07-24-25 - Thursdays w/Former Dallas Cowboy OLineman Dale Hellestrae - How Does Dale Feel About The Passing Of Hulk Hogan And Ozzy Osbourne - We Learn That Chuck Mangione And A Member Of Golden Earring Have Also Died

Summary

Holmberg's Morning Sickness - Arizona

Episode: 07-24-25 - Thursdays with Former Dallas Cowboy OL Dale Hell
Release Date: July 24, 2025
Host: John Holmberg
Guests: Dale Hell, Larry McFeely

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Introduction: Honoring Passed Icons

The episode opens with John Holmberg and Dale Hell delving into recent losses in the entertainment world, expressing their thoughts on the passing of prominent figures such as Hulk Hogan, Ozzy Osbourne, Chuck Mangione, and a member of Golden Earring.

John Holmberg [02:00]: "It's number three. I mean, there's a lot more who've died, but three notable ones right now."

Dale Hell [07:56]: "That's terribly sad. That was young Ozzy Osbourne."

While John maintains a more balanced perspective, Dale Hell exhibits strong opinions, particularly criticizing Ozzy Osbourne and Hulk Hogan.

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Debate on Wrestling and Influence

The conversation shifts to wrestling, specifically focusing on Hulk Hogan's impact and authenticity within the sport.

John Holmberg [03:00]: "What did Hulk Hogan mean to you? Did he ever encourage you to do steroids, I mean, vitamins?"

Dale Hell [03:04]: "I was, I've never been a wrestling guy. It was too homoerotic. You had a lot of touching, grabbing."

Dale Hell dismisses wrestling as "fake" and expresses discomfort with the performative aspects, contrasting it with his own experiences in football.

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Sports Dynamics and Jerry Jones

A significant portion of the discussion centers around Jerry Jones and his influence on the Dallas Cowboys, highlighting both his business acumen and controversial decisions.

John Holmberg [05:38]: "There's too much success."

Dale Hell [05:17]: "I think that he thought he was way too important back in the 90s, football-wise. Now business-wise, I can't be."

They criticize Jones for prioritizing media presence over team performance, questioning his decisions in player contracts and team management.

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Personal Anecdotes: Dale Hell's SMU Experience

Dale Hell shares a personal story from his time at Southern Methodist University (SMU), involving encounters with the mob and memorable experiences as a freshman.

Dale Hell [31:35]: "So me, Andrew, and one other guy, we're back in Big Joe's office... and three dudes come into this office."

This narrative adds depth to Dale's character, illustrating his tumultuous and colorful past, which contrasts with the more structured approach of the hosts.

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Critique of Celebrity Passings and Emotional Responses

The hosts explore societal reactions to the deaths of celebrities, questioning the depth of connection and genuine emotion people feel towards public figures.

Dale Hell [20:18]: "I'm smart. Two or three have just passed away."

John Holmberg [20:24]: "But the Malcolm kid seemed like a great guy. But Ozzy. Are you kidding me? Ozzy should have been dead 20 years ago."

Dale Hell maintains a skeptical view on the emotional reactions to such passings, emphasizing a more detached stance compared to the typical public mourning.

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Humorous Exchanges and Bickering

Throughout the episode, playful banter and insults between John Holmberg, Dale Hell, and Larry McFeely add a layer of humor to the discussion.

John Holmberg [24:41]: "This one says Dale. He didn't go see AC dc. He saw AC dcte."

Dale Hell [24:15]: "I just shared my feelings."

Such interactions highlight the camaraderie and dynamics among the hosts, making the conversation lively and entertaining.

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Current Sports Commentary: MLB and NFL Insights

The conversation shifts to current sports events, providing analysis and opinions on team performances and player decisions.

Dale Hell [40:27]: "As a player, what are you seeing? Do you want to keep fighting for the wild card?"

John Holmberg [41:00]: "True."

They discuss the Arizona Diamondbacks' performance in MLB, touching on player contracts and team strategy, as well as NFL issues like player injuries and team dynamics.

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Closing Remarks: Reflection and Future Outlook

As the episode wraps up, the hosts reflect on the day's discussions, expressing their perspectives on mortality, legacy, and the ever-changing landscape of sports and entertainment.

John Holmberg [19:45]: "It reminds you that this is a runaway train that just eventually you."

Dale Hell [20:28]: "But the Malcolm kid seemed like a great guy. But Ozzy."

The episode concludes with a light-hearted yet poignant acknowledgment of the transient nature of fame and life, setting the stage for future discussions.

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Notable Quotes:

• John Holmberg: "You have to be able to get a lot." [33:00]
• Dale Hell: "He was a textbook example of why rock sucks." [09:26]
• Larry McFeely: "I'm getting bullied." [13:38]
• John Holmberg: "We all die." [20:53]

Conclusion

This episode of Holmberg's Morning Sickness offers a blend of serious commentary on recent celebrity passings and sports dynamics, interspersed with humorous exchanges and personal anecdotes. Dale Hell's candid and often controversial opinions provide a stark contrast to John Holmberg's more measured approach, creating an engaging and multifaceted discussion for listeners.

Transcript

[John Holmberg]

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[Dale Hell]

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[Dale Hell]

You thought that was funny? Holmberg's morning sickness.

[John Holmberg]

You were laughing like a hyena when he said it. What the hell is wrong with you? I'll get right to it. Now, how about this. We said yesterday it's tough for us to break news to people on the radio anymore because everybody's got their own phones and stuff. But then it was Hulk Hogan passed away right as we were chatting.

[Dale Hell]

Is that the third?

[John Holmberg]

It's number three. I mean, there's a lot more who've died, but three notable ones right now.

[Dale Hell]

What?

[John Holmberg]

The 80s are dropping dead before our.

[Dale Hell]

Eyes, Dale and you're. And you're part of the 80s.

[John Holmberg]

Well, you're more part of the 80s. That whole SMU thing is not looking good on you. Crazy Dale Hell street joins us once again on Thursdays. It's time to chat about sports and everything else that's going on. But that's a big one right there. And it's brought to you by Prestige Billiards A dot com. Get it all taken care of. If you have any. Like I was talking to Billy Gardell about my, my Steelers room. All prestige billiard stuff in there. They just loaded me up. The pool table, the air, everything I did. I went through that. And I've got the best room in my house and I spend all my time in it. He's got chairs. He's got like my Steelers chair. Which you sit in.

[Dale Hell]

Yeah, very comfortable Steelers chair. That was for me. No, I mean I sat on the Steelers in the Super Bowl.

[John Holmberg]

Three time super bowl champion Dale Hel here.

[Dale Hell]

Yeah.

[John Holmberg]

What did Hulk Hogan mean to you? Did he ever encourage you to do steroid, I mean, vitamins?

[Dale Hell]

I, I, I was, I've never been a wrestling guy. No, never been a wrestling guy because.

[John Holmberg]

It was too homoerotic.

[Dale Hell]

You had a lot of touching, grabbing.

[John Holmberg]

That was football, Dale. You played football for 20 years.

[Dale Hell]

You had, you had layers on you. You're not just wearing a little bikini.

[John Holmberg]

You didn't like the skin to skin action.

[Dale Hell]

I would though. That would suck.

[John Holmberg]

Too sexy.

[Dale Hell]

That would suck.

[John Holmberg]

So you, you think that maybe fake, you know?

[Dale Hell]

Yeah, I don't like fake.

[John Holmberg]

Was it though?

[Dale Hell]

Yes, it was fake.

[John Holmberg]

Was flipping off that topic. Have you ever seen the athletes Very athletic.

[Dale Hell]

I was opening up. Okay, who wins tonight?

[John Holmberg]

All right.

[Dale Hell]

I guess I'm winning.

[John Holmberg]

The outcomes predetermined.

[Dale Hell]

That was so that's fake.

[Larry McFeely]

Okay. They do that in the NFL every now and then.

[Dale Hell]

Yeah.

[John Holmberg]

I was just gonna say the Patriots spent 18 years doing. You work for Jerry Jones. He's the king of the wwe. He's doing it again.

[Dale Hell]

What's that?

[John Holmberg]

He's going. You guys realize that I have, I hold the purse strings and there's no reason for me to worry about Micah Parsons. He's, he's in camp. He's doing this strictly for theater. This, this money doesn't mean anything. He's a WWE king, so you can't make fun of fake the whole thing.

[Dale Hell]

Jerry Jones is why he's annoying and can drive you crazy. If you're a fan, he's a genius. Because every ESPN broadcast is going to have a star. Michael Parsons. Michael Parsons.

[John Holmberg]

Very true.

[Dale Hell]

He did it with Ezekiel Elliot 567. Every day there's something about the Cowboys and I, I'm, I'm 98% sure that they've talked to. Okay, this would be your contract. But let's play this thing out because.

[John Holmberg]

It, it's great tv.

[Larry McFeely]

We need the soap opera.

[John Holmberg]

But the problem is he's got to pay him now the highest amount paid. So he could have done this and gotten him signed for 10 million less and made the team better rather than give them more press.

[Dale Hell]

I, I, you know what? At the end of the day, I don't even know if he cares.

[John Holmberg]

But you don't think it's like you're a bad soldier. It's time for you to start talking about your days with the Ravens.

[Dale Hell]

It's like, you know what? Come on, man. It's been 35 years since you won a Super Bowl. Something wrong, you know, and, and you're going to continue to do the same. Same thing. So I, I have a feeling that some of his competitive juice is gone and that's disappointing.

[John Holmberg]

Or is it personal competitive juice where he feels like people love me and that's the win.

[Dale Hell]

I, I think that he thought he was way too important back in the 90s, football wise, yes. Now business wise, I can't be. I mean, he's just dumbass luck. I mean, you think. Yeah, I think that anything he touches and if he does it wrong or right, it turns into gold. I mean, I'm not saying he's not smart.

[John Holmberg]

There's too much success.

[Dale Hell]

I'm not saying he's not smart, but he stumbled on a couple things.

[John Holmberg]

He stumbled into the Cowboys, but he changed the game.

[Dale Hell]

Yeah, like he was for Junior to.

[Larry McFeely]

Drop the Hush Puppies and take the.

[John Holmberg]

Steve should have the team.

[Dale Hell]

Yeah, we're talking, talking food.

[John Holmberg]

Brady always talks. He's making a reference to Smokey and the Bandit. He thought you'd get smoking. You can't talk to people with CTE and bring up 50 year old movies.

[Dale Hell]

Yeah, that's a long time ago.

[John Holmberg]

Come on, man. You can't think. Especially something as veiled as the hush puppy reference. I got it. Cause I still have my wits. But you know so much about. Well, I still have my wits. I also know stuff I should, but I. You can't have. You can't say that Jerry Jones didn't come into the league and say, oops, accidentally got this for a great price and then started to buck the system. Changed the game on sponsorships and went individual and everything. Got rights for jersey sales. Were all the teams now. And he took that on and made that a $20 billion value.

[Dale Hell]

Did you see what? Because the packers are the only team that has to disclose how much they get, how much they make.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah, because it's.

[Dale Hell]

No, did you see what they're.

[John Holmberg]

What was it?

[Dale Hell]

Their disbursement was 400 and I don't quote me 454 and 60 million.

[John Holmberg]

Okay, that's just going out for this year.

[Dale Hell]

No, no, no. That's what they got.

[John Holmberg]

Oh, okay. Okay.

[Dale Hell]

From shared revenue.

[John Holmberg]

Okay.

[Dale Hell]

460 million. So that's TV. Yeah, that's.

[John Holmberg]

That's from the TV contract. Jersey sales merch.

[Dale Hell]

4 to 60 million.

[John Holmberg]

That's just.

[Dale Hell]

That's what they've got about 225 million.

[John Holmberg]

Gravy. No tickets sold. They're already in the. They're already in the.

[Dale Hell]

No tickets, no suites, no parking, no hot dogs.

[John Holmberg]

They're already 200 up.

[Dale Hell]

Yes. Pretty good business to be in.

[John Holmberg]

Not a bad business.

[Dale Hell]

It's kind of like radio.

[John Holmberg]

So why do you shut up there and quit? Call me lucky.

[Larry McFeely]

It would have to be that in order to get the evaluation set their kid like 10, you know.

[John Holmberg]

Well, 10. 10 to 15 billion dollars. Dallas, is that. Anyway, I'm going to get back to death Dale, since you were just knocking on the door. Yeah, you got.

[Dale Hell]

I heard the guy on before.

[John Holmberg]

Billy Gardell. Yeah, Billy's awesome.

[Dale Hell]

Hunters. He.

[John Holmberg]

He lost 170 pounds.

[Dale Hell]

He lost half of Brady.

[John Holmberg]

He lost a little bit of Brady. In fact, in the commercial saying, I lost this much. He holds Brady, but. And it's like just half of them. We lose Theo from the Cosby Show.

[Dale Hell]

Yeah, that.

[John Holmberg]

That's terribly sad. That was young Ozzy Osbourne. What do you mean? I knew you'd have the wrong opinion about this.

[Dale Hell]

Come on, Ozzy. He should have been dead 30 years.

[Larry McFeely]

He's right. It happened.

[John Holmberg]

I'm not talking about shocking. I knew he'd dismiss this as like a meaningless.

[Dale Hell]

They have a song that Ozzy sings. Anything you want.

[John Holmberg]

A Black Sabbath guy who. Oh, this is painful.

[Dale Hell]

So he was part of Black Sabbath, then he went on his own.

[John Holmberg]

It just made me think of something hilarious, though. If we did Clint Black Sabbath and just kind of mashed those.

[Larry McFeely]

I guarantee you Iron man was playing in of yours.

[John Holmberg]

Oh, you were dealing with a lot of Ozzy in college.

[Dale Hell]

Yeah. You listen to Iron Man? You better have your headphones on or there's a fight in college.

[Larry McFeely]

Come on, crazy train.

[John Holmberg]

You did not have. Are you gonna yell at him? Larry, get over here. Larry McFeely. This is a celebrity here. And this guy probably could have had opportunities throughout his career to be invited to XYZ concert, Black Sabbath reunion.

[Larry McFeely]

You know, all of this kind of stuff.

[John Holmberg]

Nothing.

[Dale Hell]

No, I mean, come on.

[Larry McFeely]

He'd rather be noodling with Roland Martin.

[Dale Hell]

He is a textbook example of why rock sucks.

[John Holmberg]

Oh, my God.

[Dale Hell]

He's passing my sorrow.

[Larry McFeely]

He is.

[John Holmberg]

He's trolling us.

[Dale Hell]

Seriously. You can sing like him. Brady can sing like him.

[John Holmberg]

But I can't write the songs. There he goes again with a yelling it.

[Larry McFeely]

There's his eye.

[Dale Hell]

Let me bite his snake's head off.

[John Holmberg]

No, it was a bat and it was a candy. He did snort a line of ants. Still better than Randy Travis. You're a hero.

[Dale Hell]

Just drank himself into the circles.

[John Holmberg]

Let me. Here, let me do my impression of Luke Bryan. Let me do my impression of Luke Bryan real quick. Yeah. Oh, they're all on coke. That's the only way you can tolerate country music.

[Dale Hell]

They're physical fitness nuts, Johnny.

[John Holmberg]

That's right. Because they got all the energy in the world from all their cocaine. You're an idiot.

[Dale Hell]

I lost my life for the little Angus dude from acdc.

[John Holmberg]

How in the world did Angus almost kill me?

[Dale Hell]

Because I was a bouncer back at smu. Okay. As a freshman. And I'm sitting in front of this. We had no idea who AC DC was. Reunion arena.

[John Holmberg]

Then you're done.

[Dale Hell]

No. But no. Back in 1981 they were just coming on the scene.

[Larry McFeely]

Yeah.

[Dale Hell]

They were both ACDC.

[John Holmberg]

I mean it was.

[Dale Hell]

It was mid-70s.

[Larry McFeely]

Funny people. That did not they again they had a.

[John Holmberg]

1981 was after their lead singer died and they replaced him with Brian Johnson. They had 20.

[Dale Hell]

That little Angus dude was.

[John Holmberg]

He was always there.

[Dale Hell]

Right. But they had a little scrawny guy.

[John Holmberg]

Dirty deeds.

[Dale Hell]

Well they all scrawny.

[Larry McFeely]

You're not gonna know. It's angry.

[Dale Hell]

It wasn't. So I'm in front of the fence with my buddies. We're a reunion arena. It's wafting of. Of marijuana there. I. I thought I fail a drug test because just. Just smelling it. And all of a sudden a bell comes out of the damn ceiling.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah.

[Dale Hell]

And this little dude with jeans and no shirt and he starts clinging this bell.

[John Holmberg]

It's a concert.

[Dale Hell]

Everybody starts forcing their way down and we're like looking at each other. I. I'm not dying for that idiot. Up.

[John Holmberg]

What are you doing on the stage?

[Dale Hell]

What?

[John Holmberg]

We're protecting it sounds like he was security.

[Larry McFeely]

Yeah. Security. Security.

[Dale Hell]

What a great.

[John Holmberg]

Security guys. Automatically.

[Larry McFeely]

I thought it was like he was walking in a nightclub.

[Dale Hell]

I jumped over the fence and left. And I said the hell with this. $50.

[John Holmberg]

Wow. So you're doing security for ACDC?

[Dale Hell]

Didn't know what ACDC was.

[John Holmberg]

Dumb. That's just dumb.

[Dale Hell]

The next week we had security for Peabo Bryson.

[John Holmberg]

So you knew Peabo and you stayed.

[Larry McFeely]

He Stayed.

[Dale Hell]

No. Did you?

[John Holmberg]

What did you know?

[Dale Hell]

I knew. New country. I knew. Yeah. Cut. Conway, Twitty, Johnny, you know what I'm saying?

[John Holmberg]

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[Dale Hell]

Holmberg's morning sickness Intelligence, right?

[John Holmberg]

Oh, I wish that bell would have hit you.

[Dale Hell]

Ozzy Osborne.

[Brady]

He.

[Dale Hell]

He's a weirdo. He's not talented. Oh, my God, it's Black Sabbath. Name. Name Three thoughts.

[John Holmberg]

This one says, dale should hire some security right now because there's going to be people that are going to lend in his ass outside today. Yeah. For legal purposes. That was just a joke, Andrew. Yeah.

[Dale Hell]

Name three songs from.

[Larry McFeely]

I was just gonna name those three.

[John Holmberg]

Maybe not. I'm not so sure about that.

[Dale Hell]

More pigs.

[John Holmberg]

I am Iron Man.

[Dale Hell]

Okay. You said that eight times.

[John Holmberg]

No, I'm saying that's legendary.

[Dale Hell]

Any other songs?

[John Holmberg]

Any other songs? The Wizard, Black Sabbath, the song Jesus God Almighty. It goes on and on. Then he gets a diary of a madman. Crazy train.

[Dale Hell]

Throwing.

[John Holmberg]

Name after name.

[Dale Hell]

Monster Tinker. I'm Coming Home.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah, you'd love it. It's a ballad. Harry Mason sounds a little more country.

[Dale Hell]

I'm feeling attacked. I might.

[John Holmberg]

And you should, because you attacked first.

[Dale Hell]

You drew first blood. Yeah.

[John Holmberg]

Oh, now he goes all lib tart and he starts throwing out bullying.

[Larry McFeely]

I'm getting bullied.

[Dale Hell]

Feelings are my feelings.

[John Holmberg]

This guy. I'm the middle of the road guy. You're the one that's always like, trump's the best thing in the world. Now you're like, oh, someone hurt my feelings. You can't do both. You can ask Conway Twitty what he thought of Ozzy.

[Dale Hell]

Yeah. What do you think? Say Hank Williams Jr. No. You're gonna say, anybody can name three.

[John Holmberg]

Songs of Hank Williams Jr. Besides, are you ready for some football?

[Dale Hell]

What? Is. Is that not the best song ever, Johnny? Monday Night Football. You're telling me you didn't sit there and listen?

[John Holmberg]

Oh, I did like that.

[Larry McFeely]

There's some similarities of Hank Williams Jr and Aussie as far as lifestyle.

[Dale Hell]

They're biting head bats of bats. Heads off, by the way. I don't like this little guy over Lar. After eight days of vacation, he comes in a lot of energy. It gives a lot of energy.

[John Holmberg]

No, I just came in because Brett's not here. Yeah, he came in because you said something ridiculously stupid. Unbelievable.

[Dale Hell]

We heard it here.

[John Holmberg]

Dale Helister, everybody.

[Dale Hell]

So really, two celebrities have passed away.

[John Holmberg]

And you didn't even like Hulk Hogan that much. You said too much. Man on man action.

[Dale Hell]

Well, again, I kind of like his show after.

[John Holmberg]

What about. What about Ozzy's show after his music?

[Dale Hell]

Oh, that.

[Larry McFeely]

That was one of the first reality.

[John Holmberg]

The first reality.

[Dale Hell]

You couldn't understand a word he said.

[John Holmberg]

Dale, do you think you are living any differently? No one can understand you, unfortunately. I understand.

[Larry McFeely]

He left me a message.

[Dale Hell]

Yeah.

[John Holmberg]

You want to hear what he said to Brady? It's. I gotta find it. But yeah, he. I asked him to say F you to the entire town. We had Ozzy on the show several times.

[Dale Hell]

Gay for you. Low hanging fruit. You know, I'm ready. Go yourself.

[John Holmberg]

You can understand that, right?

[Larry McFeely]

Nice.

[Dale Hell]

Yeah, I don't. I don't understand the fascination with him. He had a couple decent songs.

[John Holmberg]

He was amazing.

[Larry McFeely]

He's a legend in this music.

[John Holmberg]

In this 55 years.

[Larry McFeely]

Metal music on top icon.

[Dale Hell]

He lived 34 or 30 to 40 years longer than he should have.

[John Holmberg]

That's probably true.

[Dale Hell]

People would say that about you. That's the best thing he done. That's the best thing.

[John Holmberg]

It's just longevity.

[Dale Hell]

Well, yes. Yeah. Him and that Keith Richards idiot.

[John Holmberg]

Oh, my God. No, you're right about him.

[Larry McFeely]

Family, man. All the things that you like about a guy Ozzy had, you know, he.

[John Holmberg]

He was. He was a family. And he had a lot of love at home.

[Dale Hell]

Football. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[John Holmberg]

And. And I know a lot of football players like this. He used to bang the masseuse a lot. Probably too much.

[Dale Hell]

Really?

[John Holmberg]

Oh, yeah. I got in trouble for that. The makeup lady, the hairdresser. He had a lot of side sex. He liked Asian girls.

[Dale Hell]

Couldn't be ugly. And that's probably why you like him. You see a lot of you in him.

[John Holmberg]

And Dale starts calling people ugly. That's my favorite. Anyway. You're out of your mind.

[Dale Hell]

Yes.

[John Holmberg]

You're out of your mind.

[Dale Hell]

All right.

[John Holmberg]

No, no, not all right. Not all right. We'll move on to something. Thanks for setting Dale straight, Larry. No, I. I'm sorry.

[Dale Hell]

I don't know if I've ever seen Larry's lower legs. I mean, his calves are like my forearms.

[John Holmberg]

He's very, very narrow. He's a narrow man. No reason why are you loud. You just claimed you were being attacked and bullied and.

[Dale Hell]

Right.

[John Holmberg]

Point out Larry's tiny legs.

[Larry McFeely]

Well, it's constant attacking.

[Dale Hell]

I'm saying the truth. I Mean, look at the difference between this and this. You're pointing to Brady. I got Brady and I got Larry on either side.

[John Holmberg]

That's right. And then perfect in the middle.

[Dale Hell]

Yeah, me.

[John Holmberg]

No, I'm over here. No, in your realm of. This guy's an idiot. Dale Hell.

[Dale Hell]

You said formerly, I'm an idiot.

[John Holmberg]

No, formerly on this show. Dale Hell. This is your goodbye. This is it. As the 80s pass away, we let Dale go with them. It's brought to you by Prestige Billiards az dot com. That's not gonna happen anymore. There's no way. He's not. He's not keeping up this. But yeah, Prestige Billiards, available at prestige billiards az.com. tell them. What do you put meathead in there? Get 10 off in honor of Ozzy.

[Larry McFeely]

They got the video games.

[John Holmberg]

The video games over there, they got tons of them.

[Dale Hell]

Why don't you pick up a little bit extra and make 20% off?

[John Holmberg]

Who would. I would do that. Who die? That would impress you? Like, who would be like, oh, that's a Stinger.

[Dale Hell]

Isn't gonna be a sad day when Jerry dies?

[John Holmberg]

Jerry Jones, Yeah. You just sat cracking on.

[Dale Hell]

I mean, all, all the things that he's done for the national. You said it was all luck. How about Mike Tomlin?

[John Holmberg]

Oh, that would be crushing. There's no reason to go on. Yeah, there's no reason to go on. Black Jesus goes. We should all fold up, right?

[Dale Hell]

So again, there's certain guys, sports figures more than singers, you know, like, you.

[John Holmberg]

Don'T care when singers die.

[Dale Hell]

There's some countries.

[John Holmberg]

What was the last celebrity that passed that? You're like, stung. That stung you. All right, calm down about the Captain and Tenille. We knew that was low hanging fruit. What was the last celebrity that passed away? You're like, oh, that hurt. That was.

[Dale Hell]

I have a hard time drumming up any emotion, human emotion for people I haven't met, you know, but stings you in a ways.

[John Holmberg]

Like, oh, that was.

[Dale Hell]

Prince died. And people are like crying. It's like, hold on, have you broke bread with Prince?

[John Holmberg]

You have to. You don't have to, but it can still mean something.

[Larry McFeely]

Your music, his music.

[John Holmberg]

No, you're mourning. That part of your life has now been put in the spotlight.

[Dale Hell]

You got records and tapes.

[John Holmberg]

It's a reminder.

[Larry McFeely]

Like, Luke Bryan.

[Dale Hell]

Guys like Luke Bryan. But when he, when he passed away, if he does, he's not.

[John Holmberg]

But if it represents a part of your life, like, like at smu, I'm sure there's songs that remind you of Back when you were relevant.

[Dale Hell]

Yeah.

[John Holmberg]

And I'm sure you have to go back years and years, but you go back to SMU and those songs that you're like, oh, man, we used to listen to that all the time. If that guy dies, you'd be like, oh, wow, that's part of my.

[Dale Hell]

I'm not going to go in a dark room and cry.

[John Holmberg]

No.

[Dale Hell]

And there are people who do that. It's like, come on. Oh, I understand.

[Larry McFeely]

But they were that much. That they're that much into the music. It's just like a sports fan that a player that won the super bowl, they're a big fan of the team. They cry.

[Dale Hell]

But it reminds you, like, when I pass away, I'm sure there'd be a lot of people that are going to.

[John Holmberg]

Oh, there's going to be so much joy. I won't contra. I won't be able to tears of joy. The tears will flow. The tears will flow.

[Larry McFeely]

It's a celebration of life.

[Dale Hell]

I just feel beat up on today. Why is it.

[John Holmberg]

Well, you know, it's not Larry. He's got those tiny legs. You wouldn't even feel it. Like a mosquito landing on you. But don't you think that when somebody. Like when this happens and people do react the way that you're. You're judging and poorly, that when they do react to something like this, it's more just a reminder of our own mortality and how something that was an important part of our life, maybe even like a pillar of our certain existence, is now no longer alive anymore. And it's a reminder that this is a runaway train that just eventually you.

[Dale Hell]

Go way too deep on that. So it's because I'm smart. Two or three that just passed away.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah.

[Dale Hell]

And I. I feel bad for their families. I mean, sure. That they're gonna miss them and. And that sucks.

[John Holmberg]

Right.

[Dale Hell]

But the. The Malcolm kid seemed like a great guy. Seemed like a nice guy.

[John Holmberg]

Malcolm J.

[Dale Hell]

But. But Ozzy. Are you kidding me? Ozzy should have been dead 20 years ago.

[John Holmberg]

It shouldn't have been surprising. But again, it's part of people's childhoods and high schools and maybe snorted ants.

[Dale Hell]

You said he bought. He bits heads off.

[John Holmberg]

That's great lore.

[Larry McFeely]

Legendary legend.

[Dale Hell]

He was cheating death.

[Larry McFeely]

Sure he was.

[Dale Hell]

It was his time.

[John Holmberg]

We all die.

[Dale Hell]

And Hulk Hogan, you know, he took. But the point of steroids, he didn't know what to do with.

[John Holmberg]

That's true. So you don't feel bad about it? I think that, like, the Hulk Hogan thing is, like, there's A lot that go like, he died when he was 71.

[Dale Hell]

I'm like, that's still long life for.

[John Holmberg]

The life, the way he treated himself. I agree.

[Dale Hell]

And same thing with.

[Larry McFeely]

I didn't break. I didn't break bread with him, but I met Hulk Hogan and I cried.

[John Holmberg]

No, this guy says, it used to be cute how Dale was playing dumb and stuff, but now I realize he actually is dumb. And this is borderline. This is abuse.

[Dale Hell]

Hey, you can't say that.

[John Holmberg]

But all right. Not borderline. He's retarded. You're right. Dale's right. Okay, I'm sorry. Borderline. E tarted. You're an E tart. I won't say the R parts that's so offensive to people.

[Dale Hell]

Okay, let's get off this subject.

[John Holmberg]

I'd love to.

[Dale Hell]

You guys are ridiculous. What did I ask you to remind me of?

[John Holmberg]

I don't remember.

[Dale Hell]

I said, you guys have touched it. What's it called? The.

[John Holmberg]

All right, we're going to take a break. We'll come back with your story.

[Larry McFeely]

It reminds you of a place.

[John Holmberg]

Dale has a food. All right, calm down, Brady. We'll get to it. Yeah. Oh, he fired up. Now he's going to his phone to look it up. I got this.

[Larry McFeely]

It was a riddle.

[John Holmberg]

All right.

[Dale Hell]

Hey, where's Toledo?

[John Holmberg]

He's in the back there.

[Dale Hell]

I don't see any. I don't see him storming around.

[John Holmberg]

I'm taking care of things right now. Jesus Christ, you two. Dale is not making any fans today, But I'm enjoying every second. But borderline, E tarted Dale Hell is right here, courtesy of our friends at Prestige Billiards. We'll. We'll check with Dale again in a second. It's 98.

[Dale Hell]

Holgs.

[John Holmberg]

Morning sickness.

[Dale Hell]

Morning sickness. Sorry.

[John Holmberg]

We just played an rip for Ozzy because the station is actually running clips in eulogy. You don't know this song, Dale?

[Dale Hell]

This is about when I turn it off. Yeah.

[John Holmberg]

Such a dick. I'm going back out in the van. This is terrible. Brett was the best. Brett came in and he goes, this guy.

[Dale Hell]

You're a moron.

[John Holmberg]

We didn't even by. Dale came running and screaming, which was awesome. I was screaming in the truck all.

[Dale Hell]

The way back here.

[John Holmberg]

You have made friends today. You have. Yeah. You are a Dallas Cowboy through and through. You're so easy to not like I want to. I want Dale to pass away. So Thursday show gets good again. Make HMS Great again on Thursdays. Kill Dale. Of course, for comic purposes only, let's not actually.

[Larry McFeely]

You Hit the hive today.

[John Holmberg]

This is your fault. You got to stand up to this.

[Larry McFeely]

Just like you ran at the acdc.

[John Holmberg]

I'm running.

[Larry McFeely]

I'm running.

[John Holmberg]

Dale can write off his sports commentary. Isn't even good. I only enjoy John making fun of how dumb he is. What an absolute piece of. I don't hate a lot of things in this life, but that big dumb now on top of my list. Don't invite him back. See you next week, Jeremy. God damn it. Dale has never been less interesting. And that's saying something. You just read that? Yeah. No, I didn't read it on the air, though. Oh, I thought he did. I had to let everybody know that one. I'm confused. Dale's opinion on anything isn't valued anymore. He lost all credibility. He can be done away with. The entire segment's gone. Stop paying him to speak. Pay him to leave like a prostitute. That's true. You always pay a prostitute to leave. That's truth. Yeah. Look what you did, Dale.

[Dale Hell]

I just shared my feelings.

[John Holmberg]

He's not Frankenstein. He's Frank. And yeah, we should hold him. Said he's not Frankenstein anymore. He's FrankenTroll Wheatard.

[Dale Hell]

Do you guys have counseling here at Hubbard Radio? Because.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah, we do. You're getting beat up pretty good. Undeserved. You came in and said, hey, the thing. Everybody in this station loves stupid.

[Dale Hell]

Well, that's. Well, then, if that's what the station is built. All right.

[John Holmberg]

This one says Dale. He didn't go see AC dc. He saw AC dcte. That's right. CTE scans available. How about them Diamondbacks, Dale? Nah, we're not talking about that. Let's keep beating up Dale.

[Dale Hell]

I was at the game yesterday. So was I. Yeah, but I was a lot close to the field.

[John Holmberg]

We were in the suites. Yeah, we had free food and drink.

[Dale Hell]

So do we. Who? It doesn't matter.

[John Holmberg]

It does.

[Dale Hell]

Oh, by the way, don't who me. Play it.

[John Holmberg]

Hit it.

[Dale Hell]

Who who play it.

[John Holmberg]

Brett. How about this? We got another one. They're dropping like flies. They're dropping like flies. And Malcolm, Jamal Warner. We had Ozzy Osbourne, Hulk. And now the man responsible for Toledo's ass sounds, Chuck Mangione. There's Toledo. He just passed away.

[Dale Hell]

Now this.

[John Holmberg]

You like this?

[Dale Hell]

Yes. Haven't you been romantic to this song, Johnny?

[John Holmberg]

No, I'm straight. Break out the trumpet.

[Larry McFeely]

I didn't break out, Chuck.

[John Holmberg]

The very least romantic instrument is the trumpet. Doc Severinsson doesn't give you a hard.

[Dale Hell]

On it at the manhood in here.

[Larry McFeely]

Here.

[Dale Hell]

And I understand. There's not a whole lot of romance. Look, it goes on with you and others.

[Larry McFeely]

This was one of your go to songs?

[Dale Hell]

No, not one of my go to. I know, but no. When it came on.

[John Holmberg]

Dale, I'm not a feel good song.

[Dale Hell]

It's a feel good song.

[John Holmberg]

Not a lot of romance. Because I'm a man. I like to. I don't romance. You can romance yourself right into the.

[Dale Hell]

Wow. Wow.

[John Holmberg]

I'm turning 50. Hey, Dale. Yeah, I'm turning 53 on Saturday. But I still like. I'm 52, so. Keep your watching.

[Dale Hell]

Will you get some on your birthday?

[John Holmberg]

I'll be. I'll be with a bunch of dudes.

[Larry McFeely]

Yes.

[Dale Hell]

Going on a little boys trip.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah, probably. I'm gonna get nailed a lot. We're gonna get one of them. What are they called?

[Dale Hell]

Daisy chains?

[John Holmberg]

Is that what that's called?

[Dale Hell]

You Parliament? Sweet. Megan and Hart?

[John Holmberg]

Well, we're fine. We got. Look, birthdays are all year long and the guys wanted to go up and have like a golf man's weekend. So they started to plan this whole thing and everybody was like, all right. So we just climbed on.

[Dale Hell]

Who's. Who's gonna be watching?

[John Holmberg]

That's none of your business. It's just covered. She's covered. Chuck Mangione was, but now I gotta. I gotta. We're scrambling. All right, she's fine. You calm down.

[Dale Hell]

I'm free this weekend.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah, yeah. She loves that.

[Dale Hell]

Yeah.

[John Holmberg]

Come over and do your office.

[Dale Hell]

I'll bring her some more flowers. Dale.

[John Holmberg]

Dale is. How's your husband?

[Dale Hell]

How are you doing?

[John Holmberg]

How are you doing? And by the way, I just got a note on today's arrivals. See you at seven. Oh, Ozzy's not gonna make it through. He's gonna kill him. Finally, one away from Dale for you. He played a French horn. You uncultured f. Yeah, that's a trumpet. That's a trumpet. That is a trumpet. It had a tighter sound. That's a goddamn trumpet. A French horn. He didn't do the spinny twirly one because he knew that was too gay. So he found a trumpet hybrid. It's a trumpet.

[Dale Hell]

John, were you ever in the band.

[John Holmberg]

In, like, fourth grade? I played the clarinet for like three weeks.

[Dale Hell]

You look like a lifelong band.

[John Holmberg]

But the teacher said, no, that's a. It's a flugelhorn, you piece of garbage.

[Dale Hell]

Hey, don't look at me.

[John Holmberg]

That's just. With this clown. Either way, not romantic. And yes, I was in the band because my sister had a clarinet that she Quit using. And my dad's like, we spent 400 on that goddamn thing. Somebody's playing it. So I end up in band for, like, three weeks. And then who played the cl yeah, but then the band teacher said, you're way too cool for this. You gotta go. And he gave me a guitar.

[Dale Hell]

You are ridiculous.

[John Holmberg]

Drums raged.

[Larry McFeely]

I did the trumpet for three years.

[John Holmberg]

Did you?

[Larry McFeely]

Yeah.

[Dale Hell]

You marched out there on the field on Friday nights while the real men were playing football.

[John Holmberg]

I didn't know.

[Dale Hell]

A little flute.

[John Holmberg]

No, I was. I was banging all the football players. Girlfriends while they were on the field rubbing each other.

[Dale Hell]

You were a little Scotty. No girl paid anything.

[John Holmberg]

I'm not. There's no doubt that's true. I looked a little like a candy apple. There's nothing wrong with that. It's okay. Chuck Mangione's gone. Well, who will die before this show? I know people are rooting for a specific person.

[Dale Hell]

No, we want Brady to make it.

[Larry McFeely]

I'm trying my best.

[Dale Hell]

I, I. But I did. I asked you guys to remind me of one thing, because I did hear a few moments of your program yesterday, and you were talking about how much Brady enjoys free food, and he just happened to call somebody to say, hey, quote, he fingers.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah, yeah.

[Dale Hell]

And. And he forget talking about seven brothers.

[John Holmberg]

Seven free meals at once.

[Dale Hell]

There's a place called. I thought it was five guys.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah, that's seven brothers now. And that's where Brady called them to tell them. Because that's what you do when you're just looking to go out for lunch. Call the establishment to remind them. I'll be there in a few minutes just in case Any of the owners.

[Dale Hell]

A burger place, right? Yes. Not I know the owner.

[John Holmberg]

And then call the owner. Okay. You called Steve Howard.

[Dale Hell]

Who?

[John Holmberg]

Text me who? Yeah.

[Larry McFeely]

I had seven brothers 10 years ago, and they just opened up here, and Gilbert and I called him and said, I'm gonna go.

[John Holmberg]

Okay, so here's the thing. Let me, Let me interrupt. Because he forgets that I went golfing with the guy that he called and he. My phone number. And yesterday he was texting me the entire time after the show about what had actually happened that you called him. And he goes, oh, yeah, I'll meet you over there. We'll get the hookup. Here we go. He said exactly that. You said what? I know you as a guy.

[Larry McFeely]

He set it up.

[John Holmberg]

That's what I'm saying. He said, gonna get the hookup. All right, here we go. That was a very Brady moment.

[Dale Hell]

Just like the golf when we met his guy out there. The stick.

[John Holmberg]

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. That was awesome.

[Dale Hell]

Sat there with the bill. Came. I'm reaching for my wall.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah, but he was going to leave the guy who gave us free golf to buy the drinks and beers.

[Larry McFeely]

Jeff Agan golf.

[Dale Hell]

Yeah. But anyway.

[John Holmberg]

Ridiculous. You're a ridiculous man. Won't admit it's all about him. Won't admit he's getting his freebies. I love that you do it.

[Larry McFeely]

Just lunch last week.

[John Holmberg]

Okay, that's. You didn't invite any of us.

[Larry McFeely]

You wouldn't have come out.

[John Holmberg]

You're probably true, but still, he could have invited. I could have turned you down. Give me the opportunity. It's big of you. It's big of you to pay for. It's big of you to pay when we're not looking and then brag about it later. We kept no proof of that. Well, we sat and watched you let the dude cover in the day pick up everything.

[Dale Hell]

So what I. What I wanted to bring on. Bring on the fact that.

[John Holmberg]

You have lost all credibility.

[Dale Hell]

My segment, in my segment to tell.

[John Holmberg]

Him, sorry, this is Chuck Mangione's day.

[Dale Hell]

So I heard. I. I heard Brady trying to squeeze out of instead just being a man and saying, yeah, I called him hoping for a free meal.

[John Holmberg]

That's true.

[Dale Hell]

So it harkened back to my freshman year at SMU and me and the guy. I've told you before, my right card. I was the right tackle. We both played a lot as freshmen.

[John Holmberg]

That's right.

[Dale Hell]

Okay, we weren't starting, but we played a lot as freshmen.

[John Holmberg]

Shared a lot of time together.

[Dale Hell]

So the seniors told us, you go to this place called Campisi's. Okay, I didn't. I knew nothing of the mob. Whatever. 18 years old, don't know anything about the mob. Go to Camp PCs. They'll take care of you. So like Sundays, we don't get fed on our scholarship deal.

[John Holmberg]

Oh, really?

[Dale Hell]

So. So we. We tried it one time, and we go in and we order a full lunch or whatever, expecting Corky Campesi to pick it up.

[John Holmberg]

Always trust a guy named Corky.

[Dale Hell]

And. And. And he came walking through, never said anything to us. Found out that he bets oodles of money on NFL football.

[John Holmberg]

Oh.

[Dale Hell]

And so you. You start off by saying, I just want a lunch salad. And then if Corky comes up to you and. And talks to you, and he's a good mood, he's winning money, things are going good, right? He'll buy you anything you want. Morning sickness 28.

[John Holmberg]

Can you repeat it?

[Dale Hell]

Holmberg's morning sickness.

[John Holmberg]

Interesting.

[Dale Hell]

But if he's losing, you're paying full pull. Yes.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah. Okay.

[Dale Hell]

And so you know, if he doesn't talk to you or dinner salad, you pay your $1.50 and you get the hell out of it. Right?

[John Holmberg]

Right.

[Dale Hell]

Go to Taco Bell. And so we. We did that. We got stuck with full bill, but then we got to know him as a year. Now you're sophomore year. Junior. Now we're back in his office. Oh, now, this is where legend has it when Kennedy got assassinated the night before.

[John Holmberg]

Jesus Christ. This took a turn.

[Dale Hell]

No, I'm just saying.

[John Holmberg]

Brady Story. Is Dale gonna solve the Kennedy assassination?

[Dale Hell]

The mob thing? Who's it. It was a Jack Ruby.

[John Holmberg]

Jack Ruby's the one who. He was the strip club owner who. Who shot Lee Harvey off.

[Dale Hell]

Supposedly he had. He had dinner the. The night before at Camp East. Okay, so. So we're in the back. This had. No, dude, I'm just telling you, there's legend that. A lot of crap.

[John Holmberg]

This is. This is where potentially it was all planned out.

[Dale Hell]

And so me, Andrew, and one other guy, we're back in Big Joe's office. And we're sitting there just having fun, talking, whatever. And three dudes come into this office. It's a. Cramped off.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah.

[Dale Hell]

Literally, like from the shows. The. The black suit, suit, tie, it's sunglasses. Fred's family at night.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah.

[Dale Hell]

These dudes walk in. There's nothing sad. Joe nods his head. They hand him a manila envelope.

[John Holmberg]

Brett knows this lifestyle.

[Dale Hell]

Joe opens it up. You can see there's glossies or something. My one buddy swears that he saw a picture of a corpse. Put it back in there, hand it to him, nodded. They left. Not a word spoken. And we're like, why would they do.

[John Holmberg]

That in front of you, dolt?

[Dale Hell]

What's the problem? Well, it wasn't in front of us.

[John Holmberg]

Maybe get you out of the room. Somebody at that.

[Dale Hell]

Get out of here. I gotta look at my dead bodies.

[John Holmberg]

No, nobody's gonna say. One of the Italians would have gone the out. Yeah, somebody say that. That's going on.

[Dale Hell]

The moral of the story is, I got plenty of free meals there. And talk about the long way around the mouth.

[John Holmberg]

Oh, my God. Do you have to go back to school and realize what moral of the story is? Moral of the story is I ate a lot of free food and I might have seen a body. Unbelievable. Anyway, well, that's a Dale story for you right there. We got another one. And listen, this guy just died.

[Dale Hell]

Nope.

[John Holmberg]

Jesus Christ.

[Dale Hell]

Huey Lewis.

[John Holmberg]

It's on the screen, Dale. Huey Lewis, the guy who from Golden Earring just died. George Cuyemans, I don't know, is Golden.

[Dale Hell]

Is that this? That's.

[John Holmberg]

Don't tell me you've never heard this song.

[Dale Hell]

You know, I thought this was somebody else.

[John Holmberg]

No, it's gold.

[Dale Hell]

This is your boss cat.

[John Holmberg]

No, you're thinking Alito. It's got a similar, it's got a similar pace.

[Larry McFeely]

It does the base kind of.

[John Holmberg]

How about that? And five this week, three this morning. That means there's one more coming, right? Well, no, yeah, we got to get a six, cuz there's threes and threes. So Mangione, this guy from Golden Earring. And we're waiting on one more. We'll stick around in the air until that happens. Well, they're coming pretty quick. We might be done by 10. We might. Jesus. We might be done by 10 for real.

[Dale Hell]

How about that? I mean, 77, John. You're. You're satisfied with 77, aren't you?

[John Holmberg]

Oh, I'm not making it 77. I don't want to get that old.

[Dale Hell]

You know, but when I had my last heart checkup, the, the cardiologist said, it's not gonna be your heart to get you, dale. You've got 25 more years. And my wife looked at me and.

[John Holmberg]

Goes, oh, people are pissed about that.

[Dale Hell]

She goes, she goes, she goes, Only 25 more years. Only 25 more years. And I went, I gotta be 88 years old.

[John Holmberg]

I don't want to be that old. I think you went a little high.

[Larry McFeely]

On that, didn't you, Doc?

[John Holmberg]

How old are you right now?

[Dale Hell]

Just turned 63.

[John Holmberg]

I never want to be that old. It looks horrible. I, I can't imagine ever getting to that. So I, I'll off at 60. Who.

[Dale Hell]

Are you going golfing with? Brady. Is Brady going?

[John Holmberg]

Brady's not going. It's a dude arranged this whole thing for us named Anthony. You met him at the Rah Rah Rah room, I think.

[Dale Hell]

Maybe not. He was.

[John Holmberg]

Might not have been there. That so? Get a couple friends up there, want to do that? Gamble a little bit, hang out, gamble some more. Probably lose all the money and then come home and be stupid.

[Dale Hell]

FDL gonna be there.

[John Holmberg]

Oh no, there's no. Is that drugs? I know what you're talking. I know what you're talking about. And that's horrifying. No, that's terrible. Dead. Dead people or. No, nobody's meeting us. Me, my buddy Joe, Jim Antony, your buddy, all my friends, acquaintances. Did I call you and ask. I don't remember. Okay, that's right. That makes a ton of sense now. No, it's just. It's. We had fun last time going up there and we gamble a lot and everybody won. So it's now. Are you staying at your place at the Aria? Yeah, we're going back up and my buddy Mark's going. He bringing his son. Here's another thing. One of our friends is up there at the time and his son plays football for. I think it's Stanford or whatever. And he's become a pretty big.

[Dale Hell]

Whatever.

[John Holmberg]

He's been a pretty big influencer now. So he's up there and he goes, hey, dad, you guys gonna be. And he goes, do you mind if I bring my son? And I'm like, no. And this kid's an Adonis.

[Larry McFeely]

Met an influencer.

[John Holmberg]

Well, he is an influencer now too. So he's doing stuff. He's getting. Getting huge hits off of this. And he's like, I gotta hang out with the Raiderettes all day Saturday because they want to do some videos on TikTok. So he's invited. He's going to be there too. It's a. It's going to be interesting.

[Dale Hell]

The Steelers play at the Raiders this year?

[John Holmberg]

No, they did last year. I went to that last year. It's pretty great now. We haven't even talked about that. Football starts this week already. Justin Fields carted off the field this morning. He's done.

[Dale Hell]

Is it worse to be a New York jets fan or an Arizona Cardinal?

[John Holmberg]

There is nothing worse than being a New York jets fan.

[Dale Hell]

I mean, first. First rep of team.

[John Holmberg]

Same as when Aaron Rodgers fell in the first series.

[Dale Hell]

That was at least a game. This is practice. The Cardinals start yesterday with three guys their first round.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah. So no, they carted him off. Was it dislocated his foot or something? But yeah, who knows? But it's still. Getting carted off is never good.

[Dale Hell]

Yeah, you don't touch the quarterback.

[John Holmberg]

No. How did. Yeah, that's the thing.

[Dale Hell]

How did he get hurt? That's why I don't. I have not seen.

[Larry McFeely]

Stubbed his toe.

[Dale Hell]

Yeah. Yeah.

[John Holmberg]

You know what? I bet it was.

[Dale Hell]

I might lose a toenail.

[John Holmberg]

I bet I know what it was. Finally he had something triggered him. And he had a mental breakdown from all the rapes he saw at Ohio State.

[Dale Hell]

How many times he got checked up.

[John Holmberg]

And then he got. Yeah, all the times he thought of that doctor that fiddled his balls. That's probably what needs a good physical.

[Dale Hell]

I can't believe, Brady, that you still try and back those guys up.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah, me neither. I mean, going be there this week.

[Dale Hell]

Got a shoulder, Doc? Got your. Well, drop your doors.

[John Holmberg]

How's your shoulder feel now? Pretty good.

[Dale Hell]

Pretty good.

[Larry McFeely]

I want that doctor.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah, I bet you do. Scarlet and rape. Enjoy Ohio State football this year and baseball. Real quick. Diamondbacks. You were at the game yesterday? We're watching. They're now what, three games? Two or three games under.500. They're malingering around the wild card. Five, six games back. It doesn't look good.

[Larry McFeely]

Good.

[John Holmberg]

Geno Suarez has 37 home runs. You're looking at a team that could sell. Do you. Do you hang on and try to make that last playoff spot? Cause you could make a run. Or do you just admit this is over and you're never going to sign? What's his name? Gallon. His contract's coming up. You're going to lose him. Do you go tell the Yankees, tell the Cubs, who need a third baseman. Hey, prospect us to death. You get Gino, we'll give you an arm with it. And you give us like five guys back and try to build something. Or do you? You or do you try. What's your mentality as a player?

[Dale Hell]

Well, as a two different.

[John Holmberg]

As a player, what are you seeing? Do you want to keep fighting for the wild card?

[Dale Hell]

You want to keep fighting? If you trade Suarez and you're saying it's over.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah. You tell the rest of the team.

[Dale Hell]

Yes.

[John Holmberg]

We're not serious anymore.

[Dale Hell]

But what I had said and what I've brought up is the fact that I'm not so sure. A little bit like Devin Booker.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah.

[Dale Hell]

Why not trade Corbin Carroll? No. Martell.

[John Holmberg]

Oh, yeah.

[Dale Hell]

I mean, here's a guy. Listen to what he did. He took the Sunday off before the All Star game. Yeah, I remember. They're fighting for a wild card.

[John Holmberg]

True.

[Dale Hell]

He did it last year. As they're fighting for a wild card. Took a day off. I don't care how beat up you are, you're fighting to get in the playoffs. You play baseball. You play.

[John Holmberg]

I don't.

[Dale Hell]

He took the Sunday off before the All Star game. You're going to play two innings.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Dale Hell]

Come on. And then his house gets broken into. All Star break. And he's so concerned about it.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah. He's got to take a day off.

[Dale Hell]

He goes to his home, the Dominican or something like that. That's how concerned he was. And then he comes back and has to take two days off because of.

[John Holmberg]

Something'S going on with him. And when he started crying on the field, when that fan yelled at him. Something's not right with Cattell Martin.

[Dale Hell]

All I'm saying is that when you're their best player, arguably, and you could make the case that he is. Yep. Their best player. When he's like that.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah.

[Dale Hell]

Then the rest of the team's like that. And I've told you with the Dallas.

[John Holmberg]

Very true.

[Dale Hell]

When Troy, Michael Nemet were our three best players, they're also our three hardest workers. Three of our toughest guys came in and he insisted on being treated different, differently. And it changed the dynamic, entire dynamic of a football locker room, baseball locker rooms.

[John Holmberg]

So you're saying we should trade Catal Marte, get something for that. And maybe Geno Suarez.

[Dale Hell]

You should be able to get a lot.

[John Holmberg]

Oh, you. You'd mop off. Yeah. For those two right now.

[Dale Hell]

You know, and. And so I. It's a tough situation because if you trade Suarez, who's having a hell of a year.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah.

[Dale Hell]

Then you're. You're signaling. Okay, we're the end of the next.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah.

[Dale Hell]

And you're not going to have a couple of these guys back even next year. The pitchers of that Tommy John, they're not going to be bad. Your stud, Corbin Burns, he's not going to be pitching next year.

[John Holmberg]

It's going to have. It's going to be tough. Yeah. Well, that's an interesting take, Dale. Finally. And now people still hate you over the Aussie thing, but at least you said something smart at the end.

[Dale Hell]

I love Aussie.

[John Holmberg]

Oh, here we go.

[Dale Hell]

I love it. Arizona's most powerful, powerful rock radio station.