02-18-25 - Toronto Plane Crash Vid Show People Coming Out Of The Plane - It's Now Legal To Shoot Cartel Drones Out Of The Sky In AZ - John's Not A Fan Of Hunted Meats Like Dove Deer And Elk - Tamales As A Gift Rant And John's Dislike Of Them

Summary

Holmberg's Morning Sickness - Arizona: Episode Summary (02-18-25)

Release Date: February 18, 2025
Host: John Holmberg, Brady Bogen, Bret Vesely, Dick Toledo
Podcast: 98 KUPD | Hubbard Radio
Episode Topics: Toronto Plane Crash Video, Legalization of Shooting Cartel Drones in Arizona, Dislike of Hunted Meats, Tamales as Unwanted Gifts

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1. Toronto Plane Crash Video and Public Reaction

The episode opens with a discussion about a recent Toronto plane crash, focusing on the rapid spread of footage showing passengers exiting the aircraft amidst chaos.

• John Holmberg shares his astonishment at the speed at which the plane crash videos proliferated online:

  "I watch it just tons. And there I am sitting in a living room in Phoenix, Arizona, watching a Toronto plane crash about an hour after it happens." (01:11)

• The hosts express concern over the increasing number of plane crashes and the ensuing negative impact on public perception of air travel safety:

  "Planes are falling out of the sky like crazy." (02:00)

• Brady Bogen humorously recounts a fictitious scenario where witnessing a plane crash transforms him into a "porn actor":

  "I have a feeling I would walk out of it when I had my car accident and I got spun around on that T-bone." (02:01)

• The conversation highlights issues with pilot actions during emergencies, questioning whether pilots are taking necessary measures to save lives or merely reacting instinctively:

  "Did the pilot save lives? Did he just cross his fingers and act like a NASCAR crash?" (03:55)

2. Legalization of Shooting Cartel Drones in Arizona

A significant portion of the episode centers on Arizona's new legislation permitting the shooting down of cartel-operated drones.

• John Holmberg introduces the topic by sarcastically proposing himself as a "governor consigliere" to implement drone hunting:

  "I could make the state some money. And also, we could have the time of our lives." (12:00)

• The hosts debate the practicality and implications of civilians engaging in drone hunting, drawing parallels to traditional hunting:

  "We sell. Like. My dad always tried to take me dove hunting." (13:04)

• Brady Bogen envisions a system where hunting drones becomes a weekend activity with permits and lotteries:

  "Opening season for drones. It's drone weekend." (14:37)

• The conversation critiques the reliance on civilians versus law enforcement in enforcing drone regulations:

  "We don't have enough cops and we don't have enough border patrol in the first place." (17:14)

3. Dislike of Hunted Meats: Dove, Deer, and Elk

John Holmberg leads a candid discussion on his aversion to consuming hunted meats, particularly dove, deer, and elk.

• John Holmberg openly criticizes the taste and preparation of game meats:

  "They're horrible. The meat is terrible." (18:56)

• The hosts compare game meat to commercially available meats, emphasizing the perceived inferior taste and texture:

  "It's gamey and it's disgusting and usually it's like oily or strange or so dry it's like eating a sock." (19:37)

• Bret Vesely empathizes with the practicality of hunting for population control but aligns with John's taste preferences:

  "I have no problem with that. But you hunters are a lot like, oh, they're going to hate hearing what I'm about to say." (18:05)

• The dialogue touches on the challenges of preparing and cooking hunted meats, further deterring consumption:

  "There's nothing fun about killing quail and then trying to peel out all those BBs before you cook it." (22:19)

4. Tamales as Unwanted Gifts and Cultural Commentary

The episode concludes with a spirited rant about tamales being given as gifts, particularly during holidays, and John's strong dislike for them.

• John Holmberg criticizes the perception of tamales as affordable gifts, questioning their cultural appropriateness and taste:

  "If they were so good, wouldn't they be just handed over as Valentine's presents too?" (36:05)

• The hosts share anecdotes about receiving tamales, highlighting the inconvenience and lack of genuine appreciation for the gesture:

  "I took a bite in front of him and he could see. You don't like them so much. Mush." (43:22)

• Brett Vesely and Brady Bogen participate in the discussion, reflecting on the generational and cultural aspects of gift-giving and food preferences:

  "Tamales are their steak 44." (42:05)

• The conversation extends to broader critiques of traditional holiday gifts, such as mixed-flavor popcorn and summer sausage, labeling them as outdated and unappetizing:

  "The commemorative bucket. And it was always regular popcorn, candy corn and black licorice." (41:14)

Conclusion

Throughout the episode, the hosts blend serious societal issues with personal anecdotes and humor, offering listeners a multifaceted perspective on topics ranging from aviation safety to cultural food practices. John's candid opinions and the dynamic interactions among the hosts create an engaging narrative that balances informative content with entertaining dialogue.

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Notable Quotes with Timestamps:

• John Holmberg:

  "I watch videos of people on the plane getting off the plane. I watch videos of the plane actually crashing." (01:11)
  "They're horrible. The meat is terrible." (18:56)
  "If they were so good, wouldn't they be just handed over as Valentine's presents too?" (36:05)

• Brady Bogen:

  "You thought that was funny. You were laughing like a hyena when he said it." (00:32)
  "Opening season for drones. It's drone weekend." (14:37)

• Bret Vesely:

  "I have no problem with that. But you hunters are a lot like, oh, they're going to hate hearing what I'm about to say." (18:05)

• Dick Toledo:

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Disclaimer: This summary is based on the transcript provided and aims to encapsulate the key discussions and viewpoints expressed during the episode.

Transcript

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[Brady]

You thought that was funny. You were laughing like a hyena when he said it.

[John Holmberg]

What the hell is wrong with you? Good morning everybody. Hello there. Welcome to Tuesday. Especially all you people who had yesterday off. Welcome in. Welcome back. It's 5:45. This is the morning sickness. My name's John Holmberg. Hi, how are you? There's Brady, there's Brett, there's big Dick Toledo. And we're off and running on another day where I hope you don't have to fly because it's. The videos are horrifying.

[Brady]

Amazing how fast that stuff comes out.

[John Holmberg]

Man, oh man, I watched about. Excuse me. Too much soda to start today. I'll be right back. Oh man, that was a good one. But yeah, it's amazing how, how fast everything is. I watched, I watched videos of people on the plane getting off the plane. I watched videos of the plane actually crashing. I watch videos of the plane before it crashed. I watch it just tons. And there I am sitting in a, you know, a living room in Phoenix, Arizona, watching a Toronto plane crash about an hour after it happens. And then the news and everybody else starts saying, well, it's just not safe to travel. Planes are falling out of the sky like crazy. It is seemingly a touch extra right now that we've had a few.

[Brady]

But the first one I saw was play by play by like the kid on the.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah.

[Brady]

Porn site.

[John Holmberg]

Whoa. Whoa. I was just on that plane. Whoa. What the what? Yeah, he was bad porn actor. But I think, I think a good, a good old fashioned jarring plane crash will turn you into a porn actor. I have a feeling I would walk out of it when I had my car accident and I got spun around on that T bone. I was a bad porn actor for a little while. I mean, I grabbed my three legged dog. I was in my Apollo Creed boxing shorts. It's very special. It might be the craziest human event of all time as far as the way, oh, did I look special after the accident? The firefighters are like, your blood pressure's a little high, but that's normal after an accident like this. But your autism seems to be going through the moon. And I'm like, I don't think I'm autistic. Like, oh, you're autistic? Like what? Like, oh, you're. You've got Asperger's. You got hit so hard. You've got Asperger's now. But I just got out of the car and just screamed at the top of my lungs holding a three legged dog. Just the F word. And I mean wandered off into the intersection that I just got blasted out of. And then after a little while, what happened? I turned into the dumbest man on the planet because my adrenaline was 1000% higher. My whole body was just reacting completely to the fact. And I'm not sure what happened, but I didn't, I didn't know what's going on. And then I just remember getting real close to the kid and he was dressed in a baseball uniform, grabbing him, going, are you okay? What the happened? And this kid's looking at me like, I hit a man. Homeless and retarded. Like, he's coming at me hard. Why is he holding a three legged pit bull? What happened? Where's your dog's leg? Did I do that? So I can't imagine, because they said that the plan, if the video of the plane actually going down is odd. I don't know if you've seen that yet. It's more just kind of like so fast you can't really tell, but evidently they were landing in a 45 mile an hour wind gust. And it turned.

[Brady]

That's what caught it.

[John Holmberg]

Turned it over and the wing caught the. And snapped the wing off. And then it's like, well, that's enough. And it just rolled over on its top. Did the pilot save lives? Did he just cross his fingers and act like a NASCAR crash and put his hand across his chest? That would, that's what I would do.

[Brady]

Yeah. Hands off the wheel.

[John Holmberg]

Hands off the wheel.

[Brett]

Have your mask first and then put it on your.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah, buddy, sorry, co pilot, you're on your own. I don't know how that works, but everybody survives. So we're all laughing. But I'm.

[Brady]

I didn't go back on the. Looking at the video. I saw it like twice.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah.

[Brady]

Is that, Was that the flight attendants helping people out or.

[John Holmberg]

I don't. I Didn't I just know that?

[Brady]

I'm trying to figure that out. Because they were very calm. All right, get out.

[John Holmberg]

I did know that. Because every time I sit in the emergency exit and I try to. And they ask you, are you able and willing to assist in case of an emergency? And then you have to give a verbal yes. I don't mean that. I'm first one out.

[Brady]

And if you don't, they move you.

[John Holmberg]

The only thing. Right. But who says no? I've seen it one time.

[Brett]

I've seen it one time.

[John Holmberg]

I've never seen an old lady sit there and they're like, we don't think you can do it. I've never seen anybody say, no, I'm not. Well, I'm not willing to assist. I'll get the door open. That's my assist. That's my John Stockton moment of the flight. And then I'm the first down the. I'm the first down the slide. Like they just cracked open a new playground for 8 year olds. I'm hitting that thing hard.

[Brady]

Then we had that lady that went viral because she joked and they're like, okay, we're not gonna have you.

[John Holmberg]

I was kidding. They didn't trust me. Oh, no, no. You get your leg. You get your leg room taken away. When you start dicking around with the FAA rules of that, you know, will you help out? Yes. I make a firm yes. I don't mean that at all. So watch on this. Watch this leg room. I hope this thing goes down. I want this bird in the earth because the second it goes down, I'm helping every button. Nope, nope. I'll be. I'll be the furthest, but people will still be on the plane looking out the window. Who's that guy seven, 800 yards away from the. Oh, he was sitting in the. Yeah, way far away.

[Brady]

Stand up and proudly turn around say, I got you.

[John Holmberg]

I'll have run so fast and hard to my destination after the plane goes down, there'll still be people getting off the plane. By the time I'm where we were.

[Brady]

Gonna be, I'm out of everybody's way.

[Brett]

I don't understand what the hell you're supposed to do anyway.

[John Holmberg]

I'm not trained for this.

[Brett]

I mean, what, you're supposed to throw them out yourself? I mean, jump between the three of you.

[Brady]

One of you is supposed to figure out the handle.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah, okay, good.

[Brett]

I got it open. I'm out.

[John Holmberg]

That's it. I open the door. Let me move. There's not enough leg room here for this. There's not.

[Brett]

There's not enough room in that aisle for two people.

[John Holmberg]

But yesterday on that Delta flight, there was a lady standing next to the thing, escort, helping you go.

[Brady]

It's just a, you know, a different. It was a large step because you're. You're stepping over the carry on.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah, yeah, you're on.

[Brady]

The seats aren't in the way.

[John Holmberg]

You're on the ceiling of the plane. The seats are upside down. So, yeah, she was just standing there going, have a nice flight. We'll see you next time. Thanks for flying Delta. See ya. And they're shooting out into Toronto, where it's like 105,000 degrees below zero. The wind is gusting. It just pushed a plane away.

[Brett]

Maybe you're supposed to hand out park is while they're jumping out the door or something.

[John Holmberg]

You go, enjoy a blanket. Enjoy a Delta blanket. Thanks. Please fly again. This counts as miles.

[Brady]

I did notice there's like four people in the front of the plane as the fire crew is hosing the plane down. Standing there like, that's gotta be cold again.

[John Holmberg]

Your adrenaline and everything's gotta be going where you're not even thinking about feeling cold until later. You're like, I'm freezing. I didn't even know you've been out here for 20 minutes there. It's nuts. But it was kind of amazing. So I'm gonna go ahead and call it now. My rule is, before you travel through the air, always scour the Internet to try to find a plane crash somewhere on the planet within the last week or so, and you're gonna travel safe. That's fallen off a little bit. My statistics aren't great right now, but this is it. This is the last of it. And it is. It has a lot to do with us getting video and being hypersensitive and paying extra attention to plane wrecks, big or small. It's a little weird. I've never wanted to fly into Canada in February. I've talked to hockey players and they're like, man, some of those flights were like Indiana Jones rides into the. Like, there was a landing on skis. Oh, you're flying into, like, you know, Edmonton or Ottawa and February, and you got to get there. You know, it's a. The game is tomorrow, and you're getting in there that night. And yeah, they. They hit the Runway of the heaters on the Runway. Let's just hope that this thing stops. And it's amazing. It really, truly is amazing. We haven't seen more of that up in those States, like, you know, beautiful Montana. I don't even know if they have airports up there, but beautiful Montana. And all those northern states were like, that bird should be flying out of the sky like crazy up there. Even real birds don't want to fly in it. So, anyway, if you got a flight today, I'm calling it pretty safe.

[Brett]

Sit in the aisle seat.

[John Holmberg]

Knock on wood. Yeah. And if you. And I don't know, I've never met.

[Brett]

Anybody who's like, I've seen it one time. I literally did.

[John Holmberg]

Well, the. No, I. I guess I've seen with an old person where they didn't realize they were in that aisle. And, like, are you able to.

[Brett]

Was in his 50s, and I don't know, maybe he had an arm problem or something. But. But on top of that, I mean, what are you supposed to do? I mean, you get. Especially when you get that. That pig that comes on that has the two seat belts, there's no room in the. In the aisle for both of you to get out, you know, so.

[Brady]

And that pig out doesn't recline, right?

[Brett]

Yeah.

[John Holmberg]

The fact that there's three of you right on each side, like, you're just. If somebody's in the way, there's just too many people in the way. You're all in the way. It's the dude by the door, and that's the seat I always take.

[Brett]

I'm your valet, and I'm out.

[John Holmberg]

I'll pop that door off, and I'll be good at it. I. Occasionally, while I'm flying, look and see, like, let's see if this goes out. What do I do here? That's good instruction.

[Brady]

Sure. You look like, all right, where's the closest exit door?

[John Holmberg]

I've watched that old lady in the American suit shut the thing to get us on the plane. So I'm like, all right, that doesn't seem so hard. It's a latch. It'll pop off top. I think I can do that, but you're not seeing me hanging around. My buddy Billy, who was in that plane crash in Detroit back in, like, 1990, 91, whenever it was, when another plane landed on his plane, tore the top off of it, he said, there's nothing about helping you do what you can to, like, see if somebody's in front of you. But he said, all you're trying to do is get them up and out of the way. He goes. It's less help and more, like, move. And he said, you know, his half of the plane that he was on, half the people Were gone, like, on the Runway, and he kind of woke up from the blast, and he said, I, you know, grab some people. So what you do is help on the ground. That's when you really kind of assess all that's going on. But, yeah, I'm not. I'm not doing a whole lot, but I think I'm gonna make the call that that's, you know, that'll be it for a little bit. We're not gonna have. We're not gonna have any more fallout. I could be wrong. I'm, you know, I'm just making my claim based on history. That's enough. We're gonna. We're buttoning it up at this point. There's no way these things keep tumbling out.

[Brett]

That's good, because Cody just said, don't jinx it for me, guys. I fly to Chicago today from Phoenix.

[John Holmberg]

Chicago, check the weather.

[Brett]

That's a little cold.

[John Holmberg]

They can handle the cold, but that wind gust thing, I'd be worried about that. I'm gonna predict. You make it. It's still the safest form of travel, no matter what. The. Some friend of mine yesterday text me, goes, I'm just. I think I'm afraid to fly now. And I'm like, yeah, what are the odds? There's like 4,000 flights a day. One or two go down in a month and a half. It's like, yeah, one didn't. One was just fine. It wasn't a plane's fault. The helicopter goes flying into the side of it. You're not gonna win that fight ever. I'm surprised that doesn't happen more often. But it's safe. It's just we have again, we get access to all the. Like, It's. We're just overwhelmed with. Inside the plane, outside the plane, at the airport, just outside the airport. Somebody at home filming it and stuff like that. And we still don't know why. That one in Philadelphia just fell out of the sky.

[Brett]

It's Philadelphia.

[John Holmberg]

It's bad. Maybe there was a Super bowl celebration or. I don't know. They just shot it down.

[Brady]

Whiz got in the engine.

[John Holmberg]

John Holmberg's morning sickness. The 98 KUPD. Holmberg's Morning Sickness. By the way, I saw it on the news last night. Speaking of flying stuff, I would like to again, if I was governor, things. I could do this. I could do this. I'm too stupid to actually be governor, but there's ideas that I could just. I should be a governor consigliere. Like, just what does John think about this. And I'll poke my head in every once in a while and go. I got no opinion on that. I can't help but with this particular thing, I can make the state some money. And also, we could have the time of our lives. Evidently, they're just now passing some sort of rule that makes it legal to shoot down cartel drones. I saw that last night. I'm watching it. I'm like, that wasn't allowed before. And you know how they identify the cartel drones? Usually a payload of fentanyl hanging off the bottom. Well, that's fairly easy identification. We sell. Like. My dad always tried to take me dove hunting. He wanted me to be interested in dove hunting. So we'd go stand in the desert in the middle of night. Well, that's. He was like. Well, he didn't have that mentality. He wasn't an idiot. But, like, we would go dove hunting, and then the dove would flush themselves out of wherever they were.

[Brett]

And quail.

[John Holmberg]

Quail was another one. And he would, you know, dust up the quail. And we didn't have a, you know, German short hair or anything to go get him. But that was me. I was basically the German shorthair. I'd be like, I think they're in that bush. And my dad, I make some sort of noise. That noise would happen, and then he'd shoot, and one would fall out of the sky. And then I would run to go get it. I was the dog. I had no interest in this. I wasn't hungry for quail ever in my life.

[Brady]

Now ring it.

[John Holmberg]

Oh, no. That was when I got out of it. And then, you know, he's like, you know, I was a boy, my dad took me hunting. It was the greatest days of my. I'm like, yeah, I like basketball. Color me crazy. You didn't have basketball in Mount Jewett, Pennsylvania. And you probably had to eat this stuff. Like, we have grocery stores. So we always were at odds with, I don't mind being in the desert. Can I bring my bike? And he'd be like, no. And then. And then he wised up and said, if he's got his bike and get the birds faster. So I started to ride my diamondback around out there until a snake approached either way, here nor there. We had to get a permit for this. We had to pay the state. Drone hunting. I would pay thousands of dollars to be on the border with my gun legally shooting down drones. You gotta get a permit. Don't let the. Don't let the boys on the border patrol handle this. Permitted hunt.

[Brady]

Open it up, Hope.

[John Holmberg]

Open it up. And if you kill one, you get half the value of whatever is attached to it.

[Brady]

So now you'd be hearing at the office saying, I'm gonna be gone for a week. Look, opening season for drones.

[John Holmberg]

It's drone weekend. But that's the beauty of it, Brady. You have to wait till fall. It's every week.

[Brady]

Yeah.

[John Holmberg]

So 100 guys a week will draw for drone hunting.

[Brady]

Like fifth wheeler down there.

[John Holmberg]

$500 a permit, and you can. You get drawn for the lottery and you say there's. That's like. You know, you start making some serious cake here pretty soon. Hunting drones now, it's super rare. And I would be. So I'd be blown away if I went into somebody's house. And on the mount next to the javelina is a cartel drone.

[Brett]

Be awesome.

[John Holmberg]

With a. With a taxidermied box of fentanyl underneath it. Oh, I. Now my dad and I can go out hunting. Finally. His bond. We could bond. He can shoot birds we don't need. And I'll shoot drones that we certainly don't need. How is that just now being passed?

[Brett]

Let's get Byron from MMP on this thing. We can set something up.

[John Holmberg]

Telling you what. This is how they're saying the border patrol or anybody else should be doing this is beyond me. We have hunters everywhere. Birds everywhere. So you know people who love hunting birds. My dad loves that dove stew. Quail stew. Like he. Oh, and that spin their head thing. This one. You just get a cartel drone of fentanyl.

[Brady]

Oh, that's a party.

[John Holmberg]

Oh. Oh.

[Brett]

How many guys from Maryville are gonna be out there shooting?

[Brady]

Okay.

[Brett]

Okay, Cool. Got my load today.

[John Holmberg]

Okay. If you get. If you get caught hunting without a license or hauling the fentanyl away, same rules apply. You're gonna get. You're gonna get jail time for a.

[Brett]

Long time out there in the middle of the desert.

[John Holmberg]

No poaching. No poaching.

[Brady]

Gotta tag.

[John Holmberg]

Bert, you gotta. Yeah, you gotta hit it. Yeah. You gotta call it in immediately. And responsible hunters would do that. Anybody paying 500 bucks to do it isn't after the fentanyl. And if they are, they're gonna get caught doing something stupid anyway.

[Brady]

That's probably their biggest fear.

[John Holmberg]

Why? The fear should be drones with bags of fentanyl flying around. More people.

[Brady]

Well, no.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah, but more good guys signing up to shoot that down. That's awesome. And they'd have to come up with new ways to float it over. I can't believe we just now Have a rule saying you can't shoot down drones. Like now it's like, well, we should change that. I copied it. It's the stupidest thing in the world. Yeah. Proposed Arizona law allows local law enforcement to shoot down drones near border. Allow us to do it. We're a well armed militia. Says it right there in the big paper. Let's get out there and start shooting. Why do the lawmakers have to do it? Let them do the law part.

[Brady]

Whole separate new job for law enforcement. You're a drone shooter.

[John Holmberg]

But that's. That's dumb. We don't have enough cops and we don't have enough border patrol in the first place, let alone have them shooting at drones. Bird hunting. We'll do it. Every weekend is drone weekend, everyone. 24 hours a day. You can get your 24 hour pass. You get your night hunt pass. I mean, we could be. We could be fleecing people and we want to shoot our guns. I'm dying to go out there and just let it be any gun. You AR15, whatever. There's no, like, limit on what you can use, you know, maybe even take it away. No bird shot. That's no fair. Okay, so you got to go direct bullets into the cartels.

[Brett]

Yeah, they're 400ft up, I think they said so.

[John Holmberg]

Got to get the big boy. You're not spraying them.

[Brett]

So you get pulled for deer and drones or what? I mean, is that how this.

[John Holmberg]

Well, if you want to still do.

[Brett]

Deer, two for one.

[John Holmberg]

Sure. If you want a two for up. I don't know how many deer you're going to get wandering around down there in Benson, but I don't know where the deer lie. I don't want deer. I have a Safeway and deer meat is as much as. Look, I look at hunters love everything you do. I am a proponent of the whole operation. I don't want to do it myself, but I get why you're doing it. And it makes tons of sense. Human activity has made it so without hunting, we end up encroaching on land, causing a population, and then that's disease and famine and all sorts of. So keeping the herd at a reasonable level. We've done a nice job of that. That's smart. I have no problem with that. But you hunters are a lot like, oh, they're going to hate hearing what I'm about to say. You hunters are a lot like vegans. You kill like a mule deer and you try to convince everybody else it tastes just as good as a cow. And you try to have people over for your venison.

[Brett]

They're not as good as a cow.

[John Holmberg]

They're horrible. The meat is terrible. Just the same way somebody tries to tell me an impossible burger is good. The same people try to tell me that deer meat tastes as good as that steroid riddled cow that I'm eating. And it doesn't. I've had elk. That's all right. My dad, you know, it's okay. But hunters always try to tell you that what they're making is better than what you can get at the store. It is. Levels lower. It's not even close to being as good. In fact, most of the time it's gross and very. You won't even know. Oh, I know. It's gamey and it's disgusting and usually it's like oily or strange or so dry it's like eating a sock.

[Brady]

Like you said, deer and elk, not so much.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah, there's a lot when you get.

[Brady]

Into the antelope, then.

[John Holmberg]

Then you're terrible. Terrible. If I brought you moose. Okay, me too. If I. If I brought you a delicious hamburger.

[Brady]

Yeah.

[John Holmberg]

From the attic. And then said, here's an antelope burger next to it. Just killed it fresh. No steroids? No. Which one's better? Be honest.

[Brady]

Well, you've acquired a taste, right?

[John Holmberg]

So which one's better?

[Brady]

I don't know. I'd be willing to try it.

[John Holmberg]

You'd be curious, of course. Well, come on. If I offered you a table with sugar on it, you'd be willing to try it. I'm not saying would you eat it. I know you would eat it. You would eat poop. I'm saying, would you eat it?

[Brady]

In a taste test, I'd probably lean towards the couch burger.

[John Holmberg]

Of course you would, because it's better. But people who want to pretend that it's not, it depends on how you prepare it, Right? You try like vegans, as hard as you can to season it to make it taste more like a burger. Vegans do the same thing with their weird bean sock food. We made it look and taste so much like a burger. Like it's not a burger though. But now it doesn't stop it. It's not as good. You know it's not as good. And you're trying really hard to make it taste like that because you know, the taste of that is so goddamn delicious. Hunters, you do that too. Yours is more reasonable than vegans though. I'd much rather be with a hunter than a vegan by long shot. Like a mouthy vegan. I don't care if you're vegan, but don't get mouthy about my food being bad, because my food tastes a billion times better. And the proof is in the pudding. Go to a vegan restaurant and half the stuff they've got is an attempt to taste like the good food they won't eat. It's the impossible hot dog I thought you guys hated. Love the taste of them, just don't like how they're manufactured. So we make these bargain basement crap versions. And, yeah, I don't know. I want turkey. Well, why would you do that when I get you tofurkey? Because turkey's delicious until ferkey tastes like. So I win this argument. But hunters, I mean, who wouldn't? All of them. All of them, right? Now, somebody with a VAR 15, the long range sniper rifle, you get a drone in your crosshairs, it's got a basket on the bottom of it filled with kid killing, fentanyl, and you take it out of the sky. How much more satisfaction are you gonna get out of that than popping the heads off of a 35 dove to make one cup of stew? Of average to okay, stew. And by the way, there's nothing fun about killing quail and then trying to peel out all those BBs before you cook it. That was my job.

[Brady]

That's a tough shot. I mean, imagine trying to get that with a rifle.

[John Holmberg]

No, you can't. That's what we're saying. AR15, that thing. Pop, pop, pop.

[Brady]

Even with that, I mean, right, the drones are big.

[Brett]

They're not like Larry's drones.

[John Holmberg]

They're like, you know, they're big boy drones. Yeah, you got to take it down.

[Brady]

What if you could design like, the mini Flack that they used to shoot up there to that explodes in the air.

[John Holmberg]

Whatever we get, it's a great idea. And there's tons of people out there with AR15s, and there's tons. If they're 3, 400ft in the air. You got a good eye for it. You're sitting there watching those go by. Take them down, make it a no fly zone for anything else. Nothing else should be flying at 3 or 400ft to confuse you. If it's up there, it's a cartel drone. I love it. I love it. Even Katie Hobbs can be behind that.

[Brady]

It'd be fun to do.

[John Holmberg]

Oh, my God, can you imagine how much fun that would be? Take the Jeep out or bouncing around down there, running through the desert, you know, maybe even run across a few illegals you don't kill them, but you call up somebody because they're not busy hunting drones. They can. They can pile them in the back of a truck and do whatever. Put them in Guatemala. I don't know where we do them now. And we just keep shooting at drones. We're drone hunters. Oh. And, you know, if that became a thing, like, Mossberg would invent a drone hunting gun. Like, you know, people. People took a. Took a liking to hunting elephants at one point to where they invented the gun just for that. Holmberg's morning sickness. The 98 KUPD. Holmberg's morning sickness. Now this guy says, john, beef is better because they got lots of fat in him. And the flavors from fat venison is lean, making it not taste as good. I bet the deer from the petting Zeus would taste better. Let's do this. That's Brian Dennison, who I now call Brian Denison, king of the venison. I'm with you on that, Brian. Let's eat some of those petting zoo deer. I don't know that I've ever seen that. I think those are goats. Yeah. Hunters, I love you. I think you're great. But I grew up in a household where my mom was asked to not tell us that it was mule deer meat. And my dad would get so mad because we're having burgers tonight or sloppy joes, which I never liked in the first place. Sloppy joes are poor people food. I hated sloppy joes. My mom would mix up that garbage and this ketchup, and it's because that.

[Brett]

Sauce covers up the flavor. That's the only reason to make those.

[John Holmberg]

Mother poor people gross. It's trailer park food. Coney's. My grandpa used to make coneys. You ever have that? No. What is that? It's basically worse. Sloppy Joe meat in a hot dog bun. It's even poorer than a sloppy joe. Oh, so gross. I'm sorry, Brady. You can leave this room. Yeah. Coney food is for tragically poor people. My grandparents were that my go Coney night in this big. You know. You know you're poor when you cook in a pot that's the size of, like, the whole stove and you're stirring with both hands that you're poor. You're so poor.

[Brady]

Basically, your bolognese sauce over a hot dog.

[John Holmberg]

Oh, gross. And then ground up hot dogs or chunks of hot dogs are in Coney sometimes used to do that. And then it was like this weird.

[Brady]

It's like chili or whatever.

[John Holmberg]

Poor people food. I'd Rather. I'd still rather eat that. It is not like chili. Coneys are not. They're similar in color, but they taste so different. Chili's actually good. Coney's are, well, yuck. But Sloppy Joes? My dad.

[Brady]

Was that a Coney?

[John Holmberg]

No. Brett grew up. His dad had a job the whole time. It was great. No need for a Coney.

[Brett]

That's Chicago dogs and stuff.

[John Holmberg]

It's very. It's very popular where we're from up there, Midwest, Chicago area. But it's. You have to leave the city and go drive by someplace where a dude's filing his tooth with a Dremel out front. That's where you find a Coney.

[Brett]

You get Coneys at Sonic.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah.

[Brady]

They still sell them.

[John Holmberg]

Don't.

[Brady]

Derek.

[John Holmberg]

The only way it's any good is if you dip it in one of those Route 44, you know, super drinks. Well, because you just gotta mix it. There's. It's. Coney's are gross. You know, if you even take a bite of a Kony, your credit score drops 30 points. I came in. I was an 824. I took four bites. I'm at 618. And they just canceled my home loan. But. Yeah, but my dad used to always do that. It was like, constantly tell my mom, you gotta prepare this. You gotta do it this way. You gotta get that. And don't tell the kids. So we would sit down and think we're eating burgers. And I'd look at it. I'm like, that doesn't look. That's brownish gray. Like, that's Mom. Something happened to the meat. No, no, they're fine. And I could see it in my mom's eyes. Oh, you poor little bastards. And I took the first bite. Albuquerque, New Mexico. Sitting at the dinner table back when that was a thing. Took a bite of it and mine's terrible. It is not. God damn it. That's good meat. No, it's not. It's horrible. What's wrong with the burgers? I killed it. Just for nothing. You don't know. Did you tell him, Marcy? I didn't tell him anything, Dan. God damn it. You eat that. That is. You put it on your plate. You eat it. I'm like, you put it on my plate? I didn't even do that. You're making me eat. It was mule deer. And I knew it immediately because it tasted like I did it a couple.

[Brady]

Of months ago with Kirby.

[John Holmberg]

Tasted like Eric.

[Brady]

Brian gave me some hatch green chili elk sausage, and I made it with eggs and she did not know anything about.

[John Holmberg]

It's mostly pepper, I guess, if you can sausage it up. But yuck. I'd much rather have regular old sausage from the Safeway. That's how you prepare it. Nah, it isn't. Cause I can go to Safeway and grab ground chuck and eat it out of the bag, and it's good to me. You give me that with. I still have elk meat in my freezer. My dad flew out from Texas. I killed like, 75 things this year. You want some? I'm like, no. What am I gonna do with it? You put it in your freezer forever. Why? I'm never gonna cook that. There's a safe way I can walk to the Safeway. Why would I ever need elk meat? Like, I don't ever have a hankering for it, dad. Well, you. You're missing out. It's how you prepare it. I'm like, I don't have time for this. I don't want to prepare elk meat to make it taste like the stuff that's at the safe way I can walk to. You know what you're missing? I sure do. You tried to force feed me that stuff a lot when I was a kid. Javelina once.

[Brady]

Never had.

[John Holmberg]

Don't. Because it's. I. I would take a bite of your shoe after a walk through your backyard, and it hasn't been picked up for poop for a month. I would much rather eat a human foot than I would. I would eat people long before I'd ever take another bite of javelina ever in my life. I don't know whose idea that was. I think they have to eat it because they feel bad killing it if they don't.

[Brady]

Yeah. And it's pig.

[John Holmberg]

It is not. It's something else. It's something else.

[Brett]

It's like purple meat.

[John Holmberg]

It's just gross. And you just go get a scoop of dirt and shove it in your mouth and then salt it, because that's all it is. It's gross. You don't know. My dad used to get so mad, so upset, and I remember he'd come home from hunting trips, and I have my fingers crossed. Did you get one? Ah, no. Yes. I was thrilled. Nope. No chance that I was gonna get duped out of eating regular food for a couple of days. And then I came home from school one time, my buddy Sammy Armijo and I. Garage door opens up, and there's two giant mule deer capes and ladders in the garage. And just visqueen that I didn't Know what Dexter was yet? But I'd gotten an early visual of what it's gonna be. Whole garage was plastic. Oh, Dad's home early. He got one. And so did his buddy Bucky. A guy named. If a guy named Bucky's cooking for you, question the meat. Two mil deer. We're gonna be eating good for a while. You know, dad, there's a Smiths down the road here. We. We've been eating good. Your daughter's kind of fat. I'm gonna be honest with you. I nicknamed her Natalie from Facts of Life. And she gets. She's anorexic because she's kind of a little chubby. We weren't not eating good before you started killing in the Sandia Mountains.

[Brady]

Bucky's got that giant pot over that gas. Outdoor camping gas stove.

[John Holmberg]

Bucky. Bucky had propane. Bucky had propane blow up once. The back of his truck driving home. Once Bucky was alive. Like, four people were injured. And the cars behind him. The tank blew up. Like, how do you survive this thing? Oh, the meat's safe. Don't worry. I'm like, no, that's. I would have much rather had your meat explode.

[Brett]

So your dad was Christian Bale from American Psycho.

[John Holmberg]

Just with all the. Yeah, he would have. Hip to be square going while he gutted the. It was my childhood with the animals, and I used to hate opening the freezer looking for steakums and seeing those weird white wrappers. I'm like, oh, no. This is gonna be a rough weekend. He go out there and start that cruddy grill, that round, ugly Weber grill. And mine we're having. He's gonna lie about it, too. Steaks. We're having steaks. And. No, we're not. You can tell when it's cooking. The little skull and crossbones that comes up as smoke. It's like, ah, this isn't food. This is. This is a mountain lion's meal, not mine. I want some steroids. Ugh. Like, Sammy Armijo started crying. These two giant animals were hung over big ladders in the garage, bleeding out on the floor. Hey, you're home. Like, oh, you couldn't have done that in the woods? No.

[Brady]

Nothing. Smells like it.

[John Holmberg]

We're gonna be eating good for a while. Hey, look, I don't know. Mom didn't pick me up in a Conestoga wagon. We came home in a Chrysler Cordoba. I think we're okay. I think we need this. Give it to a homeless shelter, even. They'd spit it out. But they're not allowed to complain. Nope. I might drop some of that. My dad would kill me if he ever found that out. Jeffrey, Dead elk I gave you. I gave it to the homeless shelter. God damn it. Why? It's gross.

[Brady]

I'll bring the yeti over, load it up.

[John Holmberg]

You can have it. This guy says, I agree with you. I feel the same way about catfish. It's a bottom dweller and it's nasty. I used to fish for catfish in California with our neighbors from Georgia, Jimmy and his wife Martha. Oh, you get that big catfish you're gonna have yourself. We're gonna have us a good time. We're from Decatur. We ate catfish every week and she would prepare catfish. I caught a five and a half pounder. The bigger they are, the worse they taste. And I'm like, well, that's not good. But it's going to feed all of us. I'm like, let's just go to the store or a restaurant or something. I was like the most annoying eight year old ever. Why are we going to cook this? Give it to somebody who wants it. Oh, you'll see. Martha gonna make this thing taste so good. You'll be, oh, you've been mind blown, son. Mind blown. Took one bite. I'd rather kept the fish.

[Brett]

We just go get a filet of fish.

[John Holmberg]

Can't we just go to McDonald's? That ain't no fish, son. Like, this is disgusting. Martha worked real hard on that. It took me eight minutes to reel it in. I caught it. I'm the one who worked hard. I brought it to her dead. It was alive when I was wrestling with it. 7 years old. Wrestling a 5 pound catfish wasn't easy for me. Yeah, that catfish is disgusting. And I don't know what you people are doing with those sewer pickles you're pulling out of the canal. Carp. Carp if you have to devein it. If you see the vein through its skin and it's full of not edible. Oh, but carp is so good. If it was, there'd be carp restaurants. It's not good. If it was, there'd be elk and deer restaurants. It's not. They have that as a special every once in a while. The only place I ever had it that I really liked it but still wished I had a steak was I forgot the name of the place over there in old town Scottsdale. Used to have one. Might have been the Italian Grotto. But he had an elk with. Who's the dude who owned Cashmeres? What was the restaurant he had? It was good Restaurant.

[Brady]

Cowboy Chow.

[John Holmberg]

Cowboy Chow. That's the one. And they had an elk steak with coffee grounds all over it. And I don't like coffee or elk. But for some reason, good combo. The smell was better than the taste. The taste wasn't very good. Smell was good. It isn't a good combo, really, when you think about it. It's not in a home. Holmberg's morning sickness. The 98 KUPD. Holmberg's morning sickness. But for some reason, the scent was like a nice candle. And as I'm eating it, I'm like, it doesn't taste very good, but it smells. Smells like a stripper. Like, I don't want to date it. It's had that deep vanilla deliciousness that you're like, oh, my God, this makes my knees buckle. But you realize she probably hates your father and takes a pipe for money. It's the smell of sexy trouble. But my God on the right girl, that vanilla walks by, you forget all about what it stands for. You smell like vanilla. Oh, thanks. Oh, boy. I can't imagine what kind of trouble was behind you. But it's hypnotic. Don't do it. They're all. They own strippers. It's stripper stink.

[Brett]

They gotta spray that on you.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah, well, you know why?

[Brett]

The sweat and all the jakar from the Armenian guys in the corner over there.

[John Holmberg]

The combination of. Well, that's kind of. The combination of elk and coffee is. Evidently, I am wildly attracted to the combination of Drakkar and vanilla. Because when you put it together, I'm. I'm helpless. But I. I know that I don't want it in my life every day. Hey, baby. Or you come over and rub a little of the vanilla all over my drekar. You want to buy rug? I'll buy your rug, Ashmir. Okay. Anyway, yeah, I want chicken from raising canes. I want turkey from potbelly. I do not want quail from my dad's truck. That's it. That's all it comes down to. But I do admire the hunt.

[Brady]

Four to one ratio on those two. And the smaller birds, like, you know, you said the dove stew. You're like, you need 20 of them. Like a thousand.

[John Holmberg]

They make, like, a decent pot of stew, and somebody's biting into a BB and losing a crown. That's the buckshot. You gotta be careful of that. You know where I don't have to be careful of that? McDonald's. Their chicken nuggets never have BB's in them. You could sue them. McDonald's never says that's. The buckshot because they just slaughter them.

[Brady]

Properly without BB's and they serve a McDuck.

[John Holmberg]

Right. And that's proof to me it's not very good. It's like the McTamale and McDuck. If it was as good as these people say it was, it would be in restaurants. It's not. And again, I go back to my argument about tamales and white people guilt. It's just the fact that we think you can't afford a better Christmas present, so we allow tamales to run rampant through Christmas. Haven't been given tamales for no reason at all in February. If they were so good, wouldn't they be just handed over as Valentine's presents too? No, Ronnie got some for Valentine's Day.

[Brady]

She got what?

[John Holmberg]

For what?

[Brady]

Not for Val somebody. Her friend. I'll tell you exactly why her friend made a batch.

[John Holmberg]

They paid her for something thing.

[Brett]

What? Tamales.

[Brady]

It's a client of hers.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah, and they gave it to her in lieu of a tip or a little extra. It was a tray.

[Brady]

Added gift. They. They make.

[John Holmberg]

That's a tip.

[Brett]

When did she get.

[John Holmberg]

Added gift is a tip.

[Brady]

She got them last week.

[Brett]

That's because they were left over in her fridge from. From Christmas.

[John Holmberg]

That's what I. Yeah, that's exactly what it is. Were they frozen?

[Brady]

Oh, yeah.

[John Holmberg]

Brett's right.

[Brett]

Christmas tamales.

[John Holmberg]

Yep. Brett got it. Those people didn't want. Were they white people?

[Brady]

Actually, she put them in the freezer.

[John Holmberg]

But were they white people that handed this.

[Brady]

Yes. These were not made by these husband Hispanic.

[John Holmberg]

He didn't make them. His abuela might have, but. Does she live at the house?

[Brady]

Yeah, they make a billion. They say they make the big batch a couple times.

[John Holmberg]

These are Christmas ones. And they are. And they can go themselves if that's some sort of added bonus. Here's to. Did you ask for them? No, they dropped them off.

[Brady]

Ronnie always asks for.

[John Holmberg]

But she doesn't always ask for tamales from.

[Brady]

From her client.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah, she does. You can just give me tamales.

[Brady]

Oh, no, no. Not in lieu of services.

[John Holmberg]

She just asked for tomorrow. Why don't you help me out, get me some tamales. She says that every time you say bull. I don't know. That's what you just said.

[Brady]

She asked for them every time she makes them. You know, once or twice a year at Christmas.

[John Holmberg]

That's it. Christmas.

[Brady]

One big batch.

[John Holmberg]

Because it's a scam.

[Brady]

Yeah. And then they just say they show up.

[John Holmberg]

They show up just like Joseph and Mary and act like they've got no money. This is the best we could make for you for Christmas. And we whites are like, oh, what a wonderful gift from a poor Mexican. We thank you. Terrible garbage that you're making me store in my freezer for a while with that tampon string of meat in the center of that wet sock.

[Brett]

What's going to last longer? The elk in your freezer or the tamales? And Brady's freezer.

[John Holmberg]

The tamales are going close. No, Nothing lasts in Brady's freezer longer than mine. Brady has a famine every day at 4:00. He's got Sally Strothers outside making something out of this fridge.

[Brady]

Those aren't super high on my list. The tamales, they're terrible. I would take elk over tamales.

[John Holmberg]

Well, if you're in a pickle, that's quite a pickle. Take elk over tamales. I go to the Safeway and just get some more good food. Got doordash, for Christ's sake.

[Brady]

I'd make elk tamales.

[John Holmberg]

I've made a nice mush sock with elk string. Tampon string right there in the middle. Merry Christmas. We can afford nothing more than a nickel.

[Brady]

How do you open it? Just pull the string.

[John Holmberg]

What is it wrapped in? Corn husks. Oh, we got wrapping paper nowadays. What is this? It packs in the flavor. There isn't any. It's wet sock and a tampon string of beef dipped in, like, ketchup. What is this?

[Brady]

Cover them.

[John Holmberg]

Salsa berries. Yeah, that's. Look, I'm the only honest white person on the planet. Mexicans. It's a nice offer. It takes forever to stir that up in a five gallon Home Depot. Judd. And there's. You know, I don't know how you say mema in Spanish, but spitting in the thing the whole time.

[Brady]

She stirred.

[Brett]

GP Bougie much, John?

[John Holmberg]

Totally with the food. Why wouldn't I be bougie with food?

[Brady]

It's a goal.

[John Holmberg]

You know, I'm a Coney boy. I'm a Coney man. You keep your good taste and delicious, expensive food to yourselves. I like nickel mush with a line of tampon string beef that I can't identify in the center as a gift. Worst gift on the planet.

[Brady]

There is no coney on a steak 44 menu.

[John Holmberg]

There's no tamales, there's no Coney. No, we're. Tonight's special is Wagyu Coney. No, it's not. That's a bunch of bull. Nope, not a thing, you jackasses. White people finally got honest with each other and Started going, hey, this fruitcake thing enough. And those went away. It was generational. People were too polite to say that that wasn't a gift. You know what else went away as a gift? Those popcorn. Buckets of tri flavored popcorn. They're horrible. I could have cheddar crumble. They're around, but they're for the elderly. They're going to die.

[Brady]

It's holidays.

[John Holmberg]

Generational. Generationally. Those are going away. The next batch of 70 and 80 year olds that die, my age, maybe your group, my age. Not doing that for anyone ever again. You hate someone if you give.

[Brady]

They don't. They just bag it. Now they call it Chicago mix. Look, you can get the big bag.

[John Holmberg]

Oh, yeah, I've seen that. Yeah. The commemorative bucket. And it was always regular popcorn, candy corn and black licorice. I'm like, well, two of the three of these are inedible and the other. The other one that I would eat has been infiltrated by being in the same bucket with the black licorice popcorn. So now it smells funny.

[Brett]

You know what else died with the malls? Pepperidge Farms, remember, you get the summer sausage box.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah, I don't want. There's no way there.

[Brady]

You son of a. Yeah.

[John Holmberg]

You're the last generation. You're the last one hanging on to food is present.

[Brady]

Sausage.

[John Holmberg]

Oh, man. Tube.

[Brady]

Colby cheese.

[John Holmberg]

Brady Gross loves food as a gift. Pepperidge Farms like you cheap. All normal people says, you cheap mother. Go out and get me a sausage. Like I can't afford my own meal. Get me a present. My grandmother slept over a bucket for days to give you this mush. Thanks for. Thanks. I'm not eating it. I told my landscapers that time. You want tamales or. It was. It was guys working on my house. My wife makes the best tamales. And they were the ones who always. When I'd come home and they go pinch. John, what's up? Hey, guys. Everything going well? We're at lunch. What are you eating? Bologna. And they just have like a one slice of bologna. I'd see the one slice and two pieces of bread. No cheese, no mustard, nothing. So they had no palate. They had no. They had no taste.

[Brady]

No tamales today.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah. Tamales are their steak 44. And I knew I was nice to them even though every day pinch a John. What's up? That's how I'd come home for like three months. They were the nicest dudes in the world. Christmas comes along. My wife made these for you. I'm like, oh, that's very Nice. You. Thank you. And I took a bite in front of him and he could see. You don't like them so much. Mush.

[Brett]

Did you regift them to Brady?

[John Holmberg]

No, I think. I think I gave them back to him. That's a good sock. It's not for everybody. I'm like, no, laundry is not for everybody. I think this needs to go back in the wash. It's still wet.

[Brady]

You taste the bounce.

[John Holmberg]

And then. And then I. And then I. Because they called me Pinch a John. What's up? Every day, I had an open and honest conversation with them about how I only took those out of guilt because I knew they didn't have a whole lot of money. I watched them eating bologna sandwiches every day for 30 minutes. I'm like, I know you don't have any cash. So I felt guilty. And I, you know, I took it as a gift because I'm nice, but I don't have to eat it. So I figured it would be better served in your house because you're actually going to eat them. I don't want them to go to waste. And that was a nice thing to do. And he goes, you know what? I appreciate that. And I'm like, they made me like 12. You think I'm gonna eat 12 of these wet socks with a tampon string of beef in them? I'm not.

[Brady]

Did that in between digging a 400 foot trench.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah. Oh, these dudes could work, I'll tell you that. But I still didn't want their wife's food. Come on down to Tamale John's. It's not a place nobody wants them. If it was, it would be on the menu. It would be number one. When you say, what's your favorite Mexican food? Nobody eats deer meat. Nobody eats duck. Nobody's Coney's. There'd be restaurants for this stuff. There'd be an aisle for it. There's not. It's gross.

[Brady]

You won't face meat tacos.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah. That I don't understand at all. Evidently. That's really good. But you gotta change the name. You gotta Papa Johns that a little bit, because I can't. Where is this? Off the face. We carve its face off.

[Brady]

It's so tender.

[John Holmberg]

Do you hear me say the word carve? We carve. We carve it off the bone. Its face. Yes. Oh, it's diabolic. I'm not eating that. We shave its face. We carve the face off. Down. Just. How? Peel it off like a psychopath.

[Brady]

It just falls off.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah, it falls off. If you boil their head long enough. I'm like, you hear yourself talking, you crazy person. Boil their head long enough. You should never say that.

[Brett]

There's nasty white people that do that, too.

[John Holmberg]

Oh, look, it's not. Look. Yeah, they make Coneys. Nasty white people handing over Pepperidge Farms and Coneys and the thing they killed earlier that year.

[Brady]

I'm texting Ronnie right now. Coney night tonight.

[John Holmberg]

Oh, wow. I hope your credit score can survive.

[Brady]

Ding, ding. Look, it went up two points.

[John Holmberg]

John, remember yesterday's conversation of instant, unexpected ejaculation? I think you made Brady do that this morning. Talking about Pepperidge Farm. We could hear it through the speaker. Summer sausage. What? Yeah, there's certain foods that are just. We lie to each other about it. Hunters, vegans, poor people. We all accept your gifts, and then we never eat it.

[Brett]

We got people that are offering to take the elk off your hands.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah, if I still got it, I don't even know. I have to look in the. I have to look in the freezer and see. I'm almost positive that they'll give it to Brady. And if he wants to give it to you, you have to fight him for it in the parking lot.

[Brady]

There's a pecking order.

[John Holmberg]

It's like a pigeon in the thing fighting over a French fry. You're gonna. You're gonna have a battle on your hands. Let's get a wake up song. 5, 8, 5, 9, 800. All this to just want to hunt drones. Now we got to eat Pepperidge Farm. I don't know how that happens. You give us a wake up song, we'll scream it together. It's 98 KUPD. Wake up. Arizona's most powerful, powerful rock radio station.