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Brady
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John Holmberg
Good morning everybody. Hello there. Welcome to Monday. It's 5:45. Good morning sickness. My name's John, there's Brady, there's Brett, and there's big Dick Toledo. That's us. Like it or not, we're still. What a weekend. Crazy stuff. And we had of course Ron Capps in the NHRA this week. We just got an email right off the bat first thing today, Gabriel Verdugo emails see Caps he blew up. Yeah, Brady said he didn't get to see it, but rumor is through knowing caps and all that had him on the show on Thursday. Bashed him to the wall, blew his car up, walked right away. That's amazing out there at those drag races, how often crazy stuff happens and they just get up and walk out.
Brett
Of there and just like technology and just everything that they've done in that.
John Holmberg
Ca whole thing, it's just, I mean to think about that kind of power and that much fuel and all that, just amazing. So it's good to hear that. Caps had a wreck yesterday. So it the.
Brett
And he was running good.
John Holmberg
Gotta say, if I was him, I don't want this to be the case. I wouldn't come here anymore. I gotta figure he's been here 20 years and won like twice. There's certain aspect of that starts to be like change up your routine. It's not us. It might be. It's not me, it's you, right? It's like. But no, I think, I think for, you know, if you're 7, 2 and 17, you fire the media guys. I gotta feel like we're a little responsible for that. If every time you come to town you do the same things and it's the ritual, you know, it's those Superstitions. You put a quarter in your shoe, you shave one eyebrow off, you go visit the morning sickness and then you've only won twice out of 20 times. Maybe you stop doing that. I don't want it to be the case. I want him to keep doing it. But I'm starting to feel a little partially responsible just a little bit when I, you know, I've probably gotten the caps blew up email a lot more than I have. Caps won again. I don't know how many times he's won Phoenix. Probably three or four maybe. I don't know. Taking a shot. I know it's drastically low compared to how many times he's visited and I've loved every time he's visited Jesus. I mean, you think about it. One of the guys that initially got him to us died for crying out loud. I mean some of the people he's around are dying that knew us and we might not be the best luck for Ron Capps is what I'm saying.
Brett
Well, nothing had to do with it. You are had a drink hard racing team.
John Holmberg
Look Brady, here we go again with you trying to blame alcohol for why that happened. That had nothing to do with it.
Brett
It did.
John Holmberg
He wasn't a hard living to the point where it killed him or we'd all be dead. Except you. Brett and I would have been dead.
Brady
Months ago, man, if not years ago.
John Holmberg
I would have died Friday for crying out loud. Had a great time Friday night me and Marty went to the Sun's game and drank ourselves silly and then went over to that IHOP that's got a bar in it and went bananas. It was fun. But yeah. So look, we don't always have happen to you when you drink. I know a good thing to tell Kirby. Drinking causes lumps. I've got friends. They're in the ground. But yeah, I mean, you know, but good luck to Caps. I hope it all works out. We had George Foreman on the show. He died too. I mean, God, it never ends. Now we actually had George Foreman on the show once on the phone, right? It was on the phone. Let me, let me be the one who tells the truth. It was on the phone. I forget what he was promoting. It might have been that old man show he did. It might have been something else. He was promoting something and it was funny. He was very funny. Toledo will probably remember. So he's got that the miserable awful person who used to work at this station and still lingers around this black cloud. I mean, you want to talk about tumor that lives in this city. His name is Dave Pratt, and he used to do the morning show here at KUPD years ago. Awful human Being. Awful, awful Human Being. One of the biggest liars you'll ever meet in your life. Put a post out that. You didn't see it?
Brady
No, I'm gonna look at it.
John Holmberg
Because he does a thing now. He does a thing where any celebrity that dies, he then lies about how well he knew them and puts out a story, essentially a eulogy, about himself and his relationship, which is with this super celebrity, which is always a wizard at it. Well, it's actually pretty formulaic, and I have proof of that because I know someone who puts out his eulogy before him, and it's usually pretty close. Although my. The Dave Pratt lies page. Not Dave Pratt lies, Dave Pratt lies page. The eulogy was for George Forearm and had a picture of George Lopez, because so often the facts are lost. It's a very good one. However Pratt puts out this eulogy, he can't help himself. It's a dead man, for crying out loud. Had him on the show a million times. Loved it. I remember the one time he's on the show. I wish. I wish I'd have kept the Foreman griller that he gave me because I had my very small studio apartment. He used the Foreman griller that George gave him while he was in his studio apartment. This was no earlier than, like, Dave. Dave always brags about how successful he was, how he was making 20 grand a weekend just from bars that wanted him to come. Be there. Appearances. That would be like, hey, if you just show up, we'll give you $10,000. But in 1994, he lived in a small studio apartment and got a George Foreman griller he didn't even know how to get. Like, that's when the Foreman grill came out.
Brady
94.
John Holmberg
91. 94.
Brady
No, I'm sorry, 94, 31 years ago.
John Holmberg
Either way, why do it? Why does this insufferable anus constantly do this? It's a dead man. I don't understand it, but there it is, and it's out there. So George Foreman dying was, to me, usurped by the fact that Dave Pratt couldn't keep his grubby paws off the corpse for a second just to say, hey, what a career. We'll miss you, George. Nope. It was about some made up nonsense where this douchebag had a George Foreman grill handed to him by. And by the way, even if George Foreman did put that grill out in the early 80s, when Dave first had a show and was poor and all that other stuff, which he always brags he wasn't. Anyway, he was. He was a recluse through the 80s. George Foreman went through so many problems. He didn't do local radio shows in the 80s.
Brett
Well, Dave didn't go into details there. He got the prototype.
John Holmberg
That's what I said on my text to the guy who sent it to me. I'm like, oh, well, yeah. I mean, initially, he got the original Foreman grill, and he started to use it. Never told anybody. You know, I've had one for 13 years. I'm surprised it took you this long to get them to the public. I can make hamburgers at home. All right, buddy. I've been making those on your Foreman Griller.
Brady
All right, well, he wanted to call it the Sex Machine Grill, but he said, no, George, you should call it the George Foreman Grill.
John Holmberg
That's great. I like that. The Sex Machine Grill. Until it was night. I think that's a little too much me. People are gonna associate with me. So I say you call it the George Foreman Grill. Get some names on that.
Brett
All right, buddy.
John Holmberg
For those of you not familiar with Dave Pratt, congratulations. You're lucky. I've hated him for ages. And some people who've been around the val. Remember. You remember what it was for Rich? Why. Why was Foreman on our show?
Dick Toledo
So there was a cacophony going on that morning. We had Chris Jericho in studio. We had Kelly Kelly in studio.
John Holmberg
Was that the day that he.
Dick Toledo
They were there for? That was the day they spilled all the beans.
John Holmberg
They had an affair in the bathroom.
Dick Toledo
Right. And Ralphie was in that morning as well. So it was Ralphie, Chris Jericho, Kelly Kelly. And. And Foreman called and about at the end of their hour.
John Holmberg
Okay, so 50% of the guests that day are dead. Right? Right. Crazy. Ah, this show's been on too long.
Dick Toledo
That was 2009.
John Holmberg
Wasn't that long ago.
Brett
I was in a studio apartment then. 2009.
John Holmberg
Yeah, yeah, I remember. I was living on the streets. Cause we'd only been on for eight years. That's right. Brady and I were trying. We were struggling to make ends meet. We were. In fact, I forgot. Rich is right. We called George Foreman and begged him for a grill. Cause we were starving. We couldn't make ends meet at all. Eight years in. What a douchebag. That guy is, like, up and down, just miserable. I remember when cancer caught him. Remember that? For a while. And he was running around saying, ah, I got cancer. I'm like, opposite. Cancer has you, and then cancer Cured itself of Dave. And I was never happier for cancer in my life.
Brady
It's like Magic Johnson you just got rid of.
John Holmberg
It just. It just went away. But, man, when I heard it, I'm like, oh, poor, poor cancer to be afflicted with that. Oh. And then cancer said, no, I'm gonna fight it off. And he did, and it went away. Good for cancer. Proudia. Cancer. Anyway, horrible person. Just a thief and a liar and a terrible human being. I saw something on Friday. There's a certain level of celebrity, like, radio's pretty pathetic, right? Like, our. Our celebrity status is fairly embarrassing. Almost like you feel. I feel bad for anybody who is excited to meet me. I felt that way since I was a kid, but I feel pretty bad. Like, if someone's excited to see Brady, like, oh, I automatically assume you're going through something. Like, I don't think that you've got a good life going. And I appreciate it, but I really think the bar's too low for you to be like. And it happens now and again where somebody's way too happy to meet me or you or Brett. I saw something on Friday that might be worse, and yet the guy is, like, leaps and bounds, real famous by comparison. That Suns game on Friday, and a lady came over to me and said, do you know who that is in the corner? Now, she knows I do the show, so she's kind of like. And I'm like, I don't know who that is. She points in the corner, and I can't really see people running around like, who am I looking at? She was the corner. I look at him like, oh, my God, that's A.C. slater from Saved by the Bell. That's Mario Lopez. Oh, man. Seems like a hell of a nice guy. Always has, always will. But every single person saw him and went, There was no. I'm gonna go over and talk to Slater. There's like, no. I felt bad for him. He's just so. They. Everyone left him alone. Completely and utterly left him alone. Devin Booker comes into the same place a little bit later with his dad, and his dad sign an autograph just for giving the sperms out to make Devin Booker. Oh, that's all that. That dude had more everybody going, oh, my God, you're his dad. Sign my hat. Like, what for? Your sperm's made Devin Booker. And we like him a lot. Little line for sperms and autographs. Mario Lopez sat quietly, ate it. And everybody's like, eh, eh.
Brett
There's Mario with an entourage or group.
John Holmberg
Of friends, you know, sitting in the corner having dinner, showgirls.
Brady
We all seen Jessie Spano's cans, so we didn't care. All right, dude, you're not the only one anymore.
John Holmberg
Strong point that if the only person from Saved by the Bell that sat down in that booth, I'd be like, man, there's Jesse Spano. I might get closer. Yeah. Poor Mario Lopez. He sat there, host of Access Hollywood. It's been solid career for years and years and years, and every single person, I would point it out. I'm like, look over there. There's Mario Lopez. And people look at me and go. So I'm like, no, don't sell that guy's done, like, he's the one we should be rooting for. He's. He's done it right. Handsome man, fitness, you know, no skin. And that's the problem. He's just boring. He's just Mario Lopez. He's meh. And he really hasn't done anything outside of Saved by the Bell. But generationally, that should be something. You know, Zach and Cody roll into a room and people flip out. Mario Lopez should have 50 year old broads just throwing, gushing on him. Didn't. And I felt terrible for him that I had more people coming up to me going, hey, love the show, man, than I did him. Cause it's Access Hollywood. Nobody loves Access Hollywood. Everybody just knows who he is. It was sad. Dave Pratt said that he saw Mario on Friday night and remembered that when he went to Bayside high school with A.C. slater, he beat him in the state wrestling championship championship, but he still gave AC the trophy. Everybody remembers that, Dave. Just a quality individual morning sickness. Disgusting. They say things that are horrible. Holmberg's morning sickness, great stuff. But the passing of George Foreman bothered me. And I don't know why. It just. I think it's because I need. I need my celebrities to get sick first. I can't be blindsided by a death. I didn't know George was in trouble. He's 76. I mean, it can happen, but I didn't know that George had that thing. So it makes you kind of just get on. Get on edge a little bit for like, who's next? What's going on? You know, when George Foreman, the news broke, and I forget who told me, he said, george Foreman's dead. And that's how I got told that George Foreman was no longer alive. I'm like, ah, you can't do that.
Brady
Where'd he die of. I didn't read that, to be honest with you.
John Holmberg
Just being Old. I think he just had a heart attack. He was actually. People said he was sick, he was in a bed and his family knew, so I guess he wasn't doing great. But man, oh man, that one stings.
Brett
Yeah, they're not really saying no word.
John Holmberg
But I mean, if you as a fan of any sport or any human endeavor, want to take some time out of your life in the next few days and pay tribute to what is one of the most amazing things in American culture that was worldwide. Watch When We Were Kings. It's a documentary about the grumble in the jungle. Yeah, it's the, the fight in Zaire.
Brett
Had no idea. I mean, I was young when that was.
John Holmberg
Yeah, I don't think anybody knew. Well, I mean, if you were young, you knew it was a big deal. It was a, a worldwide event. It was true world fame before the Internet, before all this stuff, like these guys had achieved something that just, I mean, that was global. And you watch When We Were Kings, Ali fights Foreman. And if you knew the careers of both. And if you ever watch a documentary, there's a documentary on the CW about Joe Frazier, another guy in that mix at that time. And then the documentaries about Foreman who became a wild, you know, self destructive human being for about 10 years. And then somewhere in the 90s, invents that weird little grill and becomes America's dad and starts fighting again in his 40s and wins the championship. He like quits for 10 years, comes back, goes, I'll try again. And he beats a guy named Michael Moore and puts him out and is kind of big fat old man champion.
Brett
Old 38 year old champion.
John Holmberg
But he looked like he was 90 and then he lived it for a while. But it was proof at the time. And I always say this, that when you take 10 years off and you come back and you champ up again, something's wrong with your sport. And that's a fact that you can't be like, it makes old people happy when old people win stuff and that's it. But when an old man wins, it's like, oh, something's wrong with the sport because old people aren't supposed to win things. Dudes, dudes pushing 40, 45 shouldn't be on top of a sport that's, you know, not a seniors division. You never see that in the Olympics. He's back after a 10 year layoff, he's 41 years old. And look at him blazing past the competition. It's nuts. But something's wrong with the sport if a guy is out running or outperforming younger people. It's just not a thing. I say that on the heels of my Steelers signing Aaron Rodgers. I'm not excited about this. No one is. I don't want a 40 year old man in charge of anything.
Dick Toledo
Well, to back up your point, so the reason he was calling that morning was he was shilling away for his new website, let george clean it.com, which is no longer available. I had to find it on the Internet.
John Holmberg
Time machine didn't do well.
Dick Toledo
No.
John Holmberg
So George didn't do well. I come clean your house.
Dick Toledo
He had all kinds of cleaning products that he was offering on his. Let georgeclean it.
John Holmberg
George Foreman had his face on like Clorox bottle.
Dick Toledo
Oh, the smiling face on everything.
Brady
Dave would have only helped him.
John Holmberg
Dave probably, you know, took it all and used it without paying for it, house or home.
Dick Toledo
In 2009, Dave was only 15 years.
John Holmberg
Removed from his studio or apartment, from that tents. He's barely making it. Probably trying to scrub up that two bedroom he just got into. Crazy. Well, I'll miss that guy. I love George Foreman and that old man show that he was on with Henry Winkler and Jeff Dye and Brad Shaw. Shatner, he was the one where he walked away going, man, what a huggable and lovable man. George Foreman. He just seemed great.
Brett
He had, I saw an interview with him to read about it and he got an endorsement that Hulk Hogan passed on. And he said that endorsement, I couldn't remember the company. But he goes, at one time I was getting $8 million a month.
John Holmberg
What? Oh, and you don't remember what it.
Brett
Was like aarp, some kind of thing with that?
John Holmberg
What? That can't be right. Brady, I'm gonna go ahead and. Don't reach for your phone. You're telling stories. You gotta stick with what you say. Eight million a month, that's an awful lot of money.
Brett
Now that doesn't mean it was, you know, at one point in time he's like, I got. I was getting $8 million a month.
John Holmberg
Yeah, but that's 8 million a month. Like I just said, at one point in time if you're getting 8 million a month, that's 8 million a month no matter what point in time it is. That's a hell of a lot of money for George Foreman. But depends, I want to know.
Brett
Married five times and 12 children.
John Holmberg
And almost all the boys are named George. He's just an interesting person. You're going to have to go back and do some research on your own story because I am wildly Curious of what pays 8 million a month back in the 90s for a old boxer to give endorsement that they were going to give to Hulk Hogan in the first. What were they going to give Hulk if he was choice one? You had to fall to George Foreman afterwards. My God, Brady's right.
Brady
There was a.
John Holmberg
What was it?
Brady
Since there was months I was being paid 8 million per month. He told AARP it was an interview. I think it was. I think it was basically the.
John Holmberg
He wasn't like endorsing aarp.
Brett
No, no, no.
Brady
That was the interview.
John Holmberg
Got it. Yeah. All right. But he never. It looks like grill. No. What if it was the grill? The grill. I could imagine. So it wasn't like. Yeah, that makes.
Brady
Wasn't anything else. It was the grill.
John Holmberg
So maybe they were saying that originally the idea was to give it to Hulk Hogan. Hulk Hogan super griller. And then he took that and it was. Yes. That thing was the most successful home. I had two of them. I used to use that George Foreman griller like crazy. And then when they. They. They changed it up a little and made a better grease catcher. Because that was the big problem with Foreman Griller. It ran downhill and all that gunk came out of there. Cleaning. It sucked.
Brett
In baseball clubhouses and the major league baseball griller.
Brady
Any single dude with a studio apartment.
John Holmberg
Dave Pratt.
Brady
Yeah, exactly.
John Holmberg
It was. Yeah. If you. If you grew up in the 90s, you had a grill. If you were in college in the 90s at all, you had at least one grill. I. I wish. Do they still sell them? Just thinking about it. I buy one, then they did the double. Oh, and the two. You could shut one double cook it. So it wasn't. Oh, it was amazing. What an invention. And so simple. And one of the best episodes.
Brett
Never owned one.
John Holmberg
You never had a Georgia probably look down.
Brady
Un American.
John Holmberg
You probably looked down on it, didn't you? It was. It was. Yeah. You didn't think it could possibly. I'm telling you what. What you did.
Brett
We had so many grilling options.
John Holmberg
You cheated yourself.
Brett
I did indoor grilling the first time I had one. A burger made.
John Holmberg
Oh, that's not a Foreman griller.
Brett
Wow. That does a great job.
John Holmberg
Well, it's just hot. I mean, everything does a great job to cook.
Brett
It's a panini press for hamburger.
John Holmberg
It was. And then he had the. Oh, damn it all. What an invention. Indoor grilling. I'm surprised you. I'm surprised you weren't all this. What a fantastic thing.
Brady
35 bucks.
John Holmberg
And for some reason, I don't have one. But you know what? Today they're only $35.
Brady
Yeah, that's the four serving version, too.
John Holmberg
Add to cart.
Brady
Oh, here's one. You can wash in the dishwasher.
John Holmberg
They came.
Brady
They upgraded fully. Submersible.
Brett
That's what you want.
John Holmberg
Add that to cart.
Brady
50 bucks.
John Holmberg
What do you mean? You unplug it and stuff it in the dishwasher. The whole thing?
Brady
Yeah.
John Holmberg
Oh, my. Oh, no. You take pieces still the griddles.
Brady
That's all that matters, though.
John Holmberg
That's. Yeah, I'm not talking. Oh, my God. Add to cart.
Brady
Vertical storage, everything.
John Holmberg
Made it like a PlayStation 3.
Brady
Look at that.
John Holmberg
It was. It was a. It was horizontal storage before.
Brady
Very clumsy serving version, too.
John Holmberg
What?
Brady
A five serving version. Two.
John Holmberg
Five servings.
Brett
Give them the five.
John Holmberg
I could have guests.
Brett
That's for the five marriages.
John Holmberg
Add to cart.
Brady
Adjustable temperature. Man, this thing. This thing got high tech all of a sudden.
John Holmberg
All mine was. Was on or off.
Brady
That's it.
John Holmberg
Yeah. Hot. Not hot. Don't touch. Touch. Oh, it was great. You never had to put butter on.
Brett
You know what? Two of those, Brad.
John Holmberg
Two of them. Add two to cart. Can't get enough.
Brady
Break Brady down. He's gonna get one finally.
John Holmberg
And then. And then what? You know what we'll do? We'll pour the grease up for our homie. We're gonna put it in a cup and pour it out outside for our man George Love Geor. All of those dudes are dead. And half of that show we did the day George Foreman was on is dead. That's a good story. That's better than Pratt's lie. Ralphie May was here, dead. George Foreman was here, dead. Same day Chris Jericho. They come in threes, my friend. It's either you or Kelly. Kelly. And also that was the day that Chris Jericho, wrestling superstar, brought that gorgeous girl Kelly Kelly in and then had to run to the bathroom to talk to his wife. And people overheard him.
Brett
Well, I went to the bathroom.
John Holmberg
Oh, that was you?
Brady
Yeah, yeah.
John Holmberg
Whispering and stuff. That things that. This isn't what it seems and it might leak out. And they were. Yeah, he was boning Kelly. Kelly. We asked him and they kind of laughed like something's going on here. And obviously they had just finished sperms in each other and they came in a little bit post coital, you know, Nothing came of it. I think it was on a couple of websites. Well, but some. A couple of websites popped up later that said on a radio show in Phoenix, this. And this. And this happened. I was one of our listeners that's into wrestling. Fired off all the information to some wrestling blog back in 2009 when we didn't know what the hell we were doing. Crazy. What a show that. What a show that was. I'm telling you right now. I guarantee you. Go back and listen. It's clumsy if I got that many guests in a room.
Brady
With Ralphie too.
John Holmberg
Ralph. I don't know if Ralphie stayed. Ralphie was here. Ralphie stuck around.
Brady
So Toledo was saying, I don't know.
John Holmberg
Yeah, he was here the whole day. I remember Ralphie and Chris Jericho. I don't remember George Foreman on the phone with Ralphie. Chris Jericho and Kelly. Kelly. Unless they left already. And then Ralphie and Georgian. They're dead now.
Brady
You've always had the weirdest combos for interviews. I mean, like, man, Jericho and Foreman.
John Holmberg
Want to know a weirder one. And Batista. Batista and Bob Saget.
Brady
Well, I remember the Jesse James Dupree and Maynard.
John Holmberg
Maynard Tools. Tools. And that was one of my favorites because that was when Jesse James Dupree was. He's the lead singer of something called Jackal. And he was so uncomfortable with me and Maynard kind of arguing because I told Maynard I just didn't want to tolerate his that day because the guy from Jackal was so much fun. How. How did you make it so bad that I want the dude from Jackal to talk more?
Dick Toledo
How so you turned the show over to Jericho that morning?
John Holmberg
Oh, I did.
Dick Toledo
Chris Jericho show.
John Holmberg
Oh, fantastic.
Dick Toledo
You let him kind of lead for an hour.
John Holmberg
Kind of a fear based. You do it. I'm scared of this whole mess. There's too many people in here. And he did a nice job. So he. Did he interview Foreman with you?
Dick Toledo
Yeah.
John Holmberg
Fantastic. I'm a genius.
Dick Toledo
And Ralphie too.
John Holmberg
We should have turned it over to Ralphie to talk about that grill. He grilled everything. I'm sure. I'm sure Ralphie's house looked like a. You know, one of those guys that's.
Brett
There's one in every room.
John Holmberg
He's just spinning Foreman grills.
Brady
Oh, man. They have a smokeless version of the grill now too. What's that? 85% less smoke from the George Foreman grill.
John Holmberg
How. I don't know what will AI.
Brett
How much that.
Brady
It's actually on sale. 51% off. 40 bucks. Touch display and everything they got.
John Holmberg
It's like a printer. Oh, George Foreman, how I'm gonna miss you. Wow, that dude's got asparagus on there. I know, Brady, seems like a crime to you, but that looks delicious. Dude putting greens on it. He's ruining it.
Dick Toledo
40 bucks.
John Holmberg
Yeah.
Brady
The price is 1% off right now.
Dick Toledo
That's a bargain.
John Holmberg
It's half off. It's only $20.
Brady
No, it's 40.
John Holmberg
40 after the discount.
Brady
Yeah.
John Holmberg
Everybody. In honor of George's passing and all he gave us, I mean, again, when we were kings. Watch that thing. Try not to be entertained. I dare you. Holmberg's morning sickness. Disgusting. They say things that are horrible. Holmberg's morning sickness.
Dick Toledo
Does somebody take over for the griller?
John Holmberg
Yeah. George Foreman iii. Oh, he's got a whole bunch of them. There's. There's five of them. Yeah. And then he's got Georgina and Georgette, his daughters. Not all of them. Not all the girls got George, but all the boys were named George. 1, 2, 3, 4, 5.
Brett
Yeah, and one Georgetta.
John Holmberg
Yeah, and a Georgetta. And I think he had a Georgina and then like a Vivian. And he had like normal names.
Dick Toledo
But I saw his explanation last night. You get punched in the head a bunch of times. You name them all for simplicity.
John Holmberg
He became funny and cute. And he was a drunk, a mean drunk for like a while.
Dick Toledo
Well, you're saying that cleaned his life. Rumble in the Jungle was him exercising some demons.
John Holmberg
He's, well, constantly exercising demons. The dude was. It was just a.
Brett
We're taking with Ali Boomaye.
John Holmberg
They had to. This is a truth. And this is. This was what. When you're around boxing a lot, every gym has that. Go ahead and try to break this brand new heavy bag. They had to have extra heavy bags around for George Foreman because he could break a heavy bag the first day. I have the same heavy bag at my house that I've had for about 18 years. Showing a little wear and tear finally. Well, it took some time and sometimes it fights back because it's been hanging so long. The bottom end of it's heavier than the top. And I'll throw like a low punch at it and my whole arm feels like it's gonna just blow up because the bag hurts. He broke those. He was just a skeleton crushing mammoth machine of man. And a sports hero. Like an American sports hero. And then American figure. That was generationally like, it was ridiculous. So we lost a big one there Friday. That was big. And Anthony at the rah rah room turned to me. George Foreman's dead. Like, hey, you know, ease in. When are you throwing that out there? So there's that. I also, on the way to the Suns game, had a meth out nut bag, homeless guy come Walk right up to me as I was waiting for my friend Marty Ona. He was walking towards me and I was outside waiting, told him where to meet. And I'm standing there waiting and this dude walks right up to me and tells me something about a lady named Sarah who is definitely looking for me and she's planning on killing me and she's going to eat all of my organs. And he was within an inch of me and I was ready to go. I was ready to, in front of everybody, kill a man. It was very close. This was an intimidating moment. Stepped away. I've never smelled anything as bad as this and I've never seen anything as bad as this zombie nation lives. This, this human being wasn't human. You know in like sci fi movies when the zombies come at you, that was it. I don't think I've ever been that face to face with a meth doubt loon, ever. It's horrifying, Horrifying. And he got a little close and I got my hands up and ready to, you know, another step and I'm going to push off. I'm going to get you away from me here. And I have to, it was, he was so, it was so gross. So gross. So I did not kill, but I'm this close to having been. I almost murdered someone and it was in my brain to go, I'm going to have to kill this person. But if the Sarah held off coming from my organs. Oh my God. I've, I've never. He's walking. I have a little film of him walking towards me and he's just, and then he sees me and I hear, what up, brother? And I'm like, oh boy. And then he just stops. And as he started to kind of approach, I think he saw that I was like in a. I'm gonna kick you in the chest posture. One more step and he would have caught one. And, and I'm telling you, man, the smell, everything else. I immediately went back and canceled all the water for the summer. For these people. They don't need it. We need to get rid of them. I, I, I'm good. That's fine. I don't think I want to give anything to the homeless anymore. I think I'm done with it.
Brett
I, I, you should have took him to the game.
John Holmberg
It was like, yeah, down in the Rah rah. It was life altering to sit back and go, I'm not helping these people anymore. The ones that are normal will find help. This guy, there's, he's gone. He Gone. We don't have to worry about this cat anymore. I don't. I don't imagine ever him being in a room interviewing for a gig. This is going to go. This was going the wrong way. So I think, Brett, here's what we'll do this year for the. The summer water drive. We'll. We'll get it first. You won't have to go out. We'll get it all here first, and then you and I'll just drive around and pick and choose who we give it to.
Brady
Hey, I like that idea.
John Holmberg
Like, I don't. That guy's finished. I want to start kind of a bougie members only homeless guy club. You know, he gets the problem. He gets the. I don't. You know, you stand and I'm just kind of assess you almost like a credit check for the homeless. It has to be at least one. And then, you know, just run a credit karma on you, ask a couple of questions. No bottle for you. Next I'd be the water Nazi. Yeah, yeah, just give me some damage on you. What's your history?
Brett
How many accidents?
John Holmberg
You come up to me with what he did, and I'm like, nah, help's long gone. I don't want to not be a humanitarian, but at a certain point, point you just walk until the sun bakes you. Because I. I'm. That was. Nobody needs to deal with that. And I know there'll be people going, oh, where's your heart? I'm like, ah, yeah, no thanks. I give to the ones who want to help themselves. All we're doing with that is sustaining that nut bag for going up to anybody else, telling them. And then, you know what? Why should I want to help somebody who knows a person who wants to cook and eat my organs?
Brett
And why roll Sarah under the bus?
John Holmberg
Who's this Sarah? And how. How adept is she at carving out my organs and eating them? Because that was the message. I was standing in front of the Palomar Hotel, just waiting, and this dude lost it. And you know what was worse? Like, none of the valet guys cared. Like, I was just kind of like, that'll happen. Suns game. People just walking into this, keeping out of this one day in life. Just basically what it was, was a dickhead roulette. And I won that day. He chose me and everybody else. Like, oh, thank God the bald guy's got to deal with it. And, you know, I kind of did. I'll help you. I want people to be okay. But this whole blanket for everybody thing, I think maybe we need to reassess this. I'll call the Phoenix Rescue Mission this summer and say I had a couple of run ins. Can I run the velvet rope at your place for a little while? So you don't want to help everybody? No, I don't. I. I have to be honest with you. I think you're doing great work down here, but I think you're pick and choose and let a few of these fall off. But people will die. Yeah, it happens. Everybody. You know, George Foreman's gone.
Brett
The Phoenix rescue mission. Studio 54.
John Holmberg
Yeah, I like that. And the club. And there's a downstairs for, like, really good water. Like pan. That's where you're telling me sparkling or still? Oh, well, it's almost paid to be homeless. I want people who want to help themselves. And that is. It's kind of a grand statement to just say, okay, water for all of them. Not that one. And not that lady who touched my car a couple of weeks ago, walked up and just put that sign up against the window. She gets no water for her either. Brett. Let's be judgy philanthropists.
Brett
How about that?
John Holmberg
That's never been a thing. I'm not gonna include Brady on this because he caved. But Brett and John's judgy philanthropy, we drive around and a car filled with prizes for the homeless, and we assess him like, how you doing? And he goes, hey, man, I'm just trying to make ends meet him. Really? Water. Here's some stuff. You go crazy. And then the next guy's like, I got leeches all over my body. Well, you're gonna die in the. Brett and John's judgy philanthropy is a very real thing.
Brady
Oh, I look forward to Thursday mornings now.
John Holmberg
It's almost like doge. We're going to go to the ones who are wasting it. We're going to doge the homeless. I want to help, but I want to help people that can be helped. There's a certain part where you're just too far gone.
Brett
Have a plane for him. Get on the plane.
John Holmberg
Yeah, move them to a country where that stuff's good. Home landia or unhomelandia. Look, I feel bad for what's going on in your life, but we've hit a level here where there's no turning back. So you know what we're going to do, Brad, with our judgy philanthropy?
Brady
What's up?
John Holmberg
We'll have bags of fentanyl as well, and I'll go. All right, you choose Fentanyl. Delicious water.
Brady
Was this the Matrix now.
John Holmberg
Yeah, yeah. Basically it'll be Morpheus in my left hand.
Brett
You're going to be left with a lot of water.
John Holmberg
That's right. And you know what? It'll go to the right people. And then the news will be grudgingly say, the Bretton John judgy philanthropist has solved homelessness. Everybody got water that deserved water and all the meth heads got there. That's a good idea. We got all this. I got cop friends. We got all this. Seized fentanyl. Let's go out with bags of it and say you choose what's in the right hand and I will open the hole. I'll take the fentanyl. All right. See you later. Bye.
Brett
Now, let's make a deal.
John Holmberg
Yeah.
Brett
Door number one.
John Holmberg
Yeah, you can fish. Well, one has fentanyl. No, I want them to know the choices. I don't want them to get water and then waste it. And then I. I don't want them to think that when they didn't choose, like, let's see what you missed behind door number two. Oh, bags and bags of fentanyl. And they're like, oh, I got water. Like, okay, never mind.
Brady
We're supposed to do with this.
John Holmberg
Judgy philanthropy is a good idea. We're here to help, but only if you want it.
Brady
Luke from my account will be happy. It's a lot easier picking up some fentanyl than those cases of water.
John Holmberg
He's gonna be thrilled. Harder to get. It's so easy to get all that water. It's a tough load. Yeah, that's a great idea, Brett. We're gonna do that. Brett will be on top of the car with a bullhorn like he's running for something in the 1950s. Return to me. I'm Brett Presley with judgy philanthropy. Who wants fentanyl and who wants water? Fentanyl to the left, water to the right. Ok, you spinning in the center. You're getting nothing today. Yeah, that's it. Judgy philanthropy. I think that's a great idea like that. Yeah, because all these people going out, giving all this hard earned money and stuff, donating to our causes, and then we hand it over to that dude. Wouldn't that be ironic if that guy's only alive because he was got just enough water a couple of times through our water drive to save him and then he and Sarah come and cook my organs. Oh, the circle of death. In a bitter twist of irony, it's kind of like saving Private Ryan. The guy that you should have killed comes back and gets you.
Brett
Tough scene.
John Holmberg
I got fentanyl, I got crack, I got water. Which one do you want? Oh, man. Well, the water's out. You know which one I want. It's like playing Mary F. Kill with Lizzo. You know, you want her dead. Fentanyl or meth. And also water. Yeah, I heard you. I heard you. Fentanyl, meth, and the other thing. Water. Nope. Yep, I know. I'm familiar with it. You know, I just get water out of puddles. Like, that's true. It's hard to get a free bag of Fentanyl. I think I'm gonna go with fentanyl. All right.
Brett
See ya later.
John Holmberg
And in the end, we're just trying to make people happy. And he's happy, so we do. That's right. Next thing you know, Brett and I are in Trump's office with Elon Musk. How did you guys solve the homeless problem in Phoenix? I think you're gonna like this. We gave him fentanyl. Oh, brilliant. Just get rid of them. Just kept. They had to go.
Brady
You're hired.
John Holmberg
They had to go. The worst of the worst. Let's get a wake up song and find out what today holds for us. 585-9800. A good one. We'll scream it together. It's 98 KUPD on its most powerful rocket. It's out of control now. 98 K U P T.
Podcast Summary: Holmberg's Morning Sickness - Arizona
Episode: March 24, 2025
Host: John Holmberg
Co-Hosts: Brady Bogen, Brett Vesely, Dick Toledo
Broadcasted On: 98 KUPD | Hubbard Radio
The episode kicks off with John Holmberg welcoming listeners to Monday’s show at 5:45 AM. He reflects on the chaotic weekend, highlighting incidents from the NHRA drag races and receiving an email about Ron Capps’ car explosion.
John Holmberg [00:48]: "Like it or not, we're still. What a weekend. Crazy stuff."
John discusses the incident involving Ron Capps at the NHRA drag races, where Capps allegedly blew up his car after being confronted on the show. Brett and Brady weigh in, expressing mixed feelings about Capps’ performance and longevity in the sport.
John Holmberg [01:30]: "If I was him, I don't want this to be the case. I wouldn't come here anymore."
A significant portion of the episode revolves around Dave Pratt’s dubious eulogy for the late George Foreman. John criticizes Pratt’s credibility and recounts Pratt’s unethical behavior, including lying about his relationship with Foreman.
John Holmberg [04:40]: "Pratt puts out this eulogy, he can't help himself. It's a dead man, for crying out loud."
John reminisces about having George Foreman on the show and laments Pratt’s misrepresentation.
John Holmberg [06:07]: "He was promoting something and it was funny. He was very funny."
John shares stories from past guest appearances, including George Foreman’s interactive moments on the show. He also touches upon interactions with other celebrities like Chris Jericho and Kelly Kelly, emphasizing the unique and often bizarre combinations of guests.
John Holmberg [08:04]: "We had Chris Jericho in studio. We had Kelly Kelly in studio. We had Ralphie too."
The discussion shifts to George Foreman’s multifaceted life—from his boxing career to inventing the George Foreman Grill. John provides a historical overview of Foreman’s achievements and his transformation into a beloved public figure.
John Holmberg [14:15]: "Ali fights Foreman. ... He invents that weird little grill and becomes America's dad and starts fighting again in his 40s and wins the championship."
Brady and Brett join in a humorous banter about the evolution of the grill’s design and functionality.
Brady [21:03]: "Now, they're only $35."
A dramatic turn occurs when John recounts a frightening encounter with a homeless individual on his way to a Suns game. The man, under the influence, threatened to kill him and consume his organs, pushing John to the brink of violence.
John Holmberg [28:16]: "He was within an inch of me and I was ready to go ... I almost murdered someone."
This incident prompts a discussion among the hosts about the challenges of dealing with homelessness and the limits of traditional philanthropy.
In response to his troubling encounter, John proposes a controversial idea dubbed “judgy philanthropy,” where assistance is selectively given to homeless individuals based on certain criteria.
John Holmberg [31:07]: "Brett and John's judgy philanthropy is a very real thing."
The hosts engage in satirical dialogue about implementing a system that differentiates between who deserves help and who doesn’t, culminating in a humorous yet dark suggestion involving fentanyl distribution.
John Holmberg [35:14]: "We'll have bags of fentanyl as well, and I'll go."
As the show wraps up, John reflects on the complexities of fame, the impact of George Foreman’s death, and the ongoing struggles with societal issues like homelessness and substance abuse. The hosts maintain a blend of humor and seriousness, staying true to the show's eclectic and provocative nature.
John Holmberg [38:39]: "How did you guys solve the homeless problem in Phoenix? I think you're gonna like this. We gave him fentanyl."
The episode concludes with a playful nod to the station’s energy and a teaser for future discussions.
Notable Quotes:
John Holmberg [06:07]: "He abdicated his life and became a recluse through the 80s."
John Holmberg [14:15]: "When you take 10 years off and you come back and you champ up again, something's wrong with your sport."
John Holmberg [27:03]: "And I'm telling you, man, the smell, everything else. I immediately went back and canceled all the water for the summer."
John Holmberg [35:14]: "Judgy philanthropy is a good idea. We're here to help, but only if you want it."
Conclusion: This episode of "Holmberg's Morning Sickness" traverses a spectrum of topics, from high-profile celebrity mishaps and legendary figures like George Foreman to gritty real-life encounters and provocative social commentary. The hosts blend humor, critique, and personal anecdotes to engage listeners, offering a raw and unfiltered glimpse into their perspectives on current events and personal experiences.