]

Catalina foothills. That's a pretty part of Tucson.

[John Holmberg]

Okay. Yeah, the toilets are a pretty part of Tucson. There's nothing good. It's. It's a. It's a 1 out of 10 at its best.

[Dale Hellstray]

You didn't go to ASU. Why. Why do you hate.

[John Holmberg]

Have you been to Tucson?

[Dale Hellstray]

Yeah.

[John Holmberg]

That's enough to hate it.

[Dale Hellstray]

I've been up in the foothills where those resorts are pretty nice.

[John Holmberg]

You know what I've been. I leave and go past those foothills and head on up to Phoenix where there's normal stuff, a nice city. I don't want to be anywhere.

[Dale Hellstray]

Or you head to El Paso or.

[John Holmberg]

El Paso is Tucson's turds. Albuquerque. El Paso and Tucson are like triplets. They're like retarded triplet cities of each other. Anyway, Dale, illustrate. Three time world champion and a guest on the John Holmberg sports podcast. Be [e-mail] I don't know if that's right or not. It's made it up. People want the word one more time.

[Dale Hellstray]

Oh, yeah.

[John Holmberg]

The nine o' clock word is frail.

[Dale Hellstray]

What are you giving away here, John?

[John Holmberg]

Sweet to Nine Inch Nails. A band called Nine Inch Nails. You don't know Nine Inch Nails?

[Dale Hellstray]

I don't know any other songs.

[John Holmberg]

You probably know. You know. You know Closer Pulled up here.

[Dale Hellstray]

Closer.

[John Holmberg]

Closer. You know you do. I wanna f you like an animal.

[Dale Hellstray]

No, I don't listen to that. Yes, you do. No, I don't.

[Shane Orlando]

Yeah.

[John Holmberg]

Here, this. You know this song, Ratner. Penetrate you. You let me penetrate you. Dale.

[Dale Hellstray]

You don't know. This is nine Inc. Yeah.

[John Holmberg]

This is a. They're huge.

[Dale Hellstray]

This is a rock.

[John Holmberg]

Oh, yeah, it is. I broke apart my.

[Dale Hellstray]

This is synthesizer.

[John Holmberg]

Well, yeah, it's a Texas, not the radio version, so be careful.

[Dale Hellstray]

Oh, it is.

[John Holmberg]

It's not.

[Dale Hellstray]

You don't know this? No, never heard it. And by now I turn it off anyway.

[John Holmberg]

You would have. You know this. You're listening. Big line right there.

[Dale Hellstray]

Yeah.

[John Holmberg]

You know this.

[Dale Hellstray]

You and do you guys play this on this station? Oh, yeah. I wonder why you're rating.

[John Holmberg]

That's a gem. It's a classic. We're giving away a suite to that. So the word is frail. We got the entertainment drill coming up in just moments. It's 98 KUPD. Hey, it's not weird. It's pretty cool, actually. No membership fee. I have heard enough of this. It's John Holberg here from the Morning Sickness and I'm sitting with shane orlando from orlandoautobody.com. you see somebody with a dinged up car and you kind of feel like, why don't you get that fixed? What do you find is the reason most people don't come to you and get their car fixed when it needs to be fixed.

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[John Holmberg]

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[Shane Orlando]

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[John Holmberg]

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[John Holmberg]

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[John Holmberg]

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[John Holmberg]

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[John Holmberg]

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[Dick Toledo]

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[John Holmberg]

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[Dale Hellstray]

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