02-16-26 - What Videos Would They Use From Brady's IG For His Murder Doc - Glendale Woman Hires Hitman - BO

Summary

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Podcast Summary: Holmberg's Morning Sickness – Arizona

Episode Title: What Videos Would They Use From Brady's IG For His Murder Doc – Glendale Woman Hires Hitman – BO
Date: February 16, 2026
Cast: John Holmberg, Brady Bogen, Brett Vesely, Dick Toledo, Eric

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Episode Overview

This episode of Holmberg's Morning Sickness is a raucous, irreverent dive into the modern obsession with social media videos—specifically, how mundane personal content becomes fascinating only when tragedy or crime explodes into the story (think: “murder doc footage”). The guys riff on Brady's supposedly boring Instagram videos, the uncomfortable social consequences of people oversharing kid/dog/kid’s owl encounter footage, and the rise of amateur video as stock material for true crime documentaries. The conversation pivots to a wild Arizona murder-for-hire case, complete with love triangles and gender transitions, showing real life outpacing old soap operas for dramatic content. The tone is sarcastic, darkly humorous, and at times brutally honest.

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Key Discussion Points

1. Personal Videos: Why Are They Always Boring? Until…

• Holmberg rails against the phenomenon of parents oversharing kid videos and animal encounters, arguing nobody outside the immediate family cares until tragedy strikes.
• The group teases Brady about his nature and eating videos on Instagram, suggesting they'd only gain widespread interest if he were murdered and the clips got used in a future documentary:
  • “You walking through the park as a sad old man filming animals that don’t want anything to do with you is boring… until someone cuts your head off.” (Holmberg, 03:55)
• The conversation lampoons what would make anyone’s personal footage documentary-worthy, with Holmberg and Brett suggesting only “drawn and quartered” content or grizzly murder can make them viral.

Notable Quotes

• 03:27 – Holmberg: "Until your head falls off, that video will remain boring."
• 03:53 – Holmberg: "You, sir, are guilty of–you just became the weirdo at the public pool with a hard on."
• 07:51 – Holmberg: "All people's videos of themselves doing stuff is boring unless something drastically crazy happens… like your head gets lopped off."
• 13:44 – Holmberg: "Nobody’s videos themselves in them are good. If you’re in it, it's automatically boring. Unless…"

2. Social Rituals & Why Showing Kid/Dog Videos is Social Suicide

• The team examines how people (especially parents) become unaware of how dull their family footage is to others.
• Brett mentions his ability to “dead-face” through boring stories, exemplifying the pain of being shown such content.
  • “I've never once been at a dinner where I'm like, great, somebody’s whipping out photos of their children.” (Holmberg, 02:43)
• They joke that sharing photos at social functions is why parents cluster together (e.g., Gilbert, AZ stereotype) where shared interest in each other's kids is all that's left.
• Discussion of dog pics vs. kid pics: dog pics are always more enjoyable to outsiders.

Quotes & Moments

• 05:30 – Brett: "Does any look on my face make you think I want to see this?"
• 06:28 – Holmberg: "Most people break out pictures of their kids and they've got a bad haircut or they're just gross and nobody's interested."

3. What Makes Murder Docs Great: Ordinary Footage Turned Macabre

• Extended riff on how videos that would have received no attention suddenly become riveting when the subject is murdered.
• Gabby Petito’s case is used as an example where travel vlogs only became binge-worthy after her killing.
  • “Let Gabby Petito be your guide. Her videos were horrible.” (Holmberg, 19:03)
• They delight in the sarcastic suggestion that TikTok and social media are a goldmine for future documentarians, needing only a juicy crime to make the most banal content historically significant.
• “The only person not going to see how much attention you're getting is you—get your head lobbed off.” (Holmberg, 30:41)

Quotes

• 27:37 – Holmberg: “Now the documentarian just goes, all right, let’s see their social media. I can build a documentary without even starting a camera.”
• 30:41 – Holmberg: "You get your head lobbed off, suddenly everybody's seeing your family photo album."

4. Arizona Murder-for-Hire Case: Soap Opera Meets True Crime

• Holmberg unpacks a recent bizarre Arizona murder-for-hire trial:
  • Kimberly Lecount allegedly convinces her secret lover, Kipling Harris, to kill her spouse, Alex Kuhn (a transitioned female-to-male). Parents get involved; chaos, murder, and courtroom drama ensue.
  • The group is fascinated by all the soap opera elements: love triangles, transitions, elaborate plotting.
  • Brett and Eric struggle to follow the family tree, needing a “Madden chalkboard” to map it all out.
  • Extended lampooning of secret lovers, gender transitions, and true crime tropes.

Quotes & Memorable Moments

• 22:38 – Holmberg: “You need to break out the Madden chalkboard to follow that along.”
• 23:42 – Holmberg: “This was a woman dressed as a man married to a woman who had a boyfriend named Kipling… And all the names are so…”
• 26:54 – Eric: "Hopefully Netflix is already on it."
• 27:37 – Holmberg: “The best thing that’s ever happened...all this TikTok and nonsense with people posting photos and videos is that future murder documentaries, you’ve done all the work for the documentarian.”

5. Cultural Commentary: The Strange Rewards of Tragedy and Oversharing

• Running theme: Meaningless content only gains value via tragedy or infamy.
• Critique of a social age obsessed with documenting every moment, making everyone unintentionally ready for a true crime doc.
• Self-deprecating confession: Even on-air personalities like the hosts admit their material only escapes mediocrity because of their jobs—not because it's genuinely interesting.

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Timestamps for Key Moments

| Segment | Topic | Timestamp | |---------|-------|-----------| | "Nobody wants to see your kid videos" riff | 01:08 – 08:03 | | The “dead face” discussion & social awkwardness | 05:30 – 06:26 | | “Your personal footage needs a murder to go viral” | 03:27 – 07:51 | | Mocking Brady’s wildlife/eating vids | 03:55 – 14:36 | | Arizona triple murder-for-hire case deep dive | 16:52 – 26:54 | | Social media, vlogging, and murder docs | 27:37 – 31:29 | | Gabby Petito and the goldmine of crime footage | 29:15 – 30:41 | | Final reflection on the triviality of personal content | 31:29 – 32:23 |

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Notable Quotes

• John Holmberg (03:27): “Until your head falls off, that video will remain boring. You know what that is right there in the animal kingdom? You just became the weirdo at the public pool with a hard on.”
• Brett Vesely (05:30): “And also, does any look on my face make you think I want to see this? What the hell is wrong?”
• John Holmberg (07:51): “All people's videos of themselves doing stuff is boring unless something drastically crazy happens unexpectedly while you're doing. If you're taping an owl and walking through a park, I'm telling you right now, you're boring the world, period.”
• John Holmberg (13:44): “Nobody’s videos themselves in them are good. If you’re in it, it's automatically boring. Unless…”
• Eric (26:54): “Hopefully Netflix is already on it.”
• John Holmberg (30:41): “You get your head lobbed off, suddenly everybody's seeing your family photo album, pictures of you. They've seen old videos of you… things that would have bored people to tears when you were alive are now of the utmost importance.”

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Podcast Tone and Style

• Tone: Sarcastic, blunt, sometimes darkly comical, happy to push boundaries on taste.
• Language: Candid and often crude, with recurring bits about “boring videos,” “getting your head chopped off,” and “nobody cares unless it’s tragic.”
• Dynamic: Hosts riff off each other, often turning jokes on the absent Brady, escalating scenarios for comedic effect.

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Final Thoughts

The episode skewers society’s need to overshare and the perverse reality that only murder, mayhem, or crisis turn private moments into something “interesting” to the masses. Through extended, irreverent banter and dissecting a real-world Arizona murder-for-hire case, the hosts make a point: most of us only become fascinating—both in life and online—if something horrifying and headline-grabbing happens, at which point even our most boring personal videos get millions of views.

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For listeners who missed the episode, this summary provides all the sharp-edged humor, social critique, and Arizona true crime intrigue without any of the commercials or dead time.

Transcript

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[John Holmberg]

There's more of the best of homework's morning sickness. 98kupd like, do you think that if you didn't have this job that any video you have ever done with Kirby at all is interesting to anyone in the world outside of your mother? Do you think you there. People do this all the time? Here's pictures of my kids. Here's a video of my kid. It is a death sentence.

[Eric]

Yeah, you do it. You. You do it for the kid. You know, the thought is, oh, when.

[John Holmberg]

They get maybe older, then stop showing it to normal people at dinners. That's why people who don't have kids stop hanging out with people who do have kids is because people with kids. Brett, you can back me on this. People with kids don't know how to communicate, and before you know it, somebody's showing a photo of their child, and it's like, oh, my God, please stop doing that. Oh, here's blah, blah, blah at the. Here's blah, blah, blah at the botanical.

[Eric]

Definitely easier at the hand, but at the same time, there's a A lot of that. That transitions. Change from the kids, you know? Let me see a picture of your dogs. Let me see a picture.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah. No, I want that stuff. Nobody wants, but I don't think they do.

[Eric]

The. The days of where they're like, you're sitting down there, like, check the. This video out.

[John Holmberg]

You don't have to. Now you have it in. And. And people don't. Parents don't realize how boring they've become when they're. When they look and they're like, do you want to see a bunch of videos of my kids standing there? No. Not a soul outside of you is interested in them. Nobody. Grandma and the parents. You don't ever want to see that.

[Brett Vesely]

No.

[John Holmberg]

I've never once been at a dinner where I'm like, great, somebody's whipping out photos of their children. This is.

[Eric]

My brother puts a compilation together once a year. It's at Christmas, and it's.

[Brett Vesely]

But you don't think people want to see this.

[John Holmberg]

There's Brady murder stuff. Brady's head gets lopped off. This video gets interesting right there, because you know what it would turn into is Brady zooms in on an owl. He sees at and. And disturbs, by the way, the owl was fine. Brady's getting closer.

[Eric]

Here he goes back to his burrow.

[John Holmberg]

No, he was in his burrow. He was enjoying.

[Eric]

There's the burrow.

[John Holmberg]

Whatever. He was enjoying life in the grass.

[Brett Vesely]

He was sunning himself.

[John Holmberg]

You know what you were.

[Eric]

Yeah, I bothered him.

[John Holmberg]

You know what you were A fat.

[Brett Vesely]

For you, gu. No, thanks.

[John Holmberg]

Right? And until your head falls off, that video will remain boring. You know what that is right there in the animal kingdom. You just became the weirdo at the public pool with a heart on. Everybody's in their seats going, oh, God, he's getting close to me. Run. Get underground. But until you die.

[Eric]

That was a burrowing owl, not a brown bear.

[John Holmberg]

Not interested.

[Eric]

Saw one of those the other day.

[John Holmberg]

I'm gonna cut your head off. Not interested.

[Brett Vesely]

I have the videos ready for the documentary.

[John Holmberg]

Not interested. You walking through the park as a sad old man filming animals that don't want anything to do with you is boring until someone cuts your head off. You, sir, are guilty of. And you know what the headline would say? Retarded radio man. Because they'd watch the video. They'd be like, oh, they wouldn't use that word. Okay. A mentally disturbed jackass. You're right. They wouldn't call you a radio man. There's no way. They'd listen to that and be like, oh, he's a. Make a wish.

[Eric]

Just retarded.

[John Holmberg]

Retarded man tries to attack owl has a head chopped off. Like, oh, oh. Let's see the video of the owl now. And then you hear the mentally challenged down syndrome. Look at him in the. He's sitting in the grass as owls. He's going back to his home. I made him upset my head. Yeah. Nobody wants to see videos. I was, I saw my uncle for the first time in a while yesterday. He's popped on. They're kind of out of the blue. Popped into town. So I hung out with him for a little bit. You know what we didn't do once? Break out our phones and show each other children. His lady friend asked me if I had dogs and then wanted to see a picture because she used to have a bulldog. So I showed her bus and then I put it right back. If you ask, I'll show you. But people don't really mean it with kids. No, dogs are more like. Dogs are funnier than your children. Your children. Most of the time. Here's what people think when they look at your picture. Your kids. Wow, that's an ugly kid. Most of the time. That is like 90% of kids are ugly going the wrong direction. 90% of humanity is ugly.

[Brett Vesely]

And also, does any look on my face make you think I want to see this? What the hell is wrong?

[John Holmberg]

And for those of you who don't know, Brett can go dead face better than maybe anyone I've been with Brett when somebody's killing him with a story that and it's probably Brady, but it's a story that just is going nowhere. And Brett's eyes, I see his dead.

[Eric]

Face all the time.

[John Holmberg]

I bet you do think that's his normal face.

[Eric]

Yeah.

[John Holmberg]

Like I have seen. I have been with Brett when somebody's killing us with a story. And not only will you dead face in the middle, Brett will just go oh my own. Then he'll just like your story will get punched by Brett. I have time for this. I. I can play pretend for a little bit and then talk about you later. Jesus Christ. That guy showed me one more pictures with goddamn ugly ass kids. Most of you have to realize that your children are hideous ugly little beasts. Don't show us pictures of your kids or they're weird looking and we're going to make fun of that later.

[Eric]

Not my little Kaden.

[John Holmberg]

I remember there was a lady who had like, she looked like she was from Narnia and she goes, my daughter, blah blah blah. And I'm like, oh God. But I didn't do Brett's dead face. I didn't do a maron. And she breaks out her phone and her daughter is the hottest thing I've ever seen. And I'm like. But the story there was, you didn't. That's not your DNA. You're a surrogate, right? Most people break out pictures of their kids and they've got a bad haircut or they're just gross and nobody's interested. And your kids aren't funny unless your or their heads get lopped off. Then suddenly I want to watch all the videos of your kids. I mean, Brady's Instagram feed is a perfect example of while you're alive, your. Your videos of you doing stuff. Boring. Boring. That poor owl just sitting there. What are you doing, jackass? I'm just in the grass. Sunny myself. I'm gonna approach him slowly and oddly. Ugh, this prick. I wanted to stay out for a little bit, but I can't. Asshole. You know that owl just looked at you from the burrow. I hope someone lobs his head on. Then I'll be Internet famous. It's true. That's why parents all move to Gilbert together. Because they realize that no one's. Everybody's dead facing them. They're like, what happened? And they go to Gilbert and everybody's wide eyed and happy and like, we don't know how to behave either. Here's photos of my children. Here's a bunch of pictures of my. My kid's as good as your kid.

[Eric]

I don't know very many guys that do it to other guys. It's just you don't do it all that often, right? Well, it's mostly the women that are.

[John Holmberg]

Get them together.

[Brett Vesely]

Some guys do.

[Eric]

Like, I would never.

[Brett Vesely]

I mean, I don't hang out with pussies like that.

[John Holmberg]

But I don't know, you start breaking out photos of your kids and like, you got nothing to talk about, do you? This guy says, I'm not even interested in my own kids videos. When my wife shows me. I've been there. I was there. I've seen it myself. Why do I need to relive this dude's got the greatest name of all time. That comes from Hoffmeister. Thank you, Hoffmeister. Yeah. If you're. If your wife and it's. And you know who's to blame about this is the husband. When the wife, when she breaks that phone out, you say, hey, hey, hey, hey. We're in. We're in mixed company of people. Nobody Wants to see our ugly ass kid. Put the phone down, buddy. She was dancing. Nobody. Nobody wants to see that unless she gets kidnapped. Now, if you broke the phone out and said our daughter's been missing for two years, I'm gonna watch all sorts of dumb, boring videos of your dumbass, ugly daughter. I'm not looking for her. Probably like, this is tragic. We don't let you know. And still Brett would go, I don't own videos of kids. It's true. Yeah, it's up to the husband to tell the wife. No, no, no, no, no, Nobody. This, this. You're the least interesting person in the world right now. Oh, shut up, Roger. People love looking at our kids. No, you're lost. This is why we live in Gilbert. We're not allowed to hang out with normal people anymore. We're only allowed to the people who I have children. Photo evidence. Me too. Photo evidence. Nobody needs to see that.

[Brett Vesely]

I'd Tom Brady her phone if she started breaking out pictures and stuff. That's it.

[John Holmberg]

Done.

[Brett Vesely]

Yeah, you want the new iPhone 16?

[John Holmberg]

Here you go.

[Brett Vesely]

Cause I'm smashing this son of a guy again, though.

[John Holmberg]

Hang on to him. Just don't show them to anybody. And if anybody wants to get Brady 20 million views, you know what to do. We have to find part of him in one part of the city and another part in another part of the city to make any of his videos. Good. Mary, we're looking at you. Brady's murder has. Brady's murder can't be just a gunshot. To make his videos interesting, in order for you to get 7 to 10 million views, you. Your story has to be like. You have to be drawn and quartered. We have to find bits and pieces of you all over the place. Because otherwise you're going to get shot. And people watch some of your videos and go, good. But you have to have an interesting murder for your videos to be interesting, because you and praying mantis and the bee and the mother owl. Oh, and that's not just Bash and Brady. Most you have a boring Instagram page. God forbid you show anything you've eaten. Here's me chopping up some celery. Oh, but again, there's a good chance if that chopping up celery video gets 7 million views. Turns out your head got cut off by that same knife. Oh, here's Brady.

[Brett Vesely]

Pictures of eating.

[John Holmberg]

Eating. There you go.

[Brett Vesely]

There's pictures of him eating. Wow.

[Eric]

Eric's family barbecue.

[John Holmberg]

Oh, my. Oh, nobody could pot. Oh, Brady's the only one that ever ate anything. So we might as well.

[Eric]

That lasted a long time.

[John Holmberg]

Document that. That. Wow. A human that ate something.

[Eric]

We've got the mama over here.

[John Holmberg]

It's a bird.

[Eric]

Little chap.

[John Holmberg]

I'm cutting your head off.

[Eric]

You hear the golf teeth? And there are her eggs.

[Brett Vesely]

Right?

[John Holmberg]

Jesus. You're the worst videographer ever. You can't even find the damn egg.

[Eric]

Where are they?

[John Holmberg]

I bet you. I bet you dummy with his phone even closes one eye when he's filming. I don't. Those are just a pile of rocks.

[Eric]

There's a few speckled eggs right there.

[John Holmberg]

I don't even see eggs. And I don't care. He didn't either. He had a finder camouflage. You honestly thought that was worth look anything? What about this one?

[Brett Vesely]

Funny.

[John Holmberg]

Haha. There's a design behind the video. What is it exactly this we don't want you get a rise out. We were doing it for a while. If it's a. If it's to get a rise out of me, shouldn't I be a target to. Why I've never seen these videos.

[Eric]

That's why I was says the reason.

[John Holmberg]

He'S doing it is so I get a rise out of it. I've never seen him.

[Eric]

I know. Slappy over here. We'll pick it up the next Sunday.

[John Holmberg]

Only when we're talking about how boring you are. He's proving it.

[Eric]

That's why there are. No, it isn't.

[John Holmberg]

You are not making boring videos for three years later for us to make fun of.

[Eric]

Three years later.

[John Holmberg]

How old is that video of him with that egg?

[Brett Vesely]

I don't know.

[Eric]

That's at least that. But that was the fun of it.

[John Holmberg]

Of what?

[Eric]

I mean doing the.

[John Holmberg]

The video so I would make fun of it someday.

[Eric]

That's funny.

[John Holmberg]

Why wouldn't you come in and go hey, I made some videos you might be interested in.

[Brett Vesely]

May 17th of 22 was the sloth.

[John Holmberg]

That thing is three years old and it's designed for me.

[Eric]

Not designed for the whole. Yeah, the joke of it all.

[John Holmberg]

Not for you to be boring. Yes.

[Eric]

No, not.

[John Holmberg]

I mean the Valley thing too.

[Eric]

A spoof of Wild America.

[John Holmberg]

I get it. But there doing the voice of the guy. Is that what you're doing? Oh, Brady Attenborough. That's Attenborough.

[Eric]

That's Brady Attenborough.

[John Holmberg]

Oh my God. Maybe I'll say that sounded just like Brady.

[Eric]

Hello, my friends.

[John Holmberg]

What a. What the point made is and it's been cemented. Look, the point has been hammered down. Nobody wants to see and. Okay, I'll give you the Internet videos of two dogs doing it. Missionary is pretty good. If you're involved in that at all. If you're voicing it, if you're the laughs and the adventures, I'm saying you're no different than anyone else. Nobody's videos themselves in them are good. If you're in it, it's automatically boring. Unless.

[Eric]

Which most of the time.

[John Holmberg]

Right, I'm not in. Now these. I'll give you that. You do a panda eating a giant carrot, which I think is AI. I don't know what that is. Is that a squash?

[Eric]

You know, those are just.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah, those. But you taking a bite of a burger, you know, Come on. If you're in it, it's a boring video. I guarantee it. And not just because of you, because nobody wants to watch.

[Eric]

The reason I'm doing. You know, that was just where you're at your.

[John Holmberg]

There's some with you with a mask on.

[Eric]

If I could bring more people to Eric's family barbecue. That's okay. I just got my first vaccine.

[Brett Vesely]

Okay.

[Eric]

Jesus Christ.

[John Holmberg]

Cut his head off. This is for me.

[Eric]

Picture of choice. No, no, that was not me. Okay. I'm just about five minutes after I got it in the arm. Everything feels fine. I can definitely feel where I got the shot.

[John Holmberg]

Oh, Christ.

[Eric]

Oh.

[John Holmberg]

Oh. And it's not just you.

[Brett Vesely]

Where's the pr?

[John Holmberg]

Go through anybody's Instagram page. Every video is boring. Every single video people make is boring. Nobody wants to see that broken out at all. Oh, my God. But that's it. You lop your head off and suddenly those all have 10 million views. And some are sad and some have. It just adds meaning to meaningless things. Hear the words you say sometimes.

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I mean, who talks like that?

[John Holmberg]

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[John Holmberg]

But thanks for doing those for me. I really appreciate it. I'm glad I could pick up a couple of those four years later.

[Eric]

You gotta laugh and enjoy.

[John Holmberg]

I did it. I was disgusted. Yeah, I didn't. I didn't get a laugh. I got a. Oh, God. Poor Brady. Poor, poor Brady.

[Eric]

You enjoyed the wildlife.

[John Holmberg]

No, I didn't. I thought it was boring. I thought all of it was boring.

[Eric]

Well, it's not for everyone.

[John Holmberg]

No, it isn't for. And that's my point. It's not for anyone.

[Eric]

It's not for you.

[John Holmberg]

It's not for anyone. Brett, back me up.

[Eric]

Most people.

[John Holmberg]

It is not for most people. There's a reason why you have 205 views. It's not for most people. Probably 180 of them are. Brett, look at. Brady's losing his mind. Should we take him to a doctor? I haven't seen those videos yet, but I'm glad that they're waiting for me at any given time. Yeah, they're ready. Well, we can go to. You're making my point for me. All people's videos of themselves doing stuff is boring unless something drastically crazy happens unexpectedly while you're doing. If you're taping an owl and walking through a park, I'm telling you right now, you're boring the world, period.

[Commercial Announcer]

No way.

[John Holmberg]

Yes. And the people you're attracting to it are boring. You've got a gaggle of people you wouldn't want to hang out with a wow. Video that was. Hey, Alice, come over here for a second. Here's a man. Close to an hour. Oh, no. Alex gone. Anyway, my day's made. Nobody wants to see that. No one wants to see that. Thank you, Brett, for taking me to Flavortown for a second.

[Brett Vesely]

Here you go.

[John Holmberg]

Oh, he's got. Oh, here he is doing something else.

[Eric]

Wild America. Easter Gooslings. Or goslings. Look at those totes adorbs. This is exciting. Riveting. Happy Easter, everybody.

[John Holmberg]

Somebody cut his head off. That's all I'm saying. Please. Come on. Just make him. Give him the views he needs. He tried to in the middle of that one.

[Eric]

That is dude, perfect.

[John Holmberg]

While he was trying to tell us it's all in jest, tongue in cheek, in the middle of it. He said, it's not for everybody. A lot of people find him interesting. He still tried to backtrack and say, no, People love my videos. No one loves your video.

[Eric]

Oh, no. There are at least 99.

[John Holmberg]

Nobody loves those little hearts. Right? Like, that's because the retarded kids need a little pat on the head sometimes.

[Eric]

499.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah. No, it's awful. Unless you die, let Gabby Petito be your guide. Her videos were horrible.

[Brett Vesely]

This is the content that gets you banned. You need to be careful with the explicit stuff, boss.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah, yeah.

[Brett Vesely]

Some of the comments.

[Eric]

Love the comments.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah. Yep. Love the comment.

[Brett Vesely]

Oh, this one. Suck it, John. This is a great video. Not everyone is addicted to porn like you are.

[John Holmberg]

I'm not. Yeah, but you know what I'm not doing? Yeah, exactly. You know what I'm not doing at dinner? Breaking out. Hey, this is what I just saw. Check out this little honey. She sure knows how to edge you. Keep it to yourself. You keep your home videos and your stuff to yourself.

[Eric]

Usually it's like, wait until the boys see this one.

[John Holmberg]

No, keep it to yourself. Keep it to yourself. Any video with you. And not just you, Brady. Any video with you in it going, oh, here's me exploring. Unless you're finding a human head, because you just became part of the documentary. Yes. Awful. This is.

[Brett Vesely]

This is why being visually impaired is good at times.

[John Holmberg]

Sean Rockefeller, I know who you are. So happy. You know, if only you were deaf, too. Helen Keller had it Me. Helen Keller's the only one that might enjoy Brady's video. Yeah, me too, Helen. Boss.

[Eric]

KUPD for these riveting videos.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah. Nathan Sutherland wouldn't even bang these videos. Then the other thing I can't get enough of And I didn't follow this story here in the US of A. Right here in Arizona. In fact, a murder took place a while ago. I didn't know the details of this, but I'm gonna look into it. The, the, the court case was between Kimberly Lecount. She's being prosecuted. She could get the death penalty for masterminding this murder. And I'm like, ooh, murder story. Local. Like it. It's just she convinced her secret lover, which you always have to love that phrase, her secret lover, to kill her spouse. Which resulted in a triple shooting and a double murder not only of the spouse, but of his parents. I got it. Right. So the counts lover is someone named Kipling Harris. This is straight out of like 80s soap operas. I feel sorry for soap opera writers because you can't come up with this stuff. It's truth is fiction is reality. Now it says Kipling was already convicted of the murder, so he did it. But they're trying to figure out if she was the reason why she was married. This Lecount lady was married to someone named Alex Kuhn. And you're like, oh, okay, don't Brett. That's not the fun part. Oh, it's not? No. He had recently transitioned from a female named Alice. So Alex was a transitioned female from Alice to Alex married Kimberly Lecount. Kimberly Lecount was banging Kipling Harris. Kipling Harris kills Alex Kuhn. Stop it. The parents, Peggy and Bob Kuhn. God damn it. I didn't see this coming when I wanted to bring it up. That's a great story. And Peggy got killed too. Bob got hurt. So the medical examiner was on. On the thing yesterday saying, you know. Yeah, the autopsy came back. It says Mrs. Coon's death was caused by multiple gunshot wounds. Things like, yeah, Alice Cooten was shot in the head three times. Stop it. And like they're trying to see if she can go to jail for her whole life for putting her secret lover up for killing her transvestite husband. And I'm like, how in the world has. Have we not wrapped our arms around this in the state of Arizona? How is this the first time I'm kind of hearing about this? Amazing. This is going to be a six parter on the ID network. There's no way. This isn't.

[Brett Vesely]

You need to break out the Madden.

[John Holmberg]

Chalkboard to follow that along.

[Brett Vesely]

Because I'm just like transvestites doing this.

[John Holmberg]

Right?

[Brett Vesely]

This is what the.

[John Holmberg]

Back in the 80s when you wrote for soap operas, it's like, no, Dorth it's the whole premise of Tootsie. Yeah, Tootsie was a. I'm a transvestite. And it was just a man dressed as a woman who's married to a man. But this, this was a woman dressed as a man married to a woman who had a boyfriend named Kipling. And I mean Kipling and all the names are so.

[Eric]

It sounds like she was upset at him transitioning.

[John Holmberg]

No, I think she married him for trans. It was. Alice went into Alex. It was a woman that became a man and she married the man. You're. You're just stuck on that because you don't like transition.

[Eric]

No, it sounded like. I mean, I couldn't figure out why it was.

[John Holmberg]

She was secret lover. Her secret lover and her were gonna run off to the Bahamas or something. It's secret lover stuff. And they're like, the only thing holding us back is this husband of mine that used to be a woman. We gotta kill him. And so she starts plotting and gets her secret lover all fired up saying this poon that happens on the ID network. That's constant jail, jail time, phone calls are always like. The secret lover traps the lady who talked him into it by talking dirty to him. And then she finally says, I'm so glad we do what we did and I'm gonna stick by you the whole time. And he's like, yeah, but, you know, if I shouldn't have done it, we could have. We could have done something different. But you know, it is. Yes, but we had to. We talked about this. And they always get them. They always get the lady who, who Frank. Who got the secret lover to kill. They always get her to talk. But this is a great story and there's a transition in it somewhere from Alice to Alex. That doesn't make. That's what I'm saying.

[Eric]

It drove her to a secret lover.

[John Holmberg]

Well, you don't See, you keep doing that.

[Eric]

You keep.

[John Holmberg]

You keep acting like the. Like you can't get answers. Your answers are always kind of bigoted, religious based. Can't be a trend. You can't be. You can't be a. A man, a woman to a man and still have a relationship. You're saying, well, that drove her away, that, who knows, maybe she was into.

[Eric]

She go to another man.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah, but it doesn't mean she didn't like him. She just found someone else. It didn't have anything to do with transitioning. It's like I transition. She married him after he transitioned. She married. She was like. She was with him. She liked him. As Alex. That wasn't the thing that drove her away. You got like that.

[Eric]

I thought all of a sudden she, you know, was missing the D. No.

[John Holmberg]

You made that. No, he might have had a D. It might have plastered one on there. Might have unfolded one and grew one out. Might not have been a big one. It might have been one of those, you know, you know, steroid manufactured non hormone testosterone. Grow the bald man in the canoe. D's. I've seen those. China D, they call it the wrestler, not the country. Although very similar size. But yeah, no, she was. She was fine with that. Like, that was her husband.

[Brett Vesely]

Mrs. Coon.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah, Mrs. Coon. That's right. Mrs. I'm gonna go with Brett on this. Mrs. Coon married Alice. All right, who was Alex. She was fine with that. But then she found Kipling. And Kipling sounds like a guy who had some money. And then she had some magic for Kipling and she's like, I think I love Kipling more. But you know, my husband Alex, formerly Alice, you know, I don't want to divorce him because I lose money, I lose a house. I just gotta get rid of this guy. So she talked Kipling into it. He was the only thing standing in the way of their perfect love. Great. And it says, when you have. This is a good thing. Says because of how fast it all happened. One thing's not certain in the attack, though, because of how fast it all happened, where the gunshot wounds were. The medical examiner said he's not sure of something. He can't determine the order of who shot who or when. When the person got shot. And the guy said, why is that? He said, when you have injuries that are temporarily related, the injury patterns are going to be all bleeding. So I can't tell based off the injury who got shot first, second or third. So we don't know when Kipling started shooting, if it was like a rampage, if he waited for people. It was like, you know, was everybody in the room at the same time? Was this plot that they lure others in. Oh, it's pretty awesome. It's pretty great. So the Coons fell, man. Unbelievable. And Kipling's in jail.

[Brett Vesely]

Or Mrs. Coon.

[John Holmberg]

That's right. And tomorrow she's gone.

[Eric]

Hopefully Netflix is already on it.

[John Holmberg]

They have to be. This is a three parter. If it's anything I need to know about Alice turning into Alex. I need to know about the Coons. I need to know about Mrs. LeCount and do each. Each one gets their own documentary. And then bring them together and you know, somebody who transitions has, like, loads of videotape of themselves before and after. In this day and age, the best thing that's ever happened for me with the Internet and all this TikTok and nonsense with people posting photos and videos, is that future murder documentaries. You've done all the work for the documentarian. You've got so much footage of yourself.

[Eric]

Everything.

[John Holmberg]

It's. It makes the documentaries great. I always watch those things and wonder. I don't have any home videos of me that I've saved over the years. Maybe three. It seems like everybody who's been murdered has thousands of hours of themselves from age three and to even, like, from the 60s, there's, like, constant videos of people on road trips and running around the house that. That applies. But, like, the murderers there, the dad's there, the kids, it's just constant. And now documentarian just goes, all right, let's see their social media. I can build a documentary without even starting a camera. A couple interviews, I'll be done with this thing in a heartbeat. I just need to edit their videos that they left laying all over the earth. It's great. So, you know, the Coons and. Stop it and Lecount and Kipling all have, you know, tons of evidence of themselves that we can build stories off of. Made the Gabby Petito thing great. They were blogging. There's a ton of video them doing stuff that they can tie into a story, tons of it all the way up until the. Well, you get to know the days before the day of. Yeah, you get to know the victims. You get to see them and hear them talking. Oh, the good part about the Gabby Petito one was in her diary. They used AI to read it as her. So they. They even said. So they're like, look, we're gonna. We're gonna read the. The parts of the diary that are read are in Gabby's voice through to artificial intelligence stuff. So it was her reading what she had written, which was a little creepy. And I can't imagine the family was all too comfortable with that. The funny thing is, with something like.

[Brett Vesely]

That, you're happy that they were bloggers and you got to see all this.

[John Holmberg]

Right. Stuff.

[Brett Vesely]

So these crappy reenactments.

[John Holmberg]

Exactly.

[Brett Vesely]

But if she wasn't dead and you see it on YouTube, like, oh, look at this jackass. It cares about you in your van.

[John Holmberg]

It takes a kidnapping or a slog for me to be interested in your. In your vlog.

[Eric]

And John said it yesterday, don't even call it a van.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah, no, it's. Yeah, it's a transit. The transit wagon. But yeah, I mean, that's, I mean, look at Instagram right now and think of all the things that chicks throw up there that would bore you to tears. Unless someone lobs their head off. Now all of a sudden, these videos and these tick tock dances have some merit. I can build a story around that. But while your head's attached, your vlogs and your videos and your, your opinions are stupid, terrible. But until, yeah, you want to get Internet famous, that's the only real way, guaranteed. Get your head shot and get your head chopped off. Yeah, well, you'll get a ton of views and that's. I'm not saying it's the right way. I'm saying it's a guarantee that all your videos that you want people, you want all that attention. Sorry, the only person not going to see how much attention you're getting is you get your head lobbed off. I mean, had anyone heard of Nicole Brown Simpson before 1994? No. Now she's a household name. You get your head lobbed off. Suddenly everybody's seeing your, your family photo album, pictures of you. They've seen old videos of you, you know, around the house and videotapes you at a birthday party when you were five. Things that would have bored people to tears when you were alive are now of the utmost importance. Like people are looking for clues that. Especially in the. Like on the murder shows when the uncle, like, turns out he's been touching the kids and stuff and they have videos of them at birthday parties and there's the uncle in the back, like, look at him lurking. You'd have never noticed it while the kids heads were still attached. But once a head falls off, you start, you start looking for clues and we're all disgusting that way. I don't all I have it, like I have my phone is just packed full of videos. One of my dog's heads would have to get lobbed off to have a documentary and be interest because that's all I have.

[Eric]

They'd have that or the footage that they'd use or the sonic spoof commercials from years ago.

[John Holmberg]

Yes. Yeah, well, we're different. We're different because we're in media. Yeah, I'm talking about the. Like, do you think that if you didn't have this job that any video you have ever done with Kirby at all is interesting to anyone in the world outside of your mother? It's out of control now.

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