07-21-25 - WWBD - His Late Shift Crew Is Mostly Hispanic And One White Lady Bitches They Should Speak English - He Doesn't Love His Wife And Has Started Dating An NBA Dancer

Summary

Holmberg's Morning Sickness - Arizona: Episode Summary (07-21-25)

Release Date: July 21, 2025

Host and Contributors:

• John Holmberg (Host)
• Brett Vesely (Co-host)
• Brady Bogen (Co-host)
• Dick Toledo (Occasional Contributor)

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1. Introduction and Advertisements (00:00 - 01:58)

The episode kicks off with sponsorship messages. Brett Vesely promotes Game Day Men's Health, emphasizing discreet and efficient men's health services, while John Holmberg advertises Prestige Billiards, highlighting their extensive range of game room products and five-star Yelp ratings.

Notable Quote:

• John Holmberg (00:38): “Prestige Billiards is family owned and operated and is dedicated to providing the very best quality products and service.”

2. On-Air Banter and Humor (01:58 - 03:20)

John and Brett engage in playful banter, discussing personal dislikes and preferences. The conversation humorously touches on topics like children's interactions and personal habits, setting a light-hearted tone for the show.

Notable Interaction:

• John Holmberg (02:17): “I don't hate kids. I'm not a huge fan.”
• Brett Vesely (02:17): “They suck.”

3. Sponsored Segment: MMP Guns (03:20 - 05:37)

Brady introduces a segment sponsored by MMP Guns, detailing their location and services. Brett shares his experiences upgrading his AR with new triggers and suppressors, sparking a technical discussion about gun modifications, legality, and safety.

Notable Quote:

• Brett Vesely (03:39): “Improving my AR a little bit. Getting a new trigger put in it and then second ordering a suppressor.”

4. Listener Call-In: Dealing with a Racist Coworker (05:37 - 18:50)

A listener, referred to as the "F guy," shares a troubling situation from his late-night retail job. His crew is predominantly Hispanic and black, with one older white lady, Mildred, who vehemently insists that everyone should speak English. Her racist remarks escalate tensions, leading to an uncomfortable work environment.

Discussion Highlights:

• Recognition of Racism: Brett and Brady analyze Mildred’s behavior, labeling her comments as overtly racist and discussing the impact on the workplace.

• Handling the Situation:

  • Brady (06:10): Suggests addressing the issue through Human Resources (HR) if the workplace has such protocols.
  • John Holmberg (07:05): Considers rallying coworkers to report her behavior, emphasizing the need for documented evidence.
  • Strategy Debate: The hosts debate the effectiveness and risks of reporting Mildred, considering potential backlash and the complexity if HR personnel themselves are problematic.

• Proposed Solutions:

  • Brady (08:14): Emphasizes the importance of HR involvement.
  • John Holmberg (09:15): Jokes about extreme measures, highlighting the frustration and impotence felt by coworkers.
  • Group Strategy: They metaphorically suggest involving other coworkers, particularly the black employees, to address Mildred’s racism indirectly.

Notable Quotes:

• Listener (05:37): “She kept complaining about, quote, Mexicans ruining our country, taking our jobs, lazy criminals, so forth, so on.”
• Brady Bogen (07:48): “I can't believe this. Why do we have to do this?”
• John Holmberg (09:28): “She's a racist, she’s gonna handle this. Horses rolling in here all masked up. Black guys will handle it.”

Insights and Conclusions:

• Complexity of Reporting Racism: The hosts acknowledge the difficulty of addressing racism in the workplace, especially when it involves superiors or when institutional support is lacking.
• Support Systems: Emphasizes the importance of having a support system and documented evidence when facing discriminatory behavior.
• Community Responsibility: Encourages listeners to stand against racism collectively rather than individually, to ensure safety and effectiveness.

5. Listener Story: Marital Struggles and New Relationships (18:50 - End)

The episode transitions to a heartfelt listener story about marital discord and the complexities of starting a new relationship amidst personal turmoil. The "F guy" narrates his 27-year marriage's deterioration, his flirtation with an NBA dancer, and the resultant emotional and legal complications.

Discussion Highlights:

• Marital Breakdown: The listener describes the strain in his long-term marriage, leading to living apart and eventual divorce proceedings.

• New Relationship Challenges:

  • Initial Attraction: Begins dating a younger woman, a former NBA dancer, but faces obstacles due to lingering feelings for his wife and legal entanglements.
  • Emotional Conflict: Struggles with love, guilt, and the desire for companionship without wanting to harm his existing family structure.

• Hosts' Advice:

  • Brady Bogen (14:51): Recommends finalizing his divorce before pursuing a new relationship to avoid compound complications.
  • John Holmberg (15:03): Agrees, advising to "clear the decks" before moving forward, emphasizing emotional clarity and legal resolution.

• Reflection on Responsibilities:

  • Financial and Emotional Costs: Acknowledges the high cost of divorce and the emotional toll of maintaining two relationships simultaneously.
  • Personal Integrity: Highlights the importance of being honest with oneself and ensuring that new relationships are entered into with a clear and honest mindset.

Notable Quotes:

• Listener (09:46 - 11:55): “I do have places to go, kind of in seeing a girl in that last two months or so used to be a dancer and cheerleader for an NBA team... Should I run as fast as I can from both? Pick one.”
• Brady Bogen (14:57): “Clear everything before you even look at going into another.”

Insights and Conclusions:

• Importance of Closure: Emphasizes the need for emotional and legal closure before embarking on new relationships to ensure personal well-being and integrity.
• Avoiding Complications: Advises against juggling multiple relationships as it can lead to increased emotional and financial strain.
• Self-Reflection: Encourages listeners to introspect and assess their readiness for new commitments, ensuring they address past issues comprehensively.

6. Closing Remarks and Final Thoughts (18:50 - End)

John Holmberg wraps up the episode by summarizing the key issues discussed: racism in the workplace and the complexities of personal relationships. He reinforces the importance of addressing these challenges with thoughtful strategies and support. The show concludes with humorous exchanges, leaving listeners with a blend of serious insights and light-hearted banter.

Notable Quote:

• John Holmberg (18:49): “Racism. And much like the first story I'm going to tell the F guy, I'm going to tell the F guy. Much like I, you know, mentioned in the first story. Get a couple of black guys in there. They'll handle this.”

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Key Takeaways:

1. Addressing Racism: Confronting racist behavior in the workplace requires a collective and strategic approach, often involving HR and documented evidence to initiate change effectively.
2. Navigating Personal Relationships: Resolving long-standing marital issues before pursuing new relationships is crucial to avoid compounded emotional and legal difficulties.
3. Support Systems Matter: Having supportive colleagues and a reliable support network can significantly impact how one handles both professional and personal challenges.

This episode of Holmberg's Morning Sickness effectively blends humor with serious discussions, providing listeners with both entertainment and valuable insights into handling complex social and personal issues.

Transcript

[Brett Vesely]

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[John Holmberg]

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[Brett Vesely]

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[John Holmberg]

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[Brett Vesely]

But you're not wrong.

[John Holmberg]

No, Brett just compared to Margot Robbie's baby. He compared it to Scott Taylor's deuce this morning. Brett has the Thing for kids. That is not healthy.

[Brett Vesely]

No. I hate him.

[John Holmberg]

It's time now. I don't hate kids. I'm not a huge fan.

[Brett Vesely]

They suck.

[John Holmberg]

Okay. You're very convincing. I like a man who's tell me I'm wrong. No, it's hard to argue, man. I might be leaning your way. Although I'm nice to him. You're nice?

[Brett Vesely]

I'm nice enough. Yeah.

[John Holmberg]

You always get away from them.

[Brett Vesely]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[John Holmberg]

Nothing worse than when somebody thinks it's all a joke and they drag their kid over to me. And kids love me for some reason. It's because I'm a giant one.

[Brett Vesely]

It just seemed to wreck everything.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah. But then they come by, and I'm like, I'll joke with them. Like that kid that came by, Sanjay's daughter that was here. And I just kept saying, like, nobody wants you here. Why do you say that? And she's like, all nervous. I'm like, you're a child. We hate this, by the way. So sit in your chair. We like Sanjay, but, yeah, Sanjay knew. I was just concerned that Sanjay had climbed on a plane to go, like, do a mission for Allah or something and left her behind.

[Brett Vesely]

He was in Spirit Airlines in Florida.

[John Holmberg]

Your father loves you very much. I have to go do some work. You will stay with Emmy. She's your new mummy. Brady, are you ready?

[Brady]

Ready.

[John Holmberg]

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[Brett Vesely]

They're doing some work for me right now.

[John Holmberg]

What do you got?

[Brett Vesely]

Improving my AR a little bit.

[John Holmberg]

In what way?

[Brett Vesely]

Getting a new trigger put in it and then second ordering a suppressor. Oh, yeah.

[John Holmberg]

Look at that smirk on his face.

[Brett Vesely]

Got it all there. Where else would I go? Why would I do anything?

[Brady]

Someone has plans.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah, that's what it sound like. I'm naive. So don't do this as a. It's like a guy asking who doesn't know anything about engines. Asking anything. Are suppressors. Are there. There's legal and illegal suppressors, and I. Obviously, I know MMP guns can go the legal route.

[Brett Vesely]

Yeah, yeah.

[John Holmberg]

But what is the difference?

[Brett Vesely]

It's got to be. It's got to go through the, you know, one you buy from a dealer, and it and it actually gets registered.

[John Holmberg]

But the suppressors are pretty much technologically all the same.

[Brett Vesely]

Yeah, for the most part. There's differences here and there, but they do the same thing, so.

[John Holmberg]

Okay, so. No, the reason, what I'm asking is one doesn't do something. I was like, oh, we've got to ban that.

[Brett Vesely]

No, no, no, no, no.

[John Holmberg]

They just. It's just how they're distributed. Has to be very. Okay, I didn't know that. That's interesting. Well, thank you.

[Brett Vesely]

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[John Holmberg]

Cannot figure that thing out at all.

[Brett Vesely]

Byron will help you out.

[John Holmberg]

The strongest spring in the world. Tigger. Didn't bounce like this thing throws bullets back at.

[Brady]

I think.

[John Holmberg]

I don't think the gun will shoot the bullet as fast as the magazine fires it out. When I try to load it, just shoving them in there with my thumb, I'm like, I'm going to smash this bullet before I get it. And it goes down there like, got it. Then to put the second one in there. It's the world's most like, stubborn PEZ dispenser. It just shoots it. I'm like, well, that bullet's somewhere under the bed. I'm never going to see that again. Cat comes out with a bullet in its mouth. Like, I'm sorry. They're fired all over the place anyway. They'll explain stuff like that for dumb people like me. Or to Brett, who likes this kind of stuff and does, like, looks into things. I understand guns. I don't understand all the rules and stuff. That's why I get nervous about. They can help you out with all that stuff and then some MMP guns. 12th street and Indian School inside Mo Money Pond. Brady. Ready?

[Brady]

Ready.

[John Holmberg]

Let's start here. Dear Brady, I work overnights at a retail store, and in our crew there's an older white lady who constantly complains that everyone should speak English. Keep in mind, our crew consists of 13 to 18 people, all Mexican, two black guys and the older white lady that I just mentioned. The shift leads always have the crew meetings in Spanish and then they say it in English, but it seems to bother her. Let's call her Mildred. To the point where she yells out in the meeting, speak English. You're in America.

[Brady]

She's talking to the black guys when.

[John Holmberg]

She'S mad at the brothers. Yeah, what it is, cuz Stuart, is I don't speak chive. Now I get along with her just fine. I thought she was an irritable person, but one day she kept complaining about, quote, Mexicans ruining our country, taking our jobs, lazy criminals, so forth, so on. And I told her something along the lines of, only racist people obsess about race. It's a great phrase, Eddie. Good one. She lost it on me. Called me an a hole racist myself, even though I'm Mexican. You can still be a racist and Mexican. I've seen it. She said she'll say something whether we like it or not. She's not afraid anymore. I don't know if I should say something to a. To an HR lady or not. What would Brady do in regards of dealing with this potential wildly racist coworker? Eddie?

[Brady]

I mean, the only thing to do is if there's an HR or something played. I'm. I'm uncomfortable with this situation here, but it sounds like they had their little talk and he knows where she stands. You know, I. It's funny. You immediately, you know, you come across a person similar to that before. Like, I can't believe this. Why do we have to do this? And right in Spanish. Can't we just do it in English? I'll say this because I. I went to a church before, years ago, that they would do it both in English and Spanish.

[John Holmberg]

Well, just invite me to the English one.

[Brady]

It was double. They doubled it. And then they finally decided, let's do them separate.

[John Holmberg]

Right? That's dumb. You're wasting. Half of everyone's time is being wasted. Yeah, Mexicans and whites or whoever, English speaking. You're wasting everybody's time.

[Brady]

But I don't. I don't think there's. And the only way to fix it is either.

[John Holmberg]

I think the.

[Brady]

Another job.

[John Holmberg]

No, the better way to fix it.

[Brady]

It's out.

[John Holmberg]

Go over and talk to the other Mexicans, see if one of them will tell. That way you don't get the rat tag. But you're like, somebody's gonna do something. You should hear and just start lying. You should hear what she says about you guys, like, when you're not listening to her. I mean, the stuff she says out loud is terrible. I mean, she's. I think she's. We got a problem in our hands and she especially hates. And then pick, like the weakest one and say, especially hates you. I think she might attack you and then have that guy. I think you should tell hr, like, you. There's threats. You think? I'm like, I'm pretty sure of it. And then have him go to hr. But you got to make sure that the guy's got documents and stuff, too, because otherwise he's.

[Brady]

But does it ma. Does it matter on that factor on the hr? Because isn't the. Isn't the complaint anonymous to begin with?

[John Holmberg]

That's a good point.

[Brady]

I don't know. Never tell you. Oh, this person complains. Only 13 days unless it was a personal.

[John Holmberg]

Well, you try to get a. He's trying to get a bunch of people to write an anonymous letter, but.

[Brady]

I think going to HR is. Is the route to go.

[John Holmberg]

Sign Chris Valenzuela. What if she's hr?

[Brett Vesely]

They take her to a Coldplay concert.

[John Holmberg]

That's right. You molest her at a Coldplay concert and get her out. That's the best way to. You know what? Start having an affair with her. That's a good idea, Brett. Sleep with the racist, take some pictures and go, she's molesting me out on her ass.

[Brady]

If she's hr, encourage her to do social media and just a matter of time before the posts come out.

[John Holmberg]

That's a good point. That's a tough one. You got a racist co worker who laughs at everything racist or even remotely close to being racist, and you just don't know who to tell.

[Brett Vesely]

The hell's everybody looking at me for? Hell's wrong with you guys?

[John Holmberg]

Yeah, you wouldn't rat on her. You'd get somebody else to do it. Right? You manipulate. You manipulate. I wouldn't rat on her either, because if it fails, then you're. Then you've. Now you've lit a racist on fire.

[Brady]

Although she did kind of go after him a little bit.

[John Holmberg]

I got an idea. You know, this is like that moment in life serial. Like, let's get Mikey. You'll do it. The blacks will do it. Tell the two blacks that she's sniffing around. The N word when they're not around says it a lot. Brother Holmberg's morning sickness.

[Brady]

It's a good point, though.

[John Holmberg]

Wander over.

[Brady]

He's. He's hearing it from the Hispanic side.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah, just go over.

[Brady]

Hey, how is her views on the. The two brothers?

[John Holmberg]

Can I talk to you for a second, homie? Yeah. What's going on? Edgar. Edgar. That's his name. Hey, Mildred says the N word quite a bit, man. I don't know. I just want to let you guys know. I don't want you to get caught off guard, you know? But I'm hearing her say it a lot. You might hear it. Not sure you're going to be happy with that. She's rough on us, too. But N word. And then go, later, player. And then put that weird cigar in your mouth and ride your bike back to your desk. And they'll be like Edgar just said, Mildred using the N word.

[Brady]

Nuclear?

[John Holmberg]

No, no, the other one may. And then they'll. Maybe they'll. They'll handle it. Heard you using the N word, huh? And either Mildred gets fired or she ends up in a blacked.com video. And either way, we've taken care of Mildred. Tell the blacks if I hear her say the N word one more time, I might have to take matters into my own little tiny hands. We'll handle this right now, Edgar. Thank you. What did you do?

[Brady]

Did you.

[John Holmberg]

Did you fix it, Edgar? I told the black guys they're gonna handle this. None of us can tell because they'll ask for papers. That might be why they're just like, deal with Mildred. We don't need ice rolling in here all masked up. Black guys will handle it. Good luck, Edgar. This one says, he said, I tried to keep this short, but I can't. Been married for 27 years as of a couple weeks ago. Last couple years have not been good. Living mostly out of the house since the first of the year. I do have places to go, kind of in seeing a girl in that last two months or so used to be a dancer and cheerleader for an NBA team. She's younger than me by 10 years. She's very pretty and a lot of fun. We always have a great time. And I don't have to wine or a diner much, just drinks here and there. Problem is, she won't let me bang her because the whole marriage thing, I'm guessing. Also, there are days in a row and I can't get in touch with her. She says she's been busy. Then she's back on the radar and responsive. She says I need to get through some things. My wife and son and we go out for our annual California trip, couple weeks every July. A couple weeks ago, my wife serves me divorce papers at my work. So I'm like, eff it. And ask the girl if she wants to go to San Diego with me. Oh, my God, this guy's in trouble already. She's all in. We start planning it and I'm thinking maybe this is a thing with her and it's finally gonna happen. A couple days before, though, we're supposed to leave, she disappears again. And suddenly she says she can't go because of work. So I say effort again, last minute. Ask the ex wife to Be if she wants to go to San Diego and tell her we can just hang out. So she says, yeah, let's do that. As long as there's no sex and stuff. So she decides to go. And things are okay till the fourth day when I get copied on an email from her attorney saying that my work and personal bank are being subpoenaed. So the wife and I have a not so great conversation on vacation. She gets pissed, packs up all of her stuff and leaves. Coming home. So I think. So I'm solo in San Diego, actually having a great time. I have some friends out here, so I'm staying. Brady, should I pursue the new girl? She's the one who started this whole thing. I like her, but some other dude or something going on. I don't know. She claims she was married to an NBA player back in the day. Well, that's why she doesn't want to have sex with you. Yeah. She can't expose that boner garage beast machine. Hello. I still love the wife, but she's crazy. I don't think I could live with her anymore full time after being on my own for six months. Life is easy without her. But I've been having tons of fun. Divorce gonna cost me a fortune. Should I run as fast as I can from both? Pick one. You do it. Signed the F guy. Sorry for how long that was.

[Brady]

I would say get finished with the. The current marriage.

[John Holmberg]

Get clear of everything.

[Brady]

Clear that before you even look at going into another.

[John Holmberg]

Don't start swinging on the two vines at once because it's going to cost you twice as much. You think.

[Brady]

And on the other side of it is if, you know. He says still loves her.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah.

[Brady]

I don't know. I. I always feel like, man, if you feel like you've given it 100 that you're doing, you know, given that relationship, it. It's all. It's just not happening. Then out. But if you don't feel that way.

[John Holmberg]

But he does also feel. I'm sure reading this, he doesn't want to go through the losing of all the stuff.

[Brady]

Yeah, that's a huge part. The other thing is, you know, it's. It's. It's on him a little bit. It's hard. You know, you can understand how it happens. But you. You tasted a little bit of the other side.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah. Started having fun with somebody else. But you were probably being more fun yourself. Right.

[Brady]

And that can blur things right now. But just know.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah.

[Brady]

Like if it's going to be done because I've had A couple people I know that went around. It's like, it's expensive. That what I have learned at least hearing from other people like a guy like, well, that's a tight. Titus or whoever that drug it on for me.

[John Holmberg]

Didn't drag anything on. She did.

[Brady]

She did.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah.

[Brady]

If you can just get it done.

[John Holmberg]

Well that's. That's the ultimate. But yeah, but like, yeah, you're probably right. Clear the, clear the decks of everything and then start over somewhere else.

[Brady]

But I'll leave it at that.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah. This all stinks. And I'm telling you, tolerate the wife. Keep your stuff. Just keep your stuff.

[Brady]

And there's a lot of people that do that.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah, tons of them. Maybe there's that.

[Brady]

The problem is you want to. How do you, you know, how do you find the happy medium on that? Because you're still wanting to have that fun.

[John Holmberg]

Jason emails and says asshole deserves every bad thing that happens to him. And I don't know if he's talking about this guy in the email or the guy, the CEO. He's a douche, cheater, douche. Again, we only know this little situation if it's the email you're talking about. He actually started that after they'd separated. The CEO, we don't know. His whole story looks bad, but he doesn't deserve everything that's happening to him.

[Brady]

It seems like there's more people that are staying in it. Well, they're financial reason, sure.

[John Holmberg]

But there's also the, you know, you gotta kinda recognize your world. Where are you? Do you wanna stay with this person? Do they wanna stay with you? What are you doing? This poor bastard. But you haven't even boned the other one.

[Brady]

It sounds like she's crazier than.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah, she's worse than the other one. She's just seeing if you'll leave for her and she's going to disappear. It's a game to her.

[Brady]

And odds are you probably there's a chance you could be love bombing a little bit like, okay, I can save you a good time.

[John Holmberg]

Let's go for sure. Boy, oh boy. The F guy, man. That's enough. Some real problems today. Racism. And much like the first story I'm going to tell the F guy, I'm going to tell the F guy. Much like I, you know, mentioned in the first story. Get a couple of black guys in there. They'll handle this. They'll take care of both those ladies ways. You can't do it. You got HR problems. Lean on Tyrone. Got troubles with a lady. Same thing. They'll take care of it, Officer Blaze. Yeah, that's right. Rico will handle it. And then she'll realize how good she had it with you.

[Brett Vesely]

Oh, yeah.

[John Holmberg]

So at least when you were done with her, she could still go to the mall. Two days later, after Rico, she's got a. She's still in traction. You think you're the F'd guy? There you go. That's interesting. You're also very interesting. There you go. That's it. That's what Brady did. It's 98 Arizona's most powerful, powerful rock radio station.