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John Holmberg
Good morning everybody. Hello there. Welcome to Thursday. It's fine. I'm still chewing. It's 5:45. Hang on. Granola babes is the morning sickness. I'm John. There's Brady, there's Brett, there's. Through the. Hold on.
Brady
Granola in the teeth.
John Holmberg
Yeah. You know that Brady. Brady understands my pain. Yikes. All right, There we go. There we are. All right, now I'm good. Happy Thursday, everybody. Happy May. It's already May, cruising into the fifth month of the year. Good Lord. Brett's regaling us with a story about twiggers and meth heads. Already it's spring has sprung.
Brett Vesley
Good morning, everybody.
John Holmberg
Good morning to all of you. And then I'm jumping right into this. The two days ago, I spent 30 minutes talking about how stupid the youth were for the raid at the Tempe Tavern. 162 citations and arrests for underage drinking at the Tempe Tavern. And like, what the hell happened to the. The youth of America that knew when to run from the popo? They knew when to get the hell out of Dodge. They didn't stand in line and wait for their citations. Well, now Tempe Tavern's getting. I figured they'd have to close. Evidently not. They're selling T shirts now. For now, that's a tavern Strong. And on the back it says hour 9 11. I'm laughing my ass off at this. That's great. But there are people now saying, how dare you Compare this to 9 11. There we go. Not only what happened to Now I know what happened to the youth of America. Their parents are absolutely stupid, too. You can't look the reason it's funny to some people. And you're not the arbiter of funny to anyone. No one is. What's funny to you may not be funny to me, but when it's not funny to you, it doesn't mean you have a right to squash it. Those guys took it. Took a swing, saying, this was the most tragic thing that's ever happened to us. That's sort of hilarious. But people are saying, now you're comparing this to 9 11, people died. And I'm like, what stick is up your ass, you humorless C word that makes it so you can't recognize. They're not comparing it to 9 11. They're basically saying it's their 9 11. It's the worst thing that's ever happened to them. That's all. And they're doing it in a funny way by comparing it to such an absurd comparison to a huge tragedy. No one's saying they're wanting the sympathy of the twin Towers. And so they're on the news last night going, this is an abominate. How dare this? Families Die. People still are suffering. And I'm like, wow, when did we become this humorless, weird group that if you don't like a joke, you run to the media and you scream out loud. I didn't like that. So no one can. I speak from personal experience. Yeah. I speak from personal experience that occasionally a joke of mine may or may not land in someone's brain. And yet, instead of just going, I hate that guy, which was the olden way they scream, we must eliminate this person from the planet. Tempe Tavern. I got your back. I still don't know how you're open. I'm not gonna. I have no idea how you got away with this one, where you're actually went and, you know, mopped up and pulled that little chain for your neon open sign. The next day, after 162 underage kids were drinking in a bar. No clue how you're still open, but the fact that you guys printed T shirts the next day that said Tavern. Hashtag Tavern strong and made everybody. I'm dying. I find it hysterical. Toledo.
Brett
My idiot kid knows about this.
John Holmberg
You're down in Tucson?
Brett
Yeah.
John Holmberg
Your idiot child knows about this.
Brett Vesley
He would have been there if he.
John Holmberg
Wasn'T in Tucson, because I had to call him.
Brett
I'm like, hey, did you hear about Tempe Tavern?
John Holmberg
Was he a big fan?
Brett
He's. He's like, dad, that place, like, nobody went there until, like, the last year. It just all of a sudden just blew up over the last year. So, yeah, that's why.
John Holmberg
Yeah. So they knew it was kind of just a normal place. And then suddenly somebody. It's a flood of humanity. One.
Brett
One kid goes in and gets it, and then the next was like, hey, we got a new place. So he was like, yeah, no, none of us would go there. And I'm like, well, you're still going into Tucson. So if you look around and you see like 40 people in there that. That have your same fake ID, you might want to leave.
John Holmberg
Just get out.
Dick Toledo
Get out.
John Holmberg
Or run. Run. Throw it on the ground. Run away.
Brady
Yep.
Brett
You weren't there.
John Holmberg
Here's another thing. If you're underage, I'm going to teach some kids how to underage drink real quick.
Brett Vesley
All right?
John Holmberg
Vodka doesn't smell the way beer smells. Yeah, you keep some gum in your pocket. You don't drink beer because beer reeks vodka. It stinks. You throw gum or mint in your mouth, and you're pretty clean. So long as you're not going nuts.
Brett Vesley
Those white Tic Tacs kill everything.
John Holmberg
Everything.
Brett Vesley
Yeah, so the white Tic Tacs and.
John Holmberg
You got to take like nine, right? But hey, you basically have to crunch them. Yeah, yeah. You have to burn all your taste buds off of your tongue. Idiots. Yeah, it's. It's a hilarious thing I'm looking at on the news last night, like going.
Brett Vesley
To get one of those shirts.
John Holmberg
I'm. If I could, if Tempe Tavern would send me. Do we have to go or can they send it here? Because the place probably sticky floors and stinky 19 year old clean now. A lot of vomit from newbies. Yeah, that's true. They probably mopped up and they're like, well, they' nobody here anymore.
Brady
We go to that place, maybe get a tombstone pizza and a couple of drinks.
John Holmberg
Is there a tombstone in there?
Brady
A little pizza oven, some places like that.
Brett Vesley
Jupe says that.
John Holmberg
So does the swiz. Yeah, but they have that tiny little. I like that. Brady Dive bars. Not necessarily Brady's haunts, but he has.
Brady
Enjoyed a tombstone, I think. Right.
John Holmberg
And the dive bar, yeah, it's no.
Brett Vesley
Red Baron, but you know, tombstone.
John Holmberg
It says it's probably one of two bars. An ASU freshman said, it's probably one of two bars that any kid under the age of 21 can go to. I love that the, the Tavern has the balls to not only have that reputation, but celebrate it after their massive bust. They're a lot like the Catholic church in the ways that they have done the exact opposite thing that they are supposed to. And in the end they're just like, nah, big deal. Here's some T shirts. Unreal. It says the operation was in response to multiple complaints that the police department said that the bar had gotten a little unruly. There's the shirts there. Tavern Strong Hour 9 11. It says on the back. Not long after the raid, Tempe Tavern posted on Facebook that the T shirts will be available. And they got right on it. And people are like, it's an interesting joke. Personally, I think it's kind of funny, said the ASU freshman. So do I. And then someone else said, it's gross. That's my only word for it. Just gross. How inappropriate you are. Anyone who says that to me immediately is just off my radar. Is like somebody I want to be with because those are fragile brains that will get offended and wreck everything for everyone there. Anybody who gets like joke offended can't be trusted as a friend at all because they'll come after you. Like anyone who gets joke offended will come after you. If you say if You're a funny person. Being a funny person sometimes. Yeah. Look, we got four and a half hours. Would Toledo just say yesterday, like 5,300 shows. I don't know what we've done. Four and a half hours of. Of commenting on the world and all this stuff. You're gonna step in it now and again. You're occasionally going to bounce off a wall and go, whoops, yeah, that was a little fast. You know, that was a. A joke that probably was a little too much. But, oh, well, no malice, no nothing. We've lost that.
Brady
Sometimes the. Oh makes it funnier.
John Holmberg
Comedy, the formula.
Brady
Oh, my gosh.
John Holmberg
Tragedy plus time equals funny. That's. That is the formula for hilarious. And, yeah, there's certain things you're just like, all right, don't you know it's going to be hard to make cancer and age, but it can be done. You can do it. But the people. If you have a friend at all, we need to start dismiss, canceling those people, not the other way around. We need to start movements against people who have sticks in their asses. The hashtag, you have a stick in your ass movement begins today because, yes, the Tempe Tavern might have offended some people with that, but you weren't going there in the first place. They have a right to tell jokes you don't like. And they can sell T shirts that say, are 9 11. And guess what? It doesn't kill more people than Al Qaeda. It doesn't do anything. But why? Why would they have to do that? Don't know. That's the fun of comedy. Why should never be asked the word why should never be involved. Why in the world you can say it to yourself. Why would you do that? That's crazy. Yeah, but trying to get them in trouble or. Or even have the nerve that your brain. You're so. The word dumb comes to mind. You're so dumb, you can't differentiate their T shirt joke and 911. You say they're comparable. That's you comparing it, not them. They're just referencing it.
Brady
Would it change at all if that shirt instead said R 9 11? It says our Sandy Hook.
John Holmberg
Yeah. Yeah. You know, it changes because there's kids involved.
Brady
Yeah.
John Holmberg
It changes because it's in a direct.
Brady
Well, that might be a little aggressive.
John Holmberg
But it wouldn't make sense because Sandy Hook is Sandy Hook's worst day.
Brady
Yeah.
John Holmberg
911 is arguably America's worst day. So in a reference point comedy lesson, you're missing it. Yeah, in a reference point, you're just missing it.
Brett Vesley
They didn't want to take it too far.
John Holmberg
Yeah, well, and you're taking a swing at a, at a small thing that had big impact. 911 was an attack on the nation. It was America's worst day. Right? Arguably, Sandy Hook is America's like second worst day. But it wasn't an attack on the entire nation. It was an internal mess. An outsider came in and destroyed us. You can sit. This is where you lose me on the joke. It's like, well, what if they did this? They didn't. They didn't. If they'd done that, right? What if they put up dead goats outside and bled them and said no firstborn son of everyone will get killed. Oh wait, a Bible reference. Let's not go there. Let's not do that. That graphic, horrible thing, we can joke about that. But if they did that, they didn't. They made a joke that was reference pointed directly at something everyone would get, which is, this is our 9 11. People on the Internet say that all the time. Well, I got a hangnail. I've done that. Oh my God, this hangnail is horrible. This is my 9 11. I make jokes all the time. That 311911 is greater than 311. I would make T shirts on that because the people that get it laugh at it. And no, I'm not going to say I'm a fan of 9 11, but dumb people can't do it. We need to cancel the Dumb people. We need to cancel the. But what if people. We need to cancel that. If they did this, the joke could have gone here. It didn't. Sickness Medicaid. Can you.
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John Holmberg
If you want to make the things worse, go ahead. You're not bright.
Brett Vesley
Somebody's asking. Batman says, what happened to the good old days when kids would stand outside a Safeway and get some homeless guy to buy him a beer and all.
John Holmberg
That kind of stuff? Yeah, that's true though.
Brett Vesley
I used to do that.
John Holmberg
I tried it and I would never ask the homeless. I would always ask a, you know someone who's around my age, give him an extra 10.
Brett Vesley
Here you go, dude.
John Holmberg
You get a guy who's like 22 and you're like, you've been where I am. I'm 18. Can you go in there and get.
Brett Vesley
I got you.
John Holmberg
Yeah, all right, I'll do it.
Brett Vesley
AIDS isn't funny. What happened? Remember your ass last week? We were all saying you had ass aids.
John Holmberg
Thank you. And I knew I, I didn't have to go to your homes and go. Where do you work? Well, I work at the, the Boeing plant. Why? Well, I'm gonna get you fired today because you made an AIDS joke about me and AIDS ain't funny, man. Well, now it's not. Cause you're. You got a stick up your ass. How many AIDS jokes came across our thing on my spider bike every other. Thousands. Thousands.
Brett Vesley
Apparently Toledo's right. He says that's where the kids started going after a Devil's Advocate closed. So apparently they just switched underage bars.
John Holmberg
They know the word gets out, but what a stick in your ass. I mean, the bigger question here is not, wow, can they make jokes like that? What if they said this? How about, where does it end? It's like, you're just a humorless, untrustworthy person. If you have a friend like that in your little circle, cancel them today. They can't be trust because you'll make a joke someday and they'll be like, you know what? I'm gonna. I'm gonna rat you out. I didn't like that. And they won't be your friend anymore because they're teetering on the fragility of words. I get it. Sometimes you're uncomfortable with a joke. Sometimes you're uncomfortable with someone that isn't a joke. That someone. It's just words, sticks and stones. It's all it is.
Brady
T shirt sales, don't like it, move on.
John Holmberg
Move on. But don't start. Don't start asking what if. Don't start asking. They could have. Would it be different if. Yeah, would. A lot of things would be different. They didn't. They didn't do it. So could you find a parallel to say, oh, they could have. They could have done this and it wouldn't have been funny. Right? Yeah, but no one did that. And that's how mob mentality works. One person says, you know, they could have done. They could have done a thing about children. And that could have been, what about this? It's like, they didn't, though. But mobs rile themselves up with things that didn't occur. And suddenly the potential for all things terrible are tied to one thing. Tempe Tavern. I got your back. I do not understand how you're still open. Most bars that have 160 plus underage people in them don't open again the next day with new T shirts. I just don't get that.
Brady
The only thing I mean, only I can think of is, like, the IDs are just that good now.
John Holmberg
Oh, sure. I'm positive.
Brady
There's like, you. There's no way of telling.
John Holmberg
But still, a bar that we're 162 people are arrested and the cops knew.
Brady
Yeah. If they found out, that's the thing. But whether or not still slap on the hand and all right. Continues to the bar.
Dick Toledo
I don't know.
John Holmberg
I don't know. That's my thing. Like, the only thing I don't get in this whole deal. And I don't want you to close. I don't like people losing their jobs over stupid stuff. Unless this was in a. Like, as everybody's in on it. You're like, okay, they were intentionally breaking the law. You know, there's businesses, boom, they signed up with the rules knowing can't do this underage thing or you're going to lose your license.
Brady
And we're rolling the dice.
John Holmberg
But again, like you said, business is booming, money talks. If these kids are coming in and you got 160 kids at your place and they're questionably 21, but awfully darn close and everyone showed identification and you didn't catch that each ID was fake. But the cops had to come. It's hard to, it's hard. If your business is in trouble as.
Brady
An owner like of a bar to begin with and you do you know that and the fact that, you know, one of the kids being overserved gets into an accident or whatever, you're big lawsuit here.
John Holmberg
Right here is what I'm talking about in a nutshell. Everything is personal to everyone. It's called. There's a radical acceptance of, of your situation. And this is, this is getting deep right here in Dr. Viktor Frankl's book, Man's Search for Meaning, he spent multiple years in a concentration camp and sat back and said, this is my reality. This is, this is my worst event. It doesn't mean that I can throw it in the face of someone else who's going through a tough time because that's their worst event. So basically what he's saying is Brent may have lived a charmed life and this migraine headache he has is the worst day of his life. I have no right to tell him, you can't complain because I've been through worse. And you on the flip side shouldn't say, oh, people have been through worse. I must ignore this problem. That is your worst day. Hence the new phrase that's your 9 11. Right. Because people understand.
Brady
Yeah.
John Holmberg
Leo Martinez emails in arguably, and this is just proof that everybody sees things differently. The day they let women vote was America's worst day. That's Leo's 9 11. Leo's. If it said hashtag women can't vote, my 911 on his back. You see that at the Safeway. I'm on the floor pissing like I'm incontinent.
Brett Vesley
I've.
Brady
Growing up as your parents, you know, whether every day when a teen, every day they go through a 9 11.
John Holmberg
Of course they're dramatic. But again, but you have to allow the educational process. You have to allow people to go through their worst days, no matter how silly those worst days may seem, because it makes real things. It develops your coping skills. My hangnail is my 9. 11. Oh, you've lived a charmed life compared to me, but you're still going through what you consider your worst day. We all think you're a pussy, but it's still your worst day. Michael Higgins says, this is great. Do you think Japanese kids say, this is my Hiroshima? Probably at this point. There's a bar that served underage Japanese. Boy, what a gig. I just turned into Brennan. Boy, oh, boy, what a job it would be in Japan to be a bartender trying to guess your age and then look at an ID and go, this isn't you.
Brady
Yeah. Prove it.
John Holmberg
What? Japanese bartenders like being a Japanese detective. We're looking for a 5 foot 9 inch man with black hair that's straight across his eyes, and he's about 141lbs. That's all of them.
Brett Vesley
China, black hair color.
John Holmberg
Yeah, you got that. Chinese man, black hair. If you go out and find him, like, I'll just bring back anybody, I'm pretty sure. How about if you're a victim of crime in Japan? Do they even do lineups? All right, can you identify which one it was? I think it's all of them. Yeah.
Brett Vesley
There's no Tempe Taverns over there because they'd round up 700 people and there's.
John Holmberg
Like, two of them are 83. It's like, I'm 83 years old. But you look just. You look young. They don't age. Now, this is offensive to someone out there because it's funny. And funny is gonna have two audiences. I hate it or I like it. That's it. Tempe Tavern. Tip of the cap, my friends. I talked about this with Adam Carolly years ago, and he told me that phrase that I always stand by. I never apologize to a mob because a mob is never right. And we started to discuss mob behavior. I'm like, you're absolutely right. One guy gets mad, tells another guy who didn't even know what was going on. And he delivered it with an angry, can you believe what Brady said on the air the other day? It's like, I didn't hear it. Oh, he said this and that about aids, and he thought it was hilarious. And I had a cousin who died. You had a friend? Yeah, I did. That's not right. And then he tells somebody else with anger in his voice. Now, four People are saying, what's next? That's the one time it.
Brady
And other things get added off.
John Holmberg
That's. Once it goes sideways. Is when someone says, well, what. What else is funny to these people? What's next? Are we going to start making fun of. Like, you bring up Sandy Hook. It's like, nobody did that. Yeah, but now the mob thinks it happened. They've talked themselves into this. No, there is no comparing at all. 9, 11 with what went on at the Tempe Tavern. If you're thinking that's what they did, you have no sense of humor. You have no understanding of comparisons and absurdities, which is the whole point of funny absurdities. Can they go too far? Sure. If they're done maliciously, you got a thing. You got a point. If somebody's calling for some sort of movement to be malicious and mean and attack for no reason. If you just didn't like it, move on. Cancel your friends who complain about jokes. The best compl. The worst thing you can say to a funny person was, that wasn't funny. That is. You can tell me, oh, my God, that was offensive. But if you just go, nah, that wasn't very funny. Oh, it's painful. If your joke doesn't land, it's horrible. Tempe Tavern. Great work. I'll take a large. Brett, you're a large. Brady 3x2x. What do we got coming your way? 2x2x. All right. Good one. Good on you. Hey, keep working on it, kid. I get one for Toledo. We'll all wear them around and infuriate the ladies. Who. I don't know. It's very rarely a man, too. That's the other thing. Maybe Leo was right. Giving them a voice was a bad idea.
Brett Vesley
Again, I'm gonna go home. It's his worst day. Were we to argue.
John Holmberg
Exactly.
Brett Vesley
You know.
John Holmberg
Exactly. That's by far Tempe Tavern's worst day.
Brett Vesley
Absolutely.
John Holmberg
By far. That is their 9, 11. That's their worst day. But, yeah, you can't. You can sit back and get mad at stuff. I understand that. But you know what? That's just you. And if nine or 10 of you are mad, doesn't mean you're a spokesperson for all things hilarious. Patrice o' Neill went on CNN and told a lady who was mad at him for making a joke about a kid thing, and I don't remember what the joke was, and she was mad about some of us. And they showed clips of another comedian on stage in a comedy club making jokes on cnn. And Patrice o' Neill's like you don't.
Leo Martinez
Know what funny is or you wouldn't have done this.
John Holmberg
Like, you don't show clips of a comedy club on a news show and think it's equal. You can't take that out of context, put it on a news show and say, can you believe this? Of course not. If that comedian came on and started making abortion jokes to Anderson Cooper, he's gonna come across like a crazy person. It's the setting. You just don't do it in someplace. You don't start joking around at funerals. You know, you don't have. You look and you assess this and read the room. Edwards Morning sickness. 98K. You P D. Spring is in full.
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John Holmberg
But it's, you know, and now I'm getting.
Brady
All these comedy rooms are just a room without, you know, technically, it's supposed to be. There's no boundaries.
John Holmberg
Well, there's boundaries because of, because of setting, but there are no boundaries in what's funny to you on the topic.
Brady
And, and, and plenty of comedians, you know, can go down that way. All right. Not funny. Yeah doesn't mean they're.
John Holmberg
But it's because it's malicious.
Brady
Trying stuff.
John Holmberg
When malicious kicks in. That's a. It's. It's a. It's an art.
Brady
Yeah.
John Holmberg
If you're malicious and trying to be funny, it's going to come across as malicious. It's good with no malice. Funny is just, you know, passable. And now I'm getting everybody's 9 11. I know. Brady's 9 11. Porkopolis closed for repairs. It's true. This one says, as I typed this message, john, more people are in slavery than in any other time in history. Who we make about jokes about slavery. It's actually going on as he speaks. I guess that's what Donovan's trying to say. He's probably true.
Brett Vesley
Every.
John Holmberg
There's a ton of bad stuff going on. If we don't joke about it, we're going to lose it. Laughing at a funeral is amazing. I laugh at a lot of stuff. I'm like, oh, that's dark. My brain just took that to a dark place. It doesn't make me a horrible person. It just makes me have a sense of humor that goes places that even I sometimes am surprised at. Oh, I'm so tired of the stick up their ass. People can't take it. Daniel. See, this is why our audience is great. Yeah, you're right, Holberg. Stupid. Breed. Stupid and breed pussies. That's it. That's what it is. The, the, the. The wimpy nature of those kids standing in line waiting to get their tickets from the cops were also raised by people who were like, that wasn't funny.
Leo Martinez
And I'm calling someone.
John Holmberg
Now. Everybody's in on this. That's my 911 too. Leo ain't wrong. Repeal the 19 somewhere. Now this turned into people wanting women not to vote and out. And you know what, guys? You're emailing. I'm just repeating. I'll be the one who gets the call.
Leo Martinez
I can't believe how much you hate women.
John Holmberg
I don't hate women.
Leo Martinez
You say things that make it till you have.
John Holmberg
I don't hate women. I make fun of women because they're there, just like you guys make fun of me. It's the WNBA of comedy. You can make fun of me all day long, say I got aids, my giant nose, I'm ugly, and all this. And I take it because you know what? I don't have a stick up my ass. But I make fun of you. And I'll get a call from you. Hate all.
Leo Martinez
You can't Joke about us.
John Holmberg
Why? I've actually had a woman get mad at me about things I've said. And the last I swear to you, this happened, it was when we were doing the local artist thing, and I made fun of local artists for being, you know. You know, you're not a good artist if the word local's in front of you. Yeah, just you. Good artists don't have the word local involved at all. It's like a local band, just not a thing. You're not good yet.
Brady
They hate that.
John Holmberg
Yeah. Oh. And they went crazy. I'm like, oh, local artists here, they banded together and got so mad, and a lady was mad at me, saying I hated all this stuff about you and blah, blah, blah. I'm like, all right. I didn't like what you said at all, and the words you were saying were offensive. And I'm like, okay. And I took it. And she goes, you're just gonna sit there and take it? And then she called me an ftard. You're a tard. And I'm like, hey, hey, hey. Now you've crossed the line. Because I've got two kids, and both of them are. And she started to giggle, and I'm like, boom. Gotcha, bitch. I'm like, see, you're laughing.
Leo Martinez
Well, that was just stupid.
John Holmberg
Yeah, but you're laughing, and we're both laughing at something terrible. I don't know what a tard looks like, but I assume it's a degree worse than retarded. And nobody's shooting for that.
Brett Vesley
Found Donovan a shirt. Donovan and Leo.
John Holmberg
A shirt For Repeal the 19th Amendment is available online. You didn't have to make that or anything.
Brett Vesley
No, it's.
John Holmberg
Did Lincoln have.
Brett Vesley
I don't know.
John Holmberg
There's. Lincoln's on. There's the 19th Amendment. It's the woman vote. Right. Just because I'm not very bright, I might be talking about something. I don't know. Revoke the 19th amendment. There are several. There are tons. Several shirts. Now. There's one that celebrates the 19th Amendment. It says the women's right to vote. The suffrage T shirt. That's cute. But I wouldn't want to be friends with any woman wandering around with that on. She's gonna get mouthy. Repeal the Night Teeth. I would wear that just to see what people did. There's a hoodie. There's, like, American Eagles. That's a great one.
Brett Vesley
That's not bad.
John Holmberg
That looks like something you'd buy at a Harley. Sh. Pretty neat. Repeal the 19th Amendment shirts. That is fantastic.
Brett Vesley
Hurry now. Maybe you can get one for you fest.
John Holmberg
Do I mean it? No. Is it funny? Hysterical. Especially if a woman's wearing it.
Brett Vesley
That's the funny part. Look at the display. There's one there. Yeah, it's another one.
John Holmberg
T shirts are not murder and they can't hurt you. So if you see one with a message you don't like, don't call the.
Brady
F on the first date.
John Holmberg
Don't call Mark Curtis the second you see a T shirt you don't like and stir this up. Mobs are never right. Mobs are never. And it's. Today is the day for protest. And you watch it. People go out with a good intention of like, we're gonna. Protests are great, but they lose focus and the next thing you know they're throwing trash cans through the windows of the Crate and Barrel in a piano store. It's like, what happened here Gets feeded so quick because they feed each other the. This is going. This. That's why you watch the news and they're like, it's the end of the world constitutional crisis. You know, if he does this, this and this and this are probably gonna happen. And then five years from now, we look back and go, remember when Rachel Maddow said we were all gonna be living in concentration camps? Remember when Sean Hannity said that, you know, we were all gonna be lit on fire by Obama? They try to make you lose your mind over things that have not occurred. Everything's possible, everyone. Sean Rockefeller just emailed in. He can't see he's got a 9 11. This email just came in, says my son doesn't have a stick in his ass at all, but he does have a ruler in his throat. And the day I found out my son was gay was my 911 signed Dan Holmberg. That's from my dad, for crying out loud. And I'm not gay, Dad. I wasn't measuring the depth of my throat. I bent down with a ruler in my mouth and it jammed in. It hit the ground. What were you doing with a ruler on the ground? I lay on my tummy and do my homework like a twink.
Brett Vesley
Now I'm sending out links for those T shirts.
John Holmberg
Yeah.
Brett Vesley
People are like, dude, where's that 19 where I'm ordering one?
John Holmberg
We're going to see a lot of repeal the 19th. It's funny because I don't think anybody means it or is anybody. But nobody's going to go march on Washington trying to get the women's right to vote to go away. We know that's A step too far because it's no longer funny. Now we're talking malicious Tempe Tavern putting a shirt out and people actually thought it was another 9 11.
Leo Martinez
How dare you compare the two.
John Holmberg
Oh, stop it. Guess what? This t shirt's your 911 too. Because you. You didn't get this upset when the buildings went down. Too many dumb people. And this is the Internet's fault. Have a voice. Too many dumb people fire off something and then get more dumb people to click that little thumbs up thing. And they're like, wow, I have over 250 people agreeing with me. I must be some sort of movement leader. I should go public with this. Even beyond the Internet. Too many dumb people have something to say and an outlet to say it. I'm a dumb person with an outlet to say it. But guess what I say all the time. Hey, by the way, I'm pretty dumb. All this stuff is. Pretty much everything I say is a frivolous garbage. This one said, John, I can't believe you. A woman got mad at you for something you said. This never happened. You're a liar, Donovan. Yeah, you're right, Donovan. Women never get mad at things for what they said. I just don't know what happened to sticks and stones. I don't know what happened. Like, I'm uncomfortable, so I'm rooting for everyone to fall. Your uncomfortable is somebody else's. Hilarious. Live with it. If it's a personal attack on you, your name's being used and you're being destroyed by someone. That's not funny. That's an attack. It might be funny, but you still have a right to go, wow, I'm being disparaged. That's. There's rules against that. We lost track of something a long time ago. It's coming around again. But. And I didn't realize how much. So one bad thing about the Internet is too many dummies have voices. One great thing about the Internet is the dark humor lives on that more than it's ever lived ever. And everybody acts like it doesn't. But repeal the 19th amendment. There's 30 different designs on those shirts because they're selling. There's enough. There's enough demand out there for the repeal the 19th shirts that they came up with multiple designs, something like that.
Brady
I'm going to be looking for one.
John Holmberg
Me too. I don't think people wear them outside. I think they have them in their house. I have a shirt that I got that I thought was fun and I don't wear it because out of context. It's not funny. But every time I go through my T shirts, like, what T shirt will I wear today? I have a maroon T shirt with a picture of Anne Frank on it. And every day I go through and I forget she's there. And then her little face pops up when I'm, you know, moving the hangers and I'm like. I giggle every time. Like, who would own that? Oh, yeah, you. I never wear it because it's. But it's a weird shirt. And the fact I bought it was, somebody made this. I need to own that because someone made. And it's not a mean picture. It's just a picture of her. It's not doing anything. It's not. It's not filtered. There's no bad. It's just. Just smiling. And Frank, just a great maroon shirt with a black and white picture on the front that I'm afraid to wear anywhere because why would I? You're asking for it now. If I was going on stage at a comedy club, I'd pop it right on because it's absurd and I find that hilarious. Anyway, Tempe Tavern. The ball's on you. The balls on this tavern. Hey, we got busted. Looks like we're gonna lose our license. We should print T shirts. This is our 9 11. Yep. Dummies. But to and to who? And also, by the way, to the local news. Troy Hayden, if you're out there. Ian Schwartz, if you're out there. You guys need to start kind of stepping on this too. When some lunatic lady calls you and says, can you believe that?
Leo Martinez
I'm so offended.
John Holmberg
Like, all right, lady, calm. This isn't news. This is salacious nonsense. Morning. Sick.
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John Holmberg
Holmberg's morning sickness. A woman in Paradise Valley was met when. Are they not upset?
Brady
Just life wouldn't be normal if there was nothing to be upset.
John Holmberg
That's their board all day. Their. Their board meeting for the fake charity they run is not till Friday. They got nothing to do all week, so they just spend days just being miserable, living off the dime of some guy who actually succeeded. And then they wander around and find things to get upset about. If it's not a tree that's overgrown into their yard, it's a root that's wrecking a sidewalk. And God forbid you give them the ammunition to say a tavern. They don't even know where it is or would never go to. Had the had the balls to say hour 9 11. She watches a lot of Fox news. She contributes to tunnels to towers, and she thinks she's the savior of the planet. So she's got a false sense of importance so she can call the news and get things done. And unfortunately the news says, oh, rich white lady mad. We should probably run to that instead of just, you know. Hi, Channel 12 News Desk.
Leo Martinez
I saw a thing on the thing that tavern put in. It's hour 9 11. And I want it stopped and I want you to talk about it.
John Holmberg
I'm sorry, ma' am. That's not news. You can go yourself now. Go complain about a tree in your yard.
Leo Martinez
Oh, yeah, you know about the tree. The leaves from my neighbor are dripping in my pool.
John Holmberg
Yeah, that's news to you.
Brady
It just tells me there's not enough charity balls going on right now.
John Holmberg
She's not getting too hot. She's got to get in a committee and make herself feel important by raising money to not stop a disease.
Leo Martinez
I've been on the board to stop Sickle cell for a long time because I care about the Afro can Americans.
John Holmberg
Thanks, ma' am. It's going great. You're really making headway there with that.
Brady
The stress is, I got a winner. We're going to use this trip that.
John Holmberg
We bought at the auction, right? I got one of those right now. I got one for going to Bali because I went to an auction to raise money to stay, but they gave me a trip to Bali. Now I paid.
Brady
See, you got things to deal with.
John Holmberg
I do, but I'm not complaining. I looked around that room. I saw a lot of suits. I saw an awful lot of liquor and a lot of money going towards a charity, which was a great thing. But you're right. At the end of the day, a couple people wandered off with sushi parties, and I had a trip to Bali in my pocket because I won a drawing. I don't know where those came from. Half of me wants to give it to some of the sick dogs that I'm trying to help out at that chair. Do you shelter dogs? Want to go to Bali? Is there anything I can do for the. I don't know that I'll ever use it anyway, so shut up is what I'm saying. That's all. Let the professionals handle what's funny and what's not. Tempe Tavern. Great job. I'll be the judge of whether or not it's funny and who has a stick up their ass. That's what we should do. We should have that also be part of our justice program. Who's. Was it funny or you've got a stick up your ass. And that's my ultimate judge to say, hmm, Kind of funny. And clearly, you have a stick up your ass, so I'm gonna go with which one has the. You have the stick way up your ass. And that was mildly fine. I'm gonna go with funny on this one. Yeah, of course. There's plenty of stuff that I don't find Amy Schumer. I don't find her funny at all. I find her wildly offensive, disgusting. But to go to Brady's line of logic, just not my cup of tea. Some people might think it's funny. I don't understand 3 11. You don't understand Green Day, but I Get that? People like them. I'm not trying to have them canceled. That's just my opinion.
Brett Vesley
I mean, I'm trying to have Fish canceled, but that's a whole other subject.
John Holmberg
I'm trying to have Fish and everyone who goes to a fish show canceled. Yes. Yeah, for sure. Because they're just awful. That's an awful group of people. That's a horrendous group of humanity that frankly, should just be eradicated from the earth in any means possible. But that's not. You know.
Brady
And I'm trying to get Fish do a backyard concert at your place.
John Holmberg
That's right. And I'm trying to burn that down. My own home. If Fish was in my house, I'd burn it down, because you're never getting that stink out anyway. See? And to those of you, I'm not really gonna burn my house down if Fish shows up. I'm just gonna kill myself because I know Fish. I'm not really gonna. Oh, to all those events. I'm not really gonna kill myself. I know suicide's not funny. I'm not gonna kill myself if I know Fish. I'm gonna kill Fish. Oh, I know. That's a. I can't. You can't kill a band cause you don't like. I know. I know people. A murder's not funny. I'm not gonna kill Fish. I'm just gonna show them pictures of O.J. simpson and make him afraid. I might. I know O.J. simpson's not funny. I know. I know. You can go down the list all day of the references that aren't, how long have I lived off O.J. simpson? Impression. And you want to go to the is this guy funny or not? Thing. If you look at it from a perspective of murder, it's nothing funny about OJ it's all your perspective.
Brady
It's been certified very good.
John Holmberg
It's great. Kato Kaelin said it's. He couldn't tell the difference. Freaked out. He got chills. A great impression. If you boil it down from a perspective, I'm looking at it going, well, O.J. simpson killed people, and you're making jokes. Yeah. Oh, yeah.
Leo Martinez
Of course.
John Holmberg
You can look at that and say, this is terrible. That's what makes it funny. I have a shirt that has OJ on it, another shirt that's printed, and it says lady Killer on the shirt. That's hilarious. Anyway, what are you gonna do? People want to know the update on your generator.
Brady
Yesterday's picking up today.
John Holmberg
You are going to get it now. Wait, wait.
Brady
Why are You.
John Holmberg
And you're still picking it up?
Brady
Yeah. I'm going to go get it.
John Holmberg
Why. Why won't he drop it off?
Brady
He's in a wheelchair.
John Holmberg
No, he.
Brady
I don't. I just said.
John Holmberg
That's not funny.
Brady
Sorry.
Brett Vesley
This is Brady's 911.
John Holmberg
That's Br. Yeah. This generator's 911. You still have to drive all the way. Are you gonna go to lunch with him, too? You son of a bitch.
Brady
No, no, I have another lunch. But maybe I will do a second lunch with him.
John Holmberg
You have a lunch, then you're gonna shoot on over, grab your possessions from a guy who's disrespected you top to bottom. Is he gonna be there today, at least to help you carry it?
Brady
We'll find out this morning. Maybe something.
Brett Vesley
Comes Thriller down there to pick it up?
John Holmberg
Yeah, he left yesterday.
Brady
We call a guy, might not know what it looks like.
John Holmberg
He left yesterday to go get it. We call a guy with a massive birth defect Thriller because he walks like he's in the. In the. In the video. Tempe Tavern's got some lady up their ass because of our 9 11. I don't know how you live like that. Wouldn't you just be mad all the time? You turn this show on?
Leo Martinez
They call a crippled boy Thriller.
John Holmberg
I have to protect him. Oh, 9 11. What about people.
Leo Martinez
What about people who were in 9 11? That's terrible.
John Holmberg
Oh, what a terrible. He just said he's gonna kill fish. You live in fear constantly that somebody's gonna say something that's gonna make you jump off a bridge. I know jumping off bridges, it's. It's not funny.
Leo Martinez
What about the family who had their son tragically leap off a bridge? Do you think of them?
John Holmberg
Never ever do I think of them. That's horrible to think about. Anyway, go get your generator and raise it above your head and smash something at that guy's house. Oops, sorry. On the way out without help, I got a little careless with the generator. And I might have dinged your car up a little bit.
Brett Vesley
We can call some of the ghouls and have them go pick it up for you.
John Holmberg
Oh, yeah. Do you want us to get some listeners to go out and grab your generator for you?
Brady
If he cancels this time, David Vasquez or something?
John Holmberg
Brady, you don't have time. He doesn't have time for you, you don't have time for him. I'm gonna send a couple people out. Out. I got the gate code. We'll come right in. Got a couple guys and we'll send Winston and.
Brett Vesley
And Thunder Horse. President John.
John Holmberg
President John. Hey, man. I'm here to pick up my friend's generator. Maybe some other stuff along the way. Yeah.
Brett Vesley
Excuse me. Are you one of those Crenshaw Mafia?
John Holmberg
Oh, my God. All right, you guys stand outside, and I'll open the garage door. Holmes. Holmes. Excuse me. Holmes. Excuse me, Holmes. I don't believe that's the generator. That isn't a generator. Actually, you're pick your. You have the refrigerator on a dolly. I mean, that's a Viking range. I don't know what you think that. All right, I guess you're gonna load that in the truck, too. All right, well, essay. I suppose this belongs to you now. Yeah. Did you get into a fight with him yesterday? On phone at all?
Brady
Just text.
John Holmberg
Yeah, but was it. Was it heated?
Brett Vesley
No.
Brady
You know, I told him, just keep it.
John Holmberg
Yeah, I know that. And he said, ah, come on.
Brady
Yeah.
John Holmberg
And you said, all right, I'll come get it tomorrow.
Brady
Yeah. And the reason why is it I have to pick it up because it doesn't fit in the bag of his Ferrari. So is that true?
John Holmberg
No.
Brady
He's got another car.
John Holmberg
The money he saved, the Ferrari also, though.
Brady
Yeah.
Brett Vesley
The money he saved on a generator. He can go rent a truck over at Home Depot for 20 bucks.
John Holmberg
This guy has a Ferrari, and he called you and said, I need to borrow something that's valued. That's valued at about 400 bucks now. That's not funny. Of course, I have my angles. I have my thoughts.
Brady
It won't surprise you.
John Holmberg
He's got a Ferrari and he's asking to borrow stuff.
Brett Vesley
Oh, we've already got four people volunteering.
John Holmberg
To go back down there.
Brett Vesley
I'll clean that garage out.
John Holmberg
Oh, we got people that'll rob them blind. We can't really be accomplices to that. Although I'm not against it. I know robberies aren't funny. I know to the one mom out there that's mad at the Tempe Tavern that's on a rampage with her notepad.
Leo Martinez
I'm going after them. I'm gonna get them.
John Holmberg
Good for you. You're taking away what a bunch of people love. Loved. Anyway, it's my solemn promise to you that if anybody takes us down, we'll have a podcast. Let's just advertise that immediately. If we're ever off the air here, there'll be a podcast the next day. Pay attention to Brett Vesley's Facebook or Instagram. If we ever go down, we'll have A podcast that's probably even better than this.
Brady
Tomorrow, look to the sky at night for the signal.
John Holmberg
It'll be a dick in the air. When you see that, just know. I know, ladies, these visible dicks in the air aren't funny. But yeah, just know that and tell your friends to say, hey, look, if it ever goes off the air and you're like, hey, Holmberg, show's not on the air anymore. Just know that within a 24 hour period we can fire up this very same thing on steroids tomorrow. We don't want to. It's a lot of work. But if it happened, so far so good, knock on wood. I don't really want that to occur. But you know, if somebody's going after Tempe Tavern for the T shirts when they should be mad at them for serving underage kids drinks, that's the real thing they should be upset about. But no, the T shirt pushed him over the edge. Idiots. We're surrounded by them. Just know that Brett. We got to keep Brett's. Brett's Instagram is the bat signal. And then it'll just say it's time. And then we'll start some weird thing, some underground pirate nonsense. Craziness. Let's get a wake up song, shall we? 585-9800 A good one. We'll scream it together. It's 98K but he. It's out of control. Now. It's John Holmberg here from the morning sickness and we're talking to you about reactdefense.com the home of tactical black self defense training. You know all about it by now. Get in great shape, learn stuff you didn't know you needed to know. Prepare for a life you just can't prepare for until you start doing the work. And right now the price is unbeatable. Two months of personal training right there. Hands on React Defense self defense system. It is. 199 bucks for two months. You're not getting that anywhere else and all you have to do is go to reactdefense.com the home of tactical black.
Holmberg's Morning Sickness - Arizona Episode: May 1, 2025 Title: Tempe Tavern Is Now Selling TShirts That Say 'Our 9/11' On The Back And People Can't Take A Joke Anymore Or Allow Things They Don't Think Are Funny
Overview In this compelling episode of Holmberg's Morning Sickness on Arizona's #1 Morning Radio Show, hosts John Holmberg, Brady Bogen, Bret Vesely, and Dick Toledo delve into a controversial local incident involving the Tempe Tavern. The tavern, recently raided for serving 162 underage patrons, responded by releasing T-shirts emblazoned with the phrase "Our 9/11" on the back. This move sparked intense debate among the hosts about the boundaries of humor, free speech, and societal sensitivity.
1. The Tempe Tavern Raid and Immediate Aftermath The episode kicks off with John Holmberg recounting the recent raid at Tempe Tavern, where authorities issued 162 citations for underage drinking. Holmberg expresses his disbelief and frustration, questioning how the establishment managed to remain operational despite the significant violation.
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2. Tempe Tavern's "Our 9/11" T-Shirts: A Bold Statement Holmberg discusses the tavern's response to the raid—the creation and sale of T-shirts that feature the provocative slogan "Our 9/11." He finds the move both audacious and humorous, highlighting it as an example of outrageous marketing that pushes societal norms.
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3. The Debate Over Offensive Humor The conversation shifts to a heated debate about whether comparing the tavern's incident to the tragic events of September 11, 2001, is appropriate. Holmberg argues that humor often involves making absurd comparisons and that offense is subjective.
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4. Personal Anecdotes and Host Banter Brett Vesley shares a personal story about his son being aware of the Tempe Tavern situation, adding a relatable dimension to the discussion. The hosts engage in playful banter, emphasizing the generational gap in perceptions of humor and propriety.
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5. The Role of the Media and Public Reaction Holmberg criticizes how the media amplifies outrage over such incidents, suggesting that a lack of humorlessness contributes to societal tension. He posits that modern audiences are less tolerant of jokes, leading to swift public backlash.
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6. Exploring the Limits of Free Speech in Comedy The hosts delve deeper into the ethics of comedy, debating where the line should be drawn between free expression and respect for traumatic events. They discuss historical references and how certain tragedies have been contextualized in humor over time.
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7. Mock Scenarios and Hypotheticals To illustrate their points, the hosts create hypothetical situations where other tragic events are used in humor, questioning public reactions to each scenario. This segment highlights the subjective nature of humor and offense.
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8. Reaction and Backlash from the Community The episode touches on emails and listener feedback criticizing Holmberg's stance, illustrating the real-world implications of the discussion. Holmberg defends his position, emphasizing the importance of maintaining a sense of humor despite disagreements.
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9. Conclusion: The Future of Comedy and Free Expression In wrapping up, the hosts reiterate their belief in the necessity of humor, even when it treads on sensitive topics. They advocate for personal responsibility in interpreting and reacting to jokes, rather than seeking to censor or cancel individuals.
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Final Thoughts This episode of Holmberg's Morning Sickness offers a thought-provoking exploration of the delicate balance between humor and offense. Through lively debate and personal anecdotes, the hosts challenge listeners to reconsider their perceptions of what constitutes acceptable comedy and the role of free speech in everyday interactions. Whether you agree or disagree with their viewpoints, the discussion underscores the evolving landscape of humor in modern society.