05-13-25 - Hot Releases - John Wonders If A Bee Knows It Will Die If It Stings Someone - Doom - Duster - Murderbot - Tetrarch - Three Days Grace

Summary

Holmberg's Morning Sickness - Arizona Episode: May 13, 2025 - Hot Releases - John Wonders If A Bee Knows It Will Die If It Stings Someone - Doom - Duster - Murderbot - Tetrarch - Three Days Grace
Release Date: May 13, 2025

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Main Discussion: Do Bees Know They'll Die If They Sting?

In this engaging and thought-provoking segment, host John Holmberg delves into the intriguing question: Do bees possess the self-awareness to understand that stinging results in their demise? This conversation sparks a lively debate among the hosts, blending humor with speculative biology.

• John Holmberg ([02:19]): "Do you think bees are aware that they only get one sting?"
  John introduces the central question, prompting his co-hosts to explore the cognitive abilities of bees.

• Dick Toledo ([02:35]): "I think somebody slipped me some weed."
  Dick responds humorously, attributing the deep contemplation to possible intoxication, setting a light-hearted tone.

• Sean Knight ([05:22]): "It's not a threat if they smooth out their stingers."
  Sean offers a speculative solution, pondering if bees could evolve their stingers to avoid self-harm, thereby altering their defensive mechanisms.

• John Holmberg ([07:05]): "How come nobody's opened a testicle restaurant called D Nuts?"
  While deviating from the main topic, John injects humor into the conversation, showcasing the hosts' playful banter.

The discussion oscillates between scientific curiosity and comedic relief, highlighting the hosts' dynamic chemistry. They consider whether bees' stinging behavior is purely instinctual or if there's an element of calculated decision-making involved.

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Hot Releases

The hosts transition seamlessly into the "Hot Releases" segment, spotlighting the latest in entertainment and media.

1. Doom: The Dark Ages

• Dick Toledo ([10:01]): "Doom. The Dark Ages is the biggest game out this week."
  Dick introduces Bethesda's latest installment in the Doom series, emphasizing its popularity.

• John Holmberg ([10:17]): "I didn't play the second Doom, but I liked it a lot."
  John shares his limited experience with the series, expressing enthusiasm for the new release.

• Byron ([10:39]): "Yeah, it's been out. The soundtrack's good."
  Byron appreciates the game's soundtrack, adding to the anticipation surrounding its release.

2. Duster (TV Series)

• Dick Toledo ([10:53]): "Duster is a new series that premieres on Thursday."
  Introduction to "Duster," a new series featuring David Keith, offering a 70s-themed narrative with intense characters.

• Byron ([11:44]): "Rowdy Roddy Piper. I don't remember that."
  Byron muses on the cast, recalling Rowdy Roddy Piper's involvement and adding personal anecdotes.

3. Murderbot (Apple TV+)

• Dick Toledo ([11:53]): "Murderbot is coming out on Apple TV."
  Announcement of the latest season of "Murderbot," highlighting its unique premise of a self-aware security unit navigating human interactions.

• John Holmberg ([11:58]): "Once they learn to lie, they'll learn to kill."
  John quotes a pivotal line from the show, underscoring its themes of autonomy and rebellion.

4. Tetrarch

• Byron ([15:00]): "Tetrarch. This is pretty insane."
  Byron introduces "Tetrarch," though specifics about the show are limited, generating curiosity among listeners.

5. Three Days Grace - "Apologies"

• Byron ([15:47]): "Three Days Grace just released this a couple days ago. This is 'Apologies.'"
  Byron highlights the latest track from Three Days Grace, discussing the band's lineup and musical evolution.

• John Holmberg ([16:01]): "It's bees and elephants. It's not even close to the same."
  Using a humorous analogy, John differentiates the band's new sound from classic groups, emphasizing their unique style.

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Additional Highlights

• Sean Knight & the Liver King ([12:27]):
  The hosts briefly touch upon the controversial figure known as the Liver King, discussing his unconventional diet and public persona.

• Rocky Mountain Testicle Festivals ([13:25]):
  A humorous segment about unique culinary festivals, specifically focusing on testicle-based dishes and their cultural significance.

  • John Holmberg ([13:10]): "How come nobody's opened a testicle restaurant called D Nuts?"
    John puns on the topic, blending humor with the subject matter.

• Secret Lives of Mormon Wives Season Two ([13:58]):
  Introduction to the new season, highlighting its provocative themes and the ensuing drama among the hosts.

  • John Holmberg ([14:04]): "Wait, The Mormon wives are swinging?"
    Demonstrating surprise and intrigue, John engages the audience with the show's controversial content.

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Closing Remarks

As the episode progresses towards its conclusion, the hosts maintain their signature blend of humor, insightful commentary, and candid discussions. They tease upcoming topics and express optimism for the show's future developments.

• John Holmberg ([17:49]): "I discovered that bees are self-aware. Holy."
  Wrapping up the main discussion, John humorously asserts the newfound "discovery," highlighting the show's playful tone.

• Dick Toledo ([18:05]): "It's not weird. It's pretty cool actually. No membership fee."
  Dick concludes the episode with a promotional note, maintaining the show's seamless integration of content and advertisements.

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Conclusion

This episode of Holmberg's Morning Sickness offers a delightful mix of speculative discussions, entertainment news, and light-hearted banter. Whether pondering the consciousness of bees or dissecting the latest in gaming and television, the hosts engage listeners with their unique perspectives and infectious energy. The inclusion of notable quotes and timestamps enhances the summary's richness, providing a comprehensive overview for both regular and new listeners.

Transcript

[Byron]

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[John Holmberg]

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[Byron]

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[John Holmberg]

The old method of treatment for a person in this condition was to throw him in jail. I think somebody slipped me some. I think somebody slipped me some weed.

[Dick Toledo]

Oh definitely.

[John Holmberg]

I think that question right there has me spinning. Before that start the Whole show with. Could you win the Masters? Just putting. That's been on my brain. That's a little bit of a high conversation. And one. I just was reading this.

[Dick Toledo]

That residual effect of whatever you've been doing, isn't that what pot guys get? They get a residual.

[John Holmberg]

What have I been doing?

[Dick Toledo]

I don't know. You just said you're high. Maybe you.

[John Holmberg]

No, I think I don't. Look. It's a granola bars and coke zero. Maybe the combination is some sort of thc. All I said was Brady brought up bees earlier. Do you think bees are aware that they only get one sting?

[Dick Toledo]

So he's mad. Ah, damn it. We had a waste on this guy.

[John Holmberg]

Tripp just goes, you're a disaster. And he left the room. Do you think they know he said no? I think because we'd have to admit that they're self aware. Nope. And then he sat down because he doesn't want to think that bees can think because then they could take a job of a radio executive pretty easily. Thank you very much. Only bees ran the show. So much more efficient. But when they. When they. Oh, if we ran. If bees ran the colony here.

[Dick Toledo]

Oh my God.

[John Holmberg]

Not a single second. When. When b. Jenny came down the owner. We have to go with more money and less of this and yes, queen. And it would be done. It would be done. But then they would have to not. Then they would just willy nilly be a bunch of bees just dying because it would be cavalier about the sting. And if you have a bee land on you, you got to think of the bees perspective of looking at you going, what the is that thing?

[Dick Toledo]

Oh, it's like your tactical black training.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah.

[Dick Toledo]

Are we. Are we doing this?

[John Holmberg]

But you don't land on the bad guy. Look, I'm telling you right now, if a dude was 96 times bigger than me, I'm not standing on his arm without stinging them. The only defense I've got all the time. That's what I'm saying.

[Sean Knight]

Rescue.

[John Holmberg]

Yes. You're making my point. They don't sting you.

[Sean Knight]

Yeah, but think of it.

[John Holmberg]

But Brady, listen. Think from here.

[Sean Knight]

It's not a threat.

[John Holmberg]

You don't know that. You don't know. The bee doesn't know that. He's.

[Dick Toledo]

Maybe the bee didn't. Didn't go. Is this guy that dunked me?

[John Holmberg]

Yeah. He's currently waterlogged. We're taking him out of the pool. Second you're making my point for me.

[Sean Knight]

Anything 90 know that I'm saving them. Then why wouldn't they know anything 90.

[John Holmberg]

Times larger than me, at least, is taking a punch from me the second it touches me.

[Dick Toledo]

Look at fire ants. All they do is bite.

[John Holmberg]

Look at Chihuahuas.

[Dick Toledo]

Yeah, that true.

[John Holmberg]

They just start shaking the second something bigger comes along. A bee's looking at us like, jesus, those lumbering giants are everywhere. But don't sting them. You only get one texter.

[Dick Toledo]

Buzz, buzz, mother.

[John Holmberg]

Buzz, buzz, mother. I think we had that as a character for a while there. Buzz, buzz, mother. I think that was my Africanized beast, which is why I don't want the archives to play ever.

[Dick Toledo]

Oh, that one won't see the light of day.

[John Holmberg]

That is Africanized bees coming up from Mexico.

[Dick Toledo]

Anyway, I put an attachment on some of those things in the vault that says you have to sign this NDA.

[John Holmberg]

Give it or pay for it. Here's the other thing. And I'm not saying that because we would have to say they're self aware. I'm not saying they're self aware the way humans are, but I wonder if it's innate in a B to know you only get one.

[Sean Knight]

Yeah, because the point you're saying it has to decipher, it has the ability.

[John Holmberg]

Has to make cipher.

[Sean Knight]

That this is a threat.

[John Holmberg]

Yes. So then it has the power of thought to say, yeah, break out the only weapon I've got.

[Sean Knight]

Again, my solving to the. Their stingers are barbed. They could just smooth them out.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah. If they could have another bead like a needle.

[Dick Toledo]

Beep, beep, beep, beep.

[Byron]

Yeah.

[John Holmberg]

It wouldn't rip out of him.

[Dick Toledo]

Oh, yeah. Okay.

[John Holmberg]

The most insane part of this conversation is we learned that Sean Knight is not big into pot, and yet he dresses like he owns a chiba hut.

[Byron]

Can somebody slip me some weed? This conversation.

[John Holmberg]

All right, Shut up, Brett. That Sean Knight.

[Dick Toledo]

No, Patience.

[John Holmberg]

Dresses like Sean Knight's been kicked out of chiba huts because it's like. Come on, man, you're overdoing it. It's not a costume.

[Sean Knight]

You guys got me bourbon?

[John Holmberg]

It's not a costume. It's a lifestyle.

[Dick Toledo]

No, dude, turn around a little too far, pal. We didn't make enough today.

[John Holmberg]

I'm sorry our conversation got a little too heady for you.

[Byron]

Too weedy.

[John Holmberg]

It is a little weedy.

[Dick Toledo]

Oh, it's a lot weedy. It was all weedy.

[John Holmberg]

But I'm telling you right now, total.

[Sean Knight]

Jay Cutler on this.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah, yeah, but you know what? Every. He'll be a little drunk, and he'll turn. Hey, Matthias, do you think. Peace. No, he's gonna. It's coming back up. Yes, it is. You're gonna drink your mallard. This one's for that.

[Dick Toledo]

You know what I've been thinking about?

[John Holmberg]

Yeah. Hey, my dad. Prayers.

[Byron]

No.

[John Holmberg]

That'S an easy one. That was the first.

[Dick Toledo]

I haven't heard that one yet.

[John Holmberg]

Prayers. Hey, this one. Hey, Malia, do you ever think maybe bees don't know the bees are thinking. I only got this one shot. It's like Eminem. You only get one shot. Do not miss the chance and blow to bees.

[Dick Toledo]

Jeez. You're an idiot.

[John Holmberg]

You're an idiot. Oh, you know who says you're an idiot to that?

[Dick Toledo]

People with closed minds.

[John Holmberg]

Close minded dummy. Someone that's not willing to open their mind like Sean Knight. He's just not.

[Dick Toledo]

Whoa.

[John Holmberg]

He just.

[Dick Toledo]

That's too much credit for him.

[John Holmberg]

No, it isn't. Look at him. You have to have an open mind to dress like that. He knows Kohl's. He knows Kohl's is open and affordable, and yet he avoids it like the plague.

[Dick Toledo]

No, I'll choose Goodwill.

[John Holmberg]

I'll take something else. What do you got in your closet or garage? We're not making funny how you dress, Sean. We're just making fun of the clothes you're wearing.

[Dick Toledo]

We're making observations.

[John Holmberg]

It's time for the hot releases. Welcome. Sean's only here once, everyone. Like two months. You take a beating the second he walks in the door, I am shocked. You're not a weedy though. I'd lose that battle all day. If I saw your mug shot, I'd be like, that dude was stoned out of his mind. You don't do it at all. Not really. Means you do. Really?

[Byron]

In the last 10 minutes.

[John Holmberg]

Huh?

[Dick Toledo]

I've tried the seltzers.

[John Holmberg]

You sold it before? Is that what you just said?

[Byron]

Try seltzers.

[John Holmberg]

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[Byron]

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[John Holmberg]

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[Dick Toledo]

All right, real quick. Doom. The Dark Ages is the biggest game out this week. So it's by Bethesda. Same people that bring you Fallout Man.

[Byron]

How long has this game been out? I mean, like, for a while. The series.

[Dick Toledo]

This is like a big, I mean, online buzz for this.

[John Holmberg]

None of us ever got into it. I played the second new. I played the second doom.

[Dick Toledo]

I played doom 64. That was.

[John Holmberg]

I didn't play. Maybe I didn't play the second. The second one that I remember was around 2003. That was the.

[Byron]

Didn't come out in the 90s.

[Dick Toledo]

Yeah, I think 64 was on that.

[John Holmberg]

I think I played on a PlayStation 3 the first time, and I liked it a lot.

[Byron]

Yeah, it's been out. Yeah. Soundtrack's good.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah, Yeah. I just. It's a lot. Doom is a lot. All right.

[Dick Toledo]

You can get it on all major platforms.

[John Holmberg]

Graphics are incredible.

[Dick Toledo]

By the way, out on max this week, is Duster like the Plymouth? Yeah, from J.J. abrams. It's a new series that premieres on Thursday Upside Down.

[Byron]

Where's that guy from?

[John Holmberg]

That's David Keith. He was in Something about Mary and he's been. He's the. How'd you get the fiends over the Franks? Yeah.

[Dick Toledo]

He's got eight track.

[John Holmberg]

This is a 70s show. She is the rookie who thinks she can take down the Southwest. Al Capone. You're pretty intense. Because I play to win. What's this called? Duster.

[Byron]

Who's the driver? Magic on Wheel.

[John Holmberg]

I do love my job. Okay, so it's a little bit. I need you to come with me. Wow. I don't know what I'm looking at. I'm intrigued by this.

[Byron]

He was with Piper and they live.

[John Holmberg]

I don't know that. Oh, that Rowdy Roddy Piper. I don't remember that.

[Dick Toledo]

All right, John, from today's discussion, this one's for you. Murderbot coming out on Apple tv.

[John Holmberg]

They're telling us it's a SEC unit. I was built to protect and obey humans, and humans are idiots. But now that I've hacked my programming, I can do whatever I want as long as they don't find out. Once they learn to lie, they'll learn to kill. Somebody says wow. John the Bee conversation simultaneously flaming out and lighting up at the same time. That's right. Promise to you the show will be a lot more high over the next few years.

[Dick Toledo]

So I don't know if you guys remember this guy. He. He became famous, Internet famous. A few years back. He built an M supplement empire. He calls himself the Liver King.

[Sean Knight]

Oh, yeah.

[Dick Toledo]

On. By just eating nothing but liver.

[John Holmberg]

And now he's eating nothing but.

[Sean Knight]

And he was saying it was all natural and he got busted for.

[John Holmberg]

I. I now know why I read an article about him the other day is because there they said now all he does is eat testicles with that girl. I just. She was on there too. All right. It's guaranteed as quick as you are to do a story about Uranus, he's as fast to do DE's nuts. If you use the word test second. How come nobody's opened a. Like a testicle restaurant called D Nuts?

[Byron]

Yeah. Who want them?

[John Holmberg]

People eat them like crazy. Like, I've had turkey balls. If you had a. If they're available, people order them. You especially Novelty boy, I guarantee you.

[Sean Knight]

Festival up there in brass.

[John Holmberg]

I rest my taste.

[Dick Toledo]

Rocky Mountain Testicle Festivals in Montana.

[Byron]

Well, that's fitting.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah, they have. But they have them all over Denver has. They have Rocky. They eat the balls like crazy. I had turkey balls once, and they were like Popcorn shrimp. Bigger.

[Byron]

Those things?

[John Holmberg]

Not very. They're like little popcorn shrimp just grabbing like a handful.

[Byron]

Like M&MS. Or something or whatever.

[John Holmberg]

At first, because I didn't know it was turkey nuts. And then somebody told me, a little apprehensive. What do you mean, turkey nuts? Like you're eating turkey balls. And then I ate them one at a time for the flavor, and I realized this doesn't taste like shrimp.

[Dick Toledo]

All right, last one I got because Brett's got to get going is the Secret Lives of Mormon Wives. Season two is out.

[John Holmberg]

Okay.

[Sean Knight]

These girls are hot.

[Dick Toledo]

Well, and this one, this season, apparently, is about how they all swing.

[John Holmberg]

Say what?

[Byron]

All right.

[Dick Toledo]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[John Holmberg]

Wait, The Mormon wives are swinging?

[Dick Toledo]

Oh, yeah. Apparently.

[Byron]

Nice.

[John Holmberg]

Imagine everything to blow up like that.

[Byron]

Tom Brady's neighborhood.

[John Holmberg]

But it's a double edged sword.

[Unknown]

You're opening up yourself and your family to all kinds of drama.

[Byron]

Can I have a hug?

[John Holmberg]

You can have a handshake. Where is everyone? Yeah, that's what a Mormon handshake is. I'm trying to protect mom talk.

[Dick Toledo]

I don't feel like inviting the devil back in.

[John Holmberg]

I think everybody just needs to get.

[Unknown]

The freaking stick out of their. Anyone that comes in at this point is clout chasing. What the hell?

[John Holmberg]

Who's got Miranda? Oh, my gosh.

[Unknown]

Miranda is Taylor's girlfriend.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah. This is just. This is just tease porn.

[Sean Knight]

Yeah, exactly.

[Byron]

It's like Cinemax porn from back in the day.

[John Holmberg]

It's edging.

[Byron]

You don't see anything.

[Dick Toledo]

Quickly, we gotta get to Brett.

[John Holmberg]

I'm edging.

[Dick Toledo]

Gotta get through his stuff.

[John Holmberg]

I'm busy. I'm Damn.

[Dick Toledo]

Still talking about the bees.

[Byron]

We're gonna start with this one. This guy hit me up last week about it. Was it Tetrarch? I'm not sure, but he was. He's like, hey, man, I gotta. You gotta play this one. All right, fine.

[John Holmberg]

Tetrarch. Yeah, this is. We don't know. Ted Truck.

[Byron]

I've heard the name.

[John Holmberg]

I've never really have not.

[Byron]

I got most of their stuff.

[John Holmberg]

Do you? He's got the box set. Let's get that.

[Dick Toledo]

He's prepping for Rock Horse. All right, we'll do inward or upward after the break.

[John Holmberg]

All right, calm down.

[Dick Toledo]

Is that a girl?

[John Holmberg]

I didn't like the voice.

[Byron]

I think it's a dude. I think we did Sleep theory last week.

[Dick Toledo]

Yeah, so.

[Byron]

Okay, we'll skip that. Three Days Grace just released this a couple days ago. This is. Apologies.

[Dick Toledo]

I was gonna say I thought the old singer was back, but that's not him.

[Byron]

Well, they're both in the band.

[Dick Toledo]

Oh, they are?

[Byron]

Oh yeah, yeah.

[John Holmberg]

Oh, how else can I survive?

[Byron]

It's like the Temptations. I got multiple league singers.

[John Holmberg]

Nothing at all like the Temptations. Couldn't be less like the Temptation. I mean literally, it's apples. Apples and ice cream.

[Byron]

I don't want to hear it.

[John Holmberg]

It's bees and elephants. It's not even close to the same.

[Byron]

So I know Toledo's in a hurry, so we'll skip Pretty good. Morgan Wallen's got a new one out. I won't make you.

[John Holmberg]

So we're not playing N word or F word with that one, cuz he says it.

[Byron]

How about this one? If Creed wrote aerials from System of a down.

[John Holmberg]

Oh, right. Okay. Creed doing aerials. Who did this? Steve.

[Byron]

Wel.

[John Holmberg]

In the river. And.

[Byron]

It'S worse.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah, that's pretty dead on. That's good. How does the chorus got a total creep. And we are the ones who wanna choose. Always wanna be but you never wanna lose. That's annoyingly good.

[Dick Toledo]

All right, we gotta go.

[John Holmberg]

Time. All right. You're annoying, man. I don't even have this many commercials.

[Dick Toledo]

Yes.

[John Holmberg]

Good Christ, man. You and so popular.

[Dick Toledo]

You and your weedy conversation.

[John Holmberg]

So. Well, it was the B thing that did put us over the top, but I mean, still we don't have answers.

[Dick Toledo]

Well, we'll find him during the break.

[John Holmberg]

Will we? If that's true. One guy science you don't know. I discovered that bees are self aware. Holy. Anyway, so that's most of your hot releases. N word or F word? Coming up later. It's 98.

[Dick Toledo]

It's not weird. It's pretty cool actually. No membership fee.

[John Holmberg]

I have heard enough of this. It's John Holberg here from the morning sickness and we're talking to you about ReactDefense.com, the home of tactical Black self defense training. You know all about it by now. Get in great shape, learn stuff you didn't know you needed to know. Prepare for a life you just can't prepare for until you start doing the work. And right now the price is unbeatable. Two months of personal training right there. Hands on React defense self defense system. It is 199 bucks for two months. You're not getting that anywhere else and all you have to do is go to reactdefense.com, the home of tactical Black.

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