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Dick Toledo
You'Ve been deceived by an agent of Satan himself.
John Holmberg
He's evil sitting right here.
Dick Toledo
Come on. No, no, he's not. He's not evil. He's just a bit rude. Thank you quite kindly. They're miles to nowhere. Katie and Hobbs getting us started here on a Monday, and the sun's decided to show back up again. We knew you would be back, you son of a. But, yeah, thanks for the break. Beautiful. A lot of people kind of just letting this hole. You know what I do? I sort of both like and hate is how people just dismiss the crazy now. Like, we've done a good job of just saying, yeah, it's just what it is in a weird way. Somebody emailed and said, john, come on. Trump's just here for the jokes. I'm like, no, no, no, that's me. That's what I say, that I'm here for the jokes. I'm not. Trump shouldn't be here just for the jokes. That shouldn't be something. We're like, hey, that's great. Be thankful I'm here just for the last. I can't control anything. I don't want to get too high or too low about any decision some politician makes. It's out of my control. Nothing I can do. I don't get angry at Brady for thinking one way just because the two of us just shout at each other and end up making each other mad. And in the end, nothing's different. Whatever it is, it is. So I kind of do like that. But also, some of it needs to be stopped, like, immediately. The guy says, come on, John. My suggestion for the Wake up song today is my name is mud. For all of John's hatred towards people, the renter, the people that don't break down boxes, Biden's doubles and clones, sure, maybe they deserve a kiss upside the head with a baseball bat, but come on, John, you gotta let people live. And I do. I've never hit anybody in the head with a baseball on purpose. It's very important. Yeah, the. The Trump thing. There's a Few people that have emailed in that are. That are on board that aren't necessarily off board. I know it sounds crazy, but just hear me out. That's I. That's when you know you're crazy. You know you're crazy when you type out or say, I know this is nuts, but hear me out. And in a weird way, because I am here for the jokes. I hope he's right. I think it would be hilarious if we found out for the last five years after a weird execution that nobody even looked into, a bunch of people got together and said, build a. Build a Biden. Build a Biden would be a great bear. I'd go to build a Biden if that was in the mall. You build little stuff Biden's.
Katie
We find the actual Joe Biden in the garage in the green Corvette.
Dick Toledo
He's in the. Was in my vet for less forever. What happened? What happened? All right, sir, it's safe to wander around now. Yeah. All right. How's the deal says. This one says I've got 11 years sober. Congratulations, Nicholas. Last week, time travel. This week, fake AI president, robots. Both times. Listening to you three boobs talk about these subjects. All I want to do is down booze until I can understand the topic you're talking about. Hey, nobody told you to quit drinking. It's a better world when you do. I'll say that. You just couldn't control yourself. That's for. For sure. I'm. Look, we. I don't think any of us tried to explain how AI robots are built. Just. I just know that if one was built before I roll it out to the public, it's a little better than that. I mean that thing or.
Katie
That's an amazing design to be able to design something like that.
Dick Toledo
Helpless.
Katie
Yeah.
Dick Toledo
To play, to go to continually like devolve. Well, it doesn't get better. Realistic.
Katie
It's not devolving. It's basically.
Dick Toledo
Then what's the point of it?
Katie
There's no point. I'm just saying you have to design a robot to do that. You want it to act a certain way.
Dick Toledo
Right. But for the next four years you designed a robot because the last guy wasn't. The last guy wasn't good enough. You decided to build an exact clone of what was probably going to happen to him anyway.
Katie
Yeah. It doesn't make sense. But they had to design that robot.
Dick Toledo
I mean, they're. You stop right there and it doesn't make sense and then let's just stop. But they had to design the robot.
Katie
Why you would design it that way, right?
Dick Toledo
That's my point. Like, if you're like, dude, you're not. You'd be blown away at this. This robot we built, people won't know it's still do all the Biden isms, but it's going to get stuff done and we can roll it out anywhere. It never makes mistakes. And life, liberty, pursuit. You know, the thing, the robots. It's riffing again anyway and a few.
Katie
Of you worry me stamping for signatures.
Dick Toledo
Yeah, they did have the auto pen. See, again, I look, I think it's insane. I. The door is cracked for the possibility because I enjoy that and more so crack for the possibility because I'd find it hysterical. Hysterical. If Trump is right and he breaks out like a big board. Like he did the tariff thing at Liberation Day. Now it's truth about Joe Day and he's got a big board of evidence that Joe was. Here's his dead body.
Katie
He's got the blueprints like an iron man where they show the whole developing.
Dick Toledo
The suit and it always ends up going back to a Marvel movie because none of it's real. Then they wrapped him in cloth and they threw him down there with Osama. Then they threw at the robot. So strange. I just. Yeah, I don't get it. This guy says, johnny, I've always enjoyed the little radio magic tricks you do. Makes me appreciate the dedication to your craft. Making the crumbling the paper sound after you read an email. Took me this long to realize, wait a minute, there's no paper in an email. If I'm John or if I'm wrong John. And you print out these emails just to read and crumble them up on the air. You're even better than I thought. Always enjoy the show. Hope you guys keep it up for long. Yeah, I'm always crumpling papers because, yeah, we print them out. Paper crumpling, sound effects. That's insanity. We print everything. This guy. And then, you know, and then we go back to that flamethrower thing. The flamethrower things got me like, I'm not gonna. Like, there's no. My little peef. Last week is a whole lot less scary than a flamethrower. And now, you know, and some people are like, oh, it wasn't a flamethrower. It was a spray bottle with alcohol and fire, which is sort of a makeshift one that they're talking. But I mean, what kind of spray bottle? Like a ketchup bottle that you can shoot, you know, or like 15ft bug.
Katie
Spray thing that has some action.
Dick Toledo
Sure. But if I took one of those ketchup or mustard bottles that's, you know, you can shoot those pretty good distance. I'm giving ideas out and then filled it with alcohol or gasoline and then had a torch and I just hit the torch with that and it shot back. The only thing you'd worry about is it coming back on you and I'm blowing up the bottle in your hand. But man, that's. That fire is horrifying. Everybody talked about banning guns and we're going to get rid of guns and, well, you know, we'll have assault rifles that go away. Fire you can't ban. Cannot ever be banned. It's already banned. Like, don't light one. Okay. But you know, it's. Guns are technically banned to use on each other. We passed the law to say, hey, don't use these on each other. Like, you got it. And then we, you know, people still do. So no matter what kind of laws you pass, fire's one that you could never. There's nothing you can do about. You can't uninvent it. You can't stop making it. You can't stop making stuff that pushes it forward. Like there's nothing you can do. And that's. That's. I'm. Look, I don't want to start off on Monday saying that this is the helpless thing, but if bad dudes start going with fire, you're gonna wish that they built bigger guns for all of us because I don't know how to stop that otherwise. And this guy said, you know, and you know, you can ban flamethrowers. I don't know that I'm for banning much of anything because so far we're o for society on flamethrowers being used in for evil. I mean, aren't we. I don't.
Katie
It's a new tick tock trim.
John Holmberg
Yeah.
Dick Toledo
I don't remember a lot of flamethrower usage at all to where people are like, we gotta not give these to. I think pretty much flamethrowers have been, you know, kind of quiet for the most part. First look, I just found out a couple years ago you could buy one. I assumed they were on a list of like, don't give these to the general population. Like, they'll. They'll abuse. And we haven't been pretty good about it, I guess. I mean, maybe people with flamethrowers get away with stuff all the time.
Katie
What's up next?
Dick Toledo
Blow guns, blow darts and things like that. She's Don't. Oh, man, don't. That dude would kind of be easy to stop, though. Although it would be dead.
Katie
He's only so many deadly quiet.
Dick Toledo
You'd have to get like seven or eight people to fall down and look at what happened, what's going on. And then another guy drops like somebody's shooting blow darts at us. And by the time you realize what's going on, you got six or seven down. Which has always been my argument against gun control. I remember watching Piers Morgan talking about banning guns. You gotta bend the AR15. You ban all of the assault rifles and all of the rifles that make people think that they're just invincible gods. And I'm like, well, a 9 millimeter isn't in that, right? Well, the body count, that's. That's the problem. The body count with an AR15 is a lot higher. Okay, so if we have a mass shooting with a nine millimeter and there's only four dead people, we're going to celebrate. That will go. At least it wasn't an Air 15. He could have gotten nine. So it's.
John Holmberg
Yeah.
Dick Toledo
The point being is that you got the body count. You were essentially arguing that what a great idea to not give him a gun that'll kill like 10 people, only four or five. So would we celebrate that or would we just kind of. Matt. Big deal for like if somebody went in with two knights, what is that? And a 36 shots on that, Right?
John Holmberg
Depending on the gun.
Dick Toledo
Just basic.
John Holmberg
Yeah. No.
Katie
Yeah, but, you know, I mean.
Dick Toledo
But you're saying it's 19 and 19, isn't it?
John Holmberg
No.
Dick Toledo
What is it? 12?
John Holmberg
Depending on. Depending on the nine, it could be anywhere from 20 to, you know, 10. 10 in each.
Dick Toledo
But just you can do.
John Holmberg
Or you can get. You can get 50 round sticks. No extensions?
Dick Toledo
No extensions. Just a regular. I go to the thing and buy 10 each.
John Holmberg
20.
Dick Toledo
Okay, so you get 20, shoot them.
John Holmberg
In the kneecaps, just like Biden said.
Dick Toledo
Well, that was a robot.
John Holmberg
Oh, that's right.
Dick Toledo
You shoot them with kneecaps where their hearts are. So, yeah, so you get 20 shots off. If you're good, you got eight down. But at least it wasn't an assault. Or. That was my argument against the gun control. You have to ban all of them or none of them. That just. That adds up. Fire. Forget it.
Katie
I see what they're saying. That it's like, you know, if you have that out of the equation, then what? It's not a celebration. But anytime you can save lives. But what are you saving lives or whatever.
Dick Toledo
I mean you're assuming saved lives.
Katie
Yeah. You can do more damage.
Dick Toledo
You're assuming saved lives. That's it. And that's what. And so that's your celebration. We'll get rid of the really bad ones and we'll. We'll assume.
Katie
Yeah. If you're not going to get rid of the guns.
Dick Toledo
Yeah. When only a 9 millimeter kills 6 or 7. Well, it could have been worse. I mean that's. That was what our plan was.
Katie
It is what they're saying. Not could have. It is worse.
Dick Toledo
You don't know that there's been air 15 attacks are bad. If a guy with really good shot with the two 9 millimeters and he's coming out of the military and he's surprising people. He takes down 20 with. He goes 20 for 20s, hall of Fame. I just think anybody with bad intentions, no matter what the thing is, banning is ban everything fire.
Katie
Right? That's the only way you need you ban it all.
Dick Toledo
You can't ban fire.
John Holmberg
Knives too, of course.
Dick Toledo
I mean, you know, anything that could be used bad. You can't ban fire cars. You can stop manufacturing all those things. Fire is can't done. It's horrifying to me. It scares me to death because this dude got some gasoline and something that squirts gasoline in his hand, whether it's a, you know, a ketchup bottle or something that you can just squeeze and push and then put it up against and made. Made hell in a second. And would go through any metal detector's morning sickness medicate k you.
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Dick Toledo
I mean that's what scares I've said that to people and look I'm gonna go nuts here for a second so bear with me. At sporting events you're getting right in.
Katie
Talking about.
Dick Toledo
Yeah, you're getting right in with a pack of matches and a.
Katie
And a. Oh no, they good.
Dick Toledo
Please, you can get them in. You're getting in. I have. I have been.
Katie
It's funny you say that guys. I get right through was talking about he went to the Dodgers game and he had a pack of cigarettes and like you know this is a non smoking facility. Can't have it.
Dick Toledo
But he probably showed it came in.
Katie
And then they saw his lighter. Sorry, can't take the light if they see it, right?
Dick Toledo
If they don't there's no detecting it. I mean, I go through the metal detectors with my keys. Yeah.
Katie
They're not.
Dick Toledo
There's. I have. I have metal all through my body. I've never set one off.
Katie
You go in with 100 Ohio Blue Tips.
Dick Toledo
You go in there, the box of matches, and in your. In your pants, a ketchup bottle full of gasoline. And nothing's getting set off. And you walk right in. Does anybody ever pat you down going to a Diamondbacks game? Suns game. No. They want to get that line cooking.
John Holmberg
Now, you go through the metal detector, right?
Dick Toledo
And what. My matches are wood. And the thing I'm carrying is plastic. And gasoline ain't gonna set that off. Easy peasy. And then the next thing you know, you just spray down the whole row in front of you, like, what the hell's this guy doing?
Leo Gonzalez
One match.
Dick Toledo
Good morning this morning. How's it going? That's fire. Scares me to death.
Katie
You feel safe now?
Dick Toledo
Yeah. Enjoy your day, everybody. But when I saw that yesterday, and the dude's like, yeah, we'll just go with this. I mean, it is a horrible feeling to think, you know. And I. And I understand your argument. Gun people. Don't get mad at me. I understand your argument is saying you got to get rid of this net. But I'm just. I'm saying if you get rid of the thing that most offends you, the next one in line is the most dangerous thing. So you just took away the big one. Guess what? There's something there that's next. Acid with bad. Acid with bad intentions. It doesn't matter what crazy has in his hands.
John Holmberg
It's like you said. You can't put the toothpaste back in the tube. No. And that goes from everything to weapons to even AI Now.
Dick Toledo
Exactly.
John Holmberg
Which is going to get out of control.
Dick Toledo
You're right.
John Holmberg
So.
Dick Toledo
Well, it already has. You know that our president for the last four years was one.
John Holmberg
I understand that.
Dick Toledo
John. You're starting to sound a little like Dale Fire bad. Yeah, that's true. I do have a little Frankenstein in me. And this guy's. Yeah. I played a golf tournament a few weeks ago. The main winning gift was a flamethrower.
John Holmberg
Nice.
Katie
I gotta get in that tournament.
Dick Toledo
I still want one. I'm not gonna lie. I'm just. Because I'm a decent human being, I'm not gonna use it against others.
Katie
It's one of those things you end up getting. You do it once or twice.
Dick Toledo
Yeah.
Katie
I haven't had. I haven't pulled out for Three years we.
Dick Toledo
Well, I have no like real look. I got a lot of turf in my backyard thanks to turf monsters. It's awesome. But I mean, if I start flame throwing the weeds, I'm gonna have glop of plastic for yard. I don't think it's a good idea for me to flame throw it anything. And plus, I'm not wildly responsible. If I've got a flamethrower, I'm going to be doing my. What I'm supposed to do and then I'm going to see like, I wonder if that was like. I wonder if the mailbox goes up and I'd hit it.
John Holmberg
You're going to keep going.
Dick Toledo
You're going to. Yeah, you're going to. You're going to get comfortable with it.
Katie
It's not a good combo with the Arizona summer coming up.
Dick Toledo
I don't think it's a good.
John Holmberg
Yeah, I just got a flamethrower.
Dick Toledo
This guy deserts. No big deal. It's not going to light on fire. Yeah, it is. It's just weird. So, you know. Yeah. Do I have. Do I have a little paranoia about that? I think I do. All that stuff we do at react defense and all that training, I mean, that's one. It's bad stuff's just gonna happen. You just. You have to eventually just take that dude out. Like if it's just a group of people and somebody comes in with a flamethrower, you're gonna run at them. That's the only way through it, like, because otherwise he's just gonna keep coming and he was.
Katie
When it hits, is it the, you know, is it like flaming liquid that's hitting you?
Dick Toledo
It's. You saw it, it was gasoline. You could see it in the air.
John Holmberg
It's just a flame. It's not, it's not like the, the liquid isn't hitting you. It's just the flame.
Dick Toledo
When we. It's not liquid. It's already on fire.
John Holmberg
Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
Dick Toledo
When we were shooting it at that mannequin that hit the clothes. The clothes went up immediately.
John Holmberg
Yeah, it's just a flame.
Dick Toledo
Yeah. Intense. It's just. But you see in the air, the propellant.
John Holmberg
Oh, yeah.
Dick Toledo
I mean, you see what's there. It's not just fire. It's like the stuff and it drips the whole time. Because it's just shooting out that goo. Yeah, No, I mean, that's really like the only defense for that is to just turn and see the guy shooting and run at him and knock him down. That's it. And good luck getting enough people that want to do that job. Yikes. Anyway, but yeah, ban one thing, the next thing's gonna be just as bad. And again, cars. You can drive a car through a crowd and do more damage than a gun. I guarantee you that. I've said that every time that farmer's market gets it.
Katie
Hey, wire that one last week in the.
Dick Toledo
Oh yeah.
Katie
In the uk.
Dick Toledo
And I think that guy was just celebrating like, I think he just lost his mind being happy.
Katie
I think it was an old and then dude out of his mind.
Dick Toledo
Maybe I go up to that. That farmer's market. I don't go there anymore. But the Bethany and Central, it's just a sea of humanity and there's just. And it's in a parking lot. There's roads to it. If somebody wanted somebody, bad intentions, want to do some damage, there's 100 people in a minute. You don't need a gun. Awful. So and more importantly, anybody who's too excited about freeing Palestine, keep your eye on them. That's all I'm saying. I know you can have your views on politics one way or the other, but if there's a dude in your office, it's way too loud about the Palestinian thing. Keep your eye on that guy. They're a reactionary organization. And the people who are really like for them tend to be reactionary as well. I don't trust it. I like the people who might think, yeah, that's a pretty bad situation. Somebody should probably try to stop what's going on over there. I have no idea how it works. I'm just gonna watch more ID channel and sports.
Katie
Flamethrower thing will work. It'll fix it, right?
Dick Toledo
I'm not thinking. Yeah, well, he doesn't care. He just wanted to drop a few people that thought differently than him. Yeah, I just. Dude, it's. That's weird. That flame thing's awful. So people emailing me about. So you're telling me the Biden robot design team thought it would be a good idea to program their robot robot to grope and sniff girls heads. Well, yeah, they had to keep it real. There you go.
John Holmberg
I keep saying that.
Dick Toledo
They gotta do that, right? I mean, you have to like, what does he do? That's weird. That'll make people not question the robot. He does smell women's heads a lot. Yeah, program that in there. Smells like a cherry and mint chia.
John Holmberg
Falling upstairs, falling off bikes.
Dick Toledo
You gotta keep it. Program that stuff. Gotta. It wouldn't have Been great if he'd have gotten on the bike and the bike just crushed to the ground from the immense weight of Robot Joe. Ah, Spikes. Don't worry about me being fake. This is a. It's malfunctioning. It's no joke. Spikes. Made of paper. Yeah, that's exactly right.
John Holmberg
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Dick Toledo
I can get this thing fixed. How do you get one of them bikes can handle me like the beast. Yeah, I, I. And then one. Somebody suggested, I've got a flamethrower. You keep talking about all that cardboard you're trying to get rid of. See, I'd light a house on fire if I tried that. I don't know where to do it. Where do you take the cardboard that you want to get rid of? Light it on fire without causing a massive problem.
Katie
Remember when you did your Christmas tree?
Dick Toledo
Oh, my God. That was just a foot of it. I chopped my Christmas tree down and I put it in this outdoor fireplace. Nearly lit the neighbor's house on fire. I've never seen bigger flames come out of a chimney in my life. It was. I got scared immediately and just took a bucket of pool water and tried to put the tree out. And it was a. It was the top of the tree. It might have been a foot and a half. And it went into a outdoor chiminea, and it looked like a jet engine. The funnel that was coming out of the top of that chimney.
John Holmberg
Kurt Vestly tried that once, too. Yeah. In the house, though. Fireplace.
Dick Toledo
What? Yeah, he tried to burn the Christmas tree.
John Holmberg
It looked like the steel mills of Bethlehem steel. When that. When he was going. It was ridiculous.
Dick Toledo
Molten crazy.
John Holmberg
Oh, yeah. Just.
Dick Toledo
Did he try to do, I'm keeping my cool, dad, or did he lose it?
John Holmberg
He tried to keep his cool at first till my mom started screaming at.
Dick Toledo
Course she was right, you dumb son of a. All right. Jesus Christ.
John Holmberg
I didn't know.
Dick Toledo
Did he hack it up? Oh, yeah.
John Holmberg
He had his hacksaw there, and, yeah, he was going to town.
Dick Toledo
The worst part of mine was, it was like March.
John Holmberg
Oh.
Dick Toledo
Because I'd left my tree on the side of the house. I'm like, I missed the pickup.
John Holmberg
Oh, no, no. Ours was so hot. Still a little dry, but it's still a little wet, too. It wasn't bad.
Dick Toledo
Mine was right after Christmas Tinder. It was. Oh, And I chopped the top off. I'm like, this will go up and be done in a second.
John Holmberg
It went up.
Dick Toledo
Oh, did it ever. I've never seen. I've never seen. I've never heard something blow up before just from a match. That wasn't gasoline or anything. It was just sitting there. And I put the match.
Katie
Flash powder.
Dick Toledo
Yeah. Oh, and then flash paper. The 13 foot chimney. And there must have been five feet of flames coming out of it and just embers floating all over the place. And I'm looking and just going right towards the neighbor's house. And I'm like, there's nothing to do about this now. This is going to burn that guy's house down. It was over. You could see each one of those little pine needles floating through the air on fire. Bye. We're free. And I'm like, oh my God. The neighbor's house. And it was March, so it was pretty nice outside and dry. And it just. They were just cruising around the neighborhood. Oh, scared to death.
Katie
That's why you realize, man, those, you know, up in flag or some of.
Dick Toledo
Those fires, all those forest fires and stuff gets dry. It's immediate and it's explosive. Yeah. Mine was about a foot, maybe a foot and four inches of Christmas tree. And it was a good sized top of the tree, but plopped it up there and just smiling. Happy as can be. I'm the smartest guy in the world. Why didn't I think of this earlier? I'm gonna. And by. Imagine if I'd have started with the lower end of the tree or the big. The base.
Katie
Oh yeah.
Dick Toledo
I'd still be. I'd.
Katie
I'd still be 15 minutes of terror.
Dick Toledo
Still be on fire. Idiot. Fire horrifies me. That's the scariest thing because you can live. I think it's almost worse. You can go like 90% then walk out of there going, yeah, I guess they're gonna start all over. Ever burn yourself like a good burn?
John Holmberg
Oh, yeah.
Dick Toledo
Oh, imagine that all over your body.
John Holmberg
That blister motorcycle.
Dick Toledo
Yeah. Just cooks you and then it's days of agony. Yes. No thanks. Keep that to yourselves, nut bags. Also, I'm getting a lot of emails about the 60 Minutes last night that showed the interview with Dua Lee. And I saw it when it originally aired and a guy said that he got in trouble with his wife because it was even on mute. And he was like a foot from the TV just staring. And I'm like, it happens. Like she'll do that. Don't mess around with that. Dua Lipa especially start getting confused inside your house with the tv. It looks like she's there. We used to say that about radio all the time. People get a little too comfortable when they meet us because we're in their car every day. We don't realize that it we're sitting with them. We're part of their drive to work.
Katie
I know you.
Dick Toledo
They start getting to know you without knowing you. That Dua Lipa gets me sometimes. Where? I. I remember when that interview first aired, I started to answer questions back.
John Holmberg
That's not a new one.
Dick Toledo
No. Oh, Anderson Cooper did that. It was. And they just chatted with her and stuff. And it's dangerous putting her on a 75 inch screen. She looks like she's in your house. Then you get confused, you blur reality and the next thing you know, you're in somebody's bush. Someone that looks enough like her. Then I'm gonna put a bag on her head. I've been there. I know I've been in people's front yards that I think might have looked a little like Dua Lipa. And if they come outside, that's meant to be. I better keep this potato sack handy just in case this fake dua comes out. Yes, I did see that, but it was a long time ago. That's like his wife got mad. Cause just standing there, the TV's not even on. It's on mute. What are you doing? Huh? Oh, sorry, old ugly woman. I was looking at the TV like oh geez, did I say that out loud? Sorry, honey.
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Dick Toledo
Holmberg's morning sickness.
Katie
I thought that was Leslie Stahl. She's doing a great job.
Dick Toledo
Leslie Stahl dyed her hair black. That's Dua Lipa. And I know you know. All right. What's a Dua lipa? Is that an animal or something? Shut up, Dick. You should turn it. This show's stupid. Liberal. Liberal cucks. 60 Minutes. You're an all right.
John Holmberg
Whatever you say, Derek.
Dick Toledo
Were you gonna make out with the tv? Yeah, I actually was. You came in, ruined it.
John Holmberg
Making out wasn't what I was thinking about, but, you know.
Dick Toledo
Why are you putting your tip up on the television screen? It's gonna leave a mark. Oh, but I was just trying to get my waiter in the. This. Wow.
John Holmberg
I was adjusting the antenna just trying.
Dick Toledo
Oh, I hate you so much. I know. That's why I'm a foot from the screen. She doesn't yell at me. This one's good. I like the one on tv. She. She's got a mute button. This is great. Yes, I did see the Dua Lipa last night. Yeah. People have lost it. It was originally a thing people. I got. People think that I have my email. Like, I'm in this room all the time. I got email. It goes tonight, six o' clock, Channel 5, Dua Leap interview. Then Friday night, Channel 5, an evening with Dua Lipa. I'm like, all right, I'm not always available to this. I wasn't sitting there on the computer last night at 5:50. But I appreciate it. Yeah. And then you talked about AI Brett. Now that we know that Biden was an AI robot, another lady has been duped. I think this one in England, Owen Wilson got her for a couple hundred grand.
Katie
Yep.
Dick Toledo
And remember the one before where Brad Pitt hit that lady for £700,000 of. Not pounds, like, you know.
Katie
Yeah.
Dick Toledo
English money. And her kids are the. They went to the news because this lady is convinced that Owen Wilson, she met him on a website. What was it called? It's the silliest website.
John Holmberg
Was he on Tinder?
Dick Toledo
No, it was like, oh, what the heck was it called? Said artificial intelligence technology and AIs Prof. Has made it hard to determine what's real, what's not. Oh, where is it? One woman has taken to Reddit to explain that her mother has fallen for something. She went into the Reddit and said that. All these red flags. My mom just looked right past. She said, we've tried to explain it. She met him on something called Yahtzee with Friends. Oh, yeah, that's right, she's playing Yahtzee and Owen Wilson's on there. Now here's the thing about the dude who's pretending to be Owen Wilson. He should get all the credit here. I'm gonna go on Yahtzee with friends, find an old lady that buys it and start getting some cash off of her. And he built an AI video of Owen Wilson. Wow, great. I think Yahtzee's a fun game we should play tonight together. What do you say? Baba ganoush. And they're like, that's him, that's Owen. I'm gonna send money. And then started to hit her up for cash and she's like, I'm going to do it. They FaceTime, which is where old people are the targets for AI because this is an early stage. This is. Today is the worst day. AI is going to be moving forward. Tomorrow will then be the worst day. AI is going to move. It's going to get better every single day. But right now, old people, you know, cataract, one eye not really paying much attention. They're just happy to get the video to play or looking right at Owen Wilson. You got to remember, it wasn't that long ago they're the, they're the children of the people who ran scared from the radio telling them that there was an attack from aliens. This isn't. We're not too many generations removed from folks who get fooled fairly easily. But she says he hasn't asked her for money, but she has sent it it and he got her a job at Warner Brothers where she can make $5,000 a month but it's going to cost her a couple ten, ten dollar payments through cash app and then they're going to give her a thousand bucks right off the bat. So she sent over a few of these cash app small payments and then for the 5,000 she's got to pay them and, and send over like information about airline travel. And she's basically buying them all sorts of things and not realizing she's doing it her and she's like, he's an actual like she's almost going to sell her house because he promised her a job at Warner Brothers. So like the AI Owen Wilson's kind.
John Holmberg
Of an opposite them for picking, you know, Owen Wilson of all people. It's not like Jason Momoa or. Right. You know, I mean like some.
Dick Toledo
That's somebody.
John Holmberg
Right? That's what I was saying.
Dick Toledo
Smart. Yeah. Wow. Yahtzee. Yeah. I'll play with you, Gladys. Oh, this should be fun. Owen Wilson and I Having a nice evening. Wow. You're hired. I've just been hired. It's time to sell my house and move to Los Angeles with Owen Wilson. Mom, can I see the video? And evidently I didn't see it, but evidently the video is a little shaky. There's kind of see through sort of. Did you just look it up?
Katie
I just.
Dick Toledo
It's a little bit strange. Oh, the pictures.
Katie
Video.
Dick Toledo
Yeah, the picture's a little strange.
Katie
He's.
Dick Toledo
But it looks like, you know.
Katie
Yeah.
Dick Toledo
Wow. Hi. Like it won't like repeat names and it doesn't know for sure everything and it makes mistakes but another one. So if you've. This is that. It's that biannual thing we do to where you got to go visit your mom whether you wanted to or not and just go through a computer, make sure she's not talking to a celebrity and maybe just ask all your. Everybody today. Ask your parents of a certain age. I'll say anybody over 70. That's the law I learned yesterday is that everyone over 70 is a potential victim at all times according to the law. A person at risk. They say in the legal terms. You go up to them and just say, hey, how's everything going there? You meet anybody new that I might know? It's funny you should say that. I Playing Yahtzee with Owen Wilson on Thursday. Like, no, you're not. Mom, let me see your phone. No. Is that the video Brad, that. Let me see.
John Holmberg
It's only like 10 seconds.
Dick Toledo
But this is the one that. That the daughters went public with saying, watch out. Hello, sunshine. I'm making this video so you know I'm real and will never do anything to hurt you. I respect you for your patience and understanding since we crossed paths. You're an amazing woman. Old woman's going to eat that up and it doesn't.
John Holmberg
They need to.
Katie
And then whatever.
John Holmberg
Buy a little better AI that was. Doesn't look that great.
Dick Toledo
Good. But an old person. Yeah.
John Holmberg
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Dick Toledo
I mean it's like when we first started playing the very first grand theft auto on P.S.
John Holmberg
Right? Yeah.
Dick Toledo
And you're looking like, man, this is amazing. You look at it now. What the hell is going on here? They're all made of blocks. And we all thought that the original Madden was about as good as it could get. You know, every. Every different level of a video game. Now when we watch the.
John Holmberg
Oh and the hot releases once we don't throw. Yeah.
Dick Toledo
Everything about it's amazing.
Katie
What's the service. That's gonna be toast now. But the service where you get birthday greetings and you pay for it.
Dick Toledo
Oh, the Cameo. Cameo, yeah. You don't need that anymore. Just fake one Lovett stuff. I talked to Lovitz about it because he. And this is the best story I have about Cameo. The guy who started it is, like. I don't know. He's not a very. Like, in his 40s, probably. It's like. And he's good friends with John Lovitz. So I was in the car with Lovitz and the guy. The guy. FaceTime calls him all the time. He'll text and go, what are you doing? I'm just in the car with a friend of mine. As I go. And then he'll FaceTime him, and he's either nude or just standing there with a shirt off. Go, what's up, John? How are you doing? I'm like, oh, you gotta. He always says that when I say I'm on the plane. He sends me pictures of his dick. Like, oh, my God. I don't know if it's his or not, but it's a dick. Like, this dude stars started Cameo. So he's the one who's, like, messing with Lovitz all the time. But, yeah, he said he gets. He does that all the time. And people. You'd be surprised how many people want to hear from now. They. I. Not only can you fake one, you can send it to people who don't even expect it, and they'll send you money anyway. So, yeah, check in with your mom. Check in with dad. I'll tell you right now. My dad. 76. Something like that. 77. Holy cow. Is that right? Yeah, he's 77. He's gonna. He would, like, if Dua Lipa started chatting with him on the computer, he wouldn't know how it happened and just assume that it's real. Like, that's. He'd struggle. That would be a thing. My dad might say, I'm gonna send her my guns. I'm like, she asked me for all of my antiques. I'm like, that's not really her. Yeah, it is. I look, I'll send you the videos. I'm like, yeah, old people are at risk. The future is bad for old people. And we're the next group of old people. It's bad for Brady's and me.
Katie
It's already. I heard the. The number is ridiculous. It was like 360 billion. The amount of scamming that happens on the Instagram ads for old people, just on any product placement on there. The ads that are. You know.
Dick Toledo
But that could just be a scam product. They're actually get it it.
Katie
There's still about 60%. It was really high that our scams.
Dick Toledo
But they'll send you the product.
John Holmberg
You won't.
Dick Toledo
You don't get anything. No kidding. Because I've done a couple. I did a nose breathing thing and it's awesome.
John Holmberg
Generator.
Dick Toledo
The generator is not a scam. Oh, it's still coming. I just got an email the other day. It said it's gonna now I got a Keurig coffee maker and I also want some outdoor lighting.
John Holmberg
Just having it sent to the new house there to fill the rest.
Dick Toledo
You know what? That's not a bad idea. Brittany's take all my Keurig and yeah. Store the generator over at the rental property. You never know. I don't have a place for the tractor, so I might want to put it in there. That's a good idea. Brett's right. I'm gonna put all that over there. Listening Supreme Court won't review bands on assault style rifles. Okay, good. All right. Is that AI.
Katie
It was. I mean it just came up.
Dick Toledo
Oh, that just came up on your phone. Because we were just. Yeah, we're just talking about it.
John Holmberg
Luckily, I got my dad. He's to the point where if something seems like a scam, he. He hits me up. He's like, hey, what is this? I.
Dick Toledo
But. But if out of the blue in his emails or if he's. I don't know if he plays like Mahjong.
John Holmberg
No, no.
Dick Toledo
Or something. But if he played in some group activity thing or some guy he's talking to just fires over a dua Lipa thing and he starts chatting with this AI Dua Lipa.
John Holmberg
Yeah, no, I know. I. I hope not, but.
Dick Toledo
And the next thing you know, she's like, yeah, she didn't want to come out here, but she just doesn't want to use her own money. She'll pay me back.
John Holmberg
I don't think you do that.
Dick Toledo
I don't think my dad would. I don't know.
John Holmberg
He'd just be tell that broad to buy her own ticket.
Dick Toledo
My dad would probably try to impress her.
John Holmberg
N. Mine wouldn't send her some cash.
Katie
If they had. I think my mom might fall. But they'd have to say, I know so and so. Like it's easy. Yeah.
Dick Toledo
Who do you think your mom would fall for?
Katie
Like, I don't think a celebrity. I think by just.
Dick Toledo
Just a general guy.
Katie
I need help to get a flight over here.
Dick Toledo
Really?
Katie
I know Your son.
Dick Toledo
I know. Brady.
Katie
Yeah.
Dick Toledo
And he said to ask you.
Katie
Yeah, we're working on.
Dick Toledo
Wouldn't she call you first? She.
Katie
Most of the time, yes.
John Holmberg
But I think there was that scam going around a while back where people were making calls in the middle of the night to old people.
Dick Toledo
Oh, yeah. The phone was a dangerous thing. Can you imagine when the phone first got invented how old people were like the magic voices in here just asked me to send them money? So I did. I mean, photo radar was basically a design to screw old people. That's why it was always in Sun City the most like it was in Sun Lakes and retirement communities. You couldn't drive through there without one of those cameras. 10, 15ft because the letter scared them to death. If you don't pay US$179, you lose your license in 30 days. Like, no, nothing happened here. Now, we caught you. We caught you speeding. All right. And they were sending money out the door all day long. Old people do that. They're rule followers for the most part.
John Holmberg
Part.
Katie
It would be more online than anything, I think, rather than a phone call.
Dick Toledo
Oh, they're not going to get you on the phone anymore. They've wised up to the phone. The old people of today have had phones their whole lives. The old people from yesteryear got phones kind of thrown at them and it was like anybody could screw them. They'd fall for all sorts of stuff. Yeah, be careful. Just go through your folks stuff. Ask a couple questions today. Morning sickness medicate KUPD It's Dick Tolitto.
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Dick Toledo
Holmberg's morning sickness. Mom, dad, how we doing? You meet anybody De Niro? I have. Your father was playing Yahtzee online and he met Robert De Niro. No, he didn't. Yes. Here's the video. All right. I don't know. I like Yah Goy. I like that. I like it. Robert Johnson, you got to send me some money. I like how he says I like how he says your daddy's name so clearly. Bar, I don't gotta talk to you about Bob.
Katie
I think he's a pool player. He needed money for an eight ball.
Dick Toledo
You think that AI guy would ask for a direct eight ball hit? I'm telling you right now, Bob, I could use an eight ball but I don't have any cash directly. That would be nice once you fire it over to me. Robert just asked me for money and I'm giving it to him.
John Holmberg
He's.
Dick Toledo
I owe him for all the entertainment he's given me.
John Holmberg
Best part, best part is these old people don't know how to use cash app and Zelle and stuff they're using. Like, can I write check to cash?
Dick Toledo
I. I mean, Brett's not wrong. The tractor supply thing. I got so curious about winning that generator over and over. I gave it a try. I knew deep down I didn't win a tractor or a generator. But just in case. 13 bucks out of my pocket, I'll.
Katie
Give it a whirl.
Dick Toledo
Change all my passwords. We're good so far. And I got to give it to him. Super diligent about letting me know that it's in transit. Getting a lot of those. And I'm on some sort of weird list with, like, I'm getting a lot of wins from Bed, Bath and Beyond.
John Holmberg
And look at you.
Dick Toledo
Yeah.
John Holmberg
You're gonna have that whole house decorated for free.
Dick Toledo
Right? I know, but I took a shot if an email showed up and said, dua Lipa meet and greet. And all you gotta do is send us 12 bucks. Take her out to a subway. Bye.
John Holmberg
Bye.
Dick Toledo
12. I'm giving her 12. I'm gonna.
John Holmberg
Here's 24. I want to double chance.
Dick Toledo
I talk about these scams, but if I'm sitting there and there's like, there's a chance here. You with Margot Robbie. We all have something. Like, it's like, $12. What if. What if I. What if I find out this is. I'm gonna give it a try. And then I'd Google it. Is Dua Lipa offering up? And then they'd say it's a scam. Like, I don't believe these people. They're saying that because they want to win on their own. They don't want anyone else to enter. I'll show them. And I would do it. I would also do it to meet Dave Kingman. Like, there's a few weird ones. Like, there's a couple like, any. Like Jerome Bettis put out there. $12. I want to come to your house. I'm like, I'm gonna do that. Yeah. If Joe, if Troy Palomalu had a thing just popped up. Hey, all Steeler fans. $12 entry fee. And I already know it's illegal to charge people to enter contests, but still, I'm taking it. But that's what they want you to think.
Katie
He'll shampoo your head.
Dick Toledo
Yeah. Oh, Head and shoulders.
John Holmberg
Up with his own head and shoulders.
Dick Toledo
Troy Palomala will come to your house party. I'm like, be perfect stealer day. And then all my friends would be freaked out when palamalu rolls in and Washes our hair. This seems real. Kind of like just in case. And then at the end, you know, people are, don't fall for scams. Like that's what somebody's trying to win would do. That's the scam. The real scam is the guy firing off the follow up emails going, it's a scam. He just wants to be the only one who entered. And then he'd have Troy washing his hair. Oh, if I could get. I've. Look, I've already. Heinz Ward's a coach at as. And when I got to golf with Cam Scatterboo a couple of times, I didn't care about Cam. I liked him. He's a nice kid. Go get him. Enjoy being a giant. All I wanted him to do is get me. That's one freaking degree removed from one. And the next thing done. I kind of start. I didn't really ask. That's too aggressive. I wanted to let him know that I'm here for him first. Next thing I'm gonna be like, hey, is there any way Cam can give Heinz my number and maybe pop by for a Monday night game? There's. I'll pay him. Oh, I'd pay him. Are you kidding? I'd pay him. Heinz Ward comes rolling in and everybody at my Steeler party, save for Chris Catero would kick in a few bucks for this.
Katie
That's true.
Dick Toledo
Yeah, I prefer him on tv. I'm not gonna go ahead and pay for that. All right, then we'll make Chris stand.
John Holmberg
How much?
Dick Toledo
We'll put him in the. We'll put him in the garage while Hines is doing the meet and greet. Because if you didn't pay, you don't get to shake hands. 50 bucks a man. What? Can meet him at the, at the mall. I'll take my chance.
Katie
Eight by 11.
Dick Toledo
All right. It can happen. Hines Ward's one fetus is another. There's a few out there. There's a few good ones. Do what? I think I'd fall for a few, but just be careful. Owen Wilson starts talking to me on Yahtzee with friends. I'm like, go F yourself. Are you crazy gonna bother sending money to Owen Wilson? Call, you know, call one of your celebrity friends. Yeah, call that Vince Vaughn. He's got some cash for you. Anyway, go through your folks things today, just make sure got some. That 94 year old friend Paula who always talks about John was over to help out with a computer. Her other friend. And I'm sending emails. I'm like, oh, she's in the emails. Rich target right there. You got trouble. And she would talk to some Gina, Lola, Bridget or something and start handing money over to her. She's run into some hard times.
John Holmberg
Like, oh boy, somebody said there's a story about AI Keanu Reeves that stole 160k in Bitcoin.
Dick Toledo
That's crazy. Keanu doesn't want that. Who thinks? And you know what the. The thing is? It's playing on emotions that he likes you. He actually might love you, and you're his savior. Like, it's a weird complex. But I also have to admit deep down that there's a few people that I would do that for. If Jerome Betta said, I really want to come to your house, but I'm just short on funds, I wouldn't say. Actually, I wouldn't. Would like why. And then he'd be like, I've run into some problems. I'm like, that sounds reasonable. How much do you need real Jerome Bettis?
Katie
Not even the celebrity side. But how many people have given money to put the deposit down to hold the prince in Africa's money?
Dick Toledo
Well, that. That one I never got. Although it did piqued my interest right away. $10 million. What if it's real? Like I always. I was always a guy who said, what if it's real? So far, so good on that. Other than that generator. But Brady bought a generator for real and the same thing happened to him, so it can. It doesn't matter. It doesn't have to be a scam. Just be a.
Katie
And AI borrowed it.
Dick Toledo
Yeah. Somebody who's never met or known or anything else stole it for two years. That's crazy. Just be careful. Careful. You're probably not going to meet a celebrity and become best friends with a man. Yahtzee with friends. I just saying there's a chance Owen Wilson's on there. My guess is he's not going on there as Owen Wilson. He's trying to escape reality. So he's going to go on there as, like, you know.
Katie
Butterscotch stout.
Dick Toledo
That's the one.
John Holmberg
Brian Wilson.
Dick Toledo
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Dick Toledo
I just got a text from my buddy Winston. Says you're one degree removed from Heinz with me in two directions. How. How do you know Hines Ward win? What are you holding out for? I thought we were friends. I thought we were. Didn't I buy your barbecue last time at Eric's? I'm pretty sure you owe me one. Heinz Ward visit. Oh, man, my place would just. I'd bronze the whole house if Hines Ward showed up for a Steeler game. Oh, there isn't a porn on the planet that's better than that. Not even close. Oh. Instead, the only football celebrity I ever get inside the house is Dale. Some long snap on the wrong team. Yeah, that's a good point. Oh, that's right. He's friends with Max Starks, who's his frat brother. All right, well, you get on it, man. Winston, get on it.
John Holmberg
Barbecue for a year. Winston.
Dick Toledo
Oh, don't say that. What? What?
John Holmberg
You said it's worth it.
Dick Toledo
Never say that to a black man.
John Holmberg
You said, it's worth it.
Dick Toledo
I'll go broke. I still have a house.
John Holmberg
Oh, you have limitations.
Dick Toledo
I have to have a house for Heinz to visit. You tell Winston, barbecue for a year. I'll be like, I need to live in a tent for a little bit. And Heinz would be like, I'm gonna go visit this homeless guy, so. Oh, it's gonna backfire. A couple of days of barbecue. All right, a week's worth watching our bank accounts. A week's worth. What are you in? Come on. Have you not seen Friday?
John Holmberg
Winston's not that big of a dude. Come on.
Dick Toledo
He's a big.
John Holmberg
He's a big guy, but he's not like him know, like Dale or something.
Dick Toledo
Yeah, but it's different when you say free barbecue. Bring people. My Indian eye. Coming by with the boys. I'm like, damn it. I knew it. Stupid Brett. All right.
John Holmberg
On the list. Well, of course. You knew these were going to come. Mr. Raboto's on the list. I'm a organism from Austrian death machine. Intergalactic already?
Dick Toledo
Barbecue for a year. No. I'm like, no, no. Offer rescinded. Not worth it.
John Holmberg
Come on, it's Heinz.
Dick Toledo
No, no, not for a year. I'd rather stalk Heinz Ward and just kidnap him, bring him over for five minutes. It's insanity to think of that.
John Holmberg
Primus. My name is mud. Which he said. Run dmc. You talk too much for your neighbor. There goes a neighborhood for your neighbor.
Dick Toledo
First off, not my neighbor.
John Holmberg
But you own the house.
Dick Toledo
That's true, but I don't. We're not neighbors.
Katie
You're buddies now.
Dick Toledo
No, I'm just fixing something up. And he's nearby.
John Holmberg
Drowning Pool. Step up for the neighborhood neighbor. Avenge Sevenfold Social D. And you know these were coming with the flamethrowers. Ring of Fire. Jump in the Fire from Metallica. Fire Starter from Prodigy.
Dick Toledo
Do you know what I want to do? Little Roboto. Mr. Roboto, just in case Joe is really a robot. We could be the first ones to go backtrack and say we were on this. We were. Trump called it. And we didn't poo poo it all the way. I'm 99% sure it shouldn't be thrown out there without evidence that Joe Biden was executed in 2020 and is a robot and has been for five years. That's something Alex Jones would say. Currently the President of the United States. Put that on Truth Social. Oddly enough, it's on Truth Social. I feel like Rachel Maddow right now. I'm so. Like, do you guys realize what just happened? Like, that was on Truth Social. That he's peddling that? Funny or otherwise. You got to throw in Hashtag. Just kidding. He's a dude. Like, something to let me know that you're not off your rock. Because we all liked Alex Jones. That was a good idea having me on. Joe Biden is a robot. He was executed. And like, when he says it, you're like, oh, boy, here we go. Entertainment. Next thing you know, he owes somebody a billion dollars. All right, let's do it. Roboto. You got it. This is gonna blow your mind that this was like a number one hit song for a while. It hung around on top.
Katie
Was it number one?
Dick Toledo
Oh, it was a big beast. Domo arigato, Mr. Roboto for Joe Biden. Just in case. Sit back and just go. What was wrong with our parents? Drugs. Lots of them. 70s were evil. The 80s were. There was a three year rebound where things just weren't normal at all. I am the modern man. So, sticks, it's 98. It's not weird. It's pretty cool, actually.
Katie
No membership fee.
Dick Toledo
I have heard enough of this.
Holmberg's Morning Sickness - Arizona: Episode 06-02-25 Summary
Release Date: June 2, 2025
In this episode of Holmberg's Morning Sickness on Arizona's #1 Morning Radio Show, host John Holmberg engages in a dynamic and often heated discussion with co-hosts Dick Toledo and Katie. The conversation delves into pressing issues surrounding AI-driven scams, the limitations of gun control, and public safety concerns related to unconventional weapons like flamethrowers. Here's a comprehensive breakdown of the episode's key points, enriched with notable quotes and timestamps.
The episode opens with a robust debate on the effectiveness of banning weapons, specifically focusing on flamethrowers and traditional firearms. The hosts explore the idea that banning certain weapons may not significantly enhance public safety due to the adaptability of those with malicious intent.
Dick Toledo passionately argues against the efficacy of banning flamethrowers:
"Guns are technically banned to use on each other. We passed the law to say, hey, don't use these on each other. Like, you got it. And then we, you know, people still do. So no matter what kind of laws you pass, fire's one that you could never. There's nothing you can do about." [08:59]
He further emphasizes the inherent dangers of flamethrowers, illustrating potential scenarios where unconventional weapons could be misused:
"If bad dudes start going with fire, you're gonna wish that they built bigger guns for all of us because I don't know how to stop that otherwise." [09:02]
Conversely, Katie and John Holmberg provide counterpoints, discussing the challenges in regulating such unpredictable and destructive tools.
A significant portion of the episode addresses the rising threat of AI-powered scams, particularly those involving the impersonation of beloved celebrities to deceive and defraud individuals.
The hosts recount a real-life incident where a woman was duped into believing she was interacting with Owen Wilson through the Yahtzee with Friends app:
"One woman has taken to Reddit to explain that her mother has fallen for something. She went into Reddit and said that she met him on Yahtzee with Friends... the dude who's pretending to be Owen Wilson... he's built an AI video of Owen Wilson." [33:22]
Dick Toledo highlights the vulnerability of older generations to such scams, emphasizing the emotional manipulation employed by fraudsters:
"AI is going to get better every single day. But right now, old people... they're the children of the people who ran scared from the radio telling them that there was an attack from aliens. This isn't." [33:22]
He underscores the importance of vigilance and proactive measures to protect vulnerable populations from falling victim to these sophisticated deceptions.
A recurring theme in the episode is the speculative notion that the current President is an AI robot. This topic intertwines with discussions on conspiracy theories and the impact of misinformation.
Dick Toledo muses on the absurdity and potential dangers of such a scenario:
"That was my argument against the gun control. You have to ban all of them or none of them. That just adds up. Fire. Forget it." [13:21]
The conversation veers into the realm of Truth Social, where Dick points out the platform's role in spreading unverified claims:
"That's something Alex Jones would say. Currently the President of the United States. Put that on Truth Social." [56:59]
This segment reflects the hosts' skepticism towards unsubstantiated claims and the platforms that amplify them.
To add a personal touch, Dick Toledo shares his experiences and fears related to flamethrowers, emphasizing the unpredictable nature of fire-based weapons:
"It's a horrible feeling to think, you know. And I... I have a little paranoia about that." [19:15]
He recounts a vivid incident involving his attempt to dispose of a Christmas tree, which almost led to a neighborhood fire:
"I put the match... it's just sitting there. And I put the match. The 13-foot chimney. And there must have been five feet of flames coming out of it..." [26:27]
These stories serve to illustrate the real dangers that seemingly mundane actions involving fire can pose.
As the episode wraps up, the hosts reinforce the importance of community awareness and education to combat the threats posed by both traditional weapons and emerging technologies like AI scams.
Dick Toledo emphasizes:
"Just go through your folks' stuff. Ask a couple of questions today." [43:38]
This call to action encourages listeners to engage with their loved ones, ensuring they remain informed and cautious against potential dangers.
Notable Quotes:
Conclusion
This episode of Holmberg's Morning Sickness offers a thought-provoking exploration of contemporary issues ranging from gun control inefficacies to the rising menace of AI-induced scams. Through candid discussions and personal anecdotes, John Holmberg, Dick Toledo, and Katie provide listeners with insights into navigating a world where technology and traditional threats intersect in complex ways. The episode underscores the necessity for heightened awareness and proactive measures to safeguard oneself and the community against evolving dangers.