07-17-25 - Thursdays w/Former Dallas Cowboy OLineman Dale Hellestrae - As A Former Player What Does Dale Think About The ESPYs - Discussing The Suns Trade Of Bradley Beal

Summary

Holmberg's Morning Sickness - Arizona Episode Release Date: July 17, 2025
Guest: Former Dallas Cowboy Offensive Lineman Dale Hellestrae
Topics Covered: Dale’s perspective on the ESPYs, Phoenix Suns' trade of Bradley Beal, humorous anecdotes, and general banter among hosts.

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Introduction

In this lively episode of Holmberg's Morning Sickness on Arizona's #1 Morning Radio Show, host John Holmberg welcomes former Dallas Cowboys offensive lineman Dale Hellestrae. The conversation delves into a mix of sports discussions, humorous stories, and light-hearted banter among the hosts Doug Hopkins and Dale Hellestrae.

ESPYs and Smashing Pumpkins

[00:52] John Holmberg kicks off the conversation by celebrating the Smashing Pumpkins winning two ESPY awards the previous night, highlighting the intersection of sports and entertainment.

Notable Quote:

• John Holmberg [00:52]: "The amazing award-winning Smashing Pumpkins picked up two ESPYs last night. Amazing."

Guest Introduction and Sports Insights

John introduces Dale Hellestrae, emphasizing his successful 17-year career with the Dallas Cowboys, boasting three championships—a notably high success rate in professional sports.

Notable Quote:

• John Holmberg [01:05]: "Three-time world champion with the Dallas Cowboys and zero with anyone else after a 17-year career."

Anecdotes and Humorous Banter

The hosts share humorous anecdotes, including a story about a friend using his grandkids as "sex bait" at a play area. This segment showcases the show's characteristic blend of humor and candid conversation.

Notable Quotes:

• Doug Hopkins [08:16]: "How old are they now? That the guy that I know said, now I have a quandary. Do I tell her that they're my grandkids or that they're my kids?"
• John Holmberg [15:00]: "You can't walk in by yourself... And you're a creep."

Phoenix Children's Hospital Charity

John Holmberg discusses efforts to support the Phoenix Children's Hospital by collaborating with Prestige Billiards to build an engaging game room for the children. This segment highlights the hosts' commitment to community and charitable activities.

Notable Quote:

• John Holmberg [02:35]: "Help Meathead make the summer great by going in there and saying, I want this, I want that, I want this. I'm going to try to get Meathead involved in Fitz's charity for the Phoenix Children's Hospital."

Dining Experience and Health Humorous Segment

The hosts recount a recent dinner experience where excessive butter in a meal led to humorous discussions about digestive issues. This light-hearted segment adds a personal touch to the episode, illustrating the hosts' camaraderie.

Notable Quotes:

• John Holmberg [18:04]: "I know what's gonna happen in about 20 minutes. I have to get this out and it's not gonna be good."
• Doug Hopkins [20:24]: "Captain rust butt over here loves that."

Sports Talk: Phoenix Suns and Bradley Beal Trade

As the episode progresses, the conversation shifts to sports, focusing on the Phoenix Suns' trade of Bradley Beal. John Holmberg criticizes the Suns' management decisions, comparing the Clippers to the Browns of the NBA for their knack for making poor trades.

Notable Quotes:

• John Holmberg [23:22]: "Sex Bait Grandkids might be the best band name of all time."
• John Holmberg [24:12]: "The Clippers are the Browns of the NBA. If there's a bad deal to be made, they're gonna do it."

Discussion on ESPYs and Awards Show Dynamics

The hosts express skepticism about the significance of the ESPYs, suggesting that the awards show is more about entertainment than genuine sports achievements. They critique the commercialization and perceived lack of authenticity in the awards.

Notable Quotes:

• Doug Hopkins [25:09]: "After we scoured the ESPYs last night."
• John Holmberg [32:06]: "They shoehorn this weird thing into our lives and they act like it's important."

Conclusion and Final Thoughts

Wrapping up the episode, the hosts reflect on the day's discussions, reiterating their opinions on the Phoenix Suns' management and the ESPYs. The episode concludes with a mix of humor and critical sports analysis, staying true to the show's entertaining and provocative style.

Notable Quote:

• John Holmberg [34:32]: "You think it's okay to lie and use your grandkids as sex bait? That's what Dale's buddy was asked."

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Key Takeaways

• Humorous Storytelling: The episode blends sports talk with humorous and sometimes controversial anecdotes, keeping the audience engaged.
• Sports Criticism: John Holmberg provides critical insights into the Phoenix Suns' management decisions, highlighting concerns over player trades and team strategy.
• Community Involvement: The show emphasizes the importance of community support through charitable efforts for the Phoenix Children's Hospital.
• Host Chemistry: The dynamic interplay among John Holmberg, Doug Hopkins, and Dale Hellestrae showcases a strong on-air chemistry, contributing to the show's entertaining atmosphere.

Notable Moments

• Grandkids as Sex Bait Story: A standout segment where the hosts humorously discuss the ethics and implications of using grandkids to attract romantic interests.
• Critique of ESPYs: A critical perspective on the legitimacy and significance of the ESPY awards within the sports community.
• Phoenix Suns Analysis: In-depth discussion on the strategic missteps of the Phoenix Suns, particularly focusing on the Bradley Beal trade and its impact on the team's performance.

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Holmberg's Morning Sickness continues to deliver a blend of entertainment, humor, and insightful sports commentary, making it a favorite among Arizona's morning radio listeners.

Transcript

[John Holberg]

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[Doug Hopkins]

What is that?

[John Holberg]

Quiet down.

[Doug Hopkins]

End it.

[John Holberg]

Shut up. You be quiet. The amazing award winning Smashing Pumpkins picked up two ESPYs last night. Amazing.

[Dale Hellestray]

Best sports song ever.

[John Holberg]

Yeah, that's right. It is time now for our our sports guru, Dale Hellestray. Three time world champion with the Dallas Cowboys and zero with anyone else after a 16 year career.

[Doug Hopkins]

17.

[John Holberg]

17. Even better. That puts you at about a 17 success rate through your career and that's higher than most. Nice job.

[Dale Hellestray]

They added on the last year as a bonus because he made it 16.

[Doug Hopkins]

My pension. Johnny.

[John Holberg]

Yeah, that's pretty good. Actually. It probably on 22%. That's pretty good. That's actually very good.

[Doug Hopkins]

Oh, I bet you 17 years have put me in the top 5 to.

[John Holberg]

6% with three championships in 17 years. I'm not talking about your time.

[Doug Hopkins]

I'm just saying longevity.

[John Holberg]

Anybody can milk 17.

[Doug Hopkins]

Nobody can.

[John Holberg]

Anybody?

[Doug Hopkins]

Nobody.

[John Holberg]

Anybody decent can throw a ball. Roethlisberger couldn't milk well, he was an actual. Like he had a position.

[Doug Hopkins]

Oh, really?

[John Holberg]

He had an important position. Okay, let's not get back to standing there throwing the ball. I mean, the holder was as important as you because he had a second job.

[Doug Hopkins]

I didn't even need a holder. I was so good.

[John Holberg]

You just snapped and the guy kicked.

[Doug Hopkins]

It through the upper.

[John Holberg]

Yeah, he could splace it. It would set up. Oh, I would like to see that held for me. Oh my gosh. Soft hands. Perfect. I'd have been a good holder. Dale. Series brought you by our friends at prestige billiards. AZ.com get on out there and get that game room going. Help Meathead make the summer great by going in there and saying, I want this, I want that, I want this. I'm going to Try to get Meathead involved in Fitz's charity for the Phoenix Children's Hospital. You should get involved in that.

[Doug Hopkins]

Well, you got to tell me about it.

[John Holberg]

You like I am right now.

[Doug Hopkins]

What's wrong with you? Fitz?

[John Holberg]

Fitz is our afternoon guy. Who?

[Doug Hopkins]

Is there anything else on here besides you?

[John Holberg]

No, I mean, technically. Technically, I mean, Fitz, he shows up and, like, he dusts and keeps the thing operational until five tomorrow.

[Doug Hopkins]

Nonsense.

[John Holberg]

Oh, he plays a lot. Yeah, he's good at it, too. Fitz is doing nice. You take it back. He's doing nice things for the Phoenix Children's Hospital. Trying to build, like, an office, awesome game room for them. So when the kids are done with treatment or they're going through their stuff, they have a place to go.

[Doug Hopkins]

That's awesome.

[John Holberg]

And I'm trying to get. I haven't talked to Meathead about it. I'm doing it now. I'm putting a lot of pressure on them now. Get Meathead from Prestige Billiards to help us out and, you know, put that game room together. So these kids have, like, you know, air hockey or. It would be awesome, right?

[Dale Hellestray]

One of our buddies has a professional.

[John Holberg]

Yeah. Bryce emailed and said, I got a pro air hockey table and I'd love to give it to the hospital. And I said, is it pro? And he said, yeah. I'm like, I'll take it. So it's at my house.

[Dale Hellestray]

It's nice.

[John Holberg]

I'll give him mine. Mine's the step down from the real good ones.

[Doug Hopkins]

I think the way you get Meathead involved, you say, I'll. You'll carry the slate, wherever it is.

[John Holberg]

I will help him carry some slate. No, no, you'll carry the slate for the children tablet. The children's table is much smaller. Definitely handle the slate on that. But, yeah. Thanks in advance. Meathead. I don't know if you've known, but you are now involved. Prestige Billiards helping us out. And they got grills and all sorts of stuff. Dale. So we'll just put that together. And by the way, Meathead, where's my grill? Anyway, we'll get into that a little bit. Whoa. Well, let's talk. Because he. We were. I made a deal with him to come out and put it in. And then he's been, like, going doing other stuff, and I'm not really putting.

[Dale Hellestray]

He's busy.

[John Holberg]

He's very busy. But I'm like, where's my grill?

[Doug Hopkins]

You're not grilling in the summer anyway.

[John Holberg]

Oh, I grill. I love the summer grill. Oh, I love it. That's the only time. Nothing better than the heat outside. Oh, yeah. And then you put the steak. There's no flies, there's no bugs. The steak goes in the air and the heat makes it smelly.

[Dale Hellestray]

You don't grill in the summer.

[John Holberg]

Oh, that's the only time I will.

[Doug Hopkins]

But I'd rather grill in the spring and fall.

[John Holberg]

No, no, no, no. That's when everybody's doing it. Be unique. Try something that you're. Such a sheep. Such a sheep. Do it when the. Do it when the shepherds are grilling like me. Let's talk about this. You and I had dinner last night with Kevin Ray at a place called Brody. So thanks to Brody's for dropping the price a little bit. We didn't know why we met there. Like we were going to just go have a couple drinks and hang out.

[Doug Hopkins]

Right.

[John Holberg]

Hadn't talked to Kray for a bit. Chris Harris was there.

[Dale Hellestray]

Krame. Morning cupped it. Nice.

[John Holberg]

Korea big time. Morning cupped it because as we were saying, Trevor's and cold beers and cheeseburgers in the kind of the middle ground he goes. And he always starts every sentence with.

[Doug Hopkins]

I did. Gave it over like 12 years. It's like.

[John Holberg]

But he never does it on the air. Just when he's talking. Well, let me tell you, I gotta get on this. He, for some reason, fires off. Well, let's all meet at Brody's. Yeah, And Brody's is like a nice Italian restaurant with a nice bar. And it's kind of like a restaurant. And the us four, we're zips.

[Doug Hopkins]

Yeah, we are.

[John Holberg]

We're dudes who should be in zips. And even then, we're. We're pushing the boundaries.

[Dale Hellestray]

It's like, what has just walked in the door?

[John Holberg]

Oh, they were looking at us like, wow, these aren't our normal gays. And. And so we walked in there and we had our. And. And Dale. Every time Dale opened his mouth, it was offensive and vulgar.

[Doug Hopkins]

Dale.

[John Holberg]

And it was only when this poor man who kept refilling our waters was at the table. And Dale didn't know he was there. And I mean, well, you should have just in her mouth like, what in the world? And this poor guy. Poor guy's pouring water.

[Dale Hellestray]

I don't believe that.

[Doug Hopkins]

What did he say right before we came there? I don't ever out anybody.

[John Holberg]

I'm not telling your real story. These are the fun ones. I'll keep your private stuff private. This wasn't private. This was you telling some poor immigrant every dirty thing you've ever thought of. In your mind, you were talking to Kevin when you said it. And I looked at Harrison, I'm like, that's the third time that poor man has had to hear it over. I know.

[Doug Hopkins]

He kept coming over, kept refilling those waters. Okay, so I did bring this up.

[John Holberg]

Yeah.

[Doug Hopkins]

And we'll keep it kind of anonymous.

[John Holberg]

Yeah.

[Doug Hopkins]

Well, just. It's some guy. Oh, yeah. Yeah.

[John Holberg]

It's a friend of a friend.

[Doug Hopkins]

We know that. We don't. We don't really know this guy, but.

[John Holberg]

This was an interesting story. Dale hurt on the golf course.

[Doug Hopkins]

But maybe you have had this happen to you. I mean, you're a sexy human being kind of a. What would Brady do?

[John Holberg]

Okay, what are you guys in a funhouse mirror or something sexier?

[Dale Hellestray]

Dale's right.

[Doug Hopkins]

He's lost some weight.

[John Holberg]

Okay.

[Doug Hopkins]

He's lost some weight. He looks okay.

[John Holberg]

I agree.

[Doug Hopkins]

Give him credit.

[John Holberg]

I do.

[Doug Hopkins]

He lost some weight.

[John Holberg]

It doesn't make him sexy. It just makes him a little lighter.

[Doug Hopkins]

So this person that I heard about through a friend of a friend took his grandkids to a play. Play area. Indoor play place.

[John Holberg]

Yeah.

[Doug Hopkins]

And the grandkids, let's say they're five and three. And. And. And they're having a good time and all that. And. And all sudden, there's a very pretty woman who comes up to said friend.

[John Holberg]

Well, the reason why, though, is because the dude's grandkid.

[Doug Hopkins]

Yeah.

[John Holberg]

Started to fight another grandkid, and so he went over to reprimand the grandkid.

[Doug Hopkins]

Right.

[Dale Hellestray]

To knock it off.

[John Holberg]

We don't do that. Yeah. And he was. He was showing, I guess, a male trait, a manly male trait that some people still. Some people. Some people consider archaic.

[Doug Hopkins]

Yeah.

[John Holberg]

And some people consider, like, the way it should be.

[Doug Hopkins]

Yes.

[John Holberg]

So he's kind of the way we were raised.

[Doug Hopkins]

Right. The way the kids now are. Right.

[John Holberg]

Which are just.

[Doug Hopkins]

Let.

[John Holberg]

Let them run wild.

[Doug Hopkins]

And. And this said woman came over and was very impressed with the way it was handled.

[John Holberg]

Right. The beating. The beating. The beating this man gave that child was a big thumbs up.

[Doug Hopkins]

And. And so she came over, and all of a sudden, a flirtation started. And you're in the. And they were in the middle of a bunch of kids, and this girl's putting her hand on him, and she's. According to him.

[John Holberg]

Wow.

[Doug Hopkins]

Very pretty.

[Dale Hellestray]

Very handsome.

[Doug Hopkins]

Yeah.

[John Holberg]

Very handy.

[Doug Hopkins]

Has that ever happened to you? Number one.

[John Holberg]

Number two, yes, it has.

[Doug Hopkins]

And the other thing is, supposedly this guy's a grandpa.

[John Holberg]

Yeah.

[Dale Hellestray]

But not at a play area.

[Doug Hopkins]

A grandpa. And she's. And this girl Asked him, your kids are very well behaved.

[John Holberg]

Right.

[Doug Hopkins]

How old are they now? That the guy. The guy that I know said, now I have a quandary. Do I tell her that they're my grandkids.

[John Holberg]

Yeah.

[Doug Hopkins]

Or that they're my kids?

[John Holberg]

You let her live the fantasy.

[Doug Hopkins]

Yes.

[John Holberg]

Do you actually use your own grandkids, is the big question, to try and get laid? That's what Dale's buddy was asked.

[Dale Hellestray]

Single?

[John Holberg]

Yeah.

[Doug Hopkins]

What's that?

[Dale Hellestray]

Is grandpa single?

[Doug Hopkins]

Grandpa could be for a day.

[John Holberg]

Anybody single for a day? So this guy tells Dale, you should.

[Doug Hopkins]

Talk about that on the show tomorrow.

[John Holberg]

Like, all right. So Dale asked me last night, like.

[Doug Hopkins]

If you want to bring it up.

[John Holberg]

That'S up to you.

[Doug Hopkins]

And there's rooms in the back.

[John Holberg]

You know, part of the play area.

[Doug Hopkins]

You are.

[John Holberg]

This is right when the guy would pour our waters.

[Doug Hopkins]

You could. At the play area, there's a first time for everything.

[John Holberg]

That's disgusting. So do you use your own grandkids as.

[Dale Hellestray]

As leverage, like a dog at a park?

[John Holberg]

Yeah. Well, dog at a park is. Grandkids are even different than kid kids.

[Doug Hopkins]

Yes.

[John Holberg]

I.

[Dale Hellestray]

It's interesting. First of all, to him, to begin with.

[Doug Hopkins]

Yes.

[Dale Hellestray]

I don't know. I don't think the. The granddad factor would change the fact that these are my grandkids versus kids.

[John Holberg]

Wouldn't. Would it to you if you walked up to a woman you found very attractive and said, oh, you're doing a wonderful job with your children. And then she goes, those are my grandkids. You're like. Like, immediately would change.

[Doug Hopkins]

I. I thought you were younger.

[John Holberg]

Yeah.

[Doug Hopkins]

Okay.

[Dale Hellestray]

Was she a lot younger than him to.

[Doug Hopkins]

I think she was in her early 40s is what I was thinking.

[Dale Hellestray]

I think you're okay.

[John Holberg]

You think it's okay to lie and use your grandkids as sex bait?

[Dale Hellestray]

Yeah.

[Doug Hopkins]

We'll be right back.

[Dale Hellestray]

No, no, no.

[Doug Hopkins]

Kirby, go.

[Dale Hellestray]

First of all, I'm saying no to begin with on the.

[John Holberg]

That's offensive. And since the owners are in town, I want to remind everyone of who you're listening to. 93. 3. That's right.

[Doug Hopkins]

Just.

[John Holberg]

Just a reminder of who you're listening to for your complaint letters of.

[Doug Hopkins]

Yes, I did notice a different atmosphere when I walked in.

[John Holberg]

Did you?

[Doug Hopkins]

I mean, Tripp was, like, walking. There's a lot of attention and. And everybody's nodding, and everybody looks.

[John Holberg]

Everybody looks clean.

[Doug Hopkins]

Yes. I, like, took a shower this morning.

[John Holberg]

A couple of them.

[Doug Hopkins]

Except for you.

[John Holberg]

People.

[Dale Hellestray]

People saluting.

[John Holberg]

Yeah. There was a lot of. There's a lot of. It's Very phony. It's awful. And nobody acts, nobody behaves.

[Doug Hopkins]

How many. How many days are they in here?

[John Holberg]

I don't know. Too many.

[Doug Hopkins]

Really. One's too many.

[John Holberg]

Too many. And again, if they're listening, remember you're listening to 93. 3, the owners right now. Now let's play guess that sound. I'm just kidding. All right.

[Doug Hopkins]

Okay. So we went to dinner last night anyway. So you would say yes.

[Dale Hellestray]

I don't think he needs to lie, by the way.

[John Holberg]

Worst phrase Dale's ever said is, should grandpa come clean? And then talking about this situation. Yuck.

[Dale Hellestray]

I think he overreacted.

[John Holberg]

Yeah, but it's an age thing. I think it's more of like, oh, she thinks I'm like 40.

[Dale Hellestray]

Are hung up on it. More so than she would.

[John Holberg]

And he's.

[Dale Hellestray]

That's my call.

[John Holberg]

Does this guy look good?

[Doug Hopkins]

Yeah, come on.

[John Holberg]

He's a handsome guy.

[Doug Hopkins]

I don't hang around ugly guys.

[John Holberg]

Well, thanks, Dale. That's awesome. I appreciate hearing that. That's true. You don't. We were at dinner last night.

[Doug Hopkins]

Yes.

[John Holberg]

Everybody at the table last night is like, dale, this is ridiculous. Like, there's no. And so now we all want to go back to this play area. All of us want to go see grandpa try to make. Make some moves on some lady. And all Dale has to just point him out, there's my guy. And then he's just trying to roll.

[Doug Hopkins]

I think her name is Nikita or something like that.

[John Holberg]

He's trying to roll bitches at area. Hear the words you say sometimes. I mean, who talks like that? 98.

[Doug Hopkins]

Holberg's morning sickness.

[John Holberg]

How old were her kids?

[Doug Hopkins]

She. She had like a three year old.

[John Holberg]

Oh, fresh.

[Doug Hopkins]

Yeah. And I mean, the conversation supposedly opened up quite. Quite like how she became pregnant.

[Dale Hellestray]

Well, I'm gonna say, even now.

[John Holberg]

What. According to him, he didn't know how she became pregnant.

[Doug Hopkins]

No, but the process.

[Dale Hellestray]

What's involved.

[Doug Hopkins]

Yes.

[John Holberg]

We all know how it happened, right?

[Doug Hopkins]

There's different ways of doing that.

[John Holberg]

Well, yeah. There's different positions. She got into that.

[Doug Hopkins]

Yes.

[John Holberg]

Holy smokes.

[Doug Hopkins]

According to him.

[John Holberg]

Wait. And he had a question of whether I should. He should have married her on the spot. This girl is. She's a conversationalist. Dale. This is a. This is an orator. She. She.

[Dale Hellestray]

Frankly, Maya Angelou got right into it.

[Doug Hopkins]

He. He said it was the first time it's really ever happened to him in.

[John Holberg]

A situation like, man.

[Doug Hopkins]

So I. So my advice to him, Johnny, is what?

[John Holberg]

Bone in the playhouse.

[Doug Hopkins]

Hey, kids play around for about 20 minutes. They're busy.

[John Holberg]

Yeah. Grandpa met a new friend.

[Doug Hopkins]

The bathrooms are big.

[John Holberg]

Yeah, Pop Pop's gonna take a Viagra. I'll be back in 12 minutes. Wow. Well. Yeah. So. Well, tell us how that follow up with this at the very least. And hopefully your friend is listening. And he's like, you guys gave solid advice. I am the normal one that says, I don't think it's kosher to use your grandkids to pick up women.

[Doug Hopkins]

Really? I thought you would use any.

[John Holberg]

I think you can pretend to have kids and pick up women because that's okay because you're already a jerk. But if you're using your real, like down the line, even an adopted one is okay. But a real bloodline. Yeah, Bloodline. Grandkid to get late. I have to. I have to stop the vote, right?

[Dale Hellestray]

It's. It's gonna happen because if it worked that one time. Oh, he's gonna have the grandkids out.

[John Holberg]

More like the dog. I'm gonna rent these kids.

[Doug Hopkins]

Yeah, but maybe you should try John. It's worse for you.

[John Holberg]

It's not even worth it. Getting laid isn't worth having kids around you for a couple hours. I. I could have Sofia Vergara, like, if you had. If only you had a kid nearby. I'm like, that's too much.

[Doug Hopkins]

Dua Lipa is at the play. At the play area.

[John Holberg]

Damn it. It's so hard to win her into the mix if she's at the play area. She's got a kid. So she.

[Doug Hopkins]

And you can't walk in and she.

[Dale Hellestray]

Goes, do you have a kid?

[Doug Hopkins]

Yeah. You can't walk in by yourself.

[John Holberg]

Why not? You can't.

[Doug Hopkins]

And you're a creep.

[John Holberg]

I need to stop doing that.

[Dale Hellestray]

I'm just hanging out in the swing the door.

[Doug Hopkins]

Hey, who's that guy over there?

[John Holberg]

Just love watching. So if Dua Lipa was there, that means she has kids and that means she's got an std. So I'm not interested.

[Dale Hellestray]

You bring up a good point on the three year old. That's pretty fresh.

[John Holberg]

What are you saying?

[Dale Hellestray]

She's looking for stability.

[Doug Hopkins]

A kid means an std.

[John Holberg]

A kid is an std. It's a sexually transmitted disease. They never go away. It's for life.

[Dale Hellestray]

It's permanent.

[John Holberg]

It's incurable. Oh, AIDS is easier you get. You don't have to live with AIDS very long.

[Doug Hopkins]

Oh my goodness.

[John Holberg]

You gotta live with kids until forever.

[Doug Hopkins]

But Dua Lipa has a child.

[John Holberg]

I'm out.

[Doug Hopkins]

Oh, that. So that knocks her off.

[John Holberg]

Oh, out.

[Doug Hopkins]

Really?

[John Holberg]

Yeah. That's done. Yeah, she's there caring for an infant.

[Dale Hellestray]

Which is gonna happen here soon with her new.

[John Holberg]

Yeah, I know. She's getting. She's engaged. Hopefully that guy screws it up, keeps the hope alive. Keep hope alive. You never know. And the last time I wanna. If I'm picking up chicks at Kindergart, there's a lot wrong with me anyway. Dua, lipa or otherwise.

[Doug Hopkins]

There's enough wrong with you already.

[John Holberg]

Exactly. Why add to it? Why add to it by saying, you.

[Doug Hopkins]

Know, where I met her, I had.

[John Holberg]

Pretended had grandkids and it's horrible.

[Doug Hopkins]

Yeah, worse.

[John Holberg]

Your dick shouldn't work anymore.

[Doug Hopkins]

You're all done. He also listened to the show and he said. So now you know, because we've talked about the 60s, the 160 year old women, 50 year old women, whatever. How many would look at you. Yeah, well, I mean that. Now we're down on the fourth floor with. With my buddy here, you know that.

[John Holberg]

You know, he's an attractive man with grandkids.

[Doug Hopkins]

Yes.

[John Holberg]

And he's been, you know, maybe he should tell his. Now if he starts getting a little too like I need those grandkids again when he starts abducting them and running over the thing, then he's got a problem. Yeah. I need to take care of those kids again. It's two in the morning. I need to take care of the goddamn kids.

[Doug Hopkins]

Get him. You just did it yesterday. Grandpa. I can't get enough.

[John Holberg]

Why is grandpa wrecked and dying to have the kids in the car anyway?

[Doug Hopkins]

All right, so. So last night we go to dinner. Yeah. And. And you didn't speak real highly of the place you went to. So we won't mention it.

[John Holberg]

No, it was good. I already mentioned it. It was. If it was fine. It just. It was too much butter. It's too rich food. And it made me.

[Doug Hopkins]

Yes.

[John Holberg]

Volatile.

[Doug Hopkins]

Yes, it did. So. So to paint the pictures, Chris Harris and John are sitting there, Kevin Ray and I are sitting there and we're in the middle of a conversation and all of a sudden John goes, I gotta go. Yeah, I had to leave. What do you got going on?

[John Holberg]

It was time to go.

[Doug Hopkins]

Time to go. As we're. So we walk out behind him. We're a tad bit behind him. What are we looking at?

[John Holberg]

Yeah, Brady, stop it. You're distracted. Brady can't have windows. You don't understand. Yeah, Brady can't have windows. He starts moving around. If there's, if there's anything to read or see, he's going to distract.

[Doug Hopkins]

Oh, that's a big wig, then there isn't.

[John Holberg]

Just pay attention to us, Brady.

[Doug Hopkins]

We're.

[Dale Hellestray]

We're on a discussion right now.

[John Holberg]

Both of you have attention deficit. You stay with your story and you pay attention to this room. Go ahead. Yeah.

[Doug Hopkins]

And. And we walk out, we get to the front door and we're going to yell goodbye to Johnny. Johnny's flying down already in the car. Had it go about 6.

[John Holberg]

The butter cake was a buttery rich meal.

[Doug Hopkins]

Yeah.

[John Holberg]

And we sat after I ate it for about an hour and a half.

[Doug Hopkins]

Was it that long?

[John Holberg]

Listening to Dale talk about his perverted grandparent friends and Kevin talking work and jobs. And we all had our, you know, our say about that. And then my stomach started to like, oh, this is brewing. We got something bad. It's that butter. And I remember looking at the meal going, there's too much butter in this. It's swimming in butter.

[Dale Hellestray]

And I knew that he's trying to. I want to go to this place.

[John Holberg]

Oh, it was good. But it's for a guy that doesn't, like, drown. There's a rich factor. And I'm like, I'm gonna have a rough night.

[Doug Hopkins]

Right up Brady's alley. You like butter when you get a.

[John Holberg]

Meal of basically rice and vegetables, and at the end you can drink it like you had cereal milk because there's so much butter in there. Yeah. You liked it. For me. For me it's an escape. It's ex lax.

[Dale Hellestray]

It's like tea.

[John Holberg]

So I got in the car. I'm like, I know what's gonna happen in about 20 minutes. I have to get this out and it's not gonna be good. And I wanna shower afterwards. I wanna be clean. And so you guys were going and you were telling another terribly boring story. I'm like, that's it. I gotta go. And I just jumped up.

[Dale Hellestray]

It only takes so much.

[John Holberg]

I. Larry David.

[Doug Hopkins]

That's it. Let's go.

[John Holberg]

I've gotta get out of here. I.

[Doug Hopkins]

So. So you made it home.

[John Holberg]

Yeah.

[Doug Hopkins]

And no accidents?

[John Holberg]

Oh, no, I don't have accidents. I've got a sphincter.

[Doug Hopkins]

You've never had an accident.

[John Holberg]

I could take coal and make a diamond with it.

[Doug Hopkins]

You are.

[John Holberg]

I have had accidents, but more so just because I'm like, let's see what's going on here. And I didn't expect it, but it's never been. Oh, I can't. I can't hold it. I can hold it forever.

[Doug Hopkins]

Let's see what's going.

[John Holberg]

It's the fart that you thought and then it turns into, like, the whole. Next thing you know, you're, uh.

[Doug Hopkins]

O.

[Dale Hellestray]

It produced.

[John Holberg]

Yeah, I've had mo. Everybody's had those moments, but I've never.

[Doug Hopkins]

Had you act like you're normal.

[John Holberg]

I'm completely normal.

[Doug Hopkins]

You shower after every bowel movement. Yeah, because I'm weird.

[John Holberg]

No, it's weird to not do it.

[Doug Hopkins]

Brady.

[John Holberg]

Don't ask him.

[Doug Hopkins]

Captain rust butt over here loves that.

[John Holberg]

He loves.

[Doug Hopkins]

Two showers this morning.

[John Holberg]

Yeah. I had to double down. I took one and then I.

[Doug Hopkins]

Hey, you got in the cars. Turned three.

[John Holberg]

I thought I was going to throw up. I was going to make myself throw up because my stomach was just rich. Food makes me feel bad. So I was like, ah, this isn't good. And then I was like, I think I'm going to throw up. And then I just spun around and I'm like, no, I can. I can make this go away in a different direction. And I did it. And then I got in the shower and I cleaned up, and then I got in the car and I started to leave and I'm like, no, we're not done yet. And I turned back around.

[Dale Hellestray]

Peekaboo.

[John Holberg]

And I went back in. It was a little later than normal this morning. And I went back in and I did it again. I hopped back in the shower and I spread them open.

[Dale Hellestray]

You came right in the office this morning.

[John Holberg]

No, no Rust. But I tell you right now, if you guys wanted to eat some more of that risotto. But he. It's spotless.

[Dale Hellestray]

He said I'm the reason I'm late.

[John Holberg]

Yeah.

[Dale Hellestray]

Right away.

[John Holberg]

Double down. Yeah.

[Doug Hopkins]

So does Megan know that you, like. There's no.

[John Holberg]

There's no reason to bring other people into it. It's my life and it's my anus. Like, why is that a thing? Like, I treat my anus like Ladies bark about abortion. My body, my. Right. Yeah. My choice. I do what I want. It's. No, no, she doesn't need to know. No one needs to know. But you're the one who constantly brings it up.

[Doug Hopkins]

Yeah, but she wonders why you come back in.

[John Holberg]

No, no, no. I go to. I go in through the garage.

[Dale Hellestray]

There's options.

[John Holberg]

I'm not. Yeah, there's nothing about that that seems.

[Doug Hopkins]

There's not a shower in that one in the garage.

[John Holberg]

Oh, yeah.

[Doug Hopkins]

No.

[John Holberg]

Well, in the Steelers one there isn't, but there's a spare bedroom back there. Oh, that's got a whole bathroom. No, you do not need to find that. It's a low flush toilet. I do worry because this morning I went in there, and it's one of those low flows. It's not designed for a, you know, heavyweight fight. Like, it's Manny Pacquiao. Pacquiao and Tyson Fury. This is an unfair battle. But then the shower, right away, afterwards.

[Doug Hopkins]

Oh, okay. Yeah, I'll have to find that next time.

[John Holberg]

Well, you can go in there, but it's. It's awful. It's broken. I'll take the toilet out.

[Dale Hellestray]

You have to replace it.

[John Holberg]

Look, first off, there was a guy who took a dump at my house, and I demanded, if you ever want to come back, he brings me a new toilet. What? Cause that one was ruined. And he did. His name is Ted Huffman, and he didn't know the rules that you can't dump at my house. If I find out you dumped at my house, you're banned until you bring me a new toilet. Ask Paul Sura. He pooped at my house. And I said, you're out.

[Doug Hopkins]

In the Steeler bathroom.

[John Holberg]

In any bathroom at all in my home, if you take a dump, you're out.

[Doug Hopkins]

There's a Taco Bell that's not very hospitable.

[John Holberg]

What's not hospitable? What's not hospitable is the guest. While you have people over sharing a.

[Doug Hopkins]

Bathroom, it's a normal body function.

[John Holberg]

No, there's a Taco Bell a quarter mile away. Good, good, good, good.

[Doug Hopkins]

Go. You gotta buy something.

[John Holberg]

No, you don't. Okay, find a place. You don't go in, wander in, sit down for a second, then run to the bathroom. Fool them. They're Taco Bell employees.

[Dale Hellestray]

Chalupa while you're doing it.

[John Holberg]

Oh, that's disgusting. That's too far. You've gone too far.

[Doug Hopkins]

It brought back a quick memory. My brother, when he used to go to the bathroom when he was younger, he literally bring a Kool Aid drink or something to eat. I'm like, what the hell are you doing?

[John Holberg]

That's disgusting. I stopped our old receptionist at the old building. She went into the ladies room with two strawberry Pop Tarts. And I'm like, that's it.

[Doug Hopkins]

No.

[John Holberg]

Jillian stopped walking. She goes, I'm going to my lunch hour. I'm like, we eat lunch.

[Doug Hopkins]

She's killing two birds with one straw.

[John Holberg]

No, she's just killing me. That's what she's doing. She's killing me and she's killing my dream to live a couple more years. I don't want to know that she's in there just going.

[Doug Hopkins]

Strawberries. Good. She needs a bigger break.

[John Holberg]

She Needs a bigger brain is what she needs. By the way, out of all this. Today, the one thing people are getting is that Sex Bait Grandkids might be the best band name of all time. Sex Bait Grandkids. All right, let's talk about something sports related. First off, congratulations to the Phoenix Suns for the existence of the Los Angeles Clippers. Because without the Los Angeles Clippers, the Suns are the dumbest team and management. The Clippers. When there's a bad deal to be made, we'll make it. And they took the Suns, and they said, you're off the hook with Bradley Beal. Congratulations. We'll pay for a third of that. You kick it, it's a buyout. And the Suns are like, good. We don't have the full price. We're done with this. He's gone. Nobody can yell at us anymore. We eat this for a year or so on the extra, and it's unbelievable. But this team is now just Devin Booker.

[Doug Hopkins]

The Clippers are the Browns of the NBA. If there's a bad deal to be made, they're gonna do it.

[John Holberg]

Hear the words you say sometimes? I mean, who talks like that?

[Doug Hopkins]

98, KUPD, Holmberg's Morning Sickness. But here's the thing we were talking about on my other show with Steve. The main event.

[John Holberg]

Yes, the main event.

[Doug Hopkins]

Robot TV, Robat TV. Yes. After we scoured the ESPYs last night.

[John Holberg]

Oh, yeah.

[Doug Hopkins]

Gotta go through that war by war. But here's the thing, Johnny. What happens if next year he's in a position to where he's gonna play 60 games and he's gonna start at the two guard and he averages 25 points a game?

[John Holberg]

Well, that's what you got him for here.

[Doug Hopkins]

Right?

[John Holberg]

And he just couldn't stay healthy. Like what Kevin Ray said last night. There is absolutely nothing about his past that tells me you're getting 60, 70 games out of him.

[Doug Hopkins]

Exactly. But. But why? Why?

[John Holberg]

It's worth the risk statistically.

[Doug Hopkins]

Everybody talks about. Okay, now that Durant and Beal are gone, did the Suns really screw up? Durant trade. I said, it's a once in a lifetime thing. Take a shot. Yeah.

[John Holberg]

I loved the train.

[Doug Hopkins]

It didn't work out. Take a shot. But the Beal thing again, I think I said it's like they read all the addendums, but H, Yeah. And H is no trade. It's like, oh, we didn't know that was in there.

[John Holberg]

And they didn't pay attention to on paper. Statistically, this looks great. Except for games played. Hovers around 35 and by the way.

[Doug Hopkins]

We got a guy on our team that kind of does what this guy does. Yeah.

[John Holberg]

You have two of them.

[Doug Hopkins]

Yes.

[John Holberg]

And one's better than the other. And by the way, you have no point guard. And when you did get a point guard, you hardly used them. And we're right back where we were.

[Doug Hopkins]

And here you are getting.

[John Holberg]

The good news is there's the Clippers. Yes, they will do this. They will do this to be just as dumb as the dumbest team. And the Suns currently, in my opinion, are the second dumbest team as far as trying to scramble out of something.

[Doug Hopkins]

Tell me this, how are you going to be feeling next April? May, as the season comes to an end, The Suns are trying to get to 30 wins.

[Dale Hellestray]

You got to cut your check for the tickets.

[Doug Hopkins]

And the Clippers are the four seed, and so they're playing the Western Conference finals.

[John Holberg]

Man, it feel kicks ass. You just have to assume that's only going to happen there. If he was here, he'd have gotten hurt. Like, you just. You have to give. You have to understand that all the pressure to get rid of him was there. And now that they got rid of him, everybody's like, but what if he's great now? It's like, you can't win this fight.

[Doug Hopkins]

I think I said it on here before. It's like, can the Valley have anything nice? We can't have anything. You just know ASU football is going to fall flat on his face.

[John Holberg]

You think?

[Doug Hopkins]

Don't you have that feeling in the pit of your stomach? I don't.

[John Holberg]

I think they ran scatter boost so hard that they didn't realize all he offered, like, how many first downs he got because it was him.

[Doug Hopkins]

I saw a highlight package.

[John Holberg]

He's incredible.

[Doug Hopkins]

You know, I mean, it was amazing. I could just see. And I love asu. I love coaches down.

[John Holberg]

Yeah.

[Doug Hopkins]

But in the pit of my stomach, when's the last time ASU had two really good back?

[John Holberg]

And they're leaving it on Levitt, the quarterback.

[Doug Hopkins]

Yeah.

[John Holberg]

That starts in what, three weeks?

[Doug Hopkins]

Yeah.

[John Holberg]

So you're leaving it on. On. On Levitt to be this Heisman hopeful. And he's good, but was he good? Because you had the battering ram. Did you had that escape route every play and they took advantage of it.

[Doug Hopkins]

It. We watched that Texas game together.

[John Holberg]

Yeah.

[Doug Hopkins]

Yeah. My friend John Levitt came over with you Love it.

[John Holberg]

Love. It's not love it.

[Doug Hopkins]

Love it.

[Dale Hellestray]

You love it.

[John Holberg]

I love it.

[Doug Hopkins]

It love it. How do they get back in that game? Sam Levitt didn't all of a sudden throw four touchdown passes.

[John Holberg]

No, they.

[Doug Hopkins]

They.

[John Holberg]

Cam. Cam started wearing them.

[Doug Hopkins]

Yes.

[John Holberg]

And in the first half he couldn't do anything. And then he did.

[Doug Hopkins]

Yeah.

[John Holberg]

And how many games last year did Scatterboo get that extra yard that kept drives alive, that actually won close games? And they don't have that guy now. I don't think they fall apart because I think Dillingham actually is.

[Doug Hopkins]

Oh, the real deal. I love him and his staff.

[John Holberg]

Yeah, I think what they've done there.

[Doug Hopkins]

But John, I. I've been here since I was born in 62. History tells you after they left the whack and went to the pack.

[John Holberg]

Yeah.

[Doug Hopkins]

That they have one good year.

[John Holberg]

Yeah. 87. 97. And then it took until 2024. Yeah, that's true. All right, well, thanks for that uplifting news. That's great. Dale. Dale, the sports genius. Now, when you played football, there was.

[Doug Hopkins]

No hold on to this. Well, what about. What about your boy at the golf tournament this past weekend?

[John Holberg]

I didn't see any of it.

[Doug Hopkins]

You see Aaron Rodgers?

[John Holberg]

No.

[Doug Hopkins]

Completely act like an imbecile.

[Dale Hellestray]

I read one of the things. I watched a little bit.

[Doug Hopkins]

I saw that. What did he do? Obviously at that Pro Am up in.

[John Holberg]

In Tahoe.

[Doug Hopkins]

Tahoe, yeah. There's tons of fans there. They got autographs. It's a screw around tournament.

[Dale Hellestray]

He's throwing footballs. He's throwing passes.

[John Holberg]

That sounds fun.

[Doug Hopkins]

No, but. Yeah, but a couple guys, Couple kids asked for autographs. They said, don't bother me right now.

[John Holberg]

That's right. That's too much.

[Dale Hellestray]

He asked the kid. Didn't he ask one of them who's your favorite? I'm a big fan. Who's your favorite player? And the kid couldn't name one.

[John Holberg]

And also he probably saw their mom like your friend, and thought, she's not hot enough to deal with these kids. Get him out of my. John, I. I don't know if that's true. If it's an AI. It may be an AI gal. I don't know what's going on there. Oh, we don't talk about that yet. Football's coming. No, we're in for a. We're in for a big long. Yeah, real long year. All the way to February, I think. When you played football, did you. What time? All right, well then come in. When. What's this distraction?

[Doug Hopkins]

Toledo coming in, a smile on his.

[John Holberg]

Face, pointing to his watch. I know that's all I needed to be distracted.

[Doug Hopkins]

Jesus Christ.

[John Holberg]

Has anybody seen an entertainment close?

[Dale Hellestray]

It's like A cuckoo clock.

[John Holberg]

Yeah, it is. Toledo comes in. We closed the door for the first time. So when you played football, there was no ESPYs. But if the Dallas Cowboys at the end of the 94 season.

[Doug Hopkins]

Season. Okay.

[John Holberg]

And that was the one you lost. 93 season. Right. You guys win an award for best.

[Dale Hellestray]

Team, you think you would have gotten it.

[John Holberg]

Yeah. Probably because it was a hell of a team. Because you were. Well, you'd gone up against the Bulls in 93. It was the strike season. In. In baseball or not 94. Either way.

[Doug Hopkins]

Either way.

[John Holberg]

It was the Blue Jays. So you probably. It wouldn't. They wouldn't have won anything. SBI it had been Bulls, Cowboys and hockey was. I think. I don't know. The 93 was probably those. Oh, Michael Penguins.

[Doug Hopkins]

I think Michael Scotty. Yeah.

[John Holberg]

It would have been Bulls, Cowboys. So you guys. Yeah, you guys are the same. I often that breath falls right out of me. Hella straight. Pippen, Jordan. But it wouldn't have mattered to you.

[Doug Hopkins]

Not one bit.

[John Holberg]

Not at all. Because you don't care if you're better than the Dodgers.

[Doug Hopkins]

No.

[John Holberg]

Or anything. You get best. You're the champions of what you went for. And nobody would ever say, I hope we get an SB for that. Or, oh, you're going to win an sb.

[Doug Hopkins]

I have mixed emotions about it because again, this is. If you're in sports talk.

[John Holberg]

Yeah.

[Doug Hopkins]

This is the worst week. Other than there's some stuff going on now.

[John Holberg]

Absolutely.

[Doug Hopkins]

But usually it's the deadest. Yeah. I mean the beer locally and whatever. But usually that's not happening. And it's a. A dead ass week.

[John Holberg]

Yeah.

[Doug Hopkins]

And. And ESPN kind of capitalized on that.

[John Holberg]

Yeah.

[Doug Hopkins]

And they get all their frumpy frumps together.

[John Holberg]

They shoehorn this weird thing into our lives and they act like it's important. And for some reason over time we just allowed it to become important. And it's like, oh, the SBS people. But no one's ever.

[Dale Hellestray]

I found out about it this morning.

[John Holberg]

Yeah.

[Dale Hellestray]

I had no idea the SBS really happened.

[Doug Hopkins]

You didn't want to see a Simone Biles won.

[John Holberg]

Yeah. No. She got a gold medal.

[Doug Hopkins]

I saw the things.

[Dale Hellestray]

She wanted to know what's going on.

[John Holberg]

But like three sports guys last night and Dale sat at a table and none of us cared that the ESPYs were on Kevin Ray.

[Doug Hopkins]

I thought that's why you were running off. You wanted to see the espy.

[John Holberg]

I had to leave to see who won best team. Chris Harris is a sportscaster. I am a sportscaster of high regard. Kevin Ray, well known NFL, NBA. Yeah, he does it all. And then Dale. Was there a guy who gives advice to grandpas, but no one was. We didn't mention it once as I drove home. Fully clinched. I thought we didn't mention that the ESPYs were a thing at all.

[Doug Hopkins]

We did not.

[John Holberg]

Because it's not.

[Doug Hopkins]

It really is. But it won't stop. Other than the fact that. Seriously, that it's the only night of the year that they're not a sport on.

[John Holberg]

Right.

[Doug Hopkins]

You know, and they've kind of hoodwinked themselves.

[John Holberg]

But wouldn't this be a better opportunity to have the. The greatest WNBA day ever and start at noon and have their games just showcased on ESPN all day? Nobody'd watch.

[Doug Hopkins]

No. But guess what they did yesterday. The Mercury played like at noon. There's a ten o' clock game.

[John Holberg]

That's just. It's dumb. They're just so poorly marketed.

[Doug Hopkins]

Noon on a guy. I know you and Sophie Cunningham go way back.

[John Holberg]

We do. We're good friends.

[Doug Hopkins]

She is. She's taking the world by now. It might last for a month. It might last for a week. She's beautiful.

[John Holberg]

But people are going to watch that blonde hair flip around no matter what it's doing.

[Doug Hopkins]

But when she was here, she didn't have that national appeal. Is it all because she.

[John Holberg]

Because she got no fight for Caitlin Clark? Well, because there's no national appeal to the WNBA until Caitlin Clark's in your town. Okay, so once she was standing next to the one person that people pay attention to.

[Dale Hellestray]

Tarasi didn't lift her up, and then.

[John Holberg]

She got into a scissor fight on the court. We were all like, this has a chance to be more than just Subarus. This could actually turn into a big sex run.

[Doug Hopkins]

You could beat her in a fight. I mean, she knows black belt.

[John Holberg]

She's a black belt. When she was six years old, that's when she got her black belt.

[Doug Hopkins]

So she hasn't gotten better at it.

[John Holberg]

She stopped at six.

[Doug Hopkins]

And.

[John Holberg]

And, and look, she knew what to do as far as getting somebody. Oh, yeah, but it was a little sloppy. It was a girlfriend fight. It was a girl fight.

[Doug Hopkins]

Well, she's backpedaling, John.

[John Holberg]

It was a girl fight and the other girl had no skills at all.

[Doug Hopkins]

So you're saying you'd have a chance against Sophie if you and her got in scuffle?

[John Holberg]

You mean sexually? I don't know. What do you mean by chance? Well, if I'm in a fight with her.

[Doug Hopkins]

You had no chance.

[John Holberg]

A couple of grandkids yeah, if I had two grandkids, she might be like, hey, this guy looks good for his grandkids. Anyway, Dale Hellestre is here. He's done nothing for sports today. Nothing at all. To let us know what's going on.

[Dale Hellestray]

He's like the s. Beast.

[John Holberg]

He is. He's the ass beast. But we got.

[Doug Hopkins]

Do you like that?

[John Holberg]

Comedian Shane Gillis is very funny and he had a couple of good jokes.

[Dale Hellestray]

He was.

[John Holberg]

But that's the whole thing. The host is the hot. Peyton Manning did a good job in a couple years. They just turn it off and they start handing out awards for, you know, best shoe or.

[Doug Hopkins]

Are you sad that Lee or. You don't like college football, do you?

[John Holberg]

I hate it.

[Doug Hopkins]

How do you hate it?

[John Holberg]

I don't want to watch your kids doing things.

[Doug Hopkins]

Yeah, but you don't have to heed it.

[John Holberg]

You can say now that they're getting paid. Now that they're getting paid, I do like it little bit better because it's. Because it was all such a. Because it was all a lie. It was all a fixed rigged mess. And now it's even more fixed and rigged.

[Dale Hellestray]

But now that they're getting paid publicly.

[John Holberg]

Right, Exactly. Now that they're not hiding behind this whole amateur sport nonsense.

[Doug Hopkins]

And you know, if this was back in 1981, the Nesmu never got the death penalty.

[John Holberg]

That's right. And that's a little bit of a time you guys were. You guys were. You had figured out how to pay players the. You had the. What do they call it? The LIN or whatever. The. Whatever that thing. Rli. I don't know what it is. Mci tmz, but they have the. Yeah, the nil.

[Doug Hopkins]

Nil.

[John Holberg]

They give the nil. You guys were doing that way before it was even invented.

[Doug Hopkins]

Yeah.

[John Holberg]

It's impressive.

[Doug Hopkins]

And it's in.

[John Holberg]

It's.

[Doug Hopkins]

And it was actually. You got paid on production and again.

[John Holberg]

We'Ve talked about this. Your school got the death penalty for paying players some money. Ohio State won a national championship. They've raped over 3,000 people and paid people illegally. Oh, that's. That's nothing. Nothing.

[Dale Hellestray]

That's how you win champions.

[John Holberg]

That's how you get it.

[Doug Hopkins]

Have you come to grips? Yep. With this whole. Oh, has he.

[John Holberg]

Yeah, yeah. He's rose colored glass. He's got the scarlet and gray right back on.

[Dale Hellestray]

We're just a little over a month away from kickoff.

[Doug Hopkins]

You become an Ohio fan this year.

[John Holberg]

You should.

[Dale Hellestray]

The Bobcats.

[Doug Hopkins]

Yeah.

[Dale Hellestray]

I've never left the Bobcats all the way.

[John Holberg]

The Bobcats yes, you have. You don't even know who plays for the Bobcats.

[Dale Hellestray]

They open up.

[John Holberg]

Who was the quarterback last year?

[Dale Hellestray]

It was Frank Solich. And then when replace him with 2,012 years ago.

[John Holberg]

Frank Solich died like eight years ago.

[Dale Hellestray]

Dennis Erickson. He's been.

[John Holberg]

No, he's not. That's not true. He came up with two coaches names that could very potentially be there. They're not Dale Hell Streets here, courtesy of our friends at prestige billiards. Az.commention meathead, get 10% off and do something nice. And then put the heat on Meathead to help out with the Phoenix Children's Hospital with Fitz's deal. We'll do an entertainment drill with Brady and Dale next. It's out of control now.