04-15-25 - Listener Suggests 'Judge On The Spectrum' As The Most Honest Legal Show - AZ Game/Fish Issues Fox Rabies Warning - Tipping Our Cap 16 Years Later To Octomom For Raising 14 Seemingly Stable Kids

Summary

Holmberg's Morning Sickness - Arizona

Episode Release Date: April 15, 2025
Host: John Holmberg
Co-hosts: Brady Bogen, Bret Vesely, Dick Toledo

Episode Title:
Listener Suggests 'Judge On The Spectrum' As The Most Honest Legal Show - AZ Game/Fish Issues Fox Rabies Warning - Tipping Our Cap 16 Years Later To Octomom For Raising 14 Seemingly Stable Kids

---

1. Navigating Judgment in the Workplace

The episode kicks off with a discussion about handling unusual behavior in the workplace without jumping to conclusions. John Holmberg emphasizes the importance of not categorizing individuals based on preconceived notions, stating, "He's not a right-wing nut bag. He's just an all-around nut bag" ([01:25]).

Notable Quote:

"We can't put him in a camp. More media outlets were like you. I think we'd be much better off right down the middle and call it like you see it." – John Holmberg ([01:35])

This segment underscores the need for empathy and open-mindedness when dealing with colleagues who exhibit unconventional behavior, advocating for a balanced and fair approach.

2. Addressing Colleague Behavior: The Case of 'Thriller'

The conversation shifts to a colleague nicknamed 'Thriller,' who exhibits erratic behavior. The hosts discuss strategies to integrate and manage such individuals, highlighting that inclusion can mitigate aggressive tendencies. Michael remarks, "We’ve judged him. We're making fun of him for what he obviously knows he has. He knows it's all in good fun. He's part of something now, whereas before he was an outcast and rightfully so" ([06:27]).

Notable Quote:

"We tell Thriller, you might be crazy. He knows that we're looking at him going, you are nuts. So any sort of twitch that he comes in with, we're gonna put a stop to it because we've been open with him." – Michael ([06:27])

This segment highlights the balance between addressing concerning behavior and fostering an inclusive environment.

3. Introducing 'Justice on The Spectrum'

A significant portion of the episode is dedicated to brainstorming a new legal show concept titled 'Justice on The Spectrum.' The hosts envision a show featuring judges on the autism spectrum, aiming to bring honesty and unique perspectives to legal proceedings. Michael shares, "Ryan, I think we're inventing something. Justice on the spectrum, it doesn't count legally, but the judge is one of the people from 'Love on the Spectrum'" ([07:13]).

Notable Quote:

"Judge Ryan Weber, you and I, through email, have become co-executive producers of maybe the greatest idea of all time." – Michael ([07:15])

The discussion explores how individuals on the spectrum could offer unfiltered honesty and straightforward judgments, contrasting traditional judicial styles.

4. AZ Game/Fish Issues: Fox Rabies Warning

The hosts address a pressing local issue: the Arizona Game and Fish Department's rabies warning concerning foxes. Michael and Brady discuss recent reports of rabies cases in fox populations, advising listeners to avoid contact with foxes showing abnormal or aggressive behavior to prevent potential transmission.

Notable Quote:

"Officials are warning residents after rabies case under Arizona line. Stop touching the foxes. They're coming up to you because they're unafraid of you." – Michael ([20:56])

This segment provides crucial public health information, stressing the importance of safety and awareness regarding wildlife interactions.

5. Reflecting on Octomom's Journey: 16 Years Later

In a heartfelt segment, the hosts revisit the story of 'Octomom,' who became infamous for having eight children. Sixteen years later, she has expanded her family to fourteen seemingly stable kids. The hosts commend her resilience and the well-adjusted nature of her children, challenging earlier societal judgments.

Notable Quote:

"She's now got six kids that, on the surface, at the very least, kind of have their crap together. She's doing a show now going, look at them now." – Michael ([28:24])

This reflection serves as a testament to personal growth and the positive outcomes that can emerge from previously stigmatized situations.

6. Community Engagement and Final Thoughts

The episode concludes with the hosts acknowledging listener contributions and encouraging a culture of empathy and support. They emphasize the importance of understanding and giving credit where it's due, wrapping up the discussions with a positive note on overcoming judgments and societal pressures.

---

Summary:
In this episode of Holmberg's Morning Sickness - Arizona, the hosts tackle a range of topics from handling unconventional behavior in the workplace to proposing innovative ideas for a new legal show. They provide essential public health information regarding rabies in foxes, and offer a compassionate look at Octomom's life 16 years later, highlighting themes of empathy, inclusion, and resilience. Throughout the episode, notable quotes and engaging discussions ensure that listeners gain valuable insights and a deeper understanding of the issues presented.

Transcript

[John Holmberg]

You're listening to the HMS podcast brought to you by mmpguns.com, your most trusted online marketplace for firearms, ammunition and accessories.

[Byron]

It's May and Tombstone Tactical is turning up the heat with unbeatable deals on Sig and Springfield firearms all month long. Grab a 9mm Springfield starting at just $279.99 or take home a Sig pistol starting at only $369.99. Whether you're upgrading your carry gun or adding to the collection, now's the time to buy. But these prices won't last forever. So swing by Tombstone Tactical and save big before May ends. For full info and store location, hit up tombstone tactical.com it's John Holmer here.

[Michael]

Chilling away for my friends at New Vision Auto Glass. My friend just hit a bird in his truck. Well actually the bird hit his truck, but it hit so hard that the windshield broke. New Vision Autoglass has a warehouse right here in town, so sometimes you can actually get the work done the same day you call. And not only that, you know they're going to give you up to $375 cash back. Go to new vision autoglass.com answer a few questions, find out how much you qualify. If you've got a broken windshield, at least get the feathers off and then call 480-210-9090 New Vision Auto Glass, proud sponsor of the Arizona Diamondbacks. Still streaming Homberg's Morning Sickness online at 98kupd.com Ah thank you Miles to know or Katie and the Hobbs with our theme song this morning. As you cruise right into your job, a lot of people pointing out their coworkers, says John. The reason they don't want to rush to judgment about this nut bag you were talking about. It's because he's not a right wing nut bag. He's just an all around nut bag. Nobody knows who to blame. That's an excellent point. We can't put him in a camp. More media outlets were like you. I think we'd be much better off right down the middle and call it like you see it. That's right Michael, more people like me. That's what the world needs. Yeah, this dude was also screaming he was a socialist. You look like the way that guy looked walking around living in your parents basement and saying I'm a socialist back in the olden days when America was great. Back in the you'd get a nice self hugging coat for that kind of behavior. Here, put this on, wrap your arms around yourself. You're an anti American lunatic who's decided to look like the way you look. Yeah. We're going to put you away for a couple hours.

[John Holmberg]

Bernie Sanders ain't gonna like hearing that.

[Michael]

No. And people think Bernie's nuts, but if you. If he shaved his head and grew a ZZ Top beard, we're like, okay, Bernie's off the rails. Something bad's about to happen. I decided to go bananas. Give me some alone. I'm not really a socialist, but I am sort of, so. I'm socialite. I'm a socialite. Yeah. I don't. Yeah, you can't do that. You can't. Back in the old days, you start screaming, I'm a socialist. Be a group of people at your front door. Back when things were good, when we rushed to judgment, you know, people are like, what's going on with all these crazies? The crazies are everywhere because they're allowed to be. You start screaming at work that you're a socialist and show up in jean shorts and a T shirt looking like azz top and nobody allowed to say anything. Guess what says, what's funny is they don't profile this guy and they let him roam around John and say what you said. We can't rush to judgment. But remember last year when those people were protesting meat or something stupid and they did it at NBA games and they'd run onto the court and glue themselves to the ground and they got away with it twice. By that next game, those people were being tackled before they even got to the sideline. How'd that happen? Because they got prejudged and identified that they were the ones there to up the game. Exactly. You see a couple people, like, that's the look of the person we're. We're eyeballing here. People's in these weird 1800s dresses with some Elmer's glue on their hands, knock them down. Secret Service is supposed to judge. Nobody ever says, well, the Secret Service is so judgy. Yeah. Because we know it works most of the time. I said, here's the thing, though. Sometimes. Sometimes it's the one you suspect the least that ends up being the crazy person. I know who you need to be worried about Thriller. He's starting to sound a little more unhinged every time he comes on your show. Who knows? He could be one more women's college softball game on the radio. From limping down the hall with a sawed off, slowly hopping from office to office, taking on his frustrations with every nickname he's been called. Old Hopalong is gonna get payback. Look, we tell Thriller, you might be crazy. He knows that we're looking at him going, you are nuts. So any sort of twitch that he comes in with, we're gonna put a stop to it because we've been open with him. Think about that. Thriller's a great example here. Thriller walks around here before we were talking to him, Brett's home, walk to his car, out the window with his limp. And all he did, and all I needed him to do as I looked out the window with him was go. And I'm like, I get it. It was immediate. And that was right after I had my hip surgery. So I was limping in the hallway too. And you don't know how hard I was trying not to limp in front of him. Like, I was teasing him because I don't want him to go crazy when you hit the do, do, do, do, do and called him Thriller. It was over. And you didn't have to explain it. And no one was like, what are you. What are you doing? We didn't know Thriller worked here for almost a decade. No one talked to him. No one talked to him. We knew he was around the building. You didn't know his name. Because we weren't sure how to approach the stuff. And he was far enough down the hall that we didn't really have to deal with it.

[Brady]

That's true with everything down the hall.

[Michael]

Well, he's a kdkb. We have to deal with the sports station. But look, look, look what we missed out on. And also, we've probably stopped his murderous thoughts by including him into something fun. Turns out Thriller's pretty great. He has some moments where you're like, all right. That's why people think you're gonna blow up the building someday.

[John Holmberg]

Like the Anime Girl that Doesn't Exist concert that he wants to go to.

[Michael]

That kind of stuff. And, you know, cares too much, pays bills with plasma. And these are the warning signs to say Kyle's not wrong. Thriller is definitely on the list. But look what we've done. We've judged him. We're making fun of him for what he obviously knows he has. He knows it's all in good fun. He's part of something now, whereas before he was an outcast and rightfully so. He's damaged goods. But he comes down the hall, and now he's, like, participating. And occasionally, because he hasn't been socialized well, like a puppy, he says stuff. It's like, no, can't do that. There's people listening. Can't. You can think those things, but that's your outside voice there, Thriller. I know. I just wanted to let you know that that mangled cat wasn't me. We didn't even know about the mangled cat. Now I suspect you.

[Brady]

What are you doing this weekend? Hanging out with my grandpa.

[Michael]

Exactly. Yep. What do you guys do? Talk about socialism. See, they're right there. We got to call you out. Guess I'm going to blow anything up. Are you? No. Then you'd have to call grandpa. Go. They're onto us. We can't do the blowing up thing. Judge Ryan Weber, you and I, through email, have become co executive producers of maybe the greatest idea of all time. Now, you remember last year during the election cycle, I said I wanted all down syndrome politicians. I want all politicians to have down syndrome because they're nicer, at least heavy on the spectrum. They. They don't glom everything up with detail. They don't overthink, just. And then when things aren't going well, they just need a hug. And you can't. You can't be too angry.

[Brady]

Proposed bills would be one sheet.

[Michael]

One sheet within crayon. Seems to make sort of some sense, but it's not legalese. It's like, hey, why can't we just do this? Some of it's logical. Ryan, you came up, said they need to have judges with down syndrome. They don't have a filter. They just go, oh, bad man, bad man. And that's all they would do. So I emailed back, I'm like, oh, my God, Ryan, I think we're inventing something. Justice on the spectrum, it doesn't count legally, but the judge is one of the people from love on the spectrum. Tanner James. One of those. I believe you have a major problem with the way you've dealt with this. Like, oh, my God, James is right. He's insane. Oh, it has bothered me greatly what you have told me just now. Me think you a brute. And that's all you have. Like this. This judge is dead on. People watching love on the spectrum right now, losing their minds. If cop a feel I must, and cop a feel, I shall. What's he talking about? The judge has gone crazy. But if you have a regular judge watching on a screen in another room and a justice on the spectrum, methinks you are guilty of terrible things. You're a bad man. You'd be like, man, the kid on the spectrum nailed it. And they don't have a filter. They say stuff James on Love on the Spectrum was on a date with a girl, and she was a bit goth, kind of witchy, and said something to him. She took a picture and she goes, I look like a vampire. Nuts. He was the crazy one. He goes, you don't look much like a vampire, but I would say you probably do very well on Halloween. This was her normal everyday look. She wasn't in a costume, and he just called it as he saw it. And then while she's talking, he goes, I have to interrupt you real quick. You have food on your incisor. And it's. I can't. It's not good. And she goes, did I get it? It's discolored. It may not be food. I believe you might have a cavity. I'm like, oh, my God. This dude's just saying it should probably visit a dentist because, okay, I'll try to get around it. On a date, he's telling this girl, that tooth is killing me. Whatever you got going on there, I'm gonna get around it, but trust me, it's on my mind. And he says it. And that's what justice on the Spectrum would be. Ryan immediately contacts him. Oh, we got Brandon Lee coming in later today. I'll see if I can get him. He does TV and movies and stuff. We'll have Brandon come in. Justice on the Spectrum. And then we'll have. My favorite one is Connor. Connor, he's just the kindest you can show. If you pulled a dollar out of your pocket, he would look at like everything is bad. Acting like it's in high school, they go, cut. All right, you're overdoing it. Nobody reacts to stuff this way.

[John Holmberg]

Hey, Byron, I was [e-mail]'s website. You have everything, and the prices are incredible.

[Toledo]

Yes, sir. Mmpguns.com has over 400,000 products for sale daily. Everything from firearms, ammunition, accessories, optics, clothing, decoys, and more. The best part is if you see on our website, it's in stock and ready to ship.

[John Holmberg]

Wait, there's no back orders?

[Toledo]

Nope. We work with all our distributors, so what you see on our site is what's actually available. We ship all over the country, so we're not just for Arizonans anymore. If the firearm you want is legal in your state, we can get it to a dealer for you to pick up.

[John Holmberg]

Sounds simple. That's why I always go to MMP. Guns.com.

[Michael]

It'S John Holmberg here. Time to talk about TV's Doug Hopkins of My Home Group and Doug Hopkins.com TV's Doug Hopkins. He has built and established his brand and company in a way that just has no competition. Doug's been here for a long time. He set the Standard for over 25 years and he just keeps getting better. And that said, if you want to sell your house for cash to Doug as is, he'll make you that offer. Start the process online. Doughopkins.com or listen to the Doug Hopkins singers. It's John Holmberg here seeing clear as a bell. Thanks to my friends at the Schwartz Laser Eye Center. Good vision. It's imperative all the pro ball players in Town Trust Dr. Jay Schwartz. And so do I. My experience, I went from seeing 2400 back to close to 2020 after my complimentary consultation with Dr. Schwartz. He put a plan plan together and got me seeing beautifully, clearly and vividly. You can do it too. Get rid of those glasses or contacts and get your consultation with Dr. Schwartz now. Go to schwartzlaser.com or call 480-483-Eyes Suns and Diamondbacks. Trust them. So should you go with the pros? Go Schwartz Laser Eye Center. Holmberg's morning sickness. The one girl started to sing a song from the wizard of Oz. Those aren't the words at all, but I'll let you get away with it. They say everything justice on the spectrum needs to happen immediately. And then you have a real judge sitting in the corner going, right, this can't hold up in court. But at least the dude who's being, you know, Judge Judy's great.

[Brady]

It's their decision.

[Michael]

We exactly agree to it. If you agree to go on Judge Judy, it's technically a legal thing. But why do we love Judge Judy? Because she looks at people and goes, you can't read. Like she, she tells people they're stupid when they're stupid. She says stupid is stupid out loud. Which is what we don't do. Justice on the spectrum. Get those same spectrum kids that I've fallen in love with on that show. Put them in robes.

[Brady]

The dumb dumb.

[Michael]

Oh, my God, Ryan, I'm, I'm gonna quit the show today and I'm gonna go, I'm gonna put all my energy and money into justice on the spectrum. It's a judge show. People love judge shows.

[Brady]

Doug Llewellyn on Spectrum interviewing and oh.

[Michael]

Yeah, you could get one of the, the lesser cat. Like, well, his name would be, what is it? A Dan. He's the one that talks a little like. So you were told that you were guilty and you feel probably very badly about this and then right in the middle of the person. Well, yeah, but I didn't think the judge had anyone. He would go, all right, knucklehead, what's going on? Movie. They do a scene from the Three Stooges out of nowhere, for no reason whatsoever. And we're just right back to conversation.

[Brady]

Number one show.

[Michael]

It would be the best show in television history. Justice on the spectrum. And I'm talking like, I don't want any of these petty. You parked in my space. Judge Judy stories. I want to do that, like, some assault stuff. I want some murders. Just to see Conor's face. And then I stuck the knife in a belly button, and I ran it up to her throat like she was a trout. Oh, my goodness. The powers of the eagle fly over you and drop its droplets. What? You heard me. Then he'll occasionally like Lord of the Rings or something. Oh, he's. He's. You gotta watch the show. You're missing out. The fact you're not watching it is just. You're. You're starving yourself of real entertainment. Whatever it is you're watching isn't gonna make you as entertained and touched and everything else. It touches everything. It's funny. It makes you emotional. You root for some of them, you don't like others yet you can't help it, and you just want Adon to bang Dani. Here's the other thing about the show. Dani is one that's on the spectrum, and she is craving the D. Her goal.

[John Holmberg]

Sounds wrong to even talk about this.

[Michael]

Watch it. Do you think it's wrong to talk about it because she's not like Burr. Burr. You wouldn't know. Here's how I tell you that. That's a fact. She is craving D. She just wants an intimate relationship. All of them are looking for love. She wants to score. So she dated Adan, the Three Stooges guy, for a year and finally said, put it in. It's our anniversary. It's time. And Adon's like, I don't believe that I buy sex before marriage. I'm like, really? You're still a fan of God after what he did to you? Okay, whatever. So they break up recently on Instagram. Danny's dating a fireman. Not on the spectrum. She got her D, all right. She got hosed.

[Brady]

Oh, yeah.

[Michael]

She's. Oh, this is hard to say. I don't want to say pretty. She'd fool you, you know, Danny would fool you.

[Brady]

Lightly on the spectrum.

[Michael]

Nope. She's on it. There's no question. Like you would you would diagnose it, like, pretty well. Oh, I see. But then, yeah, she'd fool you. You're at a bar, she's drinking, she's having fun. You think maybe she's a little drunk, but she's also a little bit off. And she's. She. Yeah, she'd fool you. She's got cans, you know, and all she wants is D. If you were at a bar, you just think, yeah, she's a little loopy six. A little like a housewife. That's not a housewife yet. And now she's dating some firefighter. Is that the firefighter? No, that's a don. That guy right there is the. That is the man who speaks D occasionally to D. Three Stooges. I think getting the D would be great. Thanks, Connor.

[John Holmberg]

So she finally got her D, I'm assuming.

[Michael]

So Instagram has her with the fireman, and the fireman's like, thumbs up. She wants it. I gave it to her, like, all right, firefighter. It's pretty great justice on the spectrum. Methinks it would work beautifully. You gotta watch Connor. Connor's the best. And it is. It's like bad acting. If you were to watch a movie and Connor was in it, you're like, this guy's overdoing it. It's like every single thing is shocking to him. Oh, it appears that it is raining. I agree.

[John Holmberg]

Sounds like George McFly from that.

[Michael]

He's a little of that. He's a little bit. He's a sweeter. He's George McFly. That's a very good. That's a very good comp. I'll say that. So. Oh, just. I'm excited about it. I'm gonna have to. I'm calling some people today and f you guys, if you steal it, it's on tape. Here is my idea. Started about 6:50 this morning. So registered trademarked right here. Stamp it. Me and a guy named Weber. I'll keep him around. That's his too. Because all he said was get judges that are, you know, and I know a few of them that are already stars that would draw eyes immediate. We're doing justice on the A judge show. Good Lord. This is great. And the jury is the other Spectrum. Oh, it gets better. I got ideas. Pretty soon I'm gonna ditch this rocket ship of start doing my justice on the Spectrum show. Let the Bobs drive radio into the earth. You guys. You guys keep spinning this screw down into the ground. Eventually you're gonna watch me walk away. Got an idea for retarded. People being justices. And he left. It's smart. Once again, Brady, you're. We have the silver alert. We have the amber alert, and I believe we should call this the Brady alert. The Arizona game and fish is warning people not to touch the foxes. So that's for you. Yeah. Officials warn residents after rabies case under Arizona line. Stop touching the foxes. They're. They got the rabies, but they're coming up to you because they're unafraid of you. And their foxes aren't huge.

[Brady]

No.

[Michael]

There was a fox when I left that house in show low. And he's. I called him red fox because that's what he was. So he'd walk by them, you big dummy. And he'd go by and I'd laugh because I'm the only one thinking that's funny. Nobody understood why I was making the fox voice that. But he'd hang around the back porch and stuff. Got a little familiar with the area. But I go outside and just do that just to keep him from thinking people are cool or having a kid get bit or whatever. Always scare the wildlife. That's my brazy opposite. Always invite them into the house and welcome, my friend. Why don't you enter my domicile? Yeah, you don't do that. So every time I see that the news, like, they're warning Arizona residents not to dabble with foxes again. And I'm like, who do they. I'm like, oh, yeah, Brady. Oh, yeah, I know a guy. So they said now they're advising residents to keep your distance.

[Brady]

Residents where?

[Michael]

All of Arizona. Now, Brady, I'm just gonna throw it out. There's a large blanket. Where are these foxes? Officials are warning Arizona residents. Do you have a driver's license?

[Brady]

Sure do.

[Michael]

That's you travel id well, don't travel too far to see foxes. So they're. They're. If they behave abnormally or a little aggressive or walk towards humans, it isn't cute. Arizona department of health services showed that foxes and skunks were the most common species to test positive for rabies right now. And it's Cochise county. They've had a few. Two gray foxes. So all of it. All animals possibly have it now, Brady. All of them. Bats, skunks, foxes, wolves, coyotes. They all carry their own distinct strain of rabies. And you have Alina. Bobcats, coyotes, cats, dogs, horses. You see any of these strange things coming at you, don't touch it.

[Brady]

At least the one here that I've seen a couple of mornings walking in.

[Michael]

The wall the coyote? Yeah.

[Brady]

I mean, it's right down in that, right next to our building.

[Michael]

What's your point?

[Brady]

He's walking, he's running away. If he comes towards me and I.

[Michael]

Have, you know, we have a Brady alert.

[Brady]

Krispy Kreme.

[Michael]

We have a Brady alert. You always smell tax day special. You always smell of fresh cooked foods. Gonna attract some wildlife. That doesn't mean they like you here, Wiley. It's the meat in your pocket.

[John Holmberg]

Is that ribs?

[Michael]

That guy smells hella good. I'm going over there. Hey, friend. I'm like Snow White. Yeah, that's it. Give me your pockets, dickhead. He's smelling my hands. He tickles. So again, the news came on immediately last night. Arizona residents being warned not to touch the foxes. I'm like, who the f. Oh, right, yeah, I've seen it. They're right. This is a good report.

[John Holmberg]

We're here with Byron from MMP Guns. Byron, why should someone choose to go to MMP Guns?

[Toledo]

The choice is simple, Brett. MMP Guns is your one stop shop for all your shooting needs. We offer Arizona's largest selection. Handguns, rifles, shotguns, new and pre owned. We also have a large selection of ammunition, accessories and even. In fact right now, all pre owned firearms are 20% off. All new firearms are 10% off. We have Ammo Inc. 9mm hollow points for only $12.99 a box and much more.

[John Holmberg]

Well, it sounds like M and P Guns is committed to providing the customers with the best possible service and selection.

[Toledo]

That's a fact. You can visit us at the store at the northeast corner of 12th Street Indian School or online at mmpguns.com ready.

[Michael]

To beat the heat, Hooters is making waves with our new Sun Surfin seafood deals. For a limited time, cool down with an ice cold sun cruiser starting at just $5 and dive into amazing shrimp special through Saturday. Like a dozen buffalo shrimp for only $12. Catch our sensational crab leg Sundays where you can add an extra half pound for just $9 when you order a full pound. We'll see you this summer at Hooters. But hurry before these hot deals sail away. Hooters more than just wings. Holmberg's morning sickness. That's right. I know a guy. So the Brady alert is out for everybody. If you see one, knock it off.

[Brady]

Hello, Foxy Shazam.

[Michael]

I call you Foxy Shazam because that's the biggest coyote ass I ever seen. And I like it. Is that finger 11? I don't remember. I like them all. Anyway, here's Another thing I think that we need to start doing. We need a little again. Justice. It's justice day. Taxes. We're thinking about, you know, where our money goes and how we can be better in the future. Was it about 15 years ago the Octomom happened?

[John Holmberg]

Yeah.

[Michael]

And the world judged like crazy and threw her under the bus. And rightfully so, by the way. Going back to what I was saying earlier. You get eight babies stuffed in you, even accidentally, and it's at the whisk out. Don't shake your head at that, Brady. That's not human. Women aren't supposed to have eight in a litter.

[Brady]

It's your.

[Michael]

What?

[Brady]

Your favorite sound effect.

[Michael]

Oh, I love this. Yeah, this isn't going anywhere for a long time. Especially because I know what it actually is. It's a lady with a raw egg in her mouth. And I'm not telling you what. Fantastic. Anywho, we gave her all the guff you can give, right? Hey, they made me the killer in the. It works. Okay, going back to what I was talking about before they put my face with the Josh Shapiro's Bombers beard on it. If I showed up with that, wouldn't you guys think, John's lost. It's time to talk to him. If I looked anything like that with the. It's getting close, but I don't have the ability to grow.

[Brady]

Definitely sending you to Pennsylvania. Back to the Amish.

[Michael]

Exactly.

[John Holmberg]

I'll post that one.

[Michael]

Exactly. I lose a hundred pounds. I grow the beard. I'm wander around going, I'm a socialist now. You guys are like, ooh, talk to him. Somebody talk to him. He's going through something. Anyway, back to what I was saying before you were rudely interrupting. Sorry. That was just crazy. Octomom. And Octomom was ridiculed. She was going to be a guest on this show. And I said no, because I have empathy for someone who's going through what she was going through, which was a woman with, what, six kids already that wanted one more? And she'd frozen eggs, and she did the. The. The fertility stuff and everything else, and it went crazy inside her and ended up brewing eight kids. Right. So about a year or two after the kids came out, she was on a tour, and if you remember, she was in trouble. Like, nobody would hire her. She was still known as Nadia Suleiman, Octo mom. Jobs were tough to come by.

[Brady]

Need money.

[Michael]

Yeah. Nobody wants. So she turned to doing laundry out. If you remember, she did laundry, which was the weirdest video I've ever seen where she's putting up, like, eight little baby onesies on a clothesline, and then she masturbates in a stream. I still don't understand the video. It was the strangest thing I've ever seen. But she's like. She was at her wit's end. Here we are, however many years later, 16 years. Her kids are normal. She did a good job. So, yes, we needed to judge her back then. But on the heels of me saying, judge everybody for what it is, because what she did was nuts, she stepped up to the plate and got it done. And she's now got six kids that, on the surface, at the very least, kind of have their crap together. She's doing a show now going, look at them now. This lady raised 14 kids with all that scrutiny and all that pressure on her shoulders of being Octomom, the social pariah, the outcast, the nut. And now they go back and check in and go, hey, we, as society tried to wreck you. How'd you do? And she goes, pretty good, actually. I had some times that I got a little. Fitz had her on the show. On his show. We were gonna. But I'm like, I don't want this to get any further than it already is. And my reasoning was, she's famous for being dumb and crazy and not. And I don't think we need to spotlight that. And when Fitz had her on, he said, you know what? You're right. I felt sorry for her. By the end of it, I felt bad for her. Like, this is a desperate lady who.

[Brady]

14 kids.

[Michael]

Yeah. Who now has the spotlight of society on her. And she didn't ask for that. That came to her because she had eight babies. And then that belly picture. Remember that? When they were all in there. It's time we gave Nadia Suleiman a little credit. Now. She can blow it still. But an apology might be necessary from all of us to say, octomom, we kicked you down the stairs a whole bunch of times thinking, and what's gonna happen to these kids? You look at the old comments of Octomom and how they used to say stuff like, ah, she's a crazy bitch. I feel sorry for those kids. The kids are gonna have a horrible life. Nope, they did okay. Now, I don't know how she made her money. I don't know how it ended up. You know, you got to take advantage of it at a certain point.

[Brady]

There's gotta be some. I mean, it is amazing. I mean, the expense of 14 kids.

[Michael]

I can't imagine it. But, you know, maybe Maybe do a porn too. Yeah, she. I don't know if she did porn. I know she did porn. Light. Well, it was only fans before. Only fans where she was tugging her junk. Yeah, and you don't want to watch a woman giving birth to 14.

[John Holmberg]

No, it wasn't that. I think it was. Yeah, I think it was after that.

[Michael]

What do you mean? Oh, yeah, she did it after she pumped out the kids. We wouldn't have cared before admits of.

[John Holmberg]

Doing porn and sex work to support her 14 kids.

[Michael]

Well, it worked. She's not the only one to do that. And if the kids are. If the kids are normal. And so far, you know, more kids that work for Disney have gone off the rails than live at Nadia Solomon's house. She did. Okay, it's time we all kind of stepped back and said, you know what, sorry about that octo mom and maybe start an onlyfans for her now and say, here, here's some college money. Because we give those GoFundMe pages tons of money just for somebody who you don't even know if they effed up or not. They're just that one 81 year old lady that was a waitress. You did a story a couple weeks ago and some lady said she's 81, and the woman at the table said, how come you're not retired? She goes, I can't. Can't afford it. And they did a gofundme for her for some, and they ended up with like $400,000 a day. You don't know what that old lady did. She might have been crazy. She might have been a crackhead or, you know, burned people's house. You don't know what her deal is, why she's broke at 81, but just because of the age and the, you know. Well, we should help her out maybe. Well, who should we?

[John Holmberg]

Maybe not.

[Michael]

Oh yeah, maybe not. We should really help out the octo mom.

[Brady]

Well, what about the guy you never hear about? Dennis Bodoin? He's the biological father.

[Michael]

Oh, but of the 80s. Yeah, but he just donated. Like he signed papers. That wasn't on him.

[Brady]

I'm surprised that held.

[Michael]

Well, if you sign a paper before that says, look, you can. It's just like going to a sperm bank. Like, dude, I'm doing this, but this isn't because I want to be the dad. It's because you asked me to help out. Now maybe he would helped out with one. Maybe his deal was, if you have one, that's fine, but for the most part, if that guy had any Extra money or whatever. Maybe he kicked in. But I know what I'm gonna do. If I donate my sperm to a lady and say, I'll help out with one. If you go any further than that, that's on you. And she pumps eight out and then comes after me. I'm dangling from a rope. My life's out. Peace out. Yep. Nothing about that. Yep. Guess what I'm gonna do, Brady? That's it. You hear me? Jump into a chipper or a garbage disposal. But you know who would stop that from being real justice on the spectrum? You agreed to only one. She had eight. Methinks. This isn't fair. He's right. Anyway. To Nadia Solomon. And the only person in America who actually cared about her. Brady. Me. Didn't want to put her on the show and exploit her any further. Fitz did that instead. When Station still did it. But Fitz did it. She was famous for all the wrong reasons. And it was weird because. Yeah. 16 years ago was 2009. Right. So you start thinking 2009. We didn't have this explosion of people being famous for just doing one thing. She was one of the first that was just famous for being famous. You know, like charo in the 70s. Like, just what do you do? Like, you're just famous for being Charo. Like, you haven't really accomplished anything. I know you play the guitar pretty good, but.

[Brady]

And that started off. It was her first. And then Kate plus eight or whatever.

[Michael]

I don't know if it started it, but we were big on the whole.

[Brady]

It had to been.

[Michael]

Right. We had a fascination for a good portion of years of spotlighting women who have babies that shouldn't have babies. Teen mom, it was such a hit. They're doing Teen mom now with the. Because the kids are 16. It was 2009. Right?

[Brady]

It used to just be the pregnancy thing and dealing with that.

[Michael]

Sure. But now it was like, now it's.

[Brady]

Like, we want you to have kids.

[Michael]

You probably shouldn't be pregnant. Can we follow you around? You have a pregnancy you don't really want, but you're afraid to get rid of. We're gonna make a show out of that. With Teen Mom. Almost encouraged teens to have kids. Cause it was like a payday. Then they had Teen Mom 2, where they found another batch of pregnant broads who were 15 and 16. Followed them around and made them fun. And then they made a career out of it. Colberg's morning sickness. Holberg's morning sickness. 28K.

[John Holmberg]

Hey, Byron. I heard you have something new to announce from MMP Guns Brett I sure do.

[Toledo]

It's MMP Guns Customs MMP Guns is creating some amazing firearms. We offer polishing, plating, bluing, custom laser engraving, laser stippling, cerakoting and performance upgrades. We do everything in house with our master trained craftsman. You can select our designs or make up your own.

[John Holmberg]

Well, can you do this to my gun?

[Toledo]

We can do it to nearly any firearm. Doesn't matter where you live, you can ship it to us or we already have completed firearms in inventory daily with no wait.

[John Holmberg]

Well, there you have it. MMP Guns on the northeast corner of 12th street and Indian or online at MMP Guns customs.com It's stick to little.

[Byron]

For FanDuel, America's number one sportsbook right now. With FanDuel you can make the smarter play with performance trends. You can get the latest stats right inside the app and see who's heating up. Get started today by visiting FanDuel.com CUPD and you'll get started with $200 in bonus bets guaranteed when you place your first $5 bet. Make every moment more with FanDuel, official sports betting partner of the NBA 21 plus and President Arizona first online real money wager only $5 first deposit required. Bonus issued is now withdrawable. Bonus bets that expire seven days after receipt restrictions apply. See terms of sportsbook fand gambling problem. Call 1-800-next-step or text next step to 53342.

[John Holmberg]

All right, HMS podcast time again to let you know where to go for some great comedy in the Valley this week. Get up north to Desert Ridge to see comedy sets from Leo Gonzalez and Tempe at the Improv. You've got Randy Felt Face performing. Just Google it. And you're gonna have to go see.

[Michael]

For yourself on that one.

[John Holmberg]

And downtown at Standup Live, the very funny Gary Owen entertains you all this week. For the complete lineups and for tickets, go to standuplive.com desert r improv.com and.

[Michael]

Tempy improv.com Holg's Morning Sickness. I can't blame him. I'd have done it too.

[John Holmberg]

Oh yeah.

[Michael]

But Octomom made money making babies. You know what? Good for her. I say. I think she got it done properly. That was a. That had to be rough. But 16 years later, none of her kids have done anything crazy that we know about, and they still might be nuts. Look, anybody with eight kids, one or two of them are going to One or two of them. Yeah.

[Brady]

The odds are these years where you're finding out you Know that for the.

[Michael]

Eight that are 16, Brady, can you imagine? You have eight Kirbys in the house, all the same age.

[Brady]

Something's got to go crazy.

[Michael]

One or two of them is not going to be okay. So far you haven't even heard a word Tom says. Octomom was kind of hot. Let's be honest. Those videos were better than we expected. I didn't like that she was hanging onesies in the early the video I saw she was doing laundry and there was kids clothes up there. And I'm like, I agreed disagree. Yeah, yeah. I didn't think Octomom. She had a little bit of a Down syndrome Angelina Jolie look. But when she dropped trowel and I think she's by a stream or a body of water at some point and she starts rubbing one out, I'm like, I 14 babies have fallen out of that. I'm not interested at all.

[Brady]

Octuplets.

[Michael]

Yeah.

[Brady]

And a set of twins.

[Michael]

I don't want. Look, octuplets alone makes your vagina something I don't even want to imagine. I mean, again, if I give you pen and paper and said, hey, draw the vagina of a woman who's had octuplets. It wouldn't be a good drawing at all. You're not going pristine. You're not making a paper cut out of that. That is going to look like, I don't know, actually look like a bullet wound. Like a bat. Like Saving Private Ryan. Like terrible hole.

[John Holmberg]

This is the picture you're thinking of.

[Michael]

It's further than that, but yeah. She in sand. I know. I thought she was by water, but she was doing laundry in the one I saw.

[John Holmberg]

Well, that's what I'm saying.

[Michael]

All the laundry. There's the laundry. That is the one. Yeah. There she's got a bunch of onesies and kids clothes on a laundry line. That is the one. I thought she was by water. There may be water in that video. That actually looks pretty hot from here.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah, not bad.

[Brady]

Yeah, she's at the scrub Scrub board in a tub.

[Michael]

She's scrubbing laundry. That is the one. I thought she had green on. It's been a while since I've not jerked off to that. Did she do actual sex work?

[John Holmberg]

I'm not sure. Here's the video.

[Michael]

All right, we'll be right back. Octo Mom's video. Home alone. It says.

[Brady]

Yeah, it looks solo.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah, I think it's a solo. I think he's right.

[Michael]

Yeah, I'm pretty sure. The only. The only thing I watched her do. Hey, Brady, it was this. That's all I saw. We got to tip the cap, you know what, and judge her all you want for how she did it and whatever. She was in a pinch. And I hear parents say that all the time. I'd do anything to make sure my kids were okay. Anything. Sacrifice yourself to make the kids all right. And I don't. You know, no parent says, well, I would never do that if my kids were hungry. If it meant going hungry or not having a house, you'd do it. Making ends meet. So whatever it took. And her kids came out okay. So I think we need to tip.

[Brady]

Our cap to that under director, Brad Armstrong.

[Michael]

Sure. Brad had to get there. He had to get involved.

[Brady]

He's done more stuff.

[Michael]

And Tom even brings up now, he's right on the email. He says, you know, surprisingly looks better than we'd have thought if 16 years ago. Like, man, she's gonna be. She doesn't look terrible today. And I don't know what channel her show is on now where they're following her around with the new kids, but good on her, man. You want to talk about turning lemonade out of lemons? Jesus.

[Brady]

She's still in the thick of it.

[Michael]

Oh, she. It's. Yeah, not much.

[Brady]

Eight, 16 years old.

[Michael]

That's pretty good, though, looking, you know, 16 years later after raising 14 babies and. And eight of them are all the same age. And all she did was drop down on some D for some kids so the kids could eat. What woman hasn't done that? I'm impressed. The kids are functional. They look normal. None of them are like goth weirdos or crazy looking. They're all pretty. All pretty well adjusted. Good for you, Octomom. Actually, look at it again, John. It wasn't too bad. I mean, we've all seen a baseball mitt that's well past its prime. It just has some long drapes. Some of the strings are hitting. Yeah, that's what we see. Octomom. I'm not sexually attracted to Octomom for that reason.

[John Holmberg]

Those gloves are already broken in. You know, they're.

[Michael]

Look, if. Yeah. If you were sitting at a bar and she sat next to you, didn't know who she was, and like, hey, how are you? You maybe start talking to her? This girl's okay. And you're like, so, what's your story? Well, I have 14 kids. Goodbye. Wow. Where'd he go? He's got superpowers.

[Brady]

I don't think the door would even open.

[Michael]

That's all you'd hear. Happens every Time I turn men into Usain Bolt. So you got a family? A little one, yeah. I could have a football team with three bench players.

[Brady]

What?

[Michael]

Where do you anyway, so, Octomom. I tip my cap. Brett, what do you got on the big board of musical treats?

[John Holmberg]

All right. Wake Up Song brought to you by Action Ride Shop. Of course, Josh and the boy is going to be taking care of us for keg. Number one for the big Easter keg hunt. And it's going on this Thursday over at the brand new location right there on power Road and McDowell. So come on out there and also visit the OG store. I like that last one on Gilbert Road and Southern. You need your bike fixed, you need a new bike, you need to rent a bike. Anything having to do with bike, they are going to take care of you. Action Ride shop is your one stop shop. Actionrideshop.com on the list. Cannibal Corpse, Hammer, Smashed Face for Pennsylvania guy.

[Michael]

Yeah.

[John Holmberg]

Sacred Reich for Tax Day. The American Way, Ozzy, Rage Against Machine, Motley Crue for no Reason, Aerosmith. Dude looks like a lady for the NBA draft. Mud Vein, Wage War, Fozzie Sweet Fox on the run for Brady.

[Michael]

He would be.

[John Holmberg]

And Suicidal tendencies institutionalized for Mr. Pennsylvania.

[Michael]

Yeah, we need to stuff people into nutty bins more often. You start acting nutty, we're going to take a look at you for 48 hour holds. You know what's weird? It still exists. It still exists because when we had our U fest a couple years ago, that dude that was making threats, what did they do? They couldn't take him away, but they just parked by his house. The cops. And if he left, they followed him around on the off chance he had help. We had armed snipers at our show, which was really odd.

[John Holmberg]

Fitz and I had interview the band that he was at. Here we go.

[Michael]

And then he started coming like, people aren't safe either. It's like, all right, get some cars around. In the olden days, they just go strap them up. They just go put a coat on them and stuff them in a car and drive them around for 48 hours till the thing he was mad about went away. Can't do that. We're gonna do also.

[Brady]

How'd that work out? Wonder how effective that was. 48 hours.

[John Holmberg]

I don't know.

[Michael]

They know they didn't do it. I know. They put them. They didn't know.

[Brady]

I'm saying back in the day.

[Michael]

Oh, it worked out great. I'm positive of it. It. I'm sure of it. Occasionally you're gonna have a few slip through. But again, bad guys don't like being told, hey, we know what you're up to way before they do their thing. That's. That stops them. Nobody. If. Look, if you went into Kirby's room and said, I know you're selling meth. I know you can. She's about to start selling meth. I know you're doing it. You're showing all the signs of somebody's about to be a meth salesman. Yeah, she's not gonna sell meth. She's not gonna go, yeah, yeah, whatever. And then continue to sell method.

[Brady]

Yeah. The fact that everyone now knows.

[Michael]

Yeah, they're on people.

[Brady]

We're gonna hold you.

[Michael]

Yeah. Then you go. When you go, I'm just keep my eyes on you. Because one thing I think about you is you're a meth salesman. She's not going to show any or exhibit any meth sales signs. You're on to her. It's like, you know, in football, you diagnose play. I know what they're doing. So you're not going to do that anymore. You disguise it. At the very least, you try to hide it. Damn it. Will you stop with the down symbol?

[John Holmberg]

Somebody just sent it over. No, it's not a video.

[Michael]

It's just I'm hearing that this is a trend on Instagram where girls are putting down syndrome faces on their beautiful bodies. No, it's. It's a filter. Chuck over real women. Yeah, I'm sure some's AI, but even AI has boundaries. Like, I'm not doing that. John, as soon as you said there were eight, Kirby's in the house at the daddy. Number seven. Kirby keeps stealing my bong. Number 11, Kirby's not pastoring after the puff puff. Kirby two is hogging the munchies. That's not Kirby two. That's me. Damn it, Daddy. Kirby's everywhere. The house is just like a.

[Brady]

You were selling meth.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah.

[Brady]

Making a hundred grand a week.

[Michael]

Yeah. It's maybe, though, you have three weeks.

[Brady]

To knock it off.

[Michael]

Yeah, but that's after the fact, though. You can't. You got to catch them before. If somebody's selling meth and they're pulling in six figures, paying some bills around the house. If Kirby starts. Hey, dad, I got the SRP this month. You're like, I don't know what you're doing, but keep it up. But if you start seeing that she's going down that road, you're starting to exhibit some crazy signs. You look at her sometimes. You're like, all right, what's going on with this one?

[Brady]

Yeah, it helps.

[Michael]

Yeah, you judge it. You predetermine it. That's your job. Let's do it. Institutionalize, which a lot of your kids should be before they do dumb stuff. It's suicidal. It's 98K upd, Arizona's most powerful rock media station. He said fully erect. It's John Holmberg here from the morning sickness. And it's time once again for this week's pick of the litter, brought to you by our friends at turf monsters. Go to turfmonstersaz.com they help us out at lost our home pet rescue, and we appreciate them greatly. This week's pick of the litter is a project. It's Jep. He's a special project for that special someone. Jep is one of my projects. Let's get him a forever home. They'll waive the fees. Right now, it's this week. Pick of the litter. It's Jep. Check it out. Lost our home.org 98kupd.com From Monument Valley.

[Byron]

To Sedona, Horseshoe Bend, Grand Canyon, and more, you might think you've seen all Arizona has to offer. Well, I'd tell you if you haven't been fishing in Arizona, you haven't seen a thing. It's Dick Toledo from homework's morning sickness. And my first time fishing in Arizona was up in Greer with my friend Jeremy. He was the pro that I'm definitely not. But grabbing a fishing license that weekend was the passport that opened up the whole state to me. And you can get your [e-mail] and discover for yourself a whole new way to take in the Arizona sites.