03-20-25 - Ra Ra Room Becoming Quite The Hip Spot For John - John Talked To Sophie Cunningham About Indiana And How He Hates It - AZ's Man's Death Row Last Meal Was Carls Jr - Rumors Of Al Capone House In Chandler

Summary

Holmberg's Morning Sickness - Arizona: Episode Summary (March 20, 2025)

Introduction

In the March 20, 2025 episode of Holmberg's Morning Sickness on 98 KUPD, host John Holmberg, along with co-hosts Brady Bogan, Brett Fesley, and Dick Toledo, delves into a variety of engaging and sometimes controversial topics. This episode covers the transformation of the Ra Ra Room into a popular hangout spot for John, a conversation with Sophie Cunningham about relocating to Indiana, an intriguing discussion about Arizona's Man on Death Row’s last meal at Carl’s Jr., and swirling rumors about Al Capone’s alleged residence in Chandler.

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1. The Ra Ra Room Transformation

John Holmberg kicks off the episode by sharing his recent experiences at the Ra Ra Room, highlighting its emergence as a vibrant social hub.

• Unexpected Turn of Events: John recounts an evening that started casually with a pleasant meal and evolved into a lively party. He narrates, “Everything’s fine. This room goes insane... like, it was kind of like the craziest party on a Wednesday I’ve ever seen” (05:52).

• Encounters and Misunderstandings: John describes a humorous interaction where he accidentally offered a drink with a unique hoodie feature, leading to confusion. “I didn’t even know I did that. Now I have one... it got weird in there last night” (08:10).

• Atmosphere and Crowd: The surge of unexpected attendees, including individuals dressed in unconventional attire, transformed the ambiance. John humorously observes, “There were these two 6 foot 5 Amazon twin blonde girls that were wandering around in there in underwear” (10:01).

Notable Quote:

"It's becoming very much... the Playboy Mansion without." – John Holmberg (12:11)

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2. Conversation with Sophie Cunningham: Indiana Relocation

In an insightful segment, John Holmberg engages with Sophie Cunningham about her impending move to Indiana, expressing his strong feelings about the state.

• Sophie’s Perspective: Sophie shares her excitement about playing alongside high-profile athletes like Caitlin Clark but also her apprehensions about relocating to Indiana. John notes, “She was trying to say, I’ll make the most of it, but there’s a reason she’s not just packed up and living there” (16:00).

• John’s Bias Against Indiana: John vehemently criticizes Indiana, painting it as an undesirable place to live. “Indiana’s the final way. It’s like having to live there. It’s the punishment for having to play on a High profile situation” (16:11).

• Listener Anecdotes: The discussion includes listener emails complaining about life in Indiana, reinforcing John’s negative portrayal. “I have one guy who emails all the time and he's like, yeah, I'm living in Indiana now. He's in southern Indiana. I think it's called Scott County. He’s talking about, like, why do you live there” (19:07).

Notable Quote:

“Indiana sucks ass compared to here.” – John Holmberg (18:08)

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3. AZ's Man on Death Row’s Last Meal: A Carl’s Jr. Tribute

A unique and somber topic is explored when John Holmberg discusses the last meal chosen by Arizona’s Man on Death Row, highlighting Carl’s Jr. as the establishment of choice.

• Details of the Last Meal: John shares that the inmate opted for a “double western bacon cheeseburger with fries,” emphasizing the quality and desirability of the meal. “That was like, man, that sounds good” (25:27).

• Comparative Commentary: The hosts compare this choice to other last meal requests, noting the consistency and reliability of Carl’s Jr. offerings. “If it’s your last meal, if it’s your first meal, if it’s just a meal, you’re going to get a delicious Carl Jr. Sandwich” (27:10).

• Humorous Banter: The segment includes light-hearted jokes about the logistics of serving last meals, such as the condition of fries and the challenges of traveling orders. “You can’t travel. Fries and Florence to the jail” (27:39).

Notable Quote:

“Last meal is Carl's Jr. Good for you, Carl Jr.” – John Holmberg (27:26)

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4. Rumors of Al Capone’s House in Chandler

The episode takes a historical detour as Brett Fesley brings up intriguing rumors about the infamous gangster Al Capone owning a house in Chandler.

• Origins of the Rumor: Brett explains that a fellow club member mentioned Al Capone purchasing a significant property on the San Marcos Golf Course, complete with a hidden tunnel for escapes. “They keep the door in the basement or wherever that… where the dirt was” (28:31).

• Skepticism and Evidence: The hosts express doubt about the authenticity of these claims, comparing them to other legendary tales. “But when you googled it, and again, it's the Internet, so who knows?” – Brett Fesley (30:18).

• Local Lore and Legends: John shares family stories and local legends related to Capone, questioning the validity of such claims. “I learned my uncle found a bunch of documents that he found out that the boathouse he owned Capone was part of way back in the day” (31:07).

Notable Quote:

“It's all sales pitches, like the haunted hotel and Jerome and all that stuff again.” – Brady Bogan (32:02)

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5. Additional Discussions and Anecdotes

Beyond the main topics, the episode includes various other discussions that add depth and entertainment value.

• Bracketology and Sports Predictions: The hosts engage in conversations about the complexities of filling out sports brackets, with John humorously admitting, “I have no idea who I have” (03:24).

• Broadcasting Challenges: John shares struggles with phone communications, highlighting his preference for text messages over calls. “I just spit up my drink laughing at your message because you know, I don't answer my phone” (02:17).

• Entertainment Industry Insights: The conversation touches on the entertainment scene, including encounters with music industry professionals and reflections on public personas.

Notable Quote:

“Everybody went home. And then they got the memo I didn’t get, which was, by the way, it’s Horror Night, if you want to come by.” – John Holmberg (11:24)

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Conclusion

This episode of Holmberg's Morning Sickness offers listeners a blend of humor, personal anecdotes, and candid discussions on varied topics ranging from local hotspots and sports to historical rumors and personal grievances about relocating. John Holmberg’s charismatic hosting, combined with the dynamic interactions among the co-hosts, ensures an engaging and entertaining listening experience for both regular followers and new audiences.

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Timestamp Reference:

• 05:52 - John Holmberg on Ra Ra Room events
• 08:10 - Interaction at Ra Ra Room
• 10:01 - Description of party attendees
• 12:11 - Comparison to Playboy Mansion
• 16:00 - Sophie Cunningham’s relocation
• 19:07 - Listener anecdotes about Indiana
• 18:08 - John’s opinion on Indiana vs. Arizona
• 25:27 - Details of last meal at Carl’s Jr.
• 27:10 - Commentary on Carl’s Jr. consistency
• 27:26 - Praise for Carl’s Jr.
• 28:31 - Al Capone's rumored house
• 30:18 - Skepticism about historical rumors
• 31:07 - Family stories about Capone
• 32:02 - Dismissal of local legends
• 03:24 - Discussion on bracketology
• 02:17 - John’s phone communication preference
• 11:24 - Post-game Horror Night memo

Transcript

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[Brady Bogan]

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[John Holmberg]

You've been deceived by an agent of Satan himself. He's evil sitting right here. Come on. No, no, he's not. He's not evil. He's just a bit rude. Good morning, everybody. Hello there. Welcome to Thursday. It's 5:45. It's the morning sickness. My name's John Holmberg. There's Brady Bogan. There's Brett Fesley. There's big Dick Toledo. We're off and running, ready to go for the penultimate day of the week, Thursday. Almost there. Getting close.

[Brett Fesley]

Madness.

[John Holmberg]

That's right, the madness begins. The brackets are out. The I get. Oh, Doug Hobbs gonna kill me. He's got a bracket thing. He does get in there. Well, I'm in it, but I. Here's the thing. This year, my bracketology. I let the computer do it. There's a button on there, it says computer fill in. And I'm like, it's gonna do just as good as I will. I liked what it picked, but it doesn't fill out the final score, the tiebreaker. So Doug's harping on. I just remember when you said that Doug keeps going, you gotta fill the tiebreaker. You gotta fill out Tybron. I keep forgetting. And he text me three times last night, like, did you remember your milk money? Don't forget. It's like my mom in elementary school, don't forget your lunch buddy. And I'm like, all right, I forgot. So I still have to get my tiebreaker, but my bracket is in. I have no idea who I have. Don't ask. I have not. It's the season of called it. That starts today. Oh, I called that one. I called the 11. I called the 14 to win. I don't know. The computer does all the work. For me, I don't even know who's. In the end, I just, I assume I'll be getting paid and everyone will hate me.

[Brady Bogan]

Least he called. And at least he text instead of called like he normally does.

[John Holmberg]

He does sometimes. Yeah. He sent me a message the other day just screaming at me that I know I have the voice message. It is just, it's a cuss filled rant about how I never answer the phone. And I text him back and I said, I just spit up my drink laughing at your message because you know, I don't answer my phone. I don't understand. People talk on the phone, John. Like I know. And it's just this rant and I'm dying laughing and I'm like, text me and tell me you're gonna call. I don't hear or pay. I don't. Am I the only one? I don't have a ringer. I turned it off a long time ago. I don't even know how to turn it back on. So my phone rings. I don't even know it's. It's ringing. And Doug also has an uncanny ability to know when I'm pooping. And every time I, every time my ass hits the toilet seat, like some sort of weird Doug signal goes off and he gives me a call, but I gotta fill that up. But he did text me last night. Fill out your tiebreaker. He hates texting.

[Brett Fesley]

This year they say one in six Americans will do a bracket.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah.

[Brett Fesley]

And it's, it's asked him about how you, where do you get your ideas for picks? You know, advice from friends, hunches, guts.

[John Holmberg]

It's all guts.

[Brett Fesley]

Like 23%.

[John Holmberg]

You couldn't do it. As closely as I follow baseball, you're basically saying for the next two weeks, predict who's going to be, who's going to win games. Like you just, you can't do 64 teams. You can't. 32 games in any sport followed or otherwise, you're just, you're just playing.

[Brett Fesley]

Luck said one in 10 sometime make picks based on the team's mascot.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah. If I give you one of their 14 games a day in baseball, pretty much thereabouts. If I gave you like the odds of, you know, you got to hit more than I do on this. And you're watching the Orioles and Tigers. You know, I don't know who's going to win this game. I'll take a shot here. Tigers are at home. I don't know. Do something. Just your gut tells you, just go here. It's Crapshoot. That's what makes it kind of fun. And then you got those people that just slave over it. They just stare at it for hours. Davidson did play Butler pretty well. Like, if you paid attention to that, you should feel sorry for yourself. That's the saddest life of all time. If you know anything about Davidson College in there. Who. Exactly. I was watching, like, the one that I didn't understand. Like, they. Some people have, like, a women's college bracket. And I was watching the other day, and I like Marist. I don't know. Is that a girls college? And like, something else like Hensley. And I'm watching, like, never heard of these two colleges. And it was a game to play. Like, the winner was going in. And I'm like, what? The first time I've ever heard of these colleges, and they're like, fill out your brackets on. Nope, I'm never doing that. That's the one that you. You should get your million dollars if you've ever. Like, that should be just a women's bracket. If you get the Final Four, it's almost always the top teams. But if you get to. Okay, if you get sweet 16 and you've. You've got 15 or 16, that's amazing. Yeah. You should get a million dollars. Because women's. Nobody follows any schools until now. And even then, it's just because it's on. But, yeah, good luck. You get your brackets together and hopefully there's some cash in it for you. I've always. I used to be kind of like. I used to think it was, like, something I had to do. Now it's almost this. It shows up and I'm like, I should fill one out. It's only because it's more just habit. And I can tell you right now, I've watched about 11 minutes of college basketball this year. That's about it. I don't think I've watched a full. I don't. Can't remember if I did. I don't. I don't think I've watched a full half of basketball.

[Brett Fesley]

Right.

[John Holmberg]

Maybe.

[Brett Fesley]

Maybe the equivalent of a game.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah. I'm not saying. Yeah. Yeah. All piled together.

[Brett Fesley]

Yeah. Piled together.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah. I could take two minutes from each game, and maybe I've watched a whole game, but I don't think I've even done that. Maybe a quarter, maybe. But it was fun last night. The sun's got. I took. I went with Shane O'Grady from Life Changer Loan and good game. We had fun. We're hanging out, doing Our thing, and then went into the rah rah room for a drink afterwards. And Mark Asher, former. He used to do sports radio here in town. He's doing something else now. I met him and his wife, and they're lovely people. And then the next thing you know, it's kind of normal. Everything's fine. This room goes insane. Like, it was the weirdest, like, flood of humanity that the tequila started flowing. Everybody started losing. Like, this turned into, like, the craziest party on a Wednesday I've ever seen. And I'm sitting there talking to her. Here's him. Here's. I'll never trust anybody who can't. I told Brett what. Can't answer the question. I was talking to this guy, and he says, he's, you know, I. I thought he was like, a rapper or something. He had swag and all that. And he looks at me, he said, what are you doing? And I said, I'm in radio. And he goes, radio, man. I do music. I'm in music. I'm like, oh, yeah? What do you do? I'm a salesman. I'm like, oh, you work at a record store? I was just kidding. And he said, no, no, I'm in sales. And I'm like, oh, okay, that's not music. How do I trans? So I'm like, so, what do you sell? And he said. And he just stared at me for a second, and I'm like, I've asked this guy a question he just doesn't want to answer.

[Brady Bogan]

Was it Ed from downstairs? He sells music. Technically, he does, kind of.

[John Holmberg]

But then he said stuff that makes.

[Brett Fesley]

You feel good when you listen to music.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah, I sell anything, man. I'm an entrepreneur. I don't know that. That's not what. That's not what that means. And now that's a third thing. So I just. I stopped because I realized if someone's not. If you can't answer, what do you do for a living? Quickly.

[Brady Bogan]

Yeah.

[John Holmberg]

And like, with, like, you're up something. You know, I'm a salesman. Means everything in my pocket may or may not be allowed. And I'm like, I'm not going to ask any more questions. When I say, what do you do for a living? And you say, music. And then I ask, oh, yeah, what? And then the next word out of your mouth is sales. I'm like, oh, okay. Music sales. Is that related? No. And then. And then he said in the middle of it goes, I'm. I live in Verrado. I didn't even ask you that. Okay. Like Vera, a big music scene out in Verrado. And he goes, I'm from Tennessee. None of these are questions. You're talking to somebody else. Like, are you hearing someone else? Do you have a bluetooth? And I don't see. And yeah, so I just stopped asking.

[Brett Fesley]

Tell them where you live.

[John Holmberg]

Super nice guy. So then later, when the tequila gets flowing, Kevin Ray comes down from the game and we start talking and he's. So next thing you know, we're drinking tequila and we're hanging out. And that dude standing next to me and the bartender's name is Kefir, hands me two and said, we just had to cut a guy off. It's getting weird in here. He goes, you want these two more shots? Tequila. I'm not really drinking a ton of them, but I'm involved. And I'm like, yeah, I can throw those on. So I turn around and I've got a hoodie on. And it's got its. The hood, the little. What are they? The pulley strings. Tighten them up. No one ever uses to turn you into Kenny from South park. And I had him. And I'm like, okay. So I'm not paying attention. And I turn to brother Verado and I said, hey, I got two shots from Kiefer if you guys want to do it. And his friend goes, hey, man, what are you trying to pull? Like, nothing. You want these or not? He goes, man, your pulley string is in my drink. I had the string from my thing was. I'm trying to offer one.

[Brady Bogan]

Call it commercial or what.

[John Holmberg]

Well, yeah, but I started the laugh. Yeah, chocolate's in my. Chocolate is in my peanut butter, brother. So I start laughing. I'm like, I didn't even know I did that. Now I have one. This one will put away. Oh, man. Look over a few seconds later, he's got it just. He drops the pulley string drink. And I'm like, he thought I was up to something, but it was kind of a rude thing to do to have half your clothes dipped in the beverage. You want this? Like, it got weird in there last night. There were these two 6 foot 5Amazon twin blonde girls that were wandering around in there in underwear. All right, well, that's what I'm saying. The Suns games have turned into almost sort of like Vegas. Like there's a. There's a faction of people that are there. As I walked in last night, I looked over at some girl getting out of a car. They were dressed like it was Halloween. It was like, it's kind of like Tramp convention. I'm not complaining, but I remember at.

[Brett Fesley]

One point, I mean, it was a couple years ago, but they. They did that club up there and go to the game. They had a club, they had a DJ going. And there's a faction of people just dancing, dj, not even paying attention.

[John Holmberg]

Nobody cares about the game when you're in one of those things. It's more fun. Come on. The Raptors and the Bulls this week. You better give me something to do. If I'm a season ticket holder, there better be some extracurricular activity going on because the game is not going to be as fun out Fridays. The Cavaliers are going to pay attention to that. But it was weird. It's. Yeah, but I'm looking in these people, and it was after the game. The place is just flooding with people. Like, they went home and changed their clothes and came in in club attire. I'm like, it's Wednesday. And even the employees are like, what is going on in here? Like, I'm. Bryce is the manager. What's happening? He goes, I don't know. This got weird tonight. I'm like, real quick, spring break, maybe. But they're adults.

[Brett Fesley]

Adults don't get spring break. They get their week.

[John Holmberg]

Okay. But it wasn't. If you're away from your kids and you're wearing underwear on a Wednesday, you hate your kids. You've been dying to do new stuff. If you go out in your underpants, just a bra that you made out of a T shirt and top of her ass was out a good 3, 4 inches. And she was great. It looked great. It looked like AI came to life. And you said, don't wear clothes that fit. And they just showed up. And I'm like, you couldn't have gone to a sunscreen? You can't sit down in. Those clothes will just pop off. It was outstanding.

[Brady Bogan]

But it was a good view because a lot of times that's not the good view when the clothes are going to pop off.

[John Holmberg]

An excellent point. An excellent point. A lot of people that try to wear that stuff, the clothes are fighting back. The clothes are trying to get off. They're trying to run to another person. Yeah. They're trying to become a bedspread like they used to be before she tried to turn them into pants. Morning sickness.

[Brett Fesley]

Hear the words you say sometimes. I mean, who talks like that?

[John Holmberg]

Hol's morning sickness. But, yeah, this was definitely different pleasurable to look at. But I'm sitting there with Kevin Ray, and he's even there. He's like, what is going on in here tonight? I don't know. Everybody went home. And then they got the memo I didn't get, which was, by the way, it's Horror Night, if you want to come by.

[Brett Fesley]

Almost like the Grotto and Hefner's place.

[John Holmberg]

It's becoming very much. Yeah, it's. It's the Playboy Mansion without. And then there's a guy standing next to me. I'm like, these two couldn't have gone to gaming. So, yeah, that one on the right there. I bang her every couple of weeks. Like, wait a minute. What? He goes, here you go. Breaks his phone out. He's got pictures. And I'm like, what is going on? And he said, yeah, that one on the right. It's. And then he said something about pricing. And I'm like, oh, I see what's going on here. I see what's going on.

[Brady Bogan]

Amazon chick.

[John Holmberg]

No, a girl with the Amazon.

[Brady Bogan]

Okay.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah. I'm not sure. The Amazon chicks were, I think, for a fee, enough to be buying kids clothes. And evidently they go through the moon. It was nuts. But it got real crazy last night. I was. I was an observer. I like being the observer. Me and Kevin Ray. It was normal until after the game. Maybe it's Chicago. Maybe the connection back to Chicago. Chicago had a tie back. I don't know, something the Bulls. But it was weird in every direction. It's one of those off nights where you're just like, this isn't a normal evening. You halfway expect a midget and a clown and somebody in a wheelchair and like, all. Every faction represented. But I learned last night, I don't trust anybody. When I ask them what they do for a living, like, I'm immediately thinking, I gotta get away from this guy. Cause the cops are gonna raid this place. When you answer with three different things to one question and none of them are specific.

[Brady Bogan]

Can we have him into Brady Report one day?

[John Holmberg]

Yeah. Yeah. It was like. That's exactly what it was, Brett. It was like trying to decipher a story from the Brady Report. And I'm like, wait, you said you did music? And then. And then we started to have, like a normal music conversation. Like, oh, he does. But he, like, never gave me a specific answer on what he did. And I'm like, eh. And all I'm thinking is, there's like, fentanyl somewhere. He's. Something bad is going on.

[Brady Bogan]

It's funny because a couple emails came in. Drug dealer. Drug dealer.

[John Holmberg]

Well, that's racist. But I couldn't. I thought it and Then I said, don't be racist.

[Brett Fesley]

Entrepreneur.

[John Holmberg]

Entrepreneur, Exactly. Yeah. That's what I sell things. And. Well, that's.

[Brett Fesley]

I wonder if he knew you're a very important man that you had dinner with in Vegas a couple years ago.

[John Holmberg]

Oh, Russell.

[Brady Bogan]

Yeah, Russell.

[John Holmberg]

Well, pretty Russell is a different animal. You see, Russell answered the question. What do you sell? Is an interesting question, Justin. And my name's not Justin. Anyway, I don't care about anybody's name but my own. Here's what you need to know about me. I was offered $250,000 for my sperms. That's interesting here. Enjoying some taquitos with a stranger who's. I've never thought I'd hear that. 250 grand for his sperms. I think people would give me $250,000 to never do it again. Just leave those inside. You don't need to do this. Mm. Mm. That's amazing that you would ask that question. I find it fascinating, actually, that you would ask that question. Really? What do you do for a living? Fascination. Mm. Because the answer is quite fascinating. I sell my sperms. Two lucky ladies. And then he broke out pictures of himself. I'm like, you might have the most perfect physique I've ever seen in my life. I think I. May I buy some of your sperms? Mm. And I met your friend here, the beautiful Erica. She's a lovely lady. Yep. She's the casino hostess. Mm. She did not offer me $250,000 for my sperms, but I did offer her a free taste. Okay. All right. This is weird. The dude last night did not do that. That would have been an, what do you sell my sperms? And I'm like, I've met a guy who does that. I mean, it would have been okay. He would have been. But it was strange. It was a very strange thing. And Sophie Cunningham was in there from the WNBA last night, and she's moving back to Indiana. And I didn't get a lot out of Sophie, but I was chatting with her and.

[Brett Fesley]

Does she have the fever?

[John Holmberg]

She's very happy about her opportunity because she's playing in a high profile thing with that Caitlin Clark, but she was. I'm not so sure Indiana's anybody's destination. So I think deep down she has. She's made it. So she's smart. Sophie's a sweet girl. She's very nice, but she's made it. So Indiana being the final way. It's like having to live there. Is the punishment for having to play on a High profile situation. Which is. I felt bad for it because I said, look, I'm from Indiana. I know this is. Nobody wants to go there. Like, if you're here and they say, hey, we're moving. Anybody gets transferred to Indiana, it's a bad day. Your boss comes in, all right, we're moving the headquarters to Evansville. You're like, oh, why? He's out cheaper. Oh, no. And then you start thinking about bugs.

[Brett Fesley]

And got a great deal in Gary.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah, we get a great deal up by the steel mill. You're gonna love it. Live by the Jackson's home. And then of course, on the weekends, you can go over to the fake steamboat casino that sits on the water. It's beautiful in summertime. For two to five days a year, you can enjoy the Indiana dunes on Lake Michigan. I would rather not just. Why can't we just stay here? I'll take a pay cut. Nobody hears those words. And we don't. We take that for granted. Here in Arizona, the no bug thing. When the weather's good back in the middle Midwest, you can't still can't go outside without smelling like a factory of deet. Cause you get eaten alive by everything that's enjoying the weather with you. And they're all bugs. I, you know, I know Brady doesn't like hearing it, but the Midwest sucks ass compared to here. So I felt bad for Sophie when she was telling me that Indiana's her destination. And looking at her and I'm like, eh, that does kind of suck. I would quit if I was you and just get into broadcasting. She'll be all right. Boy, Indiana. And we got people who listen in Indiana. They, they'll email me and they'll tell me, God, it sucks here.

[Brett Fesley]

And most of the time it's not good to visit.

[John Holmberg]

No, it's not in the fall. No, it's not. Indiana's not good to visit.

[Brett Fesley]

Oh, not Indiana.

[John Holmberg]

No.

[Brett Fesley]

I go back, you know, like. Like you're saying the summers, it's horrible.

[John Holmberg]

Just bugs and the work hot here. But you're fooling yourself thinking that going back there in the fall is better than this fall here. The fall here is better. Everything here is better than there.

[Brett Fesley]

Every time I email, I'm visiting there. Here I live, it's phenome.

[Brady Bogan]

Yeah, well, you wouldn't want to live there.

[John Holmberg]

Again, there's the other problem. Yeah, visiting there is not a thing, people. There's no travel agent that says, have you been to beautiful Ohio yet? They don't have posters of Columbus on their Walls. This is the big sell. Nobody wants Columbus. Nobody wants to go back. You're going back because your family's there. And more than likely, yeah, you're going to go watch a football game. You're not going back to see the sights of Ohio. Golfing. All you got to do is grab a weed eater and start working. It sucks there.

[Brady Bogan]

I always look at it as, like, would I want to live there again?

[John Holmberg]

No.

[Brady Bogan]

You know, permanently.

[John Holmberg]

Everyone who emails me that had to go back. Like, I have one guy who emails all the time and he's like, yeah, I'm living in Indiana now. He's in southern Indiana. And I. Scott County, I think he said it's the meth capital of the world. More arrests for meth than anywhere else. And it's like, 10th year in a row. No kidding. And that's south. That's over by Ohio. Then Kentucky, kind of that region.

[Brett Fesley]

Yeah.

[John Holmberg]

I think it's called Scott County. He's talking about, like, why do you live there? You were here? And he goes, well, I got a girl pregnant. He visited his family, knocked a girl up, and then, like, in order to see the kid, he's got to live within, like, 25 miles of her. So he took a job out there. It's the nightmare. The only. That's. I don't. Look, I don't love anybody that much to move to Indiana to see them. We have FaceTime now. Let's put the baby on FaceTime and get to know him that way. And then why can't she. She move here because she has a job. You had to go find a job in meth capital, Indiana school. Yeah, I got no problem. Like, people talk about, like, the United States going into civil war and stuff. We could get rid of a few states and let them be their own countries. And Indiana would turn into Afghanistan in, like, eight hours. If it seceded, it would be like, eight hours later. There'd be cave people and wars, and that place stinks. Nothing. If you don't have a tourist attraction at all that someone can sell you a package for, I don't even consider you a state. Like, it's. You're not even like a real thing. You're just. You're Passover. Indiana has nothing. You can't name one thing. You'd be like, wow, got to go to Indiana before I die. I got to see that. Name it 500 and watch it on TV. I have to be there for that. And that's just one day. I'm talking about, like, a thing that's in Indiana all the time. You have to see now it's Sophie Cunningham. Other than that.

[Brady Bogan]

The Jackson home.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah, that's it. I've seen it, by the way. It's smaller than this studio. Don't go, wow, it's horrible. And it is in a horrible spot. It's called Gary, Indiana. And just behind it is the steel mill. It'll choke you out. It's a worst city in the world. Yeah. Nope. Nothing.

[Brett Fesley]

Notre Dame football game.

[John Holmberg]

Nope. That's a. That's an event. That's not a tourist attraction. Right. Because there isn't any. It's all you can think of because you're trying to find an answer to the answer of nope, nothing. Ohio's the same. There's nothing there at all outside of. They built. You know, Ohio got smart. I will give Ohio credit because a long time ago, somebody looked around and went, what the. This place. This sucks. You know what we need to do to make money is, like, steal the Football hall of Fame and stuff and, like, put it here. Steal it? Yeah. No one we had. No one would suspect it's here. Like, it shouldn't be. And they started to build the Football hall of Fame. So that's in Ohio.

[Brady Bogan]

They got the Rock and Roll hall of Fame there, too.

[John Holmberg]

Exactly. Because they realized the only way to get people here is to steal stuff that doesn't belong. They tried to tie it to a DJ that said rock and roll. We did it. That's ours. Mike, you didn't have anything to do with anything. It's as big. I got to give it to Kentucky. They don't even try. They admit that they suck. And they're like. And anybody who's ever been to the Kentucky Derby, I'm like, how was it? Like, greatest event ever. When you leave, you're in the. The worst, poorest place you've ever been. Like, the second you walk out of the Kentucky Churchill Downs, you're in some hellscape. It's just awful. It's trailers and houses made of ugly bedding.

[Brett Fesley]

Tickets.

[John Holmberg]

We don't.

[Brett Fesley]

We take for granted the insulation of torn up.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah.

[Brett Fesley]

Hear the words you say sometimes. I mean, who talks like that?

[John Holmberg]

98Kupd Holmberg's Morning Sickness. When there's beds outside, like, in your yard, and nobody seems to care or move them, and that's evidently right outside of church. My dad went. He goes, churchill Downs, man. It's beautiful. I'm like, is it? I said, where do you stay? He goes, oh, you want to stay anywhere near the place? I'M like, really? He goes, oh, it's horrible. It says Doug Hockey. Everybody tells me it's smack dab in the middle of Maryvale, Kentucky. Yeah. Just a dump. And Kentucky doesn't even try. They just, you want to tour our bourbon factories and get drunk here in Kentucky. I'm like, I do. That sounds nice. Yeah. Gross. We have it made here. It's a beautiful place. And I'm sure I'll get a text from somebody going, you got bugs. We got that. Yeah, you can stomp out scorpions eventually. They're weird, but, you know, we're not. It's not perfect, but it's better than that place. Got the Grand Canyon, you got Sedona. It. Perfect weather all the time. This is so much better than back there. So talking to Sophie about that, I could see it in her eyes. Like, Indiana, huh? Like, she was trying to say, I'll make the most of it, but there's a reason she's not just packed up and living there.

[Brady Bogan]

Well, she got. She got traded, right? It wasn't signed.

[John Holmberg]

She didn't.

[Brady Bogan]

She got trailer.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah, she got traded. And that's something that has to happen because no one would ever intentionally say, I'm leaving here. Going. Going to Indiana because that's where I need to be. It's like. And of course she doesn't want to be there. That's why I see her here still. And, you know, that's why she's just hanging around Phoenix until she has to go. I'm like, when do you go back? And she goes, a couple more weeks. I got to make you stay here the whole time. Oh, yeah. Yeah. I love sunshine and happiness, and I'm like, oh, you should stay here. Yeah, I'll be back. I'll be back a lot. She's from Missouri. She knows they name that state appropriately. Misery. Yeah. Sometimes when people on TV are like, the United States is made. I'm like, there's a lot of it. We could start calling pretty cruddy. Let's just point out the good spots, and we're one of them. So the guy that got killed yesterday, we're talking to Troy Hayden again, because he got to watch that. And he said it was really efficient, the execution yesterday. But the great part about it was, and this was congratulations to Carl's Jr. Because his last meal was Carl's Jr. I've never seen this before. The dude ordered up a delightful Carl's Jr full meal, double western bacon cheeseburger. And when he did it, I kind of got excited. For that meal. It was, it was fantastic. Like the idea of it was like, man, you've nailed the best fast food final meal of all time. That's my favorite fast food sandwich.

[Brett Fesley]

The double western cheeseburger.

[John Holmberg]

The double western bacon cheeseburger. And he got a double western bacon cheeseburger with fries. Can't not have that. It's got that delicious tangy barbecue sauce and all. He got a Spyro gyro and barbecued gyro. Those are lamb meat, right?

[Brady Bogan]

Most of the time it is, yeah.

[John Holmberg]

Onion rings came with that. Didn't have any last words. And he's just got a belly full of Carl's junior and that's how he wanted to go out.

[Brett Fesley]

33 minutes.

[John Holmberg]

Remember Brady yesterday he wanted steak 44 with all the fixings. You get creme brulee and the cream corn, everything. This dude just like double western bacon cheese. That'll do. And some fries, kind of large. And do you get large? What happens if you're kind of full? Do you leave something?

[Brady Bogan]

Are you allowed to supersize that or whatever?

[John Holmberg]

You start packing it up for later or you're just like, no, I better finish that. That's a hell of an order right there. I'm.

[Brady Bogan]

That's the execution. You gonna finish some fries?

[John Holmberg]

One dude just goes over reach it like to get that one guy that doesn't is unafraid to touch your food. You just took one of my fris. My last meal. You. I wanted every one of those.

[Brady Bogan]

What are you gonna do about it?

[John Holmberg]

What if it's the last meal and you get a fast food thing? You know, sometimes you go to McDonald's or something, you're like craving their fries and you get the bottom of the barrel fries.

[Brady Bogan]

Oh yeah.

[Brett Fesley]

The worst.

[John Holmberg]

So disappointing to drive out of the drive thru and you reach in and you can feel her kind of crunchy. They're not like.

[Brett Fesley]

Because you remember when you got the ones.

[Brady Bogan]

Yeah.

[John Holmberg]

Oh, the fresh. Yeah, yeah. You want the fresh batch like one minute after they pour them. And you're like, oh man, that's good. But you get to. They're starting to turn a little bit like ugly diarrhea brown. They're not quite right. That first bite. You're like, oh, they got a bad batch. That would be rough for your last meal. And how about the pressure on the kid of Carl's junior Did he know we need a double western bacon cheeseburger and we need it and they had to travel.

[Brady Bogan]

That's the case. He just got the order.

[John Holmberg]

You know what That's a tribute to Carl's Jr right there. Because they pump out the same thing no matter what. If it's your last meal, if it's your first meal, if it's just a meal, you're going to get a delicious Carl Jr. Sandwich. But so that had to travel. Somebody had to go get that.

[Brett Fesley]

He got a cold.

[John Holmberg]

And it's probably like, look at Brady's face right now. This is sad for him.

[Brett Fesley]

Yeah. So sad.

[John Holmberg]

Cold. Yuck.

[Brady Bogan]

Poor guy.

[John Holmberg]

Poor guy.

[Brett Fesley]

Sorry, bro. Fries don't travel.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah, you can't. You can't travel. Fries and Florence to the jail. Is there a Carl's Jr. Close? I don't. I don't go to Florence. I don't know.

[Brett Fesley]

I will be next week.

[John Holmberg]

What for? Oh, Kirby's got a tennis man.

[Brady Bogan]

She can drive now. I wouldn't go.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah. Why are you driving her?

[Brett Fesley]

Watch the match.

[John Holmberg]

Oh, you don't want to see that. Yeah. You're insane. No man wants. We're family. No. Yeah, good. Yeah. And family would understand. You're doing something I don't want. She don't want to watch you golf. How come she didn't tag along? Watch you golf? Speaking of. It's a good question, isn't it?

[Brett Fesley]

Golfing?

[John Holmberg]

Yeah.

[Brett Fesley]

Yesterday, played at San Marcos. The Sheridan.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah.

[Brett Fesley]

Did you know Al Capone had a house there?

[John Holmberg]

I did not.

[Brett Fesley]

I didn't know.

[John Holmberg]

Not still, no.

[Brett Fesley]

But he bought the house. It's a big house on the. On the course.

[John Holmberg]

Who told you this?

[Brett Fesley]

The guy that was a member there played randomly. I had no idea. So Capone owned this house, and on the course, there's. Because I'm like, why they call the little hat the snack bar? Says Capone's Hideaway. Well, this original building, when he bought the house, there's a tunnel that went from the house.

[John Holmberg]

Why wouldn't they keep that?

[Brett Fesley]

They evidently filled the tunnel. Why? That's what I said. I go. And then in the house, the people that own it right now, because the house was built by Dr. Chandler. Dr. Chandler.

[John Holmberg]

A.J. chandler? Yeah.

[Brett Fesley]

And so I go. They at least keep the door in the basement or wherever that. You know, where the dirt was? I don't think so, but he goes. You know, after that hideaway thing, the tunnel, because every time the feds would come by or whatever, he would just go through the tunnel and out that little.

[John Holmberg]

Not the little. On the golf course.

[Brett Fesley]

On the golf course.

[John Holmberg]

So they just built a shack that he could pop in and out of.

[Brett Fesley]

He had it.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah.

[Brett Fesley]

It was a utility shack.

[John Holmberg]

And the feds would show up at his house, and they couldn't find an.

[Brett Fesley]

Escape, just like they had on those, you know, the homes in Cedar Lake, I think.

[John Holmberg]

Oh, yeah, Cedar Lakes. My uncle was. But they didn't have any tunnels.

[Brett Fesley]

They had some back doors and.

[John Holmberg]

Well, they were hiding spots.

[Brady Bogan]

There's tunnels from the San Marcos to the old train station, too.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah, the train station in Mesa.

[Brady Bogan]

No, the one in Chandler. Oh, it's right over. Just. Just off of it is.

[Brett Fesley]

And then I've been to that bar, you know, in the San Marcos, the. The ostrich, where it's just the red light on it, the side door to speak easy and such in the basement of it. And I thought the company basically did that thing. Nope, that was a speaker.

[John Holmberg]

Kidding. This isn't just. There are tunnels.

[Brady Bogan]

Yeah.

[John Holmberg]

Who knows this or there were. Why would we fill those in? That's. I know they have no history over there in Chandler, and they. The one they do have. They filled it with dirt. Idiots. Re Dig those tunnels, for crying out loud. Now I want to know if we're being sold a bill of goods, because I know they do that.

[Brett Fesley]

You look at the house and the houses, looks like it'd be something in, you know, the shake shingle roof. And it was just old. Old school house.

[John Holmberg]

Still.

[Brady Bogan]

See, when we were talking the other day about, you know, the Italian tour and everything else, and somebody emailed saying the same thing about, you know, Capone having a house over at San Marcos. But then when I googled it, and again, it's the Internet, so who knows? But when you googled it, there was a lot of articles saying it's never been proven, but that's the rumor. But I don't.

[Brett Fesley]

I don't know, because that moo. I just remember that movie, that Tom Hardy, he played Capone. I don't know, like, he finished out the rest of his life. And I think it was like a beach. Yeah.

[John Holmberg]

Florida. Brett knows. And nobody saw that movie. You might have seen. I don't know if that was. But again, it's just movies, so who knows? That's how northwest Indiana is, like, crazy. Everywhere you go, Capone or Dillinger, Baby Face Nelson. And like, everybody's got something around there that they were playing around with. Like, is that real? My uncle found a bunch of documents that he found out that the boathouse he owned Capone was part of way back in the day, but it was his. Where he hid stuff. They were constantly finding old paper, nothing important.

[Brett Fesley]

Elvis in Sedona, he was in Sedona.

[John Holmberg]

Oh, that's right. I was up at the house in Sedona that I've heard that.

[Brady Bogan]

Oh, no kidding.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah, but I think that's a sales pitch.

[Brett Fesley]

I know.

[John Holmberg]

And even still, like, did he leave anything behind? Because if he didn't, who cares?

[Brady Bogan]

It's all sales pitches, like the haunted hotel and Jerome and all that stuff again.

[John Holmberg]

Go ruin your room and come back and say the ghost went crazy. And there's. They're going to admit it's not haunted. I can. I can prove everything about your haunted house in two seconds by trashing the place. And then I watch your face turn back and go, you did that, you jerk. And I'm like, I thought you said it was haunted. You know, the ghost didn't do that. Then you know, there's no ghost.

[Brady Bogan]

So Casper's a friendly ghost.

[John Holmberg]

He didn't. You know, he tried to tell you that at the. The Del Coronado. Every once in a while, Kate Morgan will knock on your door, maybe even open it. I'm like, oh, so she gets a little violent sometimes. Sometimes she tries to scare you. So. All right, well, if anything gets trashed in the. That room, she did it. Well, I mean, that's not. They immediately changed their tune, like, well, don't wreck anything because the horse I'm feeding you is just that. I mean, let's not. Let's not cost us any money. The ghost isn't real.

[Brady Bogan]

We just got a report that the closest Carl's junior To Florence is in Apache Junction on Idaho in the 60s, so.

[John Holmberg]

Bastard.

[Brady Bogan]

Them fries are terrible.

[John Holmberg]

Soggy fries. Yeah. You can't. What a weird thing. We'll talk to Troy Hayden a little bit. I'm going to ask him about the last meal and if he has to witness that or, like, where that happened. Yeah.

[Brett Fesley]

Do they watch that?

[John Holmberg]

Yeah.

[Brady Bogan]

Does he get a double Western bacon cheese burger?

[John Holmberg]

A Fly I buy kind of situation. If I was hitting, I'd be like, hey, where you going? You're gonna hit. I'll buy it. You get me one of them double Western bacon cheeseburgers. That barbecue sauce is fantastic. You know what? I'm kind of hankering for a shake, too. Let's get a. What do you guys want? A shake of 10 fries. It's going to take forever. Look, we got till 10. This guy's got all.

[Brady Bogan]

A couple minutes later, he'll be there.

[John Holmberg]

He ain't going anywhere. Trust me. Last meal is Carl's Jr. Good for you, Carl Jr. Because the second I read it, I'm like, man, that sounds good.

[Brady Bogan]

They open this early?

[John Holmberg]

I don't know. I don't even know where one is. There's one in Guadalupe, evidently one in Apache Junction. I don't know where we have them here. That sounds good. Every time I drove to Los Angeles, I couldn't get through Blythe, California without hitting the. They have a Carl's Jr. Man, oh, man. Something about that one was excellent. Double West. Oh, that does sound good. First thing in the morning, let's get a Wake up song. While we're thinking about our first meal, that guy's last meal will be our first meal of the day. You give us a wake up song, call us up. 585-9800. That is the number. You tell us what you want to hear, we'll scream it together. It's 98 KUPD. Wake up.

[Dick Toledo]

It's not weird.

[Brett Fesley]

It's pretty cool, actually. No membership fee.

[John Holmberg]

I have heard enough of this.