02-19-26 - Toledo's Craigslist RV buy - We Call Kevin the Owner - 2010 - BO

Summary

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Podcast Summary: Holmberg’s Morning Sickness – 02-19-26: Toledo’s Craigslist RV Buy – Calling Kevin the Owner

Podcast: Holmberg’s Morning Sickness (98KUPD, Arizona #1 Morning Radio Show)

Date: February 19, 2026

Hosts: John Holmberg (A), Brady Bogen (B), Bret Vesely (C), Dick Toledo (D)

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Episode Overview

This episode centers on co-host Dick Toledo’s impulsive attempt to buy a 1972 Winnebago “Chieftain” RV from Craigslist following a notable financial loss on a failed home purchase. The crew debates the wisdom of this move, peppering Toledo with questions and jokes, before calling the RV’s owner, Kevin, live on air for a candid (and hilarious) negotiation. The tone is irreverent, teasing, and classic HMS, loaded with inside jokes and banter.

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Main Topics & Discussion Points

1. Toledo’s Shaky Finances & RV Obsession

• The hosts bring up Toledo’s recent loss of $4,400 on a home deal gone bad and joke about his sudden interest in buying a $650 vintage RV (00:39–02:20).
  • John (A): “At that time, it wasn’t like you’d saved $20,000 … and now all of a sudden you’re looking to buy a second home on wheels. Are you about to get kicked out of your house?”
  • Brady (B): Explains he just wants to recapture childhood memories of camping with “Uncle Ronnie.”
• Heavy skepticism from everyone else about the RV’s condition, age, and Toledo’s true motivations.

2. RV Nostalgia – Or Just Bad Ideas?

• The gang riff on the appeal (or lack thereof) of old RVs vs. actual “classics” (02:19–03:40).
  • John: “There’s a difference between a ‘65 Mustang and a ’72 Winnebago … Anybody asking $650 to take a vehicle … tells me get her outta here.”
  • Bret (RV expert): Throws shade at Chieftain’s value and the reliability of anything from the 1970s.
• They question why Toledo, who never voiced interest in RVs, is obsessed now.

3. Calling Kevin – The Craigslist RV Seller

• The team phones Kevin, the seller, leading to a candid, at times surreal, negotiation and discussion (06:39–15:32).
• First Impressions: Kevin sounds distracted (“I got kiddos running around my house.” – 07:03) and is candid about needing money for “medical bills.”
• On the RV’s Condition:
  • Kevin: “Well, not. You can’t drive it.” (08:00)
  • John: “So what is it, Toledo? How am I gonna get it out?” (08:08)
  • Kevin: “I recommend you get a big ol’ tow truck … I sleep there sometimes, I imagine.” (08:39)
  • Confirms the engine will turn over (sometimes), the fifth tire is in the bag, the mattress is original, and some interior, plumbing, and paneling need replacement.
• On Memories & History:
  • RV inherited from Kevin’s dad; “been through many women, many fishing trips … two divorces.” (10:57)
• The Best Offer Segment:
  • Kevin’s price quickly drops from $650 to $460, then $410, ultimately negotiating for cash and a Jackyl chainsaw from the radio crew (13:46–15:06, see notable quote below).

4. Buyer’s Remorse, Inspection Woes & Daydreams

• The crew jokes about the likely disasters ahead, like the plumbing (“Can you poo in it?” “Part of the stuff that needs the work.” – 12:02), dangerous repairs, and why Toledo’s ex-wife is already objecting to their son camping in it (17:13–17:16).
• Bret: Warns about 100+ hours of necessary work at $50/hour for labor; “You’re gonna die in that.” (16:47)

5. Memorable Banter & Hypotheticals

• Fantasize about road-tripping the Chieftain, selling tickets to pay for the repairs, and setting up stunts (18:01, 18:26–18:39).
• Ponder whether Kevin used the RV for more illicit purposes, but John waves this away as unhelpful for the deal.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On buying questionable old RVs – John (02:36):
  “There’s a difference between a ‘65 Mustang and a ’72 Winnebago … Anybody asking for $650 to take a vehicle or best offer—and they’re willing to move on that price—tells me get her outta here.”
• Kevin, on the RV’s best use (12:02):
  • John: “Does the bathroom work?”
  • Kevin: “You can … you can pee in it.”
• Negotiating with Kevin (13:46–15:06):
  • John: “350 and a Jackyl chainsaw.”
  • Kevin: “That’d be great.”
  • John: “You’ll take that deal?”
  • Kevin: “When do I get it?”
• On buyer’s remorse – John to Toledo (16:47):
  “You’re gonna die in that.”
  “Is that gonna—that’s gonna be a pungent buyer’s remorse. You’re gonna smell it on you.”
• Toledo’s ex-wife weighs in – Toledo (17:16):
  “No way are you taking my child.”

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• 00:39–02:20: Explaining Toledo’s financial hit and sudden RV interest
• 03:40–05:45: Banter on 1970s RVs vs. classics; questioning Toledo’s true motives
• 06:39–15:32: Call with Kevin: RV’s history, condition, “negotiation,” best offer
• 16:47: “You’re gonna die in that” (host warnings about the RV’s state)
• 17:13–17:16: “No way are you taking my child” (Toledo’s ex-wife’s reaction)
• 18:26–18:39: Crew daydreams about a radio show RV road trip

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Tone & Takeaways

The episode is a master class in good-natured ribbing, Arizona inside jokes, and scattershot comedy. The team uses Toledo’s Craigslist find as a jumping off point to poke fun at each other’s life choices, reminisce about bad purchases, and engage in absurd banter with a Craigslist seller who sounds every bit his $410 medical bill.

If you missed it, the real “content” is in the banter—equal parts roasting, nostalgia, and veiled concern for Toledo’s future as an RV owner.

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Summary compiled by podcast summarizer AI | Original episode at 98KUPD

Transcript

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[C]

We gotta get ourselves a Chieftain.

[B]

Who says I'm pulling back?

[A]

Now, let's be completely honest here. You've had a couple of incidents here recently with a home purchase that did went south.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

And you lost a little bit of dough.

[B]

I lost about $4,400. Right.

[A]

And it was $4,400. That was. It did kicked you in the shorts a little bit. Yeah.

[C]

It kicked anybody in the shorts.

[A]

Yeah. Oh, yeah. No, I'm just saying at that time, it wasn't like you'd saved $20,000 and said, okay, I only lost 10 TVs. Oh, that's not turning us into an Obama rally. Okay. Anywho, you're not as lucky as some people. Right. We'll say it that way. And then so you've got yourself a little bit of a financial strap. Not two months ago.

[D]

You've got.

[A]

So then you can see our surprise when all of a sudden you're doing printouts of Winnebagos and Chieftains. Yeah.

[C]

After the 4400 large that you're all of a sudden.

[A]

Yeah, you're all 650.

[B]

Sounds like a great deal.

[A]

Yeah. It's the 44 large. And now all of a sudden you're looking to buy a second home on wheels. And we're starting to wonder, are you about to get kicked out of your house? No. What's the backstory here on the want of these 38 year old Winnebago 4.

[B]

I want to get him out of

[A]

the house, then get him out by a tent.

[C]

Rent one.

[B]

I have great memories of going my uncle in the camper as a kid.

[A]

Oh, jeez. There was more than one victim in the RV at once.

[C]

What's that scout leader's name?

[A]

Yeah. Where's he now?

[B]

Ronnie.

[A]

Where is. Is his name Ronnie? Uncle Ronnie? What federal prison is he in?

[B]

Deer Lodge, Mon.

[A]

Is he in deer Lodge?

[C]

Okay, what kind of ride did he have at the time?

[A]

Probably 72 chieftain class.

[B]

He's a cab over pickup camper.

[A]

Oh, okay. And it's fun when you're a kid. It's fun.

[B]

It's great.

[C]

Oh, it is.

[A]

But as a kid, you didn't realize the pain that Uncle Ron through pouring cash into that. That's why we bring in our resident RV expert, Brett Besley, Overnight girl who used to work on rvs and probably will now have a new side job when Toledo does. Oh, no. I asked him a text.

[B]

I sent him the text the day

[A]

I found it and I said I would go look at it. Laughing while I'm looking at the pictures that he sent over. A 72 chieftain is a guy who's been around a lot of recreational vehicles. Quality purchase Winnebago. No, no. It's just a bad idea, right? Yeah, it's a pilot.

[B]

Is it because it's the 70s or it's because it's a kind of both.

[A]

Yeah, it's kind of anything from the seventies that's for sale.

[C]

Work on a Clark Cortez?

[A]

No.

[C]

Okay.

[A]

No. Look, for my type, look, if something's older than me and you're, you know, it's. I. It's not even that. If it's a classic and it's older than you, it's not 700 bucks. There's a difference between a 65 Mustang and a 72 Winnebago. I mean, that's a. Anybody asking for $650 to take a vehicle or best offer or bet. Yeah. And they're willing to move on that price. They're not firm there. Tells me get her out of here.

[E]

Yeah.

[A]

This. This is more of a. This is clogging up my dirt backyard. Right?

[C]

Yeah. So with that being said, Brett, what. What would you buy if you were

[A]

to buy your Toledo and you have to buy your 4 year old boy a new house and we don't understand what's happening. We don't know the backstory. There's something else.

[C]

What could you spend? It's something that might run for a couple of months.

[A]

Full disclosure for a couple months. Yeah. What'll get him to pay? What'll get him to pay? At least spend over $11,000. I mean, come on, you, you can go buy a Trek 10 speed. That's worth more than this Winnebago.

[C]

Yeah, I mean, come on. You don't get rear dining.

[A]

That's true.

[D]

Yeah, you got me there.

[A]

That's true. You don't have a rear dining area and a, and a 38 year old mattress.

[B]

Who says I'm keeping the mattress?

[A]

You're keeping. What are you gonna upgrade to the 72 chieftain? You're gonna pour money into this pillow top? Oh, God. What's the story?

[B]

What story?

[A]

There's a story here you're not spilling. It's out of nowhere. You want to buy an older is out of nowhere. I've never, I've known you now for about seven years. I have never once said, man, I cannot wait until I have my own rv. It's never fallen from your face.

[C]

You more for a bass tracker before?

[A]

Yeah, this is. It would be the same if Pluto all of a sudden wanted a bass tracker.

[D]

Why?

[A]

You don't even fish. I've been fishing. I know you've been fish. So have I. But that doesn't, you know, you know, I've jumped, but it doesn't mean I want to go to the moon.

[C]

It's, it's gotta be. It's pretty spontaneous Toledo.

[B]

I mean, I took kids camping like a month ago. We had a great time. So I thought about, you know, how are we gonna do this differently? Saw some of the RVs that were there.

[A]

You're gonna get kicked out of your house. I'm not gonna get kicked out of your house. Something's wrong with your, with your living situation.

[B]

Yes, golden moments we'd have on the show. If I was getting kicked out of my house, I'd cop.

[A]

That's what I'm trying to get you to cop to. Because who buys a 40 year old the $650 house? Who.

[B]

This a renovation project.

[A]

You don't have any money. You, you just got kicked in the shorts. Now you're going to renovate an RV Anyway. Anyway, we're going to call the guy who runs this thing, Kevin, who owns it, and we're going to talk to Kevin.

[C]

Or what do you call him?

[A]

Cooter in Hazard county or what? I don't know.

[B]

No, he's in central Phoenix, isn't he?

[A]

He's in the West Valley. Oh. 72 Chieftain, Class A camper. Five good tires as we just learned. It takes six. Rear dining model needs some work. Engine most likely needs timing change. Shift cable for transmission make a great restoration project. Which is spelled wrong.

[D]

Hello?

[A]

Is this Kevin?

[D]

Yeah, it is.

[A]

Kevin, this is John Holmberg from 98 KUPD. How are you?

[D]

Hey, I'm doing all right. All right, hold on one second here.

[A]

Oh, no.

[C]

No way.

[A]

Kevin, what is happening? Hey, Kevin.

[D]

I got kiddos running around my house.

[A]

All right, you're on the air live. Is that okay? I don't want to get in trouble with you.

[D]

Oh, I guess that proudly sounded bad. Yeah, no, go ahead, that's fine.

[A]

Ok. Hey, Kevin, you've got this. We're calling about the Craigslist ad. You've got this Winnebago for sale. $650.

[C]

The Chieftain.

[A]

The Chieftain. Now, first off, why you parting with this gem?

[D]

Well, you know, I just got. I got some medical bills.

[A]

$650 worth of medical bills.

[D]

Yeah, well, not that much. I want the rest of the money to do some other stuff with maybe around the apartment.

[A]

Okay, so you've got this parked at someone's house?

[D]

Yeah, my brother in law, he doesn't loan it there anymore, so I'm trying to get it out of his hair too, and, and just get some cash.

[A]

Okay. Is it. Does it run?

[D]

Well, not. You can't drive it.

[A]

So what is it? Just Toledo?

[B]

How am I gonna get it out?

[C]

Closing this deal?

[A]

The. Yeah, you can be quiet over there. You. You can't drive it. But it does run

[D]

it. Yeah, you can turn it on.

[A]

Okay, so it turns it.

[C]

You said it needs a timing belt and a couple other things. But the engine will turn over if you get that going and.

[D]

Right. It might go off after you turn it on.

[A]

Right. So it's got absolutely no go off. Do you have any questions?

[D]

I recommend you get a big old tow truck or something. And then, I mean, it's a good, good vehicle. I. I sleep there sometimes, I imagine.

[C]

So the cabin's in good shape.

[D]

Oh, yeah. I mean, look at it in the picture. Maybe use some new paneling in areas where there. There's a hole in it or something.

[A]

Right. Well, it's 40 years old. You can't expect it to look brand new.

[C]

How old is the mattress? Is that the original mattress?

[A]

Oh, God.

[D]

Oh, yeah.

[A]

All right, Kevin, Brett, Campers and knock or two about that in a second, Kevin. But we have a guy who works on RVs, has a couple. I don't know anything about him, so. Well, I mean, Kevin, how come you know it says it's got five brand new tires?

[D]

Where.

[A]

Where's the sixth one? Take six to run.

[D]

Well, we got that one in the rear right back there. We got the. We got two on each side. That's four. And then we. Yeah, we had the one in the bag. That's five.

[A]

So there's no front tires.

[C]

What, you're saying it's not a Dooley?

[D]

No, I. I sold the back two. The extras on the back, too. I needed some money for medical bills.

[A]

Are those extra tires, Brett? Are they necessary for weight? Usually they're pretty. So those. Those weren't just. Those weren't just extra tires.

[B]

So I'm in. Two tires.

[A]

How much do you think it would cost to restorate this thing, Kevin, to museum quality?

[D]

Probably a couple hundred dollars. I mean, if you do it right.

[A]

What, $800?

[D]

I mean, it depends what you want to do with it. I mean, you got. You got stuff new in the. In the bedroom and.

[C]

Did you camp in it?

[A]

Yeah. Did you take a camp, kids?

[D]

Oh, yeah. Oh, man. We used to go up to Bartlett and we would just park in fish, and we'd have drinking the beer contest, and it was good.

[A]

All right. So it's. It's been around a little bit.

[D]

Oh, yeah.

[A]

How old a fella are you, Kevin?

[D]

Excuse me?

[A]

How old are you? Can I ask?

[D]

I'm 43.

[A]

Okay. I don't know. I was just curious. I couldn't really get a gauge on the noise. He's the same age as you. Toledo, for God's sake. Same age as the motorhome, for God's sakes. So are you gonna be sad parting with it, Kevin, or is this a tough one? Or is it something you just can't wait to get rid of?

[D]

You know, it's got a lot of good memories for me. I mean, it was passed down from my daddy, and he gave it over to me when he couldn't use it anymore. And so I, you know, has been through many women, many fishing trips. It's been through two divorces, and it's. It's.

[A]

You are a salesman, Kevin. You're selling me on this thing. Now you say it's 650. You're the best offer. What's the wiggle room?

[D]

Oh, there.

[A]

Well, if we give you 400 bucks

[C]

I got.

[A]

What's the best trip? What's the best trip you ever had?

[D]

How about 460?

[A]

Well, we'll think about that. What's the best trip? You better sell me. Sell me, Kevin, the best trip you

[D]

ever took in that I went to Vegas in it. Just parked it there in the desert. But I got. Well, I don't know what I could say and what I can.

[A]

Be careful. It's on radio. And you just don't worry about that. The. The bathroom work,

[D]

you can. You can pee in it.

[C]

You wouldn't recommend the dumping in it.

[A]

Okay. In the bathroom.

[D]

Part of the stuff that needs the work.

[A]

Brett. Brett, is that tough to do?

[B]

Can you do that work?

[A]

No, I don't work with work with the tanks.

[C]

But it wouldn't be that hard and it Just hooking up the hose or something.

[A]

No, it's a little more involved than that tank of nasty.

[D]

Why don't you just put a hole

[C]

in it and drop it on the road? That. That always goes in the well, doesn't it?

[A]

He's got his kids.

[C]

Kids must come back in.

[A]

Hey, Kevin. Kevin. What in the world? Sorry about that. That's all right. Kevin. So $400 is a. 460. Is your. Your breaking point? Huh? What kind of medical bills do you have? What's wrong?

[D]

It's my leg. It goes numb and I just fall down and it's back problem and I'll be in Walmart and I'll. I'll be shopping and next thing you know I'm on the ground and I'm getting woken up.

[A]

All right. Kevin, are you.

[C]

If we throw a couple of tickets into the.

[A]

You.

[C]

The Jackal ride.

[A]

Oh, that.

[C]

Tomorrow. Do you ride motorcycles or.

[A]

I wouldn't want him riding a motorcycle. That leg. That's true. You don't want to do that.

[D]

I had a motorcycle once and it was awesome.

[A]

Do you have. I like you.

[C]

You had all the toys, haven't you? Kevin?

[A]

Kevin. You kind of rule about an autographed chainsaw. There you go. Trade for the. For the chief. Are you. Are you. What kind of music do you listen to, Kevin?

[D]

I like you guys. You guys are good.

[A]

Well, thank you. So you're a Rock fan?

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

All right. So would you be interested in a Jackal chainsaw? Jesse James Dupree jackal chainsaw and 350. 350 and a jackal chainsaw.

[D]

That'd be great.

[A]

You'll take that deal?

[D]

When do I get it?

[A]

When can we get.

[C]

Probably next early next week. Sometime on the.

[A]

When do we see the rv?

[B]

Maybe Friday night.

[A]

It could be Friday. Roll the chieftain down.

[D]

My brother in law's got some company and so they're staying in it. Yeah.

[A]

Oh, so it's being used.

[D]

There's like six of them.

[A]

So it's comfortable.

[C]

It says it sleeps six.

[D]

Yeah, yeah, that's gotta be. Someone's probably on the floor.

[A]

All right, so it's comfortable. You can get four. But a father and his four year old boy could go deep into the woods.

[C]

So when did the spring breakers leave?

[D]

Yeah, they are. I don't know.

[A]

All right, Kevin. Kevin. 350 and the chainsaw and we have a deal.

[D]

Oh, are you looking for a trade?

[A]

Yeah, yeah. $350.

[D]

You were just giving me the chainsaw.

[A]

No, we're throwing that in as part of the price, Kevin.

[D]

So the chainsaw and the 406, 350.

[A]

The chainsaw. The chainsaws were 300. 400 in the chainsaw, Kevin. Wow.

[D]

410 in the chainsaw.

[A]

410 in the chainsaw. Toledo. Swing it, Toledo. 410 in the chainsaw.

[C]

Guys got medical bills.

[A]

Toledo, he's got medical bills.410 in the chainsaw going once.

[B]

I have to secure the chainsaw, but I'm in.

[A]

You're 410 and the chainsaw. Without the chainsaw you can't do it, right? We haven't, Kevin. Is that okay by you?

[D]

Yeah,

[A]

we just got a cheap.

[D]

I'll make some calls and see when those people are going to be out. You don't want them in there.

[A]

No, you don't? No, they don't come with it, Kevin. You rule. Hold on a second. Okay.

[D]

Thanks, buddy.

[A]

Easy enough. There you go. Kevin the weirdo.

[B]

Today we got to go.

[A]

Look at it. Look at. No, no, no, no. Look at. That's a diamond. You already made the deal. You made the deal.

[B]

You just bring it up right here and if I get the chainsaw?

[A]

We'll get you the chainsaw. What kind of medical bills can this guy have for $410? I mean, what's he doing buying pseudo ephedrine? Is he cooking meth in this thing or what? Probably. I don't want to ask.

[C]

You trying to ruin a deal.

[A]

Yeah, don't wreck the deal. Shut up. Figured out he's unholy. I'm the one, I have to work on this thing.

[C]

So let's pinch him out of some

[A]

more dough and if he, if he decides to back out on the chainsaw, we'll just buy a chainsaw yeah. Let's have Larry McFeely. Nobody's gonna know he's still on hold. The world of business. He's talking to his kids, I'm sure yelling at him. I've got him on. I've got him on.

[C]

His brother in law's relief

[B]

people out of the army.

[A]

I still don't think I understand the tire situation. I don't either. Some were sold.

[C]

There's some math problems.

[B]

Are they. Are they 60 different sizes?

[C]

Dually on the back.

[A]

You know what I know?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

You're gonna die in that.

[B]

No way.

[A]

Yes you are. Yes you are. There's no doubt in my brain. You're gonna pass away. This is awesome. This chief on life insurance. Do you have the buyer's remorse yet? You haven't even seen it. You will, man. Is that gonna. That's gonna be a pungent buyer's remorse. You're gonna smell it on you.

[C]

Call Alexander.

[D]

Oh yeah.

[A]

Call the boys.

[C]

Daddy's got an rv.

[A]

What's an rv?

[C]

Damn it.

[B]

The ex wife's already chiming in.

[A]

What'd she say?

[B]

No way are you taking my child.

[A]

See, Don, I'm with you on this. Don. Don. There's gotta be some new broad in like Maricopa that goes, I love me camping and I'm buying a chieftain. She's my dream woman. I'm gonna marry you camping woman. Anyway, so there you go. Toledo. Brett, you've got a lot of work

[B]

you gotta do for daycare.

[C]

I know.

[A]

See, this is what I'm talking about. You don't have any money for this. This is what I'm confused about. You got bills.

[B]

I'm good.

[A]

I know you're all right. You're not destitute. But this is gonna make you that way. You're in trouble.

[C]

Would you like to treat some newer ass payday stuntman?

[A]

Yeah. Would you like to be the new payday stuntman? Jump the rv, buy the rv. That's the biggest payday man we've ever done. Brett, what's it going to cost an hour for you to work on this thing? Because you got. You got about 100 hours of work in this. We're looking at at least 50 bucks an hour just to even touch this thing.

[B]

Three tickets to you fest.

[A]

Yeah. No, you can't be there. Anyway. This is awesome. I cannot wait for the first call from death bucket. I hope it.

[C]

I hope it happens.

[A]

Me too.

[B]

I'm calling you.

[A]

I know you're not calling me because all you'll hear is don't worry. I'll conference you in hysterical laughter yeah, put me on Skype. We just got Toledo, a chieftain, 1972

[B]

Texas, asking if we can pull off a trip with me in the Chieftain.

[A]

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