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Brett
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Byron
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Dick Toledo
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Brett
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Brady
You're an idiot.
Brett
I feel like I'm riding on a school bus when I'm with you. You're that dipstick that sat in front of me on the bus and listened to my conversation again. All right, Brett, Sure. So, anyway, I was reading about Winnie the Pooh, and Tigger was there. Shut up, Brett. It's not even with you. Just go sit somewhere else. Making me uncomfortable. And then Brett would be that dude that turns around. You guys want some drugs?
Frank
What?
Brett
Wait a minute now. Yeah. I don't know why he would be that. That kid.
Brady
It'll make you feel.
Brett
You want a cigarette? Not really. Then it turns back around. Well, that's like in an 80s movie. You guys want to see a dead body? Yes, I do. Anyway, MMP Guns is right there inside Mo Money Pond. Brad will tell you. He'd probably be there. 12th. 12th street in Indian School. They've got everything you've ever wanted. Get on in there, Brady. Are you ready?
Frank
Ready.
Brett
I like this one. I'm going to save it for last. Says dear Brady. Speaking of, I work with a guy who openly slurs with me. Homo, F word, Mexican slurs, Chinese, Japanese stuff. Every single thing he talks about includes a slur, including blacks. But he saves that N bomb that never comes out. I hate. Makes me very uncomfortable. And if I tell him about it, it'll make our business partnership really weird. We work super closely on projects. We're electricians. That work together a lot. I don't know what to do, but this dude is off the rails with his racist jokes and everything else. How do I handle this without getting punched in the face? He's not exactly someone that stays in line, oddly enough. Signed, Brett. Guy's name is Brett.
Frank
First of all, some of those jokes have to be funny.
Brett
Yeah. I mean, there's probably a few in there that do hit home. Like, that was a good one. But I'd rather you didn't do it all the time.
Frank
You know, sometimes you got to put up with someone that you. You can differ from how they handle themselves. You know, like, if they're truly a racist or, you know, bigot. There's a difference.
Brett
Sometimes you have to tolerate. Tolerate. Yeah. And I don't.
Frank
And for me, it's like, if that's. I. And I've been around people that like, oh, this guy does not like.
Brett
Right. It's not funny. They're doing it because they're just hateful. That comes across sometimes. There's a big difference. There's a huge difference between, like, laughing at a. A wacky word used in a very uncomfortable spot. And there's a. Like, his intention is hate. Yeah, there's. There's difference between Brett and the clan.
Frank
Yeah.
Brett
Brett doesn't use any. Slurp. I'll clear that up. He only laughs at stuff that sounds like it, which makes it the weirdest thing ever. Sure, he knows all of them. We all do. But Brett can make something that racist immediately. Hilariously uncomfortable and racist. And no words were bad. God forbid you talk about roofing with him. See, he knows if you say, I got a new roof, but I'm afraid to get up there because, like, I'm not even gonna say it. Yeah, I don't. See, he goes down the road of the word that could be bad's getting.
Frank
Anyway, the lights went out my attic, and it is spooky. Yeah.
Brett
Yeah, exactly. Watch this. Brad, if I have to, I have a linoleum floor, and I want to clean it. What product should I use? Spooky floor. See? Can't help it. He's a child. We can wind him up like, it's like one of those things with a pull in the back, and just when you pull it, he just laughs at something and says something uncomfortable. But he's not a racist. No bigot. Sure, that's me. I'm a bigot. I judgmental of everything, including mostly white. So, yeah, I think you're right, Brady. I think. But you don't want to tattle. And you don't want to be one of those guys. Yeah. Because it's going to get weirder. And he probably. If he's really. If he's bad at his job, if.
Frank
It'S interfering with the actual project, that's.
Brett
One thing Larry's doing stuff on. What's he doing? What? Oh, God. He's still on the Fresh Prince. So, yeah, just tolerate. Tolerate your racist. That's it. Now Brady's going, too. Fresh Prince is not Prince. It's Prince, you jackass. Fresh Prince, like thumb prints at a crime scene. That's what he sees first. Prince of Bella. Shut up, the both of you. You do it to make him laugh. Larry does it, too. Everybody comes in and says something that couldn't. I'm done with these two. Dear Brady, my sister has two boyfriends on the side that I know about. I'm very close with her husband, and I told her I can't be friendly with the husband anymore because I know too much, and she doesn't seem to care at all. I'm supposed to go to Vegas with him. His name is Tim. Don't tell us that this week. Should I go or avoid him like the plague from now on? Nicholas.
Frank
So that his sister is married to Tim.
Brett
Yeah.
Frank
And she's got two.
Brett
Two side actions. But as far as he knows. He knows about two. She could be doing more. Yeah.
Frank
It's got to get to the point where you. I'm saying something to my sister.
Brett
He did hear him say that. I told her I'm not going to do this anymore, and she doesn't care.
Frank
Well, no, I meant to go a little bit further. Okay, well, if you're not gonna do.
Brett
Anything about it, go further. You go further with that sister, you're gonna get her pregnant.
Frank
Oh, I. So I'm tired of hiding from. I'm gonna let him know what's going on in your relationship.
Brett
Oh, geez.
Frank
Threaten it.
Brett
She'll call your bluff.
Frank
Maybe. What do you mean? How else do you. Like. How do you expect me to hang around him knowing that I feel like.
Brett
He knows too much?
Frank
Evil thing.
Brett
See, I think this. I think that she's relying on you to be a cool bro, and you're not feeling it right now. It's like, it's too hard because you like this guy, and you're putting. And even if he doesn't care, if your side action is, like, going full tilt and you got tons of it, you're still, like, making him have play dates, you know, you're relying on. You've given a guy too much information. Like, ah, now I have to pretend, you know, I gotta play. Just stop going over to your sister's house. You're done with them.
Frank
Well, he's too late on this Vegas thing. You think if he's asking now and he's going this weekend.
Brett
Yeah, if they're driving, you can cancel Vegas. They're good at it. They don't mind.
Frank
There might be a shot of it. But if it's just you and he.
Brett
No, if the two of you are going by yourselves, you're making a terrible mistake just being a guy's buddy. If it's a bunch of dudes, just bail out of it. And then stop doing stuff with your sister and her husband till she straightens out.
Frank
Not real comfortable.
Brett
Yeah, just tell her I'm not, I'm not comfortable. Oh, tell him I don't like my sister anymore and I, you know, you're a great guy. I have that. My brother in law's a good dude, but he comes with that baggage and so it's not worth it for me to go hang out with him. I would, but it's like, no, now it's awkward and I know too much and I don't want to. We shrunk so much. Yeah, there's. Yeah, exactly. We gotta. We gotta avoid talking about certain things. You're gonna get drunk in Vegas and probably blab.
Frank
Yes.
Brett
Or take them to Vegas and tell them you, you do whatever you want here, I'll get you prostitute. I'll do whatever you want. I. I am not.
Frank
That was my only thing is, like.
Brett
I'm curious if they're like, push him.
Frank
If they're in Vegas, it's on. Then there's nothing.
Brett
Yeah, if that dude's going up there.
Frank
She'S doing this to me.
Brett
But again. Well, no, I mean, if he doesn't know.
Frank
But I'm saying if he plays it off like he's fine in Vegas, I can do whatever I want.
Brett
No, if I'm talking about the guy who wrote the letter saying, tim, go nuts. You want me to pay for a hooker, I will. My sister's a shrew. And tell him, just go, dude, don't worry about it. She's. She's doing worse than you. What? I'm just saying that's my sister's movie. I'm staying out of it. And walk away and let him go crazy in Vegas. And if he does stuff, don't tell. It's something, something. Check out homework's morning sickness podcast@98kupd.com all.
Brady
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Frank
But maybe it's been that way, too.
Brett
Who knows? None of your business. Stay out of it. But I wouldn't be hanging out with the two of them if you're uncomfortable with it.
Frank
If I'm doing it just because it's.
Brett
My sister's husband, that's stupid. Yeah, you can like him. You don't have to rat. And also, it's going to cause more problem. You're just in the middle of something. You're in a jackpot. Step away. I don't want to hang out. Yeah, just say, I'm done with you. And then if they ever get divorced, you can call them and tell them, look, here's why I couldn't hang out with you anymore. I was really uncomfortable. I knew too much. You guys do whatever you do, keep your own businesses, but don't drag me into it. This one you're gonna love. Dear Brady, I like this one because I'm not sure what I would do. Actually, I am pretty sure what I would do. Brady, my boss, is a person I greatly admire. He has mentored me and been fantastic while we've worked together. His boss came to me last week and said they want to make a move and put me in my boss's place. And I will tell you, if this goes through, I go from a very healthy salary to bonuses and salary that could exceed 500,000 a year. It's a massive promotion, but I would have to be part of a coup. What would Brady do? Franklin. Fake name. He pointed out that Franklin. But I would write Franklin.
Frank
Reason for the coup, first of all.
Brett
Well, that's. It's just.
Frank
And is it. Is it the proper couple?
Brett
If you greatly admire the boss and his boss sees a problem, wants to go with like a youth movement or a new guy, it's not yours to question.
Frank
And then, you know, I'd had to, there'd be some concern on saying since there's a friendship, there can figure out a way. Or like, will he be able to land on his feet? Most likely.
Dick Toledo
You got to put it in priority. Is he more a boss or is he more a friend?
Brett
If he's your boss, he's always. Yeah, if he's your boss, he's your boss. He'll be your friend until it's inconvenient. And then when he's a boss, he'll drill one through you.
Frank
But there's one thing that I think he can take it however he wants. But it's not like you undermining this thing to take his position.
Brett
Two schools of thought here on that. Yes. You'll get a look. It's business. Your boss will crush you. If it benefits him. Yep.
Dick Toledo
Or he's told to.
Brett
Or if he's told to by his boss, it will happen.
Frank
What would he do in that case?
Brett
It would happen. He would save his bacon. He'd take the money.
Frank
Yeah.
Brett
He'd be like, I'm sorry. He might even give you a little fair warning. You're about to get cooed.
Dick Toledo
He might have severance for you, but you're out if he decides you're out.
Brett
Yeah, but a boss, you have a friendly relationship. You don't have a friend until you're not working together, period. Because he has to eventually be your boss sometimes. And that's not what friends do.
Frank
I've had different people that I know that were like at one time I was his boss.
Brett
Right.
Frank
And now it's reversed around.
Brett
Here's the other thing in this, the guy that's trying to get you to coup, your boss will become your immediate boss. He coups people.
Dick Toledo
Right.
Brett
Take a look at the longevity. Yeah. See what he's. How often has he done this? And your $500,000 super salary with bonuses. Now you're under this guy's watch.
Frank
Does it allow him to control the. Oh, yeah, a lot more because you're his guy.
Brett
But if he's cooing one guy, he's not above doing it to you. So recognize what you're stepping into. Look into this. Is this guy just doing it because he didn't like one thing? Is it a ass guy's personality quirk? I don't like him. I want to put somebody else in a spot because then you don't have any job security.
Frank
If it's a one year deal, you'll be in real trouble.
Brett
I wouldn't do that. No. Don't take 500 grand for one year and then lose your job when you can have 300 grand every year for three years with job security, you'll end up making more in the end. It's dangerous. And $500,000 a year jobs are really hard to replace.
Dick Toledo
Right. You get used to that.
Brett
People don't realize that when you make a lot of money, getting fired is harder because you go find that somewhere else. Being fired stinks in the first place, but your boss is about to get smoked. Frank Caleando said this to me a long time. Well, said it to Jeff Dye in front of me when Jeff was talking about how he's friends with all these club owners. And Caliento, just as straight faced as could be, goes, club owners aren't your friends. And he goes, what? No, I'm friends with the club owners aren't your friends. They will rat f you in a heartbeat to save their club, to save something that went wrong. You will not be their friend. If it's about saving themselves, a friend will, will help you. Roll with you, roll with you and go, you know, look, so long as you didn't do anything. Like when I, the Brian Callan thing, I always go back to that. When I called him, I'm like, look, I don't know if these allegations towards you are real or what's going on, but if you tell me it didn't happen, I'm going to believe you until something says not to. I'm like, I'm not just gonna run on this. I got your back. If you want my little show to come on and express yourself because no one would touch him, said you got it. But if it comes out that you're lying to me, I'm gonna burn you. But so long as you're not. And he goes, I'm not lying about any of this. I'm like, all right, then you've got access to everything you've ever wanted. And he only took advantage of it once, but it was basically that. That's what a friend does. A boss is like not risking it and this hurts me if it's screwed. So takes a job. Would you take his job?
Frank
I look pretty good. Yeah, I probably, but. But the biggest thing is we mention it is I'm looking at the guy.
Brett
Above the new guy. How often is he doing?
Frank
Is that going to last? Is this, is there longevity?
Brett
Are there legitimate reasons to do this that you can look at and say, oh, this guy just on a whim, just cans people.
Frank
Can I potentially move up from there?
Brett
Right, yeah. What's the benefit later? Oh, slippery area. I'll Keep going.
Dick Toledo
Slippery conditions.
Brett
Icy. Icy. Making no sense. All right. Slippery slope. Ding, ding, ding, ding. Crazy. Good luck out there. That's a tough one. I'd do it, but then you start looking. Would Toledo coup me if Tripp went to Toledo and said, we gotta get rid of that jackass, I want you to take his job, would you do it? You should. You're an idiot. Well, but.
Dick Toledo
But like Brady said, in our case, we're 24 years in.
Brett
It's a group. Yeah.
Dick Toledo
Yeah, it's.
Brett
Well, I never forget Danny Davis telling me at the Zone when I was doing mornings there. He was the host of the koi thing. And he was not my boss, but he was a supervisor and got sit in the bosses meetings. Swings the door open in the middle of my show and goes, you're getting fired Friday.
Brady
What?
Brett
Yep. Just heard it, my guy. Thanks, Danny. Heads up. And that was on a Monday afternoon or Monday morning, Late Monday morning, you're getting fired. Effing Friday. Like. Oh, really? Yep. Gives me a thumbs up and limps out of the room. Thanks, Danny. He's the only one who actually was my friend in that everybody else was gonna let that go and blindside me. And I had a couple people in there I considered friends. They're not my friends. They were cya.
Dick Toledo
Fearful about their own jobs.
Brett
Of course they are. I understand that.
Dick Toledo
Protecting you.
Brett
Little heads up, that's all. Maybe give the boss a heads up if you like him. If you're like, hey, man, keep this between. But how's he. He's not gonna be your friend at that point. He's gonna go, no, you gotta be careful. Yeah. He's gonna go to the dude that's wanting to ice him and say, I. And if you're the only one that.
Frank
Knows that I'm not hiring you.
Brett
Yeah, yeah. Then you're a rat. Sit on it. Let him fire the guy. Maybe tell the big boss. Maybe tell the big boss, hey, I'm not going to get involved in any coup, but if it does happen, I'd be interested in that job.
Dick Toledo
That's a better way to go about it.
Brett
And don't. And don't go running around with rumors.
Dick Toledo
I'm happy that you put me in the mix, but.
Brett
Happy to be considered. But I currently work for that man. And you might change your mind. So I'll just say, if that position ever opens, yes, I'm interested, but that's where I'll leave it.
Dick Toledo
Let's not get Shakespearean.
Brett
I don't want to. Yeah. I don't want to turn this into Othello. It's 9:42. There you go. Oh, oh, you guys live lives, but it is always a quality reminder the club owners aren't your friends. They're friendly while the good stuff's going on. But God forbid anybody says, hey, I didn't like this whole deal over here and it starts to look like it might be embarrassing or they're going to turn on you in a second. That, my friends, is what Brady would do. And I think you did a nice job today. Brady saved lives. Except that Tim guy. He screws Arizona's most powerful rock radio station. He said fully erect.
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Holmberg's Morning Sickness - Arizona Episode: 06-23-25 - WWBD - He Works w/A Guy Who Throws Out Slurs All The Time - His Sister Is Banging Two Guys And He's Friends w/Her Husband - His Boss' Boss Offered Him His Boss' Job Should He Take It Release Date: June 23, 2025
Overview In this engaging episode of "Holmberg's Morning Sickness" (HMS) on Arizona's #1 Morning Radio Show, host John Holmberg, alongside co-hosts Brady Bogen, Bret Vesely, and Dick Toledo, tackles three pressing listener dilemmas. The discussions navigate through sensitive workplace dynamics, complicated family relationships, and ethical career decisions. The episode is punctuated with insightful commentary, humorous banter, and practical advice, making it a valuable listen for anyone facing similar challenges.
Listener Concern: Handling a Colleague Who Uses Slurs
Timestamp: [03:17]
John Holmberg (Brett): "Dear Brady. I work with a guy who openly slurs with me. Homo, F word, Mexican slurs, Chinese, Japanese stuff. Every single thing he talks about includes a slur, including blacks. But he saves that N bomb that never comes out. I hate. Makes me very uncomfortable. And if I tell him about it, it'll make our business partnership really weird. We work super closely on projects. We're electricians. That work together a lot. I don't know what to do, but this dude is off the rails with his racist jokes and everything else. How do I handle this without getting punched in the face? He's not exactly someone that stays in line, oddly enough. Signed, Brett."
Discussion Highlights:
Frank Toledo: Emphasizes the thin line between offensive jokes and outright bigotry, suggesting that not all offensive jokes are inherently funny or benign.
[05:07] "There's a big difference between, like, laughing at a wacky word used in a very uncomfortable spot. And there's a... his intention is hate."
Brett: Admits personal biases but underscores the importance of addressing uncomfortable behavior without escalating the situation.
[06:05] "Brett can make something that racist immediately. Hilariously uncomfortable and racist. And no words were bad."
Advice Given:
Listener Concern: Sister Involved with Two Guys While Close to Her Husband
Timestamp: [06:05]
John Holmberg (Brett): "Dear Brady, my sister has two boyfriends on the side that I know about. I'm very close with her husband, and I told her I can't be friendly with the husband anymore because I know too much, and she doesn't seem to care at all. I'm supposed to go to Vegas with him. His name is Tim. Don't tell us that this week. Should I go or avoid him like the plague from now on? Nicholas."
Discussion Highlights:
Frank Toledo: Suggests confronting the issue more directly with the sister.
[08:00] "It's got to get to the point where you. I'm saying something to my sister."
Brett: Recommends setting firm boundaries and distancing oneself to prevent further complications.
[09:08] "Just stop going over to your sister's house. You're done with them."
Advice Given:
Listener Concern: Offered a Promotion Involving a Coup Against Current Boss
Timestamp: [07:50]
John Holmberg (Brett): "Dear Brady, my boss, is a person I greatly admire. He has mentored me and been fantastic while we've worked together. His boss came to me last week and said they want to make a move and put me in my boss's place. And I will tell you, if this goes through, I go from a very healthy salary to bonuses and salary that could exceed $500,000 a year. It's a massive promotion, but I would have to be part of a coup. What would Brady do? Franklin."
Discussion Highlights:
Frank Toledo: Questions the legitimacy and ethical implications of participating in a coup.
[12:52] "Reason for the coup, first of all."
Brett: Advises evaluating the long-term consequences and the integrity of the individuals involved.
[14:00] "If his boss is pushing a coup, recognize what you're stepping into."
Advice Given:
Brett on Racist Jokes:
[05:07] "There's a big difference between, like, laughing at a wacky word used in a very uncomfortable spot. And there's a... his intention is hate."
Frank on Friendship vs. Professionalism:
[14:10] "You will not be their friend. If it's about saving themselves, a friend will help you."
Brett on Career Risks:
[15:29] "People don't realize that when you make a lot of money, getting fired is harder because you go find that somewhere else."
This episode of "Holmberg's Morning Sickness" adeptly addresses complex and sensitive issues faced by listeners. From handling offensive behavior in the workplace to navigating tangled family relationships and making ethical career choices, John Holmberg and his co-hosts provide thoughtful, practical advice. Their balanced approach—combining empathy, humor, and realism—offers valuable insights for anyone grappling with similar challenges.
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