07-15-25 - Home Run Derby Has John Thinking Steroids May Be Back After Cal Raleigh Wins - Jay Cutler Posts Pic Of His Sable Antelope Kill Sparking Online Backlash - Addicted To Ink Tank Top On Guy w/No Tattoos Confused John

Summary

Holmberg's Morning Sickness - Arizona Episode Summary: July 15, 2025

Holmberg's Morning Sickness on 98 KUPD delivers another engaging episode, hosted by John Holmberg alongside Brady Bogen, Bret Vesely, and Dick Toledo. This episode delves into the sensational performances at the Home Run Derby, the controversy surrounding Jay Cutler's hunting exploits, and the peculiar case of a man sporting an "Addicted to Ink" tank top without any tattoos. Below is a detailed summary capturing the key discussions, insights, and humorous exchanges from the show.

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1. Home Run Derby Sensations and Steroid Speculations

The episode kicks off with a spirited discussion about Cal Raleigh's impressive performance in the Home Run Derby. John Holmberg draws parallels between Raleigh's current form and the steroid-fueled golden era of the early to mid-1990s, questioning the resurgence of performance-enhancing substances in baseball.

• John Holmberg [02:15]: "Watched some of that Home Run Derby last night. I've got questions. Man, this is eerily reminiscent of the early '90s, mid-'90s of baseball. Where the juice is back."

Brett Vesely concurs, noting the altered conditions that might contribute to such performances, while Dick Toledo adds his skepticism about the consistency of steroid use among players.

• Brett Vesely [02:15]: "Hey man, 20."

• Dick Toledo [04:26]: "Remember we used to go catch him after his workouts? Who?"

The hosts debate whether Cal Raleigh's achievements are a result of enhanced training or illicit substance use, reflecting on past scandals like Sammy Sosa's corked bat and steroid admissions.

• John Holmberg [05:08]: "It's the killer fat. It's the stuff that stops you in your sleep."

The conversation evolves into a broader critique of baseball's ongoing struggle with corruption, highlighting the cyclical nature of gambling and drug-related issues within the sport.

• John Holmberg [07:09]: "This is baseball again. They found something. And while we get all excited, don't, don't, Mariner fan."

2. Jay Cutler's Sable Antelope Hunt Sparks Backlash

Transitioning from baseball, the hosts address Jay Cutler's recent social media post featuring his hunt of a sable antelope. The discussion revolves around the ethical implications of hunting rare animals and the ensuing online backlash.

• John Holmberg [14:00]: "Holmberg's morning sickness. I wish they'd do that with women's sports. Be honest about it. Like one of those giant broads in the WNBA and her nickname's the Big Dumper because her ass is huge."

• Brett Vesely [15:16]: "On a hunt that I supposed."

John critiques Jay Cutler's intent behind the post, suggesting it serves more as a trolling act rather than a genuine hunting accomplishment. The hosts explore the cultural sensitivity surrounding hunting trophies and the perception of such acts on social media platforms.

• John Holmberg [18:50]: "You put them up on Instagram or Facebook, that all changed everything. I just find it strange."

The segment highlights the disconnect between hunters' intentions and public perception, questioning whether the act of posing with a rare kill is inherently disrespectful or simply a matter of presentation.

3. The Curious Case of the "Addicted to Ink" Tank Top

In the final segment, the show delves into an amusing anecdote about a man wearing an "Addicted to Ink" tank top despite having no tattoos. The hosts dissect the irony and the social messages conveyed through such apparel.

• John Holmberg [34:09]: "The Big Dumper in Denver. 900 home runs this year. And I guess what I'm saying is if they can make it so the steroids make you faster and stronger, but you are also a fat tub of crap. No one's gonna look into it."

• Brett Vesely [35:22]: "Yeah. Would you. Are you black and you tattooed yourself white?"

John expresses bewilderment over the contradiction, pondering whether it's a marketing ploy or a statement against body art. Brady Bogen adds humor by comparing it to a mislabeling mishap akin to kindergarten wardrobe malfunctions.

• Brady Bogen [35:39]: "Great ink work."

The discussion evolves into a broader commentary on the authenticity of personal branding on social media, emphasizing the importance of congruence between one's appearance and their portrayed image.

4. Final Thoughts and Community Reflections

Towards the end of the episode, the hosts reflect on societal norms and the evolution of personal expression in the digital age. John Holmberg emphasizes the challenges of navigating public perception while maintaining individual authenticity.

• John Holmberg [28:08]: "But is it worth the hassle? Especially if you're some. It is now again. But then why have it?"

Brett Vesely and Dick Toledo contribute by sharing personal anecdotes and reinforcing the notion that social media often amplifies minor peculiarities into significant controversies.

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Conclusion

This episode of Holmberg's Morning Sickness masterfully intertwines sports commentary with social observations, delivering both critical insights and lighthearted banter. From scrutinizing potential steroid use in baseball to dissecting the complexities of hunting ethics and the nuances of personal branding, the hosts provide a comprehensive and entertaining overview that resonates with a wide audience.

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Notable Quotes:

• John Holmberg [02:15]: "This is eerily reminiscent of the early '90s, mid-'90s of baseball. Where the juice is back."

• John Holmberg [07:09]: "This is baseball again. They found something. And while we get all excited, don't, don't, Mariner fan."

• John Holmberg [34:09]: "If they can make it so the steroids make you faster and stronger, but you are also a fat tub of crap. No one's gonna look into it."

• John Holmberg [28:08]: "But is it worth the hassle? Especially if you're some. It is now again. But then why have it?"

Transcript

[Brett Vesely]

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[Brady]

Welcome to Tuesday.

[John Holmberg]

It's 5:45. My name's John. There's Brady, there's Brett, there's Big Dick Toledo. We're the morning sickness and we're ready to go for a glorious Tuesday. And we start, you know, not in the greatest way ever. One of our longtime listeners, the Magic Man, Swiftbert, texted me this morning and said hopefully you can start the show without me today. It says crack a box of cookies and give your pups an extra biscuit today. Tidbit, he took over his grandmother's dog after his grandmother passed away. Tidbit took her final nap yesterday, sunning. And outside in her favorite spot, 20 year old dog. Oh, man. So Swiftbert is one of our regular goofs out there. One of the ghouls that's been around the whole time. Start your, start your morning giving your pup or cat or whatever it is, maybe baby goat. We talked about that. Maybe you got yourself one of them baby goats. Give him a little extra love. This morning in honor of tidbit, a 20 year old ran the full race.

[Brett Vesely]

Hey man, 20.

[John Holmberg]

That's great. That's huge. That's getting it done. That is getting it done. So sorry to hear that, Swift Burton. Hopefully, you know you can smile when your dog makes it to 20. You're like, you Know what? I got extra tip of the cap there. I got some extra overtime with that one. Watched some of that Home Run Derby last night. I've got questions. Man, this is eerily reminiscent of the early 90s, mid-90s of baseball. Where the juice is back. Al Raleigh is just a fat guy like he. And he came out of nowhere like he's been okay. He's been a good place. 28. You know, to do what he's doing to have 38 home runs at the All Star break. And then. And I mean, Barry Vaughn's the only one who's ever had more, right? He had 39. I think at the All Star break, he was the only one. You're on pace. They hit like 74 home runs. He's just clobbering. Then you often win the Home Run Derby. He can't stop.

[Brady]

What a year.

[John Holmberg]

Well, and Baltimore's.

[Brett Vesely]

They move the fences back. It's not as much of a hitter's Seattle.

[John Holmberg]

Oh, that's right. That's right. Yeah. He's in Seattle. But. Yeah. Yeah. Here comes Seattle. Here we go. Dick Toledo, who's all proud of his George Jefferson strutting now. It is a great name.

[Dick Toledo]

Big Dumper is awesome.

[John Holmberg]

Big Dumper is the best name ever because his ass is huge. So calling him the Big Dumper is a lot. And I like that. But this strikes me as something new because you've watched Cal Raleigh, he's.

[Dick Toledo]

He broke out in the playoffs two.

[John Holmberg]

Years ago against Toronto. Good. And you can give him streaks, but this is ridiculous. And then just to be the guaranteed winner of the Home Run Derby and then go out and do was. It smacks a storybook, John. No, it's not. It's Max. Of Brady Anderson, Luis Gonzalez, these guys that couldn't. Luis Gonzalez couldn't hit 20 home runs when he played for the Cubs in Wrigley Field. Two years later, he hit. Yeah. In Detroit and he hit 58. Now I. I get it. It's warm here. The ball levels further. The elevation's higher. Yeah. 38 more. How come nobody. How come it's not a constant? You know, Geno Suarez might hit 40, but you're not seeing. You know.

[Brady]

And a new trainer working out harder.

[John Holmberg]

That's right. It's okay. You guys are convincing me I'm right.

[Dick Toledo]

Remember we used to go catch him after his workouts?

[John Holmberg]

Who? Luis? Oh, I didn't know. Yeah.

[Dick Toledo]

When he took the van out, when.

[John Holmberg]

He did his forearms at. The dude would know. No question. The guy worked out. But it was so does everyone else, except for the big Dumper who just goes out there. And Big Dumper's future is bad because his dad was okay, but his dad was throwing. And his dad is going to die soon from hypertension stroke.

[Dick Toledo]

Do you think he's going to pass out on the mound?

[John Holmberg]

That was. Yeah, but that is the most visceral fat I've ever seen on a human being in my life. He looked hard as stone. And that guy probably thinks he's got abs because he's got that under the muscle fat that makes you kind of hard. You're not a squishy fat.

[Brady]

It's a boiler.

[John Holmberg]

But it's the killer fat. It's the stuff that stops you in your sleep. And then his brother was catching. He's 15. He's bigger than him. The Raleighs eat. That family is not afraid of a plate with butter all over it. Boy, oh, boy.

[Dick Toledo]

One of the ads that runs in Seattle to promote the team is him, like, him eating.

[John Holmberg]

The big Dumper eats. Yeah, but it was. It's. It's a fun story. But let's not forget our past, shall we? Let's realize that when guys like Cal Rawley, huh, Who start becoming like household names, you're like, yeah, exactly. There's your problem right there. Is that dudes like Cal Raleigh show up and go, I'm gonna threaten all time home run record. Like, who are you again? That's never good. And that's what baseball, and trust me, baseball's history has always been. Let's cheat. That's absolutely why the National League began, or the American League began, is because it was so corrupt with gambling, then drugs, then gambling again, then drugs again, then scandalous drugs, then whatever we got going now. Gambling, gambling, drugs, Gambling, gambling, drugs. It's all time spitting on the ball, putting Vaseline. They're constantly trying corking and bats. This, this is a league of dudes who are trying to cheat their way to a bigger and more lucrative career. And it works until they get busted. I mean, Sammy Sosa had a cork in his bat and did steroids.

[Brady]

Is Cal Raleigh using that new type of bat?

[John Holmberg]

No. Torpedo bat. Is he using a torpedo? It's kind of faded from being a thing. It's just a vat.

[Dick Toledo]

But calorie Judge doesn't use it anymore. Giancarlo Stanton does.

[John Holmberg]

I don't think Judge ever used it. But the guys in the Yankees, he didn't need it. It got such a big deal because the Yankees hit like 10 in one game. But something's going on. It's not the bat. Something's going on in baseball again. They found something. What I'm saying is they found something. And while we get all excited. Don't, don't, Mariner fan.

[Dick Toledo]

Chisholm had a chance last night.

[John Holmberg]

Don't, Mariner fan. Don't do this to you. It's embarrassing. It's like Brady with Ohio State going, yeah, but they all knew he was g. So what? Brady, it doesn't mean you can rape all the gays. Raped. They hired a gay one. See, here he goes again. You can't defend your own team like that. It's a thing. But you have to know something's going on. We're all happy again. Baseball. Baseball's numbers fell and they're on the rise. They're on the rise again. And they're like, ooh, remember last time we had a little problem?

[Dick Toledo]

I prefer the Brady method.

[John Holmberg]

Just squash it down, act like it didn't happen. That's a Michigan problem.

[Brady]

Just enjoy the.

[John Holmberg]

Idiots and we will enjoy the game. And then we'll clutch our pearls. I can't believe these drug addict losers. When it gets revealed like we did when we were just loving every second of Sosa McGuire, Luis Gonzalez. You had all these dudes just mashing 40, 50 home runs. And everybody's like, this is awesome. And then they're like, oh, what a bunch of jerks. After they got. No, we ate that alive. We're doing it again a little bit.

[Brady]

But anyway, I don't think it ever went away.

[John Holmberg]

Of course not. They've always looked for, for new ways. The deer antler stuff. For a while there was once they had the word couldn't, you know, could not detect. Like, oh my God, give me more of that. But they're not like they were. Again, go back and look at 1990s baseball players. They all look like Todd McFarlane made them. They're just little action figures.

[Dick Toledo]

Yesterday, the 1979 All Star game. Oh my God, those players other than Dave Parker.

[John Holmberg]

Dave Parker was a big dude, but he wasn't like just some ripped machine. The 90s, every, the Phillies and the Giants and every player, little guys had huge veiny arms. And they were all doing it, all of them. And then there's Mark Grace string being just slapping doubles all over. I'm like, I'm not so sure. And then you talk to Mark Grace and he goes, I used to take uppers quite a bit. It's hard to do day, night, double headers and stuff. So there was, you know, Bowls of sunshine. The guy we talked to, Brendan for a long time, like, I want to get back in league, but they took away all my candy. That was right when they had cracked down on everything, was trying to get back. I'm like, what do you mean? And he goes, I could be in that league without any of that stuff.

[Brett Vesely]

It's the only way to run any ball players. Those big dudes just swinging tree trunks.

[John Holmberg]

Giant tree trunks standing up there. Just monsters. And what was Bugs doing? Using some sort of apparatus goo on the ball to make it slippery. Yeah, they're all the Bugs knew back.

[Brett Vesely]

In the day or Perry action going there.

[John Holmberg]

They drew that in 1960, probably. And they knew the dudes at the plate are up to something.

[Brett Vesely]

46.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah, 1946. Bugs was cheating with goo on the ball back then. Thank you, Brady, for diving deep into your mem there quoting. Anyway, it was fun to watch that. When o' Neill Cruz gets on a team that isn't the Pittsburgh Pirates, he's going to be a star. And it is fun. I don't know. Baseball's got some problems and maybe the answer is just steroids because we tend to love it more when it's juiced up. Guys named Big Dumper pushing the ball over the fence and then what do they try to do? They try to wreck that. The fans seem to love these home runs. Move the fences and take away their juice. Like, well, you're gonna see a downturn at the.

[Brady]

You're flaming out, bro.

[John Holmberg]

You don't send them to Denver. Give them more. Oh, my God, the Big dumper in Denver. 900 home runs this year. And I guess what I'm saying is if they can make it so the steroids make you faster and stronger, but you are also a fat tub of crap. No one's gonna look into it.

[Dick Toledo]

He's also got 10 stolen bases.

[John Holmberg]

John, nothing about this guy's body makes sense. And he better calm down because that dad of his is on his last thread. He was bright red. He's gonna pass away.

[Dick Toledo]

Only 16 away from mantle. Switch hitter record.

[John Holmberg]

His dad's. His dad is only like 58, by the way. And he looks horrible.

[Dick Toledo]

He's my age.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah, he looks just dreadful. It's not like you look great, but I know, I'm just saying you are an Adonis compared to Cal Raleigh's dad.

[Brett Vesely]

But anyway, what was Jazz doing up there with his big three home runs?

[John Holmberg]

Jazz Chisholm. I forgot.

[Dick Toledo]

He looking at Jazz and you didn't think he had a chance?

[John Holmberg]

No, dude. Smashing. Can't get up there and swing the bat. It's a home run derby. Maybe he's a. He's a batting three. I know. Well, hey look, Mike Piazza hit one when he was in it. So it's all about your nerves and who's throwing to you. What they could have done is made that real interesting. Put Shohei Ohtani up there. But that would have been a ratings champ judge and Ohtani, wasn't he in it last year? The Big Dumper. Yeah, I think. Well judgement the last year of the year before screwed up his sw. He usually does. So good luck with the big Dumper now for the second half because he's been practicing for this and he's not going to swing a normal bath. The Big Dumper Hear the words you say sometimes.

[Dick Toledo]

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[John Holmberg]

Holmberg's morning sickness. I wish they'd do that with women's sports. Be honest about it. Like one of those giant broads in the WNBA and her nickname's the Big Dumper because her ass is huge. You imagine the backlash if you ever tried that with women's sports.

[Dick Toledo]

Introduced by Pat McAfee with the greatest ass in mainstream coming in at center.

[John Holmberg]

Alicia the Big Dumper Smith. Why y' all call me that. Cause your ass is like an rv. Ah, quit. This is sexist. Oh, you guys are no fun.

[Brady]

You can get away with that. You'd have to put it down the keister.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah. The milkmaid. You know, if you had huge cans, you couldn't do it. You can't have fun with women's sports because they're too fragile and up. Big onion. Yeah. Yeah, you'd try. Well, it would be cute, but you'd have to have a fat. That fat ass. P H, A T. You can't do fun nicknames with them. You've done it with a ton of guys. And here comes the peach. No, it's cute. I don't want it to be cute either. Give them. Either give them what it is, like the big dumper. Or. Or they don't get one. Comes the outback. Yeah. Yeah. There you go. But you can'. Do it because they're too sensitive and they'll blame men for. Couldn't even have a press conference where a guy's like, I like you. I hope we can get to be very close. I really do. And then he gives her a heart sign to let him know he's been paying attention to her career. And the dude lost his job. Don't talk to her. Don't act like you like her.

[Brett Vesely]

Yuck.

[John Holmberg]

All right, what am I supposed to do here with this league again? Act like I don't like it. Yes. So just treat it like the rest of America does. Exactly. We're about to have another moment with Jay Cutler. Don't care. All right? He's in South Africa right now, and he shot something in a.

[Brett Vesely]

On a hunt that I supposed.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah. And I'm pretty sure he shot something from Mordor. I don't know what that is. Is the most big boy, unbelievable creature I've ever seen. He. It was a sable antelope. I have no idea what that is. Is that where sable fur comes from?

[Brady]

Yeah.

[John Holmberg]

So everybody loses. Is that right? I thought sable was rabbit. I was testing him. You just throw out a yes because you had no idea. Sure.

[Brady]

No. A sable.

[John Holmberg]

Oh, there goes those eyes. They went right up to the top again.

[Brett Vesely]

The ceiling tiles.

[Brady]

It could be different.

[John Holmberg]

Sable is actually a sable. It's a mink. Yeah. Not a giant antelope.

[Dick Toledo]

Mink like a ferret or a giant.

[John Holmberg]

Antelope in your world.

[Brady]

I think you're right.

[John Holmberg]

Correct. How do you do it to yourself?

[Dick Toledo]

He's stuck. He's glitching.

[John Holmberg]

I am. Yeah, you are glitching. Acting like you're thinking and you're not. It's just I can see the. The. The woodpecker going. Dipping into the water. There's nothing to think about other than. Whoa. That was. Shouldn't have said that. It's not a sa.

[Brady]

Yeah. Because sable fur.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah. Would be.

[Brady]

I'm just trying to.

[John Holmberg]

Well, don't start explaining it to me. I asked you a question.

[Brady]

I don't know which one it is. Whether it's the mink or a pine martin or whatever animal that. They just call it a sable. Because I don't think. I don't think there is safe.

[John Holmberg]

That's what I. Yeah. That's why I asked if it was a stable animal. If you're pretty quick to. Yes. Right now, your explanation and all your words, you've deleted yourself as an expert in this field.

[Brady]

I gotta look it up.

[John Holmberg]

God, I wish you'd have thought of that before you just said. Anyway, it's like the car. That's right. That's exactly it. It's a Mercury. That's right. And before. That was named after that, before Brady says it. Those are made here on Earth. Earth.

[Brady]

Fact.

[John Holmberg]

That's fact. As is the stuff in your thermometer. Not actually from the planet. Although had I asked to be like. Yeah. Anyway, Jay Cutler shot this Mordor beast. It's big and it's got horns, like, turned all the way around. And he's posing behind it, and of course, he puts it up on his page. If Jay had Instagram and. And, you know, he's got the pose. And of course, he's proud of it. He's pretty happy with it, totally legal, everything else. And then everybody attacks him. Real cool, man. Just killing something that's very rarely hunted and didn't know you were a threat. Blah, blah, blah. Then at the end, Jay turns on him and says, as is the case on this, don't look it up now, Freddie, you're not allowed. Put that brain down and listen to the show. Put your brain down and do it after laughter, for crying out loud. But anyway, he. He did the thing and he said all the meat from the kill is donated locally, and it kind of quiets people down. And what you don't realize is he's in South Africa. They're fine. So it's a double don't care from Jay Cutler, which makes me wonder if he only has social media to piss people off. That's the only way to go about. Like, I'm going to shoot this. People are going to get mad. I'll Hit him over the head with the meat, gets donated to Johannesburg, which is most like. It's just fine.

[Dick Toledo]

It's like, for him, I would doubly guess that that's what he.

[John Holmberg]

If he's up. You know, if you give it up to, like, Sudan or Ethiopia or somebody that needs all that food as long as donated to the locals. And I don't know if South Africa's probably got some problems, but it's. It's the. It's the one you'd travel to. If somebody said, you want to go to Africa, I'm like, unless it's Johannesburg. No, come on.

[Dick Toledo]

You don't think St. Mary's Food bank here would love some.

[John Holmberg]

Some stable animals. Envelope? Yeah. No, I don't. Pretty sure they'd be like, thanks, but no thanks. What the hell is this? Yeah, you make beautiful coats out of it. No, don't listen to him. It's. It's delightful. Meats from a giant beast. We don't care how we get it. It's meat for the hungry. So he. Right.

[Brady]

Does Flagstaff. You know, in that area, those banks get deer meat.

[John Holmberg]

I don't know.

[Brady]

Donated?

[John Holmberg]

I don't know.

[Brady]

I think probably.

[John Holmberg]

But it's not like. Not like, through. Because I don't think Flagstaff has, like, guaranteed hunts on preserves. I think if you're hunting in Flagstaff, you're hunting. They have, like, areas you can hunt in. But I don't think it's on ranches like they do in South Africa, where it's like, you're leaving with something like.

[Brady]

It'S a guarantee right out there in the field.

[John Holmberg]

They also guarantee it. My dad's wife runs these things. They're like, you. You sign up, you pay a fee. You're leaving. We're gonna get you to one. They'll drive. They. They'll drive you to one.

[Brady]

Is essentially, it's like, pick one out in the herd. There's.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah, they know, like, they know where they're at. They know which way, and they didn't. It's regulated. They have. You know, it's not like they're running short on these things. Even though I've never seen one before, and it is hard to see. One thing I don't understand about hunters and social media. You know you're going to catch it, and I know you don't care, but posing with a dead thing is always weird. It's very Al Qaeda, the trophy. I know, but it's. But you have to realize that it's not comfortable for a lot of people. People. And it's a dead thing.

[Brady]

Especially when it's caped.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah, it's just a dead thing. It's. No matter how it is, you posing with something dead is creepy immediately. Even if you're just a hunter. Like, you grab the head of a deer and pose, somebody's gonna be like. Because it's weird. My dad was a hunter. I understood that when I'd see the pictures, I'm like, why take a photo of that? I can see the bullet hole. Got him right in the chest. Oh, I know, but yuck, right? Isn't this kind of. Don't you feel a little bit yuck about this?

[Brady]

That was the machismo of the hunt.

[John Holmberg]

I suppose. But, you know, then those pictures that my dad would have would go into our drawer, and it was just for us. Now you put it on Instagram and so you're just running the risk of people hating you.

[Brady]

And they'll be out. Don't worry. Because most. A lot of my dads were. When he finally passed away, they recirculated.

[John Holmberg]

Oh, yeah. They'll pop up. For the family.

[Brady]

Yeah, for the family.

[John Holmberg]

But you put them up on Instagram of him posing with dead things when he passes away way. Did you pose with him?

[Brady]

I have a couple.

[John Holmberg]

His body.

[Brady]

No, no.

[John Holmberg]

That's what I'm saying. You don't pose with dead things. It's weird. It's just a weird. Remember BB Jones? She the porn star that had the stillborn baby and put it up as her screensaver? Or her. Her profile pic on her Facebook for a little bit of her holding that little blue thing? Yes. That's creepy. And it can be explained away the same. A hunter says it. It's a mother's love. She was distraught. This meant the world to her. It was a big deal. But she's still posing with a dead thing. I'm all for hunting. Don't get me wrong. I don't care.

[Brady]

One's a trophy.

[John Holmberg]

They're both trophies. One's an F trophy, and one's a hunting trophy. Neither of it worked out for the thing, but. Yeah, I just, you know, I'm all about hunting. Hunting. I think rubbing the dead thing in is trolling, and I think they know it.

[Brett Vesely]

Well, I think Cutler intentionally does that.

[John Holmberg]

He said he.

[Brett Vesely]

He loves that.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah. But no, watch this. Knowing what he was.

[Brett Vesely]

Hunters do do that. A lot of guys from Jimmy John's.

[John Holmberg]

And I think they troll. I think they're all trolls because I think they know and you.

[Brady]

But the problems to the fellow hunting.

[John Holmberg]

Community, you know, not on Instagram.

[Brady]

Well, one reason you're posing for it is showing that, that you're the guy that got this awesome. You know, like, because you still.

[John Holmberg]

You're posing with a dead.

[Brady]

Talk about, oh, I got a 8 point buck.

[John Holmberg]

If it's for your hunting buddies. Fired off on a text back in the day.

[Brady]

It was just a picture.

[John Holmberg]

Sure. And you would show it to your hunting friends. You wouldn't just go up and go, hey, waiter, look.

[Brady]

Yeah.

[John Holmberg]

You don't know. And you're, you know. And I'm not saying you can't do it. I'm just saying I'm a guy who's fine with hunting, got no beef with it. And if you send me your pictures of like, look what I got. It's amazing to me. But I also understand that seeing somebody's like, that's just, that's a little off putting, for no reason whatsoever to do to people who might not, you know, want to see that. And then it's just for public consumption. It's just kind of creepy. It's gross. Posing with dead things is gross. We can all admit at least the.

[Brady]

Fish are alive a lot of times, and some aren't.

[John Holmberg]

Fish people that show me a fish.

[Brady]

Yeah, sometimes they'll release.

[John Holmberg]

This is the type of brain power you're dealing with when you exhibit your fish kills. It's a, it's fine. Just, you know, there's going to be trouble. And I don't know if Jay Cutler has anything to lose. I don't know if he's doing a podcast or if he's got a job or anything like that. Like that. So that's the ultimate fu moment of being a troll, is like, hate me all you want. I don't care. Don't care. He's notorious for it. I just think the problem with it more so is it's an animal none of us have ever seen before. Like, no one's familiar with a sable antelope that's got these mordor horns. Like, if I told anybody, like, what's a stable antelope look like? They would be like, it's $4 door. I think it's a V6. You can get it to the GTO package. And like, I don't know, nobody knew what this thing looked like. So you see this and it looks, you know, my first thought is, oh, that's got to be endangered. I've never even seen one of these things. Pretty neat. Hear the words you say sometimes.

[Dick Toledo]

I mean, who talks like that.

[Brett Vesely]

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[John Holmberg]

Health.Com Holmberg's Morning Sickness. But posing with dead stuff's weird. And I know I'll get the emails from hunt hunters. And I'm not mad at you guys. I think hunting's great. I think it's necessary. I think there's probably not enough of it. But posing with dead stuff, you know, two things can be true at once. When you guys pose with something dead and then just give it out to the masses, it's a little weird and you're gonna catch some crap now. I just don't know that that's worth it. I don't have that in my body to go look at. Look what I did did and know that half of it, half the people that I'm telling it to are going to be pissed off. I, I, it's just not worth Definitely.

[Brady]

Changed a little bit. What hunting as far as the posing and stuff. Right.

[John Holmberg]

Well, outdoor magazines weren't being, you know, given to people who didn't like they.

[Brady]

Show, you know, the big game hunters and stuff. But the concerns now has changed. I mean, people don't like that.

[John Holmberg]

It hasn't changed. Outdoor magazines were never given to people who did a wouldn't want it. You, you, if you were an outdoor magazine, you would have that. They didn't have like a doctor's office with an outdoor magazine with dead things in it. Somebody would have gone, hey, can we get this up? My kids are here or something. It's just, that's nothing's ever changed about posing with dead things.

[Brett Vesely]

But it could go back to like, what we'd say too. You don't like it, change the station.

[John Holmberg]

Exactly.

[Brett Vesely]

You don't like it, don't look at my Facebook page. Don't look at my Instagram.

[John Holmberg]

Delete it. But is it worth the hassle to do that? Especially if you're some. It is now again. But then why have it?

[Brett Vesely]

Why not? It's your page, do what you want.

[John Holmberg]

I don't disagree with that, but I'm just saying, is it worth the hassle? He, he doesn't care.

[Brett Vesely]

No, absolutely not.

[John Holmberg]

But I mean if you're like, oh.

[Brady]

Come on now, that is a hassle by doing that because it's just not a socially acceptable right.

[John Holmberg]

There's a lot of stuff that isn't. People get upset about a lot of weird things. This is, this is basically me shouting out. I don't understand any of you with your social media why you think what you're doing is interesting. Why your comments about something, something that you know is gonna, you know, only appeal to a couple of your friends, but you've decided to try to get as many people that you don't know at all. That's the, that's the thing about social media I don't get. You're trying to appeal to people you just don't know. And trust me, that's a dangerous job. I do it every day when you're out there just spewing things. But you know, it's a radio show that's, you know, you're kind of designed to know the comfortable shoes, basic nature of it. And we're going to appeal to an audience that likes exhaust. The biggest fear of this radio station is a busload of nuns decide to go, what's on that channel? We're not for them. No. And they become a hassle. And you have to earn that over time by kind of slowly wading into the deep water. We've kind of earned that over 24 years of what we've done, recognizing it's not a malicious attack on anything, but we'll bang into the corners. Now if I just started to post me posing with dead things, a lot of the people who like us would be like, that's off putting. That's just weird.

[Brady]

Well, down to the behavioral side of it. The bottom line is why people do it, no matter what. It's like you want to be recognized or you want the adoration or you want, you know, you want the dopamine natural. Yeah.

[John Holmberg]

You want people to like you. It's for your confidence and your self worth and everything else you feel like when people like your stuff, it goes up, but you have to be a troll to see the other side. And all the thumbs downs and all the things they hate also has been scientifically proven to make people feel horrible.

[Brady]

Put them in a different world.

[John Holmberg]

So it's it's just to me, it's just none of it's worth it. I. I can't wait for the day that it, it all goes away and I don't see that it will. Oh, that's not even the one I'm.

[Brett Vesely]

Shaking my head about.

[John Holmberg]

That one's all right. But Brett's head shaking and looks. Is it a bad joke? Oh, yeah. I can't. Vasquez. Yeah, I can't.

[Brett Vesely]

I'll tell you off the end.

[John Holmberg]

All right. Said posting a good kill is like posting on Instagram. Is like posting on Instagram like posting when you go out with that 26 year old Scottsdale honey who's way out of your league and you got to post for your friends and everyone you don't like. I got show off that kill. But you don't do it while she's passed out in the bed with her legs out. You know what I mean? To guarantee it. Like maybe take a picture.

[Brady]

Same reaction of posting a big game.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah, you might get a few, right? You might get a few. If you get a big game kill in Scottsdale and you post her passed out in your bed. Yeah. You're gonna get some people upset with you now. You're also gonna have a bunch of dudes going, wow, great kill. Who's that? You'd be better off just taking a picture, hugging a hot girl and having people ask, what's this?

[Brady]

Just having fun.

[John Holmberg]

It's a little bit like that. Except for the girl is still alive. I assume you know any other hunter, you know, Ted Bundy and stuff like that, that took pictures with his kills was considered a little off. I just find pictures with dead things weird. That's me not saying you can't do it. I'm just saying it's weird. Said what's more off putting a hunter with his kill or a fat lady wearing a bikini? Oh, oh, trust me, it's not the only weird thing.

[Brett Vesely]

I'll send Cutler's pictures any day over Lizzo in a bikini.

[John Holmberg]

I'd rather lick from cut A to cut B on that sable antelope than any time big girls get into bikinis and act confident. Yeah, people who don't look good in a bikini on the Internet going, you can't make fun of me. It's like can too and will, but just not on your page or do it elsewhere and then you'll see it scrolling along on Instagram. I love the one that people keep sending me, this one of this girl who's got a moon head and she's like, oh, my God. I was out the other day, and all these guys kept telling me I was pretty. And then the word lie just goes over the screen. And two guys came up to me and my mom, and they were like, I think you're just so beautiful. Lie. Every time she says something about herself that's positive, it just gets hit with lie. And I'm like, that's what we do to those. Those girls who have false confidence. I'm not saying. Yeah, I'm not saying hunting is the only thing, and I'm not saying it's that bad. I'm just saying, is it worth it? But Jay Cutler, he got nothing to lose.

[Brett Vesely]

He don't care.

[John Holmberg]

He don't care. And he's made that clear for years. But, you know, it is weird to pose with that thing. Both things can be true. And the Instagrams and the Facebooks, that all changed everything. I just find it strange. My dad had that weird Spanish ibex he killed, and it looked like it was from Mordor, too. And he sent me a picture, and I'm like, what was the one guy that acted like he was riding it? He got on top of it. There was a famous picture of that, and he was sitting on the back of it.

[Brady]

Was it a big horn she?

[John Holmberg]

The dead thing? I don't know.

[Brett Vesely]

Is that the Jimmy John's guy? I'm not sure.

[John Holmberg]

Maybe it was, but he just. He was. He had the antlers, and he was acting like it was a motorcycle. And I'm like, all right, that. That is officially really weird. You have to kind of respect. That's the thing about hunting. To me, you respect the beast. You know, you go out and you go, this is. This deserves respect.

[Brady]

Yeah, you could do that with that sable.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah, you could definitely act like you got the. The ape hanger on things. But for the most part, you don't ride it after you kill it. You don't rub its face. And the fact that it lost this battle, I don't know, this seems. This seems disrespectful to the entire process to me. Good luck, Jay. But he. Boy, those people got mad. And then he goes. All the meat goes to a local group here. So we're feeding Africans. And people don't know what to think about that because they immediately think of, like, Lionel Richie and Bob Geldof and, like, oh, they're feeding Africans. That's always been something I've been for. Damn it.

[Brett Vesely]

They're still hungry.

[John Holmberg]

And you never see that. You're Never, like, upset at all when, like, a tribe of skinny Africa Africans is standing there celebrating the kill of the sable antelope. Because we're. Deep down. That's racism. A white dude stands next to the sable antelope, and you're like, you bastard. And four tiny little pygmies do it. And you're like, oh, good, they're gonna eat. Cause you just assume most people there are starving. Cause that's what we've been told since we were little by the lady from all in the family.

[Brady]

Whitey did the number with the buffalo here in America.

[John Holmberg]

Exactly. I think we got a history with it. Yeah. We would pose. Leave it behind. Big deal. At least Jay's doing it the right way over there, which is fun. I also saw something weird that I. It's just. It boggled my brain. There's a guy in a tank top and shorts yesterday. I went back to the casino yesterday, Brett. Oh, man. Just a blip.

[Brett Vesely]

Did you get that Mac and cheese?

[Brady]

Yeah.

[John Holmberg]

You know what? I should have called you. I should have gotten some Mac and cheese. I didn't. Yeah, I want. I want some more. You know, I'm going to do here. If I. If I go back again with. Because I just kept the tickets this time. I had a nice. I had a nice little run. If I. If I go back and I win more, I'm going to give $10,000 to my favorite charity. I promise you that. That's what I. I'm going to cut a check for 10 grand to something I want to cut.

[Brett Vesely]

What a guy.

[John Holmberg]

I'm going to cut a check to a charity. I want to do it. What a guy. Not. Not that someone's going to force me to do. I'm going to do it for my own benefit.

[Brady]

You post it. Big check.

[John Holmberg]

No. You know what? I'll keep it private. It'll be nice. All right. It'll be a thing. But I'll give it. I'll give it to, like, lost her home, but I got to have another big win. I'm not there yet. It's. I'm teetering on the. Really, like, you know what? We've got a bunch of extra here, so I promise you that either way, Guy in a tank top, shorts, and his shirt said, addicted to ink. Not a tattoo on his body. Like, nothing but a lily white canvas of skin everywhere. And I had to say, squid ink. That's what I was wondering. Like, ballpoint. What are you. What. What ink are you addicted to? Because I work at the shop. There's A it called Addicted to Ink. And no, it had a different name. And I'm like, do you not like tattoos? And he just started laughing because everybody asked me that. I'm like, yeah, cuz your shirt says otherwise. Yeah, yeah. It's like me having a bottle of vodka going, AA rules. You know, it's, it's, it's ironic to have that addicted to ink and not one tattoo. And it's a tank top, so it's designed to show off all your ink.

[Brett Vesely]

Maybe he's got a flip barley tat somewhere.

[John Holmberg]

That's what I'm saying around everything. It's just so weird that I'm like, you just like the idea my entire.

[Brady]

Body doesn't look like ink, does it?

[John Holmberg]

Yeah. Would you. Are you black and you tattooed yourself white? Then you're. And I'm impressed. I used to be a Mexican. How did you. Ah, I see what you've done here.

[Brady]

Great ink work.

[John Holmberg]

It's excellent ink. I would have never guessed. I thought, no, the whole thing's ink. My whole head to tape toe ink. But addicted to ink. Not one tattoo. Not one. And it's almost like when you're in kindergarten and the kid that pees his pants get clothes that aren't his. Like, this guy must have wet himself or took a dump in his drawers. And then they gave him like, here, we got this tank top and a pair of shorts. Wander around in this. He's not addicted to ink. He has zero addiction. He has. He's averse to ink. I think he's. It's the opposite.

[Brady]

That guy sends more people into us than anything.

[John Holmberg]

People are always asking, hey, am I addicted to ink? I. I'd like to be tested. I don't. I'm just like one of your employees. You might just be addicted to ink. Now get out of here before we put some on you. And maybe that was it. Maybe it was more like a. Like an empty pan situation.

[Brady]

Empty canvas.

[John Holmberg]

Like he's got one of those alert bracelets that tells you what he's got to be careful of. He's like, I'm addicted to ink. So you get any on me, I'm going to lose my mind. So you keep ink away from him because he's. That's the strangest thing. Then I pulled 7k out of the machine and I stopped paying attention. You. Yeah. It was a nice day. It was a really nice day. And it was just a. On a whim, I decided, you know what? This home run derby, I hope you.

[Brett Vesely]

Win more, cuz I want to see you be, you know, charitable, too.

[John Holmberg]

I like being charitable. I'm a philanthropic fell. I'll do it on my own. Good luck, buddy. I'll do that on my own. Thanks, brother. Appreciate it. Let's get a wake up song, shall we? 585-9800. A good one and we'll scream it together. It's 98. KUPD. Wake up. It's out of 88. Can you PD?