02-27-25 - FULL SHOW - THURSDAY - Holmbergs Morning Sickness 98 KUPD

Summary

Holmberg's Morning Sickness - Arizona Episode Date: February 27, 2025 Host: John Holmberg along with Brady Bogan, Brett Vesley, and Dick Toledo

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1. Gene Hackman's Mysterious Death

Overview

Early in the show, John Holmberg brings up the unexpected death of iconic actor Gene Hackman at the age of 95. Hackman was found deceased in his Arizona home alongside his 63-year-old wife and one of their three dogs. This tragic event has sparked intense speculation among the hosts and listeners alike.

Notable Quote:

John Holmberg [04:08]: "One of them died naturally, probably, and then the other two ended it because she's only 62. Nice job, Pac Man."

2. Theories Surrounding the Cause of Death

Carbon Monoxide Poisoning Suspected The primary theory discussed revolves around carbon monoxide (CO) poisoning. Despite CO being undetectable without proper sensors, only one of Hackman's three dogs was found dead, leading to debates about the likely cause.

Notable Quote:

John Holmberg [04:50]: "It might have been a leak or poison... but, carbon monoxide kills."

Foul Play Considered Speculation arises that foul play could be involved, potentially orchestrated by Hackman's children or due to inheritance disputes. The hosts ponder the possibility that the combination of a much older husband and a significantly younger wife could have financial motives driving such an act.

Notable Quote:

John Holmberg [05:58]: "If their stepmom's around and Dad's dying, it's probably the kids if there's foul play."

Alternative Theories Other theories, including meth overdoses and accidental gas leaks, are briefly discussed but receive less attention compared to the CO hypothesis.

3. Gene Hackman's Legacy and Authenticity in Acting

Authentic Performances Without Prosthetics The conversation shifts to Hackman's enduring legacy in Hollywood, particularly his ability to deliver authentic performances without relying on prosthetics or gimmicks. His roles in films like The Birdcage and The French Connection are highlighted as exemplars of his genuine acting prowess.

Notable Quote:

John Holmberg [06:00]: "Best thing about Hackman to me was... every time he was on screen, it was him. You could study his acting."

4. Speculation on Family Involvement

Inheritance and Family Dynamics The hosts delve into the complex family dynamics that might have led to Hackman's untimely death. The significant age difference between Hackman and his wife, combined with substantial wealth, creates a narrative ripe for conflict, especially concerning inheritance.

Notable Quote:

John Holmberg [06:47]: "His kids are probably thrilled... if they wanted his fortune, they might have killed everybody."

Analogy to Fictional Scenarios John Holmberg draws parallels between real-life events and fictional tales, such as Romeo and Juliet, to illustrate the potential emotional struggles within Hackman's family.

Notable Quote:

John Holmberg [05:58]: "I want him to die. Romeo and Juliet, I want him to die."

5. Connection to Jeffrey Epstein's Allegations

Epstein's Live Accusation List A theory surfaces connecting Hackman's death to the ongoing fallout from Jeffrey Epstein's allegations. The hosts speculate whether the release of Epstein's accusers' list might have indirectly influenced or intertwined with Hackman's demise, especially considering the timing and public scrutiny.

Notable Quote:

John Holmberg [08:19]: "We're gonna lose Nicholson soon. Maybe he won't be able to handle this."

6. Additional Speculations and Listener Theories

French Connection Bakery Rumors The discussion veers into local rumors about a bakery named "French Corner," allegedly founded with heroin money from the infamous French Connection heroin trafficking case. Although largely speculative, this adds another layer to the conspiracy theories surrounding Hackman's death.

Notable Quote:

John Holmberg [60:17]: "The French Connection was about trafficking heroin. Rudy Gobert, Tony Parker, and Boris Diaw. They're all heroin addicts."

Questioning Official Reports The hosts express skepticism towards official reports stating carbon monoxide poisoning, suggesting that the presence of one surviving dog challenges this explanation.

Notable Quote:

John Holmberg [104:07]: "The other two dogs lived, which means carbon monoxide is out? They did it."

7. Transition to Other Topics

While Gene Hackman's death remains the central focus, the latter part of the show touches upon various other subjects, including:

• Diana Taurasi's Retirement: A brief discussion on the WNBA star's retirement and the media's reception.

• Sports Commentary: Insights into the Phoenix Suns, WNBA's impact, and the general sports landscape in Arizona.

• Miscellaneous Banter: The hosts engage in humorous and off-topic conversations, maintaining the show's signature style of entertainment and disruption.

8. Conclusion

The episode closes without definitive answers regarding Gene Hackman's death, emphasizing the unresolved nature of the topic. The hosts encourage listeners to stay tuned for future discussions as more information becomes available.

Notable Quote:

John Holmberg [141:44]: "Gen Hackman's dead man. We know about that."

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Summary: In this episode of Holmberg's Morning Sickness - Arizona, the hosts embark on a deep dive into the mysterious death of Gene Hackman, exploring various theories ranging from carbon monoxide poisoning to potential foul play involving his family. The conversation intertwines Hackman's illustrious acting legacy with speculative narratives about his personal life and untimely demise. While the primary focus remains on uncovering the truth behind Hackman's death, the show also touches upon other topics, embodying its mission to entertain, question, and disturb its audience.

Transcript

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[John Holmberg]

The old method of treatment for a.

[Brady Bogan]

Person in this condition was to throw him in jail.

[John Holmberg]

Good morning, everybody. Hello there. Welcome to Thursday. It's 5:45. This is the morning sickness. My name's John Holmberg. There's Brady Bogan. There's Brett Vesley. There's Big Dick Toledo. This show is intact. We're ready to go for yet another day in paradise. Enjoy yourselves. Embrace it. I'll tell you that every day. It will be a constant reminder. Embrace it. You're in paradise. There is no measles yet here in the town. None. Boy, is that fear tactic running wild. Good luck. If you've got a dot on your face right now and you're hypochondriac because it's measles and you're gonna die from it, it's coming. And all these unvaccinated people are gonna die from stuff.

[Brett Vesley]

Okay, I'm waiting for the Ktar bu.

[John Holmberg]

Oh, God. Not a bumper.

[Brett Vesley]

They go so crazy with that measles.

[John Holmberg]

2025, the outbreak and KTN News is there.

[Brady Bogan]

I'm Ladonna Hervey.

[John Holmberg]

Oh, no, she's not. That's not a bumper. It's just her. Woke up with something on my face this morning. Sharp. I think I might have the M. Anyway, it's driving everybody nuts. Now it's a talking point for everybody to lose their minds over one thing or the other. And the damn measles. I'm not getting vaccinated again, and that's what I wonder. I don't have to get another shot. Do it. If this goes wild, I don't have to read measle.

[Brett Vesley]

I'm not sure.

[Dale Hellstray]

Yeah, I think.

[John Holmberg]

I think once you measled. I don't remember if I had the measles as a kid. I know I had the mumps and the chickenpox and all that. You had the mumps Then when I was a kid.

[Brett Vesley]

Oh, no kidding.

[John Holmberg]

Mumps went around as a chicken box. Sister had it terrible. Or she was just fat. I don't remember.

[Dale Hellstray]

Oh, I thought you meant you weren't sure if you got the measles shot.

[John Holmberg]

No, I know I got the shot. I got loaded up as a kid. I was full out loaded with the stuff. I've got it all. I've. They went. They got the premium package with me. They shoot them again. I got it all. I don't. I don't remember if I actually had, like, a measles thing. I remember measles. We had measles cases in Indiana. I mean, you're getting measles, somebody's getting measles. There's too many hillbillies around not to. I mean, they were their ideas of, you know, vaccination worth. Like piss in a bucket, put your feet in it, you know, drink your. Drink your mom's spit. Like, they thought that would keep things away. Always one kid running around, jug license, measles and drinking whiskey at school. Everybody's like, that's all right.

[Dale Hellstray]

So after that, then it was pretty much eradicated. It sounds like. Yeah, they sound for a while.

[John Holmberg]

It used to be massive, But, I mean, measles pops up here and there. I just don't know what's going on with the thing in Texas, and I just know that the news loves it and they're making everybody afraid. There's like 130 cases, and they're like, oh, my God, it's in eight states. And I don't know what it means. I don't know if that means we're all gonna get measles. I don't think so. I'm pretty sure we won't. But I just love that it's a fear thing. Maybe that's what killed Gene Hackman. Maybe it was the measles that's right next door to Texas. What a story. That is. One of the greatest iconic actors of. Of the last 60 years. The guy's amazing. His story is incredible. He's 95. They found him dead in his house with his wife and his dog. They're all dead. So one of them died naturally, probably, and then the other two ended it because she's only 62. Nice job, Pac Man. No, I think they're 32 years different.

[Brett Vesley]

He's killed Buddy.

[John Holmberg]

Nice. You killed twice. You killed her when you married her 30 years ago, and she was 30 and you were 60 something, and then you killed her again because she couldn't live without your 95 year old corpse. That's amazing. My guess is the Hackman died. She just couldn't go on. So she poisoned the dog and herself. But they didn't do. The initial reports are there's like, it's not gunshots or, you know, there's no. My thoughts will be, as the forensic evidence is revealed, it's all poisoned because evidently it's a non foul play looking thing like visibly like, okay, there's no gunshots. This isn't a murder. They'd have said murder, suicide.

[Brett Vesley]

And I also heard carbon monoxide too.

[John Holmberg]

That's. Well, that's the thing I would have wondered too, is that they just turned on the. They did this to them or a leak.

[Dale Hellstray]

You can, you can also inject it.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah, I'd like to be more romantic than that. I don't want it to be a leak or an accident. He's 95. I want him to die. Romeo and Juliet, I want him to die. And I want her to look at him and go, the dog and I can't go on. And then she. That's a good wife right there. That's a, that's a woman who. Till death do us part. She just can't do it as Romeo and Juliet. I won't, I can't live another day without you. That's the beautiful and women will be. You know, that's a. They love that stuff in stories. Do they love it in real life? No. Or they do it more often. You watch those stories where a woman, or if a woman dies especially, and the man can't go on, he kills himself, they're crying like it's a beautiful thing in a movie. But in real life, no, they're just moving on. And that's the way probably most of them should healthily think. But I like Hackman's wife saying, gene's gone. They were married for like 20 something years. So he got her when she was, what was she, in her 40s? Early late 30s? Early 40s, that meant he was almost 70.

[Brett Vesley]

Nice, nice kill, kid.

[John Holmberg]

Come on, hack man, let's give it to him. Nobody will forget you as, oh, that horrible character he played in Unforgiven, that miserable Bill, that son of a. What a great evil man that just looked like everyone else. Best thing about Hackman to me was, and I like admired everything he did. Like every time he was on screen, he never wore like crazy prosthetics or outfits that made you go, oh, he's the bad guy. Everything Gene Hackman did was acting with his face and his words, it was him. He could be the great guy. He could be a dummy. He could be, you know, the French Connection, where he's kind of like a. Not necessarily mobster, but like a, you know, good guy, bad guy, not a great guy. Popeye Doyle is a crooked kind of thing, but he was. It was always Hackman. Every time you saw him, it was like, no, this just. I'll do it, and you'll know exactly who I am by my actions. If you want to study acting, that's the guy to do it. Because nary a prop in his life which made him so amazing in birdcage, when he dressed up like a woman at the end and wore it as the most uncomfortable thing you could ever see. Like when he's being paraded out of the. Out of the birdcage at the end and he's dressed as a woman and he's trying to play along. He wore it on his face. It was the greatest expressive expression on a fairly expressionless face. That this dude could do anything without having any help. I mean, some of that. Think about all the actors that have to have, oh, I wore a prosthetic nose. I lost 50 pounds. I. They have to change everything about themselves to become. His was just a eyes. Just eyes and face. He was unreal.

[Brett Vesley]

Lex Luthor and Superman.

[John Holmberg]

Superman, too.

[Brett Vesley]

Yeah.

[John Holmberg]

He was the evil guy. Nothing he didn't need. He just wore black turtleneck. It was. That's all you need. I got this. The guy was.

[Dale Hellstray]

Made it look effortless.

[John Holmberg]

It was. He was so, you know, he should have been admired a lot more than he was. And then in 2004, he does what everybody would love to do in life. I'm done.

[Dale Hellstray]

Yep.

[John Holmberg]

And you're not going to hear a word from me again. He did welcome to Moose Port with Ray Romano. He was the Lowe's voice. He did a couple of voiceover things, and when he said, I'm done, he cut all of it. No more Lowe's commercials. Like you don't even run my voice anymore. It's over. And he disappeared.

[Dale Hellstray]

Santa Fe.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah. Just disappeared out of Santa Fe. I'm hoping deep down that I'm right, that it's a hackman. Died at 95 in bed. Wife couldn't go on, you know, because she's been taking that Hackman bone since she was 40 something. She knows she ain't getting any better, even though she probably hasn't seen an erection for 20 something years. And then she kills the dog and herself. That, that, that's romance. What I don't hope for is that the Hackman and his wife had found a bunch of meth in Santa Fe because it's prevalent there. And they just went nuts. It's a drug overdose. Like, the most surprising part of it all would be, you know, fentanyl. Oh, no. And they got a little on their hands.

[Dale Hellstray]

Finished off.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah. And they dropped it and the dog ate because it's delicious fentanyl and. And then everybody's dead.

[Dale Hellstray]

But he did get into a painting and art up there in Santa Fe.

[John Holmberg]

He's an old man. He just did whatever he wanted. It was. It's an admirable life. He lived too long. 95 is way too long. There's no reason to be 95 at all.

[Brett Vesley]

Him. Him and Duvall were kind of along the same lines.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah.

[Brett Vesley]

Just those great actors and never needed the prosthetics.

[John Holmberg]

Like you're saying. No.

[Brett Vesley]

Just showed up and you knew who.

[John Holmberg]

I mean, you watched that. They were acting. They were roommates together. They lived together before they were famous. That's odd that the two. You know, the two of them. And that's a hell of a pairing there. Yeah. He's another one that. He's gonna die soon. And you look at him as the Great Santini and the Godfather and. Oh, my God. Yeah. He's Charlie Dopes. He could be. So. Yeah. Apocalypse Now. The dude was all over the map, screaming and yelling. And one as calm as, you know, as Hayden and the Godfather. He was the st. Steadying force. That's another one. He'll die soon, too. Maybe he won't be able to handle this. His old roommate and acting buddy Gene Hackman died. And maybe Duvallo. Do some fentanyl and die too. And then his wife will take her life. I think that's beautiful. In fact, I. I know our listener Als Matt, who's going through the. He would love his wife to kill herself. I'm. Not necessarily. Because he's dying just because of her taking all that superfluous pipe over at the Texas. I know Matt's laughing. Matt's laughing right now. If he still can. And he's enjoying himself.

[Brett Vesley]

I forgot Mississippi Burning, too. He was great in that too.

[John Holmberg]

Countless amount of movies. When you start going back to the Hackman stuff. And I've said that for a few years. People are saying it is. Oh, no, it's. A lot of people said first thoughts are carbon monoxide. Haynes just texted. I thought car. And that's probably true, but it seems to be sort of a you know, 95 year olds in carbon monoxide, if the dog's dead and there's no like holes in anybody, probably a leak or poison, but, you know, Hackman won't have poison in him. He'll just have been dead.

[Brett Vesley]

He was in Young Frankenstein.

[John Holmberg]

Mm. A little tiny role. I don't remember if he was at the castle or not. I think he was the one that drove Terry Garr to the castle.

[Brett Vesley]

Man, I don't remember that.

[John Holmberg]

If I remember right. Yeah, he's. He was everywhere. He was everywhere. So think about that. Ladies, look over at that husband of yours and say, do I love him like Gene Hackman's wife? Love Gene. Would I eat poison? For the simple thought of living another day without him is impossible. And the answer is no. Most of you would look over at the deadbeat who's farting on you at night and going, can't wait for him to die. They fantasize about it quite a bit, I think, what life would be like. And you try to ask them those questions you ask a woman that they got no problem with setting you up with those terrible questions.

[Listener]

I lost my legs. Would you stay?

[John Holmberg]

No. But you have to lie and act like everything you ask them the same thing. It's like. You ever fantasize about my death? Like what you do with that?

[Listener]

Oh, my God, that's just never. You're so stupid.

[John Holmberg]

Of course you do. Of course. Every day. Of course you do. That's all what you do. Constantly fantasize about what life would be like if I were to drop dead.

[Brett Vesley]

You mean today or in the last 10 minutes, right?

[John Holmberg]

Well, yeah. What's the cutoff? When the last time I. I can't.

[Listener]

Remember the last time I did it today.

[John Holmberg]

Fantasize about her death. And none of you, absolutely none of you, have the love in your heart to ice yourself the way Hackman's wife did. Now that's what I'm rooting for. If it's carbon monoxide poisoning, it's kind of a lame way for a 95 year old man to die. You like him to go out on his own sword. You don't want it to be some sort of a goof in the AC or the gas leak or say carbon monoxide. No, the Hackman deserves better than that. But it would be weird. Like, I obviously don't know if Gene was in the hallway dead, like you'd think. You'd think people would have. Maybe they were all asleep, I guess. Maybe it was the overnight. But they got found this morning early so someone was in the house, found them.

[Brett Vesley]

Yeah. Who's around there in the morning?

[John Holmberg]

Right. So who's there?

[Dale Hellstray]

Wellness check. So someone that's.

[John Holmberg]

Maybe they hadn't heard from him for a while. No, that could be. But then, yeah, maybe they just sleep in the house. Carbon monoxide got him at night. That would make sense instead, otherwise you'd have like Hackman sleeping in the living room, the lady fell in the kitchen. You'd think that carbon monoxide in the house knock everybody out at a different time and somebody would notice something. And they don't have a doggy door. The dog should have run outside once he started to see everybody dropping dead.

[Brett Vesley]

Maybe Hackman and his wife, maybe his heart gave out. We'll make it love. That's what I'm going with.

[John Holmberg]

That young little spinner.

[Brett Vesley]

Yes.

[John Holmberg]

Flopping around on that 95 year old thing that he's, whatever that snail is, he's got between his legs. Maybe took some Viagra and they banged it out. That's. That's the dream death of a man who deserves, he deserves it.

[Dale Hellstray]

And they could have been there for a while too. They're not really saying that.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah, they might have been croaked out for a few weeks because I mean, who visits a 95 year old? Nobody wants to go over to that house. And plus he's got that six year old wife, the kids. I don't know if he had kids with his first marriage. He was married to the first lady for 30 plus years. Probably had a couple of kids that hated her because they're the same age.

[Brett Vesley]

Oh man, that's right.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah. So his kids are probably in their 60s or early 70s.

[Brett Vesley]

They did, they talked about his youngest kid's 59 and one of them's in their 60s, so.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah, so they hated her. Like she rolled up and so they're celebrating. The Hackman kids are. They're thrilled. Is she dead too? Ah, it's all ours. Everything are dead. Yeah, the Hackman talentless Hackman family gets all the money. Because now I'd look into the kids. They started to realize dad's not long for the world. And they didn't want this, this young whore in her 60s to steal all of the Hackman fortune. So they killed everybody. Now there's, there's the story right there. And who would you get to play Hackman? Who's better? Should have been Hackman. I mean he'd have been great at playing that. But that's the story. I, that now that's a new one. The Kids who've been angry at this young lady that came into her father's life go in there and poison everybody and then leave them for dead, knowing that nobody's going to visit Santa Fe residence for a long time. Oh, that's good stuff. Oh, I hope that, I hope for that. That's a good. Because that makes a great movie.

[Dale Hellstray]

Ooh, you're looking, you know the net worth estimated to be 60 mil.

[John Holmberg]

60?

[Dale Hellstray]

Yeah.

[John Holmberg]

You throw your hands up like that's nothing. No, that's pretty amazing.

[Dale Hellstray]

The last thing you want, whatever the celebrity net worth and how accurate that look if you're.

[John Holmberg]

If my dad was worth $60 million and I've done all right for myself and he's 95, but 30 years ago he hooked up with some, you know, 30 year old hussy. I'd be like, good for you. But what happens when you die? Is she gonna get a lot of. And now, you know, she's. They start getting the fights with her because we're the same age. And the next thing you know, your old man's on the deathbed and you're looking at her going, you're gonna get all of this. And you showed up real late to the party. I mean, she only married to him for 25 years. He's been out of the game for 20. So he was only the only movies he did while she was in his life or Moose Port and some Lowe's, you know, vo and he wrote a couple of books.

[Dale Hellstray]

It just popped up, just went up to 80 mil.

[John Holmberg]

Well, I don't know how accurate any of those things are, but I mean, let's just say it's 40 or 50 million dollars. That's pretty amazing. And she was there for the retirement. She gravy trained. That's freeloading right there if you ask me. She was. She was a musician or something. If I remember right, she was 64.

[Brett Vesley]

His oldest kid, 65, hates her.

[John Holmberg]

There's no kid on the planet 62 and 50 that can handle when dad brings home someone younger.

[Brett Vesley]

Oh, so when his kid was a senior in high school, this his wife was a junior.

[John Holmberg]

Nice and excellent way to put it. And the other thing is they got to listen to the. Their mother, his ex wife, go, Typical.

[Listener]

Of your stupid father. He's always eyeballing those young women. He saw your midlife crisis for 45.

[John Holmberg]

So they had to kind of have a little hate sewn into them by the ex, the mom who just felt really bad about him leaving because one of the reasons they got divorced probably she was starting to show.

[Listener]

Starting to show it.

[John Holmberg]

Yes, Packman. You know, vaginal dryness. It didn't look like there was going to be an upswing there anytime soon. Not saying that that's a right thing to do. I'm saying that that's, you know.

[Brett Vesley]

But you understand very.

[John Holmberg]

Oh, yeah. Very possible. Women are. I like to play on the fears of women as they age. There's commercials that. Come on. Are you in your 50s, postmenopausal and experiencing vaginal dryness? And like, they get commercials for it. This needs to be a discussion quietly amongst each other. That's an embarrassing thing. You shouldn't let us know. Like, that happens. Oh, Jesus Christ. Started looking around.

[Dale Hellstray]

Don't you talk about that on Walking on the Beach.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah, keep that to yourselves. There's no reason for TV commercials to pop up and let us know. Last thing you want to do is put that in the back of our brains. Same way Hackman's ex wife told his kids, you know, she's just gonna.

[Listener]

She's gonna steal from you guys. That's why she's around. That's what. She's just gravy training your dad's career.

[Brett Vesley]

And, you know, that happened.

[John Holmberg]

Whore.

[Listener]

And your father, what does he. What do they have in common? What do they talk about?

[John Holmberg]

That's why you. That's why your second wife is better than your first wife is, because she's the one, you realize. Oh, talking. That's what got us in trouble the first time. Does she like to bone? Like, do fun stuff, not talk that much?

[Listener]

Is that what you're after?

[John Holmberg]

You know, again, that. That horrible phrase that older women.

[Listener]

You don't want a woman who challenges you.

[John Holmberg]

No, I don't want anybody to challenge me. I don't like that. I don't mind a spirited discussion, but challenging me, and that's what you feel like is an attractive part of you. No, it's awful.

[Dale Hellstray]

Challenge.

[John Holmberg]

If I like that, wouldn't I like that all the time? Wouldn't I like to, like, go to Fry's and have the checkout person ask me a few questions that may or may not challenge me? I hate it. I don't want. That's a lot of work. I want to be challenged by somebody. I want somebody to get along with. Yeah. The last thing I want is to say, wow, that wife of mine, she's challenging. Like, that doesn't sound like a positive. No, you want them to want to bone all the time and occasionally just.

[Listener]

Go, let's just not talk for A week.

[John Holmberg]

Oh, I'm marrying you.

[Brett Vesley]

I threaten you at a good time.

[Listener]

Just watch TV and do a whole lot of nothing.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah.

[Listener]

Then every once in a while, bone.

[John Holmberg]

Good Christ. This is amazing. So if that's what you're looking for. And that transcends age. Any woman who understands that can be. She'd be a hundred and still attractive.

[Listener]

Last thing I want to do is make your day more challenging.

[John Holmberg]

That's, See, that's, that's the goal in life for all of us, I think. Look at Hackman's wife. I, I, my fingers starting to swing over here in a Jussie Smollett moment. One of them kids killed the Hackmans. I think that might be a real thing. My aunt married a guy, 20 something, 26. Seven years younger than her and he died before her. But the kids, like the oldest son didn't. It wasn't a. It took a long time for everybody to kind of grab hold of that. But I think it was different with a woman for some reason, because your thoughts. What's wrong with the guy? You know when you see a guy and a young woman, you say, what's wrong with. What's wrong with that guy's got something wrong with him that he wants to be with a young woman. What do they have to talk about? And that's the point. It's like he's done talking. Like most of the time we're having a great time doing whatever it is we're doing. It's like this talking.

[Dale Hellstray]

Checked everything that I was looking for.

[John Holmberg]

Sure. And she had her own deal. She was like an accomplished musician. Hackman's wife. So what's her name? Harukawa or something. She's pretty too. I saw the picture of him. Anyway, Gene Hackman. Legend. Betsy Legend is. Her first name is like Harakawa. I don't remember. And the guy everybody's firing off there, remember him as the Red Ass and Chrisman. Tide. Crimson Tide. Sorry I say charisma. Crimson Tide. We've been saying that for a week. XO has the calm. And I have no idea why. I haven't seen the movie in forever. But every time I switch to give the mic to Larry. XO has the calm. Maybe I felt the presence in the force that Hackman was dead because I just started that last week. Maybe he's been dead for a few days.

[Brett Vesley]

Him and Denzel.

[John Holmberg]

Oh, what a. That's.

[Dale Hellstray]

You see that immediately.

[John Holmberg]

No, Exo has the comm.

[Dale Hellstray]

I did it two days ago.

[John Holmberg]

So you're, you've swiped it Away from me.

[Dale Hellstray]

Yeah, it's contagious the other day.

[John Holmberg]

And I'm like, it's contagious that. The Hackman in the air. XO has the comm. Everybody just goes right into the submarine. Everybody's right there. Oh, XO has to calm. I remember Crimson Tide. That's a great movie. I might have to do a Hackman.

[Dale Hellstray]

That's what the immediate response was.

[John Holmberg]

Great movie, great movie, great movie. And that's not even like a. A reasonable quote. It's just the way Hackman did it. All right? EXO has the comm. And he'd leave. And then Denzel would have to say it too. Oh, that might be one to watch this weekend. He's been in some great stuff. I never liked the French Connection, but it was because I'd seen so many car chases since Slow. Well, because what you don't know or remember, that was the first one. That was the first real supercar chase. They had car speedy things. That was a design with a fender camera, right? Oh, yeah. They had it on front of the cars. The choreography through a city. It was long.

[Brett Vesley]

No cgi, None.

[John Holmberg]

And all the crashes had to happen just right. I mean, it was a long car chase. And from there it birthed all the other car chases. I mean, Fast and furious. Probably a 10 year delay on that. A French Connection doesn't come out. And I'm not saying that's Hackman's thing, but he was in it. So you remember him in there? I never. French Connection was such a huge visual thing when it came out, but the movie itself is sort of boring.

[Dale Hellstray]

And then the actual family.

[John Holmberg]

The Popeye Doyle people.

[Dale Hellstray]

Yeah, the Connection goes here in Phoenix Central and Camelback. There was a bakery called the French Connection.

[John Holmberg]

Oh, was it related to them?

[Dale Hellstray]

I think it was the grandson or the.

[John Holmberg]

Look at him.

[Dale Hellstray]

The family.

[John Holmberg]

How'd he do that? How did he turn this into food? You're amazing. You're truly amazing.

[Listener]

I remember bakery with that name. I don't want to talk about this stupid movie anymore.

[John Holmberg]

And you think that that was tied together? Just wasn't them stealing the name. Yeah, something, something.

[Brady Bogan]

Check out Homework's morning sickness [e-mail] Holmberg's Morning Sickness.

[John Holmberg]

You know for sure. Are you making.

[Dale Hellstray]

I'm pretty sure, yeah.

[John Holmberg]

That sounds like you're reaching for your phone.

[Dale Hellstray]

No, the.

[John Holmberg]

No, you can. You can do it.

[Dale Hellstray]

The other one I was thinking was. Isn't Popeyes the chicken Popeye Doyle.

[John Holmberg]

I don't know you. That was. This is what you were thinking about the whole time when Gene Hackman died. Not one of his roles. Popeye.

[Dale Hellstray]

I'm claiming him, like, all right, yeah, he's one of ours.

[Listener]

Popeye Doyle. That started the Popeyes franchise.

[John Holmberg]

Maybe. I don't know if anybody's gonna. I'm leaving. I don't like how often you keep reaching for and putting your phone down as if your brain has to be placed into your hand real quick. Find out if you're. If you're just spewing Brady facts or real ones. The French Connection thing, maybe don't question.

[Brett Vesley]

Him on a bakery.

[John Holmberg]

No, no, no. I know. I know he knew where it was, but I also know that he could get blinded. He romanticizes bakeries a little bit.

[Listener]

This is just like the movie. They must be related.

[John Holmberg]

That's where I think. You like.

[Dale Hellstray]

Yeah, that could be.

[John Holmberg]

As you were eating that delicious croissant, you thought to yourself, these guys must.

[Listener]

Be related to the family and the movie, the French Connection. I'm gonna cement that in my brain as fact for a while someday. Hopefully, it doesn't embarrass me.

[John Holmberg]

On the radio, maybe. Right.

[Brett Vesley]

Trying to find it. I can't find anything on it.

[John Holmberg]

I don't know what the French Connection family did to make a move to Phoenix, pop open a bakery. But that didn't last long, evidently, either. You know who I am jealous of right now? Because of this conversation? Gene Hackman and his wife. This conversation went away. I didn't feel like going, here's some facts about Popeyes, because this is the way this goddamn show always ends up. We're trying to talk about something human, and it ends up with Brady's, you know, Cloudy Facts. So we got to start Popeye's Louisiana Kitchen. Started as a small restaurant in New Orleans in 1972. Al Copeland wanted to compete with Kentucky Fried Chicken. It was originally called Chicken on the Run. It struggled to attract customers. He reopened at Popeyes. Mighty Good Chicken. Changed to how he prepared the chicken for spicier options. I don't see anything about Popeye Doyle. Yep. Correct. Well, don't yep me. You brought it up and made me look. Do you hear him? Yep me on that?

[Dale Hellstray]

Yep, yep.

[Listener]

Like I was saying, has nothing to do. I just wanted to talk about chickens.

[John Holmberg]

So we got to be careful with that. Is there a place called Little Bills that we need to know about? Brady?

[Brett Vesley]

That my Lex Luthor's.

[John Holmberg]

I remember when we did Unforgiven, we.

[Listener]

Had craft services called Little Bills, and Brady was there every day, even though.

[John Holmberg]

He wasn't on the set.

[Brett Vesley]

Popeye sounds good.

[John Holmberg]

Now, remember Jay Moore told a story about. He was talking to. He was talking to Clint Eastwood. I forget what. I don't know if he's a director or a movie that Jay was doing, but Jay Moore said Clint Eastwood was talking to him about. So you. They were drinking. Everybody was drinking. And Jay said, I don't drink.

[Listener]

You haven't had any drinks.

[John Holmberg]

Was the last time you had drugs or alcohol in your system, Jay? And he goes, it's been since 98, which I question. And then Clint Eastwood said, yeah, I.

[Listener]

Never really had an issue with that. My problem was P, U, double S, Y.

[John Holmberg]

And if you look, there's a babies with just about everybody he touched.

[Brett Vesley]

But yeah, the original Nick Cannon.

[John Holmberg]

Oh, here we go, big time.

[Brett Vesley]

Laying it down.

[John Holmberg]

Look on his Wikipedia page where it says children. It says indeterminate. That's real or undetermined. I don't know. They can't.

[Dale Hellstray]

Undetermined.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah. They can't decide. You know, we're not even going to put a number on it. We're not even going to put like 11 to 15. It's like, we don't know. It can't be determined how many kids he has.

[Listener]

That's what I was telling Jay. You get the psy and you got kids flying all over.

[John Holmberg]

I just know checks leave, which is why I'm 90 and I just did another movie called the Juror Number Two. It's pretty good, but, yeah, it's so Gene Hackman goes. Clint's gonna go soon. We're gonna lose Nicholson soon. I've been saying this for a long time. The silver screen exploded in our lifetime. Guys our age, we were. We were the transitional period from the single movie screen, you know, theater to the multiplex. That was us. That happened in the 80s when we were kids and. Or Brady wasn't old, but we were kids. Freddie was at Popeyes.

[Listener]

So who owns this dump? What are the origins of the name?

[John Holmberg]

Sir, please, there's a line if you'd like to move. Just take your chicken and your beans and leave.

[Listener]

It's named after Gene Hackman.

[John Holmberg]

I don't know who that is, man. But the multiplex. So we got exposed to a lot more celebrities than any other generation. First, our parents got the first of celebrities. We got the explosion of it. And they're all going to start dying soon. Loads of them.

[Brett Vesley]

Don't say that.

[John Holmberg]

That's true. De Niro, Pesci, Nicholson, Pacino, Pacino. They're all in their 80s now. They're gonna start dropping like flies. Yeah, it's a ton of them. So Hackman is 95. First one. Really kind of. That was a. What an unbelievable story. And I'm hoping I'm right, that that Hackman's kids did this. They sat in a room, maybe at a Popeyes, Brady. Ironic. Maybe they sat at a Popeyes and said, dad's on his last legs. It doesn't look good. We need to do something about this. So that doesn't get all the dad's Popeye money. Cuz he started this franchise. According to Brady.

[Listener]

Yeah, Gene Hackman started that. You didn't know that?

[John Holmberg]

And then they come up with this devious plan and then one of them, if it was me in this thing, I'd be like, I'm all for killing everybody, but what about the dog? Like, we can't kill the dog, can we? It's like if it's an accident, afraid the dog has to be collateral damage. Otherwise it looks fishy. The dog's still alive. It means somebody helped the dog. Dog wouldn't survive it either. And then they check their computers immediately. The Hackman kids for carbon monoxide poisoning. How does it happen? I wouldn't be surprised. Pretty good story right there. Heavy speculation, but at least it makes sense. Unlike Brady's French Connection restaurant. He's still looking up on his phone. Did you find anything?

[Dale Hellstray]

Not yet. I text the guy that.

[John Holmberg]

Oh, Jesus Christ. At six in the morning. Poor bastard.

[Listener]

Nice Brady.

[Dale Hellstray]

Hoping he's up.

[John Holmberg]

Oh, for Christ's sake. So you knew the owner of the French Connection so much you had his number.

[Dale Hellstray]

I didn't know the. Oh, I knew a person that had a place in that center and I.

[John Holmberg]

Was told that the French Connection is.

[Dale Hellstray]

Related to the bakery there is owned by a family member, a relative of the person that did the actual heist.

[John Holmberg]

That was in the French Connection?

[Dale Hellstray]

Yeah.

[John Holmberg]

So it's a family member celebrating the crime committed in the French Connection by calling a bakery the French Connection, which was his family's biggest blot on society.

[Dale Hellstray]

Yeah.

[John Holmberg]

That made sense to you?

[Dale Hellstray]

I don't know about that making sense.

[John Holmberg]

Wouldn't that be similar to Justin and Sydney Simpson opening up Bundy Bakery?

[Dale Hellstray]

Pretty close.

[John Holmberg]

Just saying. The family is like, you know, we're most known for our father slaughtering those people. We should call it returning your sunglasses. It's a sunglass shot. I don't know, maybe you're right. Maybe you're right.

[Brett Vesley]

It was a restaurant tour, huh?

[John Holmberg]

Yeah. Evidently Hackman's last words were, brady, tell My tale I've told no one these stories.

[Brett Vesley]

So Crimson Tide croissants and Crimson Tide feminine hygiene.

[John Holmberg]

The Crimson Tide feminine hygiene products that Hackman was big on. Welcome to Moose Port was the original. It was a cry to Ozempic to help these people. Of course, then again, that's not food, is it? I guess I'm being fun. I'm not thinking about the restaurant anyway. The Birdcage probably be a chicken restaurant. We could get one of those going.

[Listener]

That's true. La Cajaful, that used to be a place.

[John Holmberg]

Anyway, I hope you find you've given up on research. You gotta wait for him to text back. Yeah, wouldn't that be something you could look up the French Connection Bakery. Like, wouldn't they have done stories on that?

[Dale Hellstray]

That was called the French Connection Bakery or. But it was a bakery on Central. And I'm gonna Camelback that is owned by one of the relatives that were.

[John Holmberg]

Oh, they said it was called French Connection.

[Dale Hellstray]

I'm thinking it was, but.

[John Holmberg]

But it may not be. Yeah, look, I don't even so worthy of bringing into the story was this ambiguous unknown. Your one connection back was a delicious meal. You're insane. He's insane.

[Dale Hellstray]

I won't commit to it.

[John Holmberg]

Do you know about Durant? Did you hear about Durant? Oh, man, I know of Durant, you know. Did you hear what happened to Durant? No, just yesterday. That's shocking breaking news. I figured this would have been on your feed first. The people who own Steak in Ocean 44 purchase durants. And they're going to. Exactly. They're going to keep the place the same. They're bringing the food to the level. The last time I went to Durant's, I'm like, oh, yeah, Mistakes in the. This isn't as good as the other new steakhouses in this town. It used to be the one place to go. Durant's with Steak44's food.

[Dale Hellstray]

That's good news.

[John Holmberg]

Oh, that's good news. All right. Oh, last night, you know, stake 44, as I understand it, Reggie Jackson, he's behind that.

[Dale Hellstray]

Really? Yeah.

[John Holmberg]

Number 44.

[Dale Hellstray]

No, it was Leroy Kelly.

[John Holmberg]

Was he number 44 as well? Yeah. All right. Sure. Leroy Kelly made enough money with the Browns back in the day. Yeah.

[Brett Vesley]

One good thing. He came out of Cleveland.

[John Holmberg]

The 44s got together. It was Reggie and Leroy Kelly and then Chuck Foreman. Yeah, Chuck Foreman. He had a few of the older guys. Hey, we all wore 44 steak on that. And they put it on the grill there. And the next thing you know, and they said, you know, this is a pretty good steak there, 44s. And then they said, well, let's do Club 44.

[Brett Vesley]

Hank Aaron.

[John Holmberg]

Hank Aaron was in this mix.

[Brett Vesley]

Jerry West.

[John Holmberg]

Jerry west was also part of that man conglomerate.

[Brett Vesley]

Willie McCovey.

[John Holmberg]

I forgot he was there.

[Dale Hellstray]

And Brady, we had the McCovey filet.

[John Holmberg]

In Brady's most annoying fantasy world where he just make up stuff about a restaurant when you're talking about something completely different. Floyd Little. Floyd Little was 44, man. What a group, that. They should just call it HOF 44.

[Brett Vesley]

Ernie Davis, John Wallace.

[John Holmberg]

But they didn't want to be obvious.

[Brett Vesley]

George Gervin.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah. Also, yeah, they called it the French Connection for a little while. It didn't take. Hackman was involved. Well, good luck with your story, Brady. I hope that investigative report that you're doing over six in the morning with some guy who hasn't heard from you for 25 years.

[Listener]

Hey, it's Brady. Remember the French Connection Bakery?

[John Holmberg]

No.

[Listener]

Anyway, let me explain.

[John Holmberg]

Oh, Christ.

[Brett Vesley]

6:15.

[John Holmberg]

What do you want? What do you want? Is there an emergency? Yeah.

[Listener]

Gene Hackman's dead. I need to know who owned that bakery.

[John Holmberg]

There's no logic to this. There's no string theory that brings me from here to that. He thought of a bakery. It's fun because it's weird. And nobody else has this. Let's get a wake up song, shall we? A good one. And we'll scream it together. It's 98 KUPD. Wake up.

[Dick Toledo]

It's not weird.

[Brady Bogan]

It's pretty cool, actually.

[Dale Hellstray]

No membership fee.

[John Holmberg]

I've heard enough of this. Morning sickness. The old method of treatment for a.

[Brady Bogan]

Person in this condition was to throw him in jail.

[John Holmberg]

Thanks, Katie. And the Hobbs, that's Miles to Nowhere. It's our theme song for the year and they're doing a wonderful job. Each and every day it gets better. I'm just going on about the Hackman thing and all these emails. Forgot, totally forgot about Hoosiers. Hoosiers is. I mean, the guy's been in just a epic 90s college kids DVD collection included. So much Gene Hackman, it's painful. Pretty cool. And then he met his wife. I was just reading about this. He met his wife, she was working at a gym in Hawaii. You know, the classical musician. Shortly after that, they moved in together and bought a ranch in Santa Fe. 75 miles from Santa Fe. Pretty great, man. What a story. And then. You know who I feel most sorry for in this whole deal? Because I do like my theory that the Kids killed him is Michelle Trachtenberg, who dies at 39. And everybody's like, oh, my gosh, I forgot. You know, she was even a thing. Saw a couple pictures of her recently. I would have to guess if I'm looking at those photos, that she might have had a drug problem. But she was in Euro Trip, and I just remember them trying to dress her up to be hotter than she actually was. She had a very fievel face a little bit. Oh, she had nice canes. And that was basically. They showed those off. She was. For me, she was the problem with Eurotrip because she wouldn't go, you know, doing backflips over her. She had that. She almost looked a little bit like. I don't know. I never got the face. I never understood, like, she has two mouths.

[Dale Hellstray]

She was two mouths, but the role is the sister. All of a sudden, that was like.

[John Holmberg]

Oh, you find out it's the sister. But it was still in the bathing.

[Dale Hellstray]

Suit or whatever on the beach, right?

[John Holmberg]

She was okay. Everybody blew it up, sure. But it could have been better is what I'm saying. That movie was missing the oh, my God factor to the fact that she was just kind of average pretty. She was okay, but it was mainly her face. Her body was good. It was mainly her face. And someone else reminded me, said that the Gene Hackman celebration. Where was I that said Brady talked to the French Connection restaurant guy next door first. And not for his Hackman question, though, to see if they still had the usual breakfast order, which was called the Heartbreaker, ironically, another Hackman movie. That's true. And Heartbreakers was on my flight from Sydney to Los Angeles twice. Cause they'll show five movies and they start them over. So Heartbreakers was the first one. Then they showed it again because they figured somebody would be asleep. I can't sleep on a plane. So I was like, oh, I gotta sit through another one. So it was on. And this was before they had TVs and screens in front of you, so you had to watch what they showed. I watched Heartbreakers twice. That movie's terrible. And I remember saying out loud, what the is Gene Hackman thinking doing this? He just wants to see Jennifer Love Hewitt in a bikini. But to me, Sigourney Weaver looked better in the bikini than Jennifer Love Hewitt did. And Jennifer Love Hewitt's another one. Her face is very fable. She's got two mouths. Her face is two kind of wrecks. The fact that her cans are so great because she's got that mouse face. She looks a Little weird. She looks like she's poorly drawn. It's too triangular. But, you know, what are you gonna do?

[Dale Hellstray]

She had a good run.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah. For a couple years. She just did a thing recently where she showed herself without makeup. She's never gonna get a job again. Nobody's gonna want to see her out in public. What are you thinking? That's for people like Pamela Anderson who can take makeup off and still be pretty. You don't need to do that. If you've been. If you've been putting war paint on and that's how we know you forever. Don't act like it's our fault when it comes off and we're like, you've been the one fooling us. When you take the mask off at the end of Scooby Doo, very rarely were they like, oh, that's nice. When you take a mask off, normally, it's a surprise.

[Brett Vesley]

Old man Weathers.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah, you, old man. Jennifer Love Hewitt. She takes the makeup off and says, this has been unfair to have to wear all this. Like, no, you did that.

[Brett Vesley]

Well, back in the day, it was all about our cans anyway.

[John Holmberg]

Right? Ease us in, though. Don't. Because then you look at old pictures of her, and you realize that she was all makeup. Big old smoky eyes, and she was always in makeup. You take it all off in one thing. It's taking the mask off at the end of Scooby Doo.

[Listener]

A woman can't walk around without makeup.

[John Holmberg]

Not when she's been wearing that mask the whole time. That's the only time I've seen her. If I've ever seen her without makeup or she's eased me in, then it's going to be easier. But if you're always in makeup and then suddenly you're not, it's going to be a shock to the system. It's like a guy shaving his head for the first time. It's, oh, my God. What have you done? Like, it's taken a mask off.

[Brett Vesley]

Oh, man.

[John Holmberg]

You saw it. That's Brett's first reaction. I knew the second you looked at the picture, oh, my God. Then you realize how much makeup she actually wears to look okay.

[Brett Vesley]

I. I used to have a thing for her back in the day.

[John Holmberg]

I never got the face.

[Brett Vesley]

I think it was more about the cans.

[John Holmberg]

For me, it's always the cans. Yeah, her cans were great. The face was always troubling to me.

[Brett Vesley]

This is what we're talking about.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah, there it is. That's. That's her without makeup. And then you realize, oh, you Draw your eyes on you, make your face different with contouring and stuff. And then you blame us for not liking the one that like the way you wake up with. But that's your fault. You've been present yourself this way the whole time. If I drew abs on my stomach every day and walked in here, and you guys were like, man, that guy's ripped. And then I washed him off, and you're like, holy cow, he's let himself go. It would look like I've let myself go in a minute. Same thing with makeup. Ease it off. You know, show up in a few places with just some foundation and maybe a little eyeshadow. And then the next time, without the eyeshadow. And then the next time, I was like, wow, Jennifer Love Hewitt is aging beautifully. We won't be so surprised if you take layers off. You wash it all off at once, we're gonna have the reaction. Brett, man, Jay Moore bailed on that.

[Brett Vesley]

I was like, what's wrong, bro? Now I'm like, whoa. Okay.

[John Holmberg]

He woke up to it. That's what he woke up to. Yeah. What happened to you?

[Listener]

I'm not wearing makeup. It's not fair.

[John Holmberg]

No, for me, it's not fair. You fooled me.

[Dale Hellstray]

Was it Jamie Kennedy? Who?

[John Holmberg]

Oh, Jamie Kennedy cried when he was in here with us. Yeah, because we were talking to you. They asked us not to talk about Jennifer Love Hewitt, and I kind of casually slid it in there, and then he started to talk. So I started. I said, okay, if you want to talk about it. We started talking. Next thing you know, Jamie Kennedy's crying. And then he came back a few more times, like we had bonded, and he's been great ever since, but. And he just called her love.

[Brett Vesley]

It'd be like. It'd be like that scene at the end of Mad Max where they give him the hacksaw or he's changed.

[John Holmberg]

Yep, exactly. You can't do that stuff. You cannot. It's like if you got a car at the. At the dealership, and it's got this amazing paint job, and then somebody sanded it down to primer, and you went out to your. You'd be like, what the hell just happened to my house? Oh, no. That paint isn't permanent. What? You can't do that, Jeff.

[Brett Vesley]

I didn't see that.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah, I told you. That's why Pam Anderson was smart. She laid low. She took some makeup off. She was stripping it down a little bit. Now she doesn't wear any. In fact, she was at the SAG Awards the other Night. And she's not wearing makeup, and she looks like a woman who's aged, which is surprising because she went through so much plastic surgery early. I thought she'd be one of those cat people, but she. At the sag, I'm like, you know what? That's. Actually. It's pleasant. Now. The movie is about a woman who's aging. You don't want to watch some lady complaining about it. But she's not wearing it. She's like, I've done enough of that. I'm gonna. I'm just resting on what I am. I'm like, good for you. And she looks pretty good. She eased us in. She'd have just shown up at the saga boards yesterday. That's the first time we'd seen her in a while. And she's not wearing makeup. But we all remember when she wasn't wearing makeup in that one video she did on that boat with that fella from Motley Crue. She didn't have any makeup on that day. We liked her.

[Brett Vesley]

We weren't looking at the makeup.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah, I'm not so sure Jennifer Love Hewitt ever did real well without makeup, because when I looked at that picture, she had it all off. I'm like, was she always this? And then I'm like, she's always got a crazy amount of eye makeup on that makes her. And her face is different. That's your fault. Ladies, don't get mad at us when you strip the makeup down and then act like it's something we shouldn't be surprised by. You've been wearing a mask. You took the mask off. We saw the true reveal, remember, in the original.

[Dale Hellstray]

20 years later.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah, the Michael. Yeah. Don't. Don't. 20 year gang.

[Dale Hellstray]

When was the last time you saw her?

[John Holmberg]

Right. Every time I have seen her, she's tried to look like she used to. Remember in. In the original, Michael Keaton, Batman, Joker did all this stuff, and they put the mask and they take the mask off, and it was shocking. It was horrifying because the makeup had damaged them so badly. It's what that substance movie's all about. Presenting a false image of yourself, trying to recapture your youth until eventually you just become a monster, at least visually more to yourself than anyone else. Yeah, I felt bad for Trachtenberg, even though her career is not even, like, remotely on par with anyone like Gene Hackman.

[Dale Hellstray]

She also. I saw she had a. Had to get a liver transplant.

[John Holmberg]

Was she drinking herself into a. I don't know.

[Dale Hellstray]

I.

[John Holmberg]

39. That's hard to Do.

[Dale Hellstray]

There might have been some complications with that.

[John Holmberg]

Well, liver transplant. Yeah. If she's not. There's something going on. The last picture I saw her, she looked pretty beat up, but she hasn't done anything for age. She was in Buffy the Vampire Slayer and Euro Trip and then nothing. I never got her. She was. But you die at 39 and you had a name in the. In the world, and people were like, oh, yeah, she was that girl from blah, blah, blah. And then, you know, a few hours later, they find Gene Hackman with his wife and dog. You're not getting any headlines. Remember, Michael Jackson died. The saddest part of that death was that Farrah Fawcett died earlier that day. No one remembers that. That's fair. Fawcett had an actual career and did some stuff. And Michael Jackson. Yeah.

[Listener]

Oh, yeah.

[John Holmberg]

Completely like the poster. And then to move on and do again, took all the makeup off and did the burning bed and won awards for it. Proved that she could actually act and she wasn't so bad. And then she went through years and years of horrible disease and then a pedophile dies on the same day as her and she's. Oh, yeah, Fairfax. Oh, yeah. Michael Jackson, too. You're always associated with that idiot. It's weird. Dying is not easy when you're famous because you gotta pick and choose your days to make sure that nobody dies around you. But it's Trachtenberg, Hackman, and who. Who will be the third Trackenberg, even. Who.

[Brett Vesley]

Does that count?

[John Holmberg]

Yeah, it counts. It counts. It counts. We all saw Euro Trip. It was okay. I still wish they had cast a better girl. The dudes, you know, flipping out over her. It's. It's hard for me to believe. Remember they did that movie, Troy. Yeah. And the girl that played the one that started. That launched a thousand wars. The Helen.

[Dale Hellstray]

Yeah.

[John Holmberg]

And you're like, brad Pitt was hotter than Helen. And you're like, I don't think she'd have caused a lot of wars. Like, she was okay. But I don't think this woman's gonna cause a ton. I don't remember who was. And there's. Right there. I don't think it was Robin Wright Penn. It may have been. I don't know. But the fact that we don't know and we don't remember is proof it was bad casting. Because the person that. Whose face launched a thousand wars means that men were fighting countries battled for her attention.

[Dale Hellstray]

Yep.

[John Holmberg]

It has to be the hottest girl in Hollywood. It can't just be a pretty good Looking girl. It has to be.

[Dale Hellstray]

Yeah, they over. They overcooked Achilles.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah, you can't. Yeah, I can't. Can't sit there and think that Brad Pitt was unable to get a girl equal to that. Or better that he had to actually risk his life. That seemed unreasonable. Like, that's Brad Pitt, for crying out loud.

[Brett Vesley]

What's he do better?

[John Holmberg]

Yeah, you could do better than that. Or equal. You can nail her and leave. She should be so lucky. If anything, she should be starting to war for your attention.

[Dale Hellstray]

And it was. Was it Angelina Jolie? No, that was the other one.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah, they did a couple of them.

[Dale Hellstray]

She was the mom of Orlando Bloom. And that was a total different.

[John Holmberg]

I don't remember that at all. But again, you can't do a movie about a woman who's so incredibly hot. Men fight. Because men in the theater will be like, I wouldn't fight for her. She has to be the same as like Euro Trip with Michelle Trachtenberg. It's like, what are they flipping out over her for? They're in Europe. She's a seven, maybe tops. Because of proximity. That's.

[Brett Vesley]

That's even shooting.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah, but if you're in the bar and you don't know her, she's a five. You can do better than her.

[Dale Hellstray]

Yeah, but they're focusing on the love that he was going over there.

[John Holmberg]

They were setting it all up.

[Dale Hellstray]

You don't want to outdo her.

[John Holmberg]

Right.

[Dale Hellstray]

See again, made her shine even more.

[John Holmberg]

But then people are boning that. Yeah. Because she was nice. Yeah, I don't need that. I don't need a teen sex romp where the girl's nice. I need her to be a hot. It's the whole point of the movie. There's something, something.

[Brady Bogan]

Check out homework's morning sickness podcast at 98kupd.comberg's Morning Sickness.

[John Holmberg]

The whole point of the movie was going over there for love. And the other guys can bone and get high in Amsterdam. That was it. So you brought an average girl to the party. That's dumb. And you brought a girl with you in the first place if you're not boning her sister.

[Brady Bogan]

Look.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah. You didn't even know if you're not. Oh, that's true. If you're not. Yeah, that was dumb.

[Dale Hellstray]

That make out scene.

[John Holmberg]

That plot is dumb. Hilarious. You don't bring a girl to Europe unless all of your boning or anyone way because at least you're gonna, you know, she serves a purpose. Otherwise she's gonna complain and make you late for everything. Probably end up on her period. Wreck it for everyone.

[Brett Vesley]

Well, this guy says kind of the same thing, goes Gene Hackman and the broad from Eurotru. I mean, without that, nobody'd know her.

[John Holmberg]

It's true. There are a lot of girls who were probably in their 30s who knew her. Buffy the Vampire Slayer. They'd remember from that. But it is weird when somebody 39 dies because it like breaking news on CNN and Fox. It's because of her age. Michelle Trachtenberg died 20 years from now. People probably wouldn't even mention it. Remember Eurotrip? No. That girl was in that middling career, but because she's young. It wasn't that. That was the movie with Matt Damon singing about. Was that the mom? The Scotty doesn't know. That was from Euro Trip, right? Yeah, yeah, that was at the end.

[Brett Vesley]

I seen it so many years ago and I never went back again.

[John Holmberg]

It's okay. Yeah, it wasn't that good. They tried to act so shocking with it and it was like, this is not that.

[Brett Vesley]

And that was.

[Dale Hellstray]

I mean, when it came out. And that song was hilarious.

[John Holmberg]

It's fun. It's okay.

[Dale Hellstray]

There's some funny scenes.

[John Holmberg]

But again, hotter girl. And that movie would have been a lot more memorable. You put Alicia Cuspert in that role.

[Brett Vesley]

Oh, man.

[John Holmberg]

Thank you.

[Dale Hellstray]

I could catch a good one to go back.

[John Holmberg]

The Girl Next Door Next Door is not bad. That's actually a pretty funny movie. And because she's hot enough and all the other porn girls that are in there are hot enough, it's tough being a celebrity and dying.

[Brett Vesley]

Whatever happened to her?

[John Holmberg]

She ended up not looking so great.

[Brady Bogan]

Really?

[John Holmberg]

Yeah.

[Brett Vesley]

Oh, what a crime.

[John Holmberg]

But man, oh, man, from 2000 to 2008 or so, 24, Alicia Cuthbert was crushing it. Maybe I undershot the age a little bit on 2002, but whenever she started to show up in 24, I guess that was 2003 and 4 or 5. And then that movie with the girl Next door, outrageously good. Then she's disappeared because she was in old school. But if she was in Euro Trip, you'd have been like, okay, I can see why that guy's making out with his sister. It's okay. That sort of makes sense that you could get fooled into that. But they're twins. Yeah. Anyway. And also, remember we talked about. Speaking of dead, we talked about the. The people that flew from Melbourne to, like, Italy, but they had to stop in Cutter and some lady died on the plane and they propped her up next to him. Yeah. There was a thing yesterday that they were. They. They said dead people are. I've had that experience, and I learned something about this. Dead people are fairly common on. On flights. It's not like all the time, but it's common enough to where they. Like, they have protocol and they know what to do. I didn't know this. If they actually die on the plane, when the plane lands, it's considered a crime scene. No one can move.

[Brady Bogan]

Oh.

[John Holmberg]

So. Yeah. So. Yeah, you better. So my lady must have been just breathing or showing enough vitals. I remember they hauled her out first when the lady. And then I found out later she died. The one that died on me. So that we all got to leave. We all got to. We had to wait for them to gurney her out, but it didn't. Nobody investigated anything. Everybody just got off the plane.

[Dale Hellstray]

Maybe that's how they get around it, that they don't shut it down. Crime scene. I think she's still alive.

[John Holmberg]

Showing signs of life.

[Dale Hellstray]

Moved.

[John Holmberg]

She needs immediate attention. Yeah, some dudes ran on and they got her off. But they said that the. The constant on this is. And especially international flights to Rome is a big one. There's a lot of places where people want to go home to their ancestry, but Rome is a big one. Probably because the Vatican. Yeah. Where old people's last wishes. Terminally ill patients talk to the airline and say that the family has to do it. And the airline gives them a special. I didn't know this. Gives them a special agreement that says, look, if. If complications arise with their health. We are not diverting this flight. Everyone's aware of what's happening here. You're terminally ill. You probably shouldn't be flying. We're going to put you on this plane because it's your dying wish. And almost all the airlines agree that dying wish flights are okay, but if the dying wish guy dies, they're not reviving them. They're not doing anything special, and they're not turning the plane around. They're just going to bag them up and put them in a seat. How about that?

[Dale Hellstray]

My mom's going to have to sign one of those.

[John Holmberg]

Where's she going? Europe. Right. Well, she's healthy, though. She's not terminally ill. She's not terminally ill? No, she's not terminally ill. Yeah, she.

[Dale Hellstray]

Just went into the ER the other night.

[John Holmberg]

Oh, well, maybe she will be by tomorrow. What'd she go into ER for? Heart, for crying out loud. That's twice in the last month she's been going in her hip. She's supposed to get. I thought she had a heart thing. About a month ago, it started pumping pretty hard and thought it was a heart attack, but it wasn't.

[Dale Hellstray]

No, but the same the symptoms, you know?

[John Holmberg]

Yeah, I guess I thought she already.

[Dale Hellstray]

Anyway, she's supposed to get a little. Another stint in there.

[John Holmberg]

I think they're shoving something in her heart again.

[Dale Hellstray]

Yeah.

[John Holmberg]

Oh, geez. All right. And she's going to Europe in a couple of weeks.

[Dale Hellstray]

Yeah.

[John Holmberg]

Nah, that's just old lady Hart, though.

[Dale Hellstray]

That's what I got me thinking, like, because she is hell, you know, hell bent on going, I want to make this trip.

[John Holmberg]

Are doctors telling her not to go? Is it Euro trip? Is she going with a brother? Is this all happening again with her twin brother? Elderly. Euro trip. Is she going on there for one last run at D? What's she going to Europe for? Who's she going?

[Dale Hellstray]

My sister.

[John Holmberg]

Oh, okay. And she's not dragging.

[Dale Hellstray]

Grandson is over there.

[John Holmberg]

She isn't hanging out with some guy that's been at the country club for years who recently lost his wife.

[Brett Vesley]

How you doing?

[Dale Hellstray]

No, I'd rather have that happen.

[John Holmberg]

Would she tell you? I don't think she would tell you.

[Dale Hellstray]

Yes, she would.

[John Holmberg]

I don't think she would tell you. Maybe your brother and sister. I don't think she would tell you.

[Dale Hellstray]

She wouldn't tell me if it was a bum, especially.

[John Holmberg]

It was like that Bob Ray that used to get naked in the window next door and she's like falling for him. I know he's probably dead, but that.

[Dale Hellstray]

Would be weird because there's, you know, a chance that all of a sudden, if she did meet somebody, it's like, oh, my gosh, this guy was friends with forever for years.

[John Holmberg]

Right. That was why. I don't think she's gonna tell you all that. D.C. she's gargling.

[Listener]

Just sounds so pretty.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah, you don't need that. You don't need that. But yeah, if she flies to Europe, I don't know if she has to sit down, but she probably. I think they have those things where it's a terminally ill person. They have to tell the people.

[Dale Hellstray]

Okay.

[John Holmberg]

They need some special attention here. Getting on this plane, also pre boarding. And your mom will have that. But it's like the pre boarding, there's health issues you have to have. You know, they'll tell them it's a. It's a dying man's last wish flight. They'll stuff them on a plane. But if they die, it's like it didn't Happen. And they say that that happens a lot. And Rome was the big one. So it's probably people rolling over there.

[Dale Hellstray]

About how many flights there are 48,000 a day. Didn't they, did you have the number one time?

[John Holmberg]

That's 40, 44,000 flights today? I think 4400 domestic flights are in the air at once.

[Dale Hellstray]

I'm talking about the amount of people that die on flight.

[John Holmberg]

Oh, I don't know that. Yeah, it's not a ton by number because there's so many people in the air, but it isn't uncommon enough to where it shocks anybody on the plane. They actually train for it and they have a protocol to say this will happen every once in a while. You're going to see this, you know, when you stuff 200 people in a tube, you know, 66 times a day, you know, per airline. You're from one airport and you're like, good chance somebody's gonna just drop out. Heart attack. You've seen some of these pigs, for God's sakes. They make some people, instead of just saying you're too fat, they give them extra seat belt. Yeah, that dude's on his last legs to begin with. If you've got extra seatbelt, you're not gonna make it much further. They have to worry about you.

[Brett Vesley]

So it says 244 onboard fatalities in.

[John Holmberg]

2024 here in states or just general?

[Brett Vesley]

In general.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah.

[Brett Vesley]

Compared to 72 and 2023.

[John Holmberg]

It's not a ton when you look at it like how many people fly, but it's enough.

[Dale Hellstray]

Wow, that went up.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah, it's enough. Yeah, you're gonna have basically Good.

[Dale Hellstray]

Yes.

[Brett Vesley]

The five year average is 144. So give or take.

[John Holmberg]

Decent amount of people dying to where the airlines are said not too often.

[Dale Hellstray]

Based upon the number of flights, tons.

[John Holmberg]

It's the same as plane crashes. I mean it's more than plane crashes. It's 144. I mean maybe this year we'll pass that. But you know, for the most part it's, you know, you get seven, eight plane crashes a year that are of some sort of. Lately we've had no big ones till this year, so it's been pretty good. So people dying, they've got, they've got a plan for it. And they did it to that lady who was flying from Australia to Italy. Just bagged her up, put her in the seat next to that guy and he had to fly with her for about eight hours. Well, so, yeah, I was looking at that. And they're basically, airlines across the board have the same rule that they tell the family, okay, we'll do this, but we're not turning around if it happens. This guy says, john, deep down, aren't we all terminally ill? They haven't cured aging. The only thing different is older sick people should just be called short timers. It's true. We're all terminally ill. Nobody's getting out alive. AI might change that. We might all get plugged into something and it will just be these weird shells that the computers work that I think would be really cool. That's a great idea for when AIs like, we need mortal coils and they just plug into our bodies and work us. And they didn't. They have that already with that thing that was working, that animal that was dead?

[Dale Hellstray]

Well, they have the. Yeah, the one. It's an insect that lays there and it takes over the spider.

[John Holmberg]

Wasn't that a virus, though? That wasn't a computer. The virus takes over. It's not computers.

[Dale Hellstray]

Well, there's. Sometimes they'll lay there.

[John Holmberg]

That's what I'm saying. It's not a computer, though.

[Dale Hellstray]

No, it's not.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah, it's like some sort of a thing that attacks them and then they die. And the stuff inside takes zombies. They zombify the. That's what they'll do. AI might zombies to where we're alive forever. I'd be cool with that as long as everybody's dealing with it either way. Interesting all the way around. Brady just found out, however, though, that the. We still have no information on the French Connection.

[Dale Hellstray]

The bakery was called the French Corner.

[John Holmberg]

That's right.

[Dale Hellstray]

It was a bakery, restaurant corner. It was owned by a guy named Jean Laurent.

[John Holmberg]

Very French.

[Dale Hellstray]

And the rumor has it he is connected because the French Connection was about trafficking heroin.

[John Holmberg]

It's a heist, right?

[Brett Vesley]

Huge.

[Dale Hellstray]

You know, going from Europe to United States.

[John Holmberg]

That's right.

[Dale Hellstray]

Well, he came from the family that they. I mean, the. The people involved went to jail, but that doesn't mean they had all their money. So there's drug money still.

[John Holmberg]

So you're saying that now you're saying that the bakery was started on drug money?

[Dale Hellstray]

Yes.

[John Holmberg]

You're making that up again. He's added to it, Brett. He wasn't even sure a second ago if this guy owned it. Now he's saying that was purchased and run with dirty money. French Connection.

[Dale Hellstray]

That's what they're saying. They're figuring, well, he's related to that. How does this guy start?

[Brett Vesley]

This restaurant was still around.

[John Holmberg]

You got that in the text that you got from the owner of the place.

[Dale Hellstray]

I remember. No, I remember the background story of how the. How he was connected the family.

[John Holmberg]

Okay.

[Dale Hellstray]

And that. That Even that relative. Whenever. Who went to jail.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah. But they didn't get all the money. And then the one. This dude that you're talking about. East St. Laurent.

[Dale Hellstray]

Yeah.

[John Holmberg]

Moved to Phoenix and started the French Bakery.

[Dale Hellstray]

French Corner.

[John Holmberg]

The French Corner. With heroin money from the French Connection movie. Brady, you are a magical. You weave the worst stories ever. But when you break them down.

[Brett Vesley]

Why are you not in Hollywood writing instead of sitting here with us?

[John Holmberg]

Because the guy across the table.

[Dale Hellstray]

Go take a while.

[John Holmberg]

That's. That's the most nonsense I've ever heard in my life. Get out of my office.

[Listener]

No, it's real.

[John Holmberg]

What are we gonna do with this?

[Dale Hellstray]

It'd be Chinese democracy.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah. It would take a long time to break out. All the notes would be like. None of this makes any sense. Are we really making a movie about a bakery?

[Dale Hellstray]

Yeah.

[Listener]

With dirty money.

[John Holmberg]

Why? So he started, and it failed.

[Dale Hellstray]

Well, it actually closed.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah. So it's not.

[Dale Hellstray]

It had a good run.

[John Holmberg]

It doesn't mean it's succeeded. It failed. Larry Bittner had a good run. He was in professional baseball for 12 years. But essentially, Durant's had a good run. Durant's had a good 75.

[Brett Vesley]

It was running.

[John Holmberg]

That's a hell of a run.

[Brett Vesley]

Yeah.

[John Holmberg]

And then sold for a good portion. That's a good run. French Connection Bakery closed. Nobody was going. So the dirty money laundered through the French. They didn't do a very good job laundering their money because those places stay open forever. Much like the place on 16th street in Bethany called Tapes to DVDs. Now, that I would believe in a heartbeat is French Connection. Dirty heroin money. How in the world is a store called Wilt and it's called. That will turn your tapes into DVDs? Two things I don't need. And it's right next to the Swizzle Inn and the barber shop, and it's thriving. And I'm like, this is so clearly a front.

[Brett Vesley]

Well, it was like that restaurant that was over there on Elmo School and Baseline for about a million years. And you'd never see a single car in the parking lot.

[John Holmberg]

Which one was it?

[Brett Vesley]

Was it. It was a. I think it was a sushi joint at the end or something. It was the original Bill Austin's Barbecue.

[Brady Bogan]

Oh, yeah.

[Brett Vesley]

And then it turned into something else, and you never saw a car there.

[John Holmberg]

But it Was always open. Yeah. Yeah.

[Brett Vesley]

For like 20 years.

[Dale Hellstray]

Bill Austin's Big Apple turned into.

[John Holmberg]

That's Bill Johnson.

[Dale Hellstray]

Johnson.

[John Holmberg]

Surprised you messed that up. Bill Austin's was a barbecue place that was the ultimate dagger to us Tony Romas employees and said, hey, party of four. It's gonna be about an hour and a half. Hour and a half. We'll just go to Bill Austin's then. Fine. And without saying it, I just looked at them with my eyes that said, fine, then off. Go ahead. Go to Bill Austin's. I don't own this place. What do I care?

[Listener]

We'll be at Bill Austin's.

[John Holmberg]

Right. Because there's no wait there. The food's not as good, you idiot. Get out. But then it turned into that.

[Brett Vesley]

Barbecue place. Yeah. And nary a soul, never. Never a car in the park.

[John Holmberg]

Nobody went to Alma school in baseline for sushi ever. And that place was open for 10 years and at least. Oh, I make a ton of money. A lot of money. Used to be beer. Austin's, they still probably serve barbecue. And nobody ever went in.

[Brett Vesley]

Yeah, whatever was left in the freezer.

[John Holmberg]

From when they bought the place, says Brady. I'm a lawyer. Enjoy both your defamation lawsuits about the bakery. First you acc of being part of a criminal syndicate and then starting a French bakery with the money, and now heroin's involved. Yeah. You're getting sued for defamation. Can you mention the guy's name? You mentioned the guy's name. Why is he not a good lawyer? I'd sue you for defamation if that was me.

[Dale Hellstray]

That. It's like you're not guilty, huh? Because, like I'm saying, the Gotti. The Gotti families had a. So even though their dad did the crime.

[John Holmberg]

Right. If they used his dirty money.

[Dale Hellstray]

Well, that's the thing that. How can you prove that?

[John Holmberg]

RICO cases. That's how you prove that. If you got all the heroin money and he started a thing with it, like you said. See, that's my point, though, of your crazy story. Why would you know that and the feds don't? If you think it's from dirty heroin money and are willing to say so. You think that the feds would be following the French Connection gang around going, where's that money?

[Dale Hellstray]

They closed that case years ago.

[John Holmberg]

Evidently not. Because you think that they had some leftover to start a bakery. That's the rumor. Started with that dirty heroin money. You'd think that maybe if you knew the feds knew something.

[Dale Hellstray]

Yeah, but I never really. I mean, I was told that story.

[John Holmberg]

Right. And then you're telling it now. So if you're telling it now and it makes it sense to you that heroin money is what started the French Laundry or whatever you're going at. The feds were like, no, we pretty much cleaned that up. He was clean. He's a clean member of the family. But if the heroin money's still getting tossed around and this kid's like, I'm gonna start myself a bakery in Phoenix. Like, keep an eye on him. Something going on there. So you might get sued. What was his name again? Jacques Laurent. Jean Laurent. Jean Laurent. Sorry. Jean Laurent. I am. The opinions of Brady are not even opinions. They're just fever dreams that he spews out of his face and then uses names. Jean Laurent, you heroin junkie, bakery owner. We have nothing to do with this.

[Brett Vesley]

That's all Brady.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah, your French Connection. Somehow or another Gene Hackman dying made Brady think of. Oh, it's insane. You try to follow what's going on in here when we're off the air, for crying out loud. It's a rickety staircase to the top, and we have to help sometimes.

[Brett Vesley]

It's still the same. I bought new headphones the other day because they were cutting in and out. And I'm like, well, no, it's still the same.

[John Holmberg]

Somehow or another, the death of Gene Hackman brought us Jean Laurent, a crippled, crooked heroin junkie who started a bakery with French Connection money.

[Listener]

I'm gonna miss you, Hackman.

[John Holmberg]

Meanwhile, tell me about Greasy Tony's, Brady. What do you know about that place? Anything he'll text. Yeah, yeah, Brett. Brett can probably tell us more. And also pretty much confirmed that Popeyes was not named after Popeye. Yeah, that was another fever dream thing. Just doing a little housekeeping here, cleaning up some of the things. Facts and figures, errors and omission. But I do like it. It makes it more fun because you're the only one that remembers the French Connection bake rule. You and John Laurent. He's probably in a jail cell right now going, stupid. Becker ruined my life. I should have stuck with heroin. Got a little bit of that heroin money there, Brett. No kidding. The feds didn't get that. They don't know a thing about it. Just me, my wife, and a little.

[Dale Hellstray]

Guy out in town. Everyone is Phoenix.

[John Holmberg]

He'll know about it. I'm gonna not keep it that quiet. Then I'm gonna start making croissants for folks. And was the French Connection that French to where guys named Jacques Laurent in Phoenix knew how to make croissants? Rule that seems stereotypically French.

[Dale Hellstray]

The French corner.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah. No, I'm talking about the movie so tied to France that the people that you're accusing of being part of it.

[Dale Hellstray]

But there's five, I think at least five people that were part of the right trafficking system.

[John Holmberg]

But they were super French.

[Dale Hellstray]

Yeah.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah. That's what you're saying. Yeah.

[Dale Hellstray]

And then one, I think there's.

[John Holmberg]

He sounds French.

[Dale Hellstray]

I again, I. I couldn't recall the movie, what that was.

[John Holmberg]

Right. This is why.

[Dale Hellstray]

Money heist.

[John Holmberg]

This is fun. Because trafficking, you build it. And that's what. That's why I asked so many questions. Because it makes more sense to say that. But that's what I'm saying.

[Dale Hellstray]

He was so frank that that story is out there. It's just wild that it falls back to that movie. That's all I was.

[John Holmberg]

Well, that story's only out there in one community of restaurant people.

[Dale Hellstray]

No, I heard this way before me.

[John Holmberg]

When I first out here. You would only hear that you're part of that. That's what I'm saying. You.

[Brady Bogan]

You.

[Dale Hellstray]

I was part of the.

[John Holmberg]

The people who talk about restaurant stuff. That stuff. It's not a story that permeated through regular society. It's you. The same reason you used to get faxes from Texas Grill when they had specials. You're in that community. None of us are. We're not. We're not privy to those things that's on your feed only. And that's why it's fascinating, because it's somewhat incomplete and quite interesting. I'm just asking the questions. He was so French that he was part of the French Connection heroin sting. But he got some of that money. And then he came out here and got super French and probably wore the black and white shirt and the beret and had a baguette in his hand at all times. I think you're a dirty heroin addict, aren't you, Jean Laurent. But he still wanted to make us croissants.

[Brett Vesley]

His cousin Pierre was in the family business with him.

[John Holmberg]

He had a skunk in the back that left cats. You got real stereotypical.

[Dale Hellstray]

He wasn't the baker either. He just started the bakery.

[John Holmberg]

Could be. I like this. I like all these scenarios, but they're all crazy. And they're all built off the fact that Gene Hackman's dead. Which is the fascinating thing to me is the way you build blocks back to a restaurant. I am amazed by it. I salute it. It. We don't have much time left on him. Let's get him a flight to Rome real quick. They have a. They have a plan. Brett, what do you got on the big board of musical treats?

[Brett Vesley]

Wake Up Song brought to you by, of course, our friends at Action Ride Shop. And we keep telling you, but you got to check out store number two, the brand new one over there, Power Road in McDowell. If you're into bikes, this is heaven for you. It doesn't matter if you're into road bikes, mountain bikes, whatever. It's right there by the Hawes Trail. Action Ride Shop. And, you know, if you're into the snow stuff, well, then you got to hit the OG store right there on Gilbert Road. And Southern still got the bikes. But all your snow. Snow gear is over there. ActionRideshop.com is where you can get all of your details. And on the list, Hate Breed, Metallica, that new one from Disturbed. Foo Fighters, Creeds with Arms Wide Open for Gene Hackman.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah.

[Brett Vesley]

Sinatra. My Way for Hackman. Dead. Kill. All Beautiful Things. Iron Maiden. Wasted years for Michelle. Because nobody's gonna remember.

[John Holmberg]

Isn't Creed's Arms Wide Open about the birth of a child?

[Brett Vesley]

I don't know. So that's. Somebody requested. I didn't. Puddle of Mud Stoned because he's gonna probably be the next one on the death pool. Yeah, West Scanlan.

[John Holmberg]

He's been on there for a long time.

[Brett Vesley]

Yeah. Soundgarden, Pumpkins Ministry, Slayer.

[John Holmberg]

All right. Wow. Geez, this is tough. Wasted years as Ty. You kind of want to give Michelle Trachtenberg her do. Gene Hackman's gonna get all the attention.

[Brett Vesley]

Wasted years.

[John Holmberg]

But I don't want to hear wasted years. I love birth ritual so much. It's painful, but it doesn't make sense. Why has Jesus built my hot rod on there? For Hackman.

[Brett Vesley]

Just because he's going to meet Jesus.

[John Holmberg]

Oh, he's going to meet the Lord Jesus. All right. Well, odds are one of the two of them is going to hell. So we could do a little south of Heaven or. Jesus built my hot rod, and we'll keep it positive. Jesus built my hot rod.

[Brett Vesley]

Oh, okay.

[John Holmberg]

One of the two will meet the Lord Jesus. I don't know which one, Michelle or Gene. I'll say it's Gene just because I liked him more. And by the way, Brady, the French Connection is Rudy Gobert, Tony Parker, and Boris Diao. That's the NBA French Connection. Boy, is that true. Started to ruin basketball a few years ago with all those Frenchmen. Turns out that they all had heroin money. They're all heroin addicts. All of them.

[Dale Hellstray]

Every single French Got into the NBA.

[John Holmberg]

That's how they do it. I hope to God you get a cease and desist from Jean Laurent. That would be the best.

[Listener]

I didn't say anything other than you were part of a massive drug ring in the 70s and took some of the.

[Dale Hellstray]

Rumor has it started a bakery.

[John Holmberg]

Rumor has it with you and a couple other guys, you're the only one who remembers the bakery. Who told you this rumor? Do you remember?

[Dale Hellstray]

Years ago. I do not.

[John Holmberg]

You don't? This is the too full of early promise.

[Dale Hellstray]

Mid-90s.

[Dick Toledo]

Oh, also throwing out rumor has it as your disclaimer is not legal.

[John Holmberg]

That makes it work. That doesn't.

[Dale Hellstray]

That's just.

[Listener]

They have no facts. But John Laurent is a drug addict who started a heroin based French bakery. That's all I'm saying. Based on rumors.

[John Holmberg]

You're gonna sit on the stand while you're trying trying to avoid getting all your money taken by this Frenchman?

[Listener]

Look, somebody else told me that story. I don't remember who. I won't reveal my source.

[Brett Vesley]

Sources tell me. Yeah, yeah.

[John Holmberg]

You're Gambadoro.

[Listener]

My little tiny notebook.

[John Holmberg]

My sources tell me it's Jesus book.

[Dale Hellstray]

I'll just say I don't think the story is true.

[John Holmberg]

Oh, well, that's. Oh, well, that fixed it.

[Listener]

John Laurent is not, according to me, a heroin junkie.

[Dale Hellstray]

But I never bought into who started.

[Listener]

A bakery on dirty heroin money that the movie the French Connection was based on. Shond Laurent did not do that. I don't think it happened. But there is a rumor out there. Just let me be clear that everything I've spewed out today is against my will.

[John Holmberg]

Wow. Another guy said, hey, give him a break. Sad Pop Pop wants to believe that the only way a restaurant can actually survive is on dirty heroin money. He didn't. He didn't go that route. And that's why his collapsed. That's right. But it didn't survive either. You needed some dirty heroin. The French Connection is gone. Or whatever it was called. French Lawn. What was it? French Corner.

[Dale Hellstray]

French Corner.

[Listener]

Fromage.

[John Holmberg]

It's ministry. We'll miss you, Gene. At least I will. Brady won't. He's going to be thinking about food. It's 98 KUPD.

[Dick Toledo]

Hey, it's not weird.

[Brady Bogan]

It's pretty cool, actually.

[John Holmberg]

No membership fee. I have heard enough of this Morning sickness.

[Brady Bogan]

The old method of treatment for a person in this condition was to throw him in jail.

[John Holmberg]

All those morons. Damn it, Brett. I can see his silly little face telling me how great that was going to Be. It's time. Not Brady. We're not talking about Brady. He was. When I said silly little face, I knew people would assume I was being mean. I was not. It is time now for Brady. By the way, interesting theory and I love theorizing on this stuff. And there's nothing wrong with that. I do think. Here's more information about the Gene Hackman death. One dog of his, three dogs found dead. So does that mean carbon monoxide is out? Two of them made it. They found them. They think they've been dead for about 24 hours, maybe a little longer, but not much. The wife, Hackman, one dog of their, three dead. They had the fire department out. Gas company came out to check for toxicity and all that stuff in the house. So far, nobody seems to be too worried about that. And also somebody just brought up, I still think maybe the kids might be involved. You know, my dad was, Was with a lady. She wasn't much younger than him, but younger. And he would constantly, even though I don't believe she actually was going down this road, he would constantly remind her in front of me that she was not getting anything. It was a. Was a strange. Every once in a while kind of like, you know, it's. It's not. It's all yours. You know that, right? I'm like, what me? What are we talking about? She's not get. Her and her kids don't get anything if I go. Okay, well, this is a discussion you two need to have. Okay, that's. I'm fine. But he did that every once in a while. And then we had a talk in the car where he told me was, I gotta. I think I want out of this thing. And I think she thinks she's entitled to some of it. And I'm like, all right, well, I'm gonna tell her. She's not. I'm like, all right, well, don't yell at me. Maybe Hackman and the, and the, the girl, the 30 year younger lady, the kids got involved in that. I like that theory. The other one, the Epstein thing, is being released today live on tv because Pam Bondi, the attorney general, basically said the list is going to make you sick. Makes it till this afternoon exactly 250 accusers. And the accusations have details. And I don't know if they're going to bleed all that up. It's alive. I just saw it on the thing now. It said live today, maybe tomorrow.

[Dale Hellstray]

They're going to accusers of naming people.

[John Holmberg]

No, the allegations are on there. And then the flight list comes out doesn't mean that you did it. But here's the stuff they're saying happened at Epstein island through the 250 complaints filed or whatever. The thing that she has is. And here's the list of people that were part of Epstein Island. And my thoughts are this lady's not going to be so gung ho about it having seen it if Donald Trump's on it. So they're happy to do this. Something about like she's not going to go out there and throw her boss under the bus. But if she can get, you know, some people that they're not the Clintons. I mean this vengeance tour, this revenge tour starts today. If that thing's on there, there's a few people that they're pretty happy to see. That list that's where like this just has to be in the people's hands. Live, it said coming soon. Live. Like I'm going to watch a soccer match or something. Liverpool at Tottenham today 2pm Greenwich mean. But they're doing it. They're gonna, you know, we'll do it live. So that could be a reason Hackman and his wife ended it all. Good theory. Not saying good theory though. Why would a 6 year old lady and a 95 year old guy die at the same exact time if not one of them has killed themselves? If two dogs live. Ah, this is all getting good. It's all getting good. It could just end up being boring. Gas leap.

[Brett Vesley]

Are they gonna block out carbon monoxide?

[John Holmberg]

Some redacted. But she said that she's got information. She told. I think it was Jesse Waters was what I was reading. She was on the Jesse Waters show and she goes it will make you sick. It's a good sell. I don't know what, I don't know what you're gonna read, but that's a good sell. I don't know if they're gonna bleed those details out live today at 2 and I don't know what time it's happening but I just saw the word live. Live stream soon. I'm like man on all platforms. I don't know. Yeah, Hulu maybe Hulu Plus. You have to, you have to pay the plus to get.

[Brett Vesley]

Oh man, I hope I paid for that.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah, I didn't get plus. I did get plus because sures commercial free anyway. What are you gonna do? Good theory though. I forgot who told me that. Was it Churchill? Some guy? Not the Churchill, but I had a fever dream that Churchill told me. Gotta be careful. One of our listeners named that. I think he's the one who came up with that. The Epstein list and Hackman. Interesting. Let's hope. Let's hope it's salacious and filthy because he lived a good life. Let's hope his death gets crazy weird. It's good. Something to talk about. It's time for Brady to give you the rest of the news. It's called the Brady Report. And then we say Brady reported.

[Dale Hellstray]

Good Thursday morning to you, Phoenix. Hello world.

[John Holmberg]

Hi.

[Dale Hellstray]

Happy National Chili Day. It's also National Pokemon day too.

[John Holmberg]

James McCarthy emailed over Brady and says, hey, Brady, did you ever hear the thing about your French baker? Jean Laurent was over there on Epstein island for a little while. There's a rumor going around.

[Listener]

Yeah, he helped fund it, is what I heard. Had a little brasserie in the back there that John Larrat started at Epstein island in the food court. I don't believe it, but I'm talking about it.

[Dale Hellstray]

A couple of basis fun facts. The founder of Jersey Mike Subs is not named Mike. This guy named Peter Camcro who worked at the shop called Mike Subs in New Jersey when he was in high school.

[John Holmberg]

You know, he used to go there.

[Dale Hellstray]

Buy it and franchise it.

[John Holmberg]

Tripp Reed was friends with that guy because he was in that. He grew up in that neighborhood. He told me he was at the original Jersey Mike's with that. That dude Peter for a long time.

[Dale Hellstray]

The Nobel Peace Prize can only go to someone living. It wasn't given out in 1948 because Gandhi had just been assassinated and the committee ruled there was no suitable living candidate.

[John Holmberg]

Sorry, Hackman, you're not getting it.

[Dale Hellstray]

The Cliff Notes version of the Scarlet Letter outsells the actual book almost four to one.

[John Holmberg]

There's a lot of extra in that book. That's one of the few I had to read and actually read in school. Ms. Prynne does a lot of talking. What's her name? Harriet Prynne. Is that right? Oh, boy, oh boy, does she do a lot of talking. And for some reason, that's one I actually read. I think that's what put me off books, being forced to read those types of things. Like let's get right to Henrietta. Let's get right to the chase here. Who's she boning on the side? Which is. And why did you make kids read that? It's. The whole book is about a woman who cheats on her husband back in the olden times, and they brand her with the scarlet letter of adultery. And like, why do. Kid, why. Why do we need to know about that? Why Is that because it's a great work of literature, but aren't there others that don't make you question your parents relationship?

[Brett Vesley]

Remember watching that in junior high?

[John Holmberg]

The movie? Yeah. Remember Demi Moore was in it with Gary Old. Well, you watched the TV one then. Okay, I just watched an old match game.

[Brett Vesley]

Yeah.

[John Holmberg]

1980, Kirstie Alley was a contestant.

[Brett Vesley]

Oh, wow.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah. Year later she was in Star Trek.

[Dale Hellstray]

She did that first. Huh.

[John Holmberg]

Match Game.

[Dale Hellstray]

No, Star Trek was her first. People are putting a list together of things that. What was the biggest flop that was hyped? The next best thing.

[John Holmberg]

What do you mean?

[Dale Hellstray]

Buzzfeed Put it together.

[John Holmberg]

Oh, that was supposed to be the next best thing.

[Dale Hellstray]

Talking about who?

[Brett Vesley]

DeAndre Aiden.

[John Holmberg]

Oh, Jesus. But as far as people. Yeah, the Dreamcast.

[Dale Hellstray]

It's on the list of Sega Dreamcast. One of the gaming consoles that didn't catch on.

[John Holmberg]

It was horrible. House Party, the movie.

[Dale Hellstray]

A remote gaming app from the Pandemic. Quarantine.

[Dick Toledo]

The Microsoft Zune.

[John Holmberg]

Oh, the Zune is a big one.

[Dale Hellstray]

It's on there.

[Brett Vesley]

Windows phones, Google Glass, Google Glasses. Yeah. Except for Marcus plus was supposed to.

[Dale Hellstray]

Be the Facebook killer.

[John Holmberg]

Didn't work. 3D TV's terrible idea.

[Dale Hellstray]

Curved television.

[John Holmberg]

I knew the 3D. That was a bad idea because you had to pack a glasses. You do?

[Brett Vesley]

Yeah.

[John Holmberg]

Nothing was in 3D. Right.

[Dick Toledo]

You had to get special DVDs.

[Brett Vesley]

Yeah, I think special players too. It wasn't like a regular.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah, it was a terrible idea. You had to wear those dumb glasses and it barely worked. I was at Best Buy with them. I'm like, which TV's 3D? It's like the one you're looking right at. I'm like, are the glasses working? Oh, this show isn't 3D.

[Brett Vesley]

So just why are you showing it then?

[John Holmberg]

You know, there's Lasik and like all sorts of eye doctors that are trying real hard to get people to not wear glasses anymore. And your idea is to add glasses to my life.

[Dale Hellstray]

It put the segue on the list.

[John Holmberg]

Well, I think they thought it's been.

[Dale Hellstray]

20 years since we told we're going to be seeing them everywhere.

[John Holmberg]

I think they thought people were just going to stop walking and just use those everywhere.

[Dick Toledo]

Is it you that said, was it Jim Wilson that took a tumble on those in Chicago?

[John Holmberg]

We want. No, it wasn't Wilson. It was my friend Jeff. Just absolutely. He ate loads of. On the Segway tour in Chicago, Amazon announced we were playing football. Joe Libman me, because it's the only way I'll ever catch Joe Libman, he's black and so he's. We're same speed. It was the only time it was a fair race. Absolutely on sideways, Brett. Yeah.

[Brett Vesley]

Oh, on Segways. Okay, my bad.

[John Holmberg]

What do you mean?

[Brett Vesley]

Thought you guys are running.

[Listener]

Oh, no, of course.

[John Holmberg]

I'm not an idiot. You see me stories worth some Brady Story earlier. Good Lord. I'm not stupid enough to go. Yeah. Hey, limit two things I'll never say to Joe Libman. Hey, want to foot race for money? Or I can beat you in one on one. That's just not going to be a thing. So we got on Segways and we were racing and he tried to pass me. We're playing a little football and I smacked his hand away. And then Jeff comes up on the other side and I pushed and he just ate it. Completely ate it. It was great. Fell right off. We were. We were top. Speeding those things through grass. None too pleased was the Segway tour guide. And then we had the fat ice cream guys from City Slickers. They were on the thing too, and they were struggling mightily. They give you in Chicago, they take you over to Millennial park and like although the Bean. And then you go over by the fountain and it's a big tour. But there's this field of grass and trees, like a slalom thing. It's pretty training and they use it for training. So like, here's the thing. To learn how to turn right and left, just kind of navigate through the trees, then go down to the end of the line of trees, probably 15, 20 trees. And when you're comfortable, turn around and lean it and get a little gas going and start coming back and do that a couple of times. And it, you know, like, oh, and I got it pretty quick. Joe got it pretty quick. We're going. And then Ira and his brother Ezra, I don't know, they're fat guys. And they were. And they're going. And we. We were calling them that City Slickers. Ice cream guys. And they're going. And then one comes back and I mean, it was a flabberlanche. The fat was everywhere and rolling. Seemingly the inertia he would. He could still be circling the earth. He was. He was flying. He went so much faster than he was going on the Segway when he was catapulted off of it. And he was just going straight. And for no reason, the fat just said, get off. He would not. He wasn't struggling, just threw his fat ass somewhere else. And he rolled and rolled and rolled And Joe and I were dying because at the very least, our guy fell off because we were wrestling. Fat. Just fell off because he was fat. It was great. Segway tour was worth it. That was fun.

[Dale Hellstray]

Amazon announced they're rolling out a new version called Alexa plus to a handful of users in March. Everyone else has to wait a few more months. It's supposed to be more like an actual assistant. They say she can do things like make dinner reservations, order groceries, book an Uber, text people, buy stuff on Amazon and snag concert tickets when they hit Ticketmaster. She can also browse the Internet. One example they gave was getting appliance fixed. She can find a repair place, set up an appointment, add it to your calendar all on her own.

[John Holmberg]

Hmm.

[Dale Hellstray]

She also remembers things like, she can tell. You can tell her your family is coming over for dinner. And she might say, don't forget your nephew is gluten free.

[Brett Vesley]

He's not coming.

[Dale Hellstray]

My house can be proactive in other ways, like telling you to leave early because traffic is bad.

[John Holmberg]

Wait. It warns you when you have company that's gluten free coming over.

[Dale Hellstray]

It'll, like, know your family and will say, don't forget your nephew has.

[John Holmberg]

It's not my problem to remember that. If my nephew's coming over to my house and I've offered dinner and he comes over and bitches because he's gluten free, he should have told me that on the invite. Oh, I can't go to most dinners. I'm gluten free. I think I'm gonna cook just for you.

[Dale Hellstray]

Oh, you might know that or might have known that. And then you could have.

[Brett Vesley]

You're not invited.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah. A, you're not invited. B, on your way over, grab some gluten free food because there's none here.

[Dale Hellstray]

Well, then you can say, thanks, Alexa. Because then you can call them and say, don't, Don't, Lexus.

[John Holmberg]

No. If I invited everybody and they say, okay, but there's no special menu. You remember Greg's gluten free. Well, then Greg shouldn't go. If they don't tell me if you have a barbecue. And everybody said, oh, that's great, and I'm saying, I'm having a barbecue. You know what a traditional barbecue is? Don't come in with your barbecue pronouns and start trying to change the game. Barbecue pronouns. You come in. Oh, that's meat. I'm like, right, you agreed to come to a barbecue. You. Well, I can't eat meat and I'm gluten free. Well, you're going to stand here and not eat, then that's nobody's problem but yours.

[Dale Hellstray]

That's fine. I've done it. The other. I mean, like, if Kirby's had a birthday party or something.

[John Holmberg]

Well, they tell you what I just said. They tell you when you invite them. If they don't and Alexa has to remind you while they're on their way, they're not eating.

[Dale Hellstray]

It's not necessarily on their way. It's just saying you booked the dinner thing.

[John Holmberg]

My point being, if they agree to go, they're agreeing to the parameters set in place. If they don't say, I'm gluten free so I have to have my own special food. If it takes Alexa reminding me that dude, that dude's not doing his job. And then if he. Because if he crossed his arms, Alexa should have told him, like, no, no, you should have told me.

[Dick Toledo]

And then Alexa becomes the point of argument. Alexa, did you tell him to.

[John Holmberg]

It was on the list, sir.

[Dick Toledo]

Oh, so it is your fault.

[John Holmberg]

No, it isn't. It's your fault. You're the. You're the one. You're the cripple. Just because I didn't build it. Look, if I have a handicap relative and I invite everybody over for Christmas and it says, reminder, build some ramps for Dave. No, Dave can figure this out.

[Dale Hellstray]

Prime members will get it for free. Everyone else will have to pay 20 bucks a month.

[John Holmberg]

That'll actually just annoy you with other people's problems. Brady's got high blood pressure, so try to lay off this. No, it's his. His choice to eat this. What he wants. You got a lot of nerve coming to my house, telling me you're gluten free after the fact. Oh, is this pizza gluten free? No, we're all human. What's wrong with you? Can't have it. All right, guess what? You're not eating. That's rude. Yeah, I agree. You were very rude to try to make us change the menu. Cause one guy had a problem.

[Dick Toledo]

Enjoy today's calorie deficit.

[John Holmberg]

Right, yeah, you know what? You could lose a few pounds. Anyway. I hope your wife's gluten free too, because I've been looking at her ass. It's not. It's not pleasant.

[Dale Hellstray]

Foodies in China have reportedly flocked or been flocking to an unlikely destination, a funeral home, after a noodle dish served at its canteen went viral on social media. The dish is found at the Erlong Funeral Home in the southwestern province of Guizhou. The canteen caterers to the Funeral home customers basically started serving these noodles to comfort people. And as they're visiting the funeral home to mourn the passing of a loved one, now it's turned in. People are flocking this place and lining up saying, yeah, we're here to eat, see a loved one. But they're there for the noodles.

[John Holmberg]

You started this. You're a pioneer.

[Dale Hellstray]

$38 a bull.

[Brett Vesley]

Those pinwheels. Those pinwheels got nothing on those noodles.

[John Holmberg]

At my Uncle Bob's funeral. I'll never forget the first guy in line at my Uncle Bob's funeral. Pinwheels. Brady, what are you doing here? Come on.

[Listener]

Billy's doing the service.

[John Holmberg]

Like you didn't even know my uncle. I appreciate you popping by, but gotta support Billy.

[Listener]

What do we got over here? What's the spread like?

[John Holmberg]

I believe that was the exact phrase. What's the spread? Pinwheels.

[Listener]

Ah, pinwheels.

[John Holmberg]

Nice. That's a you thing. You should sue somebody before you get sued yourself by Yves St. Laurent.

[Dale Hellstray]

Got another story out of China. This guy in the heianan Province, he man.

[John Holmberg]

He man.

[Dale Hellstray]

Oh, it's close to his fiance before they got married. Wanted him to experience if they're gonna have kids. I want you to experience the pain of what it's like to have children.

[John Holmberg]

She wanted to put him through great pain. Yeah.

[Dick Toledo]

Torture him.

[Dale Hellstray]

Not clear why he accepted the test, but he went to the emergency. He went to the hospital where her sister worked, and her sister hooked him up with these electrical shock things to his just gonads. Abdominal region. Not to the gonads.

[John Holmberg]

That would have made more sense.

[Dale Hellstray]

Shocked him numerous times to feel the pain. But what happened was it locked up his muscles, the abdominal muscles, where he had to have emergency surgery. Almost died.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah.

[Dick Toledo]

Died from a cramp.

[John Holmberg]

Well, an extreme one. Yeah. Wow. You got a couple of Chinese scientists blasting your guts. It might be a problem.

[Dale Hellstray]

And afterwards he said, you know what? Let's not get married.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah.

[Dale Hellstray]

The sister and the mom couldn't understand why.

[Dick Toledo]

Yeah, I'm out.

[John Holmberg]

He shouldn't have agreed to that. And by the way, you're in China, so she's not that hot that she can't be replaced with a replica, like, within an hour. She's not standing out, like, as a Chinese woman, to the point where, like, I'll do anything for her. It's like, look, you're a dime a dozen around here. There's a billion of you. Literally.

[Dale Hellstray]

The owner of the Oasis Spa in New Jersey has been busted after the cops did a sting operation. Found out There were happy endings going on.

[John Holmberg]

Was Justin Tucker there?

[Dale Hellstray]

The owner of the Oasis Spa?

[John Holmberg]

No.

[Dick Toledo]

Those are. That's what they do. Where he was going. That's not what they do.

[John Holmberg]

Well, that is what they do. Well, he was doing it before they were enough money.

[Brett Vesley]

Yeah.

[Dale Hellstray]

Not making this up. The owner's name is Soon Bang.

[John Holmberg]

All right.

[Dale Hellstray]

When the police went in there, they found large quantity of condoms hidden within the mattress. In the back of a makeshift bedroom, they found a condom that was in a. Hidden in a plant. One of the rooms. Soon Bangs said the she had numerous workers in there. One of the workers, 67 year old spa worker admitted to engaging in sexual intercourse and providing hand jobs the clients in exchange for money. The detective. Detective D. Large. Stop not making this up.

[Brett Vesley]

Stop.

[John Holmberg]

Everything else this morning you've said has been made up. Why should we believe you now?

[Listener]

Rumor has it, Delarge, Delarge and Soon Bang.

[Dale Hellstray]

According to New Jersey state records, Oasis Spa was formed in May in 2022 by Dong May Wang.

[John Holmberg]

That's right.

[Brett Vesley]

There we go.

[Listener]

And her sister, gay pole.

[John Holmberg]

Look it up. Got a couple of Brady videos, by the way. Speaking of that, Justin Tucker's wife is. This is true. She let out a statement yesterday. I'm all over the Justin Tucker news because it brings me so much joy. So much joy. And she said that she stands by her husband who would never do such a thing. And these false allegations have hurt her and her family. And you know for a fact Justin is now fingers crossed that he's got some good lawyers because he lied to his wife to the point where she actually came out with a public statement saying all of the allegations are false.

[Dale Hellstray]

Standing by my man.

[Dick Toledo]

She's protecting her money.

[John Holmberg]

Allegations are false. And he is just like. Oh no. Did you. Did you put that out on a thread?

[Listener]

Yes. I'm in your corner, Justin. I believe you.

[John Holmberg]

Oh, no. You shouldn't have done that. Why? I don't know. It just makes. Oh no.

[Dick Toledo]

Money that you would pay. And your lawsuit is coming to me.

[John Holmberg]

He's gonna call that lawyer. Go. You've got to get me out of this or I've got to buy a huge ring. Kobe ring first.

[Dale Hellstray]

Radio video video is a little pageantry. Fail.

[John Holmberg]

Okay. It's a women's. Oh, she.

[Brady Bogan]

Oh.

[John Holmberg]

Ankle drop. She rolls her ankle in the bikini contest. Ankle rolls. Drops down on the throw action. Goes right to it.

[Dick Toledo]

Stepped on the cape.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah, yeah. So the cape takes her down. Her failure ankle rolls. She gets right back up. You know what? She's tougher than Everybody in the NBA, they'd have laid there for a half an hour. Soccer. Well, soccer fakes it on purpose. These NBA guys go down if anybody bumps lopping. I watched Royce O'Neill get hit in the head the other night. Just, you know, guy trying to block a shot, Elbow brushes across his head. He's on the ground, and he's just laying there like a corpse. Trainers. Everybody's coming over, like, four minutes, and I'm like, I thought you were from the mean streets. Everybody in the NBA is a mean. I had to fight my way to the top. I'm like, you can't take a punch at all. That was one bump to the back of the head, and you're out cold. None of these guys can take a punch.

[Dale Hellstray]

Next one's a scooter mashing. I don't know if you've shown this.

[John Holmberg]

One little scooter on the side and it's running and a bunch of people around. Now we're walking down the road to see what was on the scooter at one point. Oh, this dude is all over the place. His legs facing. Wave. Oh, his leg is facing. He's Gumby the wrong way, is he?

[Brett Vesley]

Look at those purple pants.

[John Holmberg]

Oh, it looks like why they canceled Stretch Armstrong. There's a lot leaking out of him, and he's.

[Dick Toledo]

And it's the same color.

[John Holmberg]

I was at the hardware store the other day, and they have miniature keychain Stretch Armstrongs. I almost bought one.

[Dick Toledo]

Really?

[John Holmberg]

Yeah. That's a hardware store. That ace hardware store. Hardware or true value? I don't know which one to go to. Little tiny. They have. As you're leaving. They got little Lego trucks and toys and stuff. Wow, that dude is all over the place. That was from a scooter wreck.

[Dale Hellstray]

Yeah. All right, last one's the knockout of the day.

[John Holmberg]

A couple of guys going at it, and what looks like downtown Albuquerque is my guess. Oh, and he throws a. 2 punches, 3 punches, 4 to the chin, and he's done. The guy's got. Oh, he's still up. He's getting up. Get. Take a kick to the face. Two kicks to the face, and he is officially asleep. Wow.

[Dick Toledo]

He's not here.

[John Holmberg]

The dude looks like he was pounding him, but evidently he's got feather dusters for fists because none of them. He's got to get his beer back.

[Dick Toledo]

The kick.

[John Holmberg]

One. Oh, man. Two. Three punches to the chin. The fourth one is. The fourth one. Almost. Fourth one drops him. He starts getting up, and the guy kicks him in the face once and.

[Dick Toledo]

Then he gets up again.

[John Holmberg]

It's fat me. And it kicks him in the face again.

[Dick Toledo]

It's fat homework.

[John Holmberg]

It is. It's fat me. Holy cow.

[Dick Toledo]

We need to get you a plaid shirt like that.

[John Holmberg]

Fat me's pretty solid. I need to start dressing like him. There's something, something.

[Brady Bogan]

Check out Homburg's morning sickness [e-mail] Holmberg's Morning Sick sickness.

[John Holmberg]

He's got nothing on his punches. I mean, they. The guy's not even putting his hands up. It's like a Rocky movie. Some defense. Wow. Mexican butterbean did some work. I like that. All right, Brett, what do you got?

[Brett Vesley]

All right.

[John Holmberg]

I'm worried. Too bad today it's the quiet pause that makes I get too excited. Somebody just. Somebody just text me, gene Hackman's dead. Yeah, yeah, we got that. We'll recap it every once in a while. But my theory is his kids killed him. His wife was 30 years younger, and she's dead, too. So we'll get back into that. Another. Evidently, people just waking up to the news again.

[Brett Vesley]

Here's some nosy neighbors taking some video.

[John Holmberg]

You gotta get the video up. You're killing me.

[Brett Vesley]

Sorry.

[John Holmberg]

Come on, man.

[Brett Vesley]

Wrong button.

[John Holmberg]

You're Toledo in this thing. Here we go. All right. This is from a neighbor cam.

[Brett Vesley]

Yeah.

[John Holmberg]

All right. Neighbor cam Through a window. Wow. Filming a guy raking. And then. What did I just watch? Just some death. People's crossing the road. Three or four. Three. And then a car just eats all of them. And it looks like it's aimed at him. He's, like, close to the curb.

[Dale Hellstray]

Looked like two of them stayed on the state. On the hood or the.

[John Holmberg]

Stuck to the car. Things happen.

[Listener]

Anyone's driving that car?

[John Holmberg]

Jean lan, he was.

[Listener]

It was the. It was one of the French Connection.

[John Holmberg]

Oh, God.

[Brett Vesley]

Hungry?

[John Holmberg]

This lady's eating a big pile of poo.

[Dale Hellstray]

Oh, God.

[John Holmberg]

She's.

[Dale Hellstray]

Yeah, it's.

[John Holmberg]

Listen, listen.

[Dick Toledo]

About when they're attractive.

[John Holmberg]

Listen to my. I don't know what you said about your cat there, lady. That was weird. Show that again.

[Brett Vesley]

All right.

[John Holmberg]

I just want to be quiet. Listen. That's what it sounds like to lick poop. The sensory explosion in the car. And she's mildly attractive, so you don't like to see her. She's all right. Yeah. And she's alone in that bathroom, so that's probably her own dropping.

[Brett Vesley]

I've never had a handy like this, but I guess it happens.

[John Holmberg]

Oh, no. Does she have crab claws?

[Dick Toledo]

Sandpaper?

[Brady Bogan]

No.

[John Holmberg]

Oh, God. She's Got sandpaper. Oh, no.

[Dale Hellstray]

60 grit. That's rough.

[John Holmberg]

Is there sound bread?

[Dale Hellstray]

60 grit?

[Brett Vesley]

I guess not.

[John Holmberg]

Don't do this. She's just rubbing it across the top at first. I have a feeling she's going to go full grip in a second. Oh, my God. What's with the lingerie? Why. Why go traditional with some of it? Oh, he's not even hard.

[Brett Vesley]

Like, let's move up a little bit here.

[John Holmberg]

Oh, she's got it wrapped around. She's doing the full stroke. Oh, good God. Oh, my God. Yeah, it's. It's.

[Brett Vesley]

We'll just get to the end because it's a five minute video.

[John Holmberg]

60. Oh, my God. Oh, he's bleeding all over the place. Oh, no. Oh, that's gonna hurt so much tomorrow. Oh, my Lord. Oh, my God.

[Brady Bogan]

How do these people find each other?

[John Holmberg]

What dating site offers that information? Good God.

[Brett Vesley]

Gerardo sent this one in. Is this. Do they teach you guys this in tactical black?

[John Holmberg]

Rico, it's okay. There's a couple people about to fight. Is that a tranny and a. I don't know what's going on here. Are they both men? No, that's a woman pulls her pants.

[Brett Vesley]

Down for no reason and starts fighting with.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah. Pants to the knees. And then. Oh, I think. Here's my theory. It looks a little like a transsexual, right? Yeah. And I think the one in the blue shirt accused the woman of being a man. Oh, and she just proved she's not. She pulled her pants down, showed that she's got a vagina.

[Brett Vesley]

Haymakers on her.

[Dick Toledo]

How about that? She left him down.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah. So she's fighting with them around her knees. And she does have women's parts. So she's very upset at the accusation that this man. And then beats the tar out of the skinny Indonesian. Oh, man. That's what I'm guessing happened. There's no other reason to show somebody your vagina.

[Brett Vesley]

Yeah, I was kind of wondering that.

[John Holmberg]

That's an oh, yeah moment.

[Brett Vesley]

Oh, yeah.

[John Holmberg]

No one just says you and then the pants come down and the punches fly.

[Brett Vesley]

This one is kind of be careful when you're filming as a tourist.

[John Holmberg]

Okay. Oh, there it is. It's the Exorcist. Oh, no. Oh, God. He's sitting on one of those poles that's designed to keep cars from crashing into a. And there's a video. He's got a better.

[Dick Toledo]

Is that a line?

[John Holmberg]

Okay, it might be. Had. His sweater was tied around his waist, and when he took the sweater off his waist, he had cut a Hole out of his jeans so he could go sit on the. On the pylons that keep you cars from crashing into things. So it's just like a. You can lock your bike to it, I suppose, too. Oh, God. And he's sitting on it. It's going in his bottom. The music's beautiful, isn't it?

[Brett Vesley]

Isn't it?

[John Holmberg]

Oh, my God. I just got an update. This is how Gene Hackman died.

[Brady Bogan]

Oh.

[John Holmberg]

And he didn't clean himself. He was not clean. He got off the little post, and there's a. A rust. Like a mustard. Mustard rust color on top.

[Brett Vesley]

And then we'll end with this. This is just.

[John Holmberg]

That one got me. I almost puked a little bit.

[Brett Vesley]

This one's just goofy, silly.

[John Holmberg]

All right. It's a African American little person. And he. Oh, God.

[Brady Bogan]

Oh, no.

[John Holmberg]

I'll explain this in a second. Okay, Let me help. All right, picture a tiny Tiger Woods. Picture a very small Tiger woods and a. And a Mexican Perkins waitress. And let's just say miniature Tiger woods has finished on the Perkins waitress chest nearby, he keeps a toothbrush. He scoops up his remains off of her chest. He looks just like Tiger Wood. He scoops off his goo from her chest and tries to brush her teeth with it. And then she beats him up, and he's. He chucks a towel at her like a good husband.

[Brett Vesley]

Well, in there, that. That could be a top 10 or there.

[John Holmberg]

She didn't notice the toothbrush on the couch.

[Brett Vesley]

Yeah, I don't know.

[John Holmberg]

What are we gonna do with that? He reaches over because he's tiny. He has to. It has to be close. Reaches over those little deformed arms and tries to brush her teeth with his junk, his goo. She was so happy up until then. The whole plan of that deal was him and his filming buddy to brush her teeth with his. Yummy. That's one of my favorites.

[Brett Vesley]

I saved it for the end of the year.

[John Holmberg]

Oh, man. I hope he succeeds with that someday and we get to see.

[Brett Vesley]

That's probably the next trend we had snorting it last year.

[John Holmberg]

So we want to see if a girl actually just cavity creeps, opens her mouth like she's at the dentist, and he just starts brushing. What if we found out that that was, like, a guaranteed way to fend off oral problems, man. Would you do it? Yeah. You would? No, you wouldn't. If it guaranteed your teeth were super white and you could never get gum disease.

[Brett Vesley]

What if you use brush with your own?

[Dick Toledo]

No, they still have dentists, right? I'm taking the Dennis route.

[John Holmberg]

I don't know.

[Dale Hellstray]

I'm just saying.

[John Holmberg]

I mean, we feed it to people constantly.

[Dick Toledo]

Yeah, we do.

[John Holmberg]

That's true. Not constantly, but.

[Dick Toledo]

Well, often.

[John Holmberg]

That's the goal.

[Dick Toledo]

Often enough.

[John Holmberg]

I mean.

[Dick Toledo]

Me.

[John Holmberg]

Why is it so bad? Really? When you think about it, you don't ever think how gross it is when Matthias doing it.

[Brett Vesley]

That's not mine. Put a couple of I'm not twinking around here.

[John Holmberg]

Twinking?

[Brett Vesley]

What do you mean if it's twinking? If it's. If it's.

[John Holmberg]

If it's your own juice. Yeah, but it keeps your teeth clean and white.

[Brett Vesley]

No, I'm out. It's like the arpeggio crest with whitening strips out there. I'm using that.

[John Holmberg]

But that doesn't work.

[Brett Vesley]

Yeah, I'll try it again. Hell no.

[John Holmberg]

But you'll actually bring yourself to that situation. And that's not gay.

[Brett Vesley]

Yeah, because I just throw it away. I'm not putting in my mouth. For Christ's sake. What the hell's wrong with you?

[John Holmberg]

What the hell is wrong with you? What is wrong with you? You spit it out. Unless you're weird. You're not good.

[Brett Vesley]

Then you're not.

[Dale Hellstray]

Okay.

[John Holmberg]

I'm just saying. No, we act like it's just so.

[Brady Bogan]

Oh, unbelievable.

[John Holmberg]

Who would ever. Like half the population does it.

[Brett Vesley]

Your grinder app's gonna be dinging right now after saying that.

[Dale Hellstray]

Put a couple of mint drops on there.

[Brett Vesley]

No, there's no retin in that stuff. I don't think.

[John Holmberg]

If it cured baldness.

[Dick Toledo]

No retin.

[John Holmberg]

If it cured baldness or high blood pressure.

[Dale Hellstray]

On the top of the rubbing on.

[John Holmberg]

Top of my nose. No, you gotta eat it. It's oral.

[Brett Vesley]

You gotta brush.

[John Holmberg]

You gotta eat it. Or brush with it. And it. And it cures high blood pressure. Cures it. No more pills.

[Brett Vesley]

Look at the pizzas you could have.

[John Holmberg]

You would rather risk stroke?

[Listener]

Yep.

[Dick Toledo]

He's already 60 with high blood pressure.

[Dale Hellstray]

What's made it this far?

[John Holmberg]

Are you crazy?

[Dale Hellstray]

That's what I'm saying.

[John Holmberg]

Just cuz you're surprised you made it to 60. Come on, you would. Not at all.

[Dale Hellstray]

Probably not.

[Brett Vesley]

Probably.

[John Holmberg]

Oh, man. Probably. That's just dumb.

[Dale Hellstray]

Yep.

[John Holmberg]

Like I understand for cosmetic reasons, but to keep you from stroking out. Like it guarantees you won't have strokes.

[Dale Hellstray]

Ask me again.

[John Holmberg]

But yet, Ronnie. Like, she does it and you're thrilled by it.

[Brady Bogan]

Here we go.

[John Holmberg]

Here we go. Right? No, I'm not gonna set you up with some terrible damage.

[Brett Vesley]

Oh, just do it now.

[John Holmberg]

I know you're uncomfortable with it, but still, you're so Happy when Ronnie goes gulp. I mean, like Toledo's kid paying rent.

[Dale Hellstray]

That was gonna be my answer eventually.

[John Holmberg]

I know. I know where you're going. But you wouldn't do that even if it cured high blood pressure.

[Dale Hellstray]

It cured high blood pressure.

[John Holmberg]

Cured it. Gulp. Yeah, you'd have to. It's not that big a deal. Come on. You guys act like it's. Like it's kryptonite or something, which it is, because immediately you're sleepy and you want to leave.

[Dick Toledo]

Why are you balled up twice a day in your bathroom?

[John Holmberg]

Well, you don't have to. You don't have to do. You just have to, you know, put it on a toothbrush? Yeah, do like Oliver Twist right into.

[Dick Toledo]

Your hands, making a sad.

[John Holmberg]

Who are you? Who wants more?

[Listener]

I still have hbp.

[Brett Vesley]

Worst part is, if Peter north shows up, the decorator shows up, my heart's.

[John Holmberg]

Gonna be pumping like it's brand new. Well, I'm not saying you get it from another fella. It's your own.

[Brett Vesley]

I've lived a good life.

[John Holmberg]

Oh, man. That's a chance, John.

[Dick Toledo]

I, for one, have convinced my wife that swallowing it keeps the breast cancer away.

[John Holmberg]

Cures cancer. We all try to tell our wives, oh, you know, it's good for a cold. We've looked. We've looked up articles. I've heard that's good for a sore throat.

[Dick Toledo]

How many other things do we use? Pineapple juice?

[John Holmberg]

Constantly. We tell them we can tell it, they do it, and you're like, yeah, that's great. It's like, hey, it cures high blood pressure. Not gay. Never. Yuck. What disease are you most afraid of?

[Brett Vesley]

None. If it compares to that.

[John Holmberg]

If that's the cure. You'll take anything? Yep.

[Brett Vesley]

Give it honor.

[John Holmberg]

You will die. Really? You like my 50s?

[Brett Vesley]

Good enough.

[John Holmberg]

A debilitating. A debilitating stroke that you'll never come back from. And all you have to do is drink a cup of your own. Nope. You'll. You're an idiot. Call it what it is. Twinkie.

[Dale Hellstray]

He sticks to it.

[John Holmberg]

No way. I'd blow you with half of my mouth to cure the other just so my face goes back to normal. You're an idiot.

[Brett Vesley]

I'm good.

[John Holmberg]

Twinkie. No way.

[Brady Bogan]

You have to help me.

[John Holmberg]

The doctor says the only way to fix it is if I blow you. I'm. I'm bothering you until the cops come. And by the cops coming, I mean fix them, man. Anyway, that's stupid.

[Brett Vesley]

Rico Blazes.

[John Holmberg]

You get cancer and they tell you, hey, it's terrible. It's gonna be painful and awful. It might last years. It's in your bones. But if you drink one of your own, you'll be fine. Like tomorrow.

[Brett Vesley]

Out.

[John Holmberg]

You would not. You'd eat it.

[Brett Vesley]

What difference does it make?

[John Holmberg]

The difference does it make. It's the difference between suffering from cancer.

[Brett Vesley]

You're the one right now. You're the one that always says, I'm okay to die.

[John Holmberg]

I don't want to suffer. I've said that several times. I. If I died, that's fine. I'm. I'm actually looking forward to it. But I don't want to suffer. If you can cure me from suffering. Yes.

[Brett Vesley]

Nine millimeter. Sit in the garage.

[John Holmberg]

A bullet than your own.

[Brett Vesley]

Yeah, I'd rather eat a loaded bullet than a load.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah.

[Brett Vesley]

Yeah.

[Dick Toledo]

That was Brady's joke.

[John Holmberg]

Maybe that's what Gene Hackman was thinking. Somebody goes, what happened to Gene Hackman? He's dead. I think his kids killed him. That's my theory. He, his 60 year old wife, one of their three dogs passed away. Found them all dead in the house. I'm gonna keep updating.

[Brett Vesley]

Still wondering what's with the other two dogs.

[John Holmberg]

The other two dogs lived, which means carbon dioxide. They did it.

[Brett Vesley]

Unless it's a dog.

[John Holmberg]

They did it. Well, if there's a doggie door, wouldn't the carbon monoxide have gotten all of them? The dogs don't know carbon monoxide.

[Brett Vesley]

Somebody also mentioned too, that maybe they were on the. On the floor. Maybe carbon dioxide doesn't. I don't know, maybe it doesn't. It's like it rises or something.

[John Holmberg]

Is it dioxide or monoxide, which kills.

[Dick Toledo]

Monoxide.

[Brett Vesley]

Monoxide. That's right.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah.

[Brett Vesley]

Carbon dioxide is what they put in your drinks.

[John Holmberg]

That's what makes bubbles. Maybe they just. Maybe they were just bloated, drinking too much perio. You're an idiot, Brett.

[Brett Vesley]

No.

[John Holmberg]

All of us would drink our own. Get on board.

[Brett Vesley]

Twink around all you want, pal.

[John Holmberg]

It's not twinking, it's mine.

[Dale Hellstray]

It is still low.

[Listener]

It's been all over me a hundred times.

[John Holmberg]

A hundred thousand.

[Brett Vesley]

How come you've never went finger licking good then?

[John Holmberg]

Because I'm not dying of cancer. Not an idiot.

[Brett Vesley]

Well, you said it's not that bad. It's the difference.

[John Holmberg]

I didn't. And it has accidentally gotten up into the area.

[Brett Vesley]

And did you go?

[John Holmberg]

No, I screamed. I screamed for my life. There you go. No, no, no. But I won't Scooby Doo it unless there's a purpose. Like, I'm just saying, I'm not afraid of it if it has a function.

[Brett Vesley]

All right, Scooby, Snark.

[John Holmberg]

Enjoy. Look, I would be. I'd scooby that thing right off my face if I had to take a facial and scooby it off to cure the cancer from. Yeah, I'd do that.

[Brett Vesley]

Is this mother effer really trying to talk us dudes into swallowing loads? You're totally flaming out now, bro.

[John Holmberg]

It's to Cure cancer, you bastard. 1 All I'm saying is what if.

[Dale Hellstray]

It hit your scenario?

[Brett Vesley]

What if it did and what if it didn't?

[John Holmberg]

No, no, that's the.

[Dick Toledo]

You wouldn't do it as a test, right?

[John Holmberg]

Yeah, if. How do you know somebody else did it first and doctors have come up with the science. It's science, you dumb son of a bitch.

[Brett Vesley]

People died of aids, but Magic Johnson, he wind up maybe taking a little.

[John Holmberg]

Man, he wouldn't admit it.

[Brett Vesley]

Yeah, he gulped.

[Dale Hellstray]

He'd admitted by now a billionaire, he'd.

[Dick Toledo]

Make him another billion on cookie.

[John Holmberg]

I ate my own. Come on, Cook.

[Brett Vesley]

Somebody wants to know if you'd got. If you get rid of the Juno's and grew hair, would you take it?

[John Holmberg]

Yeah, in a second. All right, your Juno shrinks down to regular sized human nose. And you have Fabio's hair by the end of the day. What do I have to do? Just drink some. Jesus Christ. That was fast.

[Dale Hellstray]

Wrong one.

[John Holmberg]

Come on, that's dumb. That's what people are saying now. So you don't masturbate because it's. It would be touching some guy's junk. That's twinking too.

[Brett Vesley]

I'm not putting it in my mouth.

[Brady Bogan]

You're not jerking a dude off.

[Brett Vesley]

I'm not ingesting it though. That's the difference.

[John Holmberg]

So you jerk me off.

[Dale Hellstray]

So long as you don't swallow.

[Brett Vesley]

Not you. Why would I do that to you?

[John Holmberg]

Well then who? Me, Myself and I. Same thing. We'll talk. Maybe.

[Brett Vesley]

If Frank Sinatra came back to life.

[John Holmberg]

If that meant Frank Sinatra lived again, would you eat your own? I would. Think about it. There we go. Anyway, you bring the whole Rat Pack back and I hate you got something. I hate topics like this because I know Beth talking about the same thing. Just homogenized radio all over the place.

[Dick Toledo]

Remember that email we got last week?

[John Holmberg]

John J. And Rich talk the same news stories as. I know. It's all the same.

[Brett Vesley]

Think they got this one?

[John Holmberg]

Yeah. Oh, for sure.

[Dick Toledo]

Hey, if it cured. If anything to do with your face, they'd be all.

[John Holmberg]

Oh, if John Jay could find out there's a Cosmetic surgery. You rub that all over your face.

[Dick Toledo]

Every day, John Jay.

[John Holmberg]

What isn't on his face? Yeah.

[Dick Toledo]

Jesus Christ. Hard pass. I'm with Brett and Brady on this one.

[John Holmberg]

What's wrong with your stuff? Mine probably tastes great. I don't know. But if it cured cancer.

[Brett Vesley]

Let's know then.

[John Holmberg]

Dude. I'd be drinking it like insurer.

[Dick Toledo]

It'd be an acquired.

[John Holmberg]

Let us know then. I will. I hope. You know what I hope? I hope. Here's what I hope, Brett. I hope you get cancer. I hope you get cancer soon. And I hope that the doctors say. But there is a weird thing about your body and an anomaly that your own semen cures cancer. I hope that happens.

[Brett Vesley]

I've lived a good life, pal.

[John Holmberg]

I'm out.

[Dale Hellstray]

I've lived a life full.

[John Holmberg]

I'm going to. I need my way to Brady's God. Dear Brady's God, please give Brett cancer that's only curable by his own semen. And he has to drink 10ccs a day.

[Brett Vesley]

No.

[John Holmberg]

Lamb of God. John.

[Dick Toledo]

I spend a lot of time in cabin up on the High Line. And there's a lot of times during the winter I have snot dripping out of my nose. I'm not gonna ingest that either. It's the same thing to me.

[John Holmberg]

It is.

[Dick Toledo]

That's what I say too. It is.

[Brett Vesley]

It's not from a different area.

[John Holmberg]

It is not. I guess it could be an argument made for that. Yeah. It's mucusy. Antimicrobial.

[Dick Toledo]

Okay, maybe one has one thing.

[John Holmberg]

But I'll tell you this Highline guy. Your finger's been jammed in that nose a million times. And you've pulled it out and maybe eaten some. And by the way, the way your body's designed dip High Line guy. You swallow snot constantly. Oh.

[Dick Toledo]

And you're sleeping.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah.

[Dale Hellstray]

When you're awake, but you don't have.

[Brett Vesley]

A crank up there and you're swallowing that.

[John Holmberg]

That would be dumb. And you still don't have to do that.

[Brett Vesley]

See, that is dumb.

[John Holmberg]

You're an idiot, John. Swallow snot every time you swallow.

[Dick Toledo]

With all your medical knowledge, can I at least do my load in a protein shake maybe?

[Listener]

Yeah, mix it up.

[John Holmberg]

I'm fine with that. Like Freddie say I put in a cup of noodles or something. It just has to be in there. Actually, I don't like that because I think scientifically when it heats up, it kills the properties you need.

[Dick Toledo]

Like a just.

[Dale Hellstray]

You can do a cold mix shaker bottle.

[Dick Toledo]

I'm never gonna look at those the same Way again.

[Dale Hellstray]

Those cold little oats.

[John Holmberg]

Oh, God, those things. See, I'm already unhealthy. I don't eat oats now. No, no, I'm not doing that. Just a straight shot. I think I'm going straight in. You drink sambuca? Yeah, I'd rather drink my own. All right. Challenge. Trust me, not a challenge. Give me five minutes, I'll bring back my shot. You drink your sambuca.

[Dick Toledo]

All right, you bunch of hypocrites. Which one of you has never kissed their girl after a mouth hook?

[John Holmberg]

You know who you are after a mouth. A full, finishing mouth hug. That's. That's used. Yeah, see? Yeah, there you go.

[Brett Vesley]

What's the difference?

[John Holmberg]

One's. One's used. It was yours. I don't. I don't want to use.

[Dick Toledo]

See, I don't want secondhand.

[John Holmberg]

I'm not sitting on someone else's bicycle seat. Yeah. I want it straight from the tap. You know what else I have never done? Like, Megan will take a sip of something. I'm like, pour that. Throw that in my mouth. That's gross. That's just not how.

[Brett Vesley]

You just want it right from the.

[John Holmberg]

Tap, right out of the tap. Okay. All right. Lips on the drop. Little homburg bound right in my throat. No time. No time. All the time in the world, baby. But you'd do that if it brought Sinatra back to life.

[Brett Vesley]

I said, think about it.

[John Holmberg]

How about this? What if, for a week, you had to eat your own, and you got 24 hours of Frank Sinatra at 45 in Vegas? 24 hours a day.

[Brett Vesley]

Oh, man.

[John Holmberg]

Full day with you and Sinatra. Be tough.

[Brett Vesley]

I mean, maybe the whole Rat Pack.

[John Holmberg]

You gotta eat every time for a week, and you have to do it every day, and it'll bring them back to life. God, this is the worst. This is the worst Disney movie. Yeah.

[Brett Vesley]

No, I'm out.

[John Holmberg]

You wouldn't do that, right? That day with Sinatra at the Sands?

[Brett Vesley]

Nah. Maybe a one and done, but that's about it.

[John Holmberg]

Not a week. Wow. Okay, now, hold on. Why would it be so bad to do it. Why would it be so bad to do seven if you've done one? One?

[Brett Vesley]

I don't know. I just.

[John Holmberg]

Now, after, like, on Wednesday, you'd be like, it's not bad.

[Brett Vesley]

No, I'm out.

[John Holmberg]

Let's go out and pull some grapefruit. Starts tasting pretty citrusy.

[Dick Toledo]

Put the poly walnuts.

[Dale Hellstray]

Get that pineapple in there on the sides.

[John Holmberg]

Get that in there and maybe get a hankering for it. And you can bring back the whole Rat Pack.

[Dale Hellstray]

Every day.

[John Holmberg]

Every day is a Rat Pack member. I'd skip Friday because Joey Bishop's a draft. You Peter Lawrence, too? Kind of like, you know, it wasn't. Yeah, you, Sammy, Dean and Frank. And all you got to do is eat everybody's junk in here.

[Brett Vesley]

Nah.

[John Holmberg]

No, I'd do that. And I'm not even that big a fan of those guys just to have him in the room. Hey, how'd this happen? That twink over there sucked down all these dudes.

[Brett Vesley]

Thank you.

[John Holmberg]

Brought us back from the grave.

[Dale Hellstray]

He's a good man.

[John Holmberg]

Hey, man, great job on the old swallow.

[Brett Vesley]

There's enough twinks in this world to do that.

[John Holmberg]

The Twinkie man can just wiping his mouth. This is magic.

[Dick Toledo]

We always get texters that go a little too far.

[John Holmberg]

I'm gone too far, John.

[Dick Toledo]

Before my wrestling tournaments, I like to rub it in my beard and let it dry so it gets all over my opponent.

[John Holmberg]

All right, let me ask you this. First off, first question I got about that is, what'd you have a beard and wrestling for? What are you, like 40 kids wrestling with beards?

[Dick Toledo]

And how big is it? Like one of those full diamond beards.

[John Holmberg]

One of them Gilbert kids that's like 22 in high school with a full beard.

[Brett Vesley]

Weird how many kids you have in the crawl space.

[John Holmberg]

Jesus.

[Dick Toledo]

If I win the match, then I win. If I lose, then the joke's on them.

[John Holmberg]

How much face to face contact was going on in your wrestling? That guy was licking my beard the whole match. I hate to break it to you. You weren't on the wrestling team.

[Dick Toledo]

John, listening to you these past 20 minutes, you seem like a dude who likes a snowball every now and then.

[John Holmberg]

No, that's gross. It's used. It's already been through the wall.

[Brett Vesley]

He wants it straight from the tap.

[John Holmberg]

Straight out of the tap. I don't need it. I don't need, like, truffle butter or cream pies and yuck.

[Dick Toledo]

How come you didn't offer Brady any food? Like a lifetime membership to Viet Shack or any other food business? He wouldn't be able to say no go.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah, exactly. What he do it. It's 8:30.

[Dick Toledo]

If we're bringing back the Rat Pack.

[John Holmberg]

We'Re bringing back the Rat Pack. I think we should all do it in front of each other and then watch that magic Ouija board action. So that's. The room starts spinning with stars and stardust and mercury. Whoa. New York, New York. They're coming back. Keep jerking. Yeah, if you believe it, it can happen. Bert I'll see you tomorrow. What are you wasting it all for? You don't know? You eat your own, I come back for 24.

[Dick Toledo]

Oh, somebody's projecting. Homeberg, you fantasize about a lot of gay stuff, my man.

[John Holmberg]

For real G scenario. It's not gay fantasy. Gay fantasy is easy.

[Dick Toledo]

Jesus. It's got to be difficult for Brady trying to raise Kirby while also trying to lower his blood pressure and cholesterol. Brady knows God is watching so he would never gulp himself. That would disqualify him.

[Listener]

Wouldn't that be God's plan?

[John Holmberg]

Yeah, that's true. The stupid thing is it's God's plan if he made it the cure. And he's involved. Right. Anyway, whatever. We'll get Dale's answer on this in a minute. It's 98 KUPD. There goes your breaker.

[Dick Toledo]

Hey, it's not weird.

[Brady Bogan]

It's pretty cool actually.

[Dick Toledo]

No membership fee.

[John Holmberg]

I have heard enough of this morning sickness. The old method of treatment for a.

[Brady Bogan]

Person in this condition was to throw him in jail.

[John Holmberg]

Gets better every time I hear it. That's a new one from Disturbed. I will not break. We're all. You know I've been doing the main amount of speculating on Gene Hackman's passing. 95 year old man with a 63 year old wife or however 623 and she's dead. And that one of the three dogs is dead. And now the news story just popped up here. Family suspects carbon monoxide poisoning. Oh, do you h that's convenient. I still say they're in on it happens. It does happen. They interviewed the daughter, Elizabeth Jean Hackman. Oh, probably carbon monoxide poisoning. So sad that our dad and his wife who's 30 years younger than him and a little younger than us too are both gone. And now the estate will go to us a better her kids are always the first ones. I watch too many murder shows. Always the first ones. I suspect when dad and new wife die together. Especially if it's some young spinner that he went and got some chippy. He pulled some chippy out of the mix. It's either going to be the ex wife or it's going to be the kids if there's foul play, which to me seems likely. Well you don't find a lot of dead bodies and one out of three dogs dead in the same house. If it's an equal amount of carbon monoxide. That's not a. You can't smell it. That's why you have to have sensors in your house for it. Surprisingly and looking at the picture of his estate as well, it looked pretty new. Pretty sure. They make you put carbon monoxide things in when you do. I know. When I did the addition on my house, they made me do the whole house. The city made me go put all new fire and carbon monoxide things all through the house just because that one room got added on. One of my eyebrows is up. But we're on to bigger and better things. Brett. Yes, Margot Robbie. Free baby wants to do a little snowplow action.

[Dale Hellstray]

Snowball.

[John Holmberg]

It's a snowplow, too. Brady, what do you got?

[Brett Vesley]

No, I'm out.

[John Holmberg]

Not doing it.

[Brett Vesley]

I'm out.

[John Holmberg]

Even Margot Robbie.

[Brett Vesley]

I'm out.

[John Holmberg]

With Margot Robbie.

[Dale Hellstray]

Yeah.

[John Holmberg]

Truffle butter.

[Brett Vesley]

She wants. She wants a twink. She can take a twink.

[Listener]

She's not twinking.

[Brett Vesley]

You're just twinking.

[John Holmberg]

This one says. John, I got a new scenario for you. Would you brush with Dale's baby batter if it meant the Ravens never win another super bowl three times a day?

[Brett Vesley]

Dale's gonna be on top of the console when he walks in today.

[Brady Bogan]

Hey, Johnny, I guess you said you do well.

[John Holmberg]

If you could show me in some wizard crystal ball, the guarantee. Okay, I would do that. But if the. If it was wrong and the Ravens ever did win a Super Bowl, Dale, like, his whole body explodes and then reanimates and explodes, and that's all he feels for eternity. I'd have to have some sort of guarantee that Dale is injured for life. But absolutely for the. I would do a lot, lot of stuff to guarantee that the Ravens never win it again. And it would never be known. It would be my moment with, you know, Zoltan or Zoltar, which is the one that made Tom Hanks big.

[Brett Vesley]

Zoltar.

[John Holmberg]

Zoltar.

[Brett Vesley]

Zoltan's for 500.

[John Holmberg]

Zoltan's a drone of 500. I wouldn't blow Zoltan, but I blow Zoltar. And they would put that little ticket out. Only you know that the Ravens can never win a Super bowl again for what you've done.

[Brett Vesley]

Thomas wants to know, Brady, would you take your load if Porkopos was revived.

[John Holmberg]

As reward and franchised out almost like McDonald's?

[Dale Hellstray]

No.

[Brady Bogan]

What?

[Brett Vesley]

Man, you're.

[John Holmberg]

You're a liar. First of all, if you had 20 locations of Porkopolis thriving, and all you had to do is one of your own.

[Brady Bogan]

Go.

[John Holmberg]

Come on. Why do you say no to start, then why do you have to?

[Dale Hellstray]

That's fun to see.

[John Holmberg]

No, it's not. It isn't. Rise. It's a fear to fear the truth. Silly bastard. Anyway, Gene Hackman's dad, everybody keeps talking about that. I get it. You just woke up and you're like, gene Hackman's dead man. We know about that.

[Dale Hellstray]

Not one Michelle Trachtenberg.

[John Holmberg]

Nobody has. Yeah. Nobody has emailed me and said, did you hear about the girl from Euro Trip? Nope. I know she's dead, too. Yeah. But again, I like the two theories. I like the one that these people came up with. But the Epstein list goes out to today, and there's a guy emailing me going, you don't think Trump's going to be on that list? You're crazy. Maybe he is, but I think Trump's people are too excited about bringing it to our attention. They've got something more important than Trump being on that list that they can't wait to let out of the bag. They cannot wait to let that cat out of the bag to say, we found something. We can't wait to tell the world about it. Maybe it means Trump's on this fly list. First things first. Nobody cares about the fly list. That's been a. Now she's got details and she's going to read them today.

[Dale Hellstray]

I mean, and then the fact that there was some denying going on, I think even, you know, Clinton at first.

[Brett Vesley]

Like, yeah, I knew him.

[Dale Hellstray]

I went over there and sure. He had a seat named after.

[John Holmberg]

Sure.

[Brett Vesley]

I think what they need to do is find out where the Clintons are today.

[John Holmberg]

That's the thing. The allegations are in Washington, dc. Oh, man. Because they'll be on top of you. Yep. You know, sniper's nest. The. The thing that I read this morning was that she's got allegations that she's going to spill. Not just necessarily people.

[Dale Hellstray]

Yeah.

[John Holmberg]

So she's got details that we haven't heard yet. Maybe it comes out like the last thing. The Epstein thing was like this big list, and everybody's like, yeah, we kind of knew all these people were there. The list wasn't unimpressed. But now she's got like. And there's that whole moment where that had to be, hey, look what I've got. And they're like, we got him. And I don't know who are. I don't know who they are, but it feels like he's saying, we got him. Leak this. Get it out fast.

[Dale Hellstray]

So it's kind of like the White Party Diddy would have.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah.

[Dale Hellstray]

There's a lot of people that went to him.

[John Holmberg]

That doesn't mean you did it, but you were. You Know you're, you're complicit. If you knew what was going on there, it doesn't help you out to be multiple trips to the Epstein island and then find out that 250 different incidents occurred and the people that were part of this were always there. And you knew, like, ah, some fish going. I mean they, they called it the Lolita Airlines. That one thing Trump had when he had. The thing is, you know, we love, we love him. He's a great guy. Loves, loves the ladies. Young, young girls. That's an actual clip of Donald Trump talking about Jeffrey Epstein where he says he likes him young. I mean, he didn't say how young, right? He didn't. Yeah, we all love him young. Not that young. Gene Hackman loved them young.

[Brett Vesley]

Yeah, exactly.

[John Holmberg]

And that's why his kids killed him and his. Their stepmom. It's when your stepmom's your age and your dad made $60 million, good chance stepmom's gonna die the same day as dad. And that just happened. I'm just, I'd be a good investigator because I take worst case scenario when I work back. I don't give benefit of the doubt. That's not good investigating. You assume horrible, hope for the best. And I'm looking at this and I'm like, oh, there's some fishy potential here. They tried to do that and then immediately come out the night. Oh, we went to carbon monoxide is what we think.

[Brady Bogan]

Think.

[John Holmberg]

Oh, do you. How'd the other two dogs make it? You know, they swallowed my dad's yummy once and I think it cured him. Your face.

[Dale Hellstray]

Could have been the older dog sleeps in the bed with them.

[Brett Vesley]

Let's test this one.

[John Holmberg]

Let's test this one out. What does it cure, though? What would you rather do, Brady, to get all your dreams or cures of anything? You want cured, you have to go vegan completely or gulp one shot a month.

[Dale Hellstray]

Vegan, you'd go vegan?

[John Holmberg]

Oh, man. Never hurt.

[Brady Bogan]

No.

[Listener]

A shot.

[John Holmberg]

You'd give up all that barbecue and all that meat because you won't do this.

[Brett Vesley]

He'd have smoked Brussels sprouts on the smoker.

[Dale Hellstray]

I like, like to believe I could do that.

[John Holmberg]

You could not.

[Dale Hellstray]

He'd like to believe it.

[John Holmberg]

You would like to believe it.

[Brett Vesley]

He'd like to believe Santa Claus was real.

[John Holmberg]

That's just idiot. Anyway, long story.

[Dale Hellstray]

Yeah, I could do it. Well, I could do either one.

[Brady Bogan]

Vegan?

[Dale Hellstray]

No, not vegan.

[John Holmberg]

You couldn't. Well, then you couldn't do either one. I Could do either one. Vegan. No, not that one.

[Dale Hellstray]

You know what? I'll do both.

[Listener]

I could do vegan.

[Dale Hellstray]

Vegan.

[John Holmberg]

You could.

[Listener]

No, do the other one.

[John Holmberg]

Just that you couldn't do vegan. You would kill yourself. I'll tell you. I know exactly how. I figured you'd say you go vegan. You know what I would do? I'd make the biggest, juiciest steak and put it right in front of you. And I think I could even finish on it. And you'd be like, I'm eating that steak.

[Listener]

I gotta have that meat. I don't care what's on there.

[Dale Hellstray]

And damn it, dairy too.

[John Holmberg]

Johnny style.

[Dale Hellstray]

No dairy.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah, you get rid of all. All. It depends on how strong you are. Vegetarian versus vegan. Me too. Yeah, because you can't have eggs and butter. Yeah, ice cream. You. No way. It's 9:00. Dale Hellistrat is going to join us a little bit for sports talk. And here come them sons. Boy, I don't even know if we want to talk about.

[Brett Vesley]

There go them sons.

[John Holmberg]

Ugh. Going to their game tonight. Three. Three games the next four days. A buoy. Dale's gonna join us in just a little bit. It's 98 KUPD.

[Dick Toledo]

It's not weird.

[Brady Bogan]

It's pretty cool, actually.

[John Holmberg]

No membership fees. I have heard enough of this morning sickness. The old method of treatment for a.

[Brady Bogan]

Person in this condition was to throw him in jail.

[John Holmberg]

And her friend Dale Hellasre has joined. Joined us once again as he does on every Thursday. Brought to you by our friends at Prestige billiards. Prestige Billiards AZ.com use meathead98 in the promo code. Get yourself 10 off anytime you go to their website and grab something or their three stores all around the valley. Prestige billiards AZ.com Welcome, Dale.

[Brady Bogan]

Well, thank you. Always good to be here on a Thursday. You guys are not a particularly good mood today. A lot of bitching and moaning.

[John Holmberg]

What are we bitching about?

[Brady Bogan]

Well, you spend an hour just. Just bitching about the suns.

[John Holmberg]

Well, just.

[Listener]

You were bitching with me.

[John Holmberg]

It wasn't an hour.

[Brady Bogan]

I'm not a season ticket holder.

[John Holmberg]

Oh, well, it doesn't matter. Everybody needs to know if you want to join in on our last conversation. Would you swallow your own if it.

[Brady Bogan]

Meant it kill what be stroganoff.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah. Yep. Yep.

[Dale Hellstray]

Good way to put it.

[John Holmberg]

That's a great way to put it. Dale, would you. Would you do that to like for your hip? No more pain in your body.

[Brady Bogan]

What'd you answer, Brady?

[John Holmberg]

Well, he Says no all the time. But then you give him the scenario where it's like, oh, geez, think about it. Yeah. Brett says he would die of, like, painful cancer before he'd take his own.

[Dale Hellstray]

Jerry.

[Brett Vesley]

Why not have lived a good life?

[John Holmberg]

The only way he would do it if it brought Frank Sinatra back to life.

[Brett Vesley]

Well, I was. I was thinking about that. The jury's still out.

[Brady Bogan]

How old are you?

[Brett Vesley]

51.

[Brady Bogan]

51.

[John Holmberg]

What does that have to do with. With it?

[Brady Bogan]

Well, you lived a good life. There's still a lot left to live. You got raise a kid.

[John Holmberg]

He doesn't have a kid.

[Brett Vesley]

No.

[John Holmberg]

No children?

[Brett Vesley]

No.

[Brady Bogan]

Oh, that's Toledo.

[Brett Vesley]

I didn't wreck my life with one of those. That's why I lived a good life.

[John Holmberg]

That's right.

[Brady Bogan]

Wow, wow, wow.

[John Holmberg]

He's right.

[Brady Bogan]

No, no, no. Brady dad stick together.

[John Holmberg]

That's right.

[Brady Bogan]

Girl dads. Girl dads.

[John Holmberg]

Speaking of sticking together, your tummy is all covered. You have to eat that. Do you do it?

[Brett Vesley]

Should we show them the video? No, it's not. It's not.

[John Holmberg]

It's.

[Brett Vesley]

No, I swear.

[John Holmberg]

It's actually bad. Not bad.

[Brett Vesley]

It's not bad.

[John Holmberg]

It's hilarious.

[Brady Bogan]

You guys.

[John Holmberg]

You got a tiny little Michael Irvin.

[Brady Bogan]

You guys are sick and wrong.

[Brett Vesley]

Well, this is how the conversation came up.

[Brady Bogan]

This is.

[John Holmberg]

This was the. The origin story, and it's not bad.

[Brett Vesley]

It's not bad?

[John Holmberg]

No, because I bet somebody at the White House tried this once. Now, look, he's finished up on this girl. Girl and the midget, he grabs a toothbrush, and he tries to brush her teeth with it. She fights him.

[Brady Bogan]

He's a little fella. He looks like Brady.

[Brett Vesley]

The hell out of him, too.

[John Holmberg]

He's ripped, though. That guy does some gym work, and then he drops. So we said, well, that's not so bad. And, you know, a woman getting mad at. We always do that stuff where we're hypocrites and say, oh, she can do it. She can do it. Yeah, but if it cured cancer, if it got you. If somebody asked me, would I take your shot? If it meant the Ravens never win a Super bowl again. Stand up on the console. Let's do this. If it means the Ravens going, I hate the Ravens so much that, yeah, I would be your gay twink lover for a day. Whatever you want to do. I'd be your rag doll. If it was guaranteed across the river.

[Brady Bogan]

Would you let Brady be from behind and me be from the front?

[John Holmberg]

What if it meant the Ravens don't win anything ever again? I'd close my Eyes have at me, boys, because in my brain, I can justify all of why that's happening. I can make it all.

[Brady Bogan]

Are you afraid of all that you might like it a little?

[John Holmberg]

No. No.

[Brady Bogan]

A little?

[John Holmberg]

No. I'm positive. No, I know I wouldn't. And first off, if I was going to be gay, you two are not on the list.

[Dale Hellstray]

You would like it.

[John Holmberg]

I'm not. No, I wouldn't. Wouldn't? No. I asked Ronnie. She said I wouldn't. Said it would be awful. Trust me. Yeah. It's not a thing.

[Brett Vesley]

Would you do it for another super bowl ring?

[Brady Bogan]

No. Third three is a good number.

[John Holmberg]

Hall of fame.

[Brady Bogan]

No. When you. But you start talking about, hey, if I could live. Pain free.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah. Pain free.

[Brady Bogan]

It's mine.

[John Holmberg]

Because you got a lot.

[Dale Hellstray]

Yeah.

[John Holmberg]

Knees and hips and stuff. Yeah. And all you gotta do is.

[Brady Bogan]

You're. I would contemplate. I would have to. I'd have to have a lot of alcohol.

[John Holmberg]

Well, yeah. It doesn't make sense why you have to be so drunk. You can do a blank.

[Brady Bogan]

That's weird.

[John Holmberg]

It is a little weird. But again, like we've said the whole morning, it's like you've been jerking a guy off for, like, 60 years.

[Brady Bogan]

Who?

[John Holmberg]

You.

[Brady Bogan]

I've been jerking a guy off?

[John Holmberg]

Yeah, yourself. Isolate. Isolate that sound. Toledo. I got him to say it. I got him to say it. Oh, please, God. Put that in my computer right now. It's gonna be your new ringtone. Oh, my God.

[Brady Bogan]

Whenever day.

[John Holmberg]

Stale text. I've been drinking again. Oh, it's down. I got it. Anyway, I had no idea. Let's deal with people. And the thing is, is that this.

[Brady Bogan]

Is like, people just.

[John Holmberg]

Oh.

[Brady Bogan]

Oh, no.

[John Holmberg]

The Sophie's Choice. You got to take your own every day to save your daughter. That's a good one.

[Brady Bogan]

Brady Gulp.

[John Holmberg]

Yep. To save Dale's daughter. That's nice guy.

[Brady Bogan]

Hey, 63. You know if it'd be different if I was 30?

[John Holmberg]

Because of volume.

[Brady Bogan]

Yeah.

[John Holmberg]

It's not. Peter north, your prostate isn't what it used to be, is what you're saying.

[Brady Bogan]

Yeah.

[John Holmberg]

Sort of like a. Like a retarded kid on a roller coaster puking up a little soup sip. It's like when a baby. Yeah.

[Brady Bogan]

Ain't gulping.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah. It's like when a baby burps up.

[Dale Hellstray]

It's a nice tipple.

[Brady Bogan]

Oh, just wipe that off.

[John Holmberg]

You just get it off his chin. That's fine, little fella. Good job, little fella. I'm going to sleep. Yeah, I know. Anyway, let's talk a Little sports while we're here. Okay, let's talk. You have your radio show on WTFN AM Main Radio. What is it again?

[Brady Bogan]

WTSM with Steve McCollum.

[John Holmberg]

I threw letters out. I almost nailed it.

[Brady Bogan]

Yeah, you did. Yeah.

[John Holmberg]

Wow. WTSM tv, Former Mustang.

[Brady Bogan]

All former Mustangs.

[John Holmberg]

That's right. You were an SMU Mustang. And we were educated Mustangs. Dobson, which has their high school coach.

[Brady Bogan]

Football coach Newcomb's going over there.

[John Holmberg]

Oh, they got. They already hired somebody. Who's Newcomb?

[Brady Bogan]

Duke Newcomb. He's been around here for a while. Pretty successful.

[John Holmberg]

Really?

[Brady Bogan]

Yeah. They might, you know, get to 500.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah.

[Brady Bogan]

There's no athletes at Dobson?

[John Holmberg]

No, not.

[Brady Bogan]

There never have been.

[John Holmberg]

Oh, no. Derek.

[Brady Bogan]

One. Toby.

[John Holmberg]

TC and Toby Wright. Who.

[Brady Bogan]

Who's the first one?

[John Holmberg]

TC? Toby Wright. Right.

[Brady Bogan]

Okay.

[John Holmberg]

TC's his brother. They were twins.

[Brady Bogan]

Okay. So two and 50 years.

[John Holmberg]

TC almost killed me once. That's when I quit football. I was five. Five. I'm playing quarterback. I'm five five. And he came around the corner and just lit me up in a practice.

[Brady Bogan]

And it was practice.

[John Holmberg]

He wasn't even. Wasn't even supposed to be there. He was, like, on the varsity team. And I was just messing around. And I, like. I don't want any more of that. God, I was too little. My dad was right. He had me scared to. That I was, too. So I could throw a mile, but it was too little. Little.

[Brady Bogan]

There's certain people that I would have loved to share the field with.

[John Holmberg]

Oh, you'd have? Absolutely. Look, people loved me. I was a leader when they. When they could. When they could spring me. There he is. That little ant over there is talking. I was so small. I was a tiny little guy.

[Brady Bogan]

You know what? I went to SW High School as a freshman.

[John Holmberg]

I was 5 8-130- I graduated 511, 130. Man, you guys were tall. And I'm 6ft now. I'm 6ft.

[Brady Bogan]

And I'm.

[John Holmberg]

And I'm proud because I'm trying to put weight on a proud 218.

[Brady Bogan]

Yeah. Oh, you're trying to put weight on?

[John Holmberg]

I'm trying to gain a little because.

[Brady Bogan]

Just.

[John Holmberg]

Just to put some muscle on so I can.

[Brady Bogan]

Your sweetie's kind of tired of seeing your bones.

[John Holmberg]

Everybody hates seeing, like, you. You're going through that now?

[Brady Bogan]

Yeah.

[John Holmberg]

Brooke doesn't like seeing your bones.

[Brady Bogan]

No. She felt my sternum one time, and she's like, what's that? And I said, it's my sternum.

[John Holmberg]

You have bones?

[Brady Bogan]

Yeah.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah. No, I just. All Those surgeries and stuff. It'd probably be smart to build around that a little.

[Brady Bogan]

Oh, okay. You put a little muscle.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah, put a little. Now that I'm able to do.

[Brady Bogan]

I do.

[John Holmberg]

Strange. I don't feel gaunt, but yeah. So I want to talk to you because you had your show, and I don't know if you guys focus on local topics.

[Brady Bogan]

Mostly we do, but we. We talk. Whatever. If there's something big.

[John Holmberg]

Let's talk. The hypocrisy of the Diana Taurasi retirement by sports radio. Oh.

[Brady Bogan]

Oh, okay.

[John Holmberg]

Because I watched the sports world in Arizona backflip themselves all over the place over Tarasi's retirement a couple days ago.

[Brady Bogan]

Okay.

[John Holmberg]

And I would, as a human being, challenge each and every one of those sportscasters or sports reporters to give me one relevant social moment that we all remember from the WNBA's 27 years.

[Brady Bogan]

Well, they. It's the only major championship moment, not history. That's a moment. Okay.

[John Holmberg]

Do you remember who they play?

[Brady Bogan]

The. The Mystics.

[John Holmberg]

Is that right? What year was that? You made that up. And you know what? I was with you. I was actually kind of like probably.

[Brady Bogan]

The only team I.

[John Holmberg]

So none of these guys. And my. My argument to this is nobody pays attention to it. But in order to act like you care when Taurasi retires. What a. What a great career. You can't. Like, I can sit and I can remember the starting lineup of the Cleveland Cavaliers in 1994, because the relevance of their series with the bulls. It's probably 89, 90.

[Brady Bogan]

Right.

[John Holmberg]

With Craig Elo and Larry Nance. And I mean, that team was. Was fun to watch. And they were in the Bulls way. They were the other Bulls, Reggie Miller. Reggie was on Indiana.

[Brady Bogan]

Oh, that's right. Yeah.

[John Holmberg]

So. But I mean, again, and you remember Michael Jordan shot over Craig Elo and. And that. And the despair and the whole thing just. Yeah, he. The whole emotion of it all. You remember was it Anderson for the Jazz when Jordan pushed off of him but got the shot off and wins the game? And you watch all of you. That iconic shot. Name one iconic, socially relevant WNBA moment in 27 years that this media can relate through their storytelling on the radio or anything else to the general public and have everybody go, oh, yeah, no.

[Brady Bogan]

Other than raising a banner.

[John Holmberg]

But you don't remember the games. You don't remember any w. So them.

[Brady Bogan]

I remember the suns losing in 76.

[John Holmberg]

We all remember the team. And you remember what happened. And by the way, the league for the. The. The NBA was 29 that year.

[Brady Bogan]

Right.

[John Holmberg]

So to say that the NBA, WNBA hasn't had a chance. The NBA, you remember George Mikan, Bill Russell, although they were in their infancy, the league started in 47.

[Brady Bogan]

Right.

[John Holmberg]

So the argument that Eddie Johnson gave me years ago was, well, they're 70 years behind, but they're at the same point the NBA was at with the NBA giving them a head start on what basketball is supposed to look like. They've done nothing. And I'm not saying that they can't, because I think Caitlin Clark is special and I think she can do something. But I see the local media acting as if this is like, wow, all she's done for sports in the Valley and all this. And it's like you can't name one. Does play.

[Dale Hellstray]

Does the NBA have a franchise? A team that has won the championship four times and then said.

[John Holmberg]

And then fold it up? Yeah, because that's how the WNBA started. Houston Comets won the first four championships and then went out of business.

[Brady Bogan]

Oh, did they really? No, I did. I did not even. I did not know that. I. You know what? I. I watched the Mercury when my daughters were playing high school basketball. We went through a couple games, but. But otherwise. Well, here. Here's what I'm going to ask you then. You're your bestest buddy and big toe wrote an eloquent thing on Facebook.

[John Holmberg]

Look, now I'll tell you this.

[Brady Bogan]

Are you gonna. Are you gonna call him out to his face?

[John Holmberg]

Oh, I tease him.

[Dale Hellstray]

He did.

[John Holmberg]

But I will not with Kevin Ray because he was there. He broadcasts a lot of those games.

[Brady Bogan]

Yeah.

[John Holmberg]

So Kevin, although and couldn't broadcast a real team yet, had to. Had to do this. Now also, I tease Kevin. I'm like, you wouldn't have gone to those games if they weren't paying you more than likely.

[Brady Bogan]

Yes.

[John Holmberg]

Right. And that's just me being a couple of the players.

[Dale Hellstray]

Right.

[John Holmberg]

Oh, he's good friends with dynamics, Diana. He's good friends with a lot of them and that's fine.

[Brady Bogan]

Didn't Diana whoop your tail one time?

[John Holmberg]

No, that was Michelle Timms and I beat her. Michelle.

[Brady Bogan]

She's Australian.

[John Holmberg]

That's right. She's not even American. Yeah, we don't like the migrants. Yeah, yeah, deport her ass. I'm with you.

[Brady Bogan]

No, yeah, I'm with you. On. She has a road named after her, correct?

[John Holmberg]

Yes.

[Brady Bogan]

Around the round the stadium.

[John Holmberg]

Second street. Diana Taurasi Way. Is it really down by the arena.

[Brady Bogan]

Is there a Phoenix sun who's had.

[John Holmberg]

Had a street near Arsdale? Van Arsdale. No, WALTER Angelo, Al McCoy, anybody.

[Dale Hellstray]

Miguel Knight.

[John Holmberg]

Miguel Knight would be equal to the Richard Dumas. The point I'm making is none of them.

[Brady Bogan]

How'd you pull that name out of your rear?

[John Holmberg]

Because Brett got a kick out of watching a guy with dumbass written on his jersey for a couple years. Hey. The point I'm making is that they. They are afraid to step in it. And not one of them says never watched her. They all acted like they've just been on pins and needles every time she takes the.

[Brady Bogan]

I do think that they. They really oversold it huge. I think all of them probably have seen her play at one point or another.

[John Holmberg]

You're in the sports world. I've seen her play.

[Brady Bogan]

Yeah.

[John Holmberg]

Can't remember no. Who they played or if she did anything special. And I'm not taking away what she's accomplished for that league. I'm just saying there's been 27 years that league needs. But we need to start being honest about it. If it was any, like, I can say Lamar Jackson's ugly and dumb all the time. And I'm 100% correct. His lowest wonderlic test in the league right now. And it's the ugliest face in football. There's nobody worse. Nobody's going to email me.

[Brady Bogan]

No.

[John Holmberg]

And say, I hate men.

[Brady Bogan]

But people will email you about Toronto.

[John Holmberg]

If you start to. Well, not anymore. Because they've just done with it. They know I'm not. They know I'm not caving.

[Dale Hellstray]

The fights.

[John Holmberg]

The fight is over and I'm standing with both hands in a Rocky statue. But my point being, is there. No. There are no women. Bill Burr's great point that I've been making years. But he did it succinctly. Said, they built a sport for you. The place should be packed with feminists. And it's not.

[Brady Bogan]

No.

[John Holmberg]

So it bothers me when the local media is like, God, well, you know. And they're all just shaking their heads. I can't believe it's all over. I can't. You didn't. You spent. It's when Michael Jackson died, and everybody's like, wasn't he just. What a wonderful. Like, hold on. We just spent the last 18 years of his life. Life. Calling him a ghoul and a creep and a freak, and he was a child. He died. And everybody's like, remember Thriller? I'm like, what are you doing? And at least we did. We. We had some social connection with Michael Jackson at two. Two levels, good and bad. But I mean, when O.J. died, we didn't start talking about 2,000 yards rushing in a season we all had in 12 games. That's insane.

[Dale Hellstray]

Amazing.

[John Holmberg]

Was it 14 or 12? I think it was 14. It was 74. Five. They still played 14. It was 14 because I think two years later, they went to 16. Either way, it's still better than what anybody else has done.

[Brady Bogan]

Right.

[John Holmberg]

But we don't talk about that because of the other thing.

[Brady Bogan]

What. What a.

[John Holmberg]

Well, that was the thing he did.

[Brady Bogan]

Oh, there you go.

[John Holmberg]

All right. I think he and Michael Irvin were doing something. I don't know. I don't know if I don't want to. I don't want to make accusations, but it was a French guy who opened a bakery, and it was a long story, but. Yeah, so I just. I always say that. It's just.

[Brady Bogan]

No, I.

[John Holmberg]

It's hypocrisy.

[Brady Bogan]

I think it was a little. A bit oversold. But you can argue the fact that.

[John Holmberg]

That.

[Brady Bogan]

That the Mercury is the only quote, unquote, major team that's won championships.

[John Holmberg]

Well, the Diamondbacks have one.

[Brady Bogan]

Yeah.

[John Holmberg]

You don't like that one?

[Brady Bogan]

I mean, I had a full head of hair and all my joints, so.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah, it was 2001, but. But also, we also kind of look at that, like, hey, that was neat. But they bought it, right? Because you. Because you can look at sports with men's sports with a critical eye and have it be a decent discussion the minute you start to critique that. And women's soccer, it's not being misogynistic. It's a bad product. Women's soccer, you have Brandi Chastain, Mia Hamm, these amazing moments, even though nobody likes her. Megan Rapinoe and the goals she scored and the iconic way she stood afterwards, we could hate her. But we all remember those moments, right? Got nothing with the WNBA now.

[Brady Bogan]

I. Well, what about Brittany's first drive drunk?

[John Holmberg]

Dale's hilarious. This is the type of stuff that you come in here. Debatable. This is why Prestige Billiards is sponsoring this segment. Stuff like that. Of course, we all remember First Stone. I'm just. And I'm not. Everybody says it's because you can't critique that league.

[Brady Bogan]

No, that.

[John Holmberg]

That without being misogynist. And it's not the thing.

[Brady Bogan]

And I will go to war on this. The fact that they want. Want to be paid more like NBA guys, but they don't want the criticism.

[John Holmberg]

Make a profit, you know, And.

[Brady Bogan]

And that. And that is the other thing. If you. If you can be a standalone league.

[John Holmberg]

Yep.

[Brady Bogan]

What happened to you?

[John Holmberg]

I Got some bruises. Go ahead.

[Brady Bogan]

He's distracted.

[John Holmberg]

Megan Wolf, my man versus. Now that. And you should see her.

[Brady Bogan]

No, But. But again, the. It. It's a league owned by the men.

[John Holmberg]

They subsidize it.

[Brady Bogan]

Yes.

[John Holmberg]

It's the least feminist thing that you can ask for. Feminism.

[Brady Bogan]

But now, I hope here in the next five years, hopefully Caitlin Clark can. Can be the Magic Johnson, Larry Bird. Because NBA, you know, the NBA back.

[John Holmberg]

In the day, it went through a struggle. It was huge. Then it died in the 70s. And magic and Larry Bird. I think Angel Reese and Caitlin Clark have a chance to make this interesting.

[Brady Bogan]

Yeah. Yes.

[John Holmberg]

But it took 30 years.

[Brady Bogan]

Oh, I'm not. I can't. I can't argue that point.

[John Holmberg]

It took 30 years for us to kind of go, maybe this isn't terrible.

[Brady Bogan]

People don't realize because you're not as old as I am. But the Finals used to be. NBA Finals and Sevens used to be on tape delay at midnight, you know?

[John Holmberg]

Yeah.

[Brady Bogan]

It'd be like, what. And Charles Barkley, who. Whether you like him, you don't like him. I've heard him say, the two most important basketball players in the history of basketball are Larry and. And Magic.

[John Holmberg]

Magic. Without question.

[Brady Bogan]

Because they. They. They brought two guys.

[John Holmberg]

Yep.

[Brady Bogan]

Two guys brought back the NBA same time. Yes.

[John Holmberg]

And happened to have. And it's ironic that the. The similarities between Caitlyn and Angel Reese.

[Brady Bogan]

Yeah.

[John Holmberg]

Are as. That they. They came out the same time. They played in meaningful college games that people actually watched. So. Yeah.

[Brady Bogan]

No, I got a black and white.

[John Holmberg]

Yep. Yeah.

[Brady Bogan]

It's. Obviously, it'll never get as big as the NBA, but I hope that they can stand. Stand by themselves.

[John Holmberg]

I don't care if they can or not. But that's the point is that you're not allowed to say, I don't care if it folds, but you suddenly hate all women.

[Brady Bogan]

You can.

[John Holmberg]

I do. All the time.

[Brady Bogan]

You're John Holmberg.

[John Holmberg]

Well, I remember I. Well, the first time I started this where I'm like, this league's a joke. The Suns made me talk to Eddie Johnson on the air. And then Eddie had to do it. I'm like, eddie, you're only doing this because, like some reason they're paying, he goes. And he just, you know, they just. You gotta give him a break. And I'm like, I'm not giving anybody.

[Brady Bogan]

Right.

[John Holmberg]

Why would I have to give them a break when I don't give socks?

[Brady Bogan]

The Suns made you.

[John Holmberg]

They gave us tickets to a game, and then Eddie called back the next day to ask what we thought. And I said, it still sucks. And then he's, and then he's kind of like, look, I know, I don't know why I have to try to talk you into this. The whole point of it was. And that was when my eyes opened to go, they're not going to allow the media, media to be fair to them without throwing out the, you know, the false flag.

[Brady Bogan]

Right.

[John Holmberg]

And the, you know, the giant. You know, you're a racist. You're. I'm like, wait a second. I, I don't have to like this.

[Brady Bogan]

I'm just judging what I'm seeing with my eyes.

[Dale Hellstray]

I don't like the product sold initially that this is a similar product to.

[John Holmberg]

The NBA and I don't like it anyway. But mine's more, less about the game and more about the way the media handle it. It was a fear based media. Sports media acting as if they've paid attention. I have never seen a highlight on local news of a WNBA game. I don't think I've ever watched them go, man, the murky. Watch this.

[Brady Bogan]

Some of their championships, they did. I, I mean, I remember seeing a.

[John Holmberg]

Couple of them, but maybe I turned it.

[Brady Bogan]

Let's turn the page. Yeah, she retired. She had a great career. We'll move on. Let's go back to ignoring what else you'll do. I want to know what else you'll do to get something in your life.

[John Holmberg]

What will I swallow to be a.

[Brady Bogan]

Billionaire you put in your mouth. Hold on. It's.

[John Holmberg]

It.

[Brady Bogan]

Is it more important to you that the Ravens don't win one or the Steelers win one?

[John Holmberg]

I've come to grips with that over the last few years. Is that my joy in sports is, is greater watching the Ravens lose than because I've seen Steelers championships. I've been very happy to see plenty of those.

[Dale Hellstray]

He's extra happy today, too, because Justin.

[John Holmberg]

Tucker, Justin Tucker's wife went out on a limb and said, I trust him, I love him. All these allegations are false. I'm like, oh, this is bad. Like, she should have just shut up. But yeah. So, yes, I have seen enough championships to know that when a championship is over, as a fan, it's fleeting. It's. It's kind of like, oh, that's.

[Brady Bogan]

And I argue with people because they'll go, oh, you, you sell your soul. You win a championship. That'll be great for a decade. No, won't. It might be good for one year.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah, it feels good for you. I'm sure as a player, you're like, God, it's all just still like, it gets you every once in a while, especially initially when you win the super bowl. As a fan, right? And you're there, there's this euphoria because you're forcing yourself to be part of the party. And then you're kind of like, next day, I got to get back to this life of mine. And it's sort of like, yeah, champion, you feel good and you kind of wear the gear.

[Brady Bogan]

And if two years later, you guys are, you know, six and, well, whatever they're playing six, 11 now, doesn't matter. You're going, well, screw that.

[John Holmberg]

And you can't live in the past. I gave my chief, my chief's buddy who always says, you're always living in the past, but Steele's always living the past. I'm like, lose one, lose one, and then tell me we've won recently. I'm like, still the past, brother. You're not the champs now. And it's just that weird. Kind of like it feels great, but then it's. You just ride high for a minute. When the Ravens lose, I'm still happy over that playoff loss. I'm still feeling great that I know Lamar Jackson looks in the mirror and goes, I'm still not a champion. I look so sleepy. Ugliest, dumbest guy in football has to stare himself in those giant, too far apart eyes and say, wow, I have no rings. I am a. I am a 55 year old fat woman. My hand is ringless.

[Brady Bogan]

Wow, Brady.

[John Holmberg]

Brutal.

[Brady Bogan]

Yeah, it's brutal.

[John Holmberg]

Look at the joy breach.

[Brady Bogan]

I mean, you really, you go, you're. It's euphoric for you.

[John Holmberg]

It's drugs.

[Brady Bogan]

And I can tell you when, when you win a Super bowl, it lasts a little bit longer as a player.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah.

[Brady Bogan]

But you realize shortly, I got to.

[John Holmberg]

Get back and guess what?

[Brady Bogan]

There's gonna be a bullseye on us.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah. Which is why I think guys like Ray Lewis painful and Jerome Bettis being able to say, this is it. I'm going out with a Super bowl has to feel amazing.

[Brady Bogan]

Yes. Yes.

[John Holmberg]

That has to feel like my career ended and I don't ever have to worry about this again.

[Brady Bogan]

Right.

[John Holmberg]

And I came out of this thing on top. That has to be the best it went.

[Brady Bogan]

It went from us winning our first super bowl to coming back to training camp the next year and took like three days of practice before Jimmy called us all up. But he said, you know what the rest of the league wants to do with these big old super bowl rings? Shove right up your rear head. It's like, well, maybe I don't want this.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah, give it back. Maybe the Giants were better than us. Yeah, it's a, it's crazy because I think, I think people feel like there's just more joy in winning, but I think we all kind of like the losing more.

[Brady Bogan]

Are we going to just completely bypass your beloved Phoenix Suns? Yeah.

[John Holmberg]

Everybody else is. Why you can't defend them because they don't play defense.

[Brady Bogan]

See, you brought up something interesting because I also want to touch on your, your, your best buddy in big toe, Michael Bidwell and the, and the Cardinals.

[John Holmberg]

That's pretty. I was going to get to that, too.

[Brady Bogan]

But the Suns, they, they've literally already increased.

[John Holmberg]

Season ticket prices for next year are going up. Are up. The renewals are in March and the number is high.

[Brady Bogan]

And I'm sitting here going, well, does that make any sense? I'll sell $2 hot dogs to the general population that come to see the games at the suns.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah, the $2 hot dogs was like a big, like people. It was a to do. But it's the upper decker.

[Brady Bogan]

Yeah, it's unwashed.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah, it's the unwashed.

[Brady Bogan]

They're not down the Rah Rah room.

[John Holmberg]

Well, I had that email from that guy that said, I saw you at the top of the escalators at the thing and you were rude to me. I'm like, first off, no way. That was me because I've never been to the top of the escalators at the Sun's kid. That's second. That's the second level. So. No, you did not. Some other bald guy treated you poorly.

[Brady Bogan]

You start getting a little bloody nose.

[John Holmberg]

I know. I told him. I'm like, I wasn't. If it was me, I'd have been nice to you. Even though you're wildly poor or whatever. I don't know what's going on, why you're up there in the first place, but I'm nice.

[Brady Bogan]

Yeah. Sitting upper deck of the Sus game. You don't got to take a shower before you go.

[John Holmberg]

No good. No. In order to blend in, you would actually smell funny to the rest of them if you came in smelling like.

[Brett Vesley]

So let me check those tickets. I don't, I think you're in the wrong section.

[John Holmberg]

This kid smells like mint and cucumbers. Queer. Then they start fighting you.

[Brady Bogan]

But they, but they have not lowered the prices.

[John Holmberg]

I don't know. The robber room renewal is later. I don't know. But I, I, you know, I, I enjoy the Rah Rah.

[Brady Bogan]

Is There a price you wouldn't pay to go to the rah.

[John Holmberg]

Oh, yeah. Anymore. Yeah, I've hit my mark on that. It's worth it. It may peter out. I may not go. I don't know. We'll see. But the Sun's tickets are. Me and my good friend Kevin Ray are going to talk tonight about package deal. Get something, something. Check out H's Morning Sickness podcast at 98kupd.com homework, morning sickness, and maybe Diana Taurosi will be in on that. We'll get four seats together. Yeah, it wouldn't be bad, but. Yeah, I just, I. You know, it's tough because you want to be a fair fan and realize there's going to be tough times, but if I'm sitting here with better GM moves than what they're making, and Devin Booker has to go for this team to have a future, like you just said, if they don't make the playoffs, everybody's like, oh, they'll get a good draft pick. No, they won't.

[Brady Bogan]

They won't.

[John Holmberg]

You know who will? Houston or Brooklyn?

[Brady Bogan]

I don't know which one it goes to, but I know not the Sun.

[John Holmberg]

And, you know that little bouncing ball is going to come out in the top three. Phoenix. Phoenix will get a top three pick and it'll be, you know, via trade.

[Brady Bogan]

Houston Cooper, flag from Duke, and he's.

[John Holmberg]

Going to go over there and they're going to hang on to Booker because we're emotionally tied to him for some reason. It doesn't mean championships. It means you've got a good friend on the team.

[Brady Bogan]

I don't. And I don't understand that move. It's, It's. It's got. Do you really think this team's going to make the playoffs?

[John Holmberg]

Not with the schedule they've got.

[Brady Bogan]

No. They've got a brutal schedule, and they find ways to lose. They. They don't play defense. They don't.

[John Holmberg]

They're not good.

[Brady Bogan]

They don't rebound. They don't do the. The things that you need to do to be a good basketball team. And whenever they play these young teams, oh, it looks like they're stuck in.

[John Holmberg]

They are. They're a mess. And you watch that game with Memphis the other night. The end. The. The plays drawn up for the end was just childlike. They were terrible plays, and it was just. Just bad coaching, bad defense, bad play. But they're scoring. And you get three guys like Beal and Booker and Durant who are doing everything right. The rest of the team's terrible.

[Brady Bogan]

First of All I push back on you. I don't think they're doing everything right.

[John Holmberg]

Well, not defense. They're scoring. The three of them can put up points. I mean, you got a guy putting up 28, another guy putting up 26 most of the time. Rest of the team will balance that out.

[Brady Bogan]

But if you're, if you're scoring 28 and you're giving up 24, but what really is the, the doesn't matter.

[John Holmberg]

You're actually right. Your plus minus is actually minus and you're still scoring 30. Yeah, it doesn't matter. Yeah. And then the Cardinals. The other thing I'd heard of this a couple years ago because the Steelers had something about it where they had criticized your own team ranks, ownership. Correct.

[Brady Bogan]

They have five different categories.

[John Holmberg]

Okay. Have you, have you done this before?

[Brady Bogan]

They didn't do, they didn't give a damn about us.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah, you guys just showed up and got your checks. So what they do is they, they, they have categorical rank for each player to assess their own team.

[Brady Bogan]

It's an anonymous poll. You do you, you rank the coach, owner, food, travel, weight room and treatment of family.

[John Holmberg]

Okay.

[Brady Bogan]

All right.

[John Holmberg]

Wow.

[Brady Bogan]

And number one in the whole league. I'll give you the top five. Miami, Minnesota, Atlanta, Las Vegas and the Chargers.

[John Holmberg]

And everybody there is happy with the way the team treats them, the coaching.

[Brady Bogan]

A lot of age A's and all those categories. And again, Atlanta is not a team that win is winning. No. Miami's not a team that's winning.

[John Holmberg]

No.

[Brady Bogan]

And then the bottom five, let's see.

[John Holmberg]

Here, Pittsburgh, Pittsburgh always ranks badly on this. I think it's because the stadium's old.

[Brady Bogan]

Well, they, they ranked the owner, the owner a D. He's not good.

[John Holmberg]

He's got the name. He doesn't have the skill.

[Brady Bogan]

C minus, treatment of family, C plus, the weight room, things like that. And then you got New York Jets, Cleveland, New England, and the very last team, your own is Arizona, the Arizona Cardinals.

[John Holmberg]

And a knee jerk reaction to that was an immediate $100 million investment in the practice facility the day it comes out.

[Brady Bogan]

So they released that yesterday. And again they said, well, the players knew last year, year that we're, we're putting money into it.

[John Holmberg]

Right.

[Brady Bogan]

And my, my DOBSON Cohort, Steve McCollum, yeah. Said, well, Minnesota put $250 million. He went, went and checked the other practice facilities. So you can look at it. Glass half full, glass half empty. Yeah, 100 million is going to make things better. But again, the, the only thing that actually, that the Cardinals ranked decent was coaching and they gave him, they gave him an A plus.

[John Holmberg]

I think their coaches are great.

[Brady Bogan]

Yeah. Yeah.

[John Holmberg]

I think their GM and their coach are awesome. They've got winners there.

[Brady Bogan]

But then, but then everything else is a D minus. D minus. Wow. The travel is a B.

[John Holmberg]

They get a nice plane.

[Brady Bogan]

The weight room was an F. And weight rooms are. Tend to be fairly important to a football kind of. Sure.

[John Holmberg]

So 100 million bucks is going to go into that Tempe facility. They're not going to build the new. No, because The Sun's. That 5G thing they've got is over 100 million.

[Brady Bogan]

Yes.

[John Holmberg]

Wait, over.

[Brady Bogan]

Well, and that's the thing. That's what I said. Well, if they're just going to up. Upgrade the Tempe facility, maybe that doesn't need $200 million.

[John Holmberg]

Right.

[Brady Bogan]

I don't know.

[John Holmberg]

It's probably worth about 60, so, but.

[Brady Bogan]

But here's the other thing about it. I, I, I, I, I told this story on our show. The fact that when I was a free agent, I was a free agent one time and I visited the Raiders. I visited the Colts, the Falcons, Houston and Arizona. They, they all were making contract offers. And I've always, I was gonna say giggle, but not in this group. I laugh, Giggled like a little guy. Giggle a little bit.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah.

[Brady Bogan]

Gargle that people think that players care about, like, well, where's my, where's my wife and kids gonna sit for the game? You know, it's like, it's Sun Devil Stadium back when I played.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah.

[Brady Bogan]

You know, obviously the, the, the, the seat seating and all that was not very good.

[John Holmberg]

No.

[Brady Bogan]

But if they offered $250,000 more to play here than somewhere else.

[John Holmberg]

Right. Get your own good se.

[Brady Bogan]

Get a cushion.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah, you can afford it now.

[Brady Bogan]

Get, get a cushion. So sometimes that's overblown, but when it's clear across the board that your facilities.

[John Holmberg]

Suck, There's a trend.

[Brady Bogan]

Yes.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah, no, that's true. And, but, but I, I do, I do like that they announced it the day that this news comes out. And it seemed like, yeah, all right, fine.

[Brady Bogan]

Yeah.

[John Holmberg]

But if, like my, my question was, if it had come out that they're like, oh, it's better than we thought. Let's not spend that. Yeah.

[Brady Bogan]

How about 50 million?

[John Holmberg]

Yeah. If it's c, if it's a bunch of Cs, we'll throw 20 million at this and get them some new. We'll get them, we'll get them a bow Flex.

[Brady Bogan]

Yeah.

[Dale Hellstray]

So is that what the. I mean, you know, on the one category, treatment of the family.

[Brady Bogan]

Yeah.

[Dale Hellstray]

Is that what it is mostly? The tickets where they're located, or is it.

[Brady Bogan]

A lot of. It's seating. But the other thing is, like, as I went through our cow. My cowboy career there for 11 years went from doing nothing.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah.

[Brady Bogan]

To then having a room for kids.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah.

[Brady Bogan]

At the game to. Because my wife would bring our daughters one game a year.

[Dale Hellstray]

She wasn't like a daycare setup.

[Brady Bogan]

Yeah. A daycare set up. And then. And then probably mid-90s, we got a room for us because the coaches had a room for us after the game. Let the traffic get out of their food, drinks, all that. Then they set one up for the players.

[John Holmberg]

At Old Texas State.

[Brady Bogan]

Yeah. At Old Texas State. So it got a little bit better.

[John Holmberg]

Right.

[Brady Bogan]

As time went along, but that's when you're talking about treating the families right. And again, now some of these guys can. They'll include a suite in their contract. Just crazy.

[John Holmberg]

Start getting all that extra.

[Brady Bogan]

Yeah.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah. It's interesting because I remember Eric Hill told me when I used to do the Cardinals pregame, when he said, the Cardinals facilities are the worst in the business. That was before they had tempo. And he said, our locker rooms are the worst. And he goes. And he said something because I was complaining that the Cardinals weren't paying me. They said they were and they weren't. So I'm like, are you guys getting checks for this or what's going on? He goes, good luck with that. And I'm like, really? And then Eric and I started to talk. He said, when he was a free agent, the Rams took him in and he said, bring your family with us. Like, why? He's like, just bring your kid. Bring everybody with facilities. Everybody's going to be part of this. Get there. And each kid got a jersey with his name on it. They got these. These Ram swag bags, Dick for meals, there himself talking to everybody. And he goes, keep in mind, I'm at the end of career here. It's not like they're getting, like, the number one draft pick that I was. And he said, I go in there and they treat. He said, I'm crying, he said, because the Cardinals made me buy shoes.

[Brady Bogan]

Well, that's what I was going to say. So in Dallas, the one thing on Tuesdays is our day off. And if I wasn't golfing or something, I'll go get a little workout and I'll bring the dog. My. My daughters, they're, you know, 8 and 5, 7 or 4. Bring them with me. They never Left that facility without wristband stuff, shirts, whatever. And that's what I heard about the Cardinals. The fact that you got. Whatever, two T shirts.

[John Holmberg]

That's it.

[Brady Bogan]

A pair of shoes, two pairs of socks, two jocks. And if those gave out.

[John Holmberg]

Yep.

[Brady Bogan]

You had to buy. You had to buy them.

[John Holmberg]

Well, I've told you that before, that Eric Hill told me that when a guy's shoes were blown out in practice and he's taping them up, he's like, get some new shoes. They make me buy them.

[Brady Bogan]

Yeah.

[John Holmberg]

I might even make the team.

[Brady Bogan]

Right.

[John Holmberg]

And so Eric went to Reebok and said, I got a deal. I want to get some shoes for some of these guys. And the Cardinals said, no, no.

[Brady Bogan]

Oh.

[John Holmberg]

He stopped it and said, these guys have to buy their own shoes. You can't do that. You got a shoe contract for you, not them.

[Brady Bogan]

Okay.

[John Holmberg]

And so he would have to do it on the sly and get these guys some side shoes. And that was back. And I don't think Michael Bidwell does that anymore. But. No, the old man did.

[Brady Bogan]

Yeah, the old man did. And, like, in the Cowboys facility, they had the soda machines, Gatorade, pop, whatever, and the girls got to just go up, and you hit the button and it opened up, and here it comes. They thought that was the. The greatest thing you bring up. Eric Hill. It's. It's interesting because Eric Hill's really the only guy I ever got into a scuffle with.

[John Holmberg]

Really?

[Brady Bogan]

In that.

[John Holmberg]

The nicest guy I've ever worked with.

[Brady Bogan]

Oh, yeah. I met him after our career, and. And we really like each other.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah, he's a good dude, but I.

[Brady Bogan]

Forget what he did. There are two guys. I never talked on the field. Right. I thought you were wasting energy, and it's stupid. One was Matt Miller. When I was with Buffalo, we're playing the Raiders, and. And I'm blocking him, and I got a pretty good block on him. And then, you know, the whistle sounds, and I kind of gave him maybe one more half step.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah. Give him a little extra. Yeah.

[Brady Bogan]

And he steps back and pushes me. Hey, when I stop, you stop. And I look at him, I go, how the hell do I know when you're gonna stop? We start going at each other, you start fighting. Yeah. We didn't swing or anything.

[John Holmberg]

Just that face mask. Right.

[Brady Bogan]

Right there in each other's. But Eric Hill. I was covering a punt, and he was on the punt return team, and he tried to take a little cheap shot on me, and. No, I was up high.

[John Holmberg]

Oh, okay.

[Brady Bogan]

And I I got it in his face mask a little bit.

[John Holmberg]

Really?

[Brady Bogan]

And again, I just always. If I got my hand in your face mask, I'm trying to rip your neck off.

[John Holmberg]

Oh, that's nice.

[Brady Bogan]

You know, and. And so they always do. It was more pushing and shoving.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah.

[Brady Bogan]

And work words, you know, terrible words. Not, Not. Hey, do you like John Holmberg? Yeah.

[John Holmberg]

And he would have said yes. I remember him.

[Brady Bogan]

Yeah.

[John Holmberg]

That was 20 years ago. I don't think I remember.

[Brady Bogan]

Probably the dirtiest thing I ever did on the football field. Guy named Ray Childress. And this is when we were in college. He went to Texas A and M. Third overall pick in the first round. He really good player.

[Dale Hellstray]

Played at Houston.

[Brady Bogan]

Yeah, he played at Houston. And I. I could hate a guy just from looking at his meeting guy picture. And I'd start it on Wednesday and I'd have. I'd get a picture of the guy I'm playing against.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah.

[Brady Bogan]

And I look at that arrogant, cocky sob. I mean, he's got this long.

[John Holmberg]

Hated him.

[Brady Bogan]

He's walking around like he's the cat's meow. I. I'm gonna break his long neck and whatever. And it just so happened against Ray Children one time. I think I was a junior. We're at the bottom of a pile and my hand was. Was kind of caught in his face mask. I don't know how I got caught in the face mask, but it's in the face.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah, I know.

[Brady Bogan]

And I, I literally took and yanked and pushed and you're wrenching the guy's neck, Dale.

[John Holmberg]

That's illegal.

[Brady Bogan]

He jumps out of the pile, his face, Dale. And he throws a punch at me.

[John Holmberg]

But he can't see me.

[Brady Bogan]

And he gets a 15 yard penalty. It worked.

[John Holmberg]

I should have done that more often. You'd have been starting. Dale Hellistray is here. He's with prestigebilliardsaz.com if you want to go there. They bring you the Dale Hell stray segment whether you like it or not. Prestige billiards az three locations. Use Meathead 98 and get yourself some discount right there. We're gonna do the entertainment drill. Dale and Brady will entertain you next. It's 98.

[Dick Toledo]

It's not weird.

[Brady Bogan]

It's pretty cool, actually.

[John Holmberg]

No membership fees. I have heard enough of this morning sickness. The old method of treatment for a.

[Brady Bogan]

Person in this condition was to throw him in jail.

[John Holmberg]

Dale, you got us through another day.

[Brady Bogan]

I did. Do you guys look forward to having me in here?

[Brett Vesley]

Bert, of course.

[Brady Bogan]

Okay.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah.

[Brady Bogan]

You always look excited when I walk forward.

[Brett Vesley]

Do you look forward to this.

[John Holmberg]

Like on Tuesday.

[Brady Bogan]

Yeah. You're thinking, yeah.

[John Holmberg]

I wake up Monday morning, go, oh.

[Brett Vesley]

This week, four days to.

[Brady Bogan]

Do you know that when I'm here, that means you got one day left.

[John Holmberg]

That's true. You trying to represent the end?

[Brady Bogan]

Yes. In more ways than one.

[John Holmberg]

So true.

[Brady Bogan]

Yeah. John, this is what you guys look forward to over the next 10 years.

[John Holmberg]

This one says Dale. Hello. Strange. If I buy an entire store out of that billiards place, can we let Dale go? William's mad at you.

[Brady Bogan]

Why?

[John Holmberg]

Cowboy? Why are you talking to cowboys? You know, he's got the same vibe I got for the Ravens.

[Brady Bogan]

Okay.

[John Holmberg]

It be like, you know, jealousy. Yeah. Not jealous.

[Brady Bogan]

Yeah.

[John Holmberg]

I'm not jealous of the Ravens.

[Brady Bogan]

Jealous of the Ravens.

[John Holmberg]

Not jealous of the Ravens.

[Brady Bogan]

They've been around what, a third of the time? The Steelers and they got two. Two championships. Probably get a third.

[John Holmberg]

They haven't been around a third of the time.

[Brady Bogan]

Well, probably be.

[John Holmberg]

They've been around for a long time.

[Brady Bogan]

20 years.

[John Holmberg]

They're the Cleveland Browns.

[Brady Bogan]

No, they're not. Cleveland got to keep all their records.

[John Holmberg]

Cleveland Browns stayed the Cleveland Browns. But there's the G. Yeah, they are the Cleveland Browns. Cleveland what? This thing that the Cleveland Browns have is some sort of weird, like. Like AI version of what the. That's not the real Cleveland Browns. The real Cleveland Browns are in Baltimore.

[Brady Bogan]

Hey, can I tell. Can I tell Brady something? Give him some fashion advice.

[John Holmberg]

Yes.

[Brady Bogan]

The red is not your color.

[John Holmberg]

You don't like him in red.

[Brady Bogan]

No. But you should probably get the gray.

[Dale Hellstray]

That's my. That's my championship one.

[John Holmberg]

Is gray okay? Yeah.

[Brady Bogan]

Because that. That red makes you look like a pimple is going to pop.

[John Holmberg]

You look like a tick. I know. I think the red looks fine.

[Brady Bogan]

Wow.

[Dale Hellstray]

I'd rather hear some death.

[Brett Vesley]

Really?

[John Holmberg]

Okay.

[Dale Hellstray]

You were. You were lying.

[John Holmberg]

I think the red looks fine on you. I don't think red is a good color for you. It blends in with the hypertension.

[Dale Hellstray]

I don't wear it too often knowing that.

[Brady Bogan]

Yeah.

[John Holmberg]

That you're too red. Naturally. Yeah. Yeah.

[Brady Bogan]

Is it a little chilly out in Gilbert this morning?

[Dale Hellstray]

Yeah.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah.

[Dale Hellstray]

It's a lot cooler in Gilbert.

[John Holmberg]

It'll be warm today. He'll get. He'll shed that.

[Brady Bogan]

It'll be 90 degrees today.

[John Holmberg]

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[Dale Hellstray]

The Oscars are Sunday and they just released some additional presenters. Harrison Ford. Dave Bautista. Andrew Garfield. Rachel Zegler.

[Brady Bogan]

Who's Andrew Garfield?

[John Holmberg]

Garfield, he was a spider man. Spider man.

[Brady Bogan]

Oh, I thought that was that cartoon Garfield.

[John Holmberg]

No. Yeah, Garfield the cat will be presenting an Oscar.

[Dale Hellstray]

Gal Gadot.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah, she's back. She's very, very pretty. How about Batista? Batista getting in on the Oscars. He was in the show once. Yeah, I know. Because everybody's done a Marvel movie. That's true.

[Dale Hellstray]

Vice.com says this is the Mount Rushmore of grunge music. Isaac, who would it be? So in the order so they said Cobain will be George Washington.

[John Holmberg]

Okay. Oh, I don't know which one's what. Cornell, Definitely up there.

[Dale Hellstray]

Soundgarden would be Thomas Jefferson.

[John Holmberg]

All right. Pearl Jam.

[Dale Hellstray]

Pearl Jam. Teddy Roosevelt.

[John Holmberg]

Stone Temple Pilots.

[Dale Hellstray]

Allison Chains.

[John Holmberg]

Allison Chains. Okay.

[Dale Hellstray]

Abraham Lincoln.

[John Holmberg]

I always think Allison change is sort of like a second level. Even though I love them, I never put them in that. But they are. Are. They're actually, they were before all those guys. Facelift came out. Before all that stuff.

[Dale Hellstray]

Dale's got some music news.

[John Holmberg]

Where is it? Oh, go ahead, Dale.

[Dale Hellstray]

Well, he's a big fan.

[Brady Bogan]

How come he never smiles when he comes in?

[John Holmberg]

Because you're here. All right.

[Brady Bogan]

Why isn't he like me? Why don't you like me? I've been jerking a guy out.

[John Holmberg]

What'd you say?

[Brady Bogan]

I've been jerking A guy out. Really? Really? That's what you've been doing the last time? I've been jerking a guy out.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah. Yeah. Holy cow, dude. No idea.

[Dale Hellstray]

Clear.

[Brady Bogan]

I've been jerking a guy out.

[John Holmberg]

I can't get much clearer than that. I hope your daughters are listening.

[Brady Bogan]

I've been jerking a guy out. Thanks, knucklehead.

[John Holmberg]

That's true. He could have done it anyway.

[Brady Bogan]

Shaboozi has the longest number one one streak for solo country artist since 1958.

[John Holmberg]

Wow.

[Brady Bogan]

It's a bar song called Tipsy. Yeah, they're breaking more records. Song has now spent 35 weeks at number one. This breaks a tie with Sam Hunt's song Body Like a Back Road.

[John Holmberg]

You don't remember that?

[Brady Bogan]

I do, but I didn't realize it got number one. Yeah, that was for 34 weeks back in 2017. Shibuzi now is the longest number one stream streak since 1958. But he has a long way to go if he wants the all time record.

[John Holmberg]

What hillbilly song is number one for the longest?

[Brady Bogan]

Well, which do you think holds the all time record, Johnny, of the best music genre that they're. I mean, you know, the Boxcar Greens or whatever.

[John Holmberg]

Give me a. Give me a time frame.

[Brady Bogan]

2017 and 18.

[John Holmberg]

That's when it. That's when the record was.

[Brady Bogan]

Yes.

[John Holmberg]

So it's probably one of those dumb hillbillies. That's new.

[Brett Vesley]

Morgan Wallen.

[John Holmberg]

Morgan Wallen would be a guard for.

[Brady Bogan]

Florida Georgia Line and BB Rex.

[John Holmberg]

BB Rexa. So they needed some pop influence in that to make it good.

[Brady Bogan]

It says so their song was meant to be. Went for 50 weeks.

[John Holmberg]

Don't you want to just punch the dumb out of Big and Rich?

[Brady Bogan]

Why?

[John Holmberg]

Oh, just the hat and the stupid ass.

[Brady Bogan]

Well, tell me, are you going to watch this, this nonsense on Sunday night?

[John Holmberg]

I'll peer into it. I'll take a look. I haven't seen any.

[Dale Hellstray]

Curiosity.

[John Holmberg]

Curiosity. What's going on?

[Brady Bogan]

And to listen to all their bs.

[Dale Hellstray]

I don't think you want to hear it.

[John Holmberg]

That's why I'll watch. I'll see if they're. If they've learned. If they've learned their lesson.

[Brady Bogan]

No.

[Dale Hellstray]

Well, if it's anything like the Golden Globes.

[John Holmberg]

Well, the sags were different. They got political in that. So I'm curious. I'm curious to see if they go. If they've learned.

[Dale Hellstray]

True. There's, you know, enough days have passed now. Now you can start jumping on some stuff. Stuff.

[Brady Bogan]

198 million views on YouTube. Johnny. Of what I've Been jerking a guy out.

[John Holmberg]

Oh, wow.

[Brady Bogan]

You got a lot of views.

[Dale Hellstray]

A lot of views.

[John Holmberg]

That is a hell of a lot of views for that deal.

[Brady Bogan]

Good for you. Wow.

[John Holmberg]

You're an Internet sensation. Wow. You look at Rich. You better start running now.

[Brady Bogan]

I've been jerking the guy up or.

[John Holmberg]

He'Ll come at you, so to speak. That's it. Tonight you go to Eos. Yes. You're heading over to Eos. Where is it?

[Brett Vesley]

Guadalupe and Rural, basically.

[John Holmberg]

Okay. Guadalupe and Rural. And you'll be there from 5 to 7 o'clock.

[Brady Bogan]

You wear a tank top in there. I mean, you get a little workout in.

[John Holmberg]

Oh yeah, he's got a sweat. He's going to have his sweatsuit on.

[Brady Bogan]

He's going to pull.

[Brett Vesley]

I always wear that. That's, you know, that's just everyday wear.

[John Holmberg]

Work out my workout clothes. He'll be over at EOS today, 5 to 7 o'clock. Signing up. Giving you KPD stuff all day long. Join Bert over in his neck of the woods in Mesa. That's easy enough. Dale's going nowhere and I mean fast. What are you doing this weekend?

[Brady Bogan]

I've been jerking a guy out.

[John Holmberg]

Okay? And Brady's got nothing going on either. That's it. We're done. Tomorrow's Friday and we're all on it here. Thanks, Dale. Thanks to everybody else too. We'll see you tomorrow. Solo.

[Dick Toledo]

It's not weird.

[Brady Bogan]

It's pretty cool, actually.

[Dale Hellstray]

No membership fee.

[John Holmberg]

I have heard enough of this.