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Episode: 03-04-25 - Kato Kaelin - In Studio - Part One
Release Date: March 4, 2025
Host: John Holmberg
Guest: Kato Kaelin
Platform: 98 KUPD | Hubbard Radio

Introduction to Kato Kaelin

[00:35] John Holmberg:
John Holmberg introduces Kato Kaelin, highlighting his fascination with Kato's life and experiences. He remarks, "Your podcast is exactly what I want to do," setting a tone of admiration and curiosity.

[00:35] Kato Kaelin:
Expresses his excitement to be on the show, saying, "I'm so glad to be here."

[01:08] John Holmberg:
Commences the conversation with enthusiasm, signaling the start of an in-depth discussion.

Kato's Early Encounters and the Playboy Mansion

[02:00] Kato Kaelin:
Shares stories from his past, including his interactions at the Playboy Mansion. He reminisces, "I used to go to the mansion. I always went there with... I brought fudge. I know. Sandwich to the buffet."

[03:10] John Holmberg:
Reacting to Kato's stories, Holmberg humorously suggests, "You need to leave," indicating the intriguing and perhaps controversial nature of Kato's experiences.

[04:08] Kato Kaelin:
Discusses his relationship with celebrities like Robert Blake and Phil Spector, stating, "I knew Robert Blake and I knew Phil Spector. I am. I'm telling you, the stuff is. It's amazing. Crazy people love me."

Kato's Fame and Public Perception

[06:09] Kato Kaelin:
Reflects on his fame, acknowledging the circumstances that led to his public recognition. He notes, "I'm famous for the most horrendous reason, and it's by no fault of my own."

[07:05] John Holmberg:
Clarifies the distinction between Kato and the events that tether him to his fame, emphasizing, "You had nothing to do with the horrendous reason. You just were nearby."

Inside the O.J. Simpson Trial

[08:22] John Holmberg:
Inquires about the details Kato might want to skip, probing for sensitive topics within the trial context.

[09:16] Kato Kaelin:
Opens up about public inquiries, "People say, did he do it?...if you were on the jury, would you have found him not guilty?"

[09:32] Kato Kaelin:
Expresses his own jury perspective, "No, I would have said guilty," indicating his personal stance despite the trial's outcome.

[10:15] John Holmberg:
Shares his conflicting feelings while watching documentaries, "I know in my heart this happened, but I think I would have said not guilty," highlighting the complexity of the case.

Personal Interactions with O.J. Simpson

[10:21] Kato Kaelin:
Describes how he met O.J. Simpson through his casting business, detailing interactions that seemed benign at the time.

[15:05] Kato Kaelin:
Narrates an encounter at McDonald's with O.J., encapsulating the tension of that moment. "We drive back to the house, and he's got the other one," he recounts.

[17:36] Kato Kaelin:
Reveals his intuition about the situation, "He didn't want me... because I think I screwed up... Probably his timeline, the earlier plan."

[19:39] Kato Kaelin:
Provides a vivid account of the McDonald's incident, "He pulled into a McDonald's to a drive-through... I get there, and he orders... he ate the thing in one bite."

[21:39] Kato Kaelin:
Speculates on O.J.'s intentions during their final interaction, suggesting, "I think he's going back there... something's happening."

Insights and Reflections

[22:09] John Holmberg:
Encourages Kato to share his frustrations with new documentary revelations, "What part shocks you the most when you watch a documentary?"

[22:21] Kato Kaelin:
Discusses the impact of new evidence and its effect on his perception of the case, highlighting, "The evidence that with the Jill Shively and the Skip Junius... I'm thinking he was shunned at the dance recital..."

[23:28] John Holmberg:
Expresses awe at Kato's continued discoveries, "It's incredible of us. Evidence dismiss."

Closing Remarks and Future Teasers

[23:40] Kato Kaelin:
Jokes about the possibility of future interactions, "The hotel today. By the way, want to do some turn down service?"

[23:46] Kato Kaelin:
Playfully suggests, "Johnny, baby," maintaining a light-hearted atmosphere.

[24:09] Kato Kaelin:
Adds a humorous note about the after-show possibilities, "Never got to ask, I'll FaceTime heaven or hell."

[24:12] John Holmberg:
Wraps up the session by highlighting upcoming interactions, "O.J. and Kato will be in the room together later... if you have any questions, holmberg@90upd.com."

Notable Quotes with Timestamps

• John Holmberg [00:35]:
  "Your podcast is exactly what I want to do."

• Kato Kaelin [06:09]:
  "I'm famous for the most horrendous reason, and it's by no fault of my own."

• Kato Kaelin [09:32]:
  "No, I would have said guilty."

• Kato Kaelin [22:21]:
  "The evidence that with the Jill Shively and the Skip Junius... I'm thinking he was shunned at the dance recital..."

• Kato Kaelin [24:12]:
  "Never got to ask, I'll FaceTime heaven or hell."

Key Topics Discussed

1. Kato Kaelin's Early Life and Fame:

   • Interactions at the Playboy Mansion.
   • Relationships with celebrities like Robert Blake and Phil Spector.
   • The impact of being adjacent to the O.J. Simpson trial on his public image.

2. Public Perception and Personal Stance on the O.J. Simpson Case:

   • Kato's perspective on the trial and his personal opinions on O.J.'s guilt.
   • The struggle with being associated with the trial despite limited involvement.

3. Personal Interactions with O.J. Simpson:

   • Detailed account of meetings and experiences with O.J. before the trial.
   • The McDonald's incident and its significance in the timeline of events.

4. Insights from Documentaries and Continued Revelations:

   • New evidence emerging from documentaries.
   • Kato's evolving understanding of the case based on recent information.

5. Future Interactions and Show Teasers:

   • Anticipation of future discussions involving O.J. Simpson.
   • Encouragement for listener engagement through questions and interactions.

Conclusions and Reflections

The conversation between John Holmberg and Kato Kaelin delves deep into the complexities of fame, particularly how unforeseen and uncontrollable events can shape public perception. Kato offers a nuanced perspective on the O.J. Simpson trial, expressing personal opinions that contrast with public sentiment and legal outcomes. The discussion underscores the enduring impact of high-profile cases on individuals' lives and the challenges of reconciling personal experiences with public narratives.

As the episode progresses, Kato's candid anecdotes provide listeners with an insider's view of the events surrounding the trial, while also highlighting the lasting effects of media coverage and public opinion. The episode sets the stage for further exploration in subsequent parts, promising more revelations and in-depth discussions about the case and Kato's life thereafter.

For more engaging conversations and exclusive insights, tune in to Holmberg's Morning Sickness on 98 KUPD weekdays from 5:30 AM to 10:00 AM, or visit www.98kupd.com.