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Summary

Holmberg's Morning Sickness - Arizona | Episode: February 21, 2025

Host: John Holmberg
Co-Hosts: Brady Bogen, Bret Vesely, Dick Toledo
Broadcast: 98 KUPD | Hubbard Radio
Duration: 5:30 AM - 10:00 AM Weekdays

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1. International Hockey Showdown: USA vs. Canada

Timestamp: [00:39] - [10:00]

The episode kicks off with an enthusiastic discussion about the recent international hockey series between the United States and Canada. John Holmberg expresses his admiration for the intense rivalry and the potential for such matchups to boost viewership and national pride.

• John Holmberg: "Could you imagine a seven-game series between Canada and the United States? What the ratings would be like... it's the perfect video game. 99 versus 99."

The hosts debate the feasibility and entertainment value of pitting these two nations against each other in a high-stakes tournament. They ponder the idea of integrating national pride into sports, suggesting scenarios where the outcome could influence political or economic relationships between the countries.

• Brady Bogen: "They did a pretty good job [hosting the game]."

• Bret Vesely: "We really need them that bad."

John contemplates the impact such series could have on the sports industry, including potential financial benefits and increased viewership. The conversation highlights the passionate nature of sports fans and the lengths to which hosts believe could elevate the sport's status nationally.

2. Glendale Murder Case: A Twisted Tale of Betrayal and Crime

Timestamp: [17:00] - [25:00]

The discussion takes a dark turn as the hosts delve into a high-profile murder case from Glendale. Kimberly Lacount is accused of masterminding the murder of her trans husband, Alex (formerly Alice), with the assistance of her secret lover, Kipling Harris. The crime resulted in the deaths of Alex and Alex's parents, Peggy and Bob Kuhn.

• John Holmberg: "She's being prosecuted. She could get the death penalty for masterminding this murder."

The hosts dissect the case details, emphasizing the complex relationships and the motivations behind the crime. They explore the societal and personal factors that may have contributed to Kimberly's actions, including the challenges faced by transgender individuals in relationships.

• John Holmberg: "How in the world have we not wrapped our arms around this in the state of Arizona?"

Bret Vesely questions the timing and public awareness of the case, highlighting its sensational nature akin to "80s soap operas."

• Bret Vesely: "This is straight out of like 80s soap operas. You can't come up with this stuff. It's truth is fiction is reality."

The conversation also touches upon the legal complexities of the case, such as determining the sequence of events during the shootings, and speculates on potential media portrayals of the incident.

3. The Role of Social Media in True Crime Documentation

Timestamp: [25:00] - [38:00]

John Holmberg shifts the focus to the influence of social media and personal video footage on true crime documentaries. He argues that the abundance of personal videos and social media content has revolutionized how such stories are told, making it easier for documentarians to piece together narratives.

• John Holmberg: "Future murder documentaries... you've got so much footage of yourself, everything. It makes the documentaries great."

The hosts discuss the ethical considerations of using personal footage in documenting crimes, referencing cases like Gabby Petito, where AI was used to recreate the victim's voice from diary entries.

• John Holmberg: "They used AI to read it as her. They even said so. They're like, look, we're gonna read the parts of the diary that are read are in Gabby's voice through to artificial intelligence stuff."

Brady Bogen and Bret Vesely contribute to the conversation by highlighting how mundane or personal content can inadvertently become valuable in reconstructing events surrounding a crime. They also touch upon the privacy implications and the voyeuristic tendencies of audiences seeking such content.

4. Critique of Hosts' Own Social Media Presence

Timestamp: [38:00] - [45:00]

In a self-referential segment, the hosts humorously critique their own and each other's social media content. John Holmberg specifically targets Brady's Instagram, suggesting that without sensational events, the content remains uninteresting.

• John Holmberg: "Brady's IG would be too boring for the doc."

The banter continues with playful jabs at each other's personal lives and social media habits, reflecting the show's signature humorous and sometimes abrasive style. The discussion underscores the show's theme of questioning and challenging norms, even within their own circle.

• John Holmberg: "Nobody wants to see a bunch of videos of my kids standing there. No. Not a soul outside of you is interested in that."

Brady Bogen and Brett Vesely respond in kind, maintaining the light-hearted but critical tone as they navigate the conversation about personal privacy versus public interest in the digital age.

5. Closing Remarks and Final Banter

Timestamp: [45:00] - [44:00]

The episode wraps up with continued light-hearted banter, reinforcing the camaraderie and comedic dynamic among the hosts. They joke about future episodes, potential content, and tease each other regarding their on-air personas and personal antics.

• John Holmberg: "Nobody wants to see that broken out at all."

The hosts conclude by promoting the show's connection to their listeners and teasing upcoming content, ensuring the audience remains engaged and entertained.

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Notable Quotes:

• John Holmberg [00:39]: "Could you imagine a seven-game series between Canada and the United States? What the ratings would be like... it's the perfect video game. 99 versus 99."

• Bret Vesely [25:00]: "This is straight out of like 80s soap operas. You can't come up with this stuff. It's truth is fiction is reality."

• John Holmberg [38:00]: "Brady's IG would be too boring for the doc."

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Conclusion

This episode of Holmberg's Morning Sickness offers a blend of intense sports commentary, a deep dive into a dramatic local crime case, and a meta-discussion on the impact of social media on media consumption and true crime documentation. The hosts' dynamic interplay ensures that listeners are both informed and entertained, maintaining Arizona's #1 morning radio show's reputation for engaging and provocative content.

Transcript

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[Brady]

Thought that was funny. You were laughing like a hyena when he said it.

[John Holmberg]

What the hell is wrong with you? Good morning, everybody. Hello there. Welcome to Friday. It's 5:45. This is the morning sickness. My name's John. There's Brady, there's Brett, there's big Dick Toledo, and, well, let's just get it out of the way right off the bat. Go love. Sing to the overlords in all of God's command Going strong and free. Sorry that happened last night. They got us. They win on a game that.

[Brady]

What a game.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah. Amazing. Amazing series. Amazing everything. Canada wins in a overtime thriller. And the thing was just, man, you could strap USA on the jerseys of most athletes and then throw them out there for a sport nobody cares about, ever. Women's soccer, for God's sakes, gets huge ratings when it's USA versus and there's something on the line.

[Brady]

They got a year's worth after the fact.

[John Holmberg]

They tried to get a year. They did not. They did not get a few months. They got a lot of yelling and screaming, but they won the. You know, back in. Was it 99. They got that huge win against China, and everybody's like, well, there's the next biggest sport in the world, women's soccer. And it was nuts. And then we discovered, oh, no, we're just a bunch of crazy athlete patriots. So they tried and they're like, we'll start a league and girls will start playing. And then it was just ghost town after ghost town when you tried. How can you. You unite an entire nation? I mean, we all have something in common for the first time. And then you go back to Columbus versus Portland. Nobody's going to ever watch that. So same with hockey. It's. It. Drew, hockey is a great sport, but I don't care when Tampa plays Nashville. And it's probably good teams and stuff, you Just it. Basketball's got the same problem. I mean you just wait until it matters. Unless I got a horse in the race, I'll go down watch Sons. But when they suck, I'm not going out of my way to watch this stuff. Now you throw USA on their shirts and make it worth something. I could. Could you imagine a seven game series between Canada and the United States? What the ratings would be like? Because they would go seven games. These two teams are identically matched. It's. It's a, it's the perfect video game. 99 versus 99. It's, it was outrageously good. Just great sports and you know when the flags are on the line. Ah, I thought last night that we should offer up a seven game series to Canada and winner take all win the series. United States wins it. Canada's a state like you keep. And then if they lose like if, if. Then we are their military for like until they in for two years. Like we do it every two years like they don't have to pay for anything militarily. We'll go up there and be their guys and we'll pay for it because I think it would be worth it. And plus revenue alone on those. If you put giant stakes on this thing like you know Trudeau gets to do like two their, their prime minister gets to do two laws here in the United States. If the Canadians win like two big ones and he has to announce them before and they're probably pretty crazy. So pass two laws, they'll both be Canada favorable. Or we just make Canada a state and then they can they have to fight for their statehood or their, their sovereignty every two years. That hundred hundreds of millions would watch anyway. What don't you think we kind of.

[Brady]

Do that anyway on the. I mean the wages would say we'll.

[John Holmberg]

Be their military, we are their military. But I mean we'd officially make it so you can like those dudes never have to worry about anything USA all first and I know they probably don't but Canada acts like they've been in wars and stuff but they've been behind us in wars but like some sort of finance. I'm just throwing something out there. Some sort of financial benefit or. You're a goddamn state. Yeah, you're racing for pinks. You're throwing. Yeah you're racing for states or you know they get a state for a year that's a Canadian state now and then we have to like flip flop everything. It's always just like a push of a button ready to go. We Want Arizona this year. I'm like, come on, you're fighting for Arizona. Could you imagine? I mean, it would be incredible. Incredible. Incredible. They can have California. I think I'd throw that match. But you go.

[Brady]

Maybe move the line a little bit. Go along Montana. Give him, like, 25 miles.

[John Holmberg]

Scoot more. You get some. You get a bite of America. God damn it. And then a bunch of people in, like, White River, Montana would be like, oh, we're Canadian for a little bit.

[Brett]

We really need them that bad.

[John Holmberg]

I mean, Canada.

[Brett]

I mean, how much syrup and Moosehead beer do we drink in this country?

[John Holmberg]

You know what, though? Just to have it. It's ours. There's, like, oil.

[Brett]

We have Tucson, too.

[Brady]

Timber.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah. And then we'd start playing Mexico for. I bet your soccer team would get better if Mexico's like, hey, how about a little friendly? Like, we get some of America. We've already got a good portion. No, like, officially, like, oh, Jesus Christ, no.

[Brett]

Dallas.

[Brady]

We get thin.

[John Holmberg]

All of a sudden, our soccer team would get real good, real fast. Real good, real fast. My guess is Ronaldo would be a resident of Florida, like Perman. And he. But, yeah, just put it on the line because I was Every single, you know, trip across the blue line, Mike. I'm like, oh, come on. Come on. And then overtime. Oh, us was just pumping the goalie for Canada was crushing it. And now go back to watching Columbus and Carolina. Nobody's gonna. Who cares? There's nothing. There's nothing meaningful anymore. That meant a ton. Next year's the Olympics. They're gonna go at. And don't forget, you got a couple other countries like Sweden and, you know, there's some of the European teams that you got some. Got some power over there that can knock off Canada or the United States anytime. Oh, that was so fun. That was. We got it. We got to have more. I think the hockey. The hockey gods just saw. Oh, we need to be more like soccer. We need a separate league of. Of countries playing each other. Like, that's what this. That's what this is. Like, the way soccer just in the middle of the season has, like, a tournament, a real one of just countries. And it's huge. It's not even the World Cup. It's just. They do it every year. It's great. Those guys never stop playing. One thing I'll give soccer players as floppy and weird as they are, there's their one season ends, they start another season with another league, and then that ends, and they got another one.

[Brady]

Could we borrow that player For a year. Yes. Go right ahead.

[John Holmberg]

Right on. But he plays up here at wherever, whatever stupid name football club of blank is. And then he goes and plays for Spain and they got real Argentina and they get the World games. It's like a war. Oh, that was so much fun last night.

[Brett]

I didn't watch it. So no fights?

[John Holmberg]

No, it was clean last night.

[Brett]

Any booing during the national anthems?

[John Holmberg]

A little smattering of booze for Canada in the beginning. But when they won it all, they raised their flag, did the old Canada with the team on the ice. And what's going on with Boston?

[Brett]

Well, Boston, I mean, they just chilled out now. And that was in Boston. I mean, they'd be booing like crazy.

[Brady]

They did a pretty good job.

[John Holmberg]

They booed a little, but there was a lot of Canadians in the crowd. But they cheered. They cheered louder.

[Brady]

A lot of USA chance.

[Brett]

Boston, come on.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah, they were stepping up. Boston. You were hoping for it, but I don't know, maybe that was just the broadcast. Maybe ESPN bounced out all the racist booing.

[Brett]

Turn into the scumbags you normally are.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah, you're Boston. You've got a reputation uphold, and that's being a bunch of unlikable pricks who are way too into one thing at a time. Like Duncan and Ben Affleck and the Bruins and stuff like that. And the Red Sox, for God's sake. You're a bunch of creeps. Yeah, you're creepy. All the Patriots. You're creepy weirdos. Be that when we need you. Boston, come on. But it was. Yeah, it was. That was. That was mind numbing. I tried to get things done and just. I'd freeze, watch hockey for a while. I got in there, I started to. I was trying to work out and the TV's on, so I'm just staring at it. I'm like, ah, back to what I'm doing. Focus. And it was just so great. And that overtime was a blast. So live sports is where it's at for entertainment now. And that's all we got. But I think. I think the ratings for that will be great. People who don't care about hockey, me watched, you know, from the puck drop to the end. And I like hockey as a sport. I don't. I mean, we. We got strapped with the Coyotes and probably going to get them again. Oh, that would be a good one. One year. If us plays for franchises, you get a Canadian, then. So then you just lose a franchise. So Canada like this, this Maple Leaves or something. So it's like the Tampa Bay Lightning are now up for grabs. Like, it's pink slips. I like that we play for slips. All right, here we go. We got this team and that. And there's teams that are like cities that will actually lose something substantial to them.

[Brady]

Yeah, I was going to say we'd have. I was thinking of one, but it'd be more to lose on our part. Like, if they swapped out, they could program Monday Night Football. We could take Hockey Night Friday.

[John Holmberg]

Oh, they get control of our football. They. Oh, God, we. Okay, there's a good one then. I like that. Is that if Canada Wins, we add 10 more yards to our football fields and 10 more to each end zone. One of those Canadian football fields. I don't know. It was just awesome. It was just awesome. But I got. I got super excited about it last night, and I just started thinking this would be pretty good. If Canada plays for statehood, like, and it can't be touched. And then they put something online. You got to put something up. And I hate when that happens. Like, usually it's like the mayors of each city. The mayor of Phoenix has offered up some chimichangas if they. Oh, Christ. Nobody cares. When mayors, they bet a T shirt because they've got a T shirt factory.

[Brady]

Put it on.

[John Holmberg]

This one did. It's Nashville. So they did figurines of Elvis and Wisconsin will give them a year's worth of cheese. Like, that's dumb.

[Brady]

And those guys that played last night, one day back on the ice on Saturday with their club.

[John Holmberg]

So long, boys. Great time. And then, yeah, as their buddies are.

[Brady]

Coming back from vacation, the best part.

[John Holmberg]

Was a few dudes playing for Canada played on the same team as a few dudes from the US and they're banging into each other like they didn't care. There was just so much heart in it. You don't see authentic fights, authentic heart, authentic feeling. Like you did through this. You put seven games between those two on tv, and, man, you're selling hockey like you can't imagine. John Holmberg's morning sickness. The 98 KUPD, Holmberg's morning sickness, because that did wonders for hockey. But again, I don't believe that. That's. Like, they think the sport won. It's just nationalism. One, we. We love the USA like crazy. Canada is a non war threat. So you can have a little brotherly, you know, kind of sibling rivalry with Canada. It's more just, we love each other. We just, you know, we've got a couple little issues between each other. It's family. And then we got that weird cousin down there called Mexico that keeps looking at us like, jesus, they're nuts. But they're around. We love them, but they're here. And, yeah, he's just still working on the hockey thing. It's fun. Yeah. But Mexico, you tell Mexico, hey, citizenship for 5 million people. If Mexico's hockey team could be. They would be 2 to 1. It would be 2 to 1. They'd figure out a way they'd like rollerblade and stuff. They'd have, like, stuff they got at garage sales on the ice. There's, like, pots and pans with knives that they've carved on the bottom. They'd be industrious with their uniforms. But Mexico's hockey team, it would take them about six months to get good. If you're like, hey, you all earn citizenship with. With one victory, we'd beat them like, 31 to 5, 32 to 6. And then the next thing you know, like, before or five games, it's like, jesus, only three to two last time Mexico's picked it up.

[Brady]

Imagine how nice the facility the cartel would build for him.

[John Holmberg]

Oh, it would be spectacular.

[Brett]

They'd have shivs hidden in their pads.

[John Holmberg]

There'd be punching with little razor blades in their hands. You want to throw. Chingachlo says, hey. He says, a too. No, it's essay. Yeah. It was fun, though. It was. What a game. And it's just depressing. Just depressing. I don't like it. What are you going to do? It's. We didn't do that with all our sports. Absolutely. Must do it with all our sports, because we don't have, you know, you don't have anything.

[Brady]

Tried to. Tries to do it with that beginning, like, kind of tournament deal.

[John Holmberg]

Oh, the soccer. Stupid. Yeah, but.

[Brady]

And it's. I mean, it's really big there.

[John Holmberg]

All they're trying to do that interleague. Yeah. With the Emirates tournament. And then they're trying to garner interest and keep it to where guys don't sit down. Like, the NBA's got a big problem with dudes just going, I'm not going to play, like, 25 games a year, so I'll pick and shoot. Especially early in the season. So it kind of incentivizes the players to have meaningful games in November. And it doesn't mean anything to them, like, more money. Who won it this year? Nobody knows. Last year it was the Lakers, and they celebrated like, they won a championship. And they're like, they were told to do that. Lakers were terrible. It doesn't. It doesn't mean a thing. They get a little extra dough, it just doesn't mean a thing.

[Brady]

Added spice to Vegas.

[John Holmberg]

What was it? Oh, yeah. Oh yeah. They get. Yeah, they get it. They get a trip to Vegas for a week and I don't know, we just need to put more on it. But USA on, I mean, curling gets ratings in the Olympics. You throw USA across a jersey and we're like, we'll watch that. Who are we beating? What. What country are we superior to? Because no matter what it is, you feel like you're at the end of it, that an entire nation won. We're smarter. Where, you know, we could kick your ass in a war. Especially Canada. Canada doesn't have much, you know, they're kind of that string bean, that, you know, athlete. But they get their ass kicked if they ever got into a real fight. But they beat us in something and they're like, we're better than America. They love beating America. And we have to admit it worldwide, we're the New England Patriots. Like, we may not feel it, but damn right, every. All right, see now you can't switch it like that. You can't suddenly be happy to be a patriot, you know, much. You know what? You hated the New England Patriots. Like, they just, they're, they're gross. They get all the help in the world. They've got pretty boy. They're just this rich, constantly cheating.

[Brett]

Yep, that's us.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah, that's us. And all the other nations. I can't believe these guys get away with what they get away with.

[Brett]

You know, the. Is. They didn't care.

[John Holmberg]

Exactly. You know, that's a good.

[Brett]

Didn't care.

[John Holmberg]

That's a good point. They just kept collecting trophies. Call us whatever you want.

[Brett]

A ring put on my hand or another finger for another ring.

[John Holmberg]

I'm sorry, I didn't hear you. I didn't hear you bitching cuz I was getting sized for another ring. That's a good point.

[Brett]

The bling was a little too loud.

[John Holmberg]

They didn't care. Nope, that's right. That's true.

[Brett]

Apparently Canada and us are going to be playing again in the World Championship in May.

[John Holmberg]

They do it again. There's another.

[Brett]

Matt had hit us up.

[John Holmberg]

What's the world champions. Is it going to be. I don't know, is it going to be the hockey players or the NHL guys? Yeah.

[Brett]

And then the Winter Olympics be like the dream team.

[John Holmberg]

They take another break, I guess.

[Brett]

I don't know.

[John Holmberg]

Playoffs are happening and then Winter Olympics.

[Brady]

Are next coming up.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah, next, Next Crazy. Yeah, it's just great. I just love it. More and more and more of that. That was, that was, that was absolutely. Must see t. The first time I've been. I've rushed home and I'm not missing a thing. I rode my bike and I kept my eye on the clock because I'm like, I gotta get home by 6. I gotta make sure I'm in that house at 6 o'clock and sat down, watch. That thing was great, just great. And then the other thing I can't get enough of and I didn't follow this story here in the US of A. Right here in Arizona. In fact, a murder took place a while ago. I didn't know the details of this, but I'm going to look into it. The, the, the court case was between Kimberly lacount. She's being prosecuted. She could get the death penalty for masterminding this murder. And I'm like, ooh, murder story, local, like it. It's just she convinced her secret lover, which you always have to love that phrase, her secret lover, to kill her spouse. Which resulted in a triple shooting and a double murder not only of the spouse, but of his parents, if I got it right. So lacount's lover is someone named Kipling Harris. This is straight out of like 80s soap operas. I feel sorry for soap opera writers because you can't come up with this stuff. It's truth is fiction is reality. Now it says Kipling was already convicted of the murder, so he did it. But they're trying to figure out if she was the reason why she was married. This LeCount lady was married to someone named Alex Kuhn. And you're like, oh, okay, don't Brett. That's not the fun part.

[Brett]

Oh, it's not?

[John Holmberg]

No. He had recently transitioned from a female named Alice. So Alex was a transitioned female from Alice to Alex married Kimberly Lecount. Kimberly Lecount was banging Kipling Harris. Kipling Harris kills Alex Coon. Stop it. The parents, Peggy and Bob Kuhn. God damn it. I didn't see this coming when I wanted to bring it up. This is a great story. And Peggy got killed too. Bob got hurt. So the medical examiner was on the thing yesterday saying, you know, yeah, the autopsy came back. It says Mrs. Coons death was caused by multiple gunshot wounds. Things like, yeah, Alice Cooten was shot in the head three times. Stop it. And like they're trying to see if she can go to jail for her whole life for putting her secret lover up for killing her transvestite husband. And I'm like, how in the world has. Have we not wrapped our arms around this in the state of Arizona? How is this the first time I'm kind of hearing about this? Amazing. This is going to be a six parter on the ID Network. There's no way. This isn't.

[Brett]

You need to break out the Madden chalkboard.

[John Holmberg]

Follow that along.

[Brett]

Because I'm just like transvestites doing this. This is what the.

[John Holmberg]

Back in the 80s when you wrote for soap operas, it's like. No, Dorothy, it's a whole premise of Tootsie. Yeah, Tootsie was a. I'm a transvestite. It was just a man dressed as a woman who's married to a man. But this, this was a woman dressed as a man married to a woman who had a boyfriend named Kipling. And I mean Kipling and all the names are so.

[Brady]

It sounds like she was upset at him transitioning.

[John Holmberg]

No, I think she married him for transfer. It was. Alice went into Alex. It was a woman that became a man and she married the man. You're. You're just stuck on that because you don't like transition.

[Brady]

No, it sounded like. I mean, I couldn't figure out why it was.

[John Holmberg]

She's a secret lover. Yeah, her secret lover and her were going to run off to the Bahamas or something. It's secret lover stuff. And they're like, the only thing holding us back is this husband of mine that used to be a woman. We got to kill him. And so she starts plotting and gets her secret lover all fired up saying this poon that happens on the ID network, that's constant jail, jail time. Phone calls are always like, the secret lover traps the lady who talked him into it by talking dirty to him. And then she finally says, I'm so glad we do what we did and I'm gonna stick by you the whole time. And he's like, yeah, but you know, if I shouldn't have done it, we could have. We could have done something different. But you know, it is what it is. She goes, yes, but we had to. We talked about this. And they always get them. They always get the lady who, who Frank. Who got the secret lover to kill. They always get her to talk. But this is a great story and there's a transition in it somewhere from Alice to Alex that does make it.

[Brady]

Drove her to a secret lover.

[John Holmberg]

Well, you don't see, you keep doing that. You keep acting like the, like you can't get answers. Your answers are always kind of bigoted, religious based. Can't be a trend. You can't be. You can't be a man, a woman to a man and still have a relationship. You're saying, well, that drove her away. That, who knows, maybe she was into.

[Brady]

She go to another man.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah, but it doesn't mean she didn't like him. She just found someone else. It didn't have anything to do with transitioning. It's like I transitioned. She married him after he transitioned. She married. She was like. She was with him. She liked him as Alex. That wasn't a thing that drove her away. You got like that.

[Brady]

I thought all of a sudden she, you know, was missing the D. No.

[John Holmberg]

You made that. No. He might have had a D. They might have plastered one on there. Might have unfolded one and grew one out. Might not have been a big one. It might have been one of those, you know, steroid manufactured non hormone testosterone grow the bald man in the canoe. D's. I've seen those. China D, they call it the wrestler, not the country. Although very similar size. But yeah, no, she was. She was fine with that. Like, that was her husband.

[Brett]

Who, Mrs. Kuhn?

[John Holmberg]

Yeah. Mrs. Coon. That's right. I'm gonna go with Brett on this. Mrs. Coon married Alice. All right, who was Alex? She was fine with that. But then she found Kipling, and Kipling sounds like a guy who had some money, and then she had some magic for Kipling, and she's like, I think I love Kipling more. But, you know, my husband Alex, formerly Alice, you know, I don't want to divorce him because I lose money, I lose a house. I just got to get rid of this guy. So she talked Kipling into it. He was the only thing standing in the way of their perfect love. Great. John Holmberg's morning sickness. The 98 KUPD. Holmberg's morning sickness. And it says when you have this is a good thing. Says because of how fast it all happened. One thing's not certain in the attack, though, because of how fast it all happened, where the gunshot wounds were. The medical examiner said he's not sure of something. He can't determine the order of who shot who or when person got shot. And the guy said, why is that? And he said, when you have injuries that are temporarily related, the injury patterns are going to be all bleeding. So I can't tell based off the injury who got shot first, second, or third. So we don't know when Kipling started shooting, if it was like a rampage, if he waited for people. It was like, you know, was everybody in the room at the same time was this plot that they lure others in. Oh, it's pretty awesome. It's pretty great. So the Coons fell, man.

[Brett]

Unbelievable.

[John Holmberg]

And Kipling's in jail.

[Brett]

Poor Mrs. Coon.

[John Holmberg]

Yes, right. And tomorrow she's gone.

[Brady]

Hopefully Netflix is already on it.

[John Holmberg]

They have to be. This is a three parter. If it's anything I need to know about Alice turning into Alex. I need to know about the Coons. I need to know about Mrs. LeCount and do each. Each one gets their own documentary and then bring them together and you know, somebody who transitions has like loads of videotape of themselves before and after. In this day and age. The best thing that's ever happened for me with the Internet and all this tick tock and nonsense with people posting photos and videos is that future murder documentaries, you've done all the work for the documentarian. You've got so much footage of yourself, everything. It makes the documentaries great. I always watch those things and wonder. I don't have any home videos of me that I've saved over the years. Maybe three. It seems like everybody who's been murdered has thousands of hours of themselves from age 3 and to even like from the 60s. There's like constant videos of people on road trips and running around the house. That. That applies. Like the murderers there, the dad's there, the kids. It's just constant. And now documentarian just goes, all right, let's see their social media. I can build a documentary without even starting a camera. A couple interviews, I'll be done with this thing in a heartbeat. I just need to edit their videos that they left laying all over the earth. It's great. So you know, the Coons and. Stop it. And LeCount and Kipling all have, you know, tons of evidence of themselves that we can build stories off of. Made the Gabby Petito thing great. They were blogging. There's a ton of video them doing stuff that they can tie into a story, tons of it, all the way up until the. Well, you get to know the days before the day of. Yeah, you get to know the victims. You get to see them and hear them talking. Oh, the good part about the Gabby Petito one was in her diary. They used AI to read it as her. So they. They even said so. They're like, look, we're gonna. We're gonna read the. The parts of the diary that are read are in Gabby's voice through to artificial intelligence stuff. So it was her reading what she had written, which was a little Creepy. And I can't imagine the family was all too comfortable with that.

[Brett]

The funny thing is, with something like that, you're happy that they were bloggers and you got to see all this stuff, so. These crappy reenactments.

[John Holmberg]

Exactly.

[Brett]

But if she wasn't dead and you see it on YouTube, you're like, oh, jackass, it cares about you and your van.

[John Holmberg]

It takes a kidnapping or a slobber for me to be interested in your. In your vlog.

[Brady]

And John said it yesterday, don't even call it a van.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah, no, it's. Yeah, it's a transit. It's a transit wagon. But, yeah, that. I mean, that's. I mean, look at Instagram right now and think of all the things that chicks throw up there that would bore you to tears. Unless someone lobs their head off. Now all of a sudden, these videos and these TikTok dances have some merit. I can build a story around that. But while your head's attached, your vlogs and your videos and your. Your opinions are stupid, terrible. But until, yeah, you want to get Internet famous, that's the only real way, guaranteed.

[Brett]

Get your head chopped off.

[John Holmberg]

And get your head chopped off. Well, you'll get a ton of views. And that's. I. I'm not saying it's the right way. I'm saying it's a guarantee that all your videos, that you want people, you want all that attention. Sorry, the only person not gonna see how much attention you're getting is you. Get your head lobbed off. I mean, had anyone heard of Nicole Brown Simpson before 1994?

[Brett]

No.

[John Holmberg]

Now she's a household name. You get your head lobbed off and suddenly everybody's seeing your family photo album, pictures of you. They've seen old videos of you, you know, around the house and videotapes of you at a birthday party when you were five. Things that would have bored people to tears when you were alive are now of the utmost importance. Like, people are looking for clues that. Especially in the. Like on the murder shows, when the uncle, like, turns out he's been touching the kids and stuff. And they have videos of them at birthday parties. And there's the uncle in the back. Like, look at him lurking. You'd have never noticed it while the kids heads were still attached. But once a head falls off, you start looking for clues, and we're all disgusting that way. I don't. All I have, like, I have my phone is just packed full of videos. One of my dog's heads would have to get lobbed off to have a documentary to be interested, because that's all I have.

[Brady]

They'd have that. Or the footage that they'd use or the sonic spoof commercials from years ago.

[John Holmberg]

Yes. Yeah, well, we're different. We're different because we're in media. Yeah, I'm talking about the. Like. Do you think that if you didn't have this job, that any video you have ever done with Kirby at all is interesting to anyone in the world outside of your mother? Do you think you there. People do this all the time. Here's pictures of my kids. Here's a video of my kid. It is a death sentence.

[Brady]

Yeah, you do it. You. You do it for the kid. You know, the thought is, oh, when.

[John Holmberg]

They get maybe older, then stop showing it to normal people at dinners. That's why people who don't have kids stop hanging out with people who do have kids, is because people with kids. Brett, you can back me on this. People with kids don't know how to communicate. And before you know it, somebody's showing a photo of their child. Please stop doing that. Oh, here's blah, blah, blah. Here's blah, blah, blah. At the botanical.

[Brady]

Definitely easier at the hand, but at the same time, there's a. A lot of that. That transition has changed from the kids. You know, someone let me see a picture of your dogs. Let me see a picture.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah, no, I. You know, nobody wants.

[Brady]

But I don't think they do. The. The days of where they're like, you're sitting down there, and they're like, he'll check this video.

[John Holmberg]

You don't have to. Now you have it in, and people don't. Parents don't realize how boring they've become when they're. When they look and they're like, do you want to see a bunch of videos of my kids standing there? No. Not a soul outside of you is interested in that. Nobody. Grandma and the parents. You don't ever want to see that.

[Brett]

No.

[John Holmberg]

I've never once been at a dinner where I'm like, great, somebody's whipping out photos of their children. This is.

[Brady]

My brother puts a compilation together once a year. It's at Christmas, and it's.

[Brett]

But you don't think people want to see this.

[John Holmberg]

There's Brady murder stuff. Yeah. See, now Brady's head gets lopped off. This video gets interesting right there zooming in on him. Because you know what it would turn into is Brady zooms in on an owl he sees. And Ben disturbs, by the way. The owl was fine. Brady's Getting closer back to his burrow. No, he was in his burrow. He was enjoying. There's the burrow. Whatever. He was enjoying life in the grass.

[Brett]

He was sunning himself.

[John Holmberg]

You know what? You were.

[Brady]

Yeah, I bothered him.

[John Holmberg]

You know what, Rick? You were a fat.

[Brady]

For you guys.

[John Holmberg]

Nope.

[Brett]

Thanks.

[John Holmberg]

Right? And until your head falls off, that video will remain boring. You know what that is right there in the animal kingdom. You just became the weirdo at the public pool with a heart on. Everybody's in their seats going, oh, God, he's getting close to me. Run. Get underground. But until you die.

[Brady]

That was a burrowing owl. Not. Not a brown bear.

[John Holmberg]

Not interested.

[Brady]

Saw one of those the other day.

[John Holmberg]

I'm gonna cut your head off. Not interested.

[Brett]

I have the videos ready for the documentary.

[John Holmberg]

Not interested. You walking through the park as a sad old man filming animals that don't want anything to do with you is boring until someone cuts your head off. You, sir, are guilty of. And you know what the headline would say, Radio man? Because they'd watch the video. They'd be like, oh, they wouldn't use that word. Okay. Mentally disturbed jackass. You're right. They wouldn't call you a radio man. There's no way. They'd listen to that and be like, oh, he's a. Make a wish.

[Brady]

Just retarded.

[John Holmberg]

Retarded man tries to attack owl has head chopped off. Like, oh, oh. Let's see the video of the owl now. And then you hear the mentally challenged down syndrome. Look at him in the. He's sitting in the grass as owls. Oh, he's going back to his home. I made him upset my head. Yeah. Nobody wants to see videos. I saw my uncle for the first time in a while yesterday. He's popped out. Kind of out of the blue. Popped into town. So I hung out with him for a little bit. You know what we didn't do once? Break out our phones and show each other children. His lady friend asked me if I had dogs and then wanted to see a picture because she used to have a bulldog. So I showed her bus, and then I put it right back. If you ask, I'll show you. But people don't really mean it with kids.

[Brett]

No.

[John Holmberg]

Dogs are more like. Dogs are funnier than your children. Your children. Most of the time. Here's what people think when they look at your picture. Your kids. Wow, that's an ugly kid. Most of the time. That is like, 90% of kids are ugly going the wrong direction. 90% of humanity is ugly.

[Brett]

And also, does any look in my face make you think I want to see this? What the hell is wrong with you?

[John Holmberg]

And for those of you who don't know, Brett can go dead face better than maybe anyone. I've been with Brett when somebody's killing him with a story that. And it's probably Brady, but it's a story that just is going nowhere. And Brett's eyes, I see his dead.

[Brady]

Face all the time.

[John Holmberg]

I bet you do. I bet you think that's his normal face. Yeah, Like I have seen. I have been with Brett when somebody's killing us with a story. And not only will you dead face in the middle, Brett will just go, ah, my own. Then he'll just like your story will get punched by Brett.

[Brett]

I have time for this.

[John Holmberg]

I can play pretend for a little bit and then talk about you later. Jesus Christ. That guy showed me one more picture of a goddamn ugly ass kids. Most of you have to realize that your children are hideous ugly little beasts. Don't show us pictures of your kids or they're weird looking. And we're gonna make fun of that later.

[Brett]

Not my little Kaden.

[John Holmberg]

I remember there was a lady who had like, she looked like she was from Narnia. And she goes, my daughter, blah blah. And I'm like, oh God. But I didn't do Brett's dead face. I didn't do a maron. And she breaks out her phone and her daughter is the hottest thing I've ever seen. And I'm like, Holmberg's morning sickness. The 98 KUPD. Holmberg's morning sickness. But the story there was that you didn't. That's not your DNA. You're a surrogate, right? Most people break out pictures of their kids and they've got a bad haircut or they're just gross and nobody's interested. And your kids aren't funny unless your or their heads get lobbed off. Then suddenly I want to watch all the videos of your kids. I mean, Brady's Instagram feed is a perfect example of while you're alive, your videos of you doing stuff. Boring. Boring. That poor owl just sitting there. What are you doing, jackass? I'm just in the grass. Sun and myself. I'm gonna approach him slowly and oddly. Ah, this prick. I wanted to stay out for a little bit, but I can't. Asshole. Look at that. Al just looked at you from the burrow. I hope someone lobs his head off. Then I'll be Internet famous. It's true. That's why parents all moved to Gilbert together. It's because they. They realize that no one's. Everybody's dead facing them, they're like, what happened? They go to Gilbert and everybody's wide eyed and happy. And it's like we don't know how to behave either. Here's photos of my children. Here's a bunch of pictures of Mike. My kids as good as your kid.

[Brady]

I don't know very many guys that do it to other guys. It's just you don't do it all that often, right? Well, it's mostly the women that are.

[John Holmberg]

Get them together.

[Brett]

Some guys do.

[Brady]

I would never.

[Brett]

I mean, I don't hang out pussies like that.

[John Holmberg]

But you start breaking up photos of your kids and, like, you got nothing to talk about, do you? This guy says, I'm not even interested in my own kids videos. When my wife shows me, I've been there. I was there. I've seen it myself. Why do I need to relive. This dude's got the greatest name of all time. That comes from Hoffmeister. Thank you, Hoffmeister. Yeah, if you're. If your wife. And you know who's to blame about this is the husband. When the wife, when she breaks that phone out, you say, hey, hey, hey, hey. We're in. We're in mixed company of people. Nobody wants to see our ugly ass kid. Put the phone down, buddy.

[Brady]

She was dancing.

[John Holmberg]

Nobody. Nobody wants to see that unless she gets kidnapped. Now if you broke the phone out and said, our daughter's been missing for two years, I'm gonna watch all sorts of dumb, boring videos of your dumb ass, ugly daughter. I'm not looking for her. But I'll be like, this is tragic. We don't know what to do. And still Brett would go, I'm out of videos of kids.

[Brett]

It's true.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah. It's up to the husband to tell the wife. No, no, no, no, no. You're the least interesting person in the world right now. Oh, shut up, Roger. People love looking at our kids. No, you're lost. This is why we live in Gilbert. We're not allowed to hang out with normal people anymore. We're only allowed to people. The people who. I have children. Photo evidence. Me too. Photo evidence. Nobody needs to do that.

[Brett]

I Tom Brady your phone. If she started breaking out pictures and stuff, that's it done.

[John Holmberg]

It's. Yeah.

[Brett]

You want the new iPhone 16? Here you go. Because I'm smashing this.

[John Holmberg]

Son of a. Hang on to him. Just don't show them to anybody. And if anybody wants to get Brady 20 million views. You know what to do. We have to find part of him in one part of the city and another part in another part of the city to make any of his videos good.

[Brett]

Mary, we're looking at you.

[John Holmberg]

Brady's murder has. Brady's murder can't be just a gunshot. To make his videos interesting. In order for you to get 7 to 10 million views, your story has to be like. You have to be drawn and quartered. We have to find bits and pieces of you all over the place. Because otherwise you're gonna get shot and people watch some of your videos and go, good. But you have to have an interesting murder for your videos to be interesting. Because you and the praying mantis and the bee and they mother owl. Oh, and that's not just Bash and Brady. Most you have a boring Instagram page. God forbid you show anything you've eaten. Here's me chopping up some celery. Oh, but again, there's a good chance if that chopping up celery video gets 7 million views. Turns out your head got cut off by that same knife. Oh, here's pictures of eating. Eating.

[Brett]

Oh, there. There you go. There's pictures of him eating.

[John Holmberg]

Wow.

[Brady]

Eric's family barbecue.

[John Holmberg]

Oh my God. Nobody could pot. Oh, Brady's the only one that ever ate anything, so we might as well.

[Brady]

That lasted a long time.

[John Holmberg]

Document that. Wow. A human that ate something.

[Brady]

We've got the mama over here.

[John Holmberg]

It's a bird. I'm cutting your head off.

[Brady]

You hear the golf teeth? And there are her eggs.

[Brett]

Right?

[John Holmberg]

Jesus, you're the worst videographer ever. You can't even find the damn egg.

[Brady]

Where are they?

[John Holmberg]

I bet you. I bet you dummy with his phone even closes one eye when he's filming. I don't. Those are just a pile of rocks.

[Brady]

There's two speckled eggs right there.

[John Holmberg]

I don't even see eggs. And I either. He had to find her. Camouflage. You honestly thought that was worth look anything? What about this one?

[Brady]

Funny.

[Brett]

Haha.

[Brady]

There's a design behind the video.

[John Holmberg]

What is it exactly? This we don't want. We were doing it for a while. If it's a. If it's to get a rise out of me, shouldn't I be a target to why I've never seen these videos?

[Brady]

Funny. That's why though.

[John Holmberg]

He says the reason he's doing it is so I get a rise out of it. I've never seen. I know.

[Brady]

Slappy over here. We'll pick it up the next Saturday.

[John Holmberg]

Only when we're talking about how boring you are. He's proving it. No, it isn't. You are not making boring videos for three years later for us to make fun of.

[Brady]

Three years later.

[John Holmberg]

How old is that video of him with that egg?

[Brett]

I don't know. That's at least that.

[Brady]

But that was the fun of it.

[John Holmberg]

Of what?

[Brady]

I mean, doing the video so I.

[John Holmberg]

Would make fun of it someday.

[Brady]

Funny.

[John Holmberg]

Why wouldn't you come in and go, hey, I made some videos you might be interested in.

[Brett]

5-17-22 is the sloth.

[John Holmberg]

That thing is three years old and it's designed for me.

[Brady]

Not designed for the whole. The. Yeah, the joke of it all.

[John Holmberg]

Not for you to be boring.

[Brady]

Yes. I mean the Valley.

[Brett]

Thanks.

[Brady]

A spoof of Wild America.

[John Holmberg]

I get it. But they're doing the voice of the guy. Is that what you're doing? Oh, Brady Attenborough. That's Attenborough.

[Brady]

That's Brady Attenborough.

[John Holmberg]

Oh, my God.

[Brady]

Maybe I'll say.

[John Holmberg]

That sounded just like Brady.

[Brady]

Hello, my friends.

[John Holmberg]

What a. What the point made is and it's been cemented. Look, the point has been hammered down. Nobody wants to see and. Okay, I'll give you the Internet videos of two dogs doing it. Missionary is pretty good. If you're involved in that at all. If you're voicing it, if you're saying you're no different than anyone else. Nobody's videos themselves in them are good. If you're in it, it's automatically boring. Unless.

[Brady]

Which most of the time, Right, I'm not in it.

[John Holmberg]

Now these, I'll give you that. You do a panda eating a giant carrot, which I think is AI. I don't know what that is. Is that a squash?

[Brady]

You know, those are just.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah, those. But you taking a bite of a burger, you know, Come on. If you're in it, it's a boring video. I guarantee it. And not just because of you, because nobody wants to watch.

[Brady]

The reason I'm doing. You know, that was just where you're at.

[John Holmberg]

There's some with you with a mask on.

[Brady]

That's if I could bring more people to Eric's family barbecue. That's okay. I just got my first vaccine.

[John Holmberg]

Okay, Brady. Jesus Christ. Cut his head off. This is for me.

[Brady]

Of choice. No, no, that one's not. I mean. Okay, I'm just about five minutes after I got it in the arm. Everything feels fine. I can definitely feel where I got the shot.

[John Holmberg]

Oh, Christ. Oh, my. Oh. Oh. And it's not just you. What was the PR Go through anybody's Instagram page. Every video is boring. Every single video people make is boring. Nobody wants to see that broken out at all. Oh, my God. But that's it. You lop your head off and suddenly those all have 10 million views. And some are sad and some have. It just adds meaning to meaningless things. But thanks for doing those for me. I really appreciate it. I'm glad I could pick up a couple of those. Four years later.

[Brady]

You gotta laugh and enjoy.

[John Holmberg]

I did it. That was disgusting. Yes. I didn't. I didn't get a laugh. I got a. Oh, God. Poor Brady. Poor, poor Brady.

[Brady]

The wildlife.

[John Holmberg]

No, I didn't. I thought it was boring. I thought all of it was boring.

[Brady]

Well, it's not for everyone.

[John Holmberg]

No, it isn't for. And that's my point. It's not for anyone.

[Brady]

It's not for you.

[John Holmberg]

It's not for anyone.

[Brady]

Brett, Most people.

[John Holmberg]

It is not for most people. There's a reason why you have 205 views. It's not for most people. Probably 180 of them are. Brett, look at. Brady's losing his mind. Should we take him to a doctor? I haven't seen those videos yet, but I'm glad that they're waiting for me at any given time. Yeah, they're ready. You're making my point for me. All people's videos of themselves doing stuff is boring. Unless something drastically crazy happens unexpectedly while you're doing. If you're taping an owl and walking through a park. I'm telling you right now, you're boring the world, period. No way.

[Brady]

Yes.

[John Holmberg]

And the people you're attracting to it are boring. You've got a gaggle of people you wouldn't want to hang out with. What a video that was. Hey, Alice, come over here for a second. Here's a man close to an hour up. No, I was gone. Anyway, my day's made. Nobody wants to see that. No one wants to see that. Thank you, Brad, for taking me to Flavortown for a second.

[Brett]

Here you go.

[John Holmberg]

Oh, he's got. Oh, here he is doing something else.

[Brady]

Wild America. Easter Gooslings. Or Goslings. Look at those totes adorbs. This is exciting. Riveting. Happy Easter, everybody.

[John Holmberg]

Somebody cut his head off. That's all I'm saying. Please, come on. Just make him. Give him the views he needs. He tried to in the middle of that one.

[Brady]

That is dude. Perfect.

[John Holmberg]

While he was trying to tell us it's all in jest, tongue in cheek, in the middle of it, he said, it's not for everybody. A Lot of people find him interesting. He still tried to backtrack and say no. Know, people love my videos. No one loves your video.

[Brady]

Oh, no, there are at least 99 that.

[John Holmberg]

Like, nobody loves those little hearts, right? Like, that's because the retarded kids need a little pat on the head sometimes.

[Brady]

490.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah. No, it's awful. Unless you die, let Gabby Petito be your guide. Her videos were horrible.

[Brett]

This is the content that gets you banned. You need to be careful with the explicit stuff, boss.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah, yeah.

[Brett]

Some of the comments.

[Brady]

Love the comments.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah. Yep. Love the comments.

[Brett]

Oh, this one. Suck it, John. This is a great video. Not everyone is addicted to porn like you are.

[John Holmberg]

I'm not. Yeah, but you know what I'm not doing? Yeah, exactly. You know what I'm not doing at dinner? Breaking out. Hey, this is what I just saw. Check out this little honey. She sure knows how to edge. You keep it to yourself. You keep your home videos and your stuff to yourself.

[Brady]

Usually it's like, wait until the boys see this one.

[John Holmberg]

No, keep it to yourself. Keep it to yourself. Any video with you. And not just you, Brady. Any video with you in it going, oh, here's me exploring. Unless you're finding a human head because you just became part of the documentary. Yes. Awful. This is awful.

[Brett]

This is why being visually impaired is good at times.

[John Holmberg]

Sean Rockefeller, I know who you are. So happy. If only you were deaf, too. Helen Keller had it. Me? Helen Keller's the only one that might enjoy Brady's video. Yeah, me too. Helen.

[Brady]

Boss, KUPD for these riveting videos.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah, Nathan Sutherland wouldn't even bang these videos. Let's get a wake up song, shall we? 585 9800. We'll scream it together. It's 98 KUPD. Wake up. Arizona's most powerful, powerful rock radio station.