07-22-25 - Toledo Back From His Gay Porn Spam BDay Weekend In LA And John's Love Of Dolphin Shorts - Video Of WNBA Players Being Denied Entry To Club Is Amusing - Malcolm Jamal Warner's Drowning Death Has Us Shook A Bit

Summary

Holmberg's Morning Sickness - Arizona: July 22, 2025 Episode Summary

Hosted by John Holmberg with Brady Bogen, Bret Vesely, and Dick Toledo

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1. Toledo’s Birthday Weekend in Los Angeles

The episode kicks off with John Holmberg recounting his friend Dick Toledo's unconventional birthday weekend in Los Angeles. Toledo celebrated by engaging in activities that John describes humorously as "staring at dicks on his phone," leading to some unexpected social interactions.

• John Holmberg [01:15]: "Big Dick Toledo from his big birthday weekend celebration, staring at dicks on his phone for most of his birthday, which I still loved every second of being part of it."

Toledo shared an amusing anecdote about an Asian family observing him as he interacted with explicit content on his phone.

• Dick Toledo [14:02]: "But we in the W. Got done at the All Star game, so, like."

John reminisces about sending embarrassing photos to friends, which included oversized genital images intended as birthday presents. This led to unexpected algorithmic searches for explicit content on his phone, adding to the weekend's chaos.

• John Holmberg [02:40]: "My algorithm searched out hardcore gay sex money shot and I... So for the next few times that I would start typing something or my pornhub changed."

The conversation highlights the humorous yet awkward situations that arose from Toledo's attempts to make his birthday memorable, culminating in Toledo having to endure unwanted attention.

• John Holmberg [03:08]: "But it was all worth it because Toledo had to watch those balloons float. He hates those balloons."

2. Nostalgia and John’s Love of Dolphin Shorts

Transitioning from adult-themed humor, John delves into a nostalgic discussion about fashion from the mid-1980s, specifically "dolphin shorts." These shorts were notorious for their design, which made wearers appear less modest.

• John Holmberg [05:03]: "When dolphin shorts were a thing. Oh. Oh. The whole world collapsed at my house. I remember dolphin shorts. They were like... they're small girls' asses. Just hang out."

John shares personal anecdotes about his family's reactions to his sister wearing these revealing shorts, highlighting generational differences in perceptions of modesty and fashion.

• John Holmberg [05:50]: "He hated that the girl's ass was hanging out and all her friends... like, you have to cover up that ass."

The hosts reminisce about the era's fashion trends, the reactions from their parents, and the humorous situations that ensued when these shorts were worn in public settings like the mall.

3. Amusing Video: WNBA Players Denied Club Entry

A significant portion of the episode focuses on a viral video that has been circulating online. The video features women, purportedly WNBA players, attempting to gain entry to a club after an All-Star game. Their efforts are thwarted by the bouncer, leading to a mix of frustration and amusement among the hosts.

• John Holmberg [12:32]: "The highlights are hilarious. We in the W... It's the fastest way to not get through a line."

The hosts dissect the interactions in the video, critiquing the women's approach and the bouncer's responses. They humorously mock the notion that simply being WNBA players should grant them easier access to exclusive venues.

• John Holmberg [14:18]: "They should not be waiting in no line. That's why nobody likes your league."

Dick Toledo adds to the discussion by imitating the bouncer's lines and expressing disbelief over the women's persistent attempts to bypass the line.

• Dick Toledo [14:10]: "But we in the W. And we done at the All Star game, so... we shouldn't be waiting in no line."

The conversation highlights the absurdity of entitlement and the comedic failures of the players' attempts to leverage their status for preferential treatment.

4. Shocking News: Malcolm Jamal Warner’s Drowning Death

Towards the end of the episode, the hosts shift to a somber tone as they discuss the shocking news of Malcolm Jamal Warner's unexpected death by drowning. Warner, known for his role as Theo Huxtable on The Cosby Show, had been a beloved figure since the 1980s.

• John Holmberg [17:16]: "And then he said, all right, what's the under... he drowned has us shook a bit."

John expresses his disbelief and sadness over Warner's passing, reflecting on their shared history and the impact of his death on fans.

• John Holmberg [25:26]: "We lost Theo, for crying out. Part of my childhood... it's an awful thing."

The discussion touches on the unpredictability of such tragedies, especially involving individuals who were once vibrant public figures but had since faded from the spotlight.

• John Holmberg [26:18]: "He was not a draw by any means. So it was kind of just a child star that... the next time we hear from you, you as a... is when you die."

The hosts pay tribute to Warner's contributions to television and lament the fact that his death marks the only significant recent news about him, underscoring the fleeting nature of fame and legacy.

5. Additional Discussions and Anecdotes

Throughout the episode, the hosts engage in various tangential conversations, intertwining personal stories, humorous remarks, and light-hearted banter. Topics include:

• Pool Safety and Drowning Fears: An extended dialogue about the dangers of drowning, personal experiences with pools, and the emotional impact of sudden tragedies.

  • John Holmberg [28:12]: "I struggle with adult drowning because we take the pools in Phoenix especially, so kind of... I don't think of drowning ever."

  • Brady Bogen [30:11]: "I'm getting... Eating the most poor in a row. Turn my mic back on."

• Memories of the 1980s and Pop Culture: The hosts reminisce about iconic movies like the Jaws series, reflecting on the lasting impressions these films had during their youth.

  • John Holmberg [35:35]: "They broke in... We lost Theo, for crying out. Part of my childhood."

• Funny Incidents with Pets: A humorous recounting of an incident involving a neighbor's bulldog getting stuck in John's pool, blending humor with a lesson on responsible pet ownership.

  • John Holmberg [32:34]: "But he did it too... All right, get in. He had no reaction."

Conclusion

The July 22, 2025, episode of Holmberg's Morning Sickness offers a blend of humor, nostalgia, and poignant moments. From celebrating friendship and reminiscing about past fashions to dissecting viral videos and mourning the loss of a cherished actor, the hosts deliver an engaging and multifaceted discussion. Notable for its candid conversations and dynamic interactions, the episode ensures that both regular listeners and newcomers find content that resonates and entertains.

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Notable Quotes:

• John Holmberg [01:15]: "Big Dick Toledo from his big birthday weekend celebration, staring at dicks on his phone for most of his birthday, which I still loved every second of being part of it."

• Dick Toledo [14:02]: "But we in the W. Got done at the All Star game, so, like."

• John Holmberg [05:03]: "When dolphin shorts were a thing... they're small girls' asses. Just hang out."

• John Holmberg [17:16]: "And then he said, all right, what's the under... he drowned has us shook a bit."

• John Holmberg [25:26]: "We lost Theo, for crying out. Part of my childhood... it's an awful thing."

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Transcript

[Brady]

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[John Holberg]

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[John Holberg]

You thought that was funny? You were laughing like a hyena when he said it.

[Big Dick Toledo]

What the hell is wrong with you?

[John Holberg]

Good morning everybody. Hello there. Welcome to Tuesday. It is 5:45 this the morning sickness. My name's John. There's Brady, there's Brett. There's big Dick Toledo from his big birthday weekend celebration, staring at dicks on his phone for most of his birthday, which I still loved every second of being part of. He said that there was an Asian family breathing over his shoulder when the daisy chain showed up, which I think is my favorite picture of all outside of Grady. Fired one over of the morning show host from Katie KB and then you put in the afternoon. Yes. So.

[Brady]

Well, you wanted to make it super gay.

[John Holberg]

You wanted to be as gay as possible.

[Brady]

The family behind him were just shocked that it wasn't pixelated.

[John Holberg]

If you can't send over embarrassing weird photos onto somebody's phone making them uncomfortable with their sexuality and not include Katie KB well I don't know what you're doing.

[Brady]

What is your algorithm on your phone?

[John Holberg]

Like it's been strange. I'm not going to lie.

[Brett]

Like did you send one to Lovetz?

[John Holberg]

I sent a couple to Lovet. I claim they were me. He doesn't like that cuz he's not sure. I send giant wiener pictures to love. It's for his birthday. But yeah, the best thing about it.

[Unknown]

Is at least it's not on my algorithm. All they showed up or as pictures.

[John Holberg]

I just did screenshots. Yeah, but my algorithm searched out hardcore gay sex money shot and I. And then so my. For the next few times that I would start typing something or my pornhub changed. I'll tell you that. You go to pornhub and there was a couple of what are those dudes doing here? So. But it was all worth it because Toledo had to watch those balloons float. He hates those balloons.

[Brady]

Like I said, I didn't even realize it did that. I forgot about it when the balloons. Balloons went.

[John Holberg]

It's not suspect. What are you, Jesse Waters? He says that men don't wish each other happy birthday. Jesse Waters says that. And I'm like, toledo, Toledo is the opposite of Jesse. You and Jesse Waters are on the same page when it comes to that. I find that to be a hysterical overreach. But you hating the balloons enough to tell Brett your birthday wish wasn't sufficient because it was gay. It turned into this. And it will never ever be different now. My birthday is Friday. Here we go. I encourage the balloons boys, but if you guys want to go down that road and sending me pictures, balloons and cranks, it's gonna be on your dorks and penetration.

[Unknown]

Japanese family on the beach behind me. And I think the. The young boy saw it. I don't know if he noticed it wasn't pixelated.

[John Holberg]

He probably passed out. Yeah.

[Unknown]

Yeah, probably.

[John Holberg]

Japanese boy sees all those dicks. He's like, watch that.

[Unknown]

There was a group of like 14 teenage girls off to the left of us, and there are four moms sitting there. And I kept thinking about Brady because one of the moms, they were down, you know, playing in the water. One of the moms kept sh. And whistling because she wasn't getting her attention.

[John Holberg]

Get your ass covered. Cover your ass. There's a girl in the gastonks.

[Unknown]

Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. So she's like, pull it out.

[John Holberg]

Yeah.

[Unknown]

And then I just kept thinking Brady with Kirby and what's her name at the Caitlyn.

[John Holberg]

Hey, Caitlyn, cover up that ass. Could you imagine? Brady was the. My daughters are whoring around. Enough. Enough with the asses.

[Brett]

Girls.

[John Holberg]

Kirby, cover that ass. Katelyn, how's your day going? Well, he's the one who drug her across state lines. I'm not the weirdo don't make me the weirdo. I didn't take some neighbor kid over to the beach for a while. Covered ass gets over here and sits down. Put that ass in the sand.

[Unknown]

That's what I'm talking.

[John Holberg]

Plant it. Plant that ass. Yeah, it is weird. My dad wouldn't make it. With what girls do. I. When dolphin shorts were a thing. Oh. Oh. The whole world collapsed at my house. I remember dolphin shorts. They were like. Oh yeah, they're a small girl's asses. Just hang out.

[Unknown]

And they had the little kind of slit on the side.

[John Holberg]

Yeah, the side went up a little bit. So it was up to the hip. And then the bottom of the shorts. This was in the mid-80s. The bottom of the shorts was. Your ass was designed to. And shorts too. Your ass was designed to come out of the bottom a little bit. And my dad. I remember my sister putting a pair of those on and leaving. See ya. Where the hell you're going.

[Unknown]

The mall, dad.

[John Holberg]

Jeez. Was so typical. You are not.

[Unknown]

That's it.

[John Holberg]

Yeah, Those are good ones. Those were. Those weren't new current. Yeah, those were the ones that Brett's showing right now. Are those. Might as well be on nuns.

[Brady]

Those are nice.

[John Holberg]

They look great on the models. But most people can't wear those.

[Brady]

Now here's the. The old school.

[John Holberg]

But the old school ones would ride up. Your ass was designed to come out of the box. Oh man. And she had those red, white striped ones. And oh, I thought the world was going to come to an end. I thought my dad was. I thought that was. He was going to murder her. And that just started the dominoes to fall where she started bringing weirdos back to the house and stuff like that.

[Unknown]

I'll show you.

[John Holberg]

That's it. Yeah. And he's like, you're going to walk around with your ass out like that. You better change your last name because you don't live here anymore. He hated the idea. It's disgusting. Her ass is hanging out and all her friends. Wait a minute. That one girl's ass hanging out is not so bad. The vacuum salesman. Yeah, the vacuum salesman. If the vacuum salesman walked in in a thong, my dad would have been fine with it.

[Unknown]

Stephanie Moore ever wear them at your house?

[John Holberg]

They were in a pervert. They were in like 8th or 9th grade back then. She was about to be. She was about to be a supermodel. She had a 42 year old boyfriend. Stephanie Seymour, 8th grade. Yeah. That's the guy that flew her off to Paris. Yeah. In my kitchen. Is his name Epstein? Two times Stephanie Seymour. Two times. She was in my kitchen. Called me cute.

[Brett]

Oh, you wore the same outfit?

[John Holberg]

I did twice. So. Wolf howling at the. I told you that when Stephanie Seymour was there. And I had my wolf howling at the moon. My maroon op shorts and socks up to my knees. And she goes, your brother's so cute. Who's that? I remember where she was sitting.

[Brady]

Were you Brad in the bathroom after that?

[John Holberg]

I wasn't doing that yet. I was only 8 or 9. 8. I wasn't quite tugging me Seymour though.

[Brady]

I mean.

[John Holberg]

You know what? I think my. My little. I think my little bald wiener was kind of like pull me. I take it. What is that noise coming out of that. That kid's midsection? Pull me. Now she. And two times. I'll never forget that. She was just. And I didn't. You know. You didn't. It wasn't Stephanie Seymour yet. And still I think I had the same reaction.

[Unknown]

Potential.

[John Holberg]

Oh, the potential. It was a known factor. She was going. It was already known in this. In the city of Poway. And I just found this out a little while ago. That that was her for sure. That was for sure. And I'm like we knew like that she was. I didn't know that that was her. I remember that girl.

[Unknown]

So your sister and her went to the same school?

[John Holberg]

Yep. Twin Peaks High School. Right next to Sierra Bonita Elementary School which is where I went to school. And at Sierra Bonita we would all walk together. I did not know that was her until much later in life. And then I'm like, that was her. Like it. Now it's like, oh my God. And she thought it was adorable. I just remember the hottest girl I've ever seen in my life. And I was kind of still like I'm interested but nobody needs to know this age. And then. And boy. Every time it's the mom, can my friends come over? Is the one. Cuz that one Stephanie girl gonna be here. Yeah. Be right back. And I go in the hamper and dig out that outfit. It didn't matter if it was clean or not. Hey. Just fooling around in the wolf's howling at the moon shirt. Just chick stick the wolf howling at the moon. I look like an Irish tourist that whose clothes got lost on the boat over. Got these at the U Totem. Got some clothes over at the U Totem. God, she was amazing. So yeah. But I'm pretty sure my dad was all right with that too. Like Stephanie Seymour But 42 year old guy was manager no. Out now. Out loud. Boyfriend. She was 14 and swept her off her feet. Took her off to Paris. Hey, it worked, dude. Got her like she was a Parisian model. Within a year, she met Axl Rose, and then she married Axl Rose. And that was when I found out that. That my sister was friends with her. I just didn't realize that Stephanie Seymour. I'll tell you what. Right there in my kitchen. My dad would have toted her across state lines, that's for sure.

[Unknown]

Hey, Danny, you're allowed to have one.

[John Holberg]

Friend on the trip.

[Unknown]

I'll take Tiffany.

[John Holberg]

No. Huh? Just pick again. Leticia. Leticia. No.

[Unknown]

Okay, I try again.

[John Holberg]

Sarah. No. Close. Stephanie. Yeah, she can go. Let's do this. Let's get her in the car and let's drive her somewhere good. Where there's beaches. And he did over right over there to the beach. I'm sure they. My dad was driving them all over, and I didn't realize it.

[Unknown]

I'll take you. I'll take you.

[John Holberg]

My dad was always really nice to my sister's friends when the hot ones were over.

[Unknown]

You girls want some beer? Oh, my God, your dad's so cool.

[John Holberg]

You've not met my father. That is not him. An alien took over that body. And he's suddenly. He's outside swimming.

[Brady]

They start benching right there, too.

[John Holberg]

Oh, he work. Worked out. When they were there, he would go in his room and grab the weights underneath and puff up a little bit. He would do that every time. Like, he'd walk around like, a. And one time, I remember. Oh, this is a great one. One time, I remember he had these blue shorts. They were way too tight. We hated swimming with him as a family in these shorts. I was like, come on. I could see every line and vain and I don't know what's going on. These shorts, they were light blue. And I remember one. I didn't know what was going on. My dad never initiated swimming. He never was, like, going out to the pool. Bye. Like he'd never occasionally announced it. Yeah. The family is out there, and he might wander out and hop in. But he was never out there by himself. One day, he comes out, he's got the towel over his shoulder, moving through the house in his little ugly blue shorts like, oh, dad, the shorts. What? Like, they're too tight. Oh, are you going swimming? Yep.

[Brett]

Really?

[John Holberg]

Okay. Not ten minutes later, my sister rolls with, like, nine of her friends, and they're all in their bikinis and stuff, and they just run right to the back.

[Unknown]

Oh, I was Using the pool.

[John Holberg]

I think he had half a plumpy. Like he was trying to show it off.

[Unknown]

Sorry, girls.

[John Holberg]

Let me get it. My dad was in. He was a big dude, so he's like all the girls, like, oh, my.

[Unknown]

God, your dad's huge.

[Brady]

Yeah.

[John Holberg]

I'll get out of your way, ladies. Excuse me, weirdo. And then I'd come out with my stuff on. I want to go swimming with dad, too. Get out of here, you idiot. You sea blocking moron.

[Unknown]

On.

[John Holberg]

It's a different time. The 80s.

[Brett]

What are you doing?

[Brady]

You don't like them anyway.

[John Holberg]

Yeah, you're not into them. You're probably here to look at me. Creepy little gay. Not gay. Yeah, right. Yet. Hol's morning sickness. Holg's morning sickness. It's. I had the happiest day ever yesterday for one reason, one reason only. World Star. The video that is circulating of the girls after the WNBA game trying to get into a club, shouting out, we in the W. We just got done with the All Star game. The guy funko, I don't care. Let's go. Get out. And then she's like, we shouldn't even been waiting in this line. He goes, get in the back of line. You're done. And it is. It's tragic how they try to use the W. We in the W. And the guy's like, I don't even know what that is. And he makes him get back in line. And then he. And then. And then somebody says, let him in. Whatever. Let him in. And then they start going in. Another guy goes, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Because they're all hideous. They're all just awful.

[Brady]

So it wasn't Sophie Cunningham trying to get.

[John Holberg]

No, Sophie was already in there. I'm sure Sophie doesn't have to scream, I'm in the W. This is here. Here it is right here. Oh, hold on. Let's sound off.

[Big Dick Toledo]

Yo, what other one? Hey, boss man, y' all got a.

[John Holberg]

Section, yo, it's down here. That is.

[Big Dick Toledo]

No, but we. Anyway, so what sex is at.

[John Holberg]

Cops. The cops are like, get in the back of the line.

[Big Dick Toledo]

But we in the W. And so we done at the allstar game.

[John Holberg]

So, like, we just got done with the allstar game. We in the W. And then guys, like, he just does the finger spin. Get, get, get, get, get. Get away from the front of the line. One of them looks really good. The rest of them are hideous.

[Brady]

Is that this one?

[John Holberg]

What do you got? Yep, that's it. Yeah, that's the one. And she starts Going. And we in the. We in the W. And. And the guy's like, move it, let's go. And they let her in. Either we go somewhere else. He's like, I don't care.

[Brady]

Title nine's down the road.

[John Holberg]

Yeah. He's like, I don't care where you go.

[Big Dick Toledo]

Well, we in a W. Got done at the All Star game, so, like.

[John Holberg]

Sorry, we don't need.

[Big Dick Toledo]

I ain't even trying to be funny. But we should not be waiting in no line.

[John Holberg]

They shouldn't be in line. That's why nobody, like, likes your league.

[Brady]

Well, they're not used to lines. Nobody ever waits in line getting into wnba.

[John Holberg]

They have no idea what lines are. There's never been a line at the WNBA game.

[Unknown]

I know, I need to count.

[John Holberg]

I need to go.

[Big Dick Toledo]

I don't.

[John Holberg]

Then they start going in and the guy's like. He sees a couple of them and he's like, never mind. And he spins them right out. Oh, they keep cussing. I hate that part. Yeah, he spins them right out. They start going in, back out. They start going in. And then he sees what he's letting into this club and he's like, oh, no, no, no, no, They're. And then the best part is that the ugliest mean leader, the little pink haired ugly leader, he lets a couple of them in. Like, that one's not bad.

[Brady]

The one in the black.

[John Holberg]

The one in the black, she's okay. The rest of them are hideous and they're not even dressed nice. And that one kind of goes forward and the dude lets her in. And then the pink haired ugly one goes. This my whole crew, they all with me. And that's when he goes, yeah, yeah, yeah. Everybody out, everybody out. And he turns them back around. It is hilarious. We in the W is. We shouldn't be waiting in no line. What are you talking about? The W is no golden ticket into anything.

[Brett]

Finished up our game.

[John Holberg]

We just got done at the All Star Game. For what? What are you talking about? The W. Okay, that's hilarious, lady. I don't know if there's a high school tournament in town. I don't. I don't think you're allowed it. I watched that video. That would be like 801 times now that I've seen it with you. I cannot get enough. We shouldn't be waiting of that arrogant nonsense lead, pretending it deserves stuff. Not. Not ever asking to earn a thing. Not everyone stepping up, saying we have to earn our way through ever. Not being cordial, not being nice. We got that email from that guy a long time ago, he's at the chain Smokers concert. And his girlfriend turned around and told the other people that he got tickets through his mom who works with, you know, the arena. They gave him a suite. And then he said, ended into busting into that suite with these little dudes with hoods on that were mean. Started screaming and, like. And his girlfriend turned around and said, guys, you're at the Chain Smokers. You want to calm down a little? And he said, and the leader of them, the meanest one, came over and started to want to fight. And he's like, I gotta beat this dude up. This guy is literally bowing up to my girlfriend. And he goes. And I realized right there it was Diana Taurasi.

[Brady]

That's an honest mistake.

[John Holberg]

And then he. His mother wrote a letter saying, you know, the suite that we had was infiltrated by these awful WNBA people. And the WNBA wrote him a letter apologizing and offered them season tickets as an apology. That is the worst thing you could have offered me. Like, the last thing I want.

[Brady]

Now I'm suing.

[John Holberg]

Yeah, now, now, now. I'm calling lawyers.

[Brady]

Now it's on.

[John Holberg]

Now I've been disrespected. This is not how our players behave. Yes, it is. We in the W. Is. Nobody's ever said that you can end up in a Russian jail. You start screaming, I don't care. What? What are you in the W? The W. What are you talking. Do you work for a. For a radio station east of the Mississippi? What's the W? We in the derby, Brady. I'm gonna start saying that. Every time there's a line, I'm like, we gotta get it. We in the W. And the W. Essentially, she said, we're in the woman, which probably later that night.

[Brady]

Well, I think that's probably true.

[John Holberg]

Hilarious. I can't get enough of it. I love how often that league, ironically, just itself right in the butt, it just can't stop banging itself into oblivion.

[Brett]

I saw some of the game highlights.

[John Holberg]

There weren't any. Brady, you saw some of the game clips. Did you see the myriad of missed layups with no defense? They chose not to play defense.

[Brett]

My opinion. Those are highlights.

[John Holberg]

Well. Oh, for us. For our entertainment's sake. Yes. The comedy highlights were definitely there. W highlights. We in the W. All I'm gonna say from now on, you're gonna have to get in the back of line, Sir. It's a 30 minute wait for a table. What? What? What's wrong with you? I'm in the W. That's a big lesbian. Yeah. The highlights are hilarious. And just they decided to put a four point shot on the court, which is about five feet behind the actual three point line. Not. None of these bitches can even come close. Like they're just heaving it as missing by forever airballs in the All Star game. It doesn't happen. But like banging into missed layup after. It's hilarious. It is a. It's like a Benny. If you sped it up and just put yakety sacks behind it, it would be. It would be the Benny Hill opening. Oh, but Brady, we ain't waiting in no line. We in the W. We in the W. That's the fastest way to not get through a line. Oh, God. We don't all the regular ladies to hear that. Get the out of here.

[Brady]

That's my favorite part. He turns them all around when he sees who they're with.

[John Holberg]

When he's. When the last one goes, they all with me. He's like, oh, Jesus, them too. All right, everybody turn around. I'm sorry, I got. I thought you. You like these two half decent ones or at least with someone else. I was gonna let them through.

[Brett]

We should have to wait in line.

[John Holberg]

Yeah, we shouldn't have to wait in line. And then she says, well, you know what? Forget it. We go somewhere else. The guy's like, okay. You just hear of. You hear an audible. Okay. He didn't want. And they were like tattered T shirts.

[Brady]

Yeah, there was only one that was.

[John Holberg]

One looked like she like.

[Brady]

Like she could get in a club.

[John Holberg]

Like that girl called, we going to the club tonight. All right, go. Okay, I'll get ready. And then she did. And the rest of them showed up up dressed like Brett and me, except for we have the decency not to chop off the sleeves of our shirts like some sort of weirdo. And I. I want to know where they ended up.

[Brady]

Scary is, is we. We look sexier in what we're wearing than they did what they're wearing.

[John Holberg]

I mean, I would so bang you before any of them. First off, you could bang me. I'd be a bottom with you. Because all of their dicks are much bigger. They. And they. The worst part is they had every intention of wandering through there with arrogance and swag. Like people were going to be like, the girls from the W are here. No one at that club was interested because none of them went to the all star game. They were all busy getting ready and looking nice for that night out on the club in Indianapolis. And Nobody knew who they would have been.

[Brett]

Some NBA players happened to be in town. Just walk right through, right by the VIP area.

[John Holberg]

Well, I have it on good authority, and I'm not saying who told me this, that if an NBA player sees WNBA players, they have to join them, I'd quit. It is a thing. Like, they have to acknowledge them. So if, for instance, Steph Curry is walking through the Rah Rah room and a couple of the Mercury players are there and he sees them, he has to go over and be.

[Brett]

Whether or not he knows, though, too.

[John Holberg]

Well, there's a bigger thing. He's like, but you're supposed to. You're supposed to hobnob together as often as possible, as if just talk and shop. Or you're in the same wheel. We. Yeah, the W and the N are the same. I don't think you can call it the N. Are you sure? I'm almost positive that the guys don't run around going, I'm in the end. I'm in the end. Well, Jesus Christ, man. Don't do that. This is my crew. I'm an N. Let him in. He's gonna start calling.

[Brady]

Yeah, the white guy at the front door.

[John Holberg]

Let him in. Let him in. We in the W and. Hilarious. Can I get enough of it? And then yesterday's tragic news again, a fanduel bet I would have lost Bill Cosby. You would have sucked all the money out of me. Well, pardon the pun back. If you'd have guessed back in the 80s, will Bill Cosby be in jail for rape? I'd say no. And then he'd say, all right, what's the under. Over on how many people he raped? I'm like, at most, he would be accused once. That's Bill Cosby. Damn it. I'd have lost that bet. If you asked me, in the year 2000, 2005, will Bill Cosby outlive Malcolm Jamal Warner well into the 2000s? Like, you're out of your mind. That guy's deteriorating in front of our eyes in jail. He's a free man. And he got all the calls yesterday about the death of Theo. Like, I would have never imagined. Like, never imagined. Theo didn't make it. That's crazy. And it was a. It's one of those punches, you know, that. That Theo and I are essentially the same age. He's a couple years older than me, but it's a weird thing to have had seen that guy, you know, my age on TV being Cliff Huxtable's son on the Most popular show in the world and he just dies. And it's. I think it's weirder when celebrities drown. Like when Matthew Perry drowns. Drown. I don't. Some reason. You don't put that on people of a certain age. That drowning is kind of off the table unless they're doing something ridiculous. Matthew Perry in a hot tub. You know, backyard pools, stuff like that. Like, I guess, the ocean. But is there any. Are there any details on how. I didn't see any. I just. He just drowned on a family vacation. But that is so strange that. Yeah. Theo's not there anymore and keeping his.

[Brett]

Wife and daughter really private.

[John Holberg]

Like.

[Brett]

No, he.

[Brady]

I didn't even know he's married, actually.

[John Holberg]

Yeah.

[Brett]

And that's why he said didn't make them want anyone to have anything to do with just one of the private.

[John Holberg]

Yeah. I didn't know. Well, I mean, it's not like we were following Theo around. No, but it's not.

[Brady]

He was cockroach or something, right?

[John Holberg]

Yeah, that's different. It was not like Jeff from dj.

[Brett]

That's kind of hard to do being, you know, a celebrity if you just.

[John Holberg]

I guess it's a celebrity at a certain time. We didn't. We haven't cared about, pardon the pun, Malcolm Jamal Warner since probably like 96.

[Brady]

Was that one show he was in.

[John Holberg]

He's in a. It was in the one on. Oh, I forget what it was. Yeah, yeah. It was a WB show or CW show. Yeah, he was Malcolm and something, but it wasn't aimed at us. You and I were not Cowlings. Huh?

[Brett]

He was AJ Cowlings and the OJ Versus.

[John Holberg]

Yeah, that's right. I forgot about that. But again, that was more just kind of working the suit. AJ Did a lot of the heavy lifting in that one. And just. AC Not AJ ac. Yeah. Morning sickness. Holmberg's morning sickness. AC did all the, you know, know, all you had to do is just say amaz, damn it. And that's it. Because Al, he was. I could have done that job. I don't think I was particularly a good casting, but I could have been Al.

[Brady]

Quite a bit of things afterwards.

[John Holberg]

He did a lot one offs, but just. Yeah, yeah, he was always Theo Community. One offs. He was never on the show.

[Brett]

Appearances.

[John Holberg]

Yeah, he just popped in in. Very likable. Always and stuff like that. Always cool. Was it Malcolm and Eddie? Is that the name of that show?

[Brady]

I think that's right.

[Brett]

Directed episodes of the Cosby show, the Fresh Prince of Bel Air, Sesame Street.

[John Holberg]

Yeah, he was around. I'm not saying he didn't have a job. It's just we stopped caring about Theo as like, oh, Malcolm, Jamal Warner's in it. I'll go. He was not a draw by any means. So it was kind of just a child star that, you know, dicked around the. The industry for a long time, but never was, you know, the superstar. So it's, it's, you know, people are always saying, oh, what? We weren't paying attention to what happened to him. We weren't. Nobody cared. And that's what happens to you when you're a celebrity and celebrities don't realize it. You hit your peak and then you can do a whole bunch of stuff. And if it's not like, astronomically huge, the next time we hear from you, you as a. Is when you die. That's it. Like, you'll have, like, we're sitting here now. Oh, he would. He directed this. Nobody cared about that. He directed an episode of Scrubs. Oh, good. But then the next time he gets mass press will be when he dies. And that's exactly what happened. So people are surprised. He had privacy. Of course we gave it to him. We didn't care.

[Brett]

And how many times I said celebrity death, Say the name and nothing. They show the picture. Oh, I know that.

[John Holberg]

I see. That guy is weird. Weird. That one. That was a weird one to me because that's like. I don't know. I. I struggle with adult drowning because I've. I swim all the time and it's never in my head I'm in that pool. Never in my head of recent.

[Brett]

Like the lady that went to try to rescue their daughter in the water and she got the daughter and she drowned.

[John Holberg]

Was it in a lake or a river or something?

[Brett]

It was. That one was in an ocean.

[John Holberg]

Yeah, that makes sense to me. When there's already peril, somebody's in trouble. Yeah, that.

[Brett]

That's when we had some river rescues, but just.

[John Holberg]

Yeah, those are rescues.

[Brett]

Yeah.

[John Holberg]

Like, just swimming around, having fun, and the next thing you know, ain't making it like, there's. There was no peril. He was the peril. I just. I just. I struggle with, you know, I can see diving into a river where somebody's trying to. You know, there's. Most of the time that is who drowns is the person trying to rescue. You go through those classes and water classes, and they're like, hey, the person who's you're going to go try to save is going to. Is going to push you under a lot more. So, yeah. So I. I don't know. I struggle with adult drowning because we take the pools in Phoenix especially, so kind of. Nah. We take it for granted. We're in it. We hang around. We do our thing. I would have to hit my head so hard in the pool alone, and I just can't imagine it happening. The worst thing that happens in my pool is sometimes those little calcium balls rip my feet apart, and I don't even realize it until I get out. I gotta get that thing scrubbed down. It's been a few years since I've had the pool drained and scrapped. So I got a couple of those little rough patches, and they hurt, and you don't even know it. That's like the. That's sliced, right? Yeah. That's the pool problems. I. I don't think of drowning ever. And maybe I should, but I don't. I'm at the age where I'm like, I. I wouldn't die from drowning. I would die from hitting my head first, and then the second thing that would happen is drowning. I can't just drown. I'm pretty sure of that. I don't put myself in positions to just drown.

[Brett]

Yeah.

[John Holberg]

I don't get in rushing water. The ocean. And I'm good in the ocean up here. About the hips.

[Brett]

The nightmares of people getting caught in, like, under toes.

[John Holberg]

Sure. Because they're out. They're out in a quarter mile.

[Brett]

Out.

[John Holberg]

That's. You're out in the thick thing. I'm not doing that. I get in the ocean, I go until there's. I'm not swimming in it. I stand in it and my feet don't touch. I start moving back towards the other side.

[Brett]

Yeah.

[John Holberg]

I don't do that. I walk the other way. That's dumb. Doing great, Brett.

[Brady]

I. I'm getting.

[John Holberg]

I know. You are.

[Brady]

Eating the most poor in a row. Turn my mic back on.

[John Holberg]

Just saying it is a. Yeah. I just find it. I just don't. I just don't. Matthew Perry. I'm like, oh, he's on drugs. He didn't drown. People say he drowned. He died of a drug problem. Yeah. The water was just there. Babies. That makes sense if you got kids. I wouldn't have a pool if I had kids. That would scare me to death.

[Brady]

We were talking about this the other day. The crazy part is, like, growing. Like, when we were growing up, it didn't seem like you heard about as many drown. Like, none of our friends had pool fences. Like, none of them did.

[John Holberg]

No.

[Brady]

And you never really heard. I mean, I know they Were there. Don't get me wrong, but you never really heard about the drownings like you do nowadays.

[John Holberg]

No, it's weird. I don't know if that's because the news gets mad about it louder, but if it happened, it. You're right. Growing up here when it did happen. Oh, my God, that's so rare.

[Brady]

Now it's like every other day on the news. It's like, oh, that sucks.

[John Holberg]

Yeah. And maybe it's because it's our generation and, you know, and now even one but beneath us that has kids, they're so used to having a poor pool. They're like me and they don't think about it.

[Brady]

Yeah, I mean, I. I know one of my friends had a pool fence. Everybody else, nobody had a pool.

[John Holberg]

The only pool fence that it was the worst pool in the neighborhood.

[Brady]

Yeah.

[John Holberg]

Had a pool fence around it. First thing I did when I moved into my house, when I got it, when I, back in 2000, had an ugly ass blue pool fence, I pulled it down, I put a fence. I put one of those nice ones around my current pool. Because the bus, my dog, bus is a bulldog. And all I read was, was careful with these guys. And I remember Ralphie May's bulldog came to my house and sank like a stone. And that's when Ralphie turned to me.

[Unknown]

Daddy gotta do me a favor.

[John Holberg]

Like what?

[Unknown]

My dog's at the bottom of your pool.

[John Holberg]

Like what? And sure enough, there's a dog standing, looking up in the shallow end. He didn't know what. He couldn't walk. He didn't know what he was doing. Doesn't even try, but you can't get him.

[Unknown]

You think, I'm gonna get that dog? You gotta get in to get my dog.

[John Holberg]

And sure enough, you try to lift a 90 pound bulldog out of four and a half, five feet of water. And he's not. Ralphie's dog was cool, but he was not the nicest dog in the world. So he's trying to bite me when he got up to the top step because I'm just, I'm, you know, I'm scooping him up like a forklift. Like, Jesus Christ, that thing's heavy.

[Unknown]

Thank you, Johnny. He can't swim.

[John Holberg]

I'm like, well, thanks for bringing him to the pool party, jackass. Good idea.

[Brett]

How do I hooch?

[John Holberg]

But he did it too.

[Unknown]

Pimp's down at the bottom of the pool.

[John Holberg]

All right, get in. He had no reaction. Ralphie was like, well, my dog's gonna die. If I wasn't outside with him, he'd have just watched that dog bubble. He had no chance. And he was right, Ralphie. Not getting in there and getting underwater.

[Unknown]

Try to do me a favor.

[John Holberg]

It was so calm.

[Unknown]

My dog's down there at the bottom of your pool. You want to pick him out?

[John Holberg]

I would love to. Is he okay?

[Unknown]

It's been a second.

[John Holberg]

All right. He was fine. He got out, shot crap out of the middle of his little. Started that bulldog. But I put a fence around my pool because of my dog. I freaked out when I read all that. Bus has a. He's got a life jacket. He wears that thing, swims like an eel. He doesn't need any of it. But just in case, because the Internet told me they. They sink sometimes or they panic, and then they get straight up and down. Their noses can't handle it. I baby them. But if I had kids, oh, my God, I'd have, like, that wall that they're building in Mexico would be around that pole. I couldn't do it. I don't think my dad cared. He never. We built a pool. It's like, do you want a fence? He's like, for what?

[Unknown]

The idiot's going to drown.

[Brady]

Survival.

[John Holberg]

My dad, I think. I think we grew up as the generation. If you drown, you're dumb.

[Brady]

Yeah.

[John Holberg]

No. Well, it's not nice, and it's not right, but, yeah. I think our parents basically said, what do you mean? Drown you. When idiots drown, I'm like, oh, yeah.

[Brett]

There was never a fear.

[John Holberg]

No.

[Brett]

Weird.

[John Holberg]

Anyway. Not weird, but, yeah, no, it's weird. It's definitely weird to just be, like, so cavalier about it.

[Brett]

And then we'd go to lakes, rivers, just. I mean, we were allowed to go.

[John Holberg]

To the river at age 16 with a piece of plywood and a rope and tie it to the trees and surf against the current.

[Brett]

Yeah.

[John Holberg]

And park our jeeps on the side of the thing. And then we'd go on a countless amount of times. I'd fall off, splash. And then you just hold your breath until the river spit you out. Because you're under it. You're not. You learn real early. Don't panic because this thing's. And you. And your head would bob up and everybody laugh like, he was probably gonna drown, but that thing would. There's a current under that lazy salt river. And then we found out our friend Aswan, from high school. Do you remember Aswan? No, you probably did not. You were. He drowned at the river. And all of us kind of were like, what. What happened? You see?

[Brett]

You know Jumping in movies where they show the foot getting wedged in a rock or something.

[John Holberg]

Sure.

[Brett]

Always think about that.

[John Holberg]

But that. That's. You're not drowning. You're. You're stuck. Like drowning to me. You're just swimming along and then you stop. Like something happens. Like usually it has. Something else has to happen. I feel terrible. It's awful. It's an awful thing. But, yeah, see, I was more worried.

[Brett]

About looking across the surface of the lake water that a great white shark was coming after watching Jaws a couple times.

[John Holberg]

In the lake.

[Brett]

Yeah. Yeah. And it's a lake.

[John Holberg]

Well, you saying stuff like that makes me. You're susceptible to drowning because that's what a dumb kid would have done. It's a lake, for God's sake.

[Brady]

I know. Jaws 3D. They got into Sea World.

[John Holberg]

If you're still worried. If Jaws 3D is still like, man, that thing's got me. I'm still getting chills. They did get into Sea World. They broke in.

[Brady]

Terrible movie.

[John Holberg]

Oh, well. Was it Jaws Forward?

[Brett]

We would always do that.

[John Holberg]

You.

[Brett]

You reflect. You look back. You just. Your head's right above the water.

[John Holberg]

You look at the surface of the water for sharks.

[Brett]

Like the movie.

[John Holberg]

No, you guys were on drugs. But the had the same feel. Was it Jaws 4, where it was Son of Jaws that swam down to Florida? I think it was Son of Jaws. Yeah.

[Brady]

And it wasn't the original wife in that one, too.

[John Holberg]

That might have been Jaws, too. The original wife took the kids to Florida to get away from the COVID Well, to.

[Brady]

Roy Scheider was still in.

[John Holberg]

Okay, so then it was four.

[Brady]

Yeah.

[John Holberg]

When the. When the shark wasn't. It wasn't up there in the northeast anymore. And he found it. Them. It's. And it's Son of Jaws Lewis gossip.

[Brady]

No, that was three.

[John Holberg]

That was three. Dennis Quaid and Louis. So terrible. Brett and I were children of the 80s. We watched the Jaws movies, especially because.

[Brady]

It was in 3D. I went to the movie theater to see it.

[John Holberg]

I probably sat by you. We were the four people in the movie theater ones. This is awesome. It's like the shark's actually in here. What the hell is the story of this movie? It broke glass. Yeah. Anyway, be careful around water and watch your kids and all that stuff and all those little PSAs. They actually mean something. You never know. We lost Theo, for crying out. Part of my childhood. Very happy part of it. Tv. I love the tv. Losing all those people from back then, you don't want to lose the ones the same age as you.

[Brady]

And don't watch anything past Jaws too.

[John Holberg]

No. And that's like Ricky Schroeder dying. Like.

[Unknown]

What?

[John Holberg]

You can't. You can't do that. Don't be the kids of my. I understand the ones that you know have been trouble. Todd Bridges is still alive. God damn it.

[Brady]

Who'd have never thought.

[John Holberg]

No one would have thought Theo would have outlived Willis or the other way. Yeah. Willis would have outlived feel. There's no possible way you'd have thought one of those Drummond kids. All the Drummonds are dead except the worst one.

[Brady]

Yeah.

[John Holberg]

Although Dana Plato gave a run for the money there for worst one.

[Brady]

Anyway, Jaws, the revenge.

[John Holberg]

I mean, Gary Coleman gets pushed down the stairs and dies. Theo drowns. And there's Willis, like, pushing 60. He's the Keith Richards children's star. And you know what? He's just recently been cast in a movie called we in the W. And so he's going to be one of the girls from the wnba. Joanna, I think, is his name. Let's get right to it. Let's get a wake up song, shall we? 585 9, 800. Let's scream it together. It's 98 KUPD win a W. Arizona's most powerful, powerful rock radio station.